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Monday Morning Minors Musings: When will the rebuilding end? - edition

There's no question that the big league team is in need of a major infusion of legitimate talent in virtually every area. It would seem that the powers at-be have recognized this and have responded by promoting a flurry of top prospects through the organizational ranks in recent days, perhaps with an eye towards September call-ups.

Promotions

- Vince Mazzaro made his first start for Triple-A Sacramento last Tuesday, going 5.2 innings, allowing 8 hits, 4 runs and 3 walks while tallying 5 strikeouts. It wasn't a dominating performance by any means and he took the loss, but it was a good start for a 21-year old in AAA. The 5 K's in 5 innings is especially encouraging. With a strong end to the season, Vince could position himself well for a rotation spot next Spring or as a prime trade chip as the A's (hopefully) begin serious trade talks to upgrade the offense in the off-season.

- Aaron Cunningham has now been promoted to Triple-A alongside Mazzaro, and has debuted with a bang. In his first 3 games, Aaron is 5-for-10 with a homer, 3 doubles, 2 RBIs, 5 walks and only 1 strikeout. I'll be shocked if Aaron isn't up with the big league club for most of September. He might not be the immediate .900 OPS, 30 homer right-handed bopper we all wish for, but he'd definitely help the offense immediately and has the potential to be a nice player for many years to come.

- Adrian Cardenas has been promoted to Midland from Stockton. He's performed rather well in his first week going 6-for-19 (all singles) with 2 RBIs, 1 walk and 1 strikeout. He's also been playing shortstop recently, which might be an indication that the organization is finally looking beyond the Bobby Crosby era.

- Jared Lansford and Jason Fernandez were both promoted from Stockton to Midland a little over a week ago. Both pitchers have performed relatively well in their new confines. Fernandez has a 2.51 ERA with 13 strikeouts, 8 walks and 10 hits allowed in 3 games (2 starts). Lansford has yet to a allow a run in 6 relief appearances for the Rockhounds. He's got a 10-6 K-BB ratio, 2 saves and a 2.57-to-1 groundout/flyout ratio in 12 innings. Both pitchers have good sinkers, decent control and enough upside to garner some trade interest this winter as well.

- It wasn't really a promotion, but the A's got Dusty Coleman, the Wichita State shortstop that they stole in the 28th round of this year's draft with an overslot 700-grand bonus, onto the field in a hurry. He's already played in 3 games for the AZL A's. Dusty was projected to be a 2nd or 3rd round type talent, and he plays a position of need for the organization, so you've got to be pleased that he's been brought into the fold.

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Injury News

- As per David Forst, Travis Buck has been cleared by a neurologist to resume baseball activities after suffering from an ear infection. It would certainly be an unexpected blessing if he were to somehow stay on the field for the next few weeks, get his swing back and rejoin the big club for September callups resembling the player he was at-times for the 2007 A's.

- Also according to Forst, 2008 2nd round pick Tyson Ross has reportedly successfully rehabbed his shoulder injury and could appear in a game for Kane County sometime this week. I hope Ross can be kept healthy enough the rest of the season so that he can be sent to the Instructional Leagues in the off-season, where his delivery can be completely re-worked.

- Jeff Baisley, really the only near major-league ready 3rd base prospect in the A's system, has appeared in two games so far for the AZL Athletics as he rehabs from a stress frcture in his foot. Jeff was on the verge of a major league callup after putting up an .866 OPS for Sacramento when he went down for the count way back on June 16th.

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Sacramento River Cats - 70-51, 1st Place, PCL South Division

- Cliff Pennington rode a recent hot streak to push his overall OPS over .800. If Cliff stays hot for the rest of the month, he could end his minor league season with a very odd-type of stat line: .300/.425/.400. I've said all along that Cliff has a very interesting skill set that would suit him well as a reserve infielder on a big league team. I think we'll get to see if that's true beginning around this time next month.

- Blast from the past David Shafer (the guy the A's got from the Reds for Kirk Saarloos several years back) has been working fairly regularly in the RiverCats bullpen. For what it's worth, Shafer has 13 strikeouts in 12 innings and is holding batters to a measly .163 average, however, he's walked 9 guys and given up 2 homeruns to bring his ERA to an unsightly 4.97.

Midland Rockhounds - 28-21, 2nd Place, Texas League South Division

- Josh Outman has strung two quality outings together since first struggling in his new organization. In those two outings, Josh hurled 9 innings, gave up only 1 run on 6 hits while striking out 4 without issuing a walk. Chances are he'll start a few games down the stretch run and hope to end the season on an up-note.

- James Simmons has quietly put together a solid first full professional season. He's currently 7-6 with a 3.54 ERA with a 96-23 K-BB mark in 111 innings pitched. What is the community's opinion of James? He's certainly been overshadowed by Gio, Cahill, Anderson, H-Rod and even Mazzaro but he seems to be handling the Double-A level fairly well and has been as advertised so far: great control, fairly durable innings eater. I'm a little concerned that he tends to get hit pretty hard every couple starts, but after looking at his splits, he doesn't seem to have any glaring weaknesses. I like him well enough and wouldn't mind seeing him at the back-end of a 2010 Oakland Athletics rotation.

Stockton Ports - 22-25, 3rd Place, Cal League North Division

- Top billing obviously goes to Chris Carter. The guy is a monster. He's now homered in 4 straight games and ranks 3rd in the entire minor leagues with 34 round-trippers on the year. He's playing all over the diamond as of late, at 3rd, 1st and right field.  It would certainly be nice to see if Chris could hold down a defensive position at the higher levels, but his calling card is his bat. The strikeouts remain a concern, but it's hard to dispute that the guy can flat out hit. I foresee the A's taking it slow with Carter, letting him finish the year at Stockton, and giving him most of the year next season in Double-A to gauge his development. But come 2010, if he's still producing anything remotely resembling his current season, he'll be a helluva asset to the big league team and the first homegrown right-handed power bat in ages.

- Josh Donaldson has stayed hot for the Ports and he has now surpassed 100 at-bats with his new organization. He hit a triple and a homer in Sunday's game and now has 8 homers on the season with the Ports. He's certainly a very solid catching prospect and is making Beane look like a wise man once again for picking him up while his stock was down.

- Corey Brown has picked it up a bit with the Ports in recent days. His average and OBP leave something to be desired, but he's homered 9 times in just over 100 at-bats for the Ports, has amassed 20 RBIs in 27 games and is slugging well over .500 for the season so far in Stockton. Corey's 9 to 51 BB-K ratio is pretty atrocious and at some time, he's going to need to get that in line to be considered a truly valuable prospect. He just needs a little more contact in his game to be considered a true 5-tool talent.

Kane County Cougars - 26-24, 6th Place Midwest League West

- Toddric Johnson has recovered from injury and has been giving the Cougars some semblance of offense in the past few weeks. The 2006 14th rounder is hitting fairly well in the Midwest League. He's got 10 homers, 14 RBIs and 9 steals to go along with an overall line of .282/.358/.448, which would be pretty good in the Midwest League if he wasn't 23 years old and passing through the league for the 3rd time in the last three years. Toddric was an intriguing raw power/speed prospect when drafted, and it's nice that he's helping the Cougars win some games (which they sorely need) but he's lost a bit of luster after being stalled at one spot for so long.

- MY favorite whipping boy of posts past Anthony Capra has been getting his act together slowly for the Cougars recently. He's now 2-2 with a 4.33 ERA and a 22-12 K-BB in 27 IP. He had a run of two straight quality starts before allowing 3 runs in 5 innings yesterday. Call me incredibly biased, but I'm still not sold on Capra after seeing him melt down that one time against FSU in the NCAA regionals earlier this year. He screams "middle relief lefty at best" to me and I'm still a little sore that the A's spent a 4th round choice on him this year when he probably would have been available in the 6th round.

Vancouver Canadians - 22-31, 4th Place, Northwest League West Division

- I am very proud of OFer Jeremy Barfield. A few weeks back I looked at his stats and thought, "this guy cannot take a walk to save his life." This week I checked his status and realized that he's improved his BB-K rate from about 1-to-18 a few weeks ago to 15-to-27 today. In the meantime, he's cracked 2 homers, gone 15-for-39 over his past 10 games and stolen a base. Jeremy's got nice MLB bloodlines and great size for an aspiring power hitter, and I hope he continues to make me proud as he improves on other aspects of his game in the coming weeks.

- I'm telling you guys, keep your eyes and ears open for info about RHP Ronny Morla. While the guy's traditional stats are uninspiring (1-3, 4.89 ERA) his peripherals look pretty strong to me: 53 K's in 53 IP, 2.79 K-BB rate and a 2.30 ground/air rate. He's also one of the youngest guys on the Vancouver squad and is still filling out his wiry 6'4, 180 body. Ron Romanick mentioned his name over a year ago as someone "who fills up the strikezone with quality strikes" and has great downward movement with all of his pitches. He seems to be struggling against lefties thus far in his first pro season out of the AZL, but once he gets himself acclimated, he'll be one to watch.

AZL A's

- After a couple day recess, the Rookie League A's swung back into action yesterday. My man Nino Leyja had 2 hits in 6 at-bats, but was once again listed as the team's DH in the contest. Some of Nino's luster will rub off if the organization already thinks that he can't stick at a middle infield position, even though he's only 17! Rayshun Dixon (another 17 year old) continues to show why the A's went overslot and stole him away from Mississippi State football as he continues to pound the ball with authority and show a bit more polish than the organization originally gave him credit for (.278 average, 12-39 BB-K). Chris Berroa, another recent 2008 signee, made his second appearance with the AZL team and had 3 hits in 5 at-bats with a walk while playing right field.

A's Prospects in the News

1. The 2008 USA Olympic Team (featuring Cahill and Anderson) had their Sunday exhibition with host China canceled due to rain, but are still on schedule to begin the Olympic tourney against Korea on Wednesday at 3am Pacific Time. Judging from the exhibition results, it seems as though both A's pitchers will start games for the Americans, so if you can, TiVo the games or check out the outlandishly tape-delayed "live"broadcasts to get an idea about what/whom we have to look forward to in the coming years in Oakland! USA! USA!

2. The signing deadline for 2008 draftees is approaching this Friday. I honestly don't believe the A's will sign any of the high school guys left on their draft board (Zac Elgie for instance) but as you've gathered from my past posts, I think there is a good chance they get something done with 7th rounder Brett Hunter from Pepperdine. He wants 2 million to sign, but I think the A's could talk him down to 1-and-a-half.

3. At the BA Hot Sheet Chat this week, Nathan Rode mentions that he thinks that Sean Doolittle will beat out other top 1B prospects like Beau Mills and Freddie Freeman to the majors because he's taken the biggest developmental leap this season and is already in the higher level. He also mentions that Doolittle will have a bigger impact on his major league club than the other two guys.

Probably starting next week I am going to be engaging in an e-mail dialogue with a guy over at lonestarball.com with some kind of comparative organization discussion. I do not know much about the Ranger system, so if anyone has any specific comments or questions about that system, please e-mail me (TajAdib22@yahoo.com) or post them below. Gracias!

 

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Nice report Taj

Can you tell me what M. Inoa has been up to the last month and future plans?

Rangers have had a lot of talent coming into their system the last year, with the trade with the Braves and 07 draft. This years draft was also good put they have failed to sign Smoak (who the A’s drafted 3 years ago but failed to sign) and Robbie Ross one of the top left handed high school pitchers. If they sign those guys look out!

The Rangers put up a stink when the A’s signed Inoa. What ever happened with that?

by calas on Aug 11, 2008 8:36 AM PDT reply actions   0 recs

Chris Carter

”...and the first homegrown right-handed power bat in ages.”

Is Carter considered “homegrown” if he was drafted by the White Sox, traded to the D-Backs… then traded to the A’s? Personally, I think the A’s are still trying to find their 1st homegrown Right-Handed Power Bat (since McGwire).

by Colorado Fan on Aug 11, 2008 8:38 AM PDT reply actions   0 recs

I agree on the semantics, but I wonder if it's really relevant

Honest question, because I’m not a prospect maven or a developmental/minor-league-system expert: What does it matter whether a prospect is drafted domestically, signed as a foreign FA, signed as a minor-league FA, or acquired by trade as a minor-leaguer?

There were a lot of stupid, long confusing words that I’m sure normal people don’t use. @('.')@

by monkeyball on Aug 11, 2008 10:41 AM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Honest answer:

Different means of player acquisition show different skills on the part of the organization. Amateur ballplayers are mostly evaluated through scouting, especially high schoolers and IFAs. If an organization (eg Atlanta) consistently turns those picks into major leaguers, they can be said to have a great scouting department. Trading successfully requires scouting too, but it also requires a knowledge of how to read minor league statlines to tease out the info you want on a player’s game.

So if you’re trying to evaluate the components of a GM’s regime, it’s a distinction worth making. If you’re just evaluating overall player procurement, it’s not a big deal.

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by PaulThomas on Aug 11, 2008 1:20 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

I'll buy that for a dollar

There were a lot of stupid, long confusing words that I’m sure normal people don’t use. @('.')@

by monkeyball on Aug 11, 2008 1:46 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Minor edit

If an organization (eg Oakland) consistently turns those picks into major leaguers, they can be said to have a great scouting department.

"There's never enough time to do all the nothing you want" -Bill Watterson

by nevermoor on Aug 11, 2008 2:22 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

I wouldn't really say that

Oakland doesn’t have a large enough track record with HS picks and IFAs. They’ve done well enough the few times they’ve gone that route, but it’s not a firm pattern yet.

College picks (and trade targets that were acquired with minimal pro experience, eg Daric Barton) are something of a hybrid here because their stats have some value, but not enough to really be consistently predictive.

I will say this: I think Oakland’s pitching scouts are probably as good as anyone’s. At hitting, I’m not sure they’re much better than average, though the returns from the last few drafts are fairly promising.

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by PaulThomas on Aug 11, 2008 3:10 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Tejada was home grown, right handed and a pretty decent power stick ...

and I would agree with monkeyman, in questioning why the distinction should matter …

"It's for your own good. Big strong Devo knows whats best for Poppy" -- Mossback

by devo on Aug 11, 2008 10:52 AM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

It could matter a little

I think you’d want your organization to be able to acquire talent both via trade and via direct acquisition. Hopefully, one of these days we’ll be keeping the Swishers and Harens and Hardens, not trading them for prospects.

"PECOTA can pretty much kiss my ass."-Nico

by jeepers on Aug 11, 2008 12:29 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Harden

I would have traded Harden whether we could have afforded him in free agency or not. There is just no excuse for keeping a player injured that much.

To be honest, the only player on that list that really jerks my heartstrings that we had to trade was Haren, but the insane amount of talent we got back for him almost made in a no brainer. Hell, at this point Haren straight up for Anderson might have been a fair deal, but to get offensive forces like Carter and Gonzalez, a couple middle of the rotation starters like Smith and Eveland, and a decent centerfielder like Cunningham makes the trade all the better.

I still miss Haren though…

Sometimes life will strike you out on a curve ball and the only choice you have is to flip off the umpire and walk to first base anyway.

by Threepwood XX on Aug 11, 2008 1:22 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Agree on all counts

If there is one category the A’s need to purge it’s “injured” because they can’t figure out their roster for any planning. Look at the Chavez problem now – you kind of have to simultaneously prepare for him to play 3B, 1B, DH, or not at all, because they are all legitimate possibilities.

I miss Haren, yet would make the trade again without hesitation. Arguably, Haren for Gonzalez would be a good trade for Oakland; arguably Anderson and Cunningham would too; maybe even Smith, Eveland, and Carter if things roll right. Which would mean we got triple value for him. (In fact, about double, but still…)

I like Cindi. A. She never pretends to know more than she does. B. She has unbridled enthusiasm for her "Hotties," and isn't afraid to show it. -IM4Oakgal

by Nico on Aug 11, 2008 1:44 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

As I recall you opposed the Haren trade at the time

Not trying to play “gotcha” here; no reason judgments shouldn’t be modified to fit new data as it comes in. I just remember because your reaction to the two big winter trades was the opposite of mine: you didn’t like the Haren trade but did like the Swisher trade (which is consistent with your preference for – or perhaps bias towards – pitching), while I liked the Haren deal but distrusted the Swisher trade (I disregarded Sweeney entirely, and figured the A’s would get at best one good pitcher out of the two so the trade would be no better than a wash, with an unsettlingly high chance of being Swisher for bust-bust-bust). I’ve sort of come around on the Swisher deal, given Sweeney being useful and somewhat promising (that monster HR he hit against Detroit shows that that power swing exists; if only he can now cultivate it), Gio being pretty good and the now-forgotten DLS still being a first-rate prospect in the longer term, and Swisher being just a bit less than I’d hoped.

by Faust on Aug 11, 2008 7:26 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

I don't think I was "against" the Haren trade

I was totally unfamiliar with each and every player we got back, so I had no way of assessing it. I was just stunned because I didn’t see it coming, plus Haren had three years left on a pretty affordable contract and was a #1 starter – so I did feel, “wow, we’d better have gotten a lot back”.

But if I was negative about it, it was the “fan reaction” of losing such a beloved player, not a critical analysis of the trade. All I could have said about the six guys we got was “don’t know much about them; we’ll see.” I liked the Swisher trade because I never thought Swisher was that good. Decent, but not great.

I like Cindi. A. She never pretends to know more than she does. B. She has unbridled enthusiasm for her "Hotties," and isn't afraid to show it. -IM4Oakgal

by Nico on Aug 11, 2008 9:38 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Chavez is easy

Prepare for him not to play at all. If he shows up capable, it’s a good problem to have and you find a place. But DON’T plan on him being there at all.

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by DMOAS on Aug 11, 2008 8:28 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

I saw the RiverCats play here in Vegas Friday

Cunningham’s homer might still be moving. That guy can crush.

Taj (or any of you minor-league experts): what have you heard about John Lindsey of the 51s? Are the Dodgers high on him at all? He’s put some some serious numbers . . .

by EddieVegas_NRAF on Aug 11, 2008 8:42 AM PDT reply actions   0 recs

Vegas is a ridiculous hitters' park

Pretty much disregard any stats from Las Vegas players. Lindsey isn’t really considered a prospect.

"A’s baseball….It’s almost better than a stick in the eye." ~ alox

by Gallagher's Watermelons on Aug 11, 2008 11:10 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Don't disregard them...

...put them into context.

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by Monday Fan on Aug 12, 2008 12:46 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Minor league prospects

It seems that the problem with planning solely on prospects is that, as we’ve already seen this season, a player can tear the hide off of a baseball at Triple-A, and then fizzle into mediocrity at the major league level. The A’s will also need a mix of productive free-agents who aren’t prone to injury.

by gregorymark on Aug 11, 2008 8:53 AM PDT reply actions   0 recs

no mention of hrod as a reliever now?

at least for now, it looks to be their plan

if it goes as expected, he can be fast tracked to the majors maybe by late 09. with other bp options like a carignan/demel/bailey/lansford etc

http://athletics.scout.com/2/777837.html

OC: One last question. I know that Henry Rodriguez has been pitching out of the Stockton bullpen over his last few outings. Is that where he is going to stay the rest of the year?

GP: I believe so, yes.

OC: Is that permanent, or just designed to get him a few good innings under his belt before the off-season?

GP: For the most part, my understanding at the moment is that that is the role that they see him staying in. Things can change, you know that as well as I, but I think as of right now, we are going to keep him there.

by Asfan4ever723 on Aug 11, 2008 8:57 AM PDT reply actions   0 recs

Rodriguez & Carter

I saw Rodriguez pitch Saturday night in Stockton. He was hitting 97-98 on the stadium radar gun. None of the other pitchers in action that night reached 90.

I was primarily hoping to see how Carter handles third base but he had little action. He caught a line drive hit to him but the only grounder hit in his direction was a topper he probably should have let roll. It was a tough play and he made the pick up but airmailed the throw for an error. I wish I could tell you how he looked on routine grounders and throws to first and second base but they didn’t come up. He hit another Kingman-esque homer to left, though.

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by Monday Fan on Aug 11, 2008 12:01 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

More on Carter

I forgot to mention that Carter also had a perfectly executed hit-and-run single. With runners on first and second and no outs, the Ports put the runners in motion. Carter slapped a grounder through the hole on the right side to drive in the lead runner and move the other runner over to third.

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by Monday Fan on Aug 11, 2008 12:29 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

I made the drive from Oakland to Stockton

to watch the ports on Saturday as well. Good game and it was cool seeing Carter and H-Rod play. Both lived up to expectations.

by 33SwisherSweet on Aug 11, 2008 3:44 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Great job as usual Taj. Once again I learned several new things

Regarding Simmons, it doesn’t appear that he’s broken through this year, although his control is impeccable. Fun calculation from minorleaguesplits.com:

Simmons - MLE FIP - 4.66
Rodriguez - MLE FIP - 4.53 (combining A+ and AA)

K/IP seem to be the most important thing in doing this.

Rodriguez goes to the pen. Simmons probably goes to AAA next year.

[Crosby] "Guy that has driven in some big runs for the A's over the years" - Vince Cotroneo

by WaddellCanseco on Aug 11, 2008 1:50 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Hmmm

Just went there and it still says “pitching calculator coming soon.” I wouldn’t say he’s broken through, but a 4.66 mle fip seems pretty good.

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by mikeA on Aug 11, 2008 1:57 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

I know the A's were impressed with Simmons

(as well as Cunningham) in spring training this year. That’s another reason I suspect he’ll be invited to spring training in 2009 with a “dark horse” opportunity to win the 5th spot in the rotation, and the expectation that he’ll begin the year at AAA.

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by Nico on Aug 11, 2008 1:58 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

I would assume that too

When he was drafted there was talk that he needed to improve his offspeed pitches. Haven’t really heard anything about that since. He’s a reasonable candidate for the rotation next year, but I don’t know whether they want him to keep working on stuff.

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by mikeA on Aug 11, 2008 2:10 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

I'm envisioning a rotation where

Duchscherer, Gallagher, Smith, and Gio pretty much have spots locked up, while Eveland, Braden, Meyer, and Simmons battle for the 5th spot – and if no one steps up it defaults to Eveland, with Braden to the bullpen, Simmons to AAA, and Meyer either to long relief or bye-bye-land.

I like Cindi. A. She never pretends to know more than she does. B. She has unbridled enthusiasm for her "Hotties," and isn't afraid to show it. -IM4Oakgal

by Nico on Aug 11, 2008 2:30 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Im higher on Eveland than I am on Smith.

I don’t know why.. I just am.

"With 16-year-old Dominican righty Michel Inoa in tow, Gio Gonzalez improving at Triple-A and lefty Brett Anderson carving up Double-Abatters along with Simmons and Trevor Cahill, Oakland’s pitching depthis officially the envy of baseball." - BaseballAmerica.com

by Syphon on Aug 11, 2008 2:33 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

As you probably know, I'm quite the opposite

I see Eveland as a future #5 and Smith as a future #3. I guess I think it’s a lot more likely Smith will find the outside corner than it is that Eveland will.

I like Cindi. A. She never pretends to know more than she does. B. She has unbridled enthusiasm for her "Hotties," and isn't afraid to show it. -IM4Oakgal

by Nico on Aug 11, 2008 2:34 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Well I think Im higher on Eveland because

his stuff is just better. If he has his control under control like he did earlier in the year he’s pretty good.

"With 16-year-old Dominican righty Michel Inoa in tow, Gio Gonzalez improving at Triple-A and lefty Brett Anderson carving up Double-Abatters along with Simmons and Trevor Cahill, Oakland’s pitching depthis officially the envy of baseball." - BaseballAmerica.com

by Syphon on Aug 11, 2008 2:36 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

When was it that he had his control under control?

I must have missed that inning.

I like Cindi. A. She never pretends to know more than she does. B. She has unbridled enthusiasm for her "Hotties," and isn't afraid to show it. -IM4Oakgal

by Nico on Aug 11, 2008 2:38 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Well in April and May he had

a 46:21 K:BB ratio. Had 66.1 Innings with 59 hits with an ERA right around 3.60

"With 16-year-old Dominican righty Michel Inoa in tow, Gio Gonzalez improving at Triple-A and lefty Brett Anderson carving up Double-Abatters along with Simmons and Trevor Cahill, Oakland’s pitching depthis officially the envy of baseball." - BaseballAmerica.com

by Syphon on Aug 11, 2008 2:41 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

And June was a pretty darn good month outside of his walks.

30.2 IP 29H 20BB 18Ks with a 2,64 ERA. The walks caught up with him after that. But he was pretty darn good for 3 months.

"With 16-year-old Dominican righty Michel Inoa in tow, Gio Gonzalez improving at Triple-A and lefty Brett Anderson carving up Double-Abatters along with Simmons and Trevor Cahill, Oakland’s pitching depthis officially the envy of baseball." - BaseballAmerica.com

by Syphon on Aug 11, 2008 2:43 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

I'm with you on this one

He hit the wall hard, but there’s a reason he made the team out of camp and Smith didn’t.

"There's never enough time to do all the nothing you want" -Bill Watterson

by nevermoor on Aug 11, 2008 2:45 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Time will tell...

I like Cindi. A. She never pretends to know more than she does. B. She has unbridled enthusiasm for her "Hotties," and isn't afraid to show it. -IM4Oakgal

by Nico on Aug 11, 2008 2:46 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

And if it doesn't, we can always waterboard it.

"And Julio Franco is batting right-handed!" -- Wayne Hagin, A's radio play-by-play, mid-80s

by Nick on Aug 11, 2008 6:32 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

I'm not really sanguine about Eveland or Smith long

term, but of the two I’d pick Eveland. He has a good minor league strikeout record.

[Crosby] "Guy that has driven in some big runs for the A's over the years" - Vince Cotroneo

by WaddellCanseco on Aug 11, 2008 9:04 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

His peripherals, right before he started giving up all the runs,

were pretty much the worst of anyone in his ERA range. He was giving up HRs at a very low rate, and it’s not clear that he has any real ability to do that.

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by mikeA on Aug 11, 2008 2:49 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

I dunno..

to me his peripherals seemed pretty good to me for the first 3 months.

"With 16-year-old Dominican righty Michel Inoa in tow, Gio Gonzalez improving at Triple-A and lefty Brett Anderson carving up Double-Abatters along with Simmons and Trevor Cahill, Oakland’s pitching depthis officially the envy of baseball." - BaseballAmerica.com

by Syphon on Aug 11, 2008 2:51 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

I agree on Eveland vs. Smith

but I think a #3 is a bit optimistic, and there’s a decent chance he’ll get pushed out of the rotation by Simmons/Anderson/Cahill.

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by mikeA on Aug 11, 2008 2:37 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Maybe #3-#4 is more realistic

I guess I see Smith as a #4 with #3 upside, and Gallagher as a #3 with #2 upside. So I’d count on 3-4 and hope for 2-3. If the guys you mention progress quickly enough, I could see Smith being traded in a year.

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by Nico on Aug 11, 2008 2:43 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Possibly - I'd say that like Lidle and Lilly,

if you’re counting on him as one of your “main guys” you’re in trouble, but if he’s your “luxury #4 or #5 starter” you’re in great shape. And pretty quickly, he could wind up being our #5 on a kick-ass team. Me likey that idea.

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by Nico on Aug 11, 2008 4:00 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Lilly was a lot better than Smith or even Lidle and still is.

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by WaddellCanseco on Aug 11, 2008 9:05 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Yet if he's your #2 starter,

you’re not in great shape.

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by Nico on Aug 11, 2008 9:39 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Indeed

[Crosby] "Guy that has driven in some big runs for the A's over the years" - Vince Cotroneo

by WaddellCanseco on Aug 11, 2008 9:54 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

I'm higher on Meyer

I think he’s finally arriving. I’d really like to see him get some starts

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by nevermoor on Aug 11, 2008 2:44 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Im pretty darn high on Gallagher too.

His stuff is excellent. And his done well everywhere hes been.

"With 16-year-old Dominican righty Michel Inoa in tow, Gio Gonzalez improving at Triple-A and lefty Brett Anderson carving up Double-Abatters along with Simmons and Trevor Cahill, Oakland’s pitching depthis officially the envy of baseball." - BaseballAmerica.com

by Syphon on Aug 11, 2008 2:45 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

I'm pretty darn high

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by Nico on Aug 11, 2008 2:47 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Me too

I’m pretty sure I would take Gallagher over Gio.

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by mikeA on Aug 11, 2008 2:50 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Whoa there

...and the future is now!

by gio_is_the_future on Aug 11, 2008 5:25 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

I wouldn't have guessed that, but I've thought about it.

Why Sean over Gio?

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by WaddellCanseco on Aug 11, 2008 9:06 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Sorry, I've never thought about it.

[Crosby] "Guy that has driven in some big runs for the A's over the years" - Vince Cotroneo

by WaddellCanseco on Aug 11, 2008 9:06 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

He's a rich's man Lenny DiNardo

Eveland.

The Stockton Ports pitching staff is better than the Orioles.

by gdub171 on Aug 11, 2008 4:00 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Or a medium man's Dan Meyer.

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by Nico on Aug 11, 2008 4:03 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

His "stuff" is much superior...

3 MPH on the fastball is pretty relevant. Although Smith has actually improved his velocity over the course of the season (while Eveland’s has dropped off some), which is unusual.

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by PaulThomas on Aug 11, 2008 3:13 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

I think you have to add Mazzaro to that competition

Possibly Cahill, Anderson and Simmons as well, depending on how the rest of this year and next spring go. Could get crowded.

And I’d be less willing to say anyone other than Duke (assuming he’s still here, which I hope he is) has a spot “locked up.” I’d be perfectly willing to say to Smith, for example, “Greg [and the same goes for Gio, Sean, and the rest of them], we love a lot of what you do, but you don’t throw enough strikes. Show us that you’re able and willing to throw strikes – and figure out how to do that without having too many of them disappear over the wall – and you’ll be first in line to get back to the Show.”

by Faust on Aug 11, 2008 7:44 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Since A's players are routinely broken

“Dark horse” candidates always seem to make it.

by thejd44 on Aug 12, 2008 6:09 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Hmmmm....it just worked for me again. I'm not sure what's going on.

[Crosby] "Guy that has driven in some big runs for the A's over the years" - Vince Cotroneo

by WaddellCanseco on Aug 11, 2008 9:15 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Thanks TAJ

Great report on the A’s minor league prospects. I have been a A’s fan since 1969 (I’m getting old). Always had to look at many web sites for a little bit of information on the A’s prospects. You get some good info on all the A’s players and minor league teams. The A’s are either going to be really good with these trades or a bust for a while (aka Raiders).

by jschoen1 on Aug 11, 2008 9:07 AM PDT reply actions   0 recs

Got 15 years on you having been an A's fan since their move to K.C. in 1954 when I

was 11 years old. Nice to see the team adding so much talent. Now tend to like to watch
the minor leaguers more so than the big league club. Hope Beane keeps it up and adds
another player or two of the draft picks by end of day friday this week.

Another great rundown by Taj. Thanks for the discussion.

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by Charlie Brown on Aug 11, 2008 5:43 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

More Ellis to Arizona next year talk (SF Chronicle)

Ellis a possibility for Arizona? The Diamondbacks announced that second baseman Orlando Hudson will miss the rest of the season with a wrist injury, and Arizona is likely to be looking for help at the position.

There already is talk the Diamondbacks will pursue A’s second baseman Mark Ellis when he becomes a free agent this winter, and if Ellis has cleared waivers, there is little doubt that Arizona would put in a call to the A’s sooner. If he has not been run through waivers yet, the Diamondbacks would have to hope that Ellis falls to them when he does go on the wire, but other National League contenders could block that possibility.

One major-league executive pointed out that the A’s already snared many of Arizona’s best prospects in the Dan Haren deal, so there might not be much Oakland wants. Were Ellis to leave as a free agent, the A’s are likely to receive a compensation-round draft pick for him, which might be better than what they could get from Arizona.

I hate unproductive outs and the A's are producing them at record production

by Trainman on Aug 11, 2008 9:31 AM PDT reply actions   0 recs

All that really says, though, is that Arizona will likely inquire

It doesn’t really speak to the A’s desire to move Ellis or the chances of working out an extension.

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by Nico on Aug 11, 2008 9:54 AM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Trainman

I’ve asked you to stop doing this over email, yet you continue to do so. You didn’t reply to my emails, so maybe you never got them, but still, PLEASE stop posting pieces from the Chron without linking back to it. And just post the most interesting paragraph and leave it at that.

by Tyler Bleszinski on Aug 11, 2008 11:28 AM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

OK

I apologize. I have not used that email for quite awhile.

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by Trainman on Aug 11, 2008 12:12 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

I just checked my email and there

was only a CGV from Nico on July 18th regarding the use of a bad word. Nothing about this.

Now that I know this, I will post the link in future.

Just trying to be helpful and pass on info that people may be interested in.

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by Trainman on Aug 11, 2008 12:18 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

40-Man Roster Decisions

Should be interesting to see what happens with the 40-Man Roster prior to the Rule V Draft. Who will the A’s Protect? Who will they leave unprotected? Is it too early to think about?

Free Agents: Mark Ellis, Frank Thomas, Mike Sweeney, Emil Brown

Drop Candidates: Lenny Dinardo, Dan Meyer, Jeff Gray, Wes Bankston, Brooks Conrad, Javier Herrera, Richie Robnett (Just demoted to AA-Midland)

Add Candidates: Aaron Cunningham, Jeff Baisley, Cliff Pennington, Jose Garcia, Jesus Guzman, Ryan Wing

Others?

by Colorado Fan on Aug 11, 2008 9:46 AM PDT reply actions   0 recs

Speaking of Guzman, he hasn't played since June 27th

What’s the injury and what’s the prognosis?

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by Nico on Aug 11, 2008 9:55 AM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Vertigo. Or sunscreen in his eyes.

And he’ll be dead in 48-72 hours.

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by GreenSocks on Aug 11, 2008 9:57 AM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

I'm imagining someone with vertigo AND suncreen in their eyes

and the image I’m getting is Loaiza behind the wheel.

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by Nico on Aug 11, 2008 10:15 AM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

I think they'll give Herrera another year. Robnett I don't know.

[Crosby] "Guy that has driven in some big runs for the A's over the years" - Vince Cotroneo

by WaddellCanseco on Aug 11, 2008 9:08 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

They'll keep him if they can.

High high high upside. Worth a slot.

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by Ozzz on Aug 11, 2008 11:06 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Guzman

Right quad contusion

"May a nit suck Cajun geese?" wonders Red. No, we see gnu Jack Cust in a yam.

by andeux on Aug 11, 2008 11:15 AM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Thx - do we know when he'll return?

I’m wondering whether or not he has a chance to be a Sept callup.

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by Nico on Aug 11, 2008 11:36 AM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

re: 40 man roster decisions

Ryan Webb (SP, Midland) may have a chance despite his stats because his age (22) is so attractive.

PaulThomas suggested that Recker, Midland’s catcher, will need to be protected, and I trust his judgment. He made a compelling argument about how the position is so scarce league-wide.

Could be like 4-7 guys added before the November 20th deadline.

I think we can maybe add Embree to that FA list. That $3M option is looking less attractive every appearance he makes.

"Innings eater? Depends on whether you want delicious innings or burnt, moldy innings. Kirk Saarloos is the Hot Pockets of inning eaters." - Gallagher's Watermelons

by notsellingjeans on Aug 11, 2008 11:01 AM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

I think it would be foolish to keep Embree

when Braden’s future appears brightest as a lefty specialist in the bullpen (not necessarily a LOOGY, more like Kennedy was – a guy you bring in when some lefties are due up and who can get you anywhere from 1-6 outs) and since Meyer appears to be more worth a look in long relief/spot start duty than DiNardo or Saarloos – and he has to make the big league team in order to be protected.

With Blevins, Braden, and possibly Meyer in the lefty relief mix, keeping Embree for 3 mil, instead of those guys for league minimum, just seems dumb.

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by Nico on Aug 11, 2008 11:07 AM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

No reason to keep Embree

I see absolutely no way the A’s will exercise that option. Embree will sign a minor league contract elsewhere for a lot less money. The A’s should’ve gotten rid of him last winter when his value was high. Relievers like Embree often have extreme up and down years.

by richwol1 on Aug 11, 2008 11:11 AM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

When was his value high?

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by WaddellCanseco on Aug 11, 2008 9:08 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

This past Winter it was higher than it is today

He had a solid year in 2007, including a pretty successful run as “interim closer”.

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by Nico on Aug 11, 2008 9:40 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

And Wing... and Kilby... and like three other guys...

The A’s have a ludicrous number of left-handed relief prospects. I agree—there’s no reason to use the option on Embree. Even if they offered arbitration and he accepted, he’d likely take a pay cut in doing so.

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by PaulThomas on Aug 11, 2008 1:23 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Recker

You summed up my position pretty well. Here’s the deal on Recker—the reports I’ve seen all list him as having plus-plus raw power. That’s really, really rare for a catcher. His defense isn’t too hot, but having a guy who can hit 10-15 HR a season as a backup catcher is valuable and worth using a 40-man roster spot on. He could have a Napoli-type career if things work out for him.

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by PaulThomas on Aug 11, 2008 1:27 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Sounds better than Bowen to me.

(But most things do.)

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by Nico on Aug 11, 2008 1:45 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Better than that.

He’s Piazza-esque. Both in power terms and defensively.

The only place he falls down on that comparison is batting average.

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by Ozzz on Aug 11, 2008 11:09 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Stockton Ports

Who goes to their home games? I enjoy the team, and their fine ballpark. I even belong to the Silver Sluggers. I’d like to see folks there and share A’s talk.

by LibrariAN on Aug 11, 2008 10:25 AM PDT reply actions   0 recs

I do! I do!

I go to about 10-15 Ports games per year. For the spring day games, I sit in the Comcast Club. For the Saturday night games, I usually sit in section 106 (top row).

Root for the Giants? Not even if they're playing al-Qaeda!

by Monday Fan on Aug 11, 2008 12:07 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

I Heard That Carter Got Promoted to AA:

Great report Taj

Pride And Poise!!!

by saint on Aug 11, 2008 11:56 AM PDT reply actions   0 recs

I was wondering why he hadn't yet -

I don’t want to see him rushed in any way, but he seems to have mastered A-ball pitching and proven everything he can prove at that level without running in place. Glad to see him get the chance to see AA pitching.

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by Nico on Aug 11, 2008 12:02 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

He broke the Ports all-time single season home run record this weekend. Maybe they were waiting for that. He homered Friday, Saturday, and Sunday so the record is his now.

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by Monday Fan on Aug 11, 2008 12:13 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Ive been looking and cant find anything on his promotion.

I hope its true but I cant find anything on it.

"With 16-year-old Dominican righty Michel Inoa in tow, Gio Gonzalez improving at Triple-A and lefty Brett Anderson carving up Double-Abatters along with Simmons and Trevor Cahill, Oakland’s pitching depthis officially the envy of baseball." - BaseballAmerica.com

by Syphon on Aug 11, 2008 12:04 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

"What is the community's opinion of James (Simmons)? "

I think hes a better version of Blanton.

"With 16-year-old Dominican righty Michel Inoa in tow, Gio Gonzalez improving at Triple-A and lefty Brett Anderson carving up Double-Abatters along with Simmons and Trevor Cahill, Oakland’s pitching depthis officially the envy of baseball." - BaseballAmerica.com

by Syphon on Aug 11, 2008 11:58 AM PDT reply actions   0 recs

Or a worse version or equivalent version - hard to know since he's giving up

a ton of hits to AA hitters and Blanton was actually pretty decent for a 3 year stretch.

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by Nico on Aug 11, 2008 12:03 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Ive noticed he usually pretty good but every

once in a while he will give up a lot of his, while limiting dmg pretty good. Its prob not a big concern since hes at about 100 innings and delt with a deal arm earlier in the year that that jacked up his numbers a bit. In months he was completely healthy (April and July) he posed ears of 1.13 and 2.76.

"With 16-year-old Dominican righty Michel Inoa in tow, Gio Gonzalez improving at Triple-A and lefty Brett Anderson carving up Double-Abatters along with Simmons and Trevor Cahill, Oakland’s pitching depthis officially the envy of baseball." - BaseballAmerica.com

by Syphon on Aug 11, 2008 12:07 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Wow I need to double check before I post something.

His Ears are amazing! Of course I ment ERA..

"With 16-year-old Dominican righty Michel Inoa in tow, Gio Gonzalez improving at Triple-A and lefty Brett Anderson carving up Double-Abatters along with Simmons and Trevor Cahill, Oakland’s pitching depthis officially the envy of baseball." - BaseballAmerica.com

by Syphon on Aug 11, 2008 12:10 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Simmons could detect your typos merely by the sound of your hitting the wrong keys

There were a lot of stupid, long confusing words that I’m sure normal people don’t use. @('.')@

by monkeyball on Aug 11, 2008 1:48 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Who's Left?

We are going to see the Ports Thursday in San Jose (after the A’s game.) Who is left to watch out for?

Enjoy the game

by DCinWC on Aug 11, 2008 1:18 PM PDT reply actions   0 recs

Plenty...

Spencer has been hot, Donaldson is intriguing. Mitchell is a supposed 5 tool player and you got Corey Brown!

"With 16-year-old Dominican righty Michel Inoa in tow, Gio Gonzalez improving at Triple-A and lefty Brett Anderson carving up Double-Abatters along with Simmons and Trevor Cahill, Oakland’s pitching depthis officially the envy of baseball." - BaseballAmerica.com

by Syphon on Aug 11, 2008 1:24 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

I'm actually pretty excited about Donaldson -

He was highly rated offensively last year and he has picked it back up since the trade.

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by Nico on Aug 11, 2008 1:45 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Yeah Im startig to really like this kid.

His first year for the Cubs in A- ball he put up a 1.075 OPS. Then this year he struggled for Peoria A ball.. but then caught fire in Stockton hitting for a 1.178 OPS. Giving him about an .850 OPS for his minor league career.

"With 16-year-old Dominican righty Michel Inoa in tow, Gio Gonzalez improving at Triple-A and lefty Brett Anderson carving up Double-Abatters along with Simmons and Trevor Cahill, Oakland’s pitching depthis officially the envy of baseball." - BaseballAmerica.com

by Syphon on Aug 11, 2008 1:52 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

And he's not some sleeper outperforming expectations

Wasn’t he the #2 rated catcher, offensively, by scouts last year?

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by Nico on Aug 11, 2008 1:57 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

I doubt it

That would mean he was more highly rated than Wieters or Clement (not to mention others) and I don’t think anyone sane could say that.

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by vignette17 on Aug 11, 2008 2:15 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

I thought he was second to Wieters

(at that level of competition – A ball), but I don’t recall where I read that.

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by Nico on Aug 11, 2008 2:31 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

"Second at Low-A"

is way different from “second in the minors”...

Donaldson will probably get a B- on the Sickels scale at this point if he doesn’t tank for the last three weeks, which is good, but not fabulous.

Your 2008 Athletics: It's Nothing Personal.

by PaulThomas on Aug 11, 2008 3:29 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

It's way different, but it's also good -

and most importantly, it’s what I meant, no more no less.

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by Nico on Aug 11, 2008 4:04 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

I'm pretty pleased with Donaldson's production too.

Hope he can keep it up as he shifts through the levels.

by OldhamA on Aug 11, 2008 8:21 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Corey Brown

In Saturday night’s game in Stockton, Brown smoked a homer to right and made an outstanding catch on a liner to the left-centerfield gap. That was the first time I’d ever seen him play. I was surprised to see he’s white, though I’m not sure why. It wasn’t the name—like when I saw the Brewers and expected J.J. Hardy to be black and Bill Hall to be white.

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by Monday Fan on Aug 12, 2008 12:56 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Probably thinking of Corey Patterson

I know I expected Josh Horton to be black, because both of the famous Willie Horton’s (the outfielder and the retarded criminal) were black…

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by PaulThomas on Aug 12, 2008 1:05 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Hortons

Ack. How’d that apostrophe get in there?

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by PaulThomas on Aug 12, 2008 1:06 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Maybe

Or it could have been all of descriptions of him as toolsy player. Usually when the A’s have a guy like that, he’s black and from somewhere in the Caribbean.

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by Monday Fan on Aug 12, 2008 1:16 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

And swings at slop?

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by Nico on Aug 12, 2008 5:38 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Hacks nico, hacks.

"There's never enough time to do all the nothing you want" -Bill Watterson

by nevermoor on Aug 12, 2008 7:11 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Demel, Italiano, HRod

After undergoing some sort of pitching adjustments in July, Demel is back closing again. 8 pitches last night to shut down heart of the order. Italiano showed his Kane County level of dominance in his last outing. Amazing curve ball along with the heat. HRod just flat blew them away in closing his last game. All will get their shot in 2009 or 2010.

Of all the A’s minor league pitchers, Demel and HRod have the highest K/IP.

by movetotexas on Aug 11, 2008 2:01 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

What is the scouting consensus on Demel?

I never really hear much about him.

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by Nico on Aug 11, 2008 2:08 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

MLB's draft thing says:
Demel’s been a starter and reliever in his career, but it seems almost definite his future will be in the bullpen. With a fastball in the mid-90s, a slider that can be a plus pitch and a changeup that has a split-finger type action to it, he’s got the stuff to get to the big leagues quickly, albeit with a maximum effort delivery. He could be a setup guy in a bullpen sooner rather than later.

Other reports are along the same lines.

The A's colors are green and gold.

by mikeA on Aug 11, 2008 2:12 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Sickels gave him a C+ preseason

Which is pretty big praise for an A-ball reliever prospect. A few years back when Connor Robertson struck out 15 per 9 IP, Sickels didn’t even give a grade for him. I would guess that’s because Demel has better stuff.

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by vignette17 on Aug 11, 2008 2:18 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

He's only 22 (23 in October)

so I would hope he would start at AA in 2009 and be fast-tracked if he holds up well to AA competition.

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by Nico on Aug 11, 2008 2:33 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

From BP today:

Chris Carter, 1B, High-A Stockton (Athletics)
Carter has been a Hot Sheet regular this year—when he gets hot, he really gets hot, and he’s hot again, going deep Friday, Saturday, and Sunday; he’s gone 14-for-34 with six home runs and 34 total bases in his last eight games. Now batting .273/.371/.592 for the Ports, Carter leads the California League in home runs (34), extra-base hits (65), runs (89), and RBI (97), while also holding the lead in the “most home runs by a prospect” race (only Dallas McPherson and Nelson Cruz have more in the minor leagues). Oakland continues to search for a defensive home for Carter, as he’s been seeing significant time at third base and the outfield of late, and while he’s not good at either position, with this kind of bat, it’s just not going to matter much.

Aaron Cunningham, OF, Triple-A Sacramento (Athletics)
The A’s shuffled around several players between affiliates over the past week, some involving top prospects. Newly-acquired infielder Adrian Cardenas advanced to Double-A (going 5-for-11 over the weekend), while Cunningham continued to move up, getting promoted to the Pacific Coast League after batting .317/.386/.507 for Double-A Midland. Making a strong first impression, he went 5-for-10 with three doubles, a home run, and five walks in his first three games for the RiverCats over the weekend. The best comp I’ve heard for him from a scout is that he’s a right-handed version of Travis Buck. Here’s hoping that comparison doesn’t come with the same sophomore slump, as Cunningham is lining himself up to be a legitimate contender for a big-league job next spring.

http://baseballprospectus.com/article.php?articleid=7931

"With 16-year-old Dominican righty Michel Inoa in tow, Gio Gonzalez improving at Triple-A and lefty Brett Anderson carving up Double-Abatters along with Simmons and Trevor Cahill, Oakland’s pitching depthis officially the envy of baseball." - BaseballAmerica.com

by Syphon on Aug 11, 2008 2:59 PM PDT reply actions   0 recs

Wow, that description makes Carter sound like...

...like Jack Cust! Only hopefully better, so we don’t have 1,254 fanposts debating his worth.

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by Nico on Aug 11, 2008 4:05 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Jack Cust struck out 20% more often in the minors than Chris Carter has to this point in his career ...

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by devo on Aug 11, 2008 4:54 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Woo hoo!

I like Cindi. A. She never pretends to know more than she does. B. She has unbridled enthusiasm for her "Hotties," and isn't afraid to show it. -IM4Oakgal

by Nico on Aug 11, 2008 6:07 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Sounds like Carter has some things to work on then

[Crosby] "Guy that has driven in some big runs for the A's over the years" - Vince Cotroneo

by WaddellCanseco on Aug 11, 2008 9:11 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Carter is sounding more and more like Larry Parrish to me

Tall, RH hitter with tremendous raw power, plays 3B and RF but neither one all that well.

Parrish was a very good player, and absolutely raked the A’s for years.

"And Julio Franco is batting right-handed!" -- Wayne Hagin, A's radio play-by-play, mid-80s

by Nick on Aug 11, 2008 7:54 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Let's see if anyone takes the bait....

[Crosby] "Guy that has driven in some big runs for the A's over the years" - Vince Cotroneo

by WaddellCanseco on Aug 11, 2008 9:11 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

A's released 4 players

in minors

Jose Quinonez P
Juan Villegas P
Herbert Hudson OF

Angel Sierra OF (8th rd pick in 2006)

its good that there’s cahill/sulentic around, the rest of that 06 draft isnt much…though mitchell/bailey/fernandez may be useful

http://www.thebaseballcube.com/draft/teams/2006_21.shtml

by Asfan4ever723 on Aug 11, 2008 4:27 PM PDT reply actions   0 recs

Eh?

“It’s good that it produced a top 10 prospect and a borderline top 100 guy, the rest of it isn’t much”?

From a draft with no picks higher than the second round? That’s a frigging fabulous draft.

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by PaulThomas on Aug 11, 2008 7:03 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Agreed that it's looking like a pretty solid draft so far

Maybe even without making allowances for the lack of a 1st rounder – but I don’t know who you’re referring to there.

Cahill was “a borderline top 100 guy” this past spring (Goldstein’s #98) and may move up to some top-10’s next spring if he finishes strong, but I assume you meant two different guys. And while Sulentic is OK, he isn’t going to sniff the top 100.

...OK, belatedly I see you’re paraphrasing the previous comment in a way that makes clear Sulentic is your “borderline top 100” guy. I’d say more like “borderline top 300,” but YMMV.

by Faust on Aug 11, 2008 8:09 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Carlos Hernandez may be another

Considering we didn’t have a first rounder and no sandwich picks, I’d say we did OK getting one great SP prospect (Cahill), two OK SP prospects (Fernandez and Hernandez), one relief prospect (Bailey’s been good since going to the pen), and one meh CFer (Mitchell). Once again, Billy proves adept at finding pitchers. Hitters, not so much.

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by vignette17 on Aug 11, 2008 7:06 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

rubinsierra is gonna be pissed

He lost his surname’s sake

The Stockton Ports pitching staff is better than the Orioles.

by gdub171 on Aug 11, 2008 10:59 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

I very rarely picture rubin sierra

drinking sake. Especially Sierra Sake.

"There's never enough time to do all the nothing you want" -Bill Watterson

by nevermoor on Aug 12, 2008 9:24 AM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Rivercats update -

Good news…Patterson 2 for 5 with a triple, Cunningham 2 for 4 with a HR (his second since being promoted to AAA earlier in the week).

Not so good news…Mazzaro 5 IP, 9 hits, 5 runs, 4 ER, 2 BB, 3 K.

I like Cindi. A. She never pretends to know more than she does. B. She has unbridled enthusiasm for her "Hotties," and isn't afraid to show it. -IM4Oakgal

by Nico on Aug 11, 2008 10:09 PM PDT reply actions   0 recs

I'm wondering, looking at the Rivercats infield, how effective can Mazzaro be. He is a groundball

pitcher, in an infield where groundballs seem to be kryptonite. We may have to look at peripherals like gb/fb, not go/fo, to see if they are grounders getting through, or really hard hit rockets, that noone can catch. Everyone here has been down on Patterson’s defense at 2nd, and how much has Pennington played 3rd? I may be wrong, but he doesn’t seem to have the most benificial defense for his pitching style.

by theblackpearl on Aug 12, 2008 11:07 AM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Good points

I could see the numbers being misleading in Mazzaro’s case – I hope to hear some “first hand” reports and analysis from AN’s finest scouts.

I like Cindi. A. She never pretends to know more than she does. B. She has unbridled enthusiasm for her "Hotties," and isn't afraid to show it. -IM4Oakgal

by Nico on Aug 12, 2008 5:39 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

On Ronny Morla:

The Mauler is legit. When he’s on, he’s unhittable. But he’s young and will sometimes collapse in a heap when pressure is on.

One of the few bright spots in Vancouver this year, although the arrival of Mike Lissman really sorted out a few guys who needed sorting out – Barfield among them.

Club captain – ain’t no mistaking.

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by Ozzz on Aug 11, 2008 11:11 PM PDT reply actions   0 recs

Cunningham Is Raking

Can’t wait until September to see him play in person. The outfield is looking pretty damn good next year. Move Cust to the DH slot where he belongs. If Carter could learn to play thirdbase it would solve their biggest problem. As crappy as the A’s have been lately, there is still lot to look forward to in 2009.

by Sal Bandito on Aug 11, 2008 11:47 PM PDT reply actions   0 recs

Is putting Carter at 3B like putting Cust in CF? Or is he not that horrible?

[Crosby] "Guy that has driven in some big runs for the A's over the years" - Vince Cotroneo

by WaddellCanseco on Aug 11, 2008 11:59 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Doesn't sound like he's quite that bad

I think it’s more like puttying Cust in LF, he’s not overly qualified but has enough athletic ability to get by, it’s just a matter getting consistency. Carter has been making a lot of errors but I think that’s to be expected considering he hasn’t played 3B since high school. Hopefully he can work hard over the off season and keep improving.

by DiegoAsFan on Aug 12, 2008 12:07 AM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Too bad we don't have Ron Washington around....

Root for the Giants? Not even if they're playing al-Qaeda!

by Monday Fan on Aug 12, 2008 1:03 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

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