Wrap: Game 123 - White Sox 13 , A's 1
by Taj Adib on Aug 17, 2008 3:51 PM PDT
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PrintIt's safe to say that at this point Gio Gonzalez has quite a bit of work to do to become an above-average major league pitcher. Today, Gio's first 30-something-odd pitches were all 89-91mph fastballs on the outside part of the plate, many of them missing. He walked three guys in 1 2/3 innings before starting to really mix in some other pitches and even attempt to pitch inside. After his first "experiment" with an inside pitch resulted in a wild pitch and run scored, Juan Uribe took Gio's first (of many) really obvious mistake pitches (a hanging curveball) and drilled it for a three-run homer into the left-field bleachers. The flood gates opened up for poor Gio after that, as he gave up back-to-back homers in the 3rd inning to make it 3 on the day against him. All told, his final line was just atrocious: 3.1 IP, 8 runs allowed, 6 hits, 5 walks and 2 strikeouts. As if the A's offense could even attempt to make a comeback against that type of hole...
If I were the A's and Gio, I would take baby steps from here on out. He shouldn't try to fix everything at once (since there are certainly just too many things he needs to work on). He should take a few starts to really concentrate on using both sides of the plate with his fastball. Once he improves that aspect of his game, then maybe he can concentrate on throwing all his pitches for strikes in different counts. Then finally, as Nico suggested, he should start attempting to add and subtract some velocity from his fastball, because MLB hitters just get WAY too comfortable seeing the same 89mph fastball over and over again. Sure, that's a lot to work on, but what else has he got to lose for the rest of this season?
White Sox pitchers (mostly Javier Vasquez) followed the incredibly simple "Guide to Beating the A's" by pounding the strike zone and refusing to issue walks. A's hitters played into the scouting report by striking out 10 times and mustering only 4 hits on the day. Two of those hits, remarkably, came off the bat of Daric Barton who also collected the A's only RBI of the afternoon, driving in Cliff Pennington (who had collected his first MLB hit earlier in the 8th inning with a bloop single to right field that turned into a double on a misplay). So congrats to Cliff and perhaps Barton will start to turn things around after his nice afternoon...
Other highlights of the whalloping from the A's perspective were two fine, back-to-back defensive plays from Cargon and Crosby. Carlos robbed Junior Griffey of extra-bases with a running grab against the wall in right-center while Crosby barehanded a slow roller and threw-out speedy Alexei Ramirez by a half step one batter later. (It really makes Gio's outing look even worse when you realize that his defense actually played pretty well behind him).
And now the A's are off on another road trip. This particular one will be a 3-city swing through Minnesota, Seattle and Anaheim. With the data at-hand, what would be an optimistic projection for the 10-game trip? 2-8? 3-7? I'm just hoping for the baby steps. A few less walks next time out for Gio, a few more hits for Barton, a few less innings of Hannahan and two dozen less strikeouts for everyone else.
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Haren, Harden, Blanton, and Swisher
all play for teams with at least a share of first place.
Gallagher, Gio, Smith and Emil Brown do not. :-(
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It was like watching Jack Cust hit,
except without the strikeouts and with “CHI” on his jersey.
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All those HRs made me sad, like an underprivileged child:
“I want one of those!”
“You can have one when you’re older.”
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BETTER THAN A 1 RUN LOSS
I was able to turn off the TV after the third and not watch another lack luster effort by the A’s. I see a tired overplayed team out there. Geren needs to rest more of his players. Give Crosby tomorrow off and Thomas. He needs to better nmanage his lineup and roster.
Clearly it's all Garen's fault!!!!111
A one-run loss might have been interesting. As it is, I just want 2.5 hours of my life back. And my pants.
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What happened to your pants?
every winning streak ends with taking your underpants off. @('.')@
by Leopold Bloom on Aug 17, 2008 5:15 PM PDT up reply actions
You don't know either?
Great.
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Is it possible that Gio left them floating over the outer half of the plate?
every winning streak ends with taking your underpants off. @('.')@
by Leopold Bloom on Aug 17, 2008 6:05 PM PDT up reply actions
if he did
then they’re in the left field bleachers now.
by Brian in 317 on Aug 17, 2008 6:11 PM PDT up reply actions 1 recs
I hear goats'll eat just about anything
"There's never enough time to do all the nothing you want" -Bill Watterson
You'd think. :-(
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my 1 complaint with Geren
He basicly does a good job with rotation and bullpen but he needs to rest his players more. You can tell when a hitter is tired and their swings slow down. Its good he gave Ellis a rest today but he needs to rest his players more than just once a week if there is no off day. You cant expect players not to tire this time of the year. I do beklieve that is one reason they are struggling right now.
I agree with Suzuki - a little less would be a lot more
If I had Geren’s bench, however, I’d be reluctant to go too deep into it too often…Or I’d figure my starters suck so really what’s the difference?
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Growing pains
I’m sorry to see Gio struggle at all— especially because the yutz may have ruined me in both of my fantasy leagues this week— but one must assume that he’ll take time to adjust to the majors. Hopefully, since the season is hosed anyway, the A’s will let him continue to take his turns in the rotation and not add to his troubles by wracking him with the anxiety that every time he has a poor outing he’s due for a demotion.
On an unrelated notes, I was musing on just who would be a candidate for a September call-up for a team that is mostly comprised of AAA players anyway…
Ryan Sweeney: I probably irrationally embraced him before you did.
Re Gio, it's been a while since the A's had
so much young pitching that games were walkathons and so on. Gallagher, Gio, Smith, and Eveland are going to drive us crazy in a way we’re not used to, but it’s part of putting 22 year olds and first-year pitchers out there – they will be highly inconsistent, and will do their learning “on the job, in real time.”
I wonder how many fans recall that even in his brilliant rookie season, Tim Hudson made back-to-back starts that were just terrible (in Boston and Cleveland, I believe). He had been racking up Ks with his splitter and then one start, he was out after about 2 IP because they were looking for, and laying off, the splitter. Huddy didn’t make the adjustment and lasted about 2 IP his next start – same problem. Then he decided to start throwing some fastballs in “splitter” counts, and he got back to the business of dominating the league.
Damn keeds!
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Oh, and re Sept callups, I think
we’ve already seen most of the strong candidates (Patterson, Pennington, Petit, Gio, Meyer, DiNardo), so for new folks I would expect to see Aaron Cunningham, and maybe Kirk Saarloos, and that’s about it.
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Sept call ups
I see another catcher too and more relief. Look for petit to be added. Dont forget Buck and bankston since they are on the 40 man.
not sure how many call ups there will be immediately
I think the River Cats may be playoff-bound. If that’s the case, they’ll wait until later before sending players up to Oakland.
There's no crying in baseball!
don't forget Murton
I’m still baffled he’s in AAA
"There's never enough time to do all the nothing you want" -Bill Watterson
Yup
It’s not just that the A’s have young pitchers, it’s that they have a metric shit ton of young pitchers— as you pointed out above (paraphrasing you, of course). There are going to be a lot of head scratchers and hair pullers for the rest of the way out.
It really never fails— the kids come up and they seem not to “trust their stuff,” and start giving out walks like they were glow sticks at a rave. And I really strain to remember a kid who bucks that trend. You’d figure some rookies would look around and say, “hell, nibbling doesn’t seem to work, maybe I should just throw my fastball in a 1-2 count like I normally would.”
Ryan Sweeney: I probably irrationally embraced him before you did.
Interestingly, the one exception might be Braden -
which is why the A’s like him – his “makeup” (not in a Cindi sense) is that of a warrior, though he doesn’t have the stuff of a Tim Hudson or John Lackey. In that regard, he’s more like a Rod Beck or Eddie Guardado, late 30s editions.
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Well, that may be true
But I’d put him in a category of young pitchers who figured it out quickly, rather than one who came out to his first start with brass balls and a mean streak. After all, we all remember last year, even though we probably wish we didn’t.
Ryan Sweeney: I probably irrationally embraced him before you did.
He doesn't have the stuff
However, he’s still willing to come after hitters with what he’s got – just ask Magglio Ordoñez.
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He didn't figure it out quickly
He came up last year, and then earlier this year. Braden figured it out when he was essentially on the ropes. If he hadn’t figured it out, he’d either wind up a permanent middle reliever or AAA roadkill like Kirk Saarloos.
Guys with mediocre stuff like Braden aren’t given all the time in the world to “figure it out.”
I'll agree he was on the ropes...
… though by virtue of the fact that the A’s greatly improved their pitching depth via trades rather than because he really played himself out of contention for a roster spot. I suggest that he did figure things out relatively quickly, given his limited MLB experience. This, of course, is assuming that the progress he has made recently with his control is for real and not just a matter of small sample size.
Ryan Sweeney: I probably irrationally embraced him before you did.
Agree w/the things Gio needs to work on...
But maybe he should have been working on them for the entire season in AAA. You could just see his confidence getting destroyed out there today.
Gerrymander
Obsequious.
Pantaloons.
Etc.
Ryan Sweeney: I probably irrationally embraced him before you did.
I vote for pantaloons.
though obsequious does hold its obvious charm.
every winning streak ends with taking your underpants off. @('.')@
by Leopold Bloom on Aug 17, 2008 6:06 PM PDT up reply actions
As always, Mr. Bloom, your input is appreciated
Also, lepidopterist.
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mneumonic
device, but I need one to forget, not remember…
"I never predict anything, and I never will." Paul Gascoigne, English footballer
by One won lost won on Aug 17, 2008 6:57 PM PDT up reply actions
So Schnapps is a mneumonic device?
Hey wait, it is:
Such
Crappy
Hitting
Never
As
Productive as a
Piece of
S…
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Wow Gio really couldn't locate
I hardly watch games anymore (combo of being out of the bay + not much to see) so I didn’t see today’s game but damn does the data really show that Gio didn’t have it today.
(The strikezone height is just the mean of the top and bottom of the White Sox players sz_top and sz_bot pitchf/x data)
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I see a deranged rabbit, on fire, cowering away from a vagina
I await the results of the Rorschaschererer.
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Or a rabbit.
I like Cindi. A. She never pretends to know more than she does. B. She has unbridled enthusiasm for her "Hotties," and isn't afraid to show it. -IM4Oakgal
I see the rabbit
not the other thing – I rest my case.
Don’t make me put up a poll!
If that poll stays up for 4 hours,
consult a doctor.
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At least some of the fastballs are inside the box
That’s good. Right? Right?!?
"There's never enough time to do all the nothing you want" -Bill Watterson
"Ovary but low"
Thanks, Vince.
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I just back from the game...
Daric came over to sign some autographs and I think he overheard me and my friend referring to him as Staplehead. I’m hoping he did. Blah, blah, blah… I got some heinous tanlines from the A’s bracelet I was wearing. I had still managed to have fun at the game, only because I stopped caring about the score around the 3rd inning.
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I see you can split molecules into atoms
Well, no ozone makers, please…they stink!
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by One won lost won on Aug 17, 2008 6:59 PM PDT up reply actions
one benefit
i had a hunch play at San Mateo today the horse was named “No nibbling”, it paid 19.80 to win. thank you AN, thank you Greg Smith
Congratulations! Here's another hot tip:
If there’s a horse named “Can’t Get Righties Out,” put money on him tomorrow. If there’s a horse named “Four Balls Again,” wait until Tuesday.
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Gio Looked
A bit nervous to me. Whether it was facing his old organization or being intimidated by their lineup I cannot say. Every mistake pitch he made hurt him.
The thing about that White Sox lineup as opposed to the A’s is the power threats from 1 through 9. The A’s are nowhere near that. Make a mistake to an A’s hitter and there is a good chance the ball stays in the park.
If the A’s were in the race a beatdown like this would piss me off. Since they are not I just look at it as another day in A’s purgatory. I really believe in a couple of years things will turn around.
Of course, make a mistake to the A's and there's a good chance contact will be made.
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Well it depends - I mean, first pitch you gotta
look it over and get into the feel of the at bat. Hanging curve be damned.
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A's demote Meyer after game...
as per MLB.com. No subsequent move announced.
That may be all she wrote for “Mr. Tim Hudson Trade.”
"just a beating heart ... plasma that we'll put into our uniform." - Billy Beane
by athleticsBB4life on Aug 17, 2008 6:42 PM PDT reply actions
I'm thinking there's a better chance we'll see Charles Thomas again than Meyer.
Rest In Peace, Dan Meyer’s potential.
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Juan Cruz will be a free agent this off-season
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by athleticsBB4life on Aug 17, 2008 6:47 PM PDT up reply actions
Any word on who is taking his place?
"You may glory in a team triumphant, but you fall in love with a team in defeat."--The Boys of Summer
I am thinking Saarloos for a long man.
by theblackpearl on Aug 17, 2008 7:02 PM PDT up reply actions
I'm thinking nobody, and the A's just got better!
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Why would Saarloos get the nod?
Are there no better options left in Sac?
"You may glory in a team triumphant, but you fall in love with a team in defeat."--The Boys of Summer
You are correct, sir
gigglingone is actually the #4 starter right now.
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Didja get Josh Hamilton in there?
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What are her stat lines?
Surely better than Los Kirk.
"You may glory in a team triumphant, but you fall in love with a team in defeat."--The Boys of Summer
amazing
even with the busted finger and recent surgery, I have yet to spend any time on the DL. I haven’t given up any homeruns this season, and haven’t walked any batters either. I’ve probably hit a few guys, but they deserved it…..oh wait, um, never mind….
There's no crying in baseball!
For future reference, you're supposed to
hit them with a baseball, not with a tire iron.
That reminds me, I have to call dad.
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Hearing all that....
I can only conclude you’re not much fun to date. ;)
"You may glory in a team triumphant, but you fall in love with a team in defeat."--The Boys of Summer
Try me.
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Who wouldn’t want to date a girl who likes sports, drinks beer, and prefers watching sporting events to crappy sitcoms? I’m every guy’s dream girl!
no seriously, i’m looking for a date, any takers? ;)
There's no crying in baseball!
by gigglingone on Aug 17, 2008 11:25 PM PDT up reply actions
This is AN Singles 1.0 right here.
BBG, take note.
"I'm telling you, I can't wait to put on that white uniform," Gonzalez said. "That will be the prettiest uniform I'll ever see."
that's right!
what happened to the website???
There's no crying in baseball!
by gigglingone on Aug 17, 2008 11:36 PM PDT up reply actions
She swears she's "working on it"
"I'm telling you, I can't wait to put on that white uniform," Gonzalez said. "That will be the prettiest uniform I'll ever see."
Well, lets see.....
Positives:
Likes sports. check
Likes beer. check
Negatives:
Given up no home runs, and most likely, no extra base hits. Then again, propensity for violence has resulted in a few “sympathy” walks to first.
I may already be married to you.
"You may glory in a team triumphant, but you fall in love with a team in defeat."--The Boys of Summer
Saarloos need not get the nod
There has to be someone with a little potential that can come up.
Saarloos, DiNardo etc are in the “been there, done that and failed” category
I hate unproductive outs and the A's are producing them at record production
You don't need potential for the long/garbage man, since you only want them to
pitch once a week, and Kirk is perfect for that.
by theblackpearl on Aug 17, 2008 7:23 PM PDT up reply actions
I was hoping there was someone
down in Sac that the A’s were interested in looking at. Since there are no front runners, maybe it will be Saarloos. Sad.
"You may glory in a team triumphant, but you fall in love with a team in defeat."--The Boys of Summer
today was my first game in person since May 29
it was sunny…I had two good friends with me at the game…we went out after the game to Fenton’s
(not much to say about the game)
Too bad your return to Oakland
has been marred by such a sorry showing from the local nine. Where did you go for so long?
"You may glory in a team triumphant, but you fall in love with a team in defeat."--The Boys of Summer
I have a horrible confession to make
The other day I went to Fenton’s, to order a Sweet Liberty and support Ken Korach’s program to help build baseball fields for kids. Then I saw the ingredients, looked again, said “Sorry, kids,” and ordered a banana split.
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What's in a Sweet Liberty?
(the straight man asked…)
every winning streak ends with taking your underpants off. @('.')@
by Leopold Bloom on Aug 17, 2008 9:51 PM PDT up reply actions
First of all, I've seen you interior decorate
and I’m not buying you as a straight man. I don’t remember exactly, but something about blueberry ice cream and strawberry ice cream, and other stuff that seemed strangely lacking in chocolate, caramel, nuts, and so on.
Red, white, and blue is fine until you try to build a sundae around it.
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There's a couple other exceptions ot that as well,
mainly (but not entirely) revolving around food.
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by Leopold Bloom on Aug 17, 2008 9:57 PM PDT up reply actions
It's Always Sunny in Oakland
But decidedly less funny.
Ryan Sweeney: I probably irrationally embraced him before you did.
I blame Ken Korach for the A's freefall. The A's were on a pace to win around 90
or so games, so he told Billy he couldn’t afford to give any more money to the A’s Winning Community fund, so Billy told the A’s not to win more than 70 games this year.
Sometimes you just gotta tip your cap to
Oh forget it.
Remember, “It’s always darkest just before the dawn.”
"All your baserunner are belong to Greg Smith" ~ walk off bunt
"Doc, my right wrist has been hurting more and more since mid-July."
“Hmm…Have you been tipping your hat a lot?”
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So THAT'S the cause of the A's injury woes!
"All your baserunner are belong to Greg Smith" ~ walk off bunt
by Philip Christy on Aug 17, 2008 8:11 PM PDT up reply actions
I don't know how the A's don't have more DL's from whiplash. Watching the ball go into
the catchers glove at bat, then watching the ball go into the stands, while on defense.
by theblackpearl on Aug 17, 2008 8:15 PM PDT up reply actions
They don't watch. That's us.
The A’s hitters don’t have to look at the catcher’s glove – they KNOW the pitch was 1/16" outside, no matter what anyone…say, the ump…says.
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I didn't realize it was called "tipping your hat" now
I’ve always used more commonly accepted euphemisms.
"There's never enough time to do all the nothing you want" -Bill Watterson
Haven't you been reading the game threads -
Don’t you realize how many Jacks off the roster people want?
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Lets just say
When I tip my hat I don’t strickout(!!!!!111one)
Unless, of course, you’re referring to stricking out at life.
"There's never enough time to do all the nothing you want" -Bill Watterson
Of course you don't strikeout -
Heck, even Jack Cust needs to do it for a minute and a half to strikeout.
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That's only because he has a really good eye
"There's never enough time to do all the nothing you want" -Bill Watterson
Brilliant.
You are (or appear to be) a comedy genius, my friend.
"All your baserunner are belong to Greg Smith" ~ walk off bunt
by Philip Christy on Aug 17, 2008 9:00 PM PDT up reply actions
So THAT'S the cause of the A's injury woes!
"All your baserunner are belong to Greg Smith" ~ walk off bunt
by Philip Christy on Aug 17, 2008 9:00 PM PDT up reply actions
Wow. Rays just walked Josh Hamilton with the bases loaded.
The Rangers were down by 4 at the time, in the 9th inning, with two outs, and Marlon Byrd up next, so it wasn’t that dumb an idea.
Still, I’ve only heard of that happening two other times in history. Once was about 10 years ago to Barry Bonds, with two outs in the ninth, and it worked; the Dbacks got the next guy out to win the game.
"All your baserunner are belong to Greg Smith" ~ walk off bunt
And it worked today too
Byrd struck out to end the game.
"All your baserunner are belong to Greg Smith" ~ walk off bunt
by Philip Christy on Aug 17, 2008 8:22 PM PDT up reply actions
If you're Byrd
Are you crushed, embarrassed, mortified, unwilling to come to work tomorrow, or all of the above?
Hamilton is good and all, but he isn’t 2001 Bonds (or even close).
"There's never enough time to do all the nothing you want" -Bill Watterson
If I'm Byrd,
I’m probably in a fowl mood.
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Stop it!
You are too much!
"All your baserunner are belong to Greg Smith" ~ walk off bunt
by Philip Christy on Aug 17, 2008 9:01 PM PDT up reply actions
I really like Joe Maddon
I’m pretty sure Babe Ruth was once walked with the bases loaded, too, in a similar situation.
I like Cindi. A. She never pretends to know more than she does. B. She has unbridled enthusiasm for her "Hotties," and isn't afraid to show it. -IM4Oakgal
Interesting - in Sacramento's 5-4 win tonight
(2 in the bottom of the 9th), Aaron Cunningham did not play. Maybe just a day off, but I know Dan Meyer has been sent down and no one called up yet to take his spot…
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Please please please please please
I need something to be excited about while following this team, and Gio/Cargo/Barton ain’t cutting it.
"All your baserunner are belong to Greg Smith" ~ walk off bunt
by Philip Christy on Aug 17, 2008 9:02 PM PDT up reply actions
Aren't those compartments in a train?
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Only other minor league notable I found was that
in Stockton’s 6-3 win, Corey Brown went 3 for 4 with 2 HRs. No report from Midland – don’t know if they were rained out or are just late providing the box score.
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Where do you find these?
In case I wanna look them up for myself in the future.
"All your baserunner are belong to Greg Smith" ~ walk off bunt
by Philip Christy on Aug 17, 2008 9:22 PM PDT up reply actions
I just use the links to the left, about halfway down the AN front page -
(Sacramento, Midland, Stockton, etc. all one after the other). For each minor league team, the box scores are updated on the front page throughout the team’s game. It’s keeping me going right now to check in on the minor league teams!
I like Cindi. A. She never pretends to know more than she does. B. She has unbridled enthusiasm for her "Hotties," and isn't afraid to show it. -IM4Oakgal
milb.com
has live box scores/play-by-play for all minor league games, and gameday for AA and AAA.
The A's colors are green and gold.
clicking on milb.com is like hitting on goats?
I like Cindi. A. She never pretends to know more than she does. B. She has unbridled enthusiasm for her "Hotties," and isn't afraid to show it. -IM4Oakgal
In a metaphysical sense, it's all the same.
or none of it is. One of the two…I always forget which…
every winning streak ends with taking your underpants off. @('.')@
by Leopold Bloom on Aug 17, 2008 9:54 PM PDT up reply actions
Good enough for me
{clicks on milb.com}
I like Cindi. A. She never pretends to know more than she does. B. She has unbridled enthusiasm for her "Hotties," and isn't afraid to show it. -IM4Oakgal
payment in goats is what has held the A's farm system back for so many years
The A's colors are green and gold.
So the Rays announcers tonight
mentioned that Joaquin Benoit has a seven inning save in 2002, and that it’s a record. Could someone smarter than me esplain how one gets a seven inning save? It’s hurting my brain and keeping me awake.
I see a deranged rabbit, on fire, cowering away from a vagina. I await the results of the Rorschaschererer. -Nico
Well, just guessing here but if the starter
only went, say, one inning, and then someone else pitched one inning, and then Benoit pitched the last seven, the first reliever could be credited with the win and Benoit the save.
I like Cindi. A. She never pretends to know more than she does. B. She has unbridled enthusiasm for her "Hotties," and isn't afraid to show it. -IM4Oakgal
Oh, and the record was probably just
“consecutive innings that a manager was actually willing to watch Benoit pitch.”
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I'm saying.
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by Leopold Bloom on Aug 17, 2008 10:06 PM PDT up reply actions
It would only be appropiate to call that a "save" if the pitcher was on the A's or the Giants
The A's colors are green and gold.
Thats why the save rule is crazy
You get a save for pitching the final 3 or more innings of a game (as long as you don’t get the win) no matter what the score is.
"There's never enough time to do all the nothing you want" -Bill Watterson
wouldn't the proper thing to do in that instance be to give Benoit the win?
I mean, I know that your team has to go ahead with you in the game, but if the reliever is so bad, you’re pulling him for Benoit in the third…doesn’t logic dictate that no one should get the win?
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Well, it could be that the first reliever is
a short reliever – maybe the starter leaves with an injury and you get Blevins up to face a lefty-heavy portion of the lineup, then go to your long-reliever to go “as long as he can” – and he goes 7. I think that if the official scorer has the opportunity to award a win and a save, he/she is supposed to choose that route.
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is it ever appropriate to not award a win?
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by Leopold Bloom on Aug 17, 2008 10:19 PM PDT up reply actions
Only in "All Star" games that don't "count"
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It's my understanding
that the only time an official scorer has the opportunity to assign a Win to a pitcher is if the starting pitcher leaves the game before finishing 5 innings and when that team both has the lead and keeps it through the rest of the game. So, tied or behind when reliever #1 comes in. Now has the lead when Benoit comes in. Opposing team sucks the rest of the game.
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HERE'S THE STORY:
Aaron Myette started the game for the Rangers. He threw two pitches behind Melvin Mora, the Orioles’ leadoff hitter, and was ejected by the plate umpire Mark Hirschbeck. I’m not sure if Mora walked while Myette was in the game, or when Todd Van Poppel took over, but he got a walk, and Myette was credited with having bequeathed it. Myette’s line on the day: 0 innings pitched, 1 BB.
Van Poppel took over and allowed one walk in 2 innings, while striking out 5. Meanwhile, he Rangers offense scored 3 runs in the top of the second. Then Benoit, probably appropriately warmed up by this time, took over in the bottom of the third, and in fact did not allow the Oriole’s first hit until the first batter in the bottom of the ninth inning, Jerry Hairston, hit a leadoff triple. Benoit then allowed an RBI groundout to Chris Richard before retiring the side.
So, in a game in which Joaquin Benoit set a major league record for most innings required to earn a save, the Rangers pitching staff also almost recorded a combined no-hitter. Yeah, it almost seems more fair to award the guy who pitched 7 innings of one-hit ball the Win in the game, but that’s part of the reason the stat is so ridiculous, isn’t it?
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by Philip Christy on Aug 17, 2008 10:39 PM PDT reply actions
Cool
Thanks for saving me from having to look it up.
"There's never enough time to do all the nothing you want" -Bill Watterson
So basically, the Orioles were nearly no-hit by
Todd van Poppel and Joaquin Benoit.
I like Cindi. A. She never pretends to know more than she does. B. She has unbridled enthusiasm for her "Hotties," and isn't afraid to show it. -IM4Oakgal
When you say it like that,
it sounds so bad.
I see a deranged rabbit, on fire, cowering away from a vagina. I await the results of the Rorschaschererer. -Nico
by Leopold Bloom on Aug 18, 2008 8:41 AM PDT up reply actions
The verdict
from the NYC A’s contingent is 5-5 or better on this road trip. Bold? Yes. But we’ll stand by it. If not, we owe you a collective beer (and two of us own a bar in Brooklyn, so we can make good on that). If we win, then, umm, something. You guys pick.
Also, most times when you folks back home watch an A’s game, we’d like you to know, and find some strange comfort, in the fact that cheers go up for a) Duchscherer b) Ziggy c) Custy in the middle of Brooklyn from 10 pm-1 am ET. (People may criticize us for the Cust part, but we love him best. And we don’t care what anyone else says.)
by brooklynathleticsfan on Aug 18, 2008 7:03 AM PDT reply actions
Excellent
And stay strong in your love of our best offensive player
"There's never enough time to do all the nothing you want" -Bill Watterson
I think the one thing all A's fans can agree on
about Cust is that he is our most offensive player.
I like Cindi. A. She never pretends to know more than she does. B. She has unbridled enthusiasm for her "Hotties," and isn't afraid to show it. -IM4Oakgal
has he stopped wearing deodorant again?
I see a deranged rabbit, on fire, cowering away from a vagina. I await the results of the Rorschaschererer. -Nico
by Leopold Bloom on Aug 18, 2008 8:42 AM PDT up reply actions
Take a whiff - just like Cust does
I like Cindi. A. She never pretends to know more than she does. B. She has unbridled enthusiasm for her "Hotties," and isn't afraid to show it. -IM4Oakgal
it smells like Jack Cust musk.
I see a deranged rabbit, on fire, cowering away from a vagina. I await the results of the Rorschaschererer. -Nico
by Leopold Bloom on Aug 18, 2008 10:07 AM PDT up reply actions
Cust must smell
shower-fresh, in that he’s always exposing his underarms by swinging. Home run, walk, or strikeout, it’s not going to cost him much sweat, like those guys who leg out doubles or triples.
by brooklynathleticsfan on Aug 18, 2008 9:35 AM PDT reply actions
He also allegedly had a locker in between
Jack Hannahan and Donnie Murphy, and is currently under investigation after testing positive for Irish Spring.
I like Cindi. A. She never pretends to know more than she does. B. She has unbridled enthusiasm for her "Hotties," and isn't afraid to show it. -IM4Oakgal
you know it's bad when the diehards in the left field bleachers are fighting with themselves...
sunday’s game was horrendous. the classic example of what happens when you play boys against men. i guess the “emperor has no clothes on” analogy hasn’t caught up yet or lucky energy prices are so expensive…attendance seemed to be quite good. if this is the best the minors have, then it looks like fans should expect similar performance for the next several years.
Hope Gio doesn't turn into a Meyer
Right now Gio’s line with the A’s is looking a lot like Meyer’s:
Meyer: 14.2IP, 15H, 9ER, 4HR, 7BB, 13K
Gio: 14.1IP, 15H, 12ER, 4HR, 11BB, 11K
If the A’s keep giving him innings, I guess we’ll find out by the end of the season if he’s a keeper, or if we’ll need to call up more prospects.
by asfansince1989 on Aug 18, 2008 11:11 AM PDT reply actions
One more depressing stats
Guess who leads the A’s staff in starter ERA post all-star-break?
Dallas Braden, at 4.5
by asfansince1989 on Aug 18, 2008 11:13 AM PDT reply actions
And wins
Over the last 30 games, hasn’t he started three of the A’s five wins? That’s right – five wins.
I like Cindi. A. She never pretends to know more than she does. B. She has unbridled enthusiasm for her "Hotties," and isn't afraid to show it. -IM4Oakgal
That many?
I actually thought it was less.
Is there enough time for us to finish in dead last?
I see a deranged rabbit, on fire, cowering away from a vagina. I await the results of the Rorschaschererer. -Nico
by Leopold Bloom on Aug 18, 2008 1:56 PM PDT up reply actions
Shoulda traded him
We’d be that much closer to the 1st pick now.
by asfansince1989 on Aug 18, 2008 2:46 PM PDT up reply actions
No, but day-to-day last is still quite likely
I like Cindi. A. She never pretends to know more than she does. B. She has unbridled enthusiasm for her "Hotties," and isn't afraid to show it. -IM4Oakgal
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