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Brad Ziegler goes into the AL record books (w/ links)

For those of you who weren't following the gameday thread or able to catch the game, here is some news:

Tonight, Brad Ziegler set a new American League record for consecutive scoreless innings to start a career, passing Boston's Dave Ferriss (1945) with an inning pitched against Tampa Bay. That puts him at 22 2/3 innings, 22 being the previous mark.

During the broadcast, it was mentioned that George McQuillan of the Philadelphia Phillies has the National League (and subsequently, Major League) record of 25 innings to begin his career, set way back in 1907. Small world, considering it was the Phillies who let Ziegler go from their minor league system a few years ago.

For someone who has worked as long and as hard as Ziegler has to get to the Major Leagues after being told he was too old and not good enough for the Phillies, to being hit by a line drive in the head in High-A, to being asked to change his entire pitching style, to getting hit in the head a second time this past offseason, to make it to the highest level and set a record like this? It may be an obscure one but now he's probably going to have something in the Hall of Fame. I think that's pretty amazing.

Added: Some news-related links:

From Joe Stiglich:

"Honestly, when I'm out there I wasn't thinking about (the record)," Ziegler said. "When I tied (the AL mark) and they stopped and asked me to throw the ball in, that's when I realized it."

Ziegler did some research on Boo (real name David) Ferriss once he heard his name come up "to see what kind of guy he was."

Ferriss had a 65-30 record in six seasons with Boston.

"It seems like he had a decent career," Ziegler said.

From Susan Slusser:

Ziegler said he thought Peña's ball was out initially and, he said, "I tell you, it wasn't a good pitch. ... He got a lot of it, but thankfully he was a little late."

...

"It's exciting to be at the top of a league record two months into my career," Ziegler said. "It's pretty crazy. But it's a tribute to the team. I rely on my defense; I don't strike guys out."

Ziegler is closing in on the A's longest scoreless streak by a relief pitcher, Rick Honeycutt's 24 1/3 innings, June 25-Sept. 14, 1995.

After Ziegler matched Ferriss' mark, the ball was thrown into the dugout as a keepsake.

From Mychael Urban:

The A's have come to almost expect great pitching and defense, but few expected this from Ziegler. The sidearmer with near-criminal sink and command tied the AL record of 22 set by Boston's Boo Ferriss in 1945 when he retired Gabe Gross on a ground ball to start the seventh inning.

"I think for the most part he locates really well," Gross said. "He doesn't do a whole lot besides come right at you. You would think that would uncomplicate things, but he comes at you, tries to keep the ball down from that angle. When he's keeping the ball down, it's hard to do anything but beat the ball in the dirt."

...

Poor pitches are a rarity for Ziegler, said Braden. The two were teammates at Triple-A Sacramento earlier this year.

"He's been unreal the entire year," Braden gushed. "He was our go-to guy in Triple-A, and he's our go-to guy here now. Just lights-out all year long."

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ziggy will have something in both the baseball and rock n roll halls of fame

A's v Giants "is kind of like the difference between going to see the Ramones and going to see the Bee Gees. A's fans will go see the Ramones." -BB 07/27/05

by xbhaskarx on Jul 22, 2008 6:45 PM PDT reply actions   0 recs

From a Rays Fan watching today's game.....

Congrats to Brad Ziegler. All I can say is WOW! Only thing I can’t figure out is what took him so long? Any time Beane wants to get rid of another great arm, tell him to call Andrew Friedman and I’m sure we’ll be more than happy to take him off your hands! Good thing we only see you guys for one more series….of course unless we see you in October! Good luck!

by Rays Rule on Jul 22, 2008 7:23 PM PDT reply actions   0 recs

He's had a long path to get here
  • he was let go by the Phillies organization a few years ago because they didn’t think he could make it and he was too old to be at such a low level (Low-A Batavia at the time)
  • he was brought in by the A’s after a brief stint in the Independent League and pitched effectively as a starter, then he was approached with the idea of converting to a sidearm/submarine style before the start of the 2007 season and becoming a relief pitcher
  • he has had two separate skull fractures from being hit in the head with a baseball. One was off the bat of Fred Lewis in the minors a few years ago while the other came in an accident in the off-season after a youth camp session (he was getting some throwing in and one of the kids that was talking to him reached in front of him for the ball, which deflected off the kid’s glove and hit him in the forehead)
  • this season, he’s allowed a combined 1 earned run in over 45 innings pitched in both Triple-A and the Majors

What makes this even more special for a lot of us is Brad has been keeping a diary here for the past two seasons. His diaries can be found here and if you go all the way to the first one and follow along, you can see how many questions he’s answered here as A’s fans followed his efforts to make it to the Majors.

For him to finally do it AND do what he’s doing now, I honestly couldn’t think of a more deserving person.

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by Flashfire on Jul 22, 2008 7:31 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

By the way, here's hoping the Rays can hold on and win the AL East

Great story so far and it’s nice to see them finally doing something good.

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by Flashfire on Jul 22, 2008 7:32 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

I'm all for the Rays representing the AL in the Fall Classic if we can't make it.

Especially when you guys have the makings of what we want to become.

Green Hulk Fists

by oaklandSMASH on Jul 23, 2008 1:02 AM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

AL East?

That was a classy message. From the AL East, that’s unusual. OK, from two teams in the AL East…. :)

by As Fan in the Bronx on Jul 24, 2008 5:58 AM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Seriously.. Baseball Tonight can officially go to hell..

Not one mention of Ziggy’s record during the recap of tonight’s game.
Honestly, had any Sox or Yankees player done this it would be mentioned 500 times per minute.

by CoryC123 on Jul 22, 2008 7:23 PM PDT reply actions   0 recs

Screw ESPN!

“Ziggy played guitar…........”

A’s baseball baby!

by mrod on Jul 22, 2008 7:24 PM PDT reply actions   0 recs

That bothered me a great deal

The question is : Do you think Ravich and the BBT crew never got word of the record? Or do you think they did and decided not to mention it because no one really cared?

by GusanoQuemador on Jul 23, 2008 9:36 AM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Amazing, just amazing

When was the last time he even allowed an inherited runner to score?

He’s now pitched in 21 games and has a positive WPA in 20 of them.

Your 2008 Athletics: It's Nothing Personal.

by PaulThomas on Jul 22, 2008 7:38 PM PDT reply actions   0 recs

I don't think they've used him a whole lot in the middle of an inning since his first few...

...appearances. He did get that one-pitch outing in the Angels series but I seem to recall most of his outings lately have been to start an inning off.

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by Flashfire on Jul 22, 2008 7:41 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

The only one I can remember is a sac fly

by Vlad at the Coliseum (in the game where we decided to strike out a bunch against Jon Garland).

I like Cindi. A. She never pretends to know more than she does. B. She has unbridled enthusiasm for her "Hotties," and isn't afraid to show it. -IM4Oakgal

by Nico on Jul 22, 2008 7:52 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

He did draw an inning ending double play versus the Mariners two weeks ago

With the A’s up 4-3, he came into a 1-out bases-loaded jam in the sixth and immediately induced a double-play ball from Jose Lopez.

I was listening on the radio and was pretty psyched about that. A’s won by the same score.

Bill James on Duane Kuiper: "It's absolutely incredible that a player this bad could be given 3000 at bats in the major leagues." -- Baseball Abstract, 1982

by blueconversechucks on Jul 22, 2008 9:05 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

5/31 in his debut.

Single to Kinsler allowed an inherited runner to score.

23.2 and counting...

by ZigFan31 on Jul 22, 2008 9:09 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Yep.

And the run was charged to Gaudin, so that’s ok. :-) hehe….

23.2 and counting...

by ZigFan31 on Jul 22, 2008 9:19 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

He has had a couple since then...

Had a sac fly by Vlad and one against Miggy C with the bases loaded on a fly to right.

Bring back Hammer.

by OaktownPower on Jul 22, 2008 11:17 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

It's like having Chad Bradford with better command and a fastball.

And Chad Bradford was pretty damn good.

"PECOTA can pretty much kiss my ass."-Nico

by jeepers on Jul 22, 2008 7:59 PM PDT reply actions   0 recs

and he has better posture than bradford

what, good posture is important…

A's v Giants "is kind of like the difference between going to see the Ramones and going to see the Bee Gees. A's fans will go see the Ramones." -BB 07/27/05

by xbhaskarx on Jul 22, 2008 8:41 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

and high socks

The A's colors are green and gold.

by mikeA on Jul 22, 2008 9:19 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

high socks are awesome...

...but stirrups are better!

"All managers are losers, they are the most expendable pieces of furniture on the face of the Earth."- Ted Williams

by Gaijin_Suketto on Jul 23, 2008 1:48 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Unfortunately

This is one area where all the homerism in the world cannot compensate.

The Cardinals’ are the best.

by nevermoor on Jul 23, 2008 6:01 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Woohoo!

Ziggy’s fun to watch :-D

There's no textbook for how to treat a geriatric tapir.

by Poppy on Jul 22, 2008 8:15 PM PDT reply actions   0 recs

Ziegler made Rotoworld

With two more scoreless innings on Tuesday, Brad Ziegler broke the AL record for consecutive scoreless innings to start a career.
Ziegler is up to 23 2/3 innings. He passed Boo Farris, who established the AL record of 22 innings in 1945. George McCullen has the longest streak since 1900, throwing 25 scoreless innings in 1907.

You prefer a magic trick, instead? Watch me make this pencil disappear.

by Swooney's Left Foot on Jul 22, 2008 9:35 PM PDT reply actions   0 recs

Hey, Boo Faris? F--- you.

Children, until we have taught them better, will be perfectly happy with a seasonal round of games in which conkers succeeds hopscotch.

by salb918 on Jul 22, 2008 9:50 PM PDT reply actions   0 recs

Who pissed in your cornflakes?

The monster at the end of this blog.

by grover on Jul 22, 2008 10:00 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Faris is dead

The monster at the end of this blog.

by grover on Jul 22, 2008 11:25 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Dave "Boo" Ferriss

was a heck of a pitcher for the Red Sox in the mid ‘40’s. If Tommy John surgery had existed back then, he likely would have had a long and fruitful career.

"All managers are losers, they are the most expendable pieces of furniture on the face of the Earth."- Ted Williams

by Gaijin_Suketto on Jul 23, 2008 1:55 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

What would Koufax have done with TJS?

Your 2008 Athletics: It's Nothing Personal.

by PaulThomas on Jul 23, 2008 10:31 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Maybe ...

what if he got the surgery, came back, but was never the same—pitched 5 more poor to terrible years before hanging ‘em up.

Just riffing here, haven’t considered the numbers—but I doubt he’s a sure fire HOFer at that point.

"It's for your own good. Big strong Devo knows whats best for Poppy" -- Mossback

by devo on Jul 24, 2008 5:32 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

actually it was me

I had to go bad and salb just left his cornflakes sitting right there. I’m sorry Salb.

by The Golden One on Jul 22, 2008 11:44 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Congrats Ziggy!!

"It's for your own good. Big strong Devo knows whats best for Poppy" -- Mossback

by devo on Jul 22, 2008 10:03 PM PDT reply actions   0 recs

does anyone

know the longest scoreless streak by a reliever in mlb?

by sf drift king on Jul 22, 2008 11:33 PM PDT reply actions   0 recs

Not sure

Someone tried posting a link like that, but the results for some reason ended up throwing starting pitchers in there also.

Anyone else ever find anything?

by The Golden One on Jul 22, 2008 11:46 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Probably

Greg Olsen at 41.

The A's colors are green and gold.

by mikeA on Jul 22, 2008 11:46 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Congrats to Mr. Ziegler!

I got my sights set on the next benchmark, hope he makes it. Regardless, what a way to make a first impression on MLB after the long and bumpy road (“what’s a phrenologist do?”) to the top.

by still bills kingdom on Jul 23, 2008 8:30 AM PDT reply actions   0 recs

Congrats to Brad.

You’ve made AN proud!

by IM4Oakgal on Jul 23, 2008 10:12 AM PDT reply actions   0 recs

Nice job Ziggy, you are A-mazing

"Don't be an ass!" --Bill King

by batgirl on Jul 23, 2008 10:36 AM PDT reply actions   0 recs

What I like about Brad

is that he always seems so composed. Maybe being a little older helps with that.

by IM4Oakgal on Jul 23, 2008 1:56 PM PDT reply actions   0 recs

YAY BERT!!!!!!!

-Cindi

I like Cindi. A. She never pretends to know more than she does. B. She has unbridled enthusiasm for her "Hotties," and isn't afraid to show it. -IM4Oakgal

by Nico on Jul 23, 2008 7:07 PM PDT reply actions   0 recs

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