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The All Purpose, All In One Trade and Rosterbation thread

With so many trade threads floating around, with three threads per new rumor, and five hundred for each trade, I thought I would take a leaf out of Viva El Birdos and go with a single Trade Rumor and Discussion thread to keep track of all the potential roster moves our Athletics might make with out having a new thread for each one.

Here are our primary trade candidates, and rumors thus far about them. I'll expect AN to fill in the rest when the next wave of rumors come in.

RHP Huston Street - Closer
Rumored Teams Interested: White Sox, Mets, Brewers, Dodgers, Devil Rays, Reds.
Street's value is in flux right now. After a string of good outings, Street's blown three saves in a row and there are concerns, at least on AN, that he might be hiding another injury. The Brewers sent their special assistant to the GM to scout Street, and instead of a clean save over the Yankees, he saw Street not only get bailed out of getting a loss by a baserunner tripping over his own feet, but saw Street give up a series of hits, blow the save, and send the game into extra innings. The Brewers in turn said they were not interested in Street any longer. The Devil Rays have been rumored for Street for a while now, being linked to a possible Huston Street and Matt Murton package, but no news has come from that angle in a while. The Dodgers are looking for relief help after losing their closer, though Broxton can probably fill in for them. The Dodgers probably have the prospects the A's (or at least AN) covets most; Andy LaRoche and Ivan De Jesus to name a couple. The Mets have also been rumored by Ken Rosenthal.

RHP Justin Duchscherer - Starter
No rumored teams in specific, though you can probably say that just about every team in need of pitching would be interested in the MLB ERA Leader. The number of teams that he could be dealt with is too long to even speculate a list on, though the Cardinals are the last of the 3 NL Central teams vying for the title that have not made a huge pitching deal, 4 if you count the Reds and the Volquez/Hamilton deal.

LHP Alan Embree - Relief Pitcher
Veteran relievers are apparently in demand right now, so again, Embree could be linked to any number of relief hungry teams, most likely the White Sox I would say. No idea on his worth though, and he might be destined to be a throw in for a bigger trade.

RHP Keith Foulke - Relief Pitcher
See Alan Embree, though Foulke's injury history probably makes his value much less than Embree. Then again, he's also making almost nothing.

RH Mark Ellis - Second Base
Ellis is average offensively, and awesome defensively. But who exactly needs Ellis? The Rockies probably arn't interested anymore. The Dodgers? The best bet is probably the Cardinals. Perhaps a huge blockbuster for Rasmus isn't that far fetched after all? Ken Rosenthal thinks that Ellis would be a good for the Cardinals, but thinks that the A's want to extend Ellis and keep him, despite the recent acquisitions of Eric Patterson, Jamile Weeks and Adrian Cardenas.

RH Bobby Crosby - Short Stop
AN has been disenfranchised with Crosby for quite some time now, and even though Crosby's offensive numbers do not look quite as bad these days, it is only for a combination of two things; 1) the A's offense sucks that much and 2) Short Stops, AL in particular, are no longer hitting like the SS's of old. Tejada is in the NL, Jeter's gone a sucking, ARod is at 3B for some reason, and Garciaparra is a cripple. The Dodgers are in need of a shortstop, as are the Cardinals.

RH Emil Brown - Outfield
Could be picked up by a team in search for a warm body. Or a team with an extra body bag that they feel would go to waste if they just threw it out.

SH Rob Bowen - Catcher
Simply because Catchers are always in demand. The Yankees just lost Posada to the DL, and could be in the market, and we sure as hell are not using Bowen much.

RH Matt Murton - Outfield
Rumored with Street with the Devil Rays, there hasn't been much coming from Murton these days, be it rumors or offense. Perhaps they are connected? I still believe he is as likely to be a throw-in in a deal with the A's as he was with the Rich Harden trade.

Scorecard:
Rich Harden and Chad Gaudin to CHC for Sean Gallagher, Eric Patterson, Matt Murton and Sean Donaldson.

Joe Blanton to PHI for Adrian Cardenas, Josh Outman, Matt Spencer.

Mark Kosay to ATL for Joey Devine, Jamie Richmond.

Nick Swisher to CWS for Gio Gonzalez, Ryan Sweeney, Fautino De Los Santos.

Dan Haren and Conor Robertson to ARZ for Brett Anderson, Carlos Gonzalez, Chris Carter, Aaron Cunningham, Dana Eveland, Greg Smith.

Marco Scutaro to TOR for Graham Godfrey, Kristian Bell.

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Good idea meng.

'Who's that guy we had to release last year because he robbed a bank?'- Billy Beane
Sean Gallagher is my hero.

by Morgasm on Jul 22, 2008 12:17 AM PDT   0 recs

Hoping for more trades

I very much hope we’re looking to make more deals, but I don’t know if anyone has a sure ticket out of town. For some reason, Beane seems to want to keep Street around, even though he’s basically a young, team-controlled version of Billy Koch. Every time he comes out I have to cross my fingers. Ellis seems like a Beane favorite, most likely for his defense. He’s walking a buttload, but is having major issues hitting the ball this year. That said, the defense factor probably keeps him around…he’s a big part of our league-leading defense this year. I could see Embree heading to whoever doesn’t get Fuentes for a minor prospect, but besides that I really don’t see Beane making any more moves (which is disappointing). I would love to see Street on his way elsewhere, and I wouldn’t mind Ellis being traded if we were getting a very good return for him. Here’s hoping we can convince someone to give us a good left-side infield prospect and pitcher for Street.

by Gallagher's Watermelons on Jul 22, 2008 12:21 AM PDT   0 recs

White Sox

I think they’re looking for right handed relievers, so I doubt they’d be keen on Embree.

The 2009 A's draft pick... getting higher every game.

by rebus on Jul 22, 2008 2:24 AM PDT   0 recs

Thanks, very good summation

ZIPS: Milledge: 466 HR, 485 2B, 2282 hits, 278-379-524

by rfloh on Jul 22, 2008 3:03 AM PDT   0 recs

You can take Foulke, Brown and Bowen off the list

Nobody’s giving anything up for those fools

by jshaw25 on Jul 22, 2008 5:38 AM PDT   0 recs

sf giants type trades

for foulke, brown and bowen i would pull a giants style trade and deal those guys for lower-level and alledgedly low-ceiling prospects. doesn’t look like we’re going anywhere this year so we might as well get something for these guys. who knows, maybe one of the “low-ceiling” prospects turns into something…

by gogoldenbears on Jul 22, 2008 8:23 AM PDT to parent up   0 recs

Why even bother dealing Bowen?

I mean, we need SOMEBODY to give Suzuki a day off once in awhile.

by mikev on Jul 22, 2008 8:33 AM PDT to parent up   0 recs

We should catch Jason Kendall Syndrome before it hits

Next thing we know, Suzuki will start getting sulky and pouty when he gets a day off ;]

Stuck on Buck :)

by GreenNGoldGirl on Jul 22, 2008 10:55 AM PDT to parent up   0 recs

I'll ask this again here, maybe its a better place

Since we have had a little recent success pulling "AAAA" out of the minors (see: Jack Cust), what about taking a flyer on Andy Marte? Yes, he hasn’t been so great in 300+ at bats in the majors, but his minor league numbers aren’t bad, and he does fill a position of need. Plus, the fact that his MLB record isn’t that good means he’s cheap, but 300 at bats isn’t enough to really judge him. Plus, he’s still only 24, so it’s not like he’s all that old…

"I talked to Paul this morning and asked if he could acquire some chemistry from another GM whose team is out of the race. But I'm concerned chemistry might not clear waivers."
--Beane

by DyeLongJustice on Jul 22, 2008 6:44 AM PDT   0 recs

Also

what about Dallas Mcpherson (courtesy of Flipgatey3) or even signing Corey Koskie to a minor league contract to see what he has left?

"I talked to Paul this morning and asked if he could acquire some chemistry from another GM whose team is out of the race. But I'm concerned chemistry might not clear waivers."
--Beane

by DyeLongJustice on Jul 22, 2008 6:45 AM PDT to parent up   0 recs

or Andy Laroche

"I talked to Paul this morning and asked if he could acquire some chemistry from another GM whose team is out of the race. But I'm concerned chemistry might not clear waivers."
--Beane

by DyeLongJustice on Jul 22, 2008 6:48 AM PDT to parent up   0 recs

did you just say laroche is AAAA?

A's v Giants "is kind of like the difference between going to see the Ramones and going to see the Bee Gees. A's fans will go see the Ramones." -BB 07/27/05

by xbhaskarx on Jul 22, 2008 5:00 PM PDT to parent up   0 recs

ya my bad...i added that in later

"I talked to Paul this morning and asked if he could acquire some chemistry from another GM whose team is out of the race. But I'm concerned chemistry might not clear waivers."
--Beane

by DyeLongJustice on Jul 23, 2008 5:53 AM PDT to parent up   0 recs

thanks for the credit dude

"It's not my fault your team's so shitty." -Steve Friend, head coach, Chabot College, to Laney College's head coach, who asked why we scored so many runs after we beat Laney 30-3 in 2006

by flipgatey3 on Jul 22, 2008 6:46 PM PDT to parent up   0 recs

Cust showed he could actually hit in the minors

Marte hasn’t proven he can hit AAA pitching, much less big league arms.

The monster at the end of this blog.

by grover on Jul 22, 2008 7:06 AM PDT to parent up   0 recs

yes

"It's not my fault your team's so shitty." -Steve Friend, head coach, Chabot College, to Laney College's head coach, who asked why we scored so many runs after we beat Laney 30-3 in 2006

by flipgatey3 on Jul 22, 2008 6:46 PM PDT to parent up   0 recs

Here's our answer:

Street to LA
Corsby to LA

LaRoche to Oak
De Jesus to Oak

Don’t piss around with any other people. Those 4 work well for both teams.

"I'm not going to buy my kids an encyclopedia. Let them walk to school like I did." -Yogi Berra

by brenarlo on Jul 22, 2008 7:26 AM PDT   0 recs

Works for me. Where do I sign?

I don’t have my cell phone with me at work, so I can’t get ahold of Beane or Colletti, but I’m sure they’re good for it.

by mikev on Jul 22, 2008 7:52 AM PDT to parent up   0 recs

So Chavez and LaRoche share 3B/DH duties?

I am Ray Fosse's man crushes for Clay Wood and Jason Kendall.

by franks a lot on Jul 22, 2008 8:02 AM PDT to parent up   0 recs

Chavez go to the old folks home...

"I'm not going to buy my kids an encyclopedia. Let them walk to school like I did." -Yogi Berra

by brenarlo on Jul 22, 2008 8:07 AM PDT to parent up   0 recs

Laroche replaces Eric, Eric replaces Casey

The A's colors are green and gold.

by mikeA on Jul 22, 2008 8:57 AM PDT to parent up   0 recs

ouch

Who needs competence as long as everyone smiles? @('.')@

by monkeyball on Jul 22, 2008 9:40 AM PDT to parent up   0 recs

I need to borrow money from vacafan....

The A's colors are green and gold.

by mikeA on Jul 22, 2008 9:42 AM PDT to parent up   0 recs

Where does Casey go?

When you have a chance to get a guy like Sean Gallagher, you take it!

by WaddellCanseco on Jul 22, 2008 9:49 AM PDT to parent up   0 recs

yes

I would rather gaze at that rotoworld thing that says “Dodgers interested in Crosby” than at a beautiful woman.

The A's colors are green and gold.

by mikeA on Jul 22, 2008 8:58 AM PDT to parent up   0 recs

1. It's Colletti

2. They’re pretty clearly wanting to win now.

3. It’s Colletti. They’ll probably give Crosby an extension.

by mikev on Jul 22, 2008 10:28 AM PDT to parent up   0 recs

I have found that praying for deliverance from a stupid GM

usually leaves me dissatisfied.

Your 2008 Athletics: It's Nothing Personal.

by PaulThomas on Jul 22, 2008 10:30 AM PDT to parent up   0 recs

My sleeper team for Street:

Detroit Tigers.

"I'm not going to buy my kids an encyclopedia. Let them walk to school like I did." -Yogi Berra

by brenarlo on Jul 22, 2008 8:08 AM PDT   0 recs

Brent Clevlen, Danny Worth, Luis Marte, Wilkin Ramirez

all seem interesting. Cale Iorg is supposed to be a prospect. And then there’s Porcello.

When you have a chance to get a guy like Sean Gallagher, you take it!

by WaddellCanseco on Jul 22, 2008 9:48 AM PDT to parent up   0 recs

That's Esteban Iorg

When you have a chance to get a guy like Sean Gallagher, you take it!

by WaddellCanseco on Jul 22, 2008 10:28 AM PDT to parent up   0 recs

Trade them all!

After losing our last 6, falling into 3rd place and being 9 games out of 1st and 6 games out of the wildcard (I apologize for putting salt in that wound), I personally don’t see much hope for the rest of this season. I personally want to play all the young guys and see how they respond in the majors. Also, hopefully a guy like Buck can pull out of his MASSIVE slump if we give him consistent playing time.

I would hate to see guys like Street (who is still young and I would keep-but I think we can get the most back for him), Duke, and Ellis go-there is not a better time to trade them. The more prospects we get—the better chance we have of some turning into something…

by gogoldenbears on Jul 22, 2008 8:29 AM PDT   0 recs

!!!!

Rotoworld says:
The San Francisco Chronicle reports that the Dodgers are interested in Huston Street following Takashi Saito’s injury.
The newspaper notes that the Dodgers have been scouting the A’s recently and may also be interested in Bobby Crosby as a replacement for Rafael Furcal. Along with news that Los Angeles may be showcasing Andy LaRoche for a trade, it sounds like something could be in the works.

'Who's that guy we had to release last year because he robbed a bank?'- Billy Beane
Sean Gallagher is my hero.

by Morgasm on Jul 22, 2008 9:42 AM PDT   0 recs

I hope this works....

Funny everytime I see that sidebar containing trade rumors, it comes to fore shortly thereafter. I’d be glad to see Street no more.

by arch on Jul 22, 2008 9:45 AM PDT to parent up   0 recs

If they've been scouting Street and Crosby, they must have run away screaming

When you have a chance to get a guy like Sean Gallagher, you take it!

by WaddellCanseco on Jul 22, 2008 9:54 AM PDT to parent up   0 recs

My dream semi-realistic trades

Street, Cust to Mets
Fernando Martinez, Wilmer Flores to A’s

Duke, Ellis, Swooney, Embree (three guys I really, really hate trading and Embree, so we have to get exactly what we want) to StL
Rasmus, Garcia, Reyes, Duncan, and Anderson to A’s

BoCro, Duncan to Pirates
Jack Wilson, Foulke to LAD
LaRoche to Oak

"Loyal? I'm the most loyal player money can buy." - Don Sutton

by vignette17 on Jul 22, 2008 9:48 AM PDT   0 recs

That second trade is ridonkulously lopsided

Your 2008 Athletics: It's Nothing Personal.

by PaulThomas on Jul 22, 2008 10:30 AM PDT to parent up   0 recs

What if the A's ask really nicely?

"Loyal? I'm the most loyal player money can buy." - Don Sutton

by vignette17 on Jul 22, 2008 11:45 AM PDT to parent up   0 recs

All three trades are pretty lopsided. I'm not sure where the Ridonkulous Line is though.

When you have a chance to get a guy like Sean Gallagher, you take it!

by WaddellCanseco on Jul 22, 2008 11:56 AM PDT to parent up   0 recs

Is that above or below the Mendoza Line?

Wait, never mind—here are his stats.

Who needs competence as long as everyone smiles? @('.')@

by monkeyball on Jul 22, 2008 12:42 PM PDT to parent up   0 recs

Hee hee. I liked that.

When you have a chance to get a guy like Sean Gallagher, you take it!

by WaddellCanseco on Jul 22, 2008 1:25 PM PDT to parent up   0 recs

Who are the "Devil Rays"?

When you have a chance to get a guy like Sean Gallagher, you take it!

by WaddellCanseco on Jul 22, 2008 9:53 AM PDT   0 recs

Josh Fields?

___
From today’s Chicago Sun-Times:
“A source has indicated the Sox have been in discussions with ’’more than one’’ team about adding pitching help, either in the rotation or bullpen - or possibly both - and the major discussion is whether they dare part ways with minor-league third baseman Josh Fields. According to the source, unless they are willing to part ways with Fields, there is no deal to be made. Basically, do they forfeit the future at third base to chase October glory this season?”
____
Given their history, it’s safe to assume that at least the lines of communication between Beane and Williams are wide open. Fields would seem an ideal addition at this point for the A’s. A right-handed power bat that’s a natural 3B but with the athleticism to potentially play LF at this stage of his career.

With Pale Hose closer Bobby Jenks just returning from a DL stint, I would think a lot would depend on how his back responds over the next week, but a combo involving Street and Fields seems like at least a possibility. This is pure speculation and rosterbation, but I doubt that Street alone would fetch Fields, who despite struggling both with injuries and at the plate this year, has shown the ability to hit for significant power at the ML level and would be under team control for several more years than Street.

Anyway, just thought I’d float that out there, since Fields seems like an ideal potential addition.

by SlideJeremy! on Jul 22, 2008 9:54 AM PDT   0 recs

I agree but with the addition of "much" between "I'd" and "rather"

I’m not too interested in Fields at all.

The A's colors are green and gold.

by mikeA on Jul 22, 2008 10:04 AM PDT to parent up   0 recs

Fields's numbers don't look all that impressive

25 years old in AAA
24 BB – 74 K
24 XBH – 74 K
.788 OPS – .748 Team OPS

He was pretty good with the Sox last year, but he doesn’t seem to have improved.

Jack Egbert seems like Beane’s kinda guy though.

When you have a chance to get a guy like Sean Gallagher, you take it!

by WaddellCanseco on Jul 22, 2008 10:05 AM PDT to parent up   0 recs

Also...

He was maybe “pretty good” last year, but “decent” is a better description. 101 OPS+, his defense is apparently below average. So, last year he was worse than…. Hannahan. But Hannahan sucks and is having a terrible year this year with an OPS+ of 82 (.225/.318/.337). But wait, Fields’s MLE for Oakland this year is .204/.267/.361, again worse than Hannahan. Now, I’d rather have Fields than Hannahan, probably, but the point is I wouldn’t give up jack shit for Fields.

The A's colors are green and gold.

by mikeA on Jul 22, 2008 10:23 AM PDT to parent up   0 recs

Hannahan seems better defensively than Fields

When you have a chance to get a guy like Sean Gallagher, you take it!

by WaddellCanseco on Jul 22, 2008 10:29 AM PDT to parent up   0 recs

when did you become a Kust H8r?!?

Who needs competence as long as everyone smiles? @('.')@

by monkeyball on Jul 22, 2008 10:30 AM PDT to parent up   0 recs

pardon?

The A's colors are green and gold.

by mikeA on Jul 22, 2008 10:32 AM PDT to parent up   0 recs

last line

Who needs competence as long as everyone smiles? @('.')@

by monkeyball on Jul 22, 2008 10:50 AM PDT to parent up   0 recs

no "K" in "shit"

The A's colors are green and gold.

by mikeA on Jul 22, 2008 11:05 AM PDT to parent up   0 recs

I think he translated "jack shit" as "Cust"

I like Cindi. A. She never pretends to know more than she does. B. She has unbridled enthusiasm for her "Hotties," and isn't afraid to show it. -IM4Oakgal

by Nico on Jul 22, 2008 11:01 AM PDT to parent up   0 recs

I'm hoping for an all namephreak team

Outman pitching, Fields at 3B, the two Weeks on the DL …

Who needs competence as long as everyone smiles? @('.')@

by monkeyball on Jul 22, 2008 10:19 AM PDT to parent up   0 recs

We have a Jack Kust....

plus a closer who frequents the Blown St.

by arch on Jul 22, 2008 10:23 AM PDT to parent up   0 recs

I know, I know ...

... most of you (at least xbx and mikeA, by my guess) would prefer the Two Weeks in Another Town ...

Who needs competence as long as everyone smiles? @('.')@

by monkeyball on Jul 22, 2008 10:28 AM PDT to parent up   0 recs

We would still need to trade for Darren O'Day

because two Weeks on the DL is not quite enough.

I like Cindi. A. She never pretends to know more than she does. B. She has unbridled enthusiasm for her "Hotties," and isn't afraid to show it. -IM4Oakgal

by Nico on Jul 22, 2008 11:02 AM PDT to parent up   0 recs

Is he a baseball player?

He sounds like a game show host.

When you have a chance to get a guy like Sean Gallagher, you take it!

by WaddellCanseco on Jul 22, 2008 11:03 AM PDT to parent up   0 recs

Last night I'm pretty sure the Angels had

Darren O’Day and Bert Convy throwing in the bullpen.

I like Cindi. A. She never pretends to know more than she does. B. She has unbridled enthusiasm for her "Hotties," and isn't afraid to show it. -IM4Oakgal

by Nico on Jul 22, 2008 11:05 AM PDT to parent up   0 recs

If you crossed Darren O'Day with Harry Belafonte you'd get

Day-O’Day

When you have a chance to get a guy like Sean Gallagher, you take it!

by WaddellCanseco on Jul 22, 2008 11:23 AM PDT to parent up   0 recs

if it's a really serious injury, maybe Gotay DL?

Who needs competence as long as everyone smiles? @('.')@

by monkeyball on Jul 22, 2008 12:44 PM PDT to parent up   0 recs

Quid pro quo
who despite struggling both with injuries and at the plate this year,

I don’t think that trading for an injury prone 3rd baseman to replace another injury prone 3rd baseman is a good idea.

by sec119 on Jul 22, 2008 10:48 AM PDT to parent up   0 recs

Well that was certainly careless

I like Cindi. A. She never pretends to know more than she does. B. She has unbridled enthusiasm for her "Hotties," and isn't afraid to show it. -IM4Oakgal

by Nico on Jul 22, 2008 11:03 AM PDT to parent up   0 recs

better his hand/wrist

than his sandwich

Beane's World!! Excellent!!! Rock On, Beane! Rock On, Geren!

by Satchmo22 on Jul 22, 2008 11:47 AM PDT to parent up   0 recs

omg, that was chavy's first serious injury!

A's v Giants "is kind of like the difference between going to see the Ramones and going to see the Bee Gees. A's fans will go see the Ramones." -BB 07/27/05

by xbhaskarx on Jul 22, 2008 5:18 PM PDT to parent up   0 recs

Street's value rises as other closers go down

It seems that many of the contending teams’ closers are injured, experiencing discomfort, or not pitching particularly well. The market for Street is heating up because the number of buyers for a closer is increasing (see Saito and Wagner from yesterday). If the Rays hang around and Percival can’t return to form, that’s another team that would need to make a move.

During the Cards/Brewers game on ESPN last night, I was cheering for the Cards to score off Torres, which happened. Based on the Brewers trade for Sabathia, they can’t sit back and feel comfortable that Torres is their answer.

Hopefully the in