DLD 8.15.08 Wake Up! A's "might" stay in Oakland
by LongTimeFan on Aug 15, 2008 7:05 AM PDT
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PrintMayor Ron Dellums sees some renewed hope for the A's chances of staying in Oakland.
Two weeks after A's owner Lew Wolff said he wasn't sure if he would succeed in building a proposed 32,000-seat stadium in Fremont, Dellums told the Tribune he's prepared to do anything "within reason" to keep the A's in town.
Article in today's Tribune Dellums hopes A's stay in Oakland.
Long way to go, but as Skigurl was saying yesterday, Robert Bob is back in Oakland, and he has been very supportive of keeping the A's here. Now this is the kind of rumor I really like. Stay A's!
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It would be nice if they did stay in OAK.
Has there been any talk (in the past) of where a possible sight would be within OAK? I do not live out there and I do not know OAK at all other than the area around the stadium.
The swinging (and missing) A's of 2008!!
Yes, several sites have been studied
Oakland A’s Fan Coalition has thumbnails of those that were leading contenders here.
by Englishmajor on Aug 15, 2008 8:13 AM PDT up reply actions
hooray for cuteness!
Brainless Automaton #439
by rubin sierra on Aug 15, 2008 12:36 PM PDT up reply actions
That scares me.
Interweaving, diverse, not to say conflictive emphases and a broad spectrum of items to form a dynamic exchange of parallel and self-eclipsing spatial and temporal zones.
I had a pet raccoon as a child.
They’re pretty cool, actually.
every winning streak ends with taking your underpants off. @('.')@
by Leopold Bloom on Aug 15, 2008 3:59 PM PDT up reply actions
uh-oh ...
There were a lot of stupid, long confusing words that I’m sure normal people don’t use. @('.')@
Raccoons are pretty nasty
I had some in my apartment a few weeks ago. Fortunately the Ferocious Brazilian Cat and I both slept through their incursion and only found out by the disgusting mess they made of the cat’s water dish.
by Englishmajor on Aug 15, 2008 4:41 PM PDT up reply actions
If this was a comic
the next panel would show the raccoon gnawing that person’s face off…
Green Hulk Fists
by oaklandSMASH on Aug 16, 2008 12:36 AM PDT up reply actions
Happy Dog Day!
Anybody going to watch us hound the ChiSox tonight?
The meaning of life is not so much 'found,' as it is 'made.' --Opus
Is that when we circle around them for a while
lift our collective legs and pee on them. After which, they beat us to a pulp? Those bastards, they hate dogs.
In search of a new signature. Say something funny and you may see your comment here!
PICTURES!
(well, not of what DMOAS describes)
I need pictures of cute dogs with baseball.
every winning streak ends with taking your underpants off. @('.')@
by Leopold Bloom on Aug 15, 2008 9:02 AM PDT up reply actions
White sox beat puppies
I think our team qualifies as a team of puppies
by asfansince1989 on Aug 15, 2008 4:36 PM PDT up reply actions
Charlotte, Emily or Anne?
every winning streak ends with taking your underpants off. @('.')@
by Leopold Bloom on Aug 15, 2008 1:36 PM PDT up reply actions
hmmm...
all apologies to to Branny.
every winning streak ends with taking your underpants off. @('.')@
by Leopold Bloom on Aug 15, 2008 1:46 PM PDT up reply actions
now you've got Angria Monkey
There were a lot of stupid, long confusing words that I’m sure normal people don’t use. @('.')@
I'm sorry,
I don’t practice angria. I ain’t got no crystal ball.
every winning streak ends with taking your underpants off. @('.')@
by Leopold Bloom on Aug 15, 2008 1:51 PM PDT up reply actions
Really
I’d love the A’s to stay in Oakland. I’d love them to play in Fremont. I don’t care as long as they are in the Bay Area.
But seriously, there is nothing in that article that gives me any reason to believe that is more than Ron Dellums spouting crap. He has struck me as a garbage politician of the worst kind.
I read this as him trying to appear interested. Way too little, way too late.
I look at the sites on the OAFC page and it is interesting to note that the best one was remvoed from the list by the mayor of Oakland, the second best one was removed by the Port of Oakland, the third best one was basically the first Lew Wolff proposal (in area not specifically the parking lot) which went no where. The fourth one?
yup, and yup
There’s no there there in that article. And I (as an admitted non-Oaklander whose impression of Dellums is gleaned almost entirely from Chip Johnson’s columns) agree about Dellums.
There were a lot of stupid, long confusing words that I’m sure normal people don’t use. @('.')@
I live in SF
“From” is a question with a long answer; short version is Vermont.
There were a lot of stupid, long confusing words that I’m sure normal people don’t use. @('.')@
hippie.
every winning streak ends with taking your underpants off. @('.')@
by Leopold Bloom on Aug 15, 2008 9:47 AM PDT up reply actions
only acceptable if you append "df" to the front
There were a lot of stupid, long confusing words that I’m sure normal people don’t use. @('.')@
dfhippie?
I like Cindi. A. She never pretends to know more than she does. B. She has unbridled enthusiasm for her "Hotties," and isn't afraid to show it. -IM4Oakgal
Default hippie?
every winning streak ends with taking your underpants off. @('.')@
by Leopold Bloom on Aug 15, 2008 10:36 AM PDT up reply actions
claim a job off the waivers
dirty hippie!
Green Hulk Fists
by oaklandSMASH on Aug 16, 2008 12:38 AM PDT up reply actions
I hope not.
That would mean I’ve got AN angry monkey, which is never good…
every winning streak ends with taking your underpants off. @('.')@
by Leopold Bloom on Aug 15, 2008 12:30 PM PDT up reply actions
Chip can be a bit schitzo
As witnessed by his ringing endorsement and then wholesale repudiation, within like a one month span, of the police parcel tax proposed by Dellums and others. But Chip has been more right than wrong on the Dellums subject.
If you really want a good oakland affairs source, bookmark A Better Oakland, the author of which posts here occasionally (and in this very thread). I don’t always agree with her, but she’s sharp and clearly busts her butt to get good info on Oakland which is otherwise well below the MSM radar.
Arte didn't get much Home Run Derby. He was dug in too deep or moving too fast. His idea of great R&R was cold rice and a little rat meat.
by FreeSeatUpgrade on Aug 15, 2008 11:44 AM PDT up reply actions
Thanks, FSU--good link~
every winning streak ends with taking your underpants off. @('.')@
by Leopold Bloom on Aug 15, 2008 12:02 PM PDT up reply actions
is it rob bob or bubb rubb?
i think the comments from dellums may be just for decoration, that’s it and that’s all.
A's v Giants "is kind of like the difference between going to see the Ramones and going to see the Bee Gees. A's fans will go see the Ramones." -BB 07/27/05
are you sure it's not Bob Roberts?
There were a lot of stupid, long confusing words that I’m sure normal people don’t use. @('.')@
Excellent video
If that lame trumpet puppet routine doesn’t catch on, then the A’s should use Bubb Rubb’s banshee call of “Woo woo” as a rally initiator.
I am Ray Fosse's infatuations with Clay Wood and high-definition television.
by franks a lot on Aug 15, 2008 10:47 AM PDT up reply actions
Rosenthal: Ellis postpones negotiations ...
There were a lot of stupid, long confusing words that I’m sure normal people don’t use. @('.')@
Bummer.
Rosenthal is right more often than he isn’t. I still like Eric Patterson, though.
"PECOTA can pretty much kiss my ass."-Nico
possibly
explaining his body language lately….he’s probably slightly disgusted with the organization. So am I.
"The two of them deserve each other. One's a born liar, the other's convicted."
and juan cruz nets a comp draft pick for the dbacks
from that same link, I was sad to see that the 1 player the A’s got who ended up in the majors longer than a single season nets a draft pick. that just hurts. At least we can say w/ respect to JC that BB was "ahead of his time’.
by rollierollieOxenfree on Aug 17, 2008 1:40 AM PDT up reply actions
Renewing mikeA’s faith in academia.
There were a lot of stupid, long confusing words that I’m sure normal people don’t use. @('.')@
The need to publish has officially gotten
completely, totally, and needlessly out of hand. Isn’t there some other arbitrary, time and energy-wasting way we can subjectively torture grad students? Couldn’t we physically torture them instead, perhaps? Some kind of physical hazing, drink a bottle of grain alcohol and have sex with a puma?
every winning streak ends with taking your underpants off. @('.')@
by Leopold Bloom on Aug 15, 2008 9:45 AM PDT up reply actions
{enrolls in graduate school}
I like Cindi. A. She never pretends to know more than she does. B. She has unbridled enthusiasm for her "Hotties," and isn't afraid to show it. -IM4Oakgal
A's v Giants "is kind of like the difference between going to see the Ramones and going to see the Bee Gees. A's fans will go see the Ramones." -BB 07/27/05
I love the picture that goes along with it
There's no crying in baseball!
by gigglingone on Aug 15, 2008 10:55 AM PDT up reply actions
hmmm
we’re gonna need more beer…
Green Hulk Fists
by oaklandSMASH on Aug 16, 2008 12:40 AM PDT up reply actions
maybe you should join the debate team
There are some great coaches out there….
There's no crying in baseball!
by gigglingone on Aug 15, 2008 10:59 AM PDT up reply actions
Clicking on a link from that link, I see
how messed up Americans are, nicely encapsulated in the following AP story about new guidelines for Cincinnati priests: “The Archdiocese of Cincinnati has issued a detailed list of inappropriate behaviors for priests, saying they should not kiss, tickle or wrestle children. The archdiocese’s Decree on Child Protection also prohibits bear hugs, lap-sitting and piggyback rides. But it says priests may still shake children’s hands, pat them on the back and give high-fives.”
Hey, little 5-year old Tommy- you fell down and got an owie on your elbow? Let me shake your hand.
I like Cindi. A. She never pretends to know more than she does. B. She has unbridled enthusiasm for her "Hotties," and isn't afraid to show it. -IM4Oakgal
but are priests allowed to give children terrorist fist-bumps?
There were a lot of stupid, long confusing words that I’m sure normal people don’t use. @('.')@
Depends where the fist goes, I reckon.
If the fist-bump takes place in the rectory, probably not.
I like Cindi. A. She never pretends to know more than she does. B. She has unbridled enthusiasm for her "Hotties," and isn't afraid to show it. -IM4Oakgal
... Nearly killed 'im!
The meaning of life is not so much 'found,' as it is 'made.' --Opus
by The Dogfather on Aug 15, 2008 3:40 PM PDT up reply actions
that's a narthex-rated comment
There were a lot of stupid, long confusing words that I’m sure normal people don’t use. @('.')@
Looks like I picked the right thread to commit sacrilege.
The meaning of life is not so much 'found,' as it is 'made.' --Opus
by The Dogfather on Aug 15, 2008 4:05 PM PDT up reply actions
I thought the A's didn't sacrilege
There were a lot of stupid, long confusing words that I’m sure normal people don’t use. @('.')@
QOTM
Proximity counts in wordplay as well as hand grenades.
"I never predict anything, and I never will." Paul Gascoigne, English footballer
by One won lost won on Aug 15, 2008 4:39 PM PDT up reply actions
PROOF OF THE THESIS!!!
This either proves the hypothesis … or explains that Dan Johnson has gone AWOL from the Durham Bulls.
There were a lot of stupid, long confusing words that I’m sure normal people don’t use. @('.')@
Aw, they don't know squatch.
The meaning of life is not so much 'found,' as it is 'made.' --Opus
by The Dogfather on Aug 15, 2008 4:27 PM PDT up reply actions
Kotsay hits for the cycle
Poor Galt …
by green star oakland on Aug 15, 2008 9:16 AM PDT reply actions
Galt had fun at Marine World today...
he didn’t miss his parents or Kotsay.
Foolsh, the most insane regular poster on AN since oaktoon left - salb
by FoolshGame22 on Aug 16, 2008 1:41 AM PDT up reply actions
Super
More years of 15,000 attendance games and minimal payroll…I’m psyched
McGwire belongs in the Hall so put him there
by streetisclosedin08 on Aug 15, 2008 9:29 AM PDT reply actions
Yay mediocrity!
every winning streak ends with taking your underpants off. @('.')@
by Leopold Bloom on Aug 15, 2008 9:46 AM PDT up reply actions
im with you, this is not good news
i propose moving the A’s to Boston
by oakinboston on Aug 15, 2008 10:40 AM PDT up reply actions
I'm from Mass as well so I'm all for that move, Providence would be nice
McGwire belongs in the Hall so put him there
by streetisclosedin08 on Aug 15, 2008 10:42 AM PDT up reply actions
not a bad idea.
speaking of which, read this nice summary of the best cities out there for expansion teams:
http://www.bizofbaseball.com/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=2387&Itemid=1
sacramento is #8
(spoiler: basically concludes that no town is perfect at this point)
by oakinboston on Aug 15, 2008 10:45 AM PDT up reply actions
also also
i love this new firefox. i read this article at least a week ago, and all i had to do was type “expansion” in my tool bar, wait a few seconds, and it found it.
by oakinboston on Aug 15, 2008 10:48 AM PDT up reply actions
Hmm...No one would attend Red Sox games
12,000 at Fenway on a beautiful Thursday afternoon – I couldn’t stand it.
“Zi-iii-ggy!!! Zi-iii-ggy!!”
I like Cindi. A. She never pretends to know more than she does. B. She has unbridled enthusiasm for her "Hotties," and isn't afraid to show it. -IM4Oakgal
Perhaps he'll convene a task force
Arte didn't get much Home Run Derby. He was dug in too deep or moving too fast. His idea of great R&R was cold rice and a little rat meat.
by FreeSeatUpgrade on Aug 15, 2008 10:28 AM PDT reply actions
We can't do that without first checking with the
Committee on Convening Task Forces.
I like Cindi. A. She never pretends to know more than she does. B. She has unbridled enthusiasm for her "Hotties," and isn't afraid to show it. -IM4Oakgal
... while he's out of town receiving a lifetime achievement award at the Institute for Task Force Convention convention
There were a lot of stupid, long confusing words that I’m sure normal people don’t use. @('.')@
I don't really have much to say about this...
but it seemed somehow relevant.
"I'm going to take a camera crew and march into Billy Beane's office and demand to know why instituting his newfangled cost-saving measures means that the run manufacturing plant had to get shut down." FJM
I'll buy THAT for a dollar!
There were a lot of stupid, long confusing words that I’m sure normal people don’t use. @('.')@
I'll buy it...
only if it’s a velvet painting.
I am Ray Fosse's infatuations with Clay Wood and high-definition television.
by franks a lot on Aug 15, 2008 10:55 AM PDT up reply actions
I think this needs the word "chemical" added
There were a lot of stupid, long confusing words that I’m sure normal people don’t use. @('.')@
Chemical sex can wait?
"All your baserunner are belong to Greg Smith" ~ walk off bunt
by Philip Christy on Aug 15, 2008 11:11 AM PDT up reply actions
scary billboard!
No! Bad billboard! No!
(whacks billboard on snout with rolled up newspaper)
every winning streak ends with taking your underpants off. @('.')@
by Leopold Bloom on Aug 15, 2008 11:56 AM PDT up reply actions
Are they
trying to steer people away from careers in engineering?
"May a nit suck Cajun geese?" wonders Red. No, we see gnu Jack Cust in a yam.
I think it was put up by the pro-bullying-of-nerds lobby
There were a lot of stupid, long confusing words that I’m sure normal people don’t use. @('.')@
As is
“Here’s a good reason to beat on them!”?
every winning streak ends with taking your underpants off. @('.')@
by Leopold Bloom on Aug 15, 2008 12:30 PM PDT up reply actions
exactly my thought
I laughed for a minute looking at that. Then I thought what you thought.
The kid was probably told “We need your picture on a billboard about "school”. Sign this release…here…"
"I never predict anything, and I never will." Paul Gascoigne, English footballer
by One won lost won on Aug 15, 2008 4:42 PM PDT up reply actions
Clown College...classic episode
I am Ray Fosse's infatuations with Clay Wood and high-definition television.
by franks a lot on Aug 15, 2008 12:33 PM PDT up reply actions
The lesson from the episode
become a clown and survive a mafia hit
Green Hulk Fists
by oaklandSMASH on Aug 16, 2008 12:43 AM PDT up reply actions
Do people who make these campaigns know real kids?
what a stupid ad – it’s not like a kid is walking down the street and out pops a temptress giving them this choice.
Or that suddenly having sex will make you lose all interest in school & learning. arararg
by MobiusKlein on Aug 15, 2008 12:35 PM PDT up reply actions
I didn't get to the temptress...
I died on page 32 when I jumped in that hole the Fairie King forbade anyone to enter.
every winning streak ends with taking your underpants off. @('.')@
by Leopold Bloom on Aug 15, 2008 1:35 PM PDT up reply actions
Which way books
Man I miss those. My favorite was when I decided to have my lungs replaced with scuba gear so I could continue to live with the people under the sea.
That soumnds both costly and painful.
Huge sacrifice.
every winning streak ends with taking your underpants off. @('.')@
by Leopold Bloom on Aug 15, 2008 1:52 PM PDT up reply actions
Yeah this choice happens all the time
Studying for chem 101 final, or party at the playboy mansion? hmmm…
by asfansince1989 on Aug 15, 2008 4:44 PM PDT up reply actions
Are they trying to say
that engineers have a ton of sex or they get no sex? I might have to change majors
It could be that they get almost no sex
but what they do get weighs a ton.
"Camelot sure fell apart, didn't it?"-Steve McCatty
"Sex can wait...
…MASTER…" um, well…y’know…
Green Hulk Fists
by oaklandSMASH on Aug 16, 2008 12:42 AM PDT up reply actions
I believe the latest is
That the A’s only pick they might sign is Hunter. And personally I don’ t think they will.
"Loyal? I'm the most loyal player money can buy." - Don Sutton
Bobb is only back for 6 months
He’s not in Oakland under any official capacity. His firm is consulting the city on its budget crisis. Whether or not he chooses to stay beyond that is anyone’s guess. Rumor is he’s looking to run for mayor of Richmond, VA. He spent nearly a decade there and is looking to build a small ballpark and athletic complex for a TBD minor league team. Next year Bobb could run for mayor of Richmond, the office of which is being vacated by long-time friend Douglas Wilder.
Bob Loblaw?
every winning streak ends with taking your underpants off. @('.')@
by Leopold Bloom on Aug 15, 2008 11:41 AM PDT up reply actions
Why should YOU go to jail for a crime SOMEONE ELSE noticed?
every winning streak ends with taking your underpants off. @('.')@
by Leopold Bloom on Aug 15, 2008 2:02 PM PDT up reply actions
If he was hired for the duration of the, "budget crisis",
in Oakland, he may well have found a permanent niche.
"You may glory in a team triumphant, but you fall in love with a team in defeat."--The Boys of Summer
douglas wilder - the former guv?
so is Wilder pulling a Jerry Brown – going from guv to mayor? I didn’t know that was the trend these days.. Then again, Jerry made turtlenecks cool again for awhile.
by rollierollieOxenfree on Aug 17, 2008 1:49 AM PDT up reply actions
Thanks
Hopefully that $200k will go a long way towards resolution.
Stupid to cut him though
Since he’s better than the guy they’re replacing him with (and > .800 OPS vs. lefties).
"There's never enough time to do all the nothing you want" -Bill Watterson
I can't even really read it.
I usually like what she has to say, but it’s obvious to any A’s fan at least, the network does not have any of our best interest at heart—whether we’re in the race for the playoffs or not.
every winning streak ends with taking your underpants off. @('.')@
by Leopold Bloom on Aug 15, 2008 1:59 PM PDT up reply actions
Yep, and through the whole article about only representing the East Coast, the only team
she mentioned from the West Coast was the Angels. The article mentions the Yankees,and Red Sox predominately.
by theblackpearl on Aug 15, 2008 2:01 PM PDT up reply actions
I was one of those that wrote and complained, by the way.
Waaaaay back when we were still in contention.
every winning streak ends with taking your underpants off. @('.')@
by Leopold Bloom on Aug 15, 2008 2:07 PM PDT up reply actions
And I think it's unfortunate that she looks at it this year.
This season, I can understand a bias against the west coast since most of the teams aren’t very good. The problem is if you go back to years when this wasn’t the case, you will see the same thing.
It’s easy to say that we, or the Giants or Padres should get less coverage this year, while not going back just a short time to when we were winning a bunch, yet still getting the coveted “53 minutes past the hour” highlight spot on BBTN.
"Camelot sure fell apart, didn't it?"-Steve McCatty
Short version:
“No, it’s not an East Coast bias, it’s a ratings bias. And by the way, the teams that get ratings are the Yankees and Red Sox.”
"Dispatch knuckleheadedness with Bond-like aplomb." –74mk
I just wonder sometimes about cause and effect -
ESPN would argue they show the Yankees and Red Sox because that’s where the ratings are. You could also argue that if the media made more effort to highlight all 30 teams, and to promote the notion of “baseball” and “close races” and “seeing players you didn’t see just last week” as being inherently exciting, then viewer interest → ratings might be a lot higher elsewhere.
I like Cindi. A. She never pretends to know more than she does. B. She has unbridled enthusiasm for her "Hotties," and isn't afraid to show it. -IM4Oakgal
I was thinking the same thing
If the A’s get no coverage then there is no interest which justifies not having any coverage.
by Lafayette Scotsman on Aug 15, 2008 2:50 PM PDT up reply actions
I've thought the same about hockey
ESPN states that nobody watches hockey, so they limit news coverage (which primarily consists of fight lowlights, so it’s perpetuating archaic stereotypes that further alienates potential fans), people are less exposed to the sport, lose interest = nobody watches hockey. Now NHL games can be seen on VS., the station formerly know as “OLN”
by SwisherThresher on Aug 15, 2008 3:11 PM PDT up reply actions
and they really limited their coverage
once the NHL decided to not have their games on ESPN. Around the same time, ESPN/ABC/satan bought interest in Arena Football, and what sport suddenly became a lot more “relevant”? Arena football.
"Camelot sure fell apart, didn't it?"-Steve McCatty
I have the feeling
that very same connection bodes very well for both their expanded coverage of MMA and Dana White’s wallet.
every winning streak ends with taking your underpants off. @('.')@
by Leopold Bloom on Aug 15, 2008 3:48 PM PDT up reply actions
so much for the theory that the corporate overlords control content
as ESPN’s corporate overlord, the Disney Corp., based out of Burbank, CA, would seem to favor coverage of the LA teams.
by rollierollieOxenfree on Aug 17, 2008 1:55 AM PDT up reply actions
And they do keep trying with the WNBA
"There's never enough time to do all the nothing you want" -Bill Watterson
Stay at least 50 feet away from Travis Buck
Arte didn't get much Home Run Derby. He was dug in too deep or moving too fast. His idea of great R&R was cold rice and a little rat meat.
by FreeSeatUpgrade on Aug 15, 2008 3:01 PM PDT up reply actions
If you are on the 1st base line, you will be beaten down by the sun, until about 8:30.
by theblackpearl on Aug 15, 2008 3:12 PM PDT up reply actions
And if you are on the 3rd base line, you will be beated down by the Bloods.
Behind home plate belongs to the Crypts.
Oh, and stay at least 50 feet away from Travis Buck.
I like Cindi. A. She never pretends to know more than she does. B. She has unbridled enthusiasm for her "Hotties," and isn't afraid to show it. -IM4Oakgal
And if you are a Blood,
don’t worry so much about the Crypts—they’re old and feeble and easily defeatable.
And stay at least fifty feet away from Travis Buck.
every winning streak ends with taking your underpants off. @('.')@
by Leopold Bloom on Aug 15, 2008 3:45 PM PDT up reply actions
the crypts may be old
but watch out for their keeper.
He will keep you up all night telling bad jokes and introducing somewhat entertaining tales.
"Camelot sure fell apart, didn't it?"-Steve McCatty
And stay at least fifty feet away from Travis Buck.
In search of a new signature. Say something funny and you may see your comment here!
As well as 20 feet away from Dan Johnson -
and remember, 20 means 40.
I like Cindi. A. She never pretends to know more than she does. B. She has unbridled enthusiasm for her "Hotties," and isn't afraid to show it. -IM4Oakgal
The Bloods might want up in the Crypts
When they’re killed by the Crips.
I don’t feel so silly for “tampoline” now.
by thejd44 on Aug 15, 2008 3:51 PM PDT up reply actions
Kool...A's to make more history this year...
From Mr. Optimisim himself, Ray Ratto (way to spit on the Ziegler run to… :( )
(horror) story so far …The A’s, with their 4-21 record, are on a pace to shatter the worst post-All-Star break mark in baseball history, which goes back to 1933, the year of the first All-Star Game. They are on pace to finish 11-56, a .174 percentage. The rest of the field of screams, as follows:
Year Team W L PCT
1943 Philadelphia Athletics 15-61 .197
1935 Boston Braves 17-63 .213
1949 Washington Senators 17-62 .215
1962 New York Mets 17-61 .218
1975 Detroit Tigers 18-55 .247
2003 Detroit Tigers 18-52 .257
1939 St. Louis Browns 22-58 .275
1942 Philadelphia Phillies 21-55 .276
1954 Philadelphia Athletics 21-54 .280
[/quote]
"Twenty minutes," says Jack Sr. "Thank god for Billy Beane."
Standings wise...
Only 1.5 games in front of KC, 5 games in front of SF…..
[quote]
Team Win Loss Pct. GB
Oakland 55 65 .458 20.5
Pittsburgh 55 66 .455 21
Atlanta 55 66 .455 21
Cleveland 54 66 .450
Kansas City 54 67 .446 22
Cincinnati 54 68 .443 22.5
Colorado 54 69 .439 23
San Francisco 50 70 .417 25.5
San Diego 47 74 .388 29
Seattle 46 74 .383 29.5
Washington 44 78 .361 32.5
[/quote]
"Twenty minutes," says Jack Sr. "Thank god for Billy Beane."
by ST on Aug 15, 2008 3:13 PM PDT up reply actions
going for 1st overall pick next year?
other than the SDSU pitcher mentioned in another thread (and followed locally here in SD with intense passion), I haven’t seen who’s in next year’s possible draft class. At least we won’t have to make a contingency pick.
/optimism
by rollierollieOxenfree on Aug 17, 2008 1:58 AM PDT up reply actions
Go Team!
every winning streak ends with taking your underpants off. @('.')@
by Leopold Bloom on Aug 15, 2008 3:47 PM PDT up reply actions
Tampoline, not a sport, has two of the best names ever ever
Karen Cockburn and Dong Dong!
Some links with headlines that made me giggle:
http://www.acrobaticsports.com/detail.do?noArticle=2701&id_key=0
by thejd44 on Aug 15, 2008 3:45 PM PDT reply actions
Tampoline?
Is that when the results are interfered with by front-runners being giloolied, or is it when girls going through PMS jump up and down?
I like Cindi. A. She never pretends to know more than she does. B. She has unbridled enthusiasm for her "Hotties," and isn't afraid to show it. -IM4Oakgal
if it's the latter, does salb918 serve as an officiator?
There were a lot of stupid, long confusing words that I’m sure normal people don’t use. @('.')@
Would he make a good officiator?
I mean, he can get a bit short sometimes.
I like Cindi. A. She never pretends to know more than she does. B. She has unbridled enthusiasm for her "Hotties," and isn't afraid to show it. -IM4Oakgal
Cockburn and Dong going head-to-head
If only this was in fencing because the sword fighting jokes would take it over the top!
Green Hulk Fists
by oaklandSMASH on Aug 16, 2008 12:46 AM PDT up reply actions
"pup rally"
prior to tonights game in the parking lot. Reports are that the players wife’s will be there with their pets. Somebody NEEDS to go and take pictures :-) I would volunteer but I wouldn’t be able to make it in time.
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;- ) :- ) :-O : -> : -] : -}
I'd bring Poochini tonight, but
I don’t want to be banned permanently from the Coliseum.
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Can you have Emil Brown bring Poochini?
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by The Dogfather on Aug 15, 2008 4:45 PM PDT up reply actions
They wouldn't get along - Poochini likes walks
I like Cindi. A. She never pretends to know more than she does. B. She has unbridled enthusiasm for her "Hotties," and isn't afraid to show it. -IM4Oakgal
I thought Poochini likes the long ball?
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Bunny, ball-ball!
There were a lot of stupid, long confusing words that I’m sure normal people don’t use. @('.')@
everyone questions the Fremont project...
because it doesn’t have public transportation. Yet, no one questions Ron Dellums sincerity? Please… when he says he’s willing to do anything “within reason” to keep the A’s in Oakland, you’ve got to put it through the socialist translation machine: “I will do anything to keep the A’s in Oakland, as long as the A’s find the right site, pay for it, pay off the right City officials (including me), guarantee free luxury box access, in perpetuity, for all Oakland and Alameda County Officials who support it (after we’ve been paid, of course) and, guarantee that no mud-burrowing frogs will be decimated by the building of the new stadium.”
That is what Ron Dellums really means when he says “anything within reason.”
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yeah, no one questions Dellums' sincerity except the people who already questioned Dellums' sincerity
… questioning it, I might add, without unnecessary, insulting, and inaccurate McCarthyite tactics. Gotta letcha know, Foolsh, I’m flagging this and voting “strike.”
There were a lot of stupid, long confusing words that I’m sure normal people don’t use. @('.')@
vote, vote, vote!!!
as you will, of course. I’m all in favor of democracy? But, who did I insult? Dellums?
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by FoolshGame22 on Aug 15, 2008 11:38 PM PDT up reply actions
yes: it's the "socialist" canard, which you've been tossing with increased frequency
There were a lot of stupid, long confusing words that I’m sure normal people don’t use. @('.')@
But, that is neither an insult nor a canard...
Ron is proud of it:
Dellums was the first African American elected to Congress from Northern California and the first openly socialist Congressman since World War II.
Truth should be a defense to a CGV, shouldn’t it? Especially, when a politician’s ideology is gemane to the discussion.
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by FoolshGame22 on Aug 16, 2008 1:09 PM PDT up reply actions
In the 70s
http://www.citymayors.com/mayors/oakland-mayor.html
He certainly wasn’t elected mayor of Oakland as a member of a socialist party.
"There's never enough time to do all the nothing you want" -Bill Watterson
That just means he's a socialist, and not a Socialist.
"If I've got baggage, he's got a whole set of Louis Vuitton." ~ Milton Bradley on Barry Bonds
since you call everyone you disagree with a socialist, why should I expect it to be true?
And I’m not conceding it is, since (a) as nevermoor points out, it no longer is (if it ever was) and therefore ain’t germane, (b) from what I can tell, he was never a member of the Socialist party, © Democratic Socialism, especially in its American variant, with which he was “aligned” (if you believe the shaky sources that pop up in google), sure as shit ain’t the purebred variety that you expect people to take away by simply using the single “s” word.
What’s more, even if it is true, and Ron wears bright-red boxers, STFW? The way you formulated it, it’s not a germane discussion of the way his ideology impacts public policy as it touches on the issue of the stadium, but an ad hominem attack on his trustworthiness that would be exactly the same if instead of “socialist” you said “Democrat,” “Republican,” “black,” “white,” or “mayonnaise-eating.”
There were a lot of stupid, long confusing words that I’m sure normal people don’t use. @('.')@
I disagree with George W. Bush...
but, I don’t call him a socialist.
Whether you concede it or not does not make it any less true. Just because he didn’t run for the mayor of Oakland as a Socialist Party member doesn’t mean he’s not currently a socialist. Because he is… ask him, he’ll tell you. And, the DSA is, indeed, the purebred variety. Dellums was, in fact, an early member of the DSOC, founded by Michael Harrington, and one of the two merged entities that now make up the DSA, which is the principal American affiliate of the Socialist International. Basically, you can’t be any more socialist than that.
Perhaps my formulation was inartful in that it did not explicitly state that his ideology would never allow him to do anything (let alone within reason) to help keep the A’s in Oakland, but I thought that was sufficiently implied so that I didn’t have to spell it out. In fact, I’m quite confident that it will be an impediment, as he will concede no public money of any sort and, no doubt, insist on as many forms of taxation as he can conceive. As for his “trustworthiness,” I’ll leave that conclusion to his constituents, some of whom seem to have already drawn their own conclusions.
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by FoolshGame22 on Aug 16, 2008 10:49 PM PDT up reply actions
fair enough
I’ll trust you on the facts, but only because you’re not a socialist. :)
You need some new material, though, Foolsh. You might as well be calling Dellums a dirigible enthusiast.
There were a lot of stupid, long confusing words that I’m sure normal people don’t use. @('.')@
is he a dirigible enthusiast?
now, the recall movement really has some ammunition! LOL
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by FoolshGame22 on Aug 16, 2008 11:14 PM PDT up reply actions
I never met Dellums in the 70's...
but, we certainly associated with and were involved in campaigns for many of the same people and causes. I guess I’m just a flip-flopper.
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by FoolshGame22 on Aug 16, 2008 11:27 PM PDT up reply actions
Flagging this post
Is a strike against freedom of expression. I see plenty of cheap shots at the righties here, but a cheap shot at the lefties is voted as a strike. Can you say oppression?? This is so wrong as to be almost unfathomable. Voice your disagreement as you wish, but stay clear of censorship.
+1
I don’t see anybody complain when a southpaw throws at a righty’s knees around here. Should I flag every cheap shot as a CGV?
I generally bemoan the profusion of Mr Sabermetric Sporks in the Scrabble ranks who don't know the meaning or usage of 50% of the words they use. -monkeyball
Trust the system...
I don’t see it as a CGV so I won’t vote “strike”; another moderator (Monkeyball) did so he flagged it. Unless two other moderators agree, though, it won’t be a “strike” – and if two other moderators do agree then maybe there’s justification that I’m not (personally) seeing.
Less than half the flagged comments (about 40%) have resulted in “strikes” so clearly moderators are not being lemmings or a “good old boys network” (“if you think it’s a strike then I will too”). These things work themselves out pretty well, from what I’ve seen.
I like Cindi. A. She never pretends to know more than she does. B. She has unbridled enthusiasm for her "Hotties," and isn't afraid to show it. -IM4Oakgal
FWIW....I can't really see this as being a CGV.
I know politics is verboten, for good reason. But in Dellums case, he’s either mouthing platitudes as is to be expected from a pol of any stripe, or he is sincere…..which I tend to doubt. At any rate, his political position is germane to the content of the post, and directly affects the fortunes of the A’s.
All Foolsh did was point out past political positions which might be relevant to the A’s in their quest for a stadium. No big deal.
"You may glory in a team triumphant, but you fall in love with a team in defeat."--The Boys of Summer
except that Foolsh didn't use it in the way that later claimed to have
And he’s done it repeatedly, in all sorts of contexts, in the last month.
There were a lot of stupid, long confusing words that I’m sure normal people don’t use. @('.')@
but, in all fairness to me...
only in the context of the stadium and the socialists who control its fate.
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by FoolshGame22 on Aug 17, 2008 12:40 AM PDT up reply actions
Seriously?
Link me to any comment saying Bush = fascist and I bet monkeyball gave all of them his CGV vote.
Democrat = socialist is a stupid/offensive argument since it clearly isn’t true.
Republican = fascist is stupid/offensive for the same reason.
Freedom of expression (especially wrt politics) is not absolute on AN.
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by nevermoor on Aug 16, 2008 7:08 AM PDT up reply actions 1 recs
Specific political leanings aside...
…Dellums has never struck me as the kind that would favor spending huge amounts of public money for a stadium. Which doesn’t mean much, really, as I lean conservative and I don’t favor spending huge amounts of public money on stadiums, either.
"If I've got baggage, he's got a whole set of Louis Vuitton." ~ Milton Bradley on Barry Bonds
unless he's going to Keynesian-spend Oakland out of recession ...
… and then NATIONALIZE THE A’S1!!!!
There were a lot of stupid, long confusing words that I’m sure normal people don’t use. @('.')@
Nothing more than lip service at the moment, political pandering
I’d love to see the A’s stay in Oakland but not on the Coliseum site without a new stadium. I don’t think Wolff is going to settle for staying on the site anyway so something would need to pretty much come from nowhere if it’s going to work in Oakland. I’m hoping, but I’m not optimistic.
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scuttlebutt is that Wolff is on his way out...
there is discontent among A’s ownership. That’s not good for Fremont… nor for the A’s staying in the Bay Area.
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by FoolshGame22 on Aug 16, 2008 12:47 AM PDT up reply actions
I'm afraid I'm probably his citation for that
I certainly put the “butt” in scuttlebutt.
There were a lot of stupid, long confusing words that I’m sure normal people don’t use. @('.')@
no, a separate source...
who shall remain nameless. That’s why it’s “scuttlebutt” and not, as yet, breaking news.
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by FoolshGame22 on Aug 16, 2008 10:54 PM PDT up reply actions
I'm waiting to hear it from Franklin Tipton
There were a lot of stupid, long confusing words that I’m sure normal people don’t use. @('.')@
I sure won't rely on any of those commies for my news!
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by Buck Turgidson on Aug 16, 2008 11:17 PM PDT up reply actions
Well I guess that sort of sarcasm is not helpful
Seriously, I am offended by the red baiting. It’s overt and divisive in my opinion and should be a strike.
The threat that has been issued by the A’s ownership to move the team out of our City is political in nature, so politics enters the discussion. That is fine in my opinion. What I think goes against AN’s standards is the use of language by posters that is meant to marginalize the views of others in a way that sort of precludes any dialogue. It is bullying. This stuff has been the source of a great deal of suffering by people with unpopular view points in this country. The show trial and assasinations of Sacco and Vanzetti, black lists, loyalty oaths, etc. Foolshgame, you should have learned all this shit in public school. I did.
Ron Dellums is not a socialist in any way I can point to. He is not pushing a socialist agenda in Oakland. I wish he would and I think that might be the best thing for Oakland. But that really has nothing to do with a ballpark. No City in California is in a position to pony up money for a ballpark. Fremont isn’t. Oakland isn’t. Wolff could build a ballpark in Oakland if he wanted to. He has the money.
Foolshgame, I honestly think you have been out of line with this stuff and I think you should just agree to not do it anymore. And Nico, I really don’t get your position on this.
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by Buck Turgidson on Aug 16, 2008 11:42 PM PDT up reply actions
Not sure what you mean by "my position" but
to clarify it, I’m just suggesting that the system has enough people, who don’t all think alike, weighing in, that the complaint will get a fair assessment. If a bunch of moderators look at it and all don’t see it as a “strike” then that’s compelling, and if a bunch of moderators look at it and two others also see it as a “strike” then that’s compelling. That’s all I’m trying to say.
I like Cindi. A. She never pretends to know more than she does. B. She has unbridled enthusiasm for her "Hotties," and isn't afraid to show it. -IM4Oakgal
Ok, well it sounded like you were defending red baiting
You said you “won’t vote strike.” That sounded like a position.
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by Buck Turgidson on Aug 17, 2008 9:47 AM PDT up reply actions
I just didn't see that particular comment as "strike worthy" -
But I haven’t seen the alleged multiple similar ones referenced. Repetition can be a basis for a “strike” even if the given comment, posted only once, would not be.
I like Cindi. A. She never pretends to know more than she does. B. She has unbridled enthusiasm for her "Hotties," and isn't afraid to show it. -IM4Oakgal
Nothing "alleged" about it
http://www.athleticsnation.com/2008/7/31/583745/dld-7-31-08-fremont-in-flu#7805342
http://www.athleticsnation.com/2008/7/31/583745/dld-7-31-08-fremont-in-flu#7805223
http://www.athleticsnation.com/2008/7/17/573950/fresh-philly-cupcakes-thre#7467541
http://www.athleticsnation.com/2007/5/15/215111/567#675668
http://www.athleticsnation.com/2007/5/15/215111/567#675580
http://www.athleticsnation.com/2007/2/27/131253/077#629912
"There's never enough time to do all the nothing you want" -Bill Watterson
I wasn't doubting that the comments existed, just saying
I hadn’t seen them. Things that are alleged can also be true. It was very much alleged. As well as true.
I like Cindi. A. She never pretends to know more than she does. B. She has unbridled enthusiasm for her "Hotties," and isn't afraid to show it. -IM4Oakgal
So nobody flagged any of those comments before?
Foolsh has been called on this before in threads and he has yet to be repentent.
I don’t see how his comment above, which links graft to socialism, does anything but stand alone as divisive nonsense.
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by Buck Turgidson on Aug 17, 2008 5:28 PM PDT up reply actions
Correct - they have not been flagged before
I like Cindi. A. She never pretends to know more than she does. B. She has unbridled enthusiasm for her "Hotties," and isn't afraid to show it. -IM4Oakgal
Incorrect
What about this one:
http://www.athleticsnation.com/2008/7/17/573950/fresh-philly-cupcakes-thre#7467462
If the first comment of this sort doesn’t generate at least a warning and subsequent ones a strike, then it seems to me that the no politics and no trolling rules are completely pointless.
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I sit and lean back slighty corrected
I missed that one. Anyway, my point is that the repetition may warrant a “strike” even if the first one didn’t (which is probably why I didn’t vote for a “strike” back on July 17th). So if this one gets a “strike” or “warning” but the 7/17 comment didn’t, it doesn’t mean this one is necessarily “worse” – just that when a comment is borderline, pretty soon enough is enough even to moderators who weren’t compelled the first time.
I like Cindi. A. She never pretends to know more than she does. B. She has unbridled enthusiasm for her "Hotties," and isn't afraid to show it. -IM4Oakgal
if repetition is a crime...
I stand convicted. Maybe you should just give in and vote “strike.” If, however, what I said was “true” in the context of the discussion, maybe you shouldn’t. I’d be torn.
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by FoolshGame22 on Aug 18, 2008 1:32 AM PDT up reply actions
If you check the CGs, Foolsh,
you’ll see that repetition can be CGV-worthy when it’s negative, inflammatory, etc. (see example with Chavez).
“True” doesn’t have anything to do with it, as posting “The A’s offense is pathetic!!!!” 12 times in a game thread would be a CGV, while also being true.
As for “giving in” and issuing a strike/warning, well…you probably know by now how that played out…
I like Cindi. A. She never pretends to know more than she does. B. She has unbridled enthusiasm for her "Hotties," and isn't afraid to show it. -IM4Oakgal
within reason?
so Mr. Dellums, do tell, what is “within reason”? here’s a multiple choice answer sheet:
a) lease extension on the same concrete house-that-Davis-built.
b) new ballpark
thanks,
“A’s fan”
by rollierollieOxenfree on Aug 17, 2008 2:14 AM PDT reply actions
If Fremont fails, I think the A's stay in Oakland
or move to Sacramento, or San Jose (sure, everyone says the territorial rights will hold, which is the same kind of vote of confidence managers get a week before they’re fired).
Simply put, there’s nowhere good for a baseball team to move.
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