A's Win Thanks to Ziggy, Bankston
Over the course of a 162-game schedule there are games that you're going to win that you probably shouldn't. Especially if you have good pitching and defense and play solid fundamental baseball. The A's did that tonight despite the rough night from Dana Eveland. He somehow made it through 5 1/3 innings despite giving up nine hits, four walks and zero strikeouts. He only gave up three runs because of some stellar defense behind him.
I think the difference often between a team that can hang close to a division leader and the last place team is easy. The Mariners made some very crucial mistakes tonight, possibly none bigger than Adrian Beltre not touching third base after a fly ball was caught by the A's and he scrambled to get back to second. It was the top of the fifth and at the time the M's had Beltre on second and Sexson on first with one out. Johjima flew out to Carlos Gonzalez and the A's dugout noticed that Beltre missed touching third on his way back to second. The bottom of that same inning the A's took the lead thanks to a Wes Bankston home run, a Gregorio Petit double and a Ryan Sweeney single. Then in the top of the sixth, when Eveland was in trouble again and loaded the bases with one out, The Terminator, I mean Brad Ziegler came in to induce an inning-ending double play on two pitches. Congratulations to Ziggy who will now be in the A's record books as the pitcher to go the longest to start his career in Oakland history without allowing a run.
The A's squeezed a win out Eveland, who was lucky to come out of his outing with a victory. By the way, it wasn't all that surprising that the Mariners whacked Eveland around a bit. I was looking at their stats during the game and they're hitting .283 as a team versus lefties and .248 against righties. I also wasn't surprised that the A's were getting dominated by Jarrod Washburn since they're the opposite way around, hitting better against righties than lefties. They just seem to face quite a few lefties and they're a lot more vulnerable to them since they lost Frank Thomas and Mike Sweeney.
Huston Street did make it interesting at the end with Ichiro ending the game in scoring position just itching to tie the game. But Street closed the door.
Impressively, the A's are having success with names that I didn't anticipate having a great impact on their year. Wes Bankston, Ryan Sweeney and even Ziggy. Regardless, let's make this very interesting for Billy Beane and company at the end of July.
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The Great Ziggy? Ziggy the Great? The Amazing Ziegler?
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AmaZiegler
I’m just throwing things to the wall now
Green Hulk Fists
by oaklandSMASH on Jul 7, 2008 10:14 PM PDT up reply actions
BLOOGY
“Bases loaded one out” guy.
Buaaaaa-ha-ha!!!!!
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He comes in with the bases loaded and one out,
and “Rally Over”.
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crobar
gets you out of the jam
Green Hulk Fists
by oaklandSMASH on Jul 7, 2008 10:19 PM PDT up reply actions
Is that Leonardo DiCaprio wearing a Power Glove?
Your 2008 Athletics: It's Nothing Personal.
Uh, I don't think so
It’s from “The Wizard,” starring Fred Savage. Yes, THAT Fred Savage.
Ryan Sweeney: I probably irrationally embraced him before you did.
Kid's name is Jackey Vinson
Thank you, Wikipedia.
Ryan Sweeney: I probably irrationally embraced him before you did.
major love for Patrol Craft
That was a hell of a throw to nail Bloomquist (and, finally, a great play by Zooks on the catch and tag), and a beautifully conceived and executed bunt.
... arousing men to burst the chains under which monkeyish ignorance and superstition had persuaded them to bind themselves ... @('.')@
Um yeah
I missed those thanks to MLB.TV screwing me over and deciding not to work until the third inning. The good news is that I only saw the A’s score tonight.
by Tyler Bleszinski on Jul 7, 2008 10:00 PM PDT up reply actions
Blez, go on to the video flip of the box score.
You get Fosse and Kuiper on the call, and two shots of the out at home.
I just watched it again!! “Watch this folks, it’s worth another look!”
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by One won lost won on Jul 7, 2008 10:22 PM PDT up reply actions
on Gameday, not the TV subscription MLB.tv
Gameday and its videos are free. No subscription.
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by One won lost won on Jul 7, 2008 10:23 PM PDT up reply actions
He did a better job than before -
He forced Bloomquist to slide away from the plate and didn’t leave an easy avenue in.
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throw was wide
took him away from the plate proper.
Fosse said if the throw was not offline, he would not have got him.
"I never predict anything, and I never will." Paul Gascoigne, English footballer
by One won lost won on Jul 7, 2008 10:39 PM PDT up reply actions
Nice interview with Ziegler
although Vince might set up each question with a little too much detail.
Still, when an MLB interviewee uses “naive” in the conversation, it’s a good one.
"I never predict anything, and I never will." Paul Gascoigne, English footballer
by One won lost won on Jul 7, 2008 9:59 PM PDT reply actions
BTW
Ziegler said Sexson and Beltre both “smoked” his pitches, but Sexson’s went for a DP. I don’t know HOW Ellis was exactly where he was, but, that was another “at ‘em” ball just like the A’s suffered through in Chicago, in that last game.
The baseball gods owed us that , I speculate…
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by One won lost won on Jul 7, 2008 10:08 PM PDT up reply actions
Ziggy definitely wasn't as sharp as he was in Anaheim,
which is another reason I was “jiggy with it” when Embree came in. But nice how on an off-day, Ziggy gets two DPs in two scoreless innings.
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At least he's a groundball pitcher
Usually that means a ball smoked on the ground or lined into the outfield instead of over the fence, thankfully.
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Actually, judging by his stats since he went sidearm
it would not be an exaggeration to say “always” instead of “usually.”
Your 2008 Athletics: It's Nothing Personal.
Contronio missed a good question
Sexson is something like six foot nine. Watching Ziggy try to stay in the strike zone with someone whose strike zone is so different must be really tough, particularly for someone who throws at the lower end of the strike zone. I wish Contronio had asked him about that. Just watching from behind the plate was pretty startling.
The A's haven't beaten at the Coliseum the Mariners since July 5 2007
that was a loooooong time ago!
Haven't beaten at the Coliseum the Mariners?
Somebody set us up the win
ALL YOUR BASEBALL ARE BELONG TO US
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WE ARE FOUR SCORING AND TO YOUR THREE IS!
Winning us now today.
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by Nico on Jul 7, 2008 10:32 PM PDT up reply actions 1 recs
Bankston was once a top prospect
so there’s a (small) chance that this could actually be real.
I’m hanging my beat-up hat on that possibility. It’s about the last chance for this roster to keep doing the impossible.
Your 2008 Athletics: It's Nothing Personal.
Would have been nice if 3B took
Unfortunately, he’s one more in a line of 1B/DH players.
Ryan Sweeney: I probably irrationally embraced him before you did.
Another Cust story-like line
Top prospect, then lack of success…maturity taking over.
He’s ready. I think his Dad came to the Chicago series, and getting that first hit “took a huge load off” according to Bankston, who was 0-4 in his first MLB game. He claims that the opportunity for him is now, and his mindset is, “Here it is. Got to, got to... be successful with this chance.”
I think he will pay dividends here. Not give us the AL West flag, but plenty of W’s.
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by One won lost won on Jul 7, 2008 10:12 PM PDT up reply actions
Even if he's not the real deal over time,
perhaps he have a Hannahan-like spurt of glory long enough to keep us afloat awhile.
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His size makes him a "dangerous image" at the plate, too.
unlike, say, David Eckstein, or that Angels lead-off “A’s killer with HRs”
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by One won lost won on Jul 7, 2008 10:15 PM PDT up reply actions
Maybe he can hit .215 and be our entire offense...
like Richie Sexson!
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first we have to get Hannahan up to .250 like Beltran
and then Hanny can fly out to end the games we lose.
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by One won lost won on Jul 7, 2008 10:18 PM PDT up reply actions
I assume Bankston is out of options
Since he was DFAd twice in the past year. Am I wrong on this? As well as he’s been playing, when Thomas is healthy he’s the odd man out it seems, but if he’s still producing and he’s out of options then I’d probably say option Barton. Bankston is only 24 so it’s not like he’s a real journeyman.
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by thejd44 on Jul 8, 2008 12:50 AM PDT up reply actions
The Dodgers finally caught up with the Dbacks
after Kuroda’s almost-perfect 1-hitter. The Dbacks seem to be free falling
The Dbacks are almost "inverse success"
You know how the winning clubs inevitably say, “It seems like a new guy every day, steps up and takes us to victory…”
With the D’Backs, it’s always the opposite. Someone stops hitting, then someone stops pitching for a few innings…every time out, somewhere a wheel is loose. Fix it, another one comes loose.
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by One won lost won on Jul 7, 2008 10:30 PM PDT up reply actions
True - they're really not a very good team
They’re pretty much Webb and Haren.
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Good
I hope we can get the Dodgers interested in the “Harden Sweepstakes”.
by Colorado Fan on Jul 7, 2008 11:19 PM PDT up reply actions
Um
Their pitcher was the one throwing the perfecto…
And in general, they don’t need pitching, they need hitting in the worst possible way. If anything, they should be looking to deal someone, probably Derek Lowe, for a legitimate hitter.
Your 2008 Athletics: It's Nothing Personal.
Well, then, if they need hitting in the worst possible way, we've got lots of ways to help them.
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by The Dogfather on Jul 8, 2008 7:39 AM PDT up reply actions
If only....
Thomas were healthier.. Ditto Chavez… and the bullpen had held together a bit longer.
If only Ellis and Crusby and Cust and Barton had hit 20pts higher this year—
well, then we’d stick around. As it is, the Angels are finally making their record look more like their runs differential. And then we must beat either Boston or tampa Bay, plus the Yankees, plus the Twins or Chisox, for the WC.
Too tall of an order for a team that struggles to beat the Mariners and has essentially played .500 ball since May 1. Let’s hope Billy can do his thing and stock us even deeper for next year and beyond, partic. with a bat. If An unsignable Sabathia can yield LaPorta plus three others, a admittedly injury-prone but more long-term financially doable Harden might yield a fair amount more.
Well, it's an entertaining club
winning has a LOT of entertainment value, but the fact that this team is overachieving, playing well enough to have some highlight reel moments (to offset the youthful blunders), i feel very very entertained by the success of the young guys.
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by One won lost won on Jul 7, 2008 10:33 PM PDT up reply actions
And battling - in most of their losses
they bring the tying/go-ahead run to the plate, even when it seems unlikely that they will have a shot.
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Is that Mike "K" instead of "mikev"???
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by One won lost won on Jul 7, 2008 10:41 PM PDT up reply actions
Ziggy is the shiznet!
And I was really stoked that Street worked it out in the 9th people! Wow, I think the boys in GNG could cause some Van Damage if they pull a deal for another bat in the next week or two….
The wait and see game is on A’s fans…....
M-Rod
The Weather
was magnificent tonight. Shirtsleeves all the way. Not a hint of that cold wind that often blows in from the outfield. Tomorrow night is supposed to be more of the same. Some of you folks should consider heading out there. Besides - it’s Duke vs. Silva.
Okay! On to another subject!
(07-07) 22:11 PDT – Justin Duchscherer is now a two-time All-Star and he has put up the best ERA among AL starters going into tonight’s game against the Mariners.
That makes him among the top bargains in the bigs. Duchscherer, who was arbitration-eligible for the first time last winter, is earning $1.2 million this year, and now that he’s a full-time starter, he’s looking at getting a major bump in salary this winter.
Duchscherer, however, would like to avoid the arbitration process altogether – both this year and next. Duchscherer said Monday that he hopes A’s general manager Billy Beane will be receptive to the idea of a multiyear deal.
“I mentioned to my agent (Dan Horwits) that I’d like him to talk to Billy,” Duchscherer said. “I like it in Oakland. I’d like to stay here. It’s not up to me, but I would like to get three years.”
Duchscherer, 30, has been playing professional baseball since he was 18 and he has not had a contract of more than one year. He noted that 16-year-old Dominican right-hander Michael Inoa, who got a $4.25 million bonus from Oakland last week, “has already made more than I have in my whole career. I’m not complaining, obviously, but the security (of a multiyear deal) would be nice.”
Asked about that possibility, Beane said, “The first step toward a long-term relation is doing exactly what Justin has done this year. The best thing to do is to continue on with the year he’s having and after a full, successful season, it’s probably something we could pursue.”
Alright A’s fans….......time to weigh in! I’m down to get Duke inked to at least a 3 year deal if not more! Billy, how can you not get this man signed to a multi year deal???!!!!
A multi-year deal seems like a good idea to me
I’m guessing Billy wants to see what a full season (and a little regression) may take off the sticker price.
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I think he can get a 3-year deal
So long as it doesn’t include any no-trade clause.
"Dispatch knuckleheadedness with Bond-like aplomb." –74mk
Sure. 3 years, 15M. 3rd year optional.
Duke is awesome, but guys with back issues in their history are really worrisome. Especially 30 year olds who are throwing more innings than they ever have before.
Whatever.....
The man has been a savior for this team and now he is healthy “and” performing and your objection is what???
It's a reasonble concern...
you probably shouldn’t dismiss it as “whatever.”
"We were s--, pathetic," Guillen growled early in spring training. "We hit too many home runs."
by lenscrafters on Jul 7, 2008 11:20 PM PDT up reply actions
reasonable*
"We were s--, pathetic," Guillen growled early in spring training. "We hit too many home runs."
by lenscrafters on Jul 7, 2008 11:21 PM PDT up reply actions
... That players with a history of back issues don't magically get better overnight
Ryan Sweeney: I probably irrationally embraced him before you did.
You Communist
Put flouride in the drinking water, contaminating our precious bodily fluids, and now this?
You disgust me.
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I already said what my objection was.
He’s 30, he’s missed significant time in previous seasons because of back and/or hip injuries, and he’s likely to demolish his career high IP this year.
The problem with that is?
The problem is
all of you doubt the tenacity and determination of one “Justin Duchscherer”...........
Book it people!
The only thing about Duke I doubt is
him being on the wrong side of 30 and his Hip.
When will then be now? Soon.
How am I doubting him when I am AGREEING that a 3 year deal would be just fine?
Because I don’t want it to be for 30 million dollars?
Because a guy who, basically, is starting in the majors for the first time may not keep leading the league in ERA?
If he wants stability, fine. If he wants $10M per, no thanks.
I never said
signing him to a 3 year deal was bad. And I never mentioned $$$$$$$$.........
I’m just wondering why the comments posted after mine were, “Duke? Is he worth resigning for 3 years???
How can anyone that is an A’s fan “not want” to get this deal done? That’s all I was saying….
I almost never, ever like giving a pitcher more than 3 years
Especially when he’s 30. 2 and a team option for a 3rd for Duke would be great. The money itself isn’t as big of an issue as how long you have to be obligated to the guy.
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by thejd44 on Jul 8, 2008 12:57 AM PDT up reply actions
Alright
you guys and gals just have your little “doubter” party and we’ll see Duke in another uniform next year and beyond…........that will be nice, eh???
All to frequent with our star-caliber A's
oaklandSMASH sheds a tear
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by oaklandSMASH on Jul 8, 2008 12:34 AM PDT up reply actions
Alright
going to bed now folks…...Go A’s!
Let’s hope the boys in GNG can pull out all the stops the rest of this series….....Yeehaw!!!!!
I think the difference often between a team that can hang close to a division leader and the last place team is easy. The Mariners made some very crucial mistakes tonight, possibly none bigger than Adrian Beltre not touching third base after a fly ball was caught by the A’s and he scrambled to get back to second.
No. This sort of stuff isn’t true when we have a bad game against the Angels and it isn’t true tonight. It’s just nonsense. The stuff of bored national announcers…
The A's colors are green and gold.
The difference is how wisely the team
distributes the number of runs it is allocated by the league in the annual March “run allocation” meeting.
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Bullpen use:
Tonight was a pretty good example of the idea that relievers should be used situationally, which works best even if accidentally.
My guess as to went on is that once the A’s took the lead Geren was thinking “Ziggy-Embree-Street”, as the M’s don’t have any concentration of LHHs. If the thinking had been “Embree-Ziggy-Street” because Ziggy is better than Embree, which he is, disaster would have likely befallen. Ziggy is uniquely suited to be a “get-out-of-trouble-in-a-crucial-situation” reliever as he is as much of a DP machine as any pitcher.
Therefore: I like the role he’s been put into recently as “first pitcher out of the bullpen with a lead” a LOT, and I think it should continue. Getting out of the jam that a tired SP has created is often a turning point in games, and on top of that Ziggy is a great bet to get two outs for one relative to our other relievers, whereas (relatively) he is not as great a bet to pitch a scoreless 8th than our other guys (again, relative to the other role.)
The A's colors are green and gold.
So you're saying Geren shouldn't leave Casilla in for a 2nd inning of work against a lefty
When Blevins is standing and waiting to come in to pitch?
That’s far too logical.
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by thejd44 on Jul 8, 2008 10:10 AM PDT up reply actions
nice to wake up this morning
to see that the A’s won.
MLB.com audio was not working last night. Hopefully that’s not an ongoing issue.
At my age, it's just nice to wake up this morning!
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Because even in my DREAMS,
I would say “you’re”!
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Remarkable win, especially since Eveland nor Zukes had any idea where the ball would end-up.
Long-Gon’s heave from CF was closer to a strike than some of Dana’s pitches, including some 3-0s. And that bunt was a thing of beauty—almost as pretty as Johjima’s throw in the general direction of San Leandro. Fortunately he didn’t have to extend his hammie to get to third on it.
Eveland did hang in there, but the destination of every pitch was a toss-up for all concerned.
Bump-ump Rungy (sp) was at first last night. Does that mean he’ll be calling balls and strikes tonight, or do they rotate the other way?
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Now that all that spam is gone, I really think it's time we went back...
...to a 24-hour waiting period before new accounts can create new fanposts, and they should probably be restricted to no more than one a day for the first week or so.
Waking up to half a dozen spam posts from the same new user is enough.
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Really nice win!
Unbelievable play and throw/tag from Carlos. Nice hit by Bankston. Great use of the bullpen. Bill Kreuger on FSN said that the A’s are incredibly resourceful, and it’s as if Billy Beane rubs a magic lamp and players come out and help the A’s win! Too funny! Let’s go Duke! Make it 2 in a row!
by A'sfansince1970 on Jul 8, 2008 11:30 AM PDT reply actions
The Terminator?
Reminds me more of the Taminator (Jeff Tam) :-)
Hopefully Ziggy stays jiggy longer than Jeff did though.
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