Team Building - What are the A's looking for?
Anyone following the Athletics knows that the A's tend to move in cycles. While Pitching will always be there, the key is what they do on the position side of things.
Early in Beane's tenure, the A's went the route of OPS. They grabbed every player they could to go with their homergown talent that could get on base and hit for power. And they had success. Despite the generally lousy defense, the A's won a lot of games, scored a lot of runs, and had excellent pitching, at least in the #1, #2 and #3 slots.
And then the league caught up. The players that the A's had grabbed before became scarce, and they could no longer find them. So they changed their tune. They started to go Defense. Defense while grabbing the occasional OBP guy, but this time, with out power. And they turned into the best defensive team in the league, but at the same time, the least powerful. The offense, with out that power, died. The lack of power made the OBP unsustainable-after all, if you don't have any power, why not throw in the strike zone if the best you can get is a single? But the A's still held onto the offensive philosophy of batting average not mattering so long as the OBP was high. But with the power gone, and the OBP no longer able to support itself , the batting averages plummeted and dragged the OBP down.
The A's became a team of relatively slow or average runners, with low batting averages, decent on base skills, and no power, resulting in an astounding amount of ground-into-double-plays, and now, unable to make any contact, Strikeouts. The team has lived on its pitching and its defense to help prop up that pitching.
But that philosophy is changing, and it is evident in the type of players the A's have been acquiring, perhaps starting with the 2005 draft that saw the A's draft Cliff Pennington and Travis Buck, and with Mark Mulder trade acquiring Daric Barton. Or, perhaps, the A's were still deluding themselves, at least with Buck and Barton, that 'Power will come naturally, just like Jason Giambi', and not realizing that the unnatural power for Giambi would no longer arrive from now on.
The A's started to gather, for lack of a better term, lead off hitters. High Average, High On Base players with excellent speed, and the hope of future power. They acquired Daric Barton (.301/.414/.458 career minor league line), Travis Buck (.318/.395/.486) and Cliff Pennington (.368/.453/.561 with 29 SB in College).
Fast Forward to the A's recent acquisitions, and I think we can continue to see the pattern the A's are going for.
Ryan Sweeney is batting .307 with 8/9 Stolen Bases.
Carlos Gonzalez came to the A's with a minor league career .287 batting average and pretty good speed.
Aaron Cunningham came with another .300+ average and a good amount of stolen bases.
And just in the last few trades and the draft, the A's have gone after Eric Patterson (.329 average in AAA, 15/15 SB), Jamile Weeks, another high average, high obp base stealer out of the draft, and Ardian Cardenas, .301/.364/.429, 12/12 in SB, and Rashun Dixon, who rharden40 has told us, has blazing speed, so fast that he finds it hard to hit Doubles, and instead settles for 7 triples to 1 double.
That is what I think the A's are targeting right now. Versatile players who can play multiple positions with on base skills and speed to compensate for the lack of power. With Chris Carter and Sean Doolittle coming up at 1B and DH, unless the Carter return to 3B experiment succeeds (which I hope does) providing the power, I think we can expect the future A's to be somewhat similar to the team we have now, but with a lot higher average. A team full of Ryan Sweeney's, if you will. Which makes you wonder if the A's did indeed insist on Sweeney more than we thought at the time, instead of just being the throw in for the deal.
So why is this important to know right now? Well, with the Trading Deadline a week away, and the A's five remaining trading chips all generating some degree of interest (Duchscherer, Street, Crosby, Ellis, Embree), I think keeping in mind the type of player the A's seem to be going after is important.
Top Pitching prospects, as always, and a new kind of hitter.
It still remains to be seen if a lineup full of this type of hitter will succeed for a Major League lineup. Because personally, the lack of power still disturbs me.
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I hear ya
Nine Ryan Sweeneys would be an awesome lineup though. Terrific defensively, too. Combined with our projected pitching, we could win a future division title even without a 30-homer guy.
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by notsellingjeans on
Jul 24, 2008 11:43 PM PDT
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and 4 left handed infielders
I had a left handed shortstop once in little league and he was actually not bad.
by rightbackin on
Jul 25, 2008 12:04 AM PDT
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I haven't been fucked like that since grade school
You prefer a magic trick, instead? Watch me make this pencil disappear.
by Swooney's Left Foot on
Jul 25, 2008 12:22 AM PDT
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is this a non-sequitur?
or a cry for help?
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by Gaijin_Suketto on
Jul 25, 2008 10:50 AM PDT
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The first rule of Fight Club is you do not talk about Fight Club
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by Swooney's Left Foot on
Jul 25, 2008 11:04 AM PDT
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"Who are you talking to?"
“Shut up.”
\Door slams/
Ryan Sweeney: I probably irrationally embraced him before you did.
by Joey C. on
Jul 25, 2008 12:36 PM PDT
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You know the story behind that line?
It was a replacement line. The original line was “I want to have your abortion,” but the executive producers thought it was too extreme. So….HBC improvised that one, which I feel is significantly worse. And that is why I am not an ExProd.
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by Leopold Bloom on
Jul 25, 2008 2:08 PM PDT
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I don't think that was improv
Screenwriter claims credit for it in the commentary track.
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by monkeyball on
Jul 25, 2008 3:58 PM PDT
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Scary lefty infielder story
I’m a lefty, and my company softball team just made me the shortstop. That’s scary enough, ‘cuz I not only am a lefty – I stink, too.
What’s worse is that, given the rest of our team, I think our captain made the right decision.
Wanna guess our record?
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by eastcoasta'sfan on
Jul 25, 2008 12:41 PM PDT
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the same as the A's?
The 2009 A's draft pick... getting higher every game.
by rebus on
Jul 25, 2008 12:46 PM PDT
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I think you're massaging the narrative a bit to fit your view,
but it’s a fair point.
For mine, I see the front office’s approach to be a search for guys with baseball skills. We could view it as the anti- Stairs, Jaha, Cust movement, with an interest in players who have shown an ability to develop multiple baseball tools, and I think in general that would be correct. I think this is where the A’s also value bloodlines of former major leaguers, mostly from an argument for the nurture side of things rather than something as silly as ‘baseball genes.’
However, we do have Cust, Carter, DLS, Henry Rodriguez, and other players who are raw or one dimensional, so I don’t think the view is so narrow as to exclude any one type of player. If the A’s can buy talent on sale, they will, style points be damned. So, more than the A’s taking a predetermined vision of how their future championship team will play and building that vision, I think they’re looking at the clearance bin of the baseball talent pool with the intention of acquiring as much as possible. They’ll figure out how it all gels later.
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by rebus on
Jul 25, 2008 12:04 AM PDT
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What do you mean by "baseball skills"
Because it sounds a lot like “tools” guys and, no thank you, but I’m not willing to deal with 50 Corey Pattersons for every 1 Carlos Beltran. The A’s have gotten lucky and got Carlos Gonzalez. He’s rare.
But, yes, I hate “tools” guys a hundred times more than anybody on this site can hate the Cust/Dunn strikeout types. I just don’t get all excited about athletes who, to create a comparison with football, would destroy everybody at the combine but can’t actually play very well.
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by thejd44 on
Jul 25, 2008 12:19 AM PDT
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lucky for you,
I think the A’s also see plate discipline and defense as baseball skills. I wasn’t really referring to tools anyway, but I can understand what you mean. I do think there’s a difference between tools and skills though. A tool is, in my estimation, the manifestation of physical attributes while a skill is a practiced technique.
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by rebus on
Jul 25, 2008 12:40 AM PDT
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I seriously doubt you can hate anything as much as I hate Jack Cust
by petitceebee on
Jul 25, 2008 12:57 AM PDT
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that was low
spartacust is the man
Cust is the new Jaha.
by johnjahafanclub on
Jul 25, 2008 8:37 AM PDT
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... says "John Jaha Fan Club"
(Not that I disagree or anything.)
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by PaulThomas on
Jul 25, 2008 8:44 AM PDT
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I would like Beane to really focus on players with doubles power
Looking around the league, I think this is one area that is very undervalued. That’s probably because home runs are actually overvalued (yes, they’re important. Yes, they’re the best thing an offensive player can do. And because of that, teams pay extra for guys who hit home runs). Oakland isn’t a place where balls fly out of the park anyway, so having players who can put up 35-40 doubles or more a season would really, really help their overall slugging.
Plus, guys like Buck (who I still have faith in) and Gonzalez are fast enough to turn a handful of those doubles into triples. Not as good as a home run, but if you fill a lineup with gap power guys you can be pretty successful even without hitting home runs.
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by thejd44 on
Jul 25, 2008 12:22 AM PDT
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I think we've had this discussion before
Power is NOT overvalued. It is highly valued and for a reason. I think your point is good in that gap power is undervalued by the league, but that does not mean that HR power is overvalued.
I think what the A’s are ultimately looking for is for guys that can hit .280-.290 with a good OBP, doubles power, and speed, with 15-20 HRs thrown in. Without any home run power, value goes way down. Say someone hits 40 doubles and 10 triples with 5 HRs in 600 ABs; they are still less valuable than a guy that hits 35 doubles, 5 triples and 15 HR in terms of run production and SLG.
The front office most likely looks at athleticism as a bonus as far as positional flexibility on defense is concerned. A lot of these players you can probably stick at most positions depending on their arm strength and yield a pretty good result in terms of fielding range.
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by baseb3383 on
Jul 25, 2008 7:22 AM PDT
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I believe that the examination of a MLB win
in a typical game, inning by inning, would reveal that
(1) if you don’t give up home runs, you have a great chance.
(2) if you can make balls hit in the gap into outs, make no errors in the infield, you have a great chance.
So I think the best pitching plus defense is going to put you into every game. You have to score runs to win, and to win against teams that ALSO have the non-HR pitching plus defense (more like the Angels, less like the Marlins) you have to get a lead-off double, move the runner, score the runner by making contact.
The Athletics team is almost there. The team ERA leads the majors, and that’s good, but like the series with Tampa Bay and NYYankees showed, simply have to cut down on HRs even more, and, on offense, have to have more doubles-to-runs type innings. Walks are great in that they wear down the opposing pitching, but it cannot be an “end in itself”, which is where this team has gotten, taking too many called third strikes.
Outfield defense and infield play has shown in those two series that it will keep you in a ballgame that could otherwise “get away” from close, just on a single play. Youth has a lot to do with this, as well as team speed.
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by One won lost won on
Jul 25, 2008 11:26 AM PDT
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Power is never overvalued
Power = Wins… in it’s basic form, that’s about what it amounts to.
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by brenarlo on
Jul 25, 2008 7:54 AM PDT
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supporting evidence??
A team like the 1997 Athletics had a lot more power than this one.
That team came in last in the AL West.
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by One won lost won on
Jul 25, 2008 11:28 AM PDT
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Interesting theory
And I have no problem with baseball players actually starting to look like athletes despite what John Kruk says
by petitceebee on
Jul 25, 2008 1:00 AM PDT
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BB has done a solid job stockpiling pitching depth via these trades...
...and can now use that depth to trade from a surplus to address deficiencies in the lineup going forward. The team had all its eggs in one basket with Harden-the system produced no other MLB-quality starters these past few years. Harden proved to be unreliable, and we were screwed. After the dust settles on July 31st, it would not surprise me to see that we have not one or two but perhaps TWELVE TO FIFTEEN pitchers in the minors with the potential to join a rotaion at the ML level within 3 years. If one is fragile, as Harden was, the organization will not be set back, because BB is going for quantity by stockpiling.
I’m not sure how many of you see Eveland and Smith in the rotation for (hopefully :) ) the next “green and gold dynasty”, but I think it is very possible that one or both will be packaged in a deal to acquire offense, perhaps as early as next year. Quality, cost-controlled, ML-seasoned starting pitching is a valuable commodity, and we will very soon have more of it than we can possibly make use of. The surplus can be used to buy bats-lots of ‘em. I wouldn’t at all mind a 2010 rotation of Gio, Cahill, Simmons, Gallagher, and whoever else comes on strongest (perhaps Anderson will be ready by then). Stash a few more in Sacto in case of injury/underperformance and deal the rest for position players that can HIT THE DAMN BALL!
As for the upcoming trade deadline, I hope BB makes several more deals. Street MUST GO NOW before it becomes too obvious to the entire league that he is not the real deal. Someone is gonna give Ellis 4 years/$30m in the offseason, and you know it won’t be us, so ship him now and get something for him. Keeping any of them now would at most add 5 or 6 wins in a season where we’ll most likely finish 15 back anyway. Deal Duke now and get a good return-he is having a career year, most likely never to be repeated. Someone is gonna overpay mightily for him, and you know it won’t be us. Squirrel away prospects by the dozens and await the “NEW SWINGIN’ A’S” of ‘10-’15.
My first game at the Coliseum was in ‘73 to see Catfish pitch, and just a few years later that whole dream roster was gone and we were the worst team in baseball. It’s always been this way, and I’m used to rooting for laundry. Whoever is wearing that uni is “ours”, even though we know they’ll end up somewhere else if they’re any good. It’s unproductive to lament this unfortunate situation-it is what it is. We should be thankful that the A’s management is proactive and has a plan-look no further than KC, Pitt, or the Giants for examples of poorly-run organizations which lack direction and vision…
by kitoko on
Jul 25, 2008 3:00 AM PDT
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[beats head on table]
Believe it or not, there is actually a continuum of stuff between a 100 MPH fastball and Paul Byrd. Huston Street is not a novelty act. He is a good pitcher who has been good for his entire career. He has one of the best pitches in all of baseball with his slider.
You could make a sort of an argument that you think he’s injured and want to foist him off on someone else for that reason, but as we discussed with the Harden deal, it’s really not to the long-term interests of the A’s to develop a reputation as lemon salesmen.
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by PaulThomas on
Jul 25, 2008 9:01 AM PDT
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I have a different concern about Street
In 2005, when the league had not seen his slider, he got tons of swinging strikes from the slider. Then in 2006-07, he continued missing bats and putting hitters away – less often with the slider, more just the combination of a fastball that was “plenty good if you have to look out for the slider,” the slider, and the changeup.
Street is not putting hitters away lately. Just look at the recent ABs from Torii Hunter, Juan Rivera, Jason Giambi, and Wilson Betemit – yes Hunter and Rivera did not make solid contact, and Giambi did not put the ball in play at all, but after how many “two strike” pitches did each of these ABs end?
If I were a scout, I’d be concerned that Street does not have the “putaway pitch” he has had. Maybe a couple MPH on his fastball is partly responsible, maybe he is not able to get quite the arm angle and/or stride he needs due to physical limitations, I don’t know. What I do know is that Street is able to get two strikes on hitters but that hitters are fouling off, taking, or lining to left, pitches they used to miss, and that they are seeing well pitches that used to fool them. That is not a good thing.
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by Nico on
Jul 25, 2008 9:32 AM PDT
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He's having trouble putting lhhs away, as the change isn't working too well
but overall he’s still great at “putting hitters away” and is doing it at the same rate he did in 2005-2006. He’s getting a ton of swinging strikes. There aren’t more than 5-6 guys who are better at “putting away RHHs.” That concern really only applies to the past few games.
He doesn’t use the slider to LHHs, though, and it probably wouldn’t work, so that is a legitimate concern. I think he needs to throw the fastball inside more to them, which he is perhaps afraid to do.
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by mikeA on
Jul 25, 2008 9:46 AM PDT
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perhaps afraid, because
anything inside to a lefty this season has seemingly been crushed over the wall in right (Starting in Japan)?
witty remark
by dtownmbrown on
Jul 25, 2008 4:46 PM PDT
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That sounds like a serious problem if hitters only have to look outside.
It eliminates the backup slider on the outside corner, and the slider at the shoe tops, and makes the changeup a lot less effective.
When you have a chance to get a guy like Sean Gallagher, you take it!
by WaddellCanseco on
Jul 26, 2008 11:52 AM PDT
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This whole thing with selling lemons is a little rediculous to me
They’re major league baseball players, not used cars. It’s not as if the thrice broke down Fiatt down at Jimmy’s chop shop gets a write up in SF Gate every time it breaks down. GMs know what they are getting into when acquiring an injury prone player.
by GusanoQuemador on
Jul 25, 2008 12:00 PM PDT
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No, GM does not know what it's doing.
Otherwise I would be getting a lotter better mileage.
Oh wait…wrong GM.
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by alox on
Jul 25, 2008 12:03 PM PDT
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i think they should deal street as well
they have plenty of closers in waiting in devine, casilla + 2 in the minors.
by echerrst on
Jul 25, 2008 11:48 AM PDT
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trade the blue jays
simmons street embree smith for halladay snider and cash… and maybe scutaro
Cust is the new Jaha.
by johnjahafanclub on
Jul 25, 2008 8:39 AM PDT
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No.
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by PaulThomas on
Jul 25, 2008 8:47 AM PDT
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Replace Smith with Eveland and I'd do that trade
Imagine the hitter you could flip Halladay for, and the trade starts to look pretty good for Oakland.
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by Nico on
Jul 25, 2008 8:53 AM PDT
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Dangit, my Most Interesting Man in the World impression is too unspecific
Of course I would do that trade. As is. In fact, I’d give them BOTH Smith and Eveland if they wanted it. It’s just that Toronto would never do it in a million years. Who trades their ace and their #1 prospect for a bunch of back-of-the-rotation starters and bullpen guys, in a noncompetitive season?
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by PaulThomas on
Jul 25, 2008 8:56 AM PDT
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Now that was funny.
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by SwampyD on
Jul 25, 2008 9:07 AM PDT
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Totally agree
It’s one of the few times that explaining it is necessary, yet still makes it funny.
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by DMOAS on
Jul 25, 2008 10:30 AM PDT
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I think a more interesting question is,
who the heck trades for freaking Matt Morris in his “suck years,” when the team is at least three years away from competing? That one still floors me.
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by Nico on
Jul 25, 2008 9:34 AM PDT
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It's pretty rare that you can look at a pure salary dump
and immediately, without hesitation, state that the team dumping the salary won the trade.
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by PaulThomas on
Jul 25, 2008 10:09 AM PDT
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Esteban Loaiza, too
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by notsellingjeans on
Jul 27, 2008 2:33 AM PDT
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What do you think of rollerblading???
In a word, or sentence?
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by One won lost won on
Jul 25, 2008 11:30 AM PDT
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I think he's looking for grit and heart.
and people who play the game the right way, know how to win, do the little things, and are ballplayers.
by mikev on
Jul 25, 2008 8:46 AM PDT
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Don't forget who have "the look of a ballplayer"
and “show up to play”.
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by Nico on
Jul 25, 2008 8:48 AM PDT
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Yeah, guys who give 110% and leave it all out on the field.
GAMERS.
by mikev on
Jul 25, 2008 8:50 AM PDT
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Only 110%? The players we're drafting
will throw at the head of any teammate who doesn’t give 115%.
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by Nico on
Jul 25, 2008 8:52 AM PDT
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They give 110%, but they do it 150% of the time.
So it works out.
by mikev on
Jul 25, 2008 8:52 AM PDT
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I like your grit
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by Nico on
Jul 25, 2008 9:35 AM PDT
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i tells y'all what...
when someone talks a bunch of BS about 110% and gamers, and grit, and determination, i always get the distinct feeling that they love football more than baseball and wish baseball were more like football.
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by Gaijin_Suketto on
Jul 25, 2008 10:56 AM PDT
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I suspect the A's emphasis on speed in recent
trades and drafts partly reflects an admission of the importance of creating one run when your team is built for low scoring games – as both the A’s and Angels are. It doesn’t hurt that Geren is much more “speed friendly” than Macha was (or else the organizational philosophy has shifted).
Power is still better but it’s expensive, so you end up with guys like Cust who are “all or nothing” and don’t help you get so far as second base when the ball stays in the park. And speed doesn’t slump the way power does.
I still think the A’s are drafting and acquiring “best available player” more than they are targeting skills, but they are clearly not anti-speed in their evaluations.
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by Nico on
Jul 25, 2008 8:46 AM PDT
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The game is currently in flux.
Things always change, and baseball is certainly no exception. I imagine that a chemical free environment is fueling the recent changes away from the power game and back to a more classical style of play. Maybe this explains the renewed emphasis on pitching and speed.
It will be interesting to see if Billy reads the tea leaves correctly in the next few seasons. If anything, I imagine the cost of power will continue to spike.
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by alox on
Jul 25, 2008 8:54 AM PDT
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"Things always change"
really? How about the acceleration of gravity, on Earth?
Instrumentally, you might get enough variation to declare “change”, but is it practicable?
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by One won lost won on
Jul 25, 2008 11:34 AM PDT
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Relative to the universe, earth is a small sample anyway.
I like Cindi. A. She never pretends to know more than she does. B. She has unbridled enthusiasm for her "Hotties," and isn't afraid to show it. -IM4Oakgal
by Nico on
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Even gravity changes.
Suns become black holes, black holes eventually, “evaporate”, or so a physicist once tried in vain to explain to me. In several million years our sun will eventually have something to say about earths mass, hence affecting it’s gravity. As far as the rate of acceleration of gravity goes, it may be one of the laws of physics confining it to its current status. I don’t really know. I imagine if you looked hard enough you could find a quantum theorist who may have a different view.
All I was doing was musing on the changes brought about by a chemical free environment. If it’s true, then I imagine the law of supply and demand will drive the price of power even higher. I was wondering if Beane is modifying his philosophical approach to the game in light of recent change.
"You may glory in a team triumphant, but you fall in love with a team in defeat."--The Boys of Summer
by alox on
Jul 25, 2008 11:56 AM PDT
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We need to acquire a hydrogen-based hitter
who is about to start producing helium. And then draft his sun.
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by Nico on
Jul 25, 2008 12:06 PM PDT
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Unfortunately,
once in our system, he will fuse into Crosby.
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by alox on
Jul 25, 2008 12:08 PM PDT
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No
Unfortunately, once in our system, his sun will turn into a black hole and suck.
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by DMOAS on
Jul 25, 2008 12:32 PM PDT
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What's the difference between those two comments?
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by Nico on
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What's the difference between those two comets?
Well, nothing, except that one’s from the Oort cloud and the other’s from the Kuiper belt!
Duh.
The 2009 A's draft pick... getting higher every game.
by rebus on
Jul 25, 2008 12:49 PM PDT
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Even Kuiper's
kids hate the fact that they originated from his belt.
"You may glory in a team triumphant, but you fall in love with a team in defeat."--The Boys of Summer
by alox on
Jul 25, 2008 12:51 PM PDT
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Offense in the AL and NL from 2003-2008
008: AL, 4.64, 265 .333 .412, NL 4.50, 259 .329 .412
2007: AL, 4.90, 271 .338 .423, NL, 4.71, 266 .334 .423
2006: AL , 4.97,275 .339 .437, NL , 4.76, 265 .334 .427
2005: AL, 4.76, 268 .330 .424, NL, 4.45, 262 .330 .414
2004: AL, 5.01 270 .338 .433, NL, 4.64, 263 .333 .423
2003: AL, 4.86, 267 .333 .428, NL, 4.61, 262 .332 .417
While the A’s offense has gone the drain in the past month or so, the rest of the AL has started hitting. I’d


