Will you be buying season tix at Fremont?
The NY Times has an article on ticket prices at the new Yankee/Mets stadiums.
http://www.nytimes.com/2008/08/26/sports/26tickets.html?_r=1&em&oref=slogin
"Tickets for the best seats at the 85-year-old Yankee Stadium, which sold for $1,000 a seat this season, will jump at the new ballpark to $2,500; in other areas of the stadium, they will range from $135 to $500 for season tickets. Prices for single-game tickets, which ranged from $14 to $400 this season, will be released later."
"The best seats at Citi Field, which cost $276 at Shea Stadium this season, will soar to $495, with other season tickets ranging from $125 to $225 a game. Single-game tickets this season ranged from $5 to $117. (Citi Field’s capacity of about 42,500 compares with 57,333 at Shea.)"
So my questions to the A's fans are:
1) Will you be buying season tix, if a new Fremont stadium is built?
2) What is the max that you are willing to spend on a season package?
thought I'd ask since Lew is complaining about the lack of season tix holders....
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No, I will not be
Biggest reasons are up front cost and the fact I don’t like sitting in the same place every time, the same reasons I don’t have season tickets now.
Plus, there’s no way I’d be able to get to all the games and I don’t want to deal with the hassle of splitting up tickets with others, putting them up for sale, etc.
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by Flashfire on Aug 26, 2008 12:25 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
no
There were a lot of stupid, long confusing words that I’m sure normal people don’t use. @('.')@
by monkeyball on Aug 26, 2008 12:32 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
Probably not
I’m one of those un-renewed season ticket holders. I didn’t renew this year simply because a) I don’t know my schedule far enough in advance to be certain I can go, b) it’s so easy to walk up and get tickets for any and every game I want, and c) it’s hard to justify spending hundreds of dollars on tickets when my employer hasn’t given me a COLA increase, much less a raise, in years. The cost of everything else is going up, but my take home isn’t, so some things get cut out.
I still go to a number of games each season, just not as many as I used to….
Oh, and in Fremont? Nah, too far for me to drive, with no realistic BART options yet on the table….I’ll just stay home and watch on tv or listen to the radio.
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by gigglingone on Aug 26, 2008 12:33 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
Same for me
With the increase in ticket price and the lack of public transportation (no way am I driving!), there’s no way it’ll be affordable.
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by anomaly_kat on Aug 26, 2008 4:40 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
ditto that...
…I had the twenty-game pack from 2000 to last year….I got sick of all the Fremont talk. I live in SF and that’s going to be a miserable drive so no more A’s season tix for me.
by Slappyfrog on Aug 26, 2008 9:52 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
season tickets in Fremont
I’ve been buying the 20+ game packages for quite a few years. As I’m over the “senior” citizen age limit, these seats have been very reasonable.
My problem with Fremont isn’t what the price of tickets will be. It’s more the hassle of getting to the location. The current ball park is very easy to get to from the Concord/Walnut Creek area. I fear that the Fremont location will make that ball park across the bay much more accessible for folks from this part of the East Bay. I suppose I can used to seeing pitchers bat, but it certainly isn’t my first choice.
by rcodd on Aug 26, 2008 12:39 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
ouch
the giants over the fremont a’s? ouch.
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by flipgatey3 on Aug 26, 2008 1:21 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
hate to say it, but I've been considering this as well
I’m so against the idea of driving/public transportation to Fremont, that I will probably go to SF when I want to see a ball game.
That means, at least one preseason opener, maybe a couple during inter-league, and then hopefully once more.
I don’t think I could go full-on Halloween colors, but hey, gas is REALLY expensive.
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by popcornjames on Aug 26, 2008 1:26 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
I live in So Cal now
So I couldn’t do season tickets any way. But I’m very excited about a new stadium. The Coliseum holds a lot of good memories for me, but the place has seen better days (like before Al Davis got his grubby little paws on it).
by Tyler Bleszinski on Aug 26, 2008 1:14 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
Al Daviseses terrorizing can't be overstated
I use an old stadium pic as my blog banner background, think people would watch more games at a stadium which looked like this?

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by iamawesomer on Aug 26, 2008 8:26 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Me too...
That was when the “View Level” still had a view!
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by anomaly_kat on Aug 27, 2008 6:37 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
someday
after i get my teaching credential and actual income, i’d love to get at least a big game pack. not to mention buying one of the condos and renting it out.
"If you hit .440 with 20 bombs, you don't have to do s---. You don't have to bring a glove to practice, just hit and leave whenever you want. You can bring a 40 and smoke a cigarette and call me from the parking lot asking me what time the game is, and I'll tell you. You can even say 'F--- you, Steve!' Actually, don't say that, that wouldn't be very nice." -Steve Friend, Head Coach, Chabot College Gladiators Baseball
by flipgatey3 on Aug 26, 2008 1:22 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
Nico and I have some bad news for you...
you still won’t really have an actual income after you get your teaching credential. Trust me. :)
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by notsellingjeans on Aug 26, 2008 3:34 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
well obviously not
trust me, your humor is not lost…my mom’s a teacher too ;)
"If you hit .440 with 20 bombs, you don't have to do s---. You don't have to bring a glove to practice, just hit and leave whenever you want. You can bring a 40 and smoke a cigarette and call me from the parking lot asking me what time the game is, and I'll tell you. You can even say 'F--- you, Steve!' Actually, don't say that, that wouldn't be very nice." -Steve Friend, Head Coach, Chabot College Gladiators Baseball
by flipgatey3 on Aug 26, 2008 4:17 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Amen to that
(fellow teacher here)
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by anomaly_kat on Aug 26, 2008 4:38 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
signing away rights to first child...
I mean, why not? If they’d take him for a full season ticket package. After all, he’s in his “terrible twos” and, besides, I’ve got a replacement on the way, although I haven’t yet determined what his VORC (value over replacement child) is.
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by FoolshGame22 on Aug 26, 2008 1:26 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
Replacement-Level Kids
I like it.
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by notsellingjeans on Aug 26, 2008 3:35 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
When and if the Fremont
plan comes to fruition, I will most likely buy a limited season package. Only because I will have too in order to attend the games I’ll want to see. Yanks, RS, type things. As it currently stands, it’s not a problem to buy individual tickets. I’m assuming those days are nearing an end.
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by alox on Aug 26, 2008 1:46 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
Already saving my money . . . . . . . .
Both my sister and I opened “ING” Orange savings account last year for just this reason. A pre-determined amount gets taken from my checking account on each payday (I can go online anytime and change the amount depending on my current financial situation). I’m not even sure how much I have in the account right now, but I’m hoping that it’s enough to buy a full season package when the time comes. I am disappointed that the new park will not have the bullpens on the field. I know this has been mandated by MLB, but I think it sucks. The tickets we have now are in the first row by the visitors bullpen. The interaction with the opposing players is usually the best part of my baseball experience on any given gameday.
by Midori1967 on Aug 26, 2008 2:52 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
No ...
1. I’m not going to spend that much.
2. My schedule is not sufficiently reliable.
3. I live in Sacramento.
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by devo on Aug 26, 2008 2:55 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
No
didn’t buy them in Oakland and not gonna buy them in Fremont.
Suck on that, Lew!
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by black beane on Aug 26, 2008 3:09 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
I wonder if the Rivercats would mind...
if the A’s moved up to Sacto? Hmmm…….
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by ST on Aug 26, 2008 3:43 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
When Fremont freezes over.
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by andeux on Aug 26, 2008 3:48 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
Fremont definitely could use some cooler weather
I refuse to travel south of the dumbarton bridge. heh, dumbarton.
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by mikeA on Aug 26, 2008 9:21 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
how have we collectively not come up with that nickname for him before?
There were a lot of stupid, long confusing words that I’m sure normal people don’t use. @('.')@
by monkeyball on Aug 27, 2008 9:14 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
no
There were a lot of stupid, long confusing words that I’m sure normal people don’t use. @('.')@
by monkeyball on Aug 26, 2008 4:47 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
hard to judge from your comments
but are you a true fremont hater? i wouldnt mind hearing your full opinion on the matter.
from over here in Boston: i can see that Fremont is not ideal, but I believe it is an important step up from oakland, and i dont see any better alternatives.
by oakinboston on Aug 26, 2008 8:12 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
I don't hate Fremont at all
but as I live here I’m all too familiar with the commute situation. I live in Oakland and always take BART to the games.
Several A’s executives have been quoted as counting on getting most of the attendance at the planned Fremont ballpark from south and east — and have also been quoted as expecting to lose their fans from quite a bit of the rest of the Bay Area.
by OaklandSi on Aug 26, 2008 8:19 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
my "no" in this case is hyperbolic
I have serious doubts that the Fremont plan will come to fruition; and even if it does, that it’ll be scaled back significantly.
On an analytic level, Fremont sorta-kinda made/makes sense to me, though I think Lew prioritized potential profit-maximizing (i.e., lowering costs by aiming at cheap and available land) over a lot of actual biz dev considerations (in contradistinction to the way Beane runs the team, Lew analogously went for a Marlins-style tear-down-and-spend-profligately/high-risk/high-reward plan).
On a personal level, I live in SF and don’t own a car and am a cheap bastard, so if Fremont happens, I will probably attend about one to three more A’s games total in my lifetime (and will end up attending a LOT more Giants games). (I’m also a realist: I know that any new stadium will feature outlandish prices, which I’d be willing to accommodate for convenience/public-transit-ideological reasons.)
There were a lot of stupid, long confusing words that I’m sure normal people don’t use. @('.')@
by monkeyball on Aug 27, 2008 9:24 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
you live in SF
but you’re a cheap bastard? damn, what’s the rent like?
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by flipgatey3 on Aug 27, 2008 12:56 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
painful
There were a lot of stupid, long confusing words that I’m sure normal people don’t use. @('.')@
by monkeyball on Aug 27, 2008 1:45 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
no
the public transit access does not look reasonable for at least the near future, and I’m not going to deal with 880 down to Fremont, at least not for enough games to justify buying season tickets.
by OaklandSi on Aug 26, 2008 5:07 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
Last time I checked, BART goes down to Fremont.
A lot of us South Bay people use the BART to get to the Coli.
I’m pretty sure there will be a shuttle from the Fremont BART station to Cisco Field during gamedays.
Some fans may be lost in the move, but I know a lot of my San Jose brethren cannot wait (“if” and “when” of course).
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by oaklandSMASH on Aug 27, 2008 12:46 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
the Fremont BART station
is five miles away from the site of the planned ballpark.
by OaklandSi on Aug 27, 2008 8:07 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Warm Spring BART
is 1.25 miles away. They are expected start building the WSX extension next year regardless of the tax vote outcome in Santa Clara County. Service could begin by 2014.
by vertig0 on Aug 27, 2008 10:52 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
WArm springs BART
does not exist. Even if they do manage to build it it will still be too far away for many people.
by OaklandSi on Aug 27, 2008 11:13 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
"Service could begin by 2014"
That could still come in ahead of Seig Acres.
There were a lot of stupid, long confusing words that I’m sure normal people don’t use. @('.')@
by monkeyball on Aug 27, 2008 11:41 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Seriously
Are you getting into an issue over semantics? I mentioned the state of the extension.
The shuttle from the planned station should take 10 minutes each way. If it’s akin to anything, it would be the BART bridge buses run during fireworks games. Not as convenient, but viable.
by vertig0 on Aug 27, 2008 4:34 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
And less walking, too
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by Flashfire on Aug 27, 2008 6:06 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
they would have to run a whole lot of shuttles
I think that’s a big problem. I don’t think people are going to want to walk/drive to BART, wait for a train, take it all the way down to Fremont/Warm Springs, then wait for a shuttle, then drive to the game, and then do the whole thing in reverse on the way home. People don’t even like taking BART to the Oakland Airport b/c of this. It just sounds like a hassle. And it is in my opinion.
by jdr on Aug 27, 2008 7:10 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
I mean say you have 10,000 people coming to a game via BART
you have any idea how many shuttles and how long it would take to load 10,000 people onto them in order to drive them over to BART? At 10:30pm every night for the equivalent of 3 months out of the year, then mothball them for the rest of the time? It sounds like a nightmare to me. It already takes them forever to shuttle out the 1,000 fans who skip the fireworks.
by jdr on Aug 27, 2008 7:15 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
That's a bit high
They usually have 15-20% of fans coming via BART, which translates to 10K at best for a really large crowd. For Cisco Field that would be nearly a third.
Given the transfer and longer transit times associated with it I couldn’t see more than 10% of fans take the BART+shuttle combo. So that’s 3,500. Each bus holds 80 people including standees, so that translates to 44 shuttle trips.
Fans do this already when taking transferring from BART to Muni to AT&T Park. Last time I took it the N-Judah took 25 minutes to get to the Embarcadero thanks to a backup at the station. That hasn’t really stopped anyone from taking it.
by vertig0 on Aug 28, 2008 12:01 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Bart to Muni isn't the same thing
You take Bart to Embarcadero then walk to a different platform. It’s all within the same station. You may have to wait but there isn’t the psychological burden of taking three different forms of transportation to get to the game. That weighs on people.
by jdr on Aug 28, 2008 11:46 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Explain further
Just about everywhere you’ll have to take three modes unless you live within walking distance of a BART station.
As for walking to a different platform, that doesn’t make much sense. Leaving BART in SF you take an escalator, exit a fare gate, pay the fare, enter another fare gate, take another escalator. In Warm Springs you’ll take an escalator, exit a fare gate, walk 100 feet to bus platform. Is it really that much of a psychological burden?
by vertig0 on Aug 28, 2008 2:16 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
I suspect you will never be convinced of this but-
getting into and waiting for multiple distinct traveling machines is a psychological deterrent. Waiting for them is an even bigger deterrent. Getting to the Bart station (however you do), waiting for a train, taking a long train ride (Fremont is far away for everyone on the Bart route except for Fremonters), then waiting for a shuttle, then riding the shuttle, then doing the whole thing on the way back is a long trip. The problem is the waiting – people hate to stand in line doing nothing. People hate waiting in general.
In addition to being flat out longer for the vast majority of people who would be Barting to the game, Fremont adds another waiting period. I don’t know if you’ve ever skipped the fireworks and taken the shuttle back to Bart but it takes them forever to load them up – it’s not like getting onto a train where everybody walks on in 15 seconds. It takes a long time because there are 5 or 6 buses that make back and forth trips (there won’t be 44 shuttles for the 44 shuttle trips you outline above, there will be 10 or so) and they take a while to load because it’s not like a train where everybody boards at once and it takes 15 seconds, you can only fit one person through the door at a time. It ain’t quick. To say nothing of the fact that Warm Springs is still a planned Bart station and we know Bart’s shining record on getting new routes done on time. It took them 20+ years to get a train down to SFO and that was the biggest no-brainer high-priority train Bart can imagine.
There are lots of good reasons to support a Fremont stadium – increased revenues, it might open up the South Bay, personal reasons such as proximity, etc. There are also some reasons to not – one of those is that public transportation is not going to be a strength. In fact this is the first time I’ve seen someone argue that it won’t be that big of a deal. Candlestick Park had/has the same issue – even once you get the station all the way down at the bottom of the route, you then have to wait for the shuttle. It’s a drag. People hate it. They avoid it whenever possible.
by jdr on Aug 28, 2008 5:47 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Don't put words in my mouth
Never have I ever said transit won’t be a big deal. The Fremont situation is obviously not ideal especially compared to the Coliseum. And I don’t expect 15-20% of fans to take transit as they currently do. I expect around 5-10%. The issue then is to accommodate those that choose to do so.
Shuttles are difficult to accomplish at the Coliseum. There’s no defined bus stop. The shuttles only run during fireworks games, so there’s no routine involved, little familiarity with the process. They use school buses at times. The route is a bit circuitous. I’ve taken it frequently because I don’t care much for fireworks. It won’t be difficult in Fremont to design a transit center and routing that would allow shuttle service to run efficiently. Why would a fan have to wait more than a few minutes to take the shuttle? They’ll be queued to run probably a couple hours before the game then continuously until two hours after the game, with peak service set for when the game ends. VTA and the Sharks ran the Sharks shuttle successfully for years until they decided they didn’t need it anymore. The A’s won’t have that luxury. They’ll be buying the buses and giving them to the city or other public groups during non-game situations.
The ‘Stick has the antithesis of good planning with its site. Why would the A’s repeat those mistakes in Fremont? They’re trying to get the plan passed, not rejected.
by vertig0 on Aug 28, 2008 6:08 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
They do this at a ton of stadiums
The United Center in Chicago is one off the top of my head.
by ohmangoAs on Aug 28, 2008 12:33 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Have you seen the butts at the hot dog lines?
a brisk walk will do them well.
by sf drift king on Aug 28, 2008 6:32 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
QOTM
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by oaklandSMASH on Aug 28, 2008 10:12 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Is it really the same?
Would you take BART from Fremont to games in Oakland if you had to transfer at the Coliseum BART station and go for a 5 (or 1.25) mile bus ride to reach the ballpark?
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by Monday Fan on Aug 28, 2008 12:33 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Yes
I would because I want to watch the A’s. Just because there is one more degree of separation from the game you want to watch, doesn’t mean it should totally prevent you fro watching the game.
I’m sure some Oakland fans who suddenly feel that this is not a just a minor inconvenience (which it is) will stop going to games, but for the few out there who will not commute from the east bay, there are many like me from the South Bay who will still make our way to the games despite having no viable public transportation link from San Jose to Fremont.
And if the A’s decide to move to, I don’t know, Hercules, then I would pay the extra fare, wait the extra hours, and cheer my ass off there because I am an A’s fan.
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by oaklandSMASH on Aug 28, 2008 10:24 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
I used to live in Hercules and during those eight years, I had to quit going to the games on weeknights. It took too long to get home. I can’t get by on four-to-five hours of sleep.
I can see oaklandSMASH would not let an extra 1.25 or 5 mile bus ride each way keep him from taking BART to games in Oakland. (I didn’t ask if it would keep one from going to games — just if it would keep one from taking BART.) Do other South Bay folks who take BART to the Coliseum feel this way? Would you drive instead of taking BART under these conditions?
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by Monday Fan on Aug 29, 2008 12:34 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Taking the BART from Fremont to the games is just a fact of life for us.
Driving to Fremont is a minor inconvenience in the way of getting to the game. Of course, if there was a BART station in San Jose, I would leave my car in the South Bay altogether.
Of course, a lot of us South Bay fans are excited of even the prospect of bringing the team closer to us. I suspect this is inversely propotional to East Bay residents who feel like they will be losing their team.
If it happens, I think it is a great compromise. The BART ride from Oakland to Fremont isn’t so bad, and I’m sure the city of Fremont would provide more than adequate links from the station to the ballpark. For us in the South Bay, this connects us to the rest of the Bay Area. Along with making the A’s more accessible to potential fans of the South Bay, Cisco Field, along with the proposed 49ers stadium in Santa Clara, would further heighten the profile of the South Bay which would perhaps accelerate the chances that BART and other public transportation systems to the South Bay.
I’ll be happy to see the team in Fremont. If Fremont is not the A’s ultimate destination, then I hope they stay in NorCal.
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by oaklandSMASH on Aug 30, 2008 2:54 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
I only expect to attend a game a month when the A's move to Fremont.
I will really miss seeing the games live…but the commute from Contra Costa is going to be too much for me. I hate driving in stressful situations and the public transportation to the games sounds like it’s going to suck bigtime. I am glad that the team will be staying in Norcal , though. I will go to all of the interleague games in SF between the A’s and Giants.
by IM4Oakgal on Aug 26, 2008 8:49 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
No.
I went in on them in Sacramento for a couple years, but I won’t anymore, and I especially don’t plan to spend more money to drive further (emphasis on drive).
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by jeepers on Aug 26, 2008 8:54 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
You'll be missing a chance at a fun project:
“How many means of transportation would it take to get to the Fremont park from Sacramento without a car?” If you look like Steve Martin, you could even bring along a jovial fat man and make a hit comedy.
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by mikeA on Aug 26, 2008 9:23 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
if only I were more jovial
There were a lot of stupid, long confusing words that I’m sure normal people don’t use. @('.')@
by monkeyball on Aug 27, 2008 9:25 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
The answer is 2
1 is the Capitol Corridor train to head to the newly constructed train station (already budgeted).
2 is a 10-minute tram from the station to the ballpark.
by vertig0 on Aug 27, 2008 10:47 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Hell Yea!
Season tickets! Only if the A’s can start winning again and actually spend money like our rivals the Angels!
I have tickets to Warriors & Raiders already, and I used to have the 20 game pack for the A’s, but ended this year because I knew they would screw up.
C’mon A’s, how do you expect to win fans over without forking over a little $$$. Use some money, to gain a lot more money!
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by ballin on Aug 26, 2008 10:03 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
They're not spending money?
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by Flashfire on Aug 26, 2008 10:16 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
I doubt it
I don’t think the Fremont experience will be fun like the bleachers are now. I’ll go to a couple of games and see how it goes, of course.
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by Englishmajor on Aug 26, 2008 10:49 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
We'll have to have an AN Testing Day at the new ballpark
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by gigglingone on Aug 27, 2008 11:55 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
No, I already barely go to games
Right now, I’m an hour away from the Coliseum. I usually drive to Fremont bart with some friends and take that to McAfee. Now that its closer, I’ll be going more often, especially since I have some friends in Fremont who regularly go to games.
However, I’m just a college kid, the biggest thing stopping me from going to games is the cost. Not only the cost of a ticket, which I’ll end up paying about 20 bucks for, but its the transportation. With gas and bart, it easily adds up to 10 more bucks at least. I go to a few games each summer, definitely not as many as most of you guys go to. I do however go to the season openers, however much they cost me.
In the future however, I can see myself going to a lot of games. My dream is to one day be retired and have season tickets, then go to every game.
by Maddendude on Aug 27, 2008 1:59 AM PDT reply actions 0 recs
Transportation to New Stadium
For those of you interested, it will be about 6 miles from the Fremont BART to the new stadium. Definately not walking distance. I’m sure there will be busses going from there though. That will be a pain in the ass. But Fremont is a relatively safe city, even at night. Fremont Amtrak to the new stadium is about 7 miles away. But Amtrak is too expensive to take regularly.
But for my 2 cents on the stadium, since capacity isn’t an issue, I think they should try to make it really nice. From what I hear it might look like this:

I dunno, thats not really unique, I want something that makes other clubs jealous, like what they have in SF. Have some cool structures, cut up the grass in a nice checkered shape, I would go to a lot of games…
by Maddendude on Aug 27, 2008 2:28 AM PDT reply actions 0 recs
No, because I don't live in California
But i do have a question or two because I see a bunch about the Fremonet move and I honestly can’t figure out what it’s such a big deal. How far away is the proposed location from the current one? I see all this talk about how it’s unacceptable to move to Fremont as if they’re moving cross-country. Is it really out of the way now?
by thejd44 on Aug 27, 2008 11:06 AM PDT reply actions 0 recs
If memory serves
I have heard it’s about 11 miles away. But the issues that are brought up are
-it is 11 miles on a very busy freeway-880 (although it also would now have closer access to another the 680).
-BART, which currently has a staion right at the coliseum, is currently 5-6 miles away and in the future will still be over a mile away. And other public transportation is also some distance away. The thought is that shuttles and trams would possibly make up the difference, but obviously, each different type of transportation makes it a little more difficult.
BTW-I guess my vote would be no on the season tiks as well, but that is also because I am too far away to hit more than a few games a year.
"Camelot sure fell apart, didn't it?"-Steve McCatty
by 5Aces on Aug 27, 2008 11:27 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
It's around 20 miles
(a little more, I think). But the rest of this is accurate.
I estimate that it will add about 40+ minutes of travel time for anyone coming from North of the Coliseum or from San Francisco. From where I am (Berkeley) the Coliseum is about 20 minutes by car or 25 minutes by BART each way. With the team in Fremont, it will be over an hour. While that’s obviously not so long that it makes going to games impossible, it certainly makes it a lot less attractive, especially when you combine it with the fact that prices will be going up as well.
"May a nit suck Cajun geese?" wonders Red. No, we see gnu Jack Cust in a yam.
by andeux on Aug 27, 2008 12:11 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
I'm 20 miles away from the Coliseum now.
After the move, it becomes about 35-40 miles. All on the freeway. The 20 miles currently takes me anywhere from 15 minutes to an hour and a half, depending on traffic.
There's no crying in baseball!
by gigglingone on Aug 27, 2008 11:58 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Ok, to solve this problem here is my solution
Every A’s fan should be required to live in Chicago for a year, then go back and see if any of the previous posts seem all that bad.
by thejd44 on Aug 27, 2008 12:53 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
no kidding
"If you hit .440 with 20 bombs, you don't have to do s---. You don't have to bring a glove to practice, just hit and leave whenever you want. You can bring a 40 and smoke a cigarette and call me from the parking lot asking me what time the game is, and I'll tell you. You can even say 'F--- you, Steve!' Actually, don't say that, that wouldn't be very nice." -Steve Friend, Head Coach, Chabot College Gladiators Baseball
by flipgatey3 on Aug 27, 2008 12:59 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Here's another solution
People who are not affected in any way by the move can stop telling those of us who are how we should feel about it.
"May a nit suck Cajun geese?" wonders Red. No, we see gnu Jack Cust in a yam.
by andeux on Aug 27, 2008 1:21 PM PDT up reply actions 2 recs
QOTM
There were a lot of stupid, long confusing words that I’m sure normal people don’t use. @('.')@
by monkeyball on Aug 27, 2008 1:46 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
What about South Bay fans?
We already drive 45 minutes if not more to go either Giants or A’s games.
by vertig0 on Aug 27, 2008 4:36 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
you are effected
The A's colors are green and gold.
by mikeA on Aug 27, 2008 5:56 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Agreed entirely
There's no crying in baseball!
by gigglingone on Aug 27, 2008 4:37 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
I've tried 2 or 3 ways to respond to this
but every time a reread it it comes across like I am ready to pick a fight, which is far from it. So, let me give it a shot and let the chips fall where they may.
I do not worry one bit about how anyone should feel about this move. And I think that applies to most people in favor of the move. Honestly most of the opinions I have read from those in support of Fremont have been along the lines that if something in Oakland would work it’s fine with them.
But to say that just because someone doesn’t currently go to a lot of games, buy season tickets, or live in Oakland is “not affected in any way” is just silly. Every person who is a fan of this team is impacted to some degree by this move, and to say they are not is just as bad as someone who says “it’s only another 20 miles, deal with it.”
"Camelot sure fell apart, didn't it?"-Steve McCatty
by 5Aces on Aug 27, 2008 6:16 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
I'm not trying to pick a fight either
(well, maybe a little bit…) and my post wasn’t directed at you, or vertig0. And for that matter, even the post to which I was responding wasn’t the worst offender. But I’ve gotten really sick of the “it’s only 20 miles, what’s the big deal” or “you should be grateful to have a team in your area at all” posts, and those have invariable come from people who don’t live in the area and thus don’t go to A’s games on a regular basis themselves.
The fact is (as you seem to recognize), for the vast majority of fans, the time and effort involved in getting to the stadium, as well as the cost do make a difference in how many games we attend. And no one should be branded as disloyal for admitting it. I love going to baseball games, but I’m not independently wealthy, and I consider my time to be worth something as well.
I’ll concede your point that the move to a new stadium could lead to an increased payroll and a better team, and thus benefit all A’s fans to some extent. For the non-residents (or for South Bay fans) there’s no downside, and I don’t blame them for wanting the Fremont plan to happen. But for others of us it will be a decidedly mixed blessing, and some people just refuse to understand that.
"May a nit suck Cajun geese?" wonders Red. No, we see gnu Jack Cust in a yam.
by andeux on Aug 27, 2008 7:14 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
I simply answered the question about the distance
As you’ll note in my post above, the primary reasons that I didn’t buy season tickets are the lack of money these days, and the ease of walking up to buy tickets. If there was difficultly buying tickets at the gate, I’d think about season tickets again, but as it is now, it doesn’t matter, because I’ve never NOT been able to get a ticket to the games, and the season ticket discount (about $2 per game) isn’t enough to make a difference to me. Make it worthwhile to be a season ticket holder, and maybe I’ll rethink it. But $2 per game isn’t going to make a difference.
There's no crying in baseball!
by gigglingone on Aug 27, 2008 4:46 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
If getting season tickets was what it took to be able to go to more games...
…then it’s something I’d probably have to consider doing and splitting them with someone else. But I usually only go to games by myself.
Of course, with my preference to sit in different places, the possibility of upgrading on a game-by-game basis – technology they say would be in the new ballpark – would be enticing.
Last of the Ninth - Photography Site / jamesvenes.com - Blog
by Flashfire on Aug 27, 2008 6:08 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
I work in downtown Oakland.
There is nothing like jumping on the BART @6pm and being at the game by 6:30pm. I’m truly spoiled. What can I say? Will I go to games in Fremont? Probably, but it will be tough to beat what I’ve got now.
Season Tix – maybe when I retire in 2-4 years, wait, that’s about the time they’ll be finishing it.
by little A on Aug 27, 2008 12:53 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
this is something I think about a lot
Many issues will impact my decision. I know my situation is exceptional, since I’m one of the two or three thousand, probably, season ticket holders who live in Oakland. I live ten minutes from the Coliseum, so it’s going to be a lot harder to get to a ballpark in any other city. It would be nice to hear that there is going to be some kind of workable public transportation access to the ballpark, but even that will be less attractive to me than the kind of access I enjoy now.
When I tell friends who live in New York or Boston what I pay for forty games they simply can’t believe it. I could pay scalpers less, but why should I bother? For years my season tickets have been an incredible bargain when compared to other MLB prices; it’s almost a pleasure to fork over the three or four hundred bucks every December.
As a longtime season ticket holder, I appreciate the way the season ticket office is run now (with the major exception of having been tarped out of my original seat). The ticket exchange policy is so cool… I get the forty weekday games package but trade in enough of these to see at least one game in every home series. Plus I can trade in tix to games I missed for tickets to different games. I fear that these policies and the reasonable prices may not survive the move.
I answered $600-$800 in the poll, but I’m not sure about that figure; I may be willing to spend more (I enjoyed doing so in our Playoffs years). I will have to see how happy I am with the way the move goes, and what kind of loyalty the A’s will show their longtime supporters. I still love the Coliseum, though, and feel a bit jilted by both the A’s and the city of Oakland. It will be very hard for me to say goodbye to the Coliseum (did I mention I still love it?).
by Brian in 317 on Aug 27, 2008 5:05 PM PDT reply actions 2 recs
HEY AN... how do we "recommend"?
Since the format change I haven’t recommended any diaries, and now that I want to recommend one, I can’t find a button anywhere.
Please let me know if you know.
by Brian in 317 on Aug 27, 2008 5:18 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Can you tell me a little more about the ticket exchange program?
Also, as it is now, if you want to sit in different places is that a hassle or something pretty simple to do?
Last of the Ninth - Photography Site / jamesvenes.com - Blog
by Flashfire on Aug 27, 2008 6:09 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
ticket exchanges
These are easy for me to do because I live so close to the Coliseum, but basically:
If you turn in a ticket to the Season Ticket Holder Box Office more than 48 hours in advance of a game, you can trade it in for a comparable ticket for any other game (exceptions are Yankees, RedSox, Giants, and fireworks games, which are “blacked out” for exchanges). You can also use the face value of such a ticket as credit in order to upgrade your seat for the game you decide to go to.
As I mentioned above, I like to spread my SAC FLY forty games around so I can see at least one game in every home series.
by Brian in 317 on Aug 28, 2008 2:14 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
That would make a season ticket plan more enticing.
In theory, I could probably get something like a 20-game plan in the plaza level and use a number of them as credit toward the occasional MVP level seat and still pick and choose spots to sit. That would work for me.
Last of the Ninth - Photography Site / jamesvenes.com - Blog
by Flashfire on Aug 28, 2008 6:40 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
At the very bottom of the diary
Two lines below the poll is a row of four clickable links, which read Email, Print, Flag, and Rec. You want that last one.
Arte didn't get much Home Run Derby. He was dug in too deep or moving too fast. His idea of great R&R was cold rice and a little rat meat.
by FreeSeatUpgrade on Aug 27, 2008 5:31 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
Next, I'll teach you how to use the reply function
Arte didn't get much Home Run Derby. He was dug in too deep or moving too fast. His idea of great R&R was cold rice and a little rat meat.
by FreeSeatUpgrade on Aug 27, 2008 5:31 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
those who can't do, teach
There were a lot of stupid, long confusing words that I’m sure normal people don’t use. @('.')@
by monkeyball on Aug 27, 2008 5:34 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
I still don't think they're moving, but no.
I live in Castro Valley and work in Richmond. On a work day, the Coliseum is on my way home. From home, I’m three stations away from the Coliseum. It’s hard to beat either way.
If the A’s move to Fremont, I couldn’t take BART straight from work to the game. I’d have a 55 minute BART ride to Castro Valley, then a drive to Fremont that would be another 30 minutes in good traffic, closer to an hour in typically bad traffic. No way I’m doing that. I might go to a few weekend games. I’d likely watch them on TV most of the time.
I suppose I’m thinking too much in the present. If they ever get a ballpark built in Fremont, it would likely be well after I have retired. I might be inclined to attend some weeknight games if I don’t have to make the trip from Richmond and don’t have to get up for work the next morning (5:00 AM). Season tickets? Maybe one of the mini-plans if those will still be available. If they don’t have seats in centerfield, I won’t go at all.
Root for the Giants? Not even if they're playing al-Qaeda!
by Monday Fan on Aug 28, 2008 1:00 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
Yes
My disposable income will go into a season ticket package of some kind at the new stadium.
by sf drift king on Aug 28, 2008 6:39 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
So much negativity.......
I’ve been a season ticket holder going on 21 years. I have 4 tickets to every game except midweek day games. Since I only go to 20-30 games a year, I usually sell the rest to friends and family. This year with stubhub it was a little different. I was able to sell the tickets I didn’t want and have ended up making more money then what my total bill was for last season’s tickets. If people are worried about not being able to sell tickets you’re not using – stubhub is great!! and the A’s “My Tickets” program makes it so easy. I have sold every game I have listed….even against teams like KC, Blue Jays, I have NEVER lost money and have sometimes doubled what the tickets cost me. TRY IT!
“We’re not looking to have a huge increase in ticket price, we’re looking for a huge increase in attendance” Lewis Wolff (Part II of Blez’s interview)
by baseballfan13 on Aug 29, 2008 11:37 AM PDT reply actions 0 recs

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