Open Thread: Game 120 - A's vs. Rays (Cont.)
The Streak is over. Brad Ziegler's scoreless start to his career is over at 39 innings.
But rather than dump him with the loss, the veteran Big Hurt, with a career that's spanned a tad longer than 39 innings, bailed him out with an RBI single in the 9th to tie things up. We go to the 10th, tied 5-5. Huston Street in.
Go A's!
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I dream of Fremont and rainbows
by OptimistPrime on Aug 14, 2008 4:04 PM PDT reply actions 2 recs
He's cosistent
/Joe Morgan
"However, at Elias, I think they keep track of the amount of sunflower seeds spit in a dugout each night." - Brad Ziegler, 8/7/08
on many sites "first" is bannable
keep doing it because i’m hoping AN will eventually adopt that policy.
A's v Giants "is kind of like the difference between going to see the Ramones and going to see the Bee Gees. A's fans will go see the Ramones." -BB 07/27/05
by xbhaskarx on Aug 14, 2008 4:14 PM PDT up reply actions 2 recs
+1
"If you hit .440 with 20 bombs, you don't have to do s---. You don't have to bring a glove to practice, just hit and leave whenever you want. You can bring a 40 and smoke a cigarette and call me from the parking lot asking me what time the game is, and I'll tell you. You can even say 'F--- you, Steve!' Actually, don't say that, that wouldn't be very nice." -Steve Friend, Head Coach, Chabot College Gladiators Baseball
turn it green
There were a lot of stupid, long confusing words that I’m sure normal people don’t use. @('.')@
How about "frist"?
I dream of Fremont and rainbows
by OptimistPrime on Aug 14, 2008 4:58 PM PDT up reply actions
So did good Huston
finally cut through the cords, escape the dungeon, and take his place back on the roster, replacing the evil twin that has been here the past month?
"Camelot sure fell apart, didn't it?"-Steve McCatty
I want this to be the shortest game thread ever.
End this now!
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Because it deserves mentioning twice
From May 11 to today, Ziggy gave up 0 runs in 47 2/3 innings in between AAA and the majors. He pitched in 36 straight games without allowing a run. If Frank hadn’t tied it up, the A’s would have broken my heart.
"Loyal? I'm the most loyal player money can buy." - Don Sutton
The A's haven't broken your heart yet?
"I'm telling you, I can't wait to put on that white uniform," Gonzalez said. "That will be the prettiest uniform I'll ever see."
Nope. It goes back to the technicality that he has to either finish the inning or leave with...
…nobody on base or anyone he’s responsible for not scoring.
So, it reverts back to the last full inning, his 39th.
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I believe you, but that really doesn't make any damn sense as far as record keeping goes
by thejd44 on Aug 14, 2008 4:10 PM PDT up reply actions
It does when you think about it more
It took him 39 1/3 innings before he allowed a run charged to him, yes, but that’s just not how this record is tracked. It’s based on completed appearances, basically. His line isn’t complete until the book on him for that game is closed.
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I wrote this elsewhere. A quick look at Ziegler's streak. He:
- demolished the record for scoreless innings to start a career (previous record: 25 innings by George McQuillan of the Phillies in 1907)
- set a new Oakland record (previous record: 37 innings by Mike Torrez in 1976)
- tied the mark for scoreless innings by a relief pitcher, with a caveat (record: 39 innings by Al Benton of the Indians in 1949, though he allowed runs during that stretch as a starter. J.C. Romero of the Twins had a streak of 36 innings as a reliever with the Twins in 2004)
- tied for second for scoreless innings by a rookie (Christy Mathewson also had 39 for the Giants in 1901, passed only by Grover Cleveland Alexander’s 41 innings with the Phillies in 1911)
Any way you look at it, this is a remarkable streak for anyone at any time. Coming to start a career is even more amazing.
Congratulations, Brad Ziegler!
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Offseason trade candidate?
...and the future is now!
by gio_is_the_future on Aug 14, 2008 4:11 PM PDT up reply actions
If Emil Brown homers here, he still can't hold Frank Thomas' jock. Ever.
by thejd44 on Aug 14, 2008 4:07 PM PDT reply actions
What if he really wanted to though?
I dream of Fremont and rainbows
by OptimistPrime on Aug 14, 2008 4:08 PM PDT up reply actions
He'd have to ask permission first
and promise to return it cleaner than when he picked it up.
"However, at Elias, I think they keep track of the amount of sunflower seeds spit in a dugout each night." - Brad Ziegler, 8/7/08
That'd be a good new job for DFA
official jock carrier…
"I was right and you were wrong." - Ray Fosse
I wouldn't trust him with that job
He might lose them in the lights.
by thejd44 on Aug 14, 2008 4:09 PM PDT up reply actions
We don't want DFA fumbling Big Hurts Jock
I dream of Fremont and rainbows
by OptimistPrime on Aug 14, 2008 4:10 PM PDT up reply actions
change the subject fast
"The two of them deserve each other. One's a born liar, the other's convicted."
Better than Larry Davis.
Some jokes require too much visualization.
"I'm disappointed Ziggy didn't pump his fist towards the sky 100 times and scream like a hooker." ~Nico.
as long as you're not
continuing the Emil-Frank jock joke any further
"The two of them deserve each other. One's a born liar, the other's convicted."
Atta way be Daric, don't take that bat off your shoulder
"I was right and you were wrong." - Ray Fosse
In what context and when did Ray Fosse say that
"The two of them deserve each other. One's a born liar, the other's convicted."
Is Barton going to be the savior?
God i hope so, and then rides that into a long time of getting hits
sources say no to long time of getting hits
"The two of them deserve each other. One's a born liar, the other's convicted."
OK, let's get a walk-off balk
"However, at Elias, I think they keep track of the amount of sunflower seeds spit in a dugout each night." - Brad Ziegler, 8/7/08
It's really amazing
how bad Cotroneo really is
"The two of them deserve each other. One's a born liar, the other's convicted."
It'd be a nice time for your first hit, Cliffy
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Good job Daric
...and the future is now!
by gio_is_the_future on Aug 14, 2008 4:17 PM PDT reply actions
Is there some special school where young A's are taught to take called third
strikes with two outs and the winning run in scoring position?
Yes
The Terrence Long School of Clutch Hitting
...and the future is now!
by gio_is_the_future on Aug 14, 2008 4:21 PM PDT up reply actions
And Derek "Man-Up" Lowe
:-D
"The two of them deserve each other. One's a born liar, the other's convicted."
Please tell me that wasn't a fastball down the middle
(At work)
...and the future is now!
by gio_is_the_future on Aug 14, 2008 4:20 PM PDT reply actions
Beane's failure to draft
qualtiy hitting as demonstrated by Cliff Pennington…who does not belong in the Major Leagues.
"The two of them deserve each other. One's a born liar, the other's convicted."
then again
neither does Daric Barton
"The two of them deserve each other. One's a born liar, the other's convicted."
cliff pennington: no power but at least he doesn’t strike out!
A's v Giants "is kind of like the difference between going to see the Ramones and going to see the Bee Gees. A's fans will go see the Ramones." -BB 07/27/05
i know you aren't serious.
"The two of them deserve each other. One's a born liar, the other's convicted."
Is this the part where they pull the infield in
and then get beat on a slapped single between 2nd and 3rd?
wtf he has an ERA under 3
A's v Giants "is kind of like the difference between going to see the Ramones and going to see the Bee Gees. A's fans will go see the Ramones." -BB 07/27/05
Considering he's pitched 34 innings
and didn’t allow a run for the first 17 of them, a 3+ ERA is kinda rough.
Ack.
I have a feeling this will not turn out well.
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Wild pitch bounced off the backstop right back to Suzuki
Bring back Hammer.
by OaktownPower on Aug 14, 2008 4:29 PM PDT up reply actions
Don't ask questions.
Just accept it and move on. :-)
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Casilla must have a four leaf clover, horse shoe and a rabbits foot
cramed up his ass to get out of that with no damage
must get mental image out of my mind
"However, at Elias, I think they keep track of the amount of sunflower seeds spit in a dugout each night." - Brad Ziegler, 8/7/08
forgive the late-comer
And it’s hard to argue when a guy gets on base, but why didn’t Geren send Patterson to pinch-hit?
Well, he didn't strike out.
UGH.
So, bring on Bonds! Or, not... then, bring back Langerhans!! -One won lost one
Awesome
Maybe the Rays will at least keep their lead in the AL East intact.
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Fire Cotroneo my god he sucks.
"The two of them deserve each other. One's a born liar, the other's convicted."
The A's are quick
No, it’s not a bobblehead yet.
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quick until it comes to Bobby Crosby
"The two of them deserve each other. One's a born liar, the other's convicted."
I think they really
got a lot of flak for not even advertising it on the scoreboard when he actually broke the record
"The two of them deserve each other. One's a born liar, the other's convicted."
I'll have to wait 'til I get home
before I can get hammered.
"However, at Elias, I think they keep track of the amount of sunflower seeds spit in a dugout each night." - Brad Ziegler, 8/7/08
Now I feel bad for picking on Ellis
Now he’s diving for balls? :-)
So, bring on Bonds! Or, not... then, bring back Langerhans!! -One won lost one
ballgame
no way our offense can come up with 2 runs
As long as the Washington Nationals keep playing ...
then the A’s aren’t the worst team in baseball.
just because the record is worse doesn't mean the A's aren't playing worse
although they SEEM to be turning it around
"The two of them deserve each other. One's a born liar, the other's convicted."
notice the A's scored 5 runs.
Please check the last time that happened and get back to me.
"The two of them deserve each other. One's a born liar, the other's convicted."
Cotroneo continues to paint a ridiculously muddled picture of the game.
so poor
"The two of them deserve each other. One's a born liar, the other's convicted."
If you're going to keep complaining about it, maybe you could elaborate.
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Maybe you should listen to the radio broadcast and let Cotroneo attempt to explain the game to you
"The two of them deserve each other. One's a born liar, the other's convicted."
not sure
looked like he could have made it, although he might have been freaked out, because the ball skipped out down the 1st base line…
"I was right and you were wrong." - Ray Fosse
Another pathetic loss.
Sorry, I can no longer be consoled by crumbs like the fact that we scored 5 runs for the first time in 14 games, or that a couple of pitchers and a couple of hitters look good. Thsi sucks. I get it, we’re rebuilding. Well, rebuilding sucks. I hope Lew is suffering 10x as us fans. Somehow, I doubt it.
Poop.
"If you lived in the now, you'd be home by now."
Anyone notice
Crosby’s 1.024 OPS this month WTF
"The two of them deserve each other. One's a born liar, the other's convicted."
haha still only 7 RBI's
"The two of them deserve each other. One's a born liar, the other's convicted."
last hope Daric Barton!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
"The two of them deserve each other. One's a born liar, the other's convicted."
Can't see the game on TV -
why didn’t Crosby get to second on the wild pitch?
Tough to tell....
Probably just not a good read/jump on it.
Bring back Hammer.
by OaktownPower on Aug 14, 2008 4:58 PM PDT up reply actions
He's an idiot
But the TB announcers haven’t so much as addressed it. It doesn’t raise thieri eyebrows even a tiny bit that Brown cruises easily into third while Crosby somehow stays behind for the GIDP
we have to lead the majors
in double plays the last 2 or 3 years. we hit into an absurd number of them
93 this year before today, 18th in the Majors. Washington is first with 120.
9th last season, 142. Seattle and St. Louis had 154.
1st in 2006 with 170. Toronto had 166.
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you were really curious weren't you
"The two of them deserve each other. One's a born liar, the other's convicted."
Sometimes I like to check when people bring things up.
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18th, not 1st? damn, the a’s even suck at hitting into double plays…
A's v Giants "is kind of like the difference between going to see the Ramones and going to see the Bee Gees. A's fans will go see the Ramones." -BB 07/27/05
Hard to do when you're not on base a whole lot to begin with
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Because Cotroneo is so good at calling games
"The two of them deserve each other. One's a born liar, the other's convicted."
Let's hope he looks better
then yesterday! Losing sucks! But let’s look at the bright side. The Rays lost a lot before this year, and look at them now. Trust the process…Trust the process..
by A'sfansince1970 on Aug 14, 2008 4:59 PM PDT reply actions
Who?
So, bring on Bonds! Or, not... then, bring back Langerhans!! -One won lost one
by baseballgirl on Aug 14, 2008 5:00 PM PDT up reply actions
haha I laugh at Pennington
he has been lifted for a PH like a gazillion times
"The two of them deserve each other. One's a born liar, the other's convicted."
TRADE ROB BOWEN!
for Mike Macfarland
"The two of them deserve each other. One's a born liar, the other's convicted."
Cliff got rejected.
"I'm going to take a camera crew and march into Billy Beane's office and demand to know why instituting his newfangled cost-saving measures means that the run manufacturing plant had to get shut down." FJM
Well...hmmmm..how bout that draft pick?
So, bring on Bonds! Or, not... then, bring back Langerhans!! -One won lost one
Oh well.
Let’s hope for better results tomorrow. It will be nice to see Swish.
by A'sfansince1970 on Aug 14, 2008 5:02 PM PDT reply actions
listened to the game on XM....
time to cancel the plan.
RIP 2008
The swinging (and missing) A's of 2008!!
Can I just say
that Crosby not going to second is what most people are looking at when they suggest some of the A’s have “quit”. Nobody thinks anyone has flat-out given up … but there’s no way in hell that all of the A’s are bustin’ their ass to win, either. That’s just lazy-ass, I don’t give a damn effort right there.
I needed a team so I wouldn’t turn into one of the eighty million pink hat-wearing Bud Light-drinking mulleted idiots at Fenway.
Will someone knows, pls 'splain me how ...
… Emil went to third on a WP, but Bobby didn’t advance to second on the same play? It became rather important.
The meaning of life is not so much 'found,' as it is 'made.' --Opus
Just looked he didnt get a jump or read on it...
And was too late when he did
Bring back Hammer.
by OaktownPower on Aug 14, 2008 5:15 PM PDT up reply actions
He has a chance to beat Eck's 0.61 ERA for relief pitchers with 50+ IP in a season.
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...by a married, 28-yo right-handed submariner with a daughter and a fragile noggin?
The meaning of life is not so much 'found,' as it is 'made.' --Opus
by The Dogfather on Aug 14, 2008 5:08 PM PDT up reply actions
At this point i have run out of ways to spin a loss so I will just say
thanks i’ve seen enough and I am going home
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