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Open Thread: Game 120 - A's vs. Rays (Cont.)

"It was the best of times, it was the blurst of times"?! you stupid monkey!

-- Montgomery Burns, Last Exit to SpringField

Two batters into this contest, the A's had a 2-0 lead, courtesy of a Mark Ellis triple and Carlos Gonzalez home run. And the next inning, they piled on, adding two more, after the Rays had answered to tie it up. That's right! 4 whole runs in 2 innings!

But the game went on, and the A's pitching got worse. Gallagher walked four and threw more than 90 pitches in 4 innings of work, and Dan Meyer, who followed, walked three in less than an inning, letting the Rays tie it up at 4-4.

Meanwhile, at bat, the A's love leaving the bases  loaded. Today's goat? Emil Brown. And Alan Embree is pulling a "mini-Ziggy", going 1 1/3 scoreless innings. On to the bottom of the sixth! Go A's!

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roomy.

every winning streak ends with taking your underpants off. @('.')@

by Leopold Bloom on Aug 14, 2008 2:41 PM PDT reply actions   0 recs

thanks louis

This is so fun, just dripping with love and good times

"Not in your wildest alcoholic nightmare would you ever imagine such events unfolding!" Bill King

by Buck Turgidson on Aug 14, 2008 2:41 PM PDT reply actions   0 recs

I like the love and good times

Not to mention the frustration and the annoyances that come with being an A’s fan.

More than just ANtics: http://www.louisgray.com/live/

by louismg on Aug 14, 2008 2:46 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

I live in hell.

every winning streak ends with taking your underpants off. @('.')@

by Leopold Bloom on Aug 14, 2008 2:42 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

teevee people

is chad’s moostace as awesome now as it is on his gameday picture?

by Future Ed on Aug 14, 2008 2:42 PM PDT reply actions   0 recs

Ballsy play

I dream of Fremont and rainbows

by OptimistPrime on Aug 14, 2008 2:42 PM PDT reply actions   0 recs

His chloroplasts are better now

I am Ray Fosse's infatuations with Clay Wood and high-definition television.

by franks a lot on Aug 14, 2008 2:43 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

he's part plant?

Actually, that does explain a lot…

every winning streak ends with taking your underpants off. @('.')@

by Leopold Bloom on Aug 14, 2008 2:44 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Sorta Swamp Thing-like

I am Ray Fosse's infatuations with Clay Wood and high-definition television.

by franks a lot on Aug 14, 2008 2:45 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

I could see that.

Florida’s the perfect place for it/him/it.

every winning streak ends with taking your underpants off. @('.')@

by Leopold Bloom on Aug 14, 2008 2:45 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

He's like the Harden of outfielders.

On the other hand, you have different fingers.

by Streams Of Whiskey on Aug 14, 2008 2:43 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

+1

Beating LAA or wherever the fu*k they are, Priceless!

by MMunoz33 on Aug 14, 2008 2:44 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Eh, except I think Harden can be the best pitcher in baseball

I never thought Baldelli would be more than pretty good.

by thejd44 on Aug 14, 2008 2:44 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

I was listening earlier when Barton doubled

Right before that I was thinking, hmm this Shields kid is a damn good pithcher…

"Not in your wildest alcoholic nightmare would you ever imagine such events unfolding!" Bill King

by Buck Turgidson on Aug 14, 2008 2:44 PM PDT reply actions   0 recs

start thinking more thoughts like that.

Now.

every winning streak ends with taking your underpants off. @('.')@

by Leopold Bloom on Aug 14, 2008 2:46 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Oh, well I'll have to put my aluminum hat back on

"Not in your wildest alcoholic nightmare would you ever imagine such events unfolding!" Bill King

by Buck Turgidson on Aug 14, 2008 2:47 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

please do.

every winning streak ends with taking your underpants off. @('.')@

by Leopold Bloom on Aug 14, 2008 2:49 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Done

But I’m out of milwaukee’s best

"Not in your wildest alcoholic nightmare would you ever imagine such events unfolding!" Bill King

by Buck Turgidson on Aug 14, 2008 2:51 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Disturbing.

Do you have any hard liquor in the house, or perhaps cooking sherry, NyQuil or Listerine?

every winning streak ends with taking your underpants off. @('.')@

by Leopold Bloom on Aug 14, 2008 2:53 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

ooh, forgot about the Sherry

Too bad I don’t live in Fla, I could hop on the mower and get down to the store

"Not in your wildest alcoholic nightmare would you ever imagine such events unfolding!" Bill King

by Buck Turgidson on Aug 14, 2008 2:55 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

or just strap the grandkid to the roof.

every winning streak ends with taking your underpants off. @('.')@

by Leopold Bloom on Aug 14, 2008 2:56 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Anyone else notice that whenever anything really bad or

white-trashy happens, it’s in Florida?

Was anyone else surprised the guy bathing at the BK was in Ohio and not Florida?

every winning streak ends with taking your underpants off. @('.')@

by Leopold Bloom on Aug 14, 2008 2:57 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Having emerged from my mine shaft I have noticed

"Not in your wildest alcoholic nightmare would you ever imagine such events unfolding!" Bill King

by Buck Turgidson on Aug 14, 2008 2:58 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

That would be a good distraction

I could slip away while CPS is interviewing the kid

"Not in your wildest alcoholic nightmare would you ever imagine such events unfolding!" Bill King

by Buck Turgidson on Aug 14, 2008 2:57 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Why does Hannahan make the Rays announcer think of Slap Shot?

He doesn’t know how to say or spell the name, does he?

by thejd44 on Aug 14, 2008 2:45 PM PDT reply actions   0 recs

No he doesn't

Beating LAA or wherever the fu*k they are, Priceless!

by MMunoz33 on Aug 14, 2008 2:46 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Hannahan

Every opposing team’s MVP

I hate unproductive outs and the A's are producing them at record production

by Trainman on Aug 14, 2008 2:47 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Who has more hits?

Jack Hannahan or Dexy’s Midnight RUnners?

by EddieVegas_NRAF on Aug 14, 2008 2:48 PM PDT reply actions   0 recs

Come on...

every winning streak ends with taking your underpants off. @('.')@

by Leopold Bloom on Aug 14, 2008 2:49 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

8 BB to 31 K's is a pretty good ratio for Joey

So, bring on Bonds! Or, not... then, bring back Langerhans!! -One won lost one

by baseballgirl on Aug 14, 2008 2:49 PM PDT reply actions   0 recs

Practically Devine.

More than just ANtics: http://www.louisgray.com/live/

by louismg on Aug 14, 2008 2:52 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

make that 9bb

I dream of Fremont and rainbows

by OptimistPrime on Aug 14, 2008 2:52 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Definitely

DMR

every winning streak ends with taking your underpants off. @('.')@

by Leopold Bloom on Aug 14, 2008 2:50 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

We didn't get Tuesday's night game, though.

every winning streak ends with taking your underpants off. @('.')@

by Leopold Bloom on Aug 14, 2008 2:50 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

QOTM simpsons reference division?

A's v Giants "is kind of like the difference between going to see the Ramones and going to see the Bee Gees. A's fans will go see the Ramones." -BB 07/27/05

by xbhaskarx on Aug 14, 2008 2:58 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

So blurst of times didn't do it for you?

Great image.

More than just ANtics: http://www.louisgray.com/live/

by louismg on Aug 14, 2008 2:59 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

You know, Devine sorta looks like he could swing a bat

I mean he sorta has the face and all. They should definitely let him try

"Not in your wildest alcoholic nightmare would you ever imagine such events unfolding!" Bill King

by Buck Turgidson on Aug 14, 2008 2:50 PM PDT reply actions   0 recs

And Bobby Crosby looks like a shortstop.

Looks are deceiving.

every winning streak ends with taking your underpants off. @('.')@

by Leopold Bloom on Aug 14, 2008 2:51 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

L.O.L.

I dream of Fremont and rainbows

by OptimistPrime on Aug 14, 2008 2:52 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

You mean you guys on AN think Crosby

is a pretender?

I thought AN loved this guy!!!!!

Beating LAA or wherever the fu*k they are, Priceless!

by MMunoz33 on Aug 14, 2008 2:52 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Can't speak for anyone else,

but BC’s my identified problem.

every winning streak ends with taking your underpants off. @('.')@

by Leopold Bloom on Aug 14, 2008 2:53 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

I hate the guy!!!

Beating LAA or wherever the fu*k they are, Priceless!

by MMunoz33 on Aug 14, 2008 2:54 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Please...AN has been hating on Crosby since 2005

That really should be the slogan,

“AN, hating on the A’s since the All Star Break…”

"I was right and you were wrong." - Ray Fosse

by kbtoyz on Aug 14, 2008 2:54 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Not hating....

It’s more like preparing for the worst. Just makes the worst more tolerable when it gets here

I dream of Fremont and rainbows

by OptimistPrime on Aug 14, 2008 2:55 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

OK

“AN lowering expectations since since Beane started trading pitchers…”

"I was right and you were wrong." - Ray Fosse

by kbtoyz on Aug 14, 2008 2:57 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Yep, get your hater-aid right here

"Not in your wildest alcoholic nightmare would you ever imagine such events unfolding!" Bill King

by Buck Turgidson on Aug 14, 2008 2:56 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

the number throws me off

It reminds me of that book Billy Beane wrote for some reason.

by Future Ed on Aug 14, 2008 2:52 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

No, surely not?

Shouldn’t he have three K’s and a walk, then?

every winning streak ends with taking your underpants off. @('.')@

by Leopold Bloom on Aug 14, 2008 2:55 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

He failed in Stik outs

I dream of Fremont and rainbows

by OptimistPrime on Aug 14, 2008 2:56 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Strickouts, you mean?

every winning streak ends with taking your underpants off. @('.')@

by Leopold Bloom on Aug 14, 2008 2:57 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Yeah...

that two

:)

I dream of Fremont and rainbows

by OptimistPrime on Aug 14, 2008 2:58 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Joey Devine

Stud pitcher

I hate unproductive outs and the A's are producing them at record production

by Trainman on Aug 14, 2008 2:54 PM PDT reply actions   0 recs

L S !

I dream of Fremont and rainbows

by OptimistPrime on Aug 14, 2008 2:54 PM PDT reply actions   0 recs

Devine's ERA is under 1 now.

I see the future. I see cake.

by Blicks on Aug 14, 2008 2:54 PM PDT reply actions   0 recs

Ellis keen eye...

every winning streak ends with taking your underpants off. @('.')@

by Leopold Bloom on Aug 14, 2008 2:58 PM PDT reply actions   0 recs

that's his Indian name, I believe.

every winning streak ends with taking your underpants off. @('.')@

by Leopold Bloom on Aug 14, 2008 2:59 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Why is everyone blaming Emil today. I blame Thomas. He was the one up with

less than 2 outs, when an out should score a run. Emil has 2 outs and needed a hit. Thomas has a OPS of .571 in August, and only a 760 for the year. I know he has had a better career, but Frank has been basically terrible since returning from the DL.

by theblackpearl on Aug 14, 2008 2:59 PM PDT reply actions   0 recs

Blasphemer!

Infidel!

Parasite!

Away, you! Away!

every winning streak ends with taking your underpants off. @('.')@

by Leopold Bloom on Aug 14, 2008 3:00 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

DFA Thomas!

I dream of Fremont and rainbows

by OptimistPrime on Aug 14, 2008 3:00 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Emil is easy to blame because he gets a lot of crap

But you’re right, Frank is more to blame today

"I was right and you were wrong." - Ray Fosse

by kbtoyz on Aug 14, 2008 3:00 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

because Frank's about to hit a HR

The A's colors are green and gold.

by mikeA on Aug 14, 2008 3:01 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

I can't hear you!

lalalalalalalalalalalalala

every winning streak ends with taking your underpants off. @('.')@

by Leopold Bloom on Aug 14, 2008 3:04 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Thurston "JP" Howell the third

now all we need is Gilligan and we have bad tv

I dream of Fremont and rainbows

by OptimistPrime on Aug 14, 2008 3:00 PM PDT reply actions   0 recs

We already have bad TV

aren’t you watching

"I was right and you were wrong." - Ray Fosse

by kbtoyz on Aug 14, 2008 3:01 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

cargo or sweeney

who would you rather have on your team?"

by robbo650 on Aug 14, 2008 3:01 PM PDT reply actions   0 recs

Gonzalez

Bring back Hammer.

by OaktownPower on Aug 14, 2008 3:02 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Cargo

"I was right and you were wrong." - Ray Fosse

by kbtoyz on Aug 14, 2008 3:02 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

gonzalez. several times over.

every winning streak ends with taking your underpants off. @('.')@

by Leopold Bloom on Aug 14, 2008 3:02 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

cargo

without a doubt

by DC Athletics on Aug 14, 2008 3:02 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

even tho sweeneys hitting 20 point higher??

by robbo650 on Aug 14, 2008 3:03 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

you convinced me, all hitter evaluations should be based only on batting average.

A's v Giants "is kind of like the difference between going to see the Ramones and going to see the Bee Gees. A's fans will go see the Ramones." -BB 07/27/05

by xbhaskarx on Aug 14, 2008 3:06 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Gonzalez!

Reminds me of Beltran but better!

by goldgluv on Aug 14, 2008 3:03 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Whoa. That's a bit much.

I think the A’s will be ridiculously happy if Cargo turns into Beltran, no one’s expecting that.

"All your baserunner are belong to Greg Smith" ~ walk off bunt

by Philip Christy on Aug 14, 2008 3:06 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

he's only 22

his power and sense of the strike zone will develop with time! meaning less strike outs which he does a lot and higher average!

by goldgluv on Aug 14, 2008 3:12 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

why do we have to choose?

can’t we comfortably afford and keep both?

by inbillywetrust on Aug 14, 2008 3:05 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Pull Ellis, put in Patterson, steal base.

PLEASE

I see the future. I see cake.

by Blicks on Aug 14, 2008 3:02 PM PDT reply actions   0 recs

I like the way you think.

Call Geren on the AN phone.

every winning streak ends with taking your underpants off. @('.')@

by Leopold Bloom on Aug 14, 2008 3:03 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

It is very broken

I dream of Fremont and rainbows

by OptimistPrime on Aug 14, 2008 3:06 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

And cannot be fixed.

I see the future. I see cake.

by Blicks on Aug 14, 2008 3:07 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

OH MAN! There's a phone!

…how we can dream

"I was right and you were wrong." - Ray Fosse

by kbtoyz on Aug 14, 2008 3:04 PM PDT reply actions   0 recs

sure there's a phone.

Remember when Blez had it installed and we decided not to tell all the stupid peo…oh…um…never mind.

every winning streak ends with taking your underpants off. @('.')@

by Leopold Bloom on Aug 14, 2008 3:06 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Egg hatch?

every winning streak ends with taking your underpants off. @('.')@

by Leopold Bloom on Aug 14, 2008 3:09 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Maybe I want Sweeney now...

"I was right and you were wrong." - Ray Fosse

by kbtoyz on Aug 14, 2008 3:05 PM PDT reply actions   0 recs

better nickname for carlos gonzalez

Cargo or Cargon ive heard him called both

by robbo650 on Aug 14, 2008 3:07 PM PDT reply actions   0 recs

Cargo

more images and better wordplay.

"Camelot sure fell apart, didn't it?"-Steve McCatty

by 5Aces on Aug 14, 2008 3:41 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Atta boy Ellis.

I see the future. I see cake.

by Blicks on Aug 14, 2008 3:08 PM PDT reply actions   0 recs

we don't need no stinkin' Patterson!

every winning streak ends with taking your underpants off. @('.')@

by Leopold Bloom on Aug 14, 2008 3:08 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

AWESOME!!!!

Stolen base…now we can leave Ellis to languish at second rather than First

I dream of Fremont and rainbows

by OptimistPrime on Aug 14, 2008 3:08 PM PDT reply actions   0 recs

RISP Alert!!!!!!

It’s a miracle!

"I'm not going to buy my kids an encyclopedia. Let them walk to school like I did." -Yogi Berra

by brenarlo on Aug 14, 2008 3:08 PM PDT reply actions   0 recs

Strike out looking alert

I hate unproductive outs and the A's are producing them at record production

by Trainman on Aug 14, 2008 3:09 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

would people agree

would people agree that Carlos Gonzalez is the best new player on the a’s
this kids the real thing

by jhroac02 on Aug 14, 2008 3:09 PM PDT reply actions   0 recs

Boy that really says a lot....

"I'm not going to buy my kids an encyclopedia. Let them walk to school like I did." -Yogi Berra

by brenarlo on Aug 14, 2008 3:09 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

yes.

every winning streak ends with taking your underpants off. @('.')@

by Leopold Bloom on Aug 14, 2008 3:09 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Yes

Someone mentioned Carlos Beltran but better. I agree.

I hate unproductive outs and the A's are producing them at record production

by Trainman on Aug 14, 2008 3:10 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Best new position player, yes.

I see the future. I see cake.

by Blicks on Aug 14, 2008 3:10 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

No....

Ziggy

then Carlos

I dream of Fremont and rainbows

by OptimistPrime on Aug 14, 2008 3:10 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Ziggy...

Hmmm. Good point.

But Cargo’s significantly younger, and has a much higher ceiling….

still going with Gonzalez.

every winning streak ends with taking your underpants off. @('.')@

by Leopold Bloom on Aug 14, 2008 3:11 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

In reality, Ziggy has been spectacular, but his career arch will be nowhere close to

Cargon. With the shelf live of relievers, he could be Chad Bradford next year.

by theblackpearl on Aug 14, 2008 3:12 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Sorry

He gives tall, lanky, skinny guys like me a ray of hope and he signed for me yesterday

I dream of Fremont and rainbows

by OptimistPrime on Aug 14, 2008 3:11 PM PDT reply actions   0 recs

what about Blevins?

Don’t shortchange the scarecrow.

every winning streak ends with taking your underpants off. @('.')@

by Leopold Bloom on Aug 14, 2008 3:12 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Elbows and Knees?

I dream of Fremont and rainbows

by OptimistPrime on Aug 14, 2008 3:13 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

kinda wobbly, ain't he?

every winning streak ends with taking your underpants off. @('.')@

by Leopold Bloom on Aug 14, 2008 3:14 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

The 2008 Oakland Athletics: Your new source of wind energy!

"I'm not going to buy my kids an encyclopedia. Let them walk to school like I did." -Yogi Berra

by brenarlo on Aug 14, 2008 3:13 PM PDT reply actions   0 recs

they're environmentalists.

they care.

every winning streak ends with taking your underpants off. @('.')@

by Leopold Bloom on Aug 14, 2008 3:13 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

And this is much more consistent wind energy... no off-peak times.

"I'm not going to buy my kids an encyclopedia. Let them walk to school like I did." -Yogi Berra

by brenarlo on Aug 14, 2008 3:14 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Ziggy sighting.

every winning streak ends with taking your underpants off. @('.')@

by Leopold Bloom on Aug 14, 2008 3:14 PM PDT reply actions   0 recs

here we go

now it’s worth watching again

by DC Athletics on Aug 14, 2008 3:14 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Getting Ziggy

I dream of Fremont and rainbows

by OptimistPrime on Aug 14, 2008 3:14 PM PDT reply actions   0 recs

Ziggometer?

every winning streak ends with taking your underpants off. @('.')@

by Leopold Bloom on Aug 14, 2008 3:15 PM PDT reply actions   0 recs

Experimental data not all in yet...

Gotta wait for the paper to be published.

too bad the Superconducting super collider got canceled.

by MobiusKlein on Aug 14, 2008 3:22 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Phew...

That was hit WELL

Bring back Hammer.

by OaktownPower on Aug 14, 2008 3:16 PM PDT reply actions   0 recs

cargo. yay.

every winning streak ends with taking your underpants off. @('.')@

by Leopold Bloom on Aug 14, 2008 3:16 PM PDT reply actions   0 recs

Ziggy In the House

1 K, 1 FO, 4 more to go. (And the A’s have to score)

More than just ANtics: http://www.louisgray.com/live/

by louismg on Aug 14, 2008 3:16 PM PDT reply actions   0 recs

shhhhhhhhhhhhhhh

don’t ruin ziggy’s outing by mentioning the S word…

by jlanning17 on Aug 14, 2008 3:20 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

ahh, but where would Ziggy be without Carlos, not to mention Bad Sweeney

"Not in your wildest alcoholic nightmare would you ever imagine such events unfolding!" Bill King

by Buck Turgidson on Aug 14, 2008 3:16 PM PDT reply actions   0 recs

There's an evil Sweeney?

Does he have a goatee?

every winning streak ends with taking your underpants off. @('.')@

by Leopold Bloom on Aug 14, 2008 3:17 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Not evil just bad

"Not in your wildest alcoholic nightmare would you ever imagine such events unfolding!" Bill King

by Buck Turgidson on Aug 14, 2008 3:20 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

That was such an aptly titled movie.

He was bad. Very bad.

every winning streak ends with taking your underpants off. @('.')@

by Leopold Bloom on Aug 14, 2008 3:21 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

There aren't really any good quotes from that film

just uuuhhhhhhheeeeeeoouuuuuuuuuuuuyyoooooooo

"Not in your wildest alcoholic nightmare would you ever imagine such events unfolding!" Bill King

by Buck Turgidson on Aug 14, 2008 3:23 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

show me your ass?

every winning streak ends with taking your underpants off. @('.')@

by Leopold Bloom on Aug 14, 2008 3:25 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

lol

"Not in your wildest alcoholic nightmare would you ever imagine such events unfolding!" Bill King

by Buck Turgidson on Aug 14, 2008 3:26 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

:O

I dream of Fremont and rainbows

by OptimistPrime on Aug 14, 2008 3:17 PM PDT reply actions   0 recs

Nice!

39

Bring back Hammer.

by OaktownPower on Aug 14, 2008 3:17 PM PDT reply actions   0 recs

Ziggy at 39

I’m not following the A’s all that closely these days …and I hate to jinx things, but … has Ziggy had an outing this year where he allowed a runner even to get into scoring position with less than 2 outs? I’m sure he has, but it seems like he doesn’t even come close to giving up runs …

by solotar on Aug 14, 2008 3:19 PM PDT reply actions   0 recs

Yes, he has a number of times

More recently, they’ve come in a ‘leadoff batter reaches base, next batter sacrifices him to second’ situation.

Last of the Ninth - Photography Site / jamesvenes.com - Blog

by Flashfire on Aug 14, 2008 3:20 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

but no extra base hits.

every winning streak ends with taking your underpants off. @('.')@

by Leopold Bloom on Aug 14, 2008 3:20 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Whatever the case, Ziggy tied Al Benton for longest scoreless streak by a relief pitcher...

…with the caveat of Benton’s streak coming while allowing runs in a starting role.

Last of the Ninth - Photography Site / jamesvenes.com - Blog

by Flashfire on Aug 14, 2008 3:21 PM PDT reply actions   0 recs

Walking Emil...

hahahaha!

I am Ray Fosse's infatuations with Clay Wood and high-definition television.

by franks a lot on Aug 14, 2008 3:22 PM PDT reply actions   0 recs

wow.

just wow. keep the freakin bat head up. has he not heard that every time he’s bunted since little league???

by DC Athletics on Aug 14, 2008 3:22 PM PDT reply actions   0 recs

4 Pitch Walk to Brown?

Please spank a slider to the shortstop on two hops, BoCro!

by solotar on Aug 14, 2008 3:22 PM PDT reply actions   0 recs

OK, pull Emil, put in Patterson, steal base.

Let’s try this again, because I don’t think Emil steals bases.

I see the future. I see cake.

by Blicks on Aug 14, 2008 3:23 PM PDT reply actions   0 recs

Nah...we want to save Emil's bat just in case of extra innings

I am Ray Fosse's infatuations with Clay Wood and high-definition television.

by franks a lot on Aug 14, 2008 3:24 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

only when the A's try to do...because they do it wrong

I am Ray Fosse's infatuations with Clay Wood and high-definition television.

by franks a lot on Aug 14, 2008 3:24 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Still, it is a useful strategy when it works.

The debate is all in whether or not it works enough to be worth it.

If it helps you win the game, it’s worth it.

Last of the Ninth - Photography Site / jamesvenes.com - Blog

by Flashfire on Aug 14, 2008 3:27 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

isn't that argument a bit circular?

It works when it worked?

You could say the same about swinging away – it works when the guy hits a HR.

by MobiusKlein on Aug 14, 2008 3:28 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

But when that guy is somebody like Crosby who is going to make an out anyway

It’s not necessarily a bad idea. Especially in a tie game in the 8th inning.

by thejd44 on Aug 14, 2008 3:27 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

I know you're being facetious, but even with Crosby being really good at making outs

He’s “only” making an out 70% of the time.

Sac bunting makes an out pretty much 100% of the time.

I’ll take the 30% chance that he gets a hit.

by mikev on Aug 14, 2008 3:30 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Isn't the sabremetrics line

that to bunt when you have a runner on first with no/one out is bad, but to bunt with a runner on second with no outs is good, provided you have someone who can lay the bunt down?

every winning streak ends with taking your underpants off. @('.')@

by Leopold Bloom on Aug 14, 2008 3:27 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

As much as I hate the idea

Please pinch-run Geren!!!! Patterson/Davis for DFA.

"Loyal? I'm the most loyal player money can buy." - Don Sutton

by vignette17 on Aug 14, 2008 3:24 PM PDT reply actions   0 recs

Remember that game before the break when the Angels bunted with two outs?

And then he scored on a ground ball to the shortstop? Bunting is not stupid.

by solotar on Aug 14, 2008 3:26 PM PDT reply actions   0 recs

Yes.

Bunting for a hit, while still IMO not a great idea to attempt, isn’t an awful way to try and get on base. Every once in a while you need to make sure the 3B is paying attention.

by mikev on Aug 14, 2008 3:32 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Ugh

The only time DFA doesn’t run on a line drive is when it’s obvious to everybody but him that it’s goin gto drive. Figures.

by thejd44 on Aug 14, 2008 3:26 PM PDT reply actions   0 recs

I wish Ziggy delivered Saag's to Florida.

every winning streak ends with taking your underpants off. @('.')@

by Leopold Bloom on Aug 14, 2008 3:30 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Oh man..

Another ball to the wall

Bring back Hammer.

by OaktownPower on Aug 14, 2008 3:30 PM PDT reply actions   0 recs

Adventures in LF

The new book by Jack Cust…

"I was right and you were wrong." - Ray Fosse

by kbtoyz on Aug 14, 2008 3:30 PM PDT reply actions   0 recs

There sure are a lot of fly balls for Ziggy.

Is his pitches staying up in the zone or are batters adjusting their swing for him?

by Coffee13eans on Aug 14, 2008 3:31 PM PDT reply actions   0 recs

They're....adapting.

They’re learning….to love….

every winning streak ends with taking your underpants off. @('.')@

by Leopold Bloom on Aug 14, 2008 3:33 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

I'm thinking adjustment.

After 29 scoreless appearances, the league’s going to adapt. To what extent is yet to be known.

I see the future. I see cake.

by Blicks on Aug 14, 2008 3:32 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Announcers are freaking me out with the fly balls!

So, bring on Bonds! Or, not... then, bring back Langerhans!! -One won lost one

by baseballgirl on Aug 14, 2008 3:31 PM PDT reply actions   0 recs

It sounds like his pitches are up

He did pitch Tues, and warmed up yesterday..and his second inning.

Gulp

So, bring on Bonds! Or, not... then, bring back Langerhans!! -One won lost one

by baseballgirl on Aug 14, 2008 3:34 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

C'mon Ziggy!

So, bring on Bonds! Or, not... then, bring back Langerhans!! -One won lost one

by baseballgirl on Aug 14, 2008 3:32 PM PDT reply actions   0 recs

Streak over

Bring back Hammer.

by OaktownPower on Aug 14, 2008 3:34 PM PDT reply actions   0 recs

;(

Dang.

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by Kimberly on Aug 14, 2008 3:34 PM PDT reply actions   0 recs

damn.

every winning streak ends with taking your underpants off. @('.')@

by Leopold Bloom on Aug 14, 2008 3:34 PM PDT reply actions   0 recs

OH NO!!!

So, bring on Bonds! Or, not... then, bring back Langerhans!! -One won lost one

by baseballgirl on Aug 14, 2008 3:34 PM PDT reply actions   0 recs

NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO.

I see the future. I see cake.

by Blicks on Aug 14, 2008 3:34 PM PDT reply actions   0 recs

Tell me it's CUST's fault

Let’s hope the A’s pick Ziggy up in th 9th

by MobiusKlein on Aug 14, 2008 3:36 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

He didn't butcher it, but

another outfielder could’ve played it better and maybe gotten the out.

39 and counting...

by ZigFan31 on Aug 14, 2008 3:37 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

shoot

I dream of Fremont and rainbows

by OptimistPrime on Aug 14, 2008 3:35 PM PDT reply actions   0 recs

Man, Congrats To Ziggy....

Just an awesome, remarkable streak……

Bring back Hammer.

by OaktownPower on Aug 14, 2008 3:35 PM PDT reply actions   0 recs

weinerheads

I dream of Fremont and rainbows

by OptimistPrime on Aug 14, 2008 3:35 PM PDT reply actions   0 recs

Ziggy that was an AWESOME run

We love you!

I miss Eric Plunk

by chuckcheeze on Aug 14, 2008 3:35 PM PDT reply actions   0 recs

This is the way the world ends.

Not with bang. But a whimper.

More than just ANtics: http://www.louisgray.com/live/

by louismg on Aug 14, 2008 3:35 PM PDT reply actions   0 recs

Stands. Applauds.

Breaks down and sobs like a small child.

"I'm disappointed Ziggy didn't pump his fist towards the sky 100 times and scream like a hooker." ~Nico.

by LAXile on Aug 14, 2008 3:35 PM PDT reply actions   0 recs

Ziggy

mancrush.

I heart you.

Now, shit. we lost the lead

I dream of Fremont and rainbows

by OptimistPrime on Aug 14, 2008 3:36 PM PDT reply actions   0 recs

Wow. .23.

.23 is more impressive than 0.00 in some way.

More than just ANtics: http://www.louisgray.com/live/

by louismg on Aug 14, 2008 3:38 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Standing ovation. NOW.

I see the future. I see cake.

by Blicks on Aug 14, 2008 3:36 PM PDT reply actions   0 recs

I've got to say I just could feel this was going to happen.

"I'm disappointed Ziggy didn't pump his fist towards the sky 100 times and scream like a hooker." ~Nico.

by LAXile on Aug 14, 2008 3:37 PM PDT reply actions   0 recs

just one batter too late

that outing was like me most of the time, one day late and a dollar short

by A'sfaninNC on Aug 14, 2008 3:39 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

I did not know the streak ended until now

but I knew something was up that only dogs and other animals could sense, like earthquakes, cause they all went nutts around town at about that time it ended.

alaska A

by ak_A on Aug 14, 2008 3:38 PM PDT reply actions   0 recs

I would love for the A's to walk-off rally

so Ziggy doesn’t get the loss.

I see the future. I see cake.

by Blicks on Aug 14, 2008 3:38 PM PDT reply actions   0 recs

+1

"I was right and you were wrong." - Ray Fosse

by kbtoyz on Aug 14, 2008 3:39 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

0.22 ERA

is kind of more fun to look at though.

Bring back Hammer.

by OaktownPower on Aug 14, 2008 3:38 PM PDT reply actions   0 recs

I agree. I've been waiting to see how low his ERA would be

when he finally gave up a run. Looks great.

So, bring on Bonds! Or, not... then, bring back Langerhans!! -One won lost one

by baseballgirl on Aug 14, 2008 3:41 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Hmmm...

It’ll take 2 scoreless innings to knock it down 0.01 to 0.21.

by Eggman on Aug 14, 2008 3:45 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

What an incredible streak

Somehow they need to come back and win it for him

I hate unproductive outs and the A's are producing them at record production

by Trainman on Aug 14, 2008 3:39 PM PDT reply actions   0 recs

Now can we score more than 4 runs?

by Eggman on Aug 14, 2008 3:39 PM PDT reply actions   0 recs

+100000000000000000000

I see the future. I see cake.

by Blicks on Aug 14, 2008 3:40 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

The only reason for watching this team has ended.

I feel lost.

McGwire belongs in the Hall so put him there

by streetisclosedin08 on Aug 14, 2008 3:40 PM PDT reply actions   0 recs

right because they're going to kick ziggy off the team for giving up a run

A's v Giants "is kind of like the difference between going to see the Ramones and going to see the Bee Gees. A's fans will go see the Ramones." -BB 07/27/05

by xbhaskarx on Aug 14, 2008 3:48 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

If there is an ounce of pride left in this ballclub

they will get Z-Rod the win in the bottom of the frame.

"I'm disappointed Ziggy didn't pump his fist towards the sky 100 times and scream like a hooker." ~Nico.

by LAXile on Aug 14, 2008 3:40 PM PDT reply actions   0 recs

+1

that is terrible, never wanna see that again

by HRH on Aug 14, 2008 3:41 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Please promise

to never ever ever model any nickname for our players on the California Anaheim Angels of Fullerton

I dream of Fremont and rainbows

by OptimistPrime on Aug 14, 2008 3:42 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

I never want to see that nickname again. EVER.

Ziggy >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Anything-Rod

I see the future. I see cake.

by Blicks on Aug 14, 2008 3:42 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

It's a fucking joke, people.

Z-Rod, Z-Rod, Z-Rod, Z-Rod, Z-Rod, Z-Rod, Z-Rod, Z-Rod, Z-Rod, Z-Rod, Z-Rod, Z-Rod, Z-Rod, Z-Rod, Z-Rod, Z-Rod, Z-Rod, Z-Rod, Z-Rod, Z-Rod, Z-Rod, Z-Rod, Z-Rod, Z-Rod, Z-Rod, Z-Rod, Z-Rod, Z-Rod, Z-Rod, Z-Rod, Z-Rod, Z-Rod, Z-Rod, Z-Rod, Z-Rod, Z-Rod, Z-Rod, Z-Rod, Z-Rod, Z-Rod, Z-Rod, Z-Rod, Z-Rod, Z-Rod, Z-Rod, Z-Rod, Z-Rod, Z-Rod, Z-Rod, Z-Rod, Z-Rod, Z-Rod, Z-Rod, Z-Rod, Z-Rod, Z-Rod, Z-Rod, Z-Rod, Z-Rod, Z-Rod, Z-Rod, Z-Rod, Z-Rod, Z-Rod, Z-Rod, Z-Rod, Z-Rod, Z-Rod, Z-Rod, Z-Rod, Z-Rod, Z-Rod, Z-Rod, Z-Rod, Z-Rod, Z-Rod, Z-Rod, Z-Rod, Z-Rod, Z-Rod, Z-Rod, Z-Rod, Z-Rod, Z-Rod, Z-Rod, Z-Rod, Z-Rod, Z-Rod, Z-Rod, Z-Rod, Z-Rod, Z-Rod, Z-Rod, Z-Rod, Z-Rod, Z-Rod, Z-Rod, Z-Rod, Z-Rod, Z-Rod, Z-Rod, Z-Rod, Z-Rod, Z-Rod, Z-Rod, Z-Rod, Z-Rod, Z-Rod, Z-Rod, Z-Rod,

"I'm disappointed Ziggy didn't pump his fist towards the sky 100 times and scream like a hooker." ~Nico.

by LAXile on Aug 14, 2008 3:44 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

You are in time out

I dream of Fremont and rainbows

by OptimistPrime on Aug 14, 2008 3:46 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

I thought it was funny

(cowers in fear of retaliation)

by Rhndasue on Aug 14, 2008 3:46 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

So did I.

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by Kimberly on Aug 14, 2008 3:48 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Cliff!

"I was right and you were wrong." - Ray Fosse

by kbtoyz on Aug 14, 2008 3:42 PM PDT reply actions   0 recs

Leadoff walk.....

Cmon, get Ziggy off the hook here.

Pennington running for Hannahan

Bring back Hammer.

by OaktownPower on Aug 14, 2008 3:42 PM PDT reply actions   0 recs

RALLY CAPS

Let's have our Piazza and eat the Cust too - SPWC

by closetasfan on Aug 14, 2008 3:42 PM PDT reply actions   0 recs

WE ARE GOING TO WIN!!!!!!

or lose

I dream of Fremont and rainbows

by OptimistPrime on Aug 14, 2008 3:43 PM PDT reply actions   0 recs

Bunt Cake!

I dream of Fremont and rainbows

by OptimistPrime on Aug 14, 2008 3:44 PM PDT reply actions   0 recs

Percy hurt.

Bring back Hammer.

by OaktownPower on Aug 14, 2008 3:45 PM PDT reply actions   0 recs

Worst name ever for a pitcher

"However, at Elias, I think they keep track of the amount of sunflower seeds spit in a dugout each night." - Brad Ziegler, 8/7/08

by doctorK on Aug 14, 2008 3:47 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

I love BallFour!

At least they are not bringing in Strikout

I dream of Fremont and rainbows

by OptimistPrime on Aug 14, 2008 3:46 PM PDT reply actions   0 recs

C'mon A's...one win here!

So, bring on Bonds! Or, not... then, bring back Langerhans!! -One won lost one

by baseballgirl on Aug 14, 2008 3:47 PM PDT reply actions   0 recs

BBG brings the love!

Now we WILL win!

I dream of Fremont and rainbows

by OptimistPrime on Aug 14, 2008 3:48 PM PDT reply actions   0 recs

I think I would have rather seen Percy here.

So, bring on Bonds! Or, not... then, bring back Langerhans!! -One won lost one

by baseballgirl on Aug 14, 2008 3:49 PM PDT reply actions   0 recs

Agreed.

39 remarkable innings.

by ZigFan31 on Aug 14, 2008 3:50 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

what happened to him?

"If writing too much about the Classics is wrong, I don't want to be right."

by Chris... on Aug 14, 2008 3:50 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Ellis shoved him to the ground, hard, in his effort to get to first safe

So, bring on Bonds! Or, not... then, bring back Langerhans!! -One won lost one

by baseballgirl on Aug 14, 2008 3:51 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

No, that didn't really happen.

He tweaked something tagging Ellis out.

So, bring on Bonds! Or, not... then, bring back Langerhans!! -One won lost one

by baseballgirl on Aug 14, 2008 3:51 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

C'mon! Win this one for BiZy!

"I'm disappointed Ziggy didn't pump his fist towards the sky 100 times and scream like a hooker." ~Nico.

by LAXile on Aug 14, 2008 3:49 PM PDT reply actions   0 recs

Who is hurt?

gameday says injury delay?

"Camelot sure fell apart, didn't it?"-Steve McCatty

by 5Aces on Aug 14, 2008 3:50 PM PDT reply actions   0 recs

Percival

"I was right and you were wrong." - Ray Fosse

by kbtoyz on Aug 14, 2008 3:50 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Percival

So, bring on Bonds! Or, not... then, bring back Langerhans!! -One won lost one

by baseballgirl on Aug 14, 2008 3:50 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

percy sledge

I dream of Fremont and rainbows

by OptimistPrime on Aug 14, 2008 3:51 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

as long as it wasn't his sister

"Camelot sure fell apart, didn't it?"-Steve McCatty

by 5Aces on Aug 14, 2008 3:52 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Percy

Bring back Hammer.

by OaktownPower on Aug 14, 2008 3:51 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Percival

I hate unproductive outs and the A's are producing them at record production

by Trainman on Aug 14, 2008 3:51 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

LOL 5 people reply at once

I hate unproductive outs and the A's are producing them at record production

by Trainman on Aug 14, 2008 3:51 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

now

that’s teamwork!

"If writing too much about the Classics is wrong, I don't want to be right."

by Chris... on Aug 14, 2008 3:52 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Percival

...and the future is now!

by gio_is_the_future on Aug 14, 2008 3:53 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Troy

Procrastinators unite....tomorrow

by muffinpryde on Aug 14, 2008 3:53 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Huston?

Nooooooooooooooooooooo

by Rhndasue on Aug 14, 2008 3:51 PM PDT reply actions   0 recs

arent we a helpful bunch

I dream of Fremont and rainbows

by OptimistPrime on Aug 14, 2008 3:51 PM PDT reply actions   0 recs

2-0 Meatball coming

I hate unproductive outs and the A's are producing them at record production

by Trainman on Aug 14, 2008 3:52 PM PDT reply actions   0 recs

OMG

What a great idea! We have a chance here, let’s get Street up

I dream of Fremont and rainbows

by OptimistPrime on Aug 14, 2008 3:52 PM PDT reply actions   0 recs

I would rather have seen ziggy go one inning

two inning saves are rare for rivera; ziggy’s awesome and he’s our man but he’s not mo

it is not possible to strategize while the ball is coming towards you

by eastcoasta'sfan on Aug 14, 2008 3:52 PM PDT reply actions   0 recs

he's been consistently pitching 2-3 innings all season

"I was right and you were wrong." - Ray Fosse

by kbtoyz on Aug 14, 2008 3:53 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

PLEEEASE

Win one for the Zigster

by Rhndasue on Aug 14, 2008 3:53 PM PDT reply actions   0 recs

Come on Frank....

"I was right and you were wrong." - Ray Fosse

by kbtoyz on Aug 14, 2008 3:53 PM PDT reply actions   0 recs

TIE!

Bring back Hammer.

by OaktownPower on Aug 14, 2008 3:54 PM PDT reply actions   0 recs

YES!!!!!!

at least Ziggy won’t get the L

"I was right and you were wrong." - Ray Fosse

by kbtoyz on Aug 14, 2008 3:54 PM PDT reply actions   0 recs

Frank Saves Ziggy

I hate unproductive outs and the A's are producing them at record production

by Trainman on Aug 14, 2008 3:54 PM PDT reply actions   0 recs

Also, they scored 5!

"I was right and you were wrong." - Ray Fosse

by kbtoyz on Aug 14, 2008 3:55 PM PDT reply actions   0 recs

LOL

...and the future is now!

by gio_is_the_future on Aug 14, 2008 3:56 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

YYYYYYYYYYYYAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAYYYYYYYYYYYY!!!!

~signed ziggy

I dream of Fremont and rainbows

by OptimistPrime on Aug 14, 2008 3:55 PM PDT reply actions   0 recs

5 RUNS!!!!!!!!!

5 RUNS
5 RUNS
5 RUNS
5 RUNS
5 RUNS
5 RUNS
5 RUNS

by El Cerrito Steve on Aug 14, 2008 3:55 PM PDT reply actions   0 recs

YEAH FRANK!!!!

THANK YOU!!!!!!

So, bring on Bonds! Or, not... then, bring back Langerhans!! -One won lost one

by baseballgirl on Aug 14, 2008 3:55 PM PDT reply actions   0 recs

Has the world gone mad?

"I'm disappointed Ziggy didn't pump his fist towards the sky 100 times and scream like a hooker." ~Nico.

by LAXile on Aug 14, 2008 3:56 PM PDT reply actions   0 recs

DFA Brown

I mean Thank You Frank!

I dream of Fremont and rainbows

by OptimistPrime on Aug 14, 2008 3:56 PM PDT reply actions   0 recs

amazing, a negative ERA!

A's v Giants "is kind of like the difference between going to see the Ramones and going to see the Bee Gees. A's fans will go see the Ramones." -BB 07/27/05

by xbhaskarx on Aug 14, 2008 3:57 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Scoreboard is broken

5 RUNS DOES NOT COMPUTE

More than just ANtics: http://www.louisgray.com/live/

by louismg on Aug 14, 2008 3:56 PM PDT reply actions   0 recs

The scoreboard operator had to ask around

to figure out what to do…

"Camelot sure fell apart, didn't it?"-Steve McCatty

by 5Aces on Aug 14, 2008 3:57 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Get Street Up!

In front of a firing squad

I dream of Fremont and rainbows

by OptimistPrime on Aug 14, 2008 3:57 PM PDT reply actions   0 recs

WTF!!!

Geren = monkey pushing buttons! If we don’t score here, we lose. Davis for FT – such a bad idea.

by 33SwisherSweet on Aug 14, 2008 3:57 PM PDT reply actions   0 recs

and that, theblackpearl, is why people prefer frank thomas over emil brown

A's v Giants "is kind of like the difference between going to see the Ramones and going to see the Bee Gees. A's fans will go see the Ramones." -BB 07/27/05

by xbhaskarx on Aug 14, 2008 3:57 PM PDT reply actions   0 recs

In blind taste test

I dream of Fremont and rainbows

by OptimistPrime on Aug 14, 2008 3:58 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

I've been in and out of this thread

Did somebody actually try to compare the two? Seriously?

by thejd44 on Aug 14, 2008 3:58 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

there was a comparison earlier

on who was more to blame for leaving the bases loaded in the 5th

"I was right and you were wrong." - Ray Fosse

by kbtoyz on Aug 14, 2008 4:02 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Oh, I see, so one failed Thomas at bat means he's as bad as Emil

That’s just tremendous. I want to nominate that for some sort of short-sightedness award.

by thejd44 on Aug 14, 2008 4:05 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

link

A's v Giants "is kind of like the difference between going to see the Ramones and going to see the Bee Gees. A's fans will go see the Ramones." -BB 07/27/05

by xbhaskarx on Aug 14, 2008 4:04 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

You're kidding right? This is some sort of joke that's failing?

Frank’s numbers with the A’s this year before today: .284/.382/.448

by thejd44 on Aug 14, 2008 4:00 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

So, he hasn't been with the A's all year, and his OPS since returning from the DL , is just

over .500. I am not comparing the 2, I am just tired of people who think Brown is the only problem with this crappy team, and without Brown they would be in 1st place. Frank has been horrible lately.

by theblackpearl on Aug 14, 2008 4:02 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Seriously, just stop.

He’s played in about 10 games since sitting out for 2 months. He didn’t have a rehab assignment.

Nobody has, as far as I can tell, has even once said the A’s are a first place team without Brown. Show me where somebody did that.

Frank Thomas taking 50 PA to get heated up after a 2-month layoff is not even the same effing ballpark as Emil Brown having a long, shitty career.

by thejd44 on Aug 14, 2008 4:03 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Frank has had a great career, but I just don't think he has it anymore, he can't

catch up to fastballs. I don’t think he will be effective anymore.

by theblackpearl on Aug 14, 2008 4:06 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

how does his 830 OPS with the a’s this year compare to the rest of the lineup?

A's v Giants "is kind of like the difference between going to see the Ramones and going to see the Bee Gees. A's fans will go see the Ramones." -BB 07/27/05

by xbhaskarx on Aug 14, 2008 4:08 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

he didn't look right in april 2006 either

A's v Giants "is kind of like the difference between going to see the Ramones and going to see the Bee Gees. A's fans will go see the Ramones." -BB 07/27/05

by xbhaskarx on Aug 14, 2008 4:12 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

1) that’s a dozen games. frank thomas has played in over 2,300 games.
2) frank always takes a little while to heat up (see 2006, early 2008 with toronto).

A's v Giants "is kind of like the difference between going to see the Ramones and going to see the Bee Gees. A's fans will go see the Ramones." -BB 07/27/05

by xbhaskarx on Aug 14, 2008 4:06 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

I am not comparing the two. Frank is far and away the better player. Everyone keeps

saying he is going to heat up. I just don’t see it this time. I think he is closer to done, than you guys are giving him credit for.

by theblackpearl on Aug 14, 2008 4:08 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

maybe

obviously he will be done at some point, it could be now or it could be in the future, we’ll find out eventually. but emil brown has never been good, and i’ll take a possible has been over a certain never was.

A's v Giants "is kind of like the difference between going to see the Ramones and going to see the Bee Gees. A's fans will go see the Ramones." -BB 07/27/05

by xbhaskarx on Aug 14, 2008 4:12 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Um, another inexplicable move by Geren

He should’ve used Patterson to run for Frank, so Davis can play the outfield if the A’s don’t win it here. Doesn’t make much sense to waste Davis’ defensive ability when he’s only marginally faster than Patterson.

by thejd44 on Aug 14, 2008 3:57 PM PDT reply actions   0 recs

You don't HAVE to use Davis as a replacement for Cust now

You should just leave it open as a possibility without forfeiting the DH.

Not only that, but the reason you keep them in the game is because you’re planning to play 12 innings. I’m not sure it’s a good idea to manage a game that way.

by thejd44 on Aug 14, 2008 4:01 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Can you smoke Canine Grass?

I dream of Fremont and rainbows

by OptimistPrime on Aug 14, 2008 3:59 PM PDT reply actions   0 recs

(radio based humor)

I dream of Fremont and rainbows

by OptimistPrime on Aug 14, 2008 4:00 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Has any other manager been in such love with Pinch Runners?

How many times has the PR move worked vs. come back to bite us in the arse when we have no offense in extra innings.

by 33SwisherSweet on Aug 14, 2008 3:59 PM PDT reply actions   0 recs

All managers with FT on base in late innings with a chance to win are

in love with PRs. As am I.

"I'm disappointed Ziggy didn't pump his fist towards the sky 100 times and scream like a hooker." ~Nico.

by LAXile on Aug 14, 2008 4:01 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Chance of scoring a run

starting from man on first, 2 out is pretty low, no matter who is running.

Chance of Davis coming up as the DH in the 11th when you would really, really like to see Frank is pretty high.

by Soaker on Aug 14, 2008 4:03 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

I'd say that the majority of the time it had no effect whatsoever

Although improving the outfield defensve significantly, a byproduct of many of the pinch running situations, has probably saved a few runs. In general, I don’t have much issue with Geren’s pinch running. Just a few qualms here and there.

by thejd44 on Aug 14, 2008 4:02 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

You want Frank to run there?

Gonna take 2 hits or a HR to score him……Rajai could score in a lot of ways. Not to mention Frank gettign hurt trying to score the winning run.

Bring back Hammer.

by OaktownPower on Aug 14, 2008 4:03 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Hell no!

It was fun just to say something snarky.

I dream of Fremont and rainbows

by OptimistPrime on Aug 14, 2008 4:04 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

That doesn't make any damn sense

Something working or not working is not the way you judge whether it’s a good move.

Geren could make a lineup of all pitchers, and by chance they might win a game. That doesn’t mean having all pitchers out there was a good idea.

by thejd44 on Aug 14, 2008 4:06 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Let's see how it works out bro....

Seriously.

A lineup of pitchers wouldn’t win a game. Hit the books lawschool boy.

by 33SwisherSweet on Aug 14, 2008 4:07 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

From May 11 to today

Ziggy gave up 0 runs in 47 2/3 innings in between AAA and the majors. He pitched in 36 straight games without allowing a run. If Frank hadn’t tied it up, the A’s would have broken my heart.

"Loyal? I'm the most loyal player money can buy." - Don Sutton

by vignette17 on Aug 14, 2008 4:03 PM PDT reply actions   0 recs

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