BREAKING NEWS: Team Plays Worse Than A's!
by Nico on Aug 12, 2008 9:54 PM PDT
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Don't get me wrong, the A's did some important things right and a win's a win, but can a team play a whole lot worse than Tampa Bay did tonight? Here's how you get all of four hits and win:
In the 5th inning, with the A's leading 2-1, the Rays put runners at first and third with nobody out against Gio Gonzalez and for some unknown reason Joe Maddon (who I really like, in general, as a manager) decided it would be a cool idea to ask his leadoff hitter, Akinori Iwamura, to lay down a squeeze bunt. Zobrist, figuring that the best compromise between a "safety squeeze" and "suicide squeeze" is to wander gently about 40% of the way between third and home, was tagged out on what you might term a "slight overdose squeeze". Still not satisfied with losing a runner from third, Jason Bartlett then got picked off second.
In the 6th inning, Gio left after putting the first two runners on and Jerry Blevins did a great job of retiring the next three without allowing the runners to advance. No ridiculous baserunning blunders were made, however.
Unlike in the 8th inning, when Willy Aybar forgot how many outs there were and got doubled off of first on a lazy fly ball to left field.
What I love about baseball is that it is utterly impossible to predict. I didn't know that the team with the major league's second best record would resemble the Bad News Bears any more than I knew that the Rangers would score 17 runs tonight and lose.
The A's won because one of their three hits was a two-run HR by Bobby Crosby, because Gio Gonzalez, while wobbly at times (5 hits, 4 BB) was also outstanding at times (1 run, 6 Ks) in his 5+ innings, and because the A's bullpen (Blevins for 2, Devine and Ziggy for 1 each) was sensational - with Ziggy pitching only the 9th but still having to get a "4 out save" thanks to a Barton error leading off the inning. It's a little sad that in a one-run win that required 12 outs from the bullpen, a rested and available Huston Street never even warmed up, but it's also encouraging that the A's are able to rely on the three who pitched tonight in high-leverage situations.
So Gio Gonzalez has his first major league win, Ziggy's scoreless streak stands at 38 innings, the A's have a one-game winning streak, and Joe Maddon has to be wondering what the heck he just saw from his Rays. But thanks!
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way to miss the point
A's v Giants "is kind of like the difference between going to see the Ramones and going to see the Bee Gees. A's fans will go see the Ramones." -BB 07/27/05
by xbhaskarx on Aug 12, 2008 10:01 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
I understand neither Zonis's comment nor what point he was missing
The A's colors are green and gold.
by mikeA on Aug 12, 2008 10:04 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
when Willy Aybar forgot how many outs there were
originally that was “manny” aybar. i thought it was a manny ramirez reference, but since it was corrected, apparently not.
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by xbhaskarx on Aug 12, 2008 10:06 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Subliminally, perhaps, but not overtly
As I was typing I was thinking, “Man he was dumb!” so you can see how the typo might have occurred.
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by Nico on Aug 12, 2008 10:09 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
a's win
celebrate good times come on!
A's v Giants "is kind of like the difference between going to see the Ramones and going to see the Bee Gees. A's fans will go see the Ramones." -BB 07/27/05
by xbhaskarx on Aug 12, 2008 10:01 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
Where do you find these?
"All your baserunner are belong to Greg Smith" ~ walk off bunt
by Philip Christy on Aug 12, 2008 10:18 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
The 70's
or Bedazzled denim jackets with ho space for a second “d” (though Disco Stu doesn’t advertise)
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by oaklandSMASH on Aug 13, 2008 1:52 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
The Rays put the old adage to the extreme
Play to the level of your competition.
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by DMOAS on Aug 12, 2008 10:04 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
Gio IS like the sweetest guy ever!
"I'm telling you, I can't wait to put on that white uniform," Gonzalez said. "That will be the prettiest uniform I'll ever see."
by pam5981 on Aug 12, 2008 10:05 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
All his "blessing" stuff is adorable
by schmifty on Aug 12, 2008 10:05 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
I really want to know Zooks nickname for him.
"I'm telling you, I can't wait to put on that white uniform," Gonzalez said. "That will be the prettiest uniform I'll ever see."
by pam5981 on Aug 12, 2008 10:07 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Gio says Zook has a secret nickname for him, won't tell Jaymee what it is
Okay then…
by schmifty on Aug 12, 2008 10:05 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
I have a guess - reading lips during their last mound conference:
“You’re schmoopy!”
“No, YOU’RE schmoopy!”
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by Nico on Aug 12, 2008 10:11 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
?
It didn't look like a squeeze to me, in that Iwamura squared (squore? that would be a fun word) around pretty early both times
If it wasn’t a squeeze, of course, it makes the play that much dumber… If the 3Bman is playing in in that situation, it’s hard to imagine a worse call than a non-squeeze bunt.
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by mikeA on Aug 12, 2008 10:07 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
It really looked as if no one was sure what it was supposed to be
Iwamura squore early, Zobrist took off kind of lateish, and why the heck are you bunting with nobody out when the pitcher is having trouble getting outs?
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by Nico on Aug 12, 2008 10:12 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
If I had just tuned in and didn't know the players,
I would have assumed the pitcher was batting.
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by Nico on Aug 12, 2008 10:13 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
It's "squared," but I think I like squore. I support inventing new words.
by thejd44 on Aug 12, 2008 10:13 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
I couldn't falzoop more
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by Nico on Aug 12, 2008 10:14 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Bulh's one to frag one
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by Nico on Aug 12, 2008 10:20 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Zurlap. :)
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by notsellingjeans on Aug 12, 2008 11:56 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Hard to know what any of them were thinking, but it was a pretty bad play any way you cut it
The A's colors are green and gold.
by mikeA on Aug 12, 2008 10:16 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Just checked Arnold Leon's page....
Gave up 4 runs in 1 IP on July 36. Hasn’t pitched since. Anyone know anything about this? ugh…..
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by mikeA on Aug 12, 2008 10:12 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
wtf
A's v Giants "is kind of like the difference between going to see the Ramones and going to see the Bee Gees. A's fans will go see the Ramones." -BB 07/27/05
by xbhaskarx on Aug 12, 2008 10:13 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
(26)
The A's colors are green and gold.
by mikeA on Aug 12, 2008 10:13 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
26 RUNS???? That IS alarming!!!
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by Nico on Aug 12, 2008 10:14 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Does it count if you injure yourself on a day that doesn't exist?
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by Nico on Aug 12, 2008 10:13 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
The answer to your question can be found on action36.com.
I go there so much, my fingers are trained to type in “36”.
The A's colors are green and gold.
by mikeA on Aug 12, 2008 10:18 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Now that's a much more interesting question
Why on earth do you go there so much?
"There's never enough time to do all the nothing you want" -Bill Watterson
by nevermoor on Aug 13, 2008 5:57 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
ZIGGY STARDUST, ZIGGY ZEROS, ZIGGY ZILCH.
Huston WHO?
Holy Toledo!!!
by Johnny U on Aug 12, 2008 10:16 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
I like Ziggy Zeros
Or should it be spelled “zeroes”?
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by Philip Christy on Aug 12, 2008 10:17 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
It should probably be spelled "Ziggy"
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by Nico on Aug 12, 2008 10:22 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Happy birthday yesterday :-)
by green star oakland on Aug 12, 2008 10:25 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Thanks!
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by Philip Christy on Aug 12, 2008 10:28 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Yup. You're right.
Zeroes.
Or maybe … The Mark of Zero.
Ooo, I like that.
Holy Toledo!!!
by Johnny U on Aug 12, 2008 11:17 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
I just like
Stardust
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by oaklandSMASH on Aug 13, 2008 1:54 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Wow, apparently Micah Owings is one of the PTBNLs in the Adam Dunn trade.
That’s a lot to give up for a rental, isn’t it?
by mikev on Aug 12, 2008 10:19 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
Especially considering that Owings is arguably the better hitter!
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by Nico on Aug 12, 2008 10:21 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Fewer "strickouts" for sure
"There's never enough time to do all the nothing you want" -Bill Watterson
by nevermoor on Aug 13, 2008 5:57 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
do they give up major leaguers as PTBNLs?
after naming a no-name as the player named in the trade? I’ve never heard of that happening before.
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by FoolshGame22 on Aug 12, 2008 10:34 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Micah was in AAA
[Crosby] "Guy that has driven in some big runs for the A's over the years" - Vince Cotroneo
by WaddellCanseco on Aug 12, 2008 10:50 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Micah had to be a PTBNL...
because he would’ve been claimed on waivers otherwise.
Guys on the 40-man roster have to pass through waivers to be traded at this point.
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by notsellingjeans on Aug 12, 2008 11:59 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
ahhh...
that explains it.
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by FoolshGame22 on Aug 13, 2008 12:04 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Has he actually moved to the Reds yet, or is this for after the season?
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by WaddellCanseco on Aug 13, 2008 12:27 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Pretty sure it'll be after the season.
by OldhamA on Aug 13, 2008 12:33 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
It'll have to be declared after the season
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by notsellingjeans on Aug 13, 2008 12:35 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
100 million
Apparently Dunn wants a 100 million dollar deal. Maybe the A’s will ink him for 100 years.
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by miggyk2 on Aug 12, 2008 10:36 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Do the Wakefield thing - 25 $4million deals.
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by Nico on Aug 12, 2008 10:38 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
If it's 7 or 8 years that's a reasonable annual rate
If it’s 5, however, not so much.
The problem is you’re paying for some pretty old seasons at the end of a deal long enough to make $100M make sense.
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by nevermoor on Aug 13, 2008 6:00 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Huston Street postgame show coming up!
Now, what the hell is this guy gonna say now?
by mrod on Aug 12, 2008 10:22 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
You want to replace him with Ziggy there too?
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by WaddellCanseco on Aug 12, 2008 10:54 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
"Guess what, Robert? I'm learning to throw submarine!"
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by Nico on Aug 12, 2008 10:28 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Submarine is the new black
(as in clothes color.)
by MobiusKlein on Aug 12, 2008 10:54 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Minor league notes...
The Rivercats lit up Nick Adenhardt, who walked 6 in less than 5 innings. Outman pitched a scoreless inning in relief, Murton was 0-1 with 4 BB!...Carter is still at Stockton (didn’t HR), Demel pitched 1.1 scoreless with 2 Ks.
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by Nico on Aug 12, 2008 10:24 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
I'll have to check the books, but....
The A’s might have a record this year and next for fringy lefty staring pitchers.
Smith, Gio (call them fringy for the record), Eveland, Braden, Meyer, Outman, Dinardo.
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by mikeA on Aug 12, 2008 10:33 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
What's weird about "fringy" is that it doesn't rhyme with "thingy"
but in a way it should.
That’s my analysis of our left-handed pitchers.
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by Nico on Aug 12, 2008 10:35 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
"Dingy" doesn't rhyme with "dingy"
(but it does rhyme with “dinghy”).
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by iglew on Aug 12, 2008 10:42 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
there's also three fringy lefty relievers in Sacto, too.
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by notsellingjeans on Aug 13, 2008 12:00 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
it's also encouraging to see that the braintrust...
finally got the “epiphany” that Street and Embree suck, should be benched, and that Blevins, Devine and Zigs should be used where every fan saw they should be used about 4 months ago.
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by FoolshGame22 on Aug 12, 2008 10:30 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
And as usual, the fans were wrong
Rushing Blevins and Ziggy into those roles would have been a mistake and giving up on Street and Embree the moment they faltered would have been a mistake. If the A’s waited 2 weeks too long making the transition, fans were 6 weeks to early calling for it.
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by Nico on Aug 12, 2008 10:33 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
always the voice of reason...
not like it really mattered, with this putrid offense.
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by FoolshGame22 on Aug 12, 2008 10:35 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
On that, we can most definitely agree!
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by Nico on Aug 12, 2008 10:39 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
We need Dunn to throw his knuckle ball.
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by miggyk2 on Aug 12, 2008 10:45 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
I don't put the two situations together
Embree was pretty awful all year, and has been mediocre his entire career. He should’ve been pulled from his spot way sooner than Street. I think Geren did well with the Street situation, but I think he went to Embree for a few weeks (which really is like 5-7 appearances only) after it was clear he shouldn’t have been pitching meaningful innings anymore.
by thejd44 on Aug 12, 2008 10:46 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
I agree on Embree but I also wonder if Embree would have
pitched so much at that point had Casilla and Devine been healthy, or Blevins/Ziggy up pitching well. None of that was the case when the transition probably should have been made.
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by Nico on Aug 12, 2008 10:47 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
the Casilla and Devine injuries made things more difficult...
to move Embree and Street out of their positions, no doubt. And, Blevins was (and, probably still is somewhat of an unknown commodity), but I think I said early on that I feared Ziggy wouldn’t be used properly in high leverage situations and Geren would stick with the “traditional” approach.
Now, even I have to admit, Ziggy has been moved into high leverage situations faster than I thought he would be, but I suspect that is due more to the A’s being out of it than to the suckitude of Street and Embree. If we had somehow managed to remain in contention, I’d bet you Geren would have been running Street out there tonight in the 9th.
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by FoolshGame22 on Aug 12, 2008 10:58 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
I really doubt that, actually -
as poorly as Street has pitched over 7-8 appearances now and as well as Ziggy has performed, I don’t think Street would have been an automatic “save opp” guy if the team was in the race right now. Maybe Devine with Ziggy set up (which is how I’d prefer it, actually).
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by Nico on Aug 12, 2008 11:00 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
we can agree to disagree...
except I agree that Devine should be the closer and Zigs the setup guy. They’re giving Zigs the look-see right now only because they fell off the cliff. Street would have been out there blowing the save tonight if they’d been in shouting distance.
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by FoolshGame22 on Aug 12, 2008 11:03 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
If Street were as crappy as he has been, how would the team have been in
contention?
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by WaddellCanseco on Aug 12, 2008 11:09 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
what? he's only blown like... 6 saves or something
if the offense had just been half-assed decent, we could still be in contention and probably not even given him half of those save opportunities to blow.
That’s my theory.
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by FoolshGame22 on Aug 12, 2008 11:12 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
If the offense had been half assed decent and Street normal
we’d have gone maybe 13-12 instead of 4-21? So if Street blows 6 saves on top of it, we’re at maybe 9-16? We’d still be 15 games back?
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by WaddellCanseco on Aug 12, 2008 11:18 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
oh, did I say "half-assed" decent...
I meant “first-half” decent. More like 18-6 decent. Of course, that’s Halo-like dreaming. But, I’d settle for “more-games-scoring-more-than-2-runs” decent. I’m too lazy to look it up, but I wonder what our post-ASB record would be if the offense had scored more than 2 runs each game.
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by FoolshGame22 on Aug 12, 2008 11:26 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
You could probably find that answer in less than a minute.
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by Flashfire on Aug 12, 2008 11:26 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
yes, I probably could...
but, like I said… I’m lazy. And, if it doesn’t favor my argument, I don’t want to know. ;-)
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by FoolshGame22 on Aug 12, 2008 11:28 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
How about scoring their season average of about 4?
We know they won four games: 8-1, 6-5, 4-2 and 2-1.
If they scored 4, they would’ve won four more games (two of which they lost in extra innings 4-3) and would’ve at least gone to extra innings in four others.
So, instead of four wins you’re looking at eight and possibly as many as twelve.
4-19 vs. 8-15 vs. 12-11.
Change it to 3 runs a game and obviously those totals dip a bit.
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by Flashfire on Aug 12, 2008 11:39 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
yup... you're right
even 4 runs a game wouldn’t have done it. 12-11 wouldn’t have kept our guys in it with the Angels on their tear (which can’t last, right?) Our post-ASB pitching has been really crappy… 11th in the AL with a 5.28 Team ERA. I knew Eveland and Smith fell off, but I didn’t realize how really bad it’s gotten.
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by FoolshGame22 on Aug 12, 2008 11:55 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
The Angels are now 18-5 since the break
Best-case, with that 12-11 mark for the A’s they’re 12 games back. Say they split those imaginary extra inning games I mentioned and went 10-13 and they’re 14 back.
Definitely looking out of it.
As for the Angels not being able to keep it up, people have been saying that about them all season.
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by Flashfire on Aug 13, 2008 12:02 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
As Long as they fail in the playoffs
That’s all I care about.
Whatever it takes short of an atomic bomb.
I hate unproductive outs and the A's are producing them at record production
by Trainman on Aug 13, 2008 12:04 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
well, I don't want the Yanks or Red Sox, either...
it’s a dilemma. Rooting for the A’s to beat the Rays, right now. I’m very torn. Or, I guess, I could just root for some crappy NL team like the Cardinals to pull an upset. (But, I didn’t really like that, either, because that put them in 2nd place for most franchise WS championships). It’s very confusing. Especially, since I was rooting for the Angels against the Giants (Grandma, forgive me).
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by FoolshGame22 on Aug 13, 2008 12:09 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Street wouldn't have had 6 saves to blow
and some of them he’d have had more leeway in saving them. If I’m remembering correctly, most have been 1 run leads he was protecting. No margin for error.
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by DMOAS on Aug 13, 2008 8:27 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Street and Embree
Probably got some additional latitude because they were both potential trading chits and would’ve hurt their value to show the rest of the league that even their own team had no confidence in them anymore.
It wasn’t coincidental that Street was removed from his role right around Aug. 1.
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by notsellingjeans on Aug 13, 2008 12:03 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
good insight
no more losses due to Street as closer. Hear that PT? After Ziggy’s streak, that makes this season, NSJ.
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by FoolshGame22 on Aug 13, 2008 12:18 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
The fact that there is an "o" missing in that paragraph
does not change my point.
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by Nico on Aug 12, 2008 10:34 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
whats Ziggy's scoreless game streak and whats the record?
im guessing he’s much closer to the most games in a row than he is to the innings pitched in a row(65% or so there)
by TheLC on Aug 12, 2008 10:35 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
Tonight was, I believe, Ziggy's 29th appearance
He has 38 scoreless innings. The innings record is 57 (Hershiser) and I believe the “rookie record” is 41 (if I heard Ken correctly). Mike Torrez’ 42 is the A’s record for any pitcher – I don’t know if that’s just Oakland or franchise history, though.
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by Nico on Aug 12, 2008 10:38 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
thank you but whats the appearance record(s)?
where does “29 appearances in a row” fall on the list(s)?
by TheLC on Aug 12, 2008 10:42 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Hershiser reached 59
Torrez reached 37 innings in 1976 so Ziegler passed that. A story the other day said Al Benton’s relief record is 39 innings in 1949.
Hmm. Check out this interesting set of stats about Ziegler’s streak so far and some of the names in there.
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by Flashfire on Aug 12, 2008 10:42 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Sorry, I must have been thinking of Monica Torrez
She’s my Farmer’s Insurance agent and the source of the tattoo on my back.
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by Nico on Aug 12, 2008 10:46 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Oooh... she's pretty
Wait… is she riding a goat?
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by DMOAS on Aug 13, 2008 8:28 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Here’s a list of all scoreless-innings streaks of 40 innings or more. Jack Coombs pitched 53 consecutive scoreless innings for the Philadelphia Athletics back in 1910. He had a 1.30 ERA that year in 353 inning pitched.
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by Philip Christy on Aug 12, 2008 10:46 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Ziggy is gonna have to step it up to reach 353 innings...
wuss.
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by FoolshGame22 on Aug 12, 2008 10:47 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
You must really have coombed the record books for that
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by Nico on Aug 12, 2008 10:48 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Boo Nico!
That was really, really bad…....!
:)
by mrod on Aug 12, 2008 10:54 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
You want me to do a coombover?
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by Nico on Aug 12, 2008 10:55 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Oh coomb on.
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by Nico on Aug 12, 2008 10:57 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Ok, Ok.
Coolmb down.
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by Nico on Aug 12, 2008 11:01 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
No words to explain my laughter!!!!!!
by mrod on Aug 12, 2008 11:02 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
There are various records he might be setting that are extremely difficult to find (ie not anywhere on the internet)
The A's colors are green and gold.
by mikeA on Aug 12, 2008 10:45 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Have you tried obvious.com?
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by Nico on Aug 12, 2008 10:46 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
I'm never going back there after they reneged on our "Ziggy record info for 'exciting male enhancement information'" deal
The A's colors are green and gold.
by mikeA on Aug 12, 2008 10:48 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Street and Embree dead arms
To me both seems to have dead arms. Embree has not pitched good since may and Street went down hill in June. Street will be back but not till next year after a off season of rest. Embree is gone next year.
by Arcman on Aug 12, 2008 10:35 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
Maybe "dead groin" and "dead arm" but yeah.
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by Nico on Aug 12, 2008 10:39 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Isn't dead groin curable now?
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by WaddellCanseco on Aug 12, 2008 11:11 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
I could get used to seeing this
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by Flashfire on Aug 12, 2008 10:40 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
I would prefer
an ass pat.
Eveland rocks! Eveland rocks! Somewhere Drew Carey just smiled.
by miggyk2 on Aug 12, 2008 10:46 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
I'm sure you'll get to see that sooner or later
Meanwhile, I don’t have an ass pat but I do have this:
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by Flashfire on Aug 12, 2008 10:48 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
See one? I thought he was saying he wanted one
If not, miggyk2, I apologize for what must have felt like gratuitous perverted groping a moment ago.
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by Nico on Aug 12, 2008 10:49 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
I want that prostate milk back/bottled for distribution.
Eveland rocks! Eveland rocks! Somewhere Drew Carey just smiled.
by miggyk2 on Aug 12, 2008 10:56 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Is that whole milk, 2%, or "A's winning percentage"?
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by Nico on Aug 12, 2008 10:57 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
I don't know, but with a little work you can make it "D" fortified
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by miggyk2 on Aug 12, 2008 10:58 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Oh thank God - I thought you said fartified
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by Nico on Aug 12, 2008 10:59 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
No
then you would be suffering from a bout of turditis
Green Hulk Fists
by oaklandSMASH on Aug 13, 2008 1:58 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Then he'd have to
rectalfy the situation.
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by DMOAS on Aug 13, 2008 8:31 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Excellent anal ysis
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by Nico on Aug 13, 2008 8:35 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
word brother......
Couldn’t agree with you more.
by mrod on Aug 12, 2008 10:44 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
Embree pulled back??
According to sfgate Embree was on waivers and picked by the twins but the A’s pulled him back. They did trade OFer gaetti to the twins today.
by Arcman on Aug 12, 2008 10:51 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
Wow! That is out-of-the-box thinking!
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by WaddellCanseco on Aug 12, 2008 10:53 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Apparently the Twins were offering Mauer or Morneau
but the A’s held out for both and the Twins wouldn’t budge.
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by Nico on Aug 12, 2008 10:55 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
unless we threw in Emil Brown, which of course we wouldn't
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by Nico on Aug 12, 2008 10:56 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Can't we just ask for Gomez and Milledge?
Eveland rocks! Eveland rocks! Somewhere Drew Carey just smiled.
by miggyk2 on Aug 12, 2008 10:57 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
NO
Eveland rocks! Eveland rocks! Somewhere Drew Carey just smiled.
by miggyk2 on Aug 12, 2008 10:57 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Well...No.
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by Nico on Aug 12, 2008 10:57 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Slusser's just kidding. She's laughing really hard right now.
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by WaddellCanseco on Aug 12, 2008 11:12 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
We'll get the "gotcha!" in tomorrow's column
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by WaddellCanseco on Aug 12, 2008 11:32 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
No one seems to know
I haven’t seen that info anywhere.
"All your baserunner are belong to Greg Smith" ~ walk off bunt
by Philip Christy on Aug 12, 2008 11:43 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
My guess at this point would be "future considerations"
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by Flashfire on Aug 12, 2008 11:46 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
translation: Morneau
"There's never enough time to do all the nothing you want" -Bill Watterson
by nevermoor on Aug 13, 2008 6:10 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
When he's 40?
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by Flashfire on Aug 13, 2008 10:27 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Cash Considerations
Procrastinators unite....tomorrow
by muffinpryde on Aug 13, 2008 9:09 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
This might actually make sense...
...but only if you assume Embree will be a type B free agent. If Embree is a type B free agent, it wouldn’t be smart for the A’s to trade Embree unless they got the equivalent of a first round pick back for him.
Unfortunately the Twins claimed Embree and not the Mariners, so there was no way the A’s were going to get fair value for him, and thus why he was pulled.
Sometimes life will strike you out on a curve ball and the only choice you have is to flip off the umpire and walk to first base anyway.
by Threepwood XX on Aug 13, 2008 2:56 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Would you take a flyer on Gary Sheffield
If the Tigers were willing to pay half of his remaining salary?
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by miggyk2 on Aug 12, 2008 11:14 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
Isn't he like 100 years old?
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by WaddellCanseco on Aug 12, 2008 11:19 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
39
so close
Eveland rocks! Eveland rocks! Somewhere Drew Carey just smiled.
by miggyk2 on Aug 12, 2008 11:20 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Isn't that 100 in baseball years?
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by WaddellCanseco on Aug 12, 2008 11:22 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
It's about 75
"All your baserunner are belong to Greg Smith" ~ walk off bunt
by Philip Christy on Aug 12, 2008 11:22 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Right. Plus he's extra crotchety. Even for a 75 year old.
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by WaddellCanseco on Aug 12, 2008 11:28 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
wtf A's
cut the dead weight like embree/brown
unless its hope that they maybe type B picks…all they are doing is blocking mlb ready prospects
by Asfan4ever723 on Aug 12, 2008 11:16 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
Who's Embree blocking? Garcia?
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by WaddellCanseco on Aug 12, 2008 11:20 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Right.
Until they are actually blocking someone who’s ready, Brown Embree and whoever will stay.
"All your baserunner are belong to Greg Smith" ~ walk off bunt
by Philip Christy on Aug 12, 2008 11:21 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Upon further reflection, he may be blocking Outman pretty soon.
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by WaddellCanseco on Aug 12, 2008 11:31 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
not in his AAA debut tonight
but it was a blow out, so who knows..maybe they were just getting work in for outman
with all this lefty depth, there’s a chance some might end up in the bp among outman/braden/meyer etc. also there’s exclusive lefty relievers in AAA w/ kilby/wing/marshall etc
by Asfan4ever723 on Aug 12, 2008 11:42 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
He's up to AAA?
Last time I looked he was starting in Midland. Jeez these prospects are moving quickly.
by OldhamA on Aug 12, 2008 11:45 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
They grow up so fast
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by WaddellCanseco on Aug 13, 2008 12:29 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
< jairo garcia joke >
A's v Giants "is kind of like the difference between going to see the Ramones and going to see the Bee Gees. A's fans will go see the Ramones." -BB 07/27/05
by xbhaskarx on Aug 13, 2008 12:42 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
More Rotoworld fun
“Brad Ziegler pitched a perfect ninth for to pick up his second save on Wednesday night.”
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by Flashfire on Aug 12, 2008 11:18 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
Even more fun from Blottoworld:
“The Oakland Athletics today designated 1st baseman Daric Barton for assingnment. To fill his spot on the roster the A’s have signed little known FA M-Rod to stand in the team pool while sipping Coronas and stuffing his face with chips and salsa…..............he is said to have plenty of room for company”.........-AP
by mrod on Aug 12, 2008 11:29 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
Watch out for people diving in to join you
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by WaddellCanseco on Aug 12, 2008 11:33 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Just have your staple gun ready
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by WaddellCanseco on Aug 12, 2008 11:34 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Actually, I wouldn't mind having company
as long as they are of the “hot female persuasion”......
by mrod on Aug 12, 2008 11:36 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Minneosta claimed Embree of waivers and A's pulled him back
A’s management must be suffering from concussions
http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/article.cgi?f=/c/a/2008/08/12/SPDA129JBN.DTL
I hate unproductive outs and the A's are producing them at record production
by Trainman on Aug 12, 2008 11:30 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
Of course I just noticed that someone else posted it above
Oh well.
redundancy
I hate unproductive outs and the A's are producing them at record production
by Trainman on Aug 12, 2008 11:31 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
"redundancy"
kinda like the A’s offense…...
by mrod on Aug 12, 2008 11:39 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
any news/guesses on Swooney's hand/wrist/thumb?
My guess: dislocated thumb, broken wrist, or both.
There were a lot of stupid, long confusing words that I’m sure normal people don’t use. @('.')@
by monkeyball on Aug 13, 2008 12:32 AM PDT reply actions 0 recs
It would be sweet if he got a hook after the amputation
but one would think that it would hamper his hitting and throwing though
by A'sfaninNC on Aug 13, 2008 9:35 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
I think what happened is that he was tying his shoe
and tweaked the torn tendon that is in need of surgery after the season – his reaction was just that of a nerve getting a sudden pain message when you’re not expecting it. Sweeney has protected the finger best he can but there are undoubtedly movements that can bypass the “triage” he has set up. Plus, Larry Davis probably came around to say “hi” and taped the wrong finger.
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by Nico on Aug 13, 2008 8:35 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Pennington feedback?
I missed the game and saw only the boxscore…
Did Pennington get any balls in the field? Was his 0-3 a good one or an ugly one? I’d love a mini scouting report from today if anybody’s got one.
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by notsellingjeans on Aug 13, 2008 12:38 AM PDT reply actions 0 recs
Nico would probably be best to answer that...
he pays WAY more attention than I do to each AB. I saw 0-3, which is pretty much what I expected. I don’t really care if they were drilled right at somebody…. or his bad luck with BABIP. He didn’t get any hits. So, in my little world, he sucks. Until he gets a hit.
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by FoolshGame22 on Aug 13, 2008 12:50 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
He hit no balls hard. His most notable play in the field he tried to execute a 5-3 DP but
knocked down the ball and had to settle for the play at 3B.
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by WaddellCanseco on Aug 13, 2008 8:34 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Nothing exceptional in his ABs or in the field,
other than rushing a would be 5-3 DP and bobbling it so as only to get the force at third.
At the plate, two things stood out to me: He was consistently fooled by the changeup, resulting in check-swing strikes or barely holding up in time, and in his last AB he hit the ball well to CF yet it hardly carried – a sign of the “no pop” his bat is reputed to have. He did rip one foul down the left field line that would have been a double had he not been out in front.
Given the small sample, the fact that he was nervous, and the fact that he is playing outside his true position (SS), I would conclude: Nothing to conclude yet.
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by Nico on Aug 13, 2008 8:39 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
You know Hannahan's starting at third today and our
resident iron men in the middle infield won’t be giving him any at bats. It’ll be tough to conclude anything with the way he’s going to be handled.
by OldhamA on Aug 13, 2008 9:40 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Pennington's a switch hitter - I bet he'll be in there tonight
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by Nico on Aug 13, 2008 9:49 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
I still chuckle
thinking that people did not want Ziggy to take over the closer role until Street gets figured out because “he’s too valuable in the 7th and 8th”. You know what’s really valuable? Locking down wins. I’ll take wins. Good job Ziggy.
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by sprtsnwyn on Aug 13, 2008 6:57 AM PDT reply actions 0 recs
This game
Is one of the rare cases where the 9th inning was the highest leverage in the game. It’s also easy to say we should save him when we know the 7th and 8th were pitched scorelessly.
Also, the minimum leverage total for pitching the 7th and 8th with a 1 run lead (as Ziggy often does) is 7.8. The leverage total for the ninth inning is 6.6. Pitching a perfect 7th and 8th would have contributed more to the win than a perfect 9th.
Obviously last night worked out well, and the 9th was the most important single inning, but if the choice was between the 7th and 8th or the 9th (and we assume Ziggy is our best reliever) we mishandled him.
"There's never enough time to do all the nothing you want" -Bill Watterson
by nevermoor on Aug 13, 2008 7:29 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
What about 8th and 9th?
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by WaddellCanseco on Aug 13, 2008 8:34 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
In yesterday's game, of course
The 8th and 9th would be higher leverage than the 7th and 8th.
If we used him that way that would have maximized his leverage given that we got through 7 with the 1 run lead.
"There's never enough time to do all the nothing you want" -Bill Watterson
by nevermoor on Aug 13, 2008 11:26 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Given that we got through 7 with the 1 run lead -
In the 7th, the Rays had two on with nobody out. If they score 1, no save situation; if they score 2, no win.
If the choices at that point had been Embree or Ziggy, and a couple right-handed batters were coming up, who would you want called in?
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by Nico on Aug 13, 2008 11:29 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
I agree
(in fact, it was my initial point)
I would have liked to bring Ziggy in then and have him get us to the 9th (if possible). 2 on 0 out in the 7th is a very high leverage situation (see the chart I linked above).
"There's never enough time to do all the nothing you want" -Bill Watterson
by nevermoor on Aug 13, 2008 12:25 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Agreed - I think Ziggy is the kind of guy you should use
longer, less often. Let him get you out of a jam plus the next inning, meaning a lot of 1.2 inning stints, and let him rest when you don’t have the lead or has been used a lot lately. But when you do use him, use him to get you out of a jam. And the closer probably inherits messes least often of all the high-leverage relievers.
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by Nico on Aug 13, 2008 12:31 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
agreed all the way 'round
There were a lot of stupid, long confusing words that I’m sure normal people don’t use. @('.')@
by monkeyball on Aug 13, 2008 1:37 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
I couldn't agree less
There was only a save situation last night because the Rays failed with 1st-3rd nobody out in the 6th, and 1st-2nd nobody out in the 7th. Blevins did a great job in the 7th and the Rays did an exceptional job in the 6th, but if you want to win games you need to turn back those rallies and Ziggy is the best guy to do that.
Ziggy in the 7th/8th and Devine in the 9th makes way more sense than the current arrangement.
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by Nico on Aug 13, 2008 8:44 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Question about Ziggy
Does his unique motion allow him to pitch more often than the typical reliever? Do we have any quotes from him regarding fatigue as a submariner relative to the fatigue he felt when he threw overhand.
If throwing submarine also allows him to pitch more often (90-100 innings a year???), what a boondoggle that would be.
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by notsellingjeans on Aug 13, 2008 11:50 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
I haven't specifically heard with Ziggy,
but I would presume the answer is yes – it seems like all submariners are more resilient in terms of how often they can pitch. And sinkerballers tend to pitch well when “tired” so that’s another perk.
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by Nico on Aug 13, 2008 12:18 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
It was apparently a squeeze (but not a suicide squeeze)
Iwamura tried the squeeze bunt, but Zobrist was tagged out along the base line before Bartlett was picked off at second shortly after. B.J. Upton kept the inning alive with a base hit that again put runners at first and third, but Carlos Pena flied out.“As soon as I saw it down I took off—it just happened to be right at him,” Zobrist said. “At that point my job is to try to get into a rundown so that (Bartlett) can get to third base, and I wasn’t able to do that.”
http://www.kansascity.com/485/story/746219.html
"There's never enough time to do all the nothing you want" -Bill Watterson
by nevermoor on Aug 13, 2008 8:00 AM PDT reply actions 0 recs
As bad as the bunt and baserunning were,
the decision to do it at all (whether Maddon’s or Iwamura’s) was the biggest blunder.
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by Nico on Aug 13, 2008 8:47 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Yeah
Just clarifying what the terrible decision was. It sounds like the players executed a non-suicide squeeze as well as could be expected (the bunt got down, the runner broke at the right time).
"There's never enough time to do all the nothing you want" -Bill Watterson
by nevermoor on Aug 13, 2008 11:27 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Except that given the bunt was right back to the pitcher,
Zobrist could have held and left runners at second and third with one out. But what he did made sense, which was to break as soon he saw contact on the ground.
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by Nico on Aug 13, 2008 11:30 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
I'm pretty sure what he did is textbook
Suicide squeeze = run on pitch (risking double play or tagged out on whiff)
Reg. squeeze = big lead + run once the ball is bunted on the ground, make the defense make the good play
"There's never enough time to do all the nothing you want" -Bill Watterson
by nevermoor on Aug 13, 2008 12:29 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Except textbook would have been
to retreat back to third enough to force Gio to throw to third, so that when he was run towards the plate Bartlett could advance. Gio played it beautifully, though, circling around him to the home plate side so he couldn’t get past.
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by Nico on Aug 13, 2008 12:32 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
This is kinda off-topic........
is there any possible way, anyway in the universe that we could trade for Nick Markakis? OMG that would be the greatest! lol :D I guess we would have to give up an arm and a leg, literately! I was just watching him this weekend, and lordy lord he is awesome! He’s batting .302 17HR 72RBI, batting 2nd.
AHHHH! I left the stove on!!!
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by LiZaRdReVoLuTiOn on Aug 13, 2008 8:18 AM PDT reply actions 0 recs
Arm. Leg. Spleen. Genitalia.
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by WaddellCanseco on Aug 13, 2008 8:35 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
An arm and a leg would do it...
...Too bad the arm belongs to Cahill, the leg to Carlos Gonzalez. (We could probably keep the other leg, though.)
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by Nico on Aug 13, 2008 8:48 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
shucks!
AHHHH! I left the stove on!!!
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by LiZaRdReVoLuTiOn on Aug 13, 2008 9:06 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Last!!!
"I'm disappointed Ziggy didn't pump his fist towards the sky 100 times and scream like a hooker." ~Nico.
by LAXile on Aug 13, 2008 8:28 AM PDT reply actions 0 recs
So, nobody knows who Gaetti was dealt for?
by mikev on Aug 13, 2008 8:39 AM PDT reply actions 0 recs
A player to be maimed later?
I like Cindi. A. She never pretends to know more than she does. B. She has unbridled enthusiasm for her "Hotties," and isn't afraid to show it. -IM4Oakgal
by Nico on Aug 13, 2008 8:49 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Big Coronas now $12!!!
They went up a buck between homestands!
Enjoy the game
by DCinWC on Aug 13, 2008 1:49 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
I'm more excited about Big Cardenas
I like Cindi. A. She never pretends to know more than she does. B. She has unbridled enthusiasm for her "Hotties," and isn't afraid to show it. -IM4Oakgal
by Nico on Aug 13, 2008 2:19 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
I'm Hearing
Sweeny to 15 Day DL, Patterson up. I don’t have a link. I just heard it
by GusanoQuemador on Aug 13, 2008 3:40 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
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