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"Place your deposit for 2009 tickets today"

Yeah, right. The A's actually had the nerve to send out their 2009 season ticket renewal information yesterday. As if I am going to pony up for season tickets when the owner can't even pony up to give his team a chance at the playoffs. Forget it, Lew.

Star-divide

The A's need to give me a reason to spend money on them. The days of blind faith in your team are over, especially today in an economy that is tenuous at best. When the defending Stanley Cup champion Detroit Red Wings don't even have a waiting list for season tickets, you know times have changed.

So why should I give you my money, Mr. Wolff? I'd like a detailed response to my inquiry, as a "shareholder" in your organization/business. If I don't give you my money -- and other like-minded fans do the same -- how will you fund your team? Out of your own, plenty-deep pockets?

Why should I spend my hard-earned money when you don't spend yours?

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Ah, here we go again with the misconception that ownership doesn't spend money...

…when what you’re really saying is “You don’t spend enough money and you don’t spend it the way I think you should.”

Last of the Ninth - Photography Site / jamesvenes.com - Blog

by Flashfire on Aug 15, 2008 10:08 AM PDT reply actions   0 recs

And out of curiosity...

…your last diary had 72 comments. Only one of them was yours. Are you just tossing stuff against the wall and sitting back to watch the reactions?

Last of the Ninth - Photography Site / jamesvenes.com - Blog

by Flashfire on Aug 15, 2008 10:12 AM PDT reply actions   0 recs

"The owner has money and chooses not to spend it."

I see you went with the same angle a week ago, as well.

Last of the Ninth - Photography Site / jamesvenes.com - Blog

by Flashfire on Aug 15, 2008 10:13 AM PDT reply actions   0 recs

Dear Ownership,

Please spend money to entertain me, while I don’t pay for the entertainment. Now if you’ll excuse me, I need to go crash a concert and try to convince the performers to come to my house and recreate the performance while I drink beer and play with myself.

Sincererly,

A Lot of Sports Fans.

I like Cindi. A. She never pretends to know more than she does. B. She has unbridled enthusiasm for her "Hotties," and isn't afraid to show it. -IM4Oakgal

by Nico on Aug 15, 2008 10:33 AM PDT reply actions   0 recs

It seems an odd time

for auto erotica. Is that a fetish?

every winning streak ends with taking your underpants off. @('.')@

by Leopold Bloom on Aug 15, 2008 11:36 AM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Hot August Nights?

"May a nit suck Cajun geese?" wonders Red. No, we see gnu Jack Cust in a yam.

by andeux on Aug 15, 2008 12:04 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

carma sutra?

The meaning of life is not so much 'found,' as it is 'made.' --Opus

by The Dogfather on Aug 15, 2008 2:27 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

you are neither a beautiful and unique snowflake nor a "shareholder"

You are a customer.

You are also another word, that begins with “t” …

There were a lot of stupid, long confusing words that I’m sure normal people don’t use. @('.')@

by monkeyball on Aug 15, 2008 10:46 AM PDT reply actions   0 recs

"R" begins with "t"?

English is such a confusing language.

I like Cindi. A. She never pretends to know more than she does. B. She has unbridled enthusiasm for her "Hotties," and isn't afraid to show it. -IM4Oakgal

by Nico on Aug 15, 2008 11:14 AM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

trout?

every winning streak ends with taking your underpants off. @('.')@

by Leopold Bloom on Aug 15, 2008 11:37 AM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

good times:

first:
http://www.athleticsnation.com/2007/7/29/17553/0154
then a little while later:
http://www.athleticsnation.com/2007/7/29/181448/476

I must say, however, that I prefer mcbronsh.

The A's colors are green and gold.

by mikeA on Aug 15, 2008 10:52 AM PDT reply actions   0 recs

RE: http://www.athleticsnation.com/2007/7/29/181448/476

Athletics Fan in London had a point in that diary. Is being an A’s fan who’s unhappy with the direction of the team equivalent with being a troll? Other than giving up in June in spite of a winning record two years running, which is my only real annoyance with the team, I’m not unhappy with the direction of the team, so I may lack sufficient perspective on the matter.

"PECOTA can pretty much kiss my ass."-Nico

by jeepers on Aug 15, 2008 12:58 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

There's that, but I also wonder about the people who pull the "If they won't spend money on the team, why should I?" line.

Are they currently season ticket holders and plan not to renew?

How many games do they go to?

What A’s-related things do they buy?

Or do they just watch the games on TV and maybe get a hat every once in a while?

Last of the Ninth - Photography Site / jamesvenes.com - Blog

by Flashfire on Aug 15, 2008 1:02 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

I mostly just watch the games on TV and maybe buy $2 Wednesday tickets and steal Lew's kraut once in a while

There were a lot of stupid, long confusing words that I’m sure normal people don’t use. @('.')@

by monkeyball on Aug 15, 2008 1:51 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

I wish mayo was readily available

I’m one of those freaks who likes it on hot dogs and hamburgers.

Not fries, though.

Last of the Ninth - Photography Site / jamesvenes.com - Blog

by Flashfire on Aug 15, 2008 2:07 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

you will have to look long and hard to find a primate who likes mayo more than I do

But mayo on hot dogs? No. There are some perversions that even I cannot stomach.

And, being of French descent, I am genetically programmed to eat fries with mayo.

There were a lot of stupid, long confusing words that I’m sure normal people don’t use. @('.')@

by monkeyball on Aug 15, 2008 2:16 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

There are no perversions that I cannot stomach

Well that’s not quite true – when I’m eating liver with mustard, anchovies, and caramel sauce, while sexually assaulting a frightened chicken, I am apt to say, “People root for the Angels to WIN? Eeeewwww!!!!!”

I like Cindi. A. She never pretends to know more than she does. B. She has unbridled enthusiasm for her "Hotties," and isn't afraid to show it. -IM4Oakgal

by Nico on Aug 15, 2008 2:39 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

when I’m eating liver with mustard, anchovies, and caramel sauce

Hey, my wife tried that when she was pregnant!

I generally bemoan the profusion of Mr Sabermetric Sporks in the Scrabble ranks who don't know the meaning or usage of 50% of the words they use. -monkeyball

by JediLeroy on Aug 16, 2008 2:49 AM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

does that make you a frightened chicken?

There were a lot of stupid, long confusing words that I’m sure normal people don’t use. @('.')@

by monkeyball on Aug 16, 2008 7:49 AM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Otherwise known as "my date tonight"

I like Cindi. A. She never pretends to know more than she does. B. She has unbridled enthusiasm for her "Hotties," and isn't afraid to show it. -IM4Oakgal

by Nico on Aug 16, 2008 8:04 AM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

I eat fries with mayo, too.

And it makes people look at me like I’ve got three heads.

Interweaving, diverse, not to say conflictive emphases and a broad spectrum of items to form a dynamic exchange of parallel and self-eclipsing spatial and temporal zones.

by Poppy on Aug 15, 2008 3:26 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

I have three heads, and it makes people

look at me like I eat fries with mayo.

I like Cindi. A. She never pretends to know more than she does. B. She has unbridled enthusiasm for her "Hotties," and isn't afraid to show it. -IM4Oakgal

by Nico on Aug 15, 2008 3:36 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

I've purchased a road authetntic cap like four years ago

of course I had low expectations going into this year, if they finished the year with 81 wins I would have been as giddy as K-Rod after picking up a save in Kansas City.

by buddahead9 on Aug 15, 2008 2:04 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Slippery slope

In many stadium/payroll conversations I sometimes feel frustrated when A’s fans who don’t live in NoCal, or don’t often attend games, express support for a team move. The rationale that new ballpark = more payroll = more team success (leave aside that it ain’t that easy) completely ignores the effect on the game-attending part of the fan base. It strikes me as callous that way. But I rarely if ever play the “I go to lotsa games” card, because fans have a right to their opinions about the team’s direction whether they live in Oakland, San Jose, or Tampa. The context in which a complaint is made is important, sure, but there’s no minimum ante of games/tickets/tee-shirts which is required for entry into the dialog.

Unless you live in Boston. That’s prima facia evidence of shitheadedness.

Arte didn't get much Home Run Derby. He was dug in too deep or moving too fast. His idea of great R&R was cold rice and a little rat meat.

by FreeSeatUpgrade on Aug 15, 2008 2:17 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

I hear you loud and clear on that

What my gripe is has more to do with people who say “I’m not going to give the team my money if the team doesn’t spend any,” except they’re already not doing that in the first place if they’re not even in the area or they are and don’t go to games as it is.

It’d be one thing if it was a season ticket holder deciding to cancel. It’s another entirely when it’s someone in, say, Florida who isn’t going to be attending A’s games to begin with. They could use the Extra Innings package but I’m pretty sure the amount of money that goes from that to the A’s is pennies per person.

It’s just an attitude that makes those people come off like they’re the most important fan the A’s can have when in reality they’re just one of many. In the long run, it’s the season ticket holders that are the most important because they’re the ones that bring the team the most money among the fanbase.

Last of the Ninth - Photography Site / jamesvenes.com - Blog

by Flashfire on Aug 15, 2008 2:27 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

That seems to be the implication

of the statement that the received their season ticket renewal information today.

"PECOTA can pretty much kiss my ass."-Nico

by jeepers on Aug 15, 2008 3:00 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Not necessarily

I’m not a season ticket holder and I got the e-mail as well. I’m signed up to their e-mail list.

Last of the Ninth - Photography Site / jamesvenes.com - Blog

by Flashfire on Aug 15, 2008 3:03 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

I think you're right, it's an email list thing.

Current season ticketholders don’t need to put a deposit on their next year’s plan until after they’ve received their renewal invoice. I’m pretty sure those don’t go out until about November.

Interweaving, diverse, not to say conflictive emphases and a broad spectrum of items to form a dynamic exchange of parallel and self-eclipsing spatial and temporal zones.

by Poppy on Aug 15, 2008 3:29 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

"There's never enough time to do all the nothing you want" -Bill Watterson

by nevermoor on Aug 15, 2008 11:32 AM PDT reply actions   0 recs

I think Unca Lew gives Billy a lot of discretion around payroll.

It’s our GM who hasn’t chosen to spend it on bullshit in a rebuilding year. We know they’ll go into the $70s at least, when there’s a good reason to do so. I wouldn’t be surprised to see some money flow in the off-season.

And then, of course, McT will gladly lavish his financial affectations on our Heroes. Do let us know, won’t you?

The meaning of life is not so much 'found,' as it is 'made.' --Opus

by The Dogfather on Aug 15, 2008 2:35 PM PDT reply actions   0 recs

There were a lot of stupid, long confusing words that I’m sure normal people don’t use. @('.')@

by monkeyball on Aug 15, 2008 2:45 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

SPEAK UP!

The meaning of life is not so much 'found,' as it is 'made.' --Opus

by The Dogfather on Aug 15, 2008 2:51 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

looks like I picked the wrong week to stop sniffing ether

There were a lot of stupid, long confusing words that I’m sure normal people don’t use. @('.')@

by monkeyball on Aug 15, 2008 3:12 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

let's try that again

There were a lot of stupid, long confusing words that I’m sure normal people don’t use. @('.')@

by monkeyball on Aug 15, 2008 3:22 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Yaaaawwwwwnnnnn!!!!!!

Based on your usenet history of empty threats, you’re not going anywhere.

"If I've got baggage, he's got a whole set of Louis Vuitton." ~ Milton Bradley on Barry Bonds

by UncleLeo on Aug 15, 2008 3:43 PM PDT reply actions   0 recs

Empty threats?

My jokes bomb, while my looks break mirrors and cameras. Be very afraid.

I like Cindi. A. She never pretends to know more than she does. B. She has unbridled enthusiasm for her "Hotties," and isn't afraid to show it. -IM4Oakgal

by Nico on Aug 15, 2008 3:47 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

I Go 2 Lotsa Games

I AM a season Ticket holder and will re-up next season. A crappy season of A’s Baseball is better than…well…um…I am not sure why I do it. Oh, I know, I am an A’s fan.

Enjoy the game

by DCinWC on Aug 15, 2008 5:41 PM PDT reply actions   0 recs

...better than a "Good" season of Giants Baseball!!

"He's day-to-day," Geren said. "But aren't we all?" - 5/29/08

by BobbyCrosbysGirl on Aug 16, 2008 2:15 AM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Better than a "good" season of any other team

"However, at Elias, I think they keep track of the amount of sunflower seeds spit in a dugout each night." - Brad Ziegler, 8/7/08

by doctorK on Aug 16, 2008 10:17 AM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Yeah

It strikes me as trolling. Come in, stir some crap up and then disappear.

by Tyler Bleszinski on Aug 16, 2008 10:40 AM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Yan Can Cook

He stirs crap up as well. As for Estaban, well, I am not so sure about him. I think he just disappears.

Enjoy the game

by DCinWC on Aug 16, 2008 11:14 AM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Correct me if I'm wrong

But isn’t trolling a 3-strick insta-ban offense?

"There's never enough time to do all the nothing you want" -Bill Watterson

by nevermoor on Aug 16, 2008 12:00 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Yes!!!1111

I like Cindi. A. She never pretends to know more than she does. B. She has unbridled enthusiasm for her "Hotties," and isn't afraid to show it. -IM4Oakgal

by Nico on Aug 16, 2008 3:19 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

well then...

"There's never enough time to do all the nothing you want" -Bill Watterson

by nevermoor on Aug 16, 2008 6:08 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

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