Way to go Gio

by matt0177 on Jul 4, 2008 10:39 PM PDT Comment 20 comments

http://web.minorleaguebaseball.com/milb/stats/stats.jsp?sid=milb&t=g_box&gid=2008_07_04_srcaaa_freaaa_1

Gio pitched a complete game one hitter tonight (yes, the one was a HR). 13 K/2 BB. He really seems to be doing a lot better lately, hopefully he can keep it up.

Between his and Cahill's performance tonight, Anderson and now Inoa in the wings, our pitching could be unreal for a while. As much as I loved Swisher, I'm really loving both Gio and Sweeny.

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Just imagin if De Los Santos

didnt have TJ surgery. We have the best pitching prospects in all of baseball IMO. Tampa is really close but with Mcgee getting TJS I think we moved ahead of them.

When will then be now? Soon.

by Syphon on Jul 4, 2008 10:52 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs

Starting Pitching Prospects

Trevor Cahill
Brett Anderson
Gio Gonzalez
Craig Italiano
Michel Inoa
James Simmons
Henry Rodriguez
Vince Mazzaro
Arnold Leon
Fautino De Los Santos

Thats a lot of pitching depth, I’d say. And I’d say that everyone on that list has the potential to be a #3 starter or better. If only we had hitting depth like that.

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by Zonis on Jul 4, 2008 11:29 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs

Ross, too

if they ever get his delivery cleaned up a little.

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by PaulThomas on Jul 5, 2008 12:51 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs

ah yeah, forgot Ross

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by Zonis on Jul 5, 2008 1:14 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs

Ross is already hurt, y'know.

Maybe those mechanics ARE a problem. :-(

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by Nico on Jul 5, 2008 9:00 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs

The beauty is that all that pitching depth can be turned into a hitter

or two or three via trade. Everyone needs more pitching.

by Blez on Jul 5, 2008 1:01 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs

I wonder what our top 10 prospect list would look like right now?

Top Pitchers have already been listed, + Ross.

Top Hitters:
1B Sean Doolittle
1B Chris Carter
OF Aaron Cunningham
3B Jesus Guzman
C1 Anthony Recker
OF Matt Sulentic
OF Corey Brown
2B Jamile Weeks

Thats all I can think of. Not a whole lot there. Most of our “prospects” as far as hitting goes have gotten a bit too old.

Looking at that list, if it holds true till the end of the year, I wouldn’t be supprised if next year’s top 10 list only included 1 hitter, Doolittle, and the rest pitchers.

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by Zonis on Jul 5, 2008 1:23 AM PDT reply actions 0 recs

Landon Powell should still be on there

As far as I can tell, his low OPS this year is still a coincidence. His BABIP is 50 points lower than it’s ever been before, and his secondary skills (power, walk rate, etc) haven’t really changed…

Also, Petit is still prospect-eligible, although I suppose he probably won’t be by year’s end. (OK, technically I think Carlos Gonzalez is, too, but we all know he’ll surpass it.)

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by PaulThomas on Jul 5, 2008 11:44 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs

I really hope Powell and stay healthy and get it together.

by matt0177 on Jul 5, 2008 12:13 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs

Yeah Powell was dealing with an injury for the better part of the first half

the good news is the injury is not a problem anymore but recovery from the injury takes about 3-4 months so look for him to have a big second half

by A'sfaninNC on Jul 5, 2008 1:24 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs

What was the injury this time?

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by Monday Fan on Jul 6, 2008 2:37 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs

I cant recall at the time but he had surgy to fix it and was expected to

struggle during the first half as it healed up then be at 100% around the ASB

by A'sfaninNC on Jul 6, 2008 11:22 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs

You scared me at first

I thought the title was supposed to be sarcastic.

Procrastinators unite....tomorrow

by muffinpryde on Jul 5, 2008 10:55 AM PDT reply actions 0 recs

Gio’s ERA even after this is still 4.84… Nobody’s doubting that he has the raw stuff, but he can’t seem to string together a few good outings… until I see a long stretch of consistency, I wouldn’t rush Gio up to the majors.

by C-Gon on Jul 5, 2008 3:21 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs

ERA is meaningless for prospects

Remember when Nick Adenhart’s ERA was about 0.7 and the Angels called him up?

It turned out to be a total mirage, as he got hammered in a short MLB stint, went back down and kept getting hammered in AAA. It was predictable if you looked at his peripherals—he wasn’t striking guys out, he was walking too many people and he had been terrifically lucky not to give up any HR with all the fly balls he was surrendering.

Gio now is a better bet than Adenhart then, even though his ERA is 4 runs higher.

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by PaulThomas on Jul 5, 2008 3:36 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs

+1

When will then be now? Soon.

by Syphon on Jul 5, 2008 10:26 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs

Gio

I wouldn’t go so far as to say ERA is meaningless but it can certainly be deceptive. Otherwise, I agree. If a spot in the rotation were to be opened by trade or injury, I’d like to see him get a shot.

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by Monday Fan on Jul 6, 2008 2:35 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs

Gio strikes me as a guy you DON'T call up early

Great arm, but not harnessing it consistently = Not ready for prime time yet.

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by Nico on Jul 6, 2008 9:15 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs

+1

by nevermoor on Jul 6, 2008 10:03 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs

Just look at his game log...

For every game or two like Friday, he has a game where he can’t make it past the 3rd/4th inning. His K/BB ratio is currently 103/48, which isn’t terrible, but could be a lot better, even in the PCL. While I agree with your point that ratios are somewhat deceptive for prospects because they’re often told to work on the weaker pitches in their repertoire, I think Gio’s still pretty raw and in general madly inconsistent. I think he’s worth a September callup to get a taste of the bigs, but I think it’s best for his future and the teams if he starts next year at Sacramento… or maybe even at Double A until he shows that he can dominate on a consistent basis.

WIth pitchers, it’s almost never the case that teams leave them down for TOO long… pitchers get rushed a lot… this isn’t like Utley and Howard being kept down without anything to prove in the minors.

by C-Gon on Jul 6, 2008 11:10 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs