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Open Thread: Game 120 - A's vs. Rays (Cont.)

The Streak is over. Brad Ziegler's scoreless start to his career is over at 39 innings.

But rather than dump him with the loss, the veteran Big Hurt, with a career that's spanned a tad longer than 39 innings, bailed him out with an RBI single in the 9th to tie things up. We go to the 10th, tied 5-5. Huston Street in.

Go A's!

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"I was right and you were wrong." - Ray Fosse

by kbtoyz on Aug 14, 2008 4:04 PM PDT reply actions   0 recs

first

I dream of Fremont and rainbows

by OptimistPrime on Aug 14, 2008 4:04 PM PDT reply actions   2 recs

not quite

"I was right and you were wrong." - Ray Fosse

by kbtoyz on Aug 14, 2008 4:04 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

He's cosistent

/Joe Morgan

"However, at Elias, I think they keep track of the amount of sunflower seeds spit in a dugout each night." - Brad Ziegler, 8/7/08

by doctorK on Aug 14, 2008 4:13 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

on many sites "first" is bannable

keep doing it because i’m hoping AN will eventually adopt that policy.

A's v Giants "is kind of like the difference between going to see the Ramones and going to see the Bee Gees. A's fans will go see the Ramones." -BB 07/27/05

by xbhaskarx on Aug 14, 2008 4:14 PM PDT up reply actions   2 recs

+1

"If you hit .440 with 20 bombs, you don't have to do s---. You don't have to bring a glove to practice, just hit and leave whenever you want. You can bring a 40 and smoke a cigarette and call me from the parking lot asking me what time the game is, and I'll tell you. You can even say 'F--- you, Steve!' Actually, don't say that, that wouldn't be very nice." -Steve Friend, Head Coach, Chabot College Gladiators Baseball

by flipgatey3 on Aug 14, 2008 4:43 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

turn it green

There were a lot of stupid, long confusing words that I’m sure normal people don’t use. @('.')@

by monkeyball on Aug 14, 2008 4:46 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

jerk

"The two of them deserve each other. One's a born liar, the other's convicted."

by SwampyD on Aug 14, 2008 4:49 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

There were a lot of stupid, long confusing words that I’m sure normal people don’t use. @('.')@

by monkeyball on Aug 14, 2008 4:58 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

lolz

"The two of them deserve each other. One's a born liar, the other's convicted."

by SwampyD on Aug 14, 2008 4:59 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

How about "frist"?

I dream of Fremont and rainbows

by OptimistPrime on Aug 14, 2008 4:58 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

zero the hero!

"The two of them deserve each other. One's a born liar, the other's convicted."

by SwampyD on Aug 14, 2008 4:59 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Street looks much sharper the last 2 outings...

Definitely a visible difference.

Bring back Hammer.

by OaktownPower on Aug 14, 2008 4:04 PM PDT reply actions   0 recs

YAY Street.

Now its walk off time.

I see the future. I see cake.

by Blicks on Aug 14, 2008 4:04 PM PDT reply actions   0 recs

Huston didn't fail...yet.

Procrastinators unite....tomorrow

by muffinpryde on Aug 14, 2008 4:04 PM PDT reply actions   0 recs

Yay!

Thank you Huston

I dream of Fremont and rainbows

by OptimistPrime on Aug 14, 2008 4:05 PM PDT reply actions   0 recs

New thread mojo!

I have absolute confidence in you, Huston!

by Englishmajor on Aug 14, 2008 4:05 PM PDT reply actions   0 recs

Who was that just pitching?

I think he was wearing Street’s jersey.

Might as well Jump! - Van Halen

by sprtsnwyn on Aug 14, 2008 4:05 PM PDT reply actions   0 recs

So did good Huston

finally cut through the cords, escape the dungeon, and take his place back on the roster, replacing the evil twin that has been here the past month?

"Camelot sure fell apart, didn't it?"-Steve McCatty

by 5Aces on Aug 14, 2008 4:05 PM PDT reply actions   0 recs

Walk off time

Let’s go thomas
chavez
sweeney
swooney

somebody!

I dream of Fremont and rainbows

by OptimistPrime on Aug 14, 2008 4:05 PM PDT reply actions   0 recs

I want this to be the shortest game thread ever.

End this now!

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by louismg on Aug 14, 2008 4:06 PM PDT reply actions   0 recs

Because it deserves mentioning twice

From May 11 to today, Ziggy gave up 0 runs in 47 2/3 innings in between AAA and the majors. He pitched in 36 straight games without allowing a run. If Frank hadn’t tied it up, the A’s would have broken my heart.

"Loyal? I'm the most loyal player money can buy." - Don Sutton

by vignette17 on Aug 14, 2008 4:06 PM PDT reply actions   0 recs

The A's haven't broken your heart yet?

"I'm telling you, I can't wait to put on that white uniform," Gonzalez said. "That will be the prettiest uniform I'll ever see."

by pam5981 on Aug 14, 2008 4:07 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

yes it was

"I was right and you were wrong." - Ray Fosse

by kbtoyz on Aug 14, 2008 4:07 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Nope. It goes back to the technicality that he has to either finish the inning or leave with...

…nobody on base or anyone he’s responsible for not scoring.

So, it reverts back to the last full inning, his 39th.

Last of the Ninth - Photography Site / jamesvenes.com - Blog

by Flashfire on Aug 14, 2008 4:07 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

It does when you think about it more

It took him 39 1/3 innings before he allowed a run charged to him, yes, but that’s just not how this record is tracked. It’s based on completed appearances, basically. His line isn’t complete until the book on him for that game is closed.

Last of the Ninth - Photography Site / jamesvenes.com - Blog

by Flashfire on Aug 14, 2008 4:13 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Short thread mojo!!!!!

I dream of Fremont and rainbows

by OptimistPrime on Aug 14, 2008 4:06 PM PDT reply actions   0 recs

I wrote this elsewhere. A quick look at Ziegler's streak. He:
  • demolished the record for scoreless innings to start a career (previous record: 25 innings by George McQuillan of the Phillies in 1907)
  • set a new Oakland record (previous record: 37 innings by Mike Torrez in 1976)
  • tied the mark for scoreless innings by a relief pitcher, with a caveat (record: 39 innings by Al Benton of the Indians in 1949, though he allowed runs during that stretch as a starter. J.C. Romero of the Twins had a streak of 36 innings as a reliever with the Twins in 2004)
  • tied for second for scoreless innings by a rookie (Christy Mathewson also had 39 for the Giants in 1901, passed only by Grover Cleveland Alexander’s 41 innings with the Phillies in 1911)

Any way you look at it, this is a remarkable streak for anyone at any time. Coming to start a career is even more amazing.

Congratulations, Brad Ziegler!

Last of the Ninth - Photography Site / jamesvenes.com - Blog

by Flashfire on Aug 14, 2008 4:07 PM PDT reply actions   0 recs

He'd have to ask permission first

and promise to return it cleaner than when he picked it up.

"However, at Elias, I think they keep track of the amount of sunflower seeds spit in a dugout each night." - Brad Ziegler, 8/7/08

by doctorK on Aug 14, 2008 4:09 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

That'd be a good new job for DFA

official jock carrier…

"I was right and you were wrong." - Ray Fosse

by kbtoyz on Aug 14, 2008 4:09 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

I wouldn't trust him with that job

He might lose them in the lights.

by thejd44 on Aug 14, 2008 4:09 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

change the subject fast

"The two of them deserve each other. One's a born liar, the other's convicted."

by SwampyD on Aug 14, 2008 4:12 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Better than Larry Davis.

Some jokes require too much visualization.

"I'm disappointed Ziggy didn't pump his fist towards the sky 100 times and scream like a hooker." ~Nico.

by LAXile on Aug 14, 2008 4:12 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

D
O

N
O
T

W
A
N
T

"However, at Elias, I think they keep track of the amount of sunflower seeds spit in a dugout each night." - Brad Ziegler, 8/7/08

by doctorK on Aug 14, 2008 4:12 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Woo hoo time!

I dream of Fremont and rainbows

by OptimistPrime on Aug 14, 2008 4:11 PM PDT reply actions   0 recs

It's all up to Dale

"Camelot sure fell apart, didn't it?"-Steve McCatty

by 5Aces on Aug 14, 2008 4:12 PM PDT reply actions   0 recs

got to love that .209

"I was right and you were wrong." - Ray Fosse

by kbtoyz on Aug 14, 2008 4:13 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Be still my beating heart

I dream of Fremont and rainbows

by OptimistPrime on Aug 14, 2008 4:13 PM PDT reply actions   0 recs

as long as you're not

continuing the Emil-Frank jock joke any further

"The two of them deserve each other. One's a born liar, the other's convicted."

by SwampyD on Aug 14, 2008 4:14 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Atta way be Daric, don't take that bat off your shoulder

"I was right and you were wrong." - Ray Fosse

by kbtoyz on Aug 14, 2008 4:14 PM PDT reply actions   0 recs

In what context and when did Ray Fosse say that

"The two of them deserve each other. One's a born liar, the other's convicted."

by SwampyD on Aug 14, 2008 4:15 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Is Barton going to be the savior?

God i hope so, and then rides that into a long time of getting hits

by A'sfaninNC on Aug 14, 2008 4:15 PM PDT reply actions   0 recs

sources say no to long time of getting hits

"The two of them deserve each other. One's a born liar, the other's convicted."

by SwampyD on Aug 14, 2008 4:15 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

OK, let's get a walk-off balk

"However, at Elias, I think they keep track of the amount of sunflower seeds spit in a dugout each night." - Brad Ziegler, 8/7/08

by doctorK on Aug 14, 2008 4:16 PM PDT reply actions   0 recs

It's really amazing

how bad Cotroneo really is

"The two of them deserve each other. One's a born liar, the other's convicted."

by SwampyD on Aug 14, 2008 4:16 PM PDT reply actions   0 recs

Good job Daric

...and the future is now!

by gio_is_the_future on Aug 14, 2008 4:17 PM PDT reply actions   0 recs

Ouch.

Photography page | Flickr

by Kimberly on Aug 14, 2008 4:18 PM PDT reply actions   0 recs

Ouch. Just ouch.

I see the future. I see cake.

by Blicks on Aug 14, 2008 4:19 PM PDT reply actions   0 recs

Is there some special school where young A's are taught to take called third

strikes with two outs and the winning run in scoring position?

by solotar on Aug 14, 2008 4:20 PM PDT reply actions   0 recs

Yes

The Terrence Long School of Clutch Hitting

...and the future is now!

by gio_is_the_future on Aug 14, 2008 4:21 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Co-operated

by Adam Melhuse.

Procrastinators unite....tomorrow

by muffinpryde on Aug 14, 2008 4:28 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

And Derek "Man-Up" Lowe

:-D

"The two of them deserve each other. One's a born liar, the other's convicted."

by SwampyD on Aug 14, 2008 4:50 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Welcome Rook

You’ll fit right in.

by Eggman on Aug 14, 2008 4:20 PM PDT reply actions   0 recs

Beane's failure to draft

qualtiy hitting as demonstrated by Cliff Pennington…who does not belong in the Major Leagues.

"The two of them deserve each other. One's a born liar, the other's convicted."

by SwampyD on Aug 14, 2008 4:21 PM PDT reply actions   0 recs

then again

neither does Daric Barton

"The two of them deserve each other. One's a born liar, the other's convicted."

by SwampyD on Aug 14, 2008 4:21 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

or about 4-5 other names but

Ill be nice and not mention them

by A'sfaninNC on Aug 14, 2008 4:22 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

cliff pennington: no power but at least he doesn’t strike out!

A's v Giants "is kind of like the difference between going to see the Ramones and going to see the Bee Gees. A's fans will go see the Ramones." -BB 07/27/05

by xbhaskarx on Aug 14, 2008 4:22 PM PDT reply actions   0 recs

i know you aren't serious.

"The two of them deserve each other. One's a born liar, the other's convicted."

by SwampyD on Aug 14, 2008 4:46 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Is this the part where they pull the infield in

and then get beat on a slapped single between 2nd and 3rd?

by mikev on Aug 14, 2008 4:25 PM PDT reply actions   0 recs

wtf he has an ERA under 3

A's v Giants "is kind of like the difference between going to see the Ramones and going to see the Bee Gees. A's fans will go see the Ramones." -BB 07/27/05

by xbhaskarx on Aug 14, 2008 4:28 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Considering he's pitched 34 innings

and didn’t allow a run for the first 17 of them, a 3+ ERA is kinda rough.

by mikev on Aug 14, 2008 4:30 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Ack.

I have a feeling this will not turn out well.

More than just ANtics: http://www.louisgray.com/live/

by louismg on Aug 14, 2008 4:27 PM PDT reply actions   0 recs

WOW.

Was not expecting to get out of that.

Photography page | Flickr

by Kimberly on Aug 14, 2008 4:29 PM PDT reply actions   0 recs

Don't ask questions.

Just accept it and move on. :-)

More than just ANtics: http://www.louisgray.com/live/

by louismg on Aug 14, 2008 4:30 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

must get mental image out of my mind

"However, at Elias, I think they keep track of the amount of sunflower seeds spit in a dugout each night." - Brad Ziegler, 8/7/08

by doctorK on Aug 14, 2008 4:31 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

pinch running pays off again

proof positive it is always a good move

by Future Ed on Aug 14, 2008 4:36 PM PDT reply actions   0 recs

That’s like writing “Dear Ozzman: Don’t ask stupid questions”

by ozzman99 on Aug 14, 2008 4:39 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Well, he didn't strike out.

UGH.

So, bring on Bonds! Or, not... then, bring back Langerhans!! -One won lost one

by baseballgirl on Aug 14, 2008 4:40 PM PDT reply actions   0 recs

Awesome

Maybe the Rays will at least keep their lead in the AL East intact.

Last of the Ninth - Photography Site / jamesvenes.com - Blog

by Flashfire on Aug 14, 2008 4:42 PM PDT reply actions   0 recs

Fire Cotroneo my god he sucks.

"The two of them deserve each other. One's a born liar, the other's convicted."

by SwampyD on Aug 14, 2008 4:42 PM PDT reply actions   0 recs

The A's are quick

A Ziegler promotion.

No, it’s not a bobblehead yet.

Last of the Ninth - Photography Site / jamesvenes.com - Blog

by Flashfire on Aug 14, 2008 4:43 PM PDT reply actions   0 recs

quick until it comes to Bobby Crosby

"The two of them deserve each other. One's a born liar, the other's convicted."

by SwampyD on Aug 14, 2008 4:46 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

I think they really

got a lot of flak for not even advertising it on the scoreboard when he actually broke the record

"The two of them deserve each other. One's a born liar, the other's convicted."

by SwampyD on Aug 14, 2008 4:47 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

I'll have to wait 'til I get home

before I can get hammered.

"However, at Elias, I think they keep track of the amount of sunflower seeds spit in a dugout each night." - Brad Ziegler, 8/7/08

by doctorK on Aug 14, 2008 4:45 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

lolz

"The two of them deserve each other. One's a born liar, the other's convicted."

by SwampyD on Aug 14, 2008 4:47 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Now I feel bad for picking on Ellis

Now he’s diving for balls? :-)

So, bring on Bonds! Or, not... then, bring back Langerhans!! -One won lost one

by baseballgirl on Aug 14, 2008 4:47 PM PDT reply actions   0 recs

ballgame

no way our offense can come up with 2 runs

by guy incognito on Aug 14, 2008 4:47 PM PDT reply actions   0 recs

As long as the Washington Nationals keep playing ...

then the A’s aren’t the worst team in baseball.

by solotar on Aug 14, 2008 4:48 PM PDT reply actions   0 recs

just because the record is worse doesn't mean the A's aren't playing worse

although they SEEM to be turning it around

"The two of them deserve each other. One's a born liar, the other's convicted."

by SwampyD on Aug 14, 2008 4:49 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

notice the A's scored 5 runs.

Please check the last time that happened and get back to me.

"The two of them deserve each other. One's a born liar, the other's convicted."

by SwampyD on Aug 14, 2008 4:51 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

TRADE JOE BLANTON

"The two of them deserve each other. One's a born liar, the other's convicted."

by SwampyD on Aug 14, 2008 4:51 PM PDT reply actions   0 recs

Yay, Crosby

GO KURT!!

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by Kimberly on Aug 14, 2008 4:52 PM PDT reply actions   0 recs

not sure

looked like he could have made it, although he might have been freaked out, because the ball skipped out down the 1st base line…

"I was right and you were wrong." - Ray Fosse

by kbtoyz on Aug 14, 2008 4:57 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Another pathetic loss.

Sorry, I can no longer be consoled by crumbs like the fact that we scored 5 runs for the first time in 14 games, or that a couple of pitchers and a couple of hitters look good. Thsi sucks. I get it, we’re rebuilding. Well, rebuilding sucks. I hope Lew is suffering 10x as us fans. Somehow, I doubt it.

Poop.

"If you lived in the now, you'd be home by now."

by McFood on Aug 14, 2008 4:56 PM PDT reply actions   0 recs

Ugggggh

Bring back Hammer.

by OaktownPower on Aug 14, 2008 4:56 PM PDT reply actions   0 recs

Anyone notice

Crosby’s 1.024 OPS this month WTF

"The two of them deserve each other. One's a born liar, the other's convicted."

by SwampyD on Aug 14, 2008 4:56 PM PDT reply actions   0 recs

haha still only 7 RBI's

"The two of them deserve each other. One's a born liar, the other's convicted."

by SwampyD on Aug 14, 2008 4:57 PM PDT reply actions   0 recs

last hope Daric Barton!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

"The two of them deserve each other. One's a born liar, the other's convicted."

by SwampyD on Aug 14, 2008 4:57 PM PDT reply actions   0 recs

Can't see the game on TV -

why didn’t Crosby get to second on the wild pitch?

by solotar on Aug 14, 2008 4:57 PM PDT reply actions   0 recs

Tough to tell....

Probably just not a good read/jump on it.

Bring back Hammer.

by OaktownPower on Aug 14, 2008 4:58 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

He's an idiot

But the TB announcers haven’t so much as addressed it. It doesn’t raise thieri eyebrows even a tiny bit that Brown cruises easily into third while Crosby somehow stays behind for the GIDP

by Faust on Aug 14, 2008 5:00 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

we have to lead the majors

in double plays the last 2 or 3 years. we hit into an absurd number of them

by guy incognito on Aug 14, 2008 4:58 PM PDT reply actions   0 recs

93 this year before today, 18th in the Majors. Washington is first with 120.

9th last season, 142. Seattle and St. Louis had 154.
1st in 2006 with 170. Toronto had 166.

Last of the Ninth - Photography Site / jamesvenes.com - Blog

by Flashfire on Aug 14, 2008 5:02 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

you were really curious weren't you

"The two of them deserve each other. One's a born liar, the other's convicted."

by SwampyD on Aug 14, 2008 5:02 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

18th, not 1st? damn, the a’s even suck at hitting into double plays…

A's v Giants "is kind of like the difference between going to see the Ramones and going to see the Bee Gees. A's fans will go see the Ramones." -BB 07/27/05

by xbhaskarx on Aug 14, 2008 5:18 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Because Cotroneo is so good at calling games

"The two of them deserve each other. One's a born liar, the other's convicted."

by SwampyD on Aug 14, 2008 4:58 PM PDT reply actions   0 recs

Let's hope he looks better

then yesterday! Losing sucks! But let’s look at the bright side. The Rays lost a lot before this year, and look at them now. Trust the process…Trust the process..

by A'sfansince1970 on Aug 14, 2008 4:59 PM PDT reply actions   0 recs

HBP, runner on!

"I was right and you were wrong." - Ray Fosse

by kbtoyz on Aug 14, 2008 4:59 PM PDT reply actions   0 recs

Rob Bowen....hero?

"I was right and you were wrong." - Ray Fosse

by kbtoyz on Aug 14, 2008 4:59 PM PDT reply actions   0 recs

Who?

So, bring on Bonds! Or, not... then, bring back Langerhans!! -One won lost one

by baseballgirl on Aug 14, 2008 5:00 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Rob Bowen

Urban Legend

I dream of Fremont and rainbows

by OptimistPrime on Aug 14, 2008 5:00 PM PDT reply actions   0 recs

haha I laugh at Pennington

he has been lifted for a PH like a gazillion times

"The two of them deserve each other. One's a born liar, the other's convicted."

by SwampyD on Aug 14, 2008 5:01 PM PDT reply actions   0 recs

TRADE ROB BOWEN!

for Mike Macfarland

"The two of them deserve each other. One's a born liar, the other's convicted."

by SwampyD on Aug 14, 2008 5:02 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Poop

"I was right and you were wrong." - Ray Fosse

by kbtoyz on Aug 14, 2008 5:01 PM PDT reply actions   0 recs

Over

Bring back Hammer.

by OaktownPower on Aug 14, 2008 5:01 PM PDT reply actions   0 recs

Cliff got rejected.

"I'm going to take a camera crew and march into Billy Beane's office and demand to know why instituting his newfangled cost-saving measures means that the run manufacturing plant had to get shut down." FJM

by Elvez on Aug 14, 2008 5:01 PM PDT reply actions   0 recs

Well...hmmmm..how bout that draft pick?

So, bring on Bonds! Or, not... then, bring back Langerhans!! -One won lost one

by baseballgirl on Aug 14, 2008 5:02 PM PDT reply actions   0 recs

last

I dream of Fremont and rainbows

by OptimistPrime on Aug 14, 2008 5:02 PM PDT reply actions   0 recs

Oh well.

Let’s hope for better results tomorrow. It will be nice to see Swish.

by A'sfansince1970 on Aug 14, 2008 5:02 PM PDT reply actions   0 recs

over and out!

"The two of them deserve each other. One's a born liar, the other's convicted."

by SwampyD on Aug 14, 2008 5:03 PM PDT reply actions   0 recs

listened to the game on XM....

time to cancel the plan.
RIP 2008

The swinging (and missing) A's of 2008!!

by OakFaninFL on Aug 14, 2008 5:04 PM PDT reply actions   0 recs

Can I just say

that Crosby not going to second is what most people are looking at when they suggest some of the A’s have “quit”. Nobody thinks anyone has flat-out given up … but there’s no way in hell that all of the A’s are bustin’ their ass to win, either. That’s just lazy-ass, I don’t give a damn effort right there.

I needed a team so I wouldn’t turn into one of the eighty million pink hat-wearing Bud Light-drinking mulleted idiots at Fenway.

by Vacafan on Aug 14, 2008 5:05 PM PDT reply actions   0 recs

Will someone knows, pls 'splain me how ...

… Emil went to third on a WP, but Bobby didn’t advance to second on the same play? It became rather important.

The meaning of life is not so much 'found,' as it is 'made.' --Opus

by The Dogfather on Aug 14, 2008 5:06 PM PDT reply actions   0 recs

he is playing himself right out of OAK....

and i am glad.

The swinging (and missing) A's of 2008!!

by OakFaninFL on Aug 14, 2008 5:07 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Just looked he didnt get a jump or read on it...

And was too late when he did

Bring back Hammer.

by OaktownPower on Aug 14, 2008 5:15 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Because Crosby svcks???

I see the future. I see cake.

by Blicks on Aug 14, 2008 5:24 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

hm

so is Ziggy’s .23 era some sort of record as well? lowest non-zero era?

by oakinboston on Aug 14, 2008 5:06 PM PDT reply actions   0 recs

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