Wrap: Game 88 - White Sox 4, A's 3
by Taj Adib on Jul 6, 2008 2:12 PM PDT
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I can already hear the refrain from Bob Geren's after-game interview: "I'm proud of our guys. We put some good at-bats together and never gave up. We just came up a little short today, that's all." While technically true, the reality is that the position-player portion of the A's roster is in total shambles, the team is relying on AAAA-talent to fill out the lineup card and overall this particular manifestation of said lineup card was lucky to get even the 3 runs they got today, which they did via a huge (by Oakland standards) rally in the 6th - a leadoff double by Emil Brown, followed by single to right by Barton followed by a 2-run double down the line in left by Rob Bowen, and then added one in a desperation 9th inning rally via a seeing-eye single by MaEl after Hannahan and Suzuki had "ducksnorted" two singles through the Chicago defense.
Rich Harden looked uneven most of his abbreviated 5-inning performance. He got the first two outs of the 1st inning cleanly and efficiently, but after Gregorio Petit overthrew Barton after a routine ground ball and let the Chisox back into the inning, the wheels fell off for Rich, and he eventually walked-in a runner after loading the bases. Due to the error and subsequent 30-pitch inning, Rich was forced to bob and weave the rest of his 4-inning performance and never really looked to be in rhythm. He hit 93-94mph on his fastball a few times during the game, but was generally at 90-92 and the A's staff has to be a little concerned that this marks back-to-back unimpressive outings for Rich.
So, without the truly dominant Rich Harden on the mound and without the benefit of a major league quality-lineup, the A's predictably lost. That part of the day doesn't really concern me; but what does is the fact that with this latest wave of injuries the 2008 A's are slowly and excruciatingly turning into the 2007 A's. That being the case, I'm putting myself back into the mode that got me through that affair: looking at the bright side. Hey, Jerry Blevins pitched 1 2/3 nice innings!
It's going to be a long next week and a half through the All Star Break...
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This game..
did not seem near as close as the box score would indicate.
by VORP is too nerdy on Jul 6, 2008 2:21 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
I'd just like to
express my disappointment that the A’s couldn’t pull off the comeback against the Sox today.
Sigh. I guess we’ll just have to keep winning 16 out of 18 games.
You’ll get ‘em next time. Go A’s.
by Jesse on Jul 6, 2008 2:24 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
I'd just like to
express my disappointment that the Twins couldn’t beat the Angels today. (It could’ve been because they were beating the Indians, but still…)
I want an A's-Rays ALCS.
by FormerHuntsvilleStar on Jul 6, 2008 4:38 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
The Twins suck - I saw they lost the other day,
when was it, might have been a Tuesday? Anyway, it was sometime in the past two weeks.
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by Nico on Jul 6, 2008 4:41 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
I think I lost brain cells
after listening to the Sox announcers for half the game—especially with the repetition of the “Oh, do tell” pronunciation of O. Dotel. Shudder.
by whiteshoes40 on Jul 6, 2008 2:29 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
Well the only 2 players left on the 40 man roster, are Richie Robnett, and
Javier Herrera. If we are going to go young, might as well see what Richie can do. That is, if Sweeney, or Cargon can’t go soon.
by theblackpearl on Jul 6, 2008 2:32 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
hey, the A's outhit them...
Harden should have been out of the 1st inning after 9 pitches. 9! Instead, he lost it after the Petit error and ended up having to throw 21 more. The offense stinks, too. Even if we did outhit ‘em.
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by FoolshGame22 on Jul 6, 2008 2:32 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
Petit didn't walk anybody.
Errors happen – but Harden has control over what he does still.
by MobiusKlein on Jul 6, 2008 2:38 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
I agree, the error caused a player to be at 1st base. He had 3 batters to get one out, and the
error is inconsequential
by theblackpearl on Jul 6, 2008 2:40 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Harden also tried three times to walk Crede
before finally succeeding on “ball 6”. Hard to blame the ump, either, because he can’t simultaneously focus fully on Barton’s foot and Barton’s glove making the tag (and Quentin’s foot crossing first base). Routine play, bad throw, terrible follow-up pitching. I still think the biggest play, though, was the 0-2 pitch to Alexis Ramirez after he had flailed at three straight changeups at the ankles and then inexplicably got a fastball he could reach.
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by Nico on Jul 6, 2008 2:58 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
The next week is huge.
If we go 2-5 or worse it may be the end, no matter who comes back healthy after the All-Star Break.
The team is suffering because in part the team did not bring in a hitter through a trade in June. Everyone laughed 2 weeks ago when a poster says “the team needs to add a bat.” Well, just about any major league hitter would have started for the team over the last few games.
The biggest mistake/ bad luck was not trading a pitcher for a hitter in early June once the Sweeneys and Thomas went down.
Some would say the worst luck was everyone getting hurt at once. The team however should have adjusted to the rash of injuries
by Yellowhorse on Jul 6, 2008 2:33 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
There is NOONE here, who doesn't or didn't believe the A's needed a bat. It is what the A's would
have to give up, to get that bat is what we don’t want to deal with. The A’s are rebuilding, no matter what the record says.
by theblackpearl on Jul 6, 2008 2:36 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
The team had in early June a fully stocked corps of pitchers.
Obviously, the team could have got someone who would have started over 5 of the guys in the line-up today for one of our pitchers.
They could have got a very good hitter by trading a very good pitcher (like Harden, Duke, Street) – Which I am not saying is their best move.
They could have probably got someone for Foulke, Brown, Embree, Eveland, Smith who would be a starter ahead of guys like Hannahan, Davis, Petit, E. Brown.
by Yellowhorse on Jul 6, 2008 2:51 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
You want to trade Smith or Eveland for a bat?
That whole “go for it in 2008” mentality is precisely what the A’s are trying to avoid, since they would still likely fall short (they ain’t catching the Angels, and the wild card is always highly unpredictable). Smith and Eveland are a big part of why the A’s will be competitive from 2009-2012. “Stay the course” even when it hurts.
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by Nico on Jul 6, 2008 3:01 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
I just gave them as an example
we could have traded a veteran like Gaudin, Embree or Foulke
I was saying that the level of hitter they received would depend on the quality of pitcher we sent.
We probably could have received a decent hitter for one of the veteran relievers or Smith, Eveland.
If I was Beane I would certainly trade one of our relievers straight up for a hitter.
by Yellowhorse on Jul 6, 2008 3:07 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
How do you know, that there is a market for any of them. Foulke is probably about
to retire, Embree is 38 years old, and with all the injuries the A’s are having, there is no way Beane is trading Gaudin.
by theblackpearl on Jul 6, 2008 3:11 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
I think just about 80% of hitters rotting on the benches of the other teams
would be an improvement over Hannahan, Davis, Petit, and possibly Brown.
by Yellowhorse on Jul 6, 2008 3:15 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
That's your opinion
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by Nico on Jul 6, 2008 3:16 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
I don't understand
You laugh at Bankston and Brown in the line-up at 4,5 but you don’t think we should have tried to go out and get a hitter?
by Yellowhorse on Jul 6, 2008 3:38 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Our lineup sucks
But that doesn’t mean you trade your good young pitchers to upgrade. Waiting for Thomas to get healthy, waiting for Barton to improve – that makes more sense to me than subtracting to add when you’re really only on the fringe of contention anyway.
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by Nico on Jul 6, 2008 3:40 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Agree. I am not for trading the whole future
I just think adding a decent hitter would have been worth the hit to the pitching staff,
by Yellowhorse on Jul 6, 2008 3:42 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Great -
WHO?
The problem, as I see it, is that your wishes are abstract. A .250 hitter isn’t going to turn the offense around unless it’s a .250 hitter with good power, ideally also a good eye (or the OBP won’t be much better than Barton’s) and good defense (or you’ll have bad defense in LF and 1B).
Sexson’s available, but he doesn’t hit .250, he hits .200. Hey, I would LOVE to get Ryan Garko from the suddenly-sellers Indians, but Gaudin and Embree aren’t going to bring him to you, not even close.
Who is it that you want?
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by Nico on Jul 6, 2008 3:52 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
"Someone who's better than what we've got!"
Okay!
If this team was good enough to challenge for the World Series, I’d be in favor of moving one or two of the names that have been bandied about for a better hitter.
But, they’re not a World Series contender. Not yet. So I’m in favor of riding out the season and keeping our prospects.
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by Flashfire on Jul 6, 2008 4:16 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
We could have him play first....
Fortunately, this is his age-28 year: his killing productivity is likely to decline. Impressive range, though. -Monkeyball
by Leopold Bloom on Jul 6, 2008 4:37 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Or SS.
We could have him pitch right-handed. We could bat him 8th and have him bunt every single at-bat.
There are really so many options that I hope to see 117 Fanposts on Bonds over the next three days.
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by Nico on Jul 6, 2008 4:42 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
He could be our LOOGY!
Fortunately, this is his age-28 year: his killing productivity is likely to decline. Impressive range, though. -Monkeyball
by Leopold Bloom on Jul 6, 2008 4:43 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Make a Fanpost!
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by Nico on Jul 6, 2008 4:44 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Name 5 third baseman and shortstops rotting on benches who you would
rather have than Hannahan or Petit. You also have to take into account defense.
by theblackpearl on Jul 6, 2008 3:19 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
I'll be honest I follow the A's
I am heading out for the evening so I don’t have the time to look up on each team’s roster and find the name of a guy who is an improvement.
Also, I don’t know everyone’s contract status. So I am sure I will hear how everyone I name is untradeable.
I will say this. Kiko Calero was DFA by the A’s in June. HE was by the A’s standards their most expendable pitchers. AND HE WAS SIGNED BY ANOTHER TEAM.
My point is that the A’s could have got a hitter for one of their pitchers, or at least they should have tried.
If Beane tried to bring in a hitter for a pitcher and couldn’t then o.k.
by Yellowhorse on Jul 6, 2008 3:41 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Yeah, Calero was signed by a team that is as desperate for pitching as it gets.
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by Flashfire on Jul 6, 2008 4:17 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Calero was signed to a minor league contract...
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by PaulThomas on Jul 6, 2008 4:38 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
OK. Here are 8 guys with less than 150 at-bats who are hitting better than
Hannahan, Murphy and Petit.
I am not sure what pitcher we could have traded for any of them but here are some people who can do better than some of our infielders in the line-up.
A. Ojeda (Ariz) .302BA 100 AB
O. Infante (Atl) .275 BA 109 AB
A. Cora (Bos) .263 58 AB
R. Cedeno or M. Fonteno of Cubs. Looks like one of them will be on the bench both hitting over .250
Counsell (Mil) .238 126 AB
Tatis (Mets) .267 90 AB (can also play OF)
B. Harris (twins) .249 140 AB
I am sure there are other guys in the minors who can hit better than Hannahan as well
I am also sure that several of you will poke holes in each one of these guys abilities. Then I am also sure many of you will complain about the line-up. So I can’t win.
Also, I am not sure which team would want whatever pitcher we might have been able to trade for them.
I am done arguing about this. I will root for the A’s no matter who is on the team tomorrow, the rest of the games and into the future.
by Yellowhorse on Jul 6, 2008 10:12 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
I'm not going to poke holes in each one -
It helps to have actual players to discuss.
What I would say is, are you looking strictly at batting average? Because the guys you mention mostly hit with very little power, while Barton’s OBP is still decent (.322) compared to Tatis (OBP .295, slugging .333) – who probably has the most power of anyone on the list.
So you’re looking at replacing Barton with a player who doesn’t get on base any more than Barton and doesn’t hit with much power either. Which is to say that there’s a reason they’re available – they don’t make your lineup better.
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by Nico on Jul 6, 2008 10:23 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
No I was commenting on the current guys playing SS and 3B
I think these guys aren’t getting much playing time on their respective teams and could do better than Murphy, Hannahan and Petit.
Also, Murphy is hurt so I suppose we need someone period who can play 3B/ SS.
Would I trade an up and comer like Ziegler or Devine no. But I would consider trading Embree for one of them plus a prospect.
I would consider trading A.Brown straight up for one of them.
by Yellowhorse on Jul 6, 2008 10:38 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Not true that you can't win
I’m pleased that you took the trouble to find actual names. If only you had used a more useful stat than BA that would be a real advance to this discussion.
The problem is that BA really isn’t a good measure of how good a hitter is. Even if you don’t want to deal with the fancy advanced stats, you could at least use a basic all-around stat like OPS.
Seriously. Find some guys with better OPS than Hannahan, Petit, Murphy, and I think you’d have a real argument.
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by iglew on Jul 7, 2008 1:06 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Do you think those guys will land you
the type of hitter you’re pining for? Who do you think we could get for Gaudin and Embree, for example? And how successful do you think the team would be if they subtracted Smith or Eveland (especially when a starter inevitably goes down for a while and you have to slot in Gaudin and DiNardo or Braden)?
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by Nico on Jul 6, 2008 3:12 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
I am not saying that the A's could have got Nady or Bay for some of those guys
I do think they might have brought in someone hitting about .250.
by Yellowhorse on Jul 6, 2008 3:19 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Who? Be specific.
Who’s out there who could hit .250 with the kind of power you want that you would be willing to trade Gaudin and Embree to acquire? (Keeping in mind that Barton is extremely likely to hit .250 from now to the end of the season, but whatever.)
Who do you want?
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by Nico on Jul 6, 2008 3:37 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Why would the A's want another .250 hitter when they already have a bunch?
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by Flashfire on Jul 6, 2008 4:17 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Jayson Werth
BA .277 OBP .360 SLG .495 OPS .855 HR 11 SB 10, and he plays all 3 OF positions well.
I’m not sure… but considering the fact that he mostly platoons for the Phils and the fact that Phils just demoted Brett Myers and now feature J.A. Happ in the rotation, I think the A’s could get him for Gaudin and Embree
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by Duby on Jul 6, 2008 4:11 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
They certainly wouldn't do that before CC goes somewhere else
And I seriously doubt they’re looking to get rid of talent in a year they have a real shot at the NL East
by nevermoor on Jul 6, 2008 4:13 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
I hope I'm wrong...
But I think theres no chance the Phillies trade for Sabathia… especially if they aren’t givin an opportunity to sign him to an extension as part of the deal. I think ESPN just tosses the Phils name into the mix because its a big market team, the Phils just dont have the type of prospects to get the deal done.
Seeing as last year they made a trade for Kyle Loshe who carried a record of something like 3-10 when he was acquired, I think the Phillies are more interested in B Level starters like Gaudin and even Joe Blanton.
As far as giving up Werth, he is platooning with Geoff Jenkins in left (although Jenkins is losing at bats to him even against RH) but I know the Phillies would rather give up Werth than they would give up say, Shane Victorino who I believe is 4 years away from free agency (and wouldnt really fit the A’s needs anyway)
And I do understand that acquiring Werth might overcrowd the OF, a player of similar skills who played first or third base would be preferable in my opinion. I just hate seeing the A’s throw LH heavy lineups out there against left handed pitching.
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by Duby on Jul 6, 2008 4:27 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
The Brewers are reportedly offering Matt Laporta and 2 other prospects for CC.
by mikev on Jul 6, 2008 4:27 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Done deal
According to ESPN front page. LaPorta + two prospects not named Gamel or Escobar.
by BlameChannel53 on Jul 6, 2008 4:29 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Maybe Beane can pull off one of those
3-way deals where the other teams don’t know it’s a 3-way. We get C.C., then flip him for LaPorta…
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by Nico on Jul 6, 2008 4:30 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
I like Werth, but if you get an OF
then when Thomas is (hopefully) back you’re taking ABs away from R. Sweeney, Gonzalez, Cust, or Thomas to get Werth in there. In the short term, though, it would help.
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by Nico on Jul 6, 2008 4:13 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Also, I am nor sure that the A's GM is totally thinking rebuilding
If so why did he sign Foulke, Thomas, Sweeney and Brown.
No doubt large numbers of the fans on this site don’t want to ‘go for it in 2008’ but I am not certain the A’s management feels exactly that way.
As I see it, the team had Swisher, Kotsay and Haren over (C.Gon, R. Sweeney, Eveland, Smith, Devine) we probably have a similar record. Those trades haven’t killed us for 2008 and helped build for the future.
by Yellowhorse on Jul 6, 2008 3:13 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
They are all one year deals. You will never see a roster of all young kids
you need some veterans, and those 4 players are a combined 4 million dollars. You will not find an adequate major leaguer for that price. Not one that is worth getting, or cost 2 or 3 prospects.
by theblackpearl on Jul 6, 2008 3:15 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
He signed Foulke and Brown
because even when you’re rebuilding you need as many players as possible that can help you be as competitive as possible. He signed Sweeney and Thomas because there was no downside – no guaranteed contract with Sweeney, Thomas available for the minimum.
Rebuilding doesn’t mean only playing young guys, it means playing the young guys who are your future while you compete best you can as they develop.
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by Nico on Jul 6, 2008 3:15 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
You are right
I am just saying that Beane is not throwing in the towel yet.
I do believe that a minor trade of one of our many pitchers for a hitter would have been a good move. Especially, about 1 month ago.
by Yellowhorse on Jul 6, 2008 3:18 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
My point is that playing Barton isn't
throwing in the towel on 2008. It’s hoping he starts hitting better now, and not just in 2009.
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by Nico on Jul 6, 2008 3:38 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
a minor trade=Brook Jacoby
In 1991, the A’s had a floundering, 30 yr old third baseman hitting .214 or so, Ernest Riles. The A’s “needed a bat.”
So they went out and on July 28th, got Brook Jacoby for Lee Tinsley. Obviously, they didn’t have to give up much. Jacoby was considered good additional firepower…heck, he hit 32 home runs in 1987!
“when he hit 32 home runs for Cleveland” ...gosh, Bill King must have said that phrase at least once, in every one of Jacoby’s 199 plate appearances for the A’s.
He was hitting .234 for the Indians, and he “needed a change of scenery.” Well, he got it, and hit .213 for A’s and ZERO home runs. Zero!
Even though Jermaine Dye was a great “piece” to an A’s club that was already loaded with great hitters, the fact is, many hitters flounder when they hit a majority of the time at the Coliseum.
I always remember Brook Jacoby when someone thinks we can get “a bat” and solve the hitting woes.
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by One won lost won on Jul 6, 2008 3:48 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Sadly, I think of Dye when I think of
the “missing piece” to the current team.
R. Sweeney – LF
Ellis – 2B
Cust – DH
Dye – RF
Gonzalez – CF
Crosby – SS
Barton – 1B
Suzuki – C
Hannahan – 3B
That might actually score some runs and play some good D. Add a healthy Chavez at 3B instead of Hannahan, and you’re really in bidness!
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by Nico on Jul 6, 2008 3:55 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Ew
no. Bad Nico! No!
Fortunately, this is his age-28 year: his killing productivity is likely to decline. Impressive range, though. -Monkeyball
by Leopold Bloom on Jul 6, 2008 3:56 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
If you're going to play that game
Damon – CF
Sweeney – LF
Giambi – 1B
Dye – RF
Tejada – SS
Chavez – 3B
Cust – DH
Ellis – 2B
Suzuki – C
by nevermoor on Jul 6, 2008 4:08 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
All I mean is that Dye
is a right-handed hitting OFer with agility that would complete our lineup – and but for one ill-fated swing…Because Beane actually invested significantly money in Dye, more than he usually will in a player. We just got very unlucky with the years Dye could and couldn’t produce.
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by Nico on Jul 6, 2008 4:10 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Fair enough
That freak broken leg is what caused our “inability to win 5 game series jinx”
by nevermoor on Jul 6, 2008 4:11 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
I consider that fouled pitch
one of the turning points to the A’s run (or, “non-run”) from 2000 to 2006.
We might have kept Mulder and Hudson a couple years more if the A’s had a couple of WS appearances under their belts. And that could have meant even more post-season success.
Ah, so it goes.
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by One won lost won on Jul 6, 2008 4:30 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
But we might never have known
the magic that is Emil Brown…
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by Nico on Jul 6, 2008 4:31 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Brown and the DFA-resistant dreamcoat
Now in technicolor!
by nevermoor on Jul 6, 2008 4:32 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Emil Brown: Nearly your 2008 Oakland All-Star rep.
Or something.
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by Flashfire on Jul 6, 2008 4:33 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
I get sick everytime I see
him actually RUN in outfield. That catch yesterday literally made me throw up in my mouth a little. The guy had the range of a child’s walkie talkie when he was in Oakland. I know why, but still…when he was with us, he hit 85% of his HRs in April/May. I know why, but still…simply because the psycho you used to date has suddenly gotten sane and is making her current boyfriend happy does not negate the insanity.
But your point is well-taken. He was just the “identified problem” with me for a few years there.
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by Leopold Bloom on Jul 6, 2008 4:14 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
I think Beane made all the right calls
on him, too. I think Beane was smart to offer the extension, which would have been a steal had Dye stayed healthy. And I think given the uncertainty about Dye’s future, he was right to let Dye go elsewhere when he became a FA.
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by Nico on Jul 6, 2008 4:15 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
My opinons
on Dye are as reliable as my opinions on Bobby Crosby, who is my current IP.
Fortunately, this is his age-28 year: his killing productivity is likely to decline. Impressive range, though. -Monkeyball
by Leopold Bloom on Jul 6, 2008 4:17 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
You throw up in your mouth a lot, don't you?
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by Nico on Jul 6, 2008 4:19 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
I just throw up a lot
It seems to be a big selling point on eHarmony.
Fortunately, this is his age-28 year: his killing productivity is likely to decline. Impressive range, though. -Monkeyball
by Leopold Bloom on Jul 6, 2008 4:34 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
I saw your quote the other day:
“They were just hitting everything I was throwing up there.” Now it makes sense.
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by Nico on Jul 6, 2008 4:35 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
I remember the day in question...
very messy…lots of paper towels…
Fortunately, this is his age-28 year: his killing productivity is likely to decline. Impressive range, though. -Monkeyball
by Leopold Bloom on Jul 6, 2008 4:38 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Yet Jack Cust still struck out
He really can’t hit slop.
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by Nico on Jul 6, 2008 4:43 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
FA option was for $13 million!
I think the A’s had to go for $13million or zero, as I think there was an “extension” situation built in. The $11million for basically no output was bad enough. Gambling $13 million? No…..
"I never predict anything, and I never will." Paul Gascoigne, English footballer
by One won lost won on Jul 6, 2008 4:26 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
I'll take
Milton in right, thank you.
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by Leopold Bloom on Jul 6, 2008 4:11 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Dye was the model
of health in the gold and green.
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by Leopold Bloom on Jul 6, 2008 4:14 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
I was talking about Milton. He's been DHing in Texas,
or at least he was last time I checked. Great talent, brittle body.
by OldhamA on Jul 6, 2008 4:15 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
and we were comparing
the two. I’ll take brittle Milt versus brittle Jermaine.
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by Leopold Bloom on Jul 6, 2008 4:16 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
And Bradley doesn't want to play the outfield now.
And he’s not going to be hitting in Arlington if he’s back here.
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by Flashfire on Jul 6, 2008 4:20 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Well
in my fantasy “we kept these guys” league, Milt would play right and he would be happy to hit at the Coliseum.
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by Leopold Bloom on Jul 6, 2008 4:23 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Yeah, well.
That’s probably why it’s a fantasy.
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by Flashfire on Jul 6, 2008 4:25 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
You go around to
children’s birthday parties, popping balloons, don’t you?
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by Leopold Bloom on Jul 6, 2008 4:36 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
With Ryan Goleski in LF
and Josh Hamilton in CF. Wait, we can’t have them both. Fine, we’ll take Goleski. Aaaaaaarrrrrrgh!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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by Nico on Jul 6, 2008 4:25 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
And when you think about it
Dye was going to be a free agent. Kansas City did not want him to “haunt” them, so they traded him to a National League team, Colorado…
...for Neifi Perez!!
Dye for Neifi Perez! Incredible! No GM ever will make a trade like that...again.
Well, Dye remained a Rockie for about ten minutes, before coming back to the AL, as the A’s trade for him, for three AAA players who never amounted to Donnie Hill, combined. Dye killed KC batting for the A’s.
It would be akin to finding a Ferrari in the used car lot for $5000 because the salesman/owner is “100% for American cars” and “doesn’t like Fiats, they’re unreliable!”
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by One won lost won on Jul 6, 2008 4:37 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
(as I've previously stated
I am not unbiased at when it comes to JD), but I’d equate him to a Ferrari that runs beautifully for about two months, then stalls and refuses to start again until next spring.
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by Leopold Bloom on Jul 6, 2008 4:41 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
If it gets up to 95, it sounds more like a Harden
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by Nico on Jul 6, 2008 4:44 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Hmmm, good call...
I need another analogy.
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by Leopold Bloom on Jul 6, 2008 4:46 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
"stalls"
because it has broken piston rings on four of twelve cylinders, and will set you back $5000-$6000 for “new rings”.
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by One won lost won on Jul 6, 2008 5:54 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
the Blue Jays are useless today, too!
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by FoolshGame22 on Jul 6, 2008 2:37 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
The "today" part was nice of you
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by Nico on Jul 6, 2008 3:01 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Harden
hasn’t made nearly this many consecutive starts in how many years now? I think it’s pretty understandable that he’s hitting a bit of a wall and experiencing the dead arm syndrome. I’m not sure what the solution is, but the break might give him a good rest.
by Squeaky on Jul 6, 2008 2:50 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
I would put Harden back an extra day and send out anyone on our team or AAA
to plug in against Garland. Harden would benefit from an extra day rest. It sure would not hurt. Is there anyone in AAA we could plug in. Gaudin would only go about 3 innings because of him being so long in the pen and used so sporadic.
by Trainman on Jul 6, 2008 4:04 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Braden, Saarloos, DiNardo
Takey your pickey!
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by Nico on Jul 6, 2008 4:05 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
I think a better approach would have been
to slot Gaudin in today, skip an entire start with Harden, and have him come back fresh to face LAA. That way, no one else is messed with in the rotation and you still have Harden (rested) and Duke lined up for the Angels series.
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by Nico on Jul 6, 2008 4:06 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Especially considering
that it’s getaway day and that Gaudin’s pitched 2.1 over the last week or so.
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by Leopold Bloom on Jul 6, 2008 4:10 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
AAAA lineup?
More like AAA. Any team leading off with Rajai Davis cannot be considered a major league team.
by Laoren on Jul 6, 2008 2:57 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
But our 4-5 was Emil Brown and Wes Bankston!
I wonder how many AAA teams would bat them lower in the order?
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by Nico on Jul 6, 2008 3:02 PM PDT up reply actions 1 recs
so our AAA squad + Ellis split the series in Chicago?
Wow, our AAA team is pretty good.
by asfansince1989 on Jul 6, 2008 3:08 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
No kidding - after the disappointment
of losing the last two games of a series for the third time in a row fades, you have to admire and applaud the A’s efforts. If Ellis’ drive goes just a leeeeetle farther, or Cust squares that last ball…Ah well.
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by Nico on Jul 6, 2008 3:13 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
You know
I thought something similar as they barely lost today. They had literally two or three guys out there that would start on most teams and they almost won. They’re rebuilding. It’s the way it is. It’s nice they’re further along than we had hoped they were. But they’re rebuilding.
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by Leopold Bloom on Jul 6, 2008 4:02 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
What's sad/frustrating is that
if they had just had a normal number of injuries, plus a little more because of the players that were known risks, and could just have started R. Sweeney and C. Gonzalez all series, Casilla OR Devine recently, maybe had Thomas OR M. Sweeney some of the last month – this team could be doing really well.
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by Nico on Jul 6, 2008 4:04 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
That's very true
and it looked like they were going to there for a month or so. But they’re not. I gotta think going into July, we’re sellers, not buyers. Though with BB, you can never tell.
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by Leopold Bloom on Jul 6, 2008 4:07 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
I remember last year, I officially threw in the towel
when we heard Duke wasn’t coming back soon after all (after it looked like he might be back soon). This year it feels the same with Frank Thomas. We’re trying to tread water until he gets back, but you can hang in there for 3 weeks a lot easier than you can for 5-6.
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by Nico on Jul 6, 2008 4:09 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
I can only find "normal" when I look
at one of the selectors on my washing machine.
alaska A
by ak_A on Jul 6, 2008 4:08 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Certainly not the mirror
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by Nico on Jul 6, 2008 4:11 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
I just ran into check the mirror
it said….”fabulous”!
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by ak_A on Jul 6, 2008 4:18 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
No, that was the gay cabaret dancer
The mirror is in the living room.
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by Nico on Jul 6, 2008 4:20 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Living in Alaska,
do you have to stock up on gay cabaret dancer in the winter or…
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by Leopold Bloom on Jul 6, 2008 4:21 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
It's a buyer's market
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by Nico on Jul 6, 2008 4:24 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
what's going on?
I just came to after running into the mirror. Oh, damn, lucky me the yankees and redsox are on ESPN what a rare treat!
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by ak_A on Jul 6, 2008 6:15 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Do you have Prince Fielder in a can...?
I’d actually prefer Corey Brown, because he’s right-handed, fast, cheaper, and wouldn’t cost as much talent to get.
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by Nico on Jul 6, 2008 3:17 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
What are the odds that the Orioles would sell on Luke Scott
He isn’t as sexy a name as some (and he bats left) but still it isn’t like they’re in contention now (or anytime soon)
by nevermoor on Jul 6, 2008 3:20 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Coey Hart?
"just a beating heart ... plasma that we'll put into our uniform." - Billy Beane
by athleticsBB4life on Jul 6, 2008 3:35 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Oops, yes Hart
but I got the Corey part right. Coey is oveated.
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by Nico on Jul 6, 2008 3:38 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
um
she’s got control of him, while she’s deceiving him.
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by Leopold Bloom on Jul 6, 2008 3:59 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Seattle been playing better lately....
I could see them giving the A’s fits in this next series
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by athleticsBB4life on Jul 6, 2008 3:36 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
exactly my worry
New manager, new hitting coach, and they got Jojima on the sidelines.
I think the absolute worst thing the Mariners did this year was give Jojima a contract extension. The pitchers don’t like him, apparently, and it must have been extremely discouraging to have that announcement pour over the club-at-large.
They brought up a “prospect ” catcher, and he’s doing okay. So the rest of the club is now “lifted”.
We’ve only played them five times. Shoot, no McLaren!
"I never predict anything, and I never will." Paul Gascoigne, English footballer
by One won lost won on Jul 6, 2008 3:57 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
The opportunity, OTOH, is there -
Bedard has been scratched, and though Felix is eligible to come off the DL mid-week, the M’s haven’t announced that he will. If he is held back until the weekend, we’re facing Washburn, Silva, R. A. Dickey, and another spot starter. For opportunity, you couldn’t ask for much better over a four-game stretch.
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by Nico on Jul 6, 2008 4:02 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Good points
and truly, as a big A’s supporter, with relatives rooting for the M’s, I hope your observations “flesh out” in the real outcomes.
"I never predict anything, and I never will." Paul Gascoigne, English footballer
by One won lost won on Jul 6, 2008 4:18 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
The way I see it, the A's need to go 5-2
on this homestand somehow. That means either winning both series, or sweeping the M’s. 4-3 is ok but not great. Anything less and the A’s status as “contenders” at the ASB will be severely questionable.
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by Nico on Jul 6, 2008 4:24 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
LOL, I was going to post the very same thing
My buddy was over here and I said the A’s need to go 5-2 these last games before the break
by Trainman on Jul 6, 2008 5:07 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Great points on the Mariners
They have a good chance with the disorder of their pitching staff.
I sure hope Gonzalez and Sweeney can play. Our pitchers will keep us in every series.
I still have my fingers crossed that Frank gets a good report tomorrow and can play very soon.
Who knows, if some of the injured guys can come back right after the break we will have the good problem of too many good hitters unlike today.
by Yellowhorse on Jul 6, 2008 10:21 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
I didn't realize this initially, but
the losing pitcher, in the 15th inning, was their backup catcher.
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by Nico on Jul 6, 2008 10:23 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
I ran an errand at about 5:00
so I turned on the car radio just in time to catch the bottom of the 14th and top of the 15th. Freakin’ hilarious. Apparently Burke had pitched a couple of innings in the minors. Reminds me of the time we had to do that with Menechino. (Of course it would have been even funnier if the backup catcher had been the winning pitcher. He only gave up one run, but the M’s offense couldn’t match it.)
I never heard what’s wrong with Rhodes (the announcers didn’t know). Everyone else in the pen had been used up.
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by iglew on Jul 7, 2008 1:11 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Such a crazy day
Besides that day, the Braves played 17. Chipper went 3 for 5 with a HR and 4 (yes, 4) walks.
My all time favorite, though, was a Giants game I went to last summer (the tickets were free) where they basically assigned positions stickball style since it went extras and there were a couple injuries.
by nevermoor on Jul 7, 2008 6:49 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Isn't the 'prospect catcher actually meant to be very, very good?
by OldhamA on Jul 6, 2008 4:07 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
He is, but I don't remember..Clement? his name, or...
any of his stats. He won the game for the team with two HRs the other night.
He was up early in the season, then got demoted. Now he’s back…????
Yes, LL touts him as a Johnny Bench/Albert Puljos/Mike Piazza level player of the future.
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by One won lost won on Jul 6, 2008 4:14 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Jeff Clement. He was up earlier in the season, but struggled.
They’ve since brought him back up.
I’m no expert on stats, but his minor league numbers seem to suggest he’s pretty talented.
by OldhamA on Jul 6, 2008 4:19 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
is Jack Cust the 2nd coming of Dave Kingman?
at least everyone knew Kong had no business being in the field.
by truk on Jul 6, 2008 3:45 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
It looks like Cust
at least wants to play baseball. I was never sure with Kingman.
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by Leopold Bloom on Jul 6, 2008 4:00 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Kingman went to USC
...say no more!!
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by One won lost won on Jul 6, 2008 4:16 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
"no business"??
Out of 1941 games played, he played 1407 in the field.
at least everyone….
Do as I say, not as I do?????
"I never predict anything, and I never will." Paul Gascoigne, English footballer
by One won lost won on Jul 6, 2008 4:02 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
funny, I thought I was posting on an A's blog...
Anybody can look up stats, genius.
I was referring to his stint with the A’s. In 3 seasons, the last of his career, he was the DH in 428 of 449 games. Prior to that, he had only 18 other appearances in the AL.
But the point of my note is this: like Kingman over 20 years ago, Cust is one-dimensional. And as with Kingman, I think the A’s can do better.
by truk on Jul 6, 2008 11:23 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
mind reading
How was the statement “at least everyone” supposed to mean “his stint with the A’s”??
And what does the phrase “funny I thought I was posting on an A’s blog…” mean?
And what does the phrase, “Anybody can look up stats, genius” mean?? To me, as I suppose it was intended, the two phrases mean, “I would like to disparage you in an unclear and unspecific manner because I cannot otherwise defend my position.” It’s called an “ad hominem” attack, and while it may serve you elsewhere, in my opinion it is not appropriate on AN.
I suggest you simply spend an additional forty seconds fleshing out your opinions with a few more specifics before hitting “POST”.
"I never predict anything, and I never will." Paul Gascoigne, English footballer
by One won lost won on Jul 7, 2008 10:08 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
One won lost won, can I just remind you
that you can flag such comments (along with publicly protesting, if you want – which is fine but doesn’t replace flagging)?
Just FYI, before you posted I had already flagged the comment as a “CGV in my opinion,” but it will only be acted upon if it is also flagged by others.
I’m just reminding everyone because the revised CGV system is still less than a week old (see “Community Guidelines” link for details).
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by Nico on Jul 7, 2008 10:52 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
You thought THAT was a CGV?
That’s profoundly frightening.
Your 2008 Athletics: It's Nothing Personal.
by PaulThomas on Jul 7, 2008 11:31 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Yup - "Anybody can look up stats, genius"
is worthy of a “strike – just a warning,” IMO. If you can’t talk to your peers without putting them down, find another blog. I don’t know why it’s so difficult for some people to fathom talking to others without putting them down, explicitly or implictly. It’s just not that hard. (“That’s what she said.”)
But considering that two of the CGV examples in the CGs are, “You don’t know what you’re talking about, dumbass” and “Apparently, you’ve never seen a baseball game, or you’d know…” I’m surprised that you’re so surprised – sorry, I mean so profoundly frightened.
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by Nico on Jul 7, 2008 12:53 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Apparently, you’ve never seen a CGV, or you’d know…
He's a very personable, sweet, nice chimp. He's not going to be aggressive unless he's provoked. @('.')@
by monkeyball on Jul 7, 2008 1:57 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
.jpg)
Cust's hitting .228
scary that we expect him to carry the offense
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by athleticsBB4life on Jul 6, 2008 4:00 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
With the makeup of the A's hitters
I don’t think anyone thought Cust could do more than put up a high OBP. A 20-plus HR season, but certainly not “carry the offense” like Vlad, or Holliday.
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by One won lost won on Jul 6, 2008 4:05 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Yeah, though it's not pretty most of the time, Cust is doing his job with the bat. It's the fact few of
those around him are doing theirs. He certainly doesn’t have the talent to carry a team, nor do we expect him to.
by OldhamA on Jul 6, 2008 4:13 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Wow - the "opportunity stars" are lining up for the A's
The M’s are in the 13th inning (1-1 with Detroit), now on their 8th inning of bullpen work.
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by Nico on Jul 6, 2008 4:35 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
Tigers! Yessssssssssss!
They’re playing for pride, now!! Go Detroit!
"I never predict anything, and I never will." Paul Gascoigne, English footballer
by One won lost won on Jul 6, 2008 4:42 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
And, AN should have organized a "Welcome BACK!"
for the Athletics at the airport!!
Except, I’m not sure if they fly into Oakland….wouldn’t that be embarassing!!
"I never predict anything, and I never will." Paul Gascoigne, English footballer
by One won lost won on Jul 6, 2008 4:44 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
They'll probably fly into Sacramento out of habit
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by Nico on Jul 6, 2008 4:45 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
It's a wonderful visual.
Banners and pennants and confetti…and no team.
Fortunately, this is his age-28 year: his killing productivity is likely to decline. Impressive range, though. -Monkeyball
by Leopold Bloom on Jul 6, 2008 4:45 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Worse outcome
Plenty of cheering, and the players feel it..”Great stuff!!!”“
....until
they realize more fans at the airport than a typical game at the Coli …
then it gets
depressing
"I never predict anything, and I never will." Paul Gascoigne, English footballer
by One won lost won on Jul 6, 2008 4:47 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
People wonder why they play so well on the road
well, they’re used to playing with no one cheering…(not from lack of trying on our part, but still)
Fortunately, this is his age-28 year: his killing productivity is likely to decline. Impressive range, though. -Monkeyball
by Leopold Bloom on Jul 6, 2008 4:50 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Bitch and moan!
I recall on Thursday when Taj said we would be lucky not to be eight games out by Sunday. I say a split of the White Sox in Chicago, who were red hot, is pretty darn good. And here we are going home to face the M’s. Not too shabby. Let’s go A’s! Take care of business at home!
by A'sfansince1970 on Jul 6, 2008 4:44 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
Attaboy!
{slaps hard on ass}
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by Nico on Jul 6, 2008 4:45 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Hey!!
New rules at schools, teach!
"I never predict anything, and I never will." Paul Gascoigne, English footballer
by One won lost won on Jul 6, 2008 4:48 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Ol' Purple Lips
is gonna hafta find other digs…
Fortunately, this is his age-28 year: his killing productivity is likely to decline. Impressive range, though. -Monkeyball
by Leopold Bloom on Jul 6, 2008 4:48 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
Surely not!
Who could cheat on this lovely, charming person?
Don't blame me, I voted for Ice Cream
by Englishmajor on Jul 6, 2008 6:05 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
What's that metallic look near her mouth?
Chrome?
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by The Dogfather on Jul 7, 2008 10:10 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
I wonder
what a trade of Huston Street could bring back from the Rays. They seem to be looking for a fallback plan for Percival
I also wonder if the A’s for now wouldn’t be better off DHing Cust, playing Buck in Left, and letting Bankston play 1B
Let's have our Piazza and eat the Cust too - SPWC
by closetasfan on Jul 6, 2008 4:56 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
I think Bankston is a (great for now) mirage -
cool story, but look at what Barton and Hannahan did last year compared to now. Ride him for a week while he’s hot, while you have to anyway, but don’t get too giddy about him because he’s, well, Wes Bankston.
I still think Street, along with Blanton or Gaudin, could – or should – be attractive to Milwaukee. If I’m the Rays, I’m not really looking to change anything. But the Brewers are “close but not quite there” right now, and their pitching staff needs help.
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by Nico on Jul 6, 2008 5:00 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Even with Sabathia? Unless they are giving us Gamel they don't have much to give up anymore
by theblackpearl on Jul 6, 2008 5:13 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
No I wasn't including a C.C. trade in that thinking
I like Cindi. A. She never pretends to know more than she does. B. She has unbridled enthusiasm for her "Hotties," and isn't afraid to show it. -IM4Oakgal
by Nico on Jul 6, 2008 5:15 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Well it is official, so they don't need Blanton
by theblackpearl on Jul 6, 2008 5:23 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Yup, I hadn't seen that when I posted.
So now…let’s get LaPorta or Garko from the Indians!
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by Nico on Jul 6, 2008 5:24 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Absolutely!
But with Devine now shelved for another month, then how does losing Street help the bullpen depth?
Blanton or Gaudin, sure, but how do you replace Street?
by mrod on Jul 6, 2008 5:04 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
You would be weakening your bullpen now
to get better overall 2008-11. Casilla, Ziggy, and Embree would become your high-leverage guys right now, with Devine added whenever he’s ready. If you added a good right-handed hitter, you would wind up with more blown saves but more save opps, and you could argue the A’s would be better off to go 16/20 in save opps than to go 13/15 over the same stretch.
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by Nico on Jul 6, 2008 5:08 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Interesting
So, Gaudin or Blantom, plus Street for Hart and maybe a low level prospect?
Or is there another scenario you can put together?
by mrod on Jul 6, 2008 5:14 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
I'm not great at trade proposals, but
I would think that something with an A’s starter, Street, and Hart could be done. Of course the moment Harden goes down, losing Blanton or Gaudin stops looking so good.
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by Nico on Jul 6, 2008 5:16 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
I meant Blanton
although, he could be mistaken for….oh, nevermind!
by mrod on Jul 6, 2008 5:15 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
So now that C.C. has been dealt,
why not get LaPorta from the Indians in a trade for Blanton/Gaudin and Street. They just lost a front-end starter and Lord knows they need a closer. Or they can just give us Garko if they want.
I like Cindi. A. She never pretends to know more than she does. B. She has unbridled enthusiasm for her "Hotties," and isn't afraid to show it. -IM4Oakgal
by Nico on Jul 6, 2008 5:20 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
I'd do in a heartbeat, but I don't think Cleveland would
Meanwhile, just a quick thanks to Coco Crisp for demonstrating how I would look if I tried to hit major league pitching.
I like Cindi. A. She never pretends to know more than she does. B. She has unbridled enthusiasm for her "Hotties," and isn't afraid to show it. -IM4Oakgal
by Nico on Jul 6, 2008 5:30 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
his swing has not improved much
since yesterday, has it?
Fortunately, this is his age-28 year: his killing productivity is likely to decline. Impressive range, though. -Monkeyball
by Leopold Bloom on Jul 6, 2008 6:37 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Dude
The Indians are punting the season. You don’t trade Sabathia if you think you’re a contender.
They will probably consider dealing Garko, but with Hafner both a. on the DL and b. looking alarmingly bad even when he wasn’t on it, I wonder if they’d even do that.
And there’s no way I deal either of those guys for Ryan Garko.
Your 2008 Athletics: It's Nothing Personal.
by PaulThomas on Jul 6, 2008 10:43 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Harden blames himself for 1st inning and Cust said he hit that ball good but it didn't carry
Harden refused to blame the call - or Petit’s error - for the outcome.
“I still should have come back and thrown strikes to get myself out of it,” Harden said. “I just kind of got out of my rhythm a little bit. It wasn’t the best call, but so be it. I’ve still got to go out and do my job and get outs, and I didn’t. So, it’s my fault.”
The offense bears some of the responsibility, too. Danks (6-4) took a no-hitter into the sixth, when Petit led off with a single. Rob Bowen lined a two-run double in the seventh to bring the A’s within a run, but they stranded the bases loaded.
A.J. Pierzynski gave the White Sox insurance with a sacrifice fly in the eighth to make it 4-2, but the A’s came back again in the ninth on Mark Ellis’ RBI single with two outs against Scott Linebrink—who was subbing for injured closer Bobby Jenks.
With two aboard, Cust sent a ball to the front of the warning track.
“I got a changeup and hit it on the barrel of the bat,” Cust said. “I hit the ball really good—it just didn’t carry at the end.”
by Trainman on Jul 6, 2008 6:42 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
Too bad about the ball not carrying, because
today the ball was supposed to carry better than any of the first three days. But Ellis and Cust fell just short, one to LF and one to RF – otherwise, we might have snatched this one.
I like Cindi. A. She never pretends to know more than she does. B. She has unbridled enthusiasm for her "Hotties," and isn't afraid to show it. -IM4Oakgal
by Nico on Jul 6, 2008 6:58 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Denorfia was pulled after only 5 innings for the Rivercats today. I wonder if he is on
his way to Oakland. But he did just ground out before he left, so it could have been an injury.
by theblackpearl on Jul 6, 2008 8:13 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
"Was he injured, or is he about to replace someone who's injured?"
These are the questions A’s fans pose.
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by Nico on Jul 6, 2008 8:40 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
don't forget
“how long do we have to trade him before he gets injured?”
and
“why couldn’t it have been [insert name here] who got injured?”
by skutch on Jul 6, 2008 9:26 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
The second one, of course, is answered by,
“Who do you think {first guy} collided into?”
I like Cindi. A. She never pretends to know more than she does. B. She has unbridled enthusiasm for her "Hotties," and isn't afraid to show it. -IM4Oakgal
by Nico on Jul 6, 2008 9:47 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
ah yes, I remember it as if it were yesterday, ST 04, Cubs v A's:
Ellis and a SS not to be named converge…
by skutch on Jul 6, 2008 9:59 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
What a vicious cycle.
It’s tough to be us.
pam5981: Patience is a virtue that I do not possess.
ohtobe21likehuston: But you're good at drinking and cussing. Two out of three ain't bad.
by pam5981 on Jul 6, 2008 10:46 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Anyone else here remember the short film
“Vicious Cycles”?
In my hometown it played with Star Wars (the original) in the theaters.
(Yes, I realize most of you reading this weren’t even born yet when the first Star Wars movie was in the theaters….)
"Dispatch knuckleheadedness with Bond-like aplomb." –74mk
by iglew on Jul 7, 2008 1:22 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
AN day?
Off topic, but has anybody gotten their AN ticket yet? And who is bringing marshmallows?
by MobiusKlein on Jul 6, 2008 10:18 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
hey that whole
Adrian Beltre thing looks good right about now….l o l z
"The two of them deserve each other. One's a born liar, the other's convicted."
by SwampyD on Jul 6, 2008 11:36 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
OT: The Green and Gold is the enemy in this video
Green and Gold is South Africa who are the World Champions of Rugby with 13 wins in a row since winning World Cup. Their winning streak came to an end at the hands of the future World Champs New Zealand.
The first bit of the video is where the Kiwi takes exception to a South African so he picks the guy up and slams him. Her was reacting to some dirty play off the ball so he decided to do something about it. He got suspended for a week (not sent off) but the whole match changed from there and NZ scored 2 more TD’s and won 19-8.
There is all sorts of shit that goes on like eye gouging, testicle pulling etc. The French were famous for that. One NZ guy years ago had his scrotum ripped open. He went to the sideline had a doctor stitch him up on National TV and finished the match.
by Trainman on Jul 6, 2008 11:43 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
South Africa has an exciting team.
Staying up late to watch the 2003 RWC Final was probably the best sports experience I’ve ever had outside of baseball/football. ‘Twas crazy.
by nevermoor on Jul 7, 2008 6:54 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Future World Champions? The only thing the All Blacks are good at is choking when
the pressure is on.
by OldhamA on Jul 7, 2008 7:55 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
The problem with the All Blacks
Is that they play very high risk precision offense. It works great (and is very fun to watch) against unmotivated or untalented sides. The defense in the elimination rounds of the RWC, however, makes precision attacks about as effective as hail marys.
by nevermoor on Jul 7, 2008 9:52 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Agreed
The defense was great over the weekend.
What a finisher that Habana is. He has to be the fastest winger in the world by far.
I was watching a clip on youtube of his speed when he fields the kick, takes off then kicks ahead and scores in the corner. That was a great one. I just found it
check this one out
by Trainman on Jul 7, 2008 9:59 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
He's absolutely one of the best in the world
YTLOTM!
by nevermoor on Jul 7, 2008 10:36 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
They sure choked the last time they were in the WC
They won’t live that one down. They went into that WC a heavy favorite. I somehow don’t see them choking next time as they would get lynched at home if that happened again. There was a post mortem back home that lasted months after that shock defeat. They had slaughtered France earlier in the year by like 40 points and I think they took it for granted that they were going to do the same thing again to them.
The team they put on the field was without the best openside flanker in the world, Richie McCaw and had some new faces.
I did not expect them to beat South Africa this time. It was played in the mud so that helped the Kiwis
by Trainman on Jul 7, 2008 9:54 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Scrotum ripped open?
Chris Snyder sympathizes.
Your 2008 Athletics: It's Nothing Personal.
by PaulThomas on Jul 7, 2008 9:44 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Beat the MARINEVERS!
Every time.
That is all.
The meaning of life is not so much 'found,' as it is 'made.' --Opus
by The Dogfather on Jul 7, 2008 9:53 AM PDT reply actions 0 recs
I call them the "Marinators" to my relatives
who are local to Seattle and big “Marinators” fans….
Then, after saying “marinators” a few times, I say, “I’m gonna shorten ‘marinators’ to simply ‘chefs’. Yeah, the Seattle Chefs…that’s a gooood name!”
"I never predict anything, and I never will." Paul Gascoigne, English footballer
by One won lost won on Jul 7, 2008 10:12 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Cubs apparently want Harden (Chicago Sun Times)
The Cubs have spent a lot of time on the phone recently with Oakland Athletics general manager Billy Beane trying to pry away right-hander Rich Harden. Expect the phone lines to start burning a little hotter beginning today.
Beane’s in a tough spot. This season was supposed to be about rebuilding - at least, that’s what he told us last winter after dealing pitcher Dan Haren to the Arizona Diamondbacks and outfielder Nick Swisher to the White Sox for a combined nine prospects, including five starting pitchers. Then the A’s - even after dropping two straight to the White Sox over the weekend—made a run in the watered-down AL West, sitting six games behind the fragile Los Angeles Angels.
Now seems like a bad time for Beane to pull the trigger, no matter how much the Cubs call.
_____________
Please don’t trade an almost automatic win
by Trainman on Jul 7, 2008 10:17 AM PDT reply actions 0 recs
Depends entirely on what the Cubs are saying when the call
As far as almost automatic win, there’s a sample size issue. There’s a reason a guy as talented as Rich has yet to notch his 40th win.
by nevermoor on Jul 7, 2008 10:38 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
It is a tough call -
trading Harden effectively concedes the 2008 season while the A’s are currently within 3 in the loss column in the Wild Card, and 6 out in the division, with 70+ games left, AND leaves the A’s without an ace in 2009 (though you could argue Duchscherer at this point).
OTOH, right now we’re all watching Harden go through a “no it’s fine, really” dead-arm period, wondering when he’ll be lost for nothing instead of for a haul.
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by Nico on Jul 7, 2008 10:56 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
I'm feeling better about trading Harden now
I’ve always felt that you don’t want to trade him because he’s a true ace – a rare commodity that’s pretty much necessary to win a World Series. And I’d hate to see him go.
But . . .
1) Duke, Eveland, Smith, Blanton and Gaudin would be a top 5 MLB rotation, you might get something special out of the guys coming up, and the first 3 have some potential to be that special ace you need (and maybe Duke already is).
2) We REALLY need a big bat, and I’m losing confidence in our ability to get that big bat out of our system.
I think you need to get a current major league impact bat plus 2-3 very high potential minor league players to make it worthwhile, and i’m not sure a contending team gives up a current impact player. So I think the deal’s hard to trust.
But, as we like to say in New England, in Bill(y) we trust
it is not possible to strategize while the ball is coming towards you
by eastcoasta'sfan on Jul 7, 2008 1:10 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Harden's "dead arm" is what has me
ok with it. It was hard to be ok with it while he was pitching like Cy Young every time out, and feeling great. But now it feels like “tick, tick…” all over again.
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by Nico on Jul 7, 2008 1:14 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
The "dead arm" is actually possible. He has already thrown more innings thisq
year, than the last 2 combined, so he has hit the wall. Every other time he has went to the DL, there has been some discomfort. He says that there is none, but that could just be the, for the public spin.
by theblackpearl on Jul 7, 2008 1:37 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
If it were Duke, or Smith or Eveland, I'd be buying
It’s just with Harden that I’m not sure – because it’s unclear whether his arm can handle throwing, period.
I like Cindi. A. She never pretends to know more than she does. B. She has unbridled enthusiasm for her "Hotties," and isn't afraid to show it. -IM4Oakgal
by Nico on Jul 7, 2008 2:15 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
I thought it was more his shoulder that was the problem.
by OldhamA on Jul 7, 2008 2:36 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Actually, Harden's problems are mostly localized
In his “body” region.
Much like a bottle of “California Red” wine, it’s difficult to determine what the problem is or where it came from. You just know something is broken and you aren’t surprised.
by nevermoor on Jul 7, 2008 2:42 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Just Back From Chicago
I was in Chicago yesterday and went out to Cellular to see the game. Basic thoughts:
I was impressed that there were quite a few A’s fans in attendance, wearing green jerseys or caps or both. Nice to see. The biggest cheers were for Ellis – which leads me to believe it’s a fairly discerning group.
As for the game … wow, I remember when the A’s played Picciolo and Shooty up the middle, but due to injuries and so forth I can’t remember the last time a big league club threw so many way-below-average hitters up there, 1 through 9. It’s actually quite impressive that the A’s scored 3 runs, and had Ellis’ drive to left gone 9 inches farther they might actually have won the game. Harden looked terrific as long as he was able to wind up, but as soon as he went into the stretch he looked awful. Something’s wrong with the guy, clearly, but he isn’t about to say he’s injured because he knows no one wants to hear it.
Major thoughts are about Cellular: what an awful place to see a ballgame. The stereo is cranked pretty much to volume 11 from beginning to end and the fans aren’t allowed an honest emotion. The siren call of ‘charge’ is played with bases empty, 2 outs and 0-2 counts on batters … no sense whatsoever of flow. The PA announcer sounds like he misses his day job at monster truck rallies – for every batter. At one point the fans started chanting ‘let’s go Sox…’ but then the ‘hey now, you’re an all star’ song came on for about the 10th time when Joe Crede came up. The fans, now cowed, and not about to cheer Crede’s selection yet again, went back to sitting on their hands. Pretty grim. But not as grim as the $23 I paid to park.
The Coliseum is under-rated. Roy Steele, please.
by solotar on Jul 7, 2008 2:36 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
Just be thankful it wasn't snowing on you
I’ve been to a game there where it was 22 with flurries.
by nevermoor on Jul 7, 2008 2:44 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
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