Monday Midnight Minors Musings: Who's Hot/Who's Not Edition
Both Zonis and PaulThomas have published very thorough and enlightening mid-season top prospects lists over the past week or so. I won't try to step on their toes, except to say that when I started making my own list, I eventually settled on making two seperate lists: 1 for the top prospects based purely on this season's performance and 1 based purely on future potential. Inevitably, there is some carry-over between two such lists, but I thought such a separation of thought was apt with the organization in such a state of flux at this time. So here I go:
Performance List
1. RHP Trevor Cahill - No pitcher in the entire minor leagues has raised his stock more than Cahill has this season. His mastery of the Cal League in the 1st half was just unbelievable.
2. LHP Brett Anderson - Just as impressive as Cahill performance-wise, minus the thumb injury.
3. RHP Vince Mazzaro - After wobbling through Stockton last season, no one expected Vince to dominate the Texas League. Yet he has and really upped his prospect status.
4. 1B Sean Doolittle - So much for those who questioned his power potential.
5. DH Chris Carter - The K's are concerning, but he's absolutely hammered the ball like he supposed to, approaching a .600 slugging percentage.
6. CF Aaron Cunningham - Aaron has really bounced back from his wrist surgery and, although he's been a very streaky hitter, his overall numbers are solid.
7. 2B Adrian Cardenas - Guess you have to include him since he's now officially part of the organization. Was having an impressive season before coming over, especially by hitting a TON of line drives.
8. RHP James Simmons - As a 21-year old pitching in Double-A, his strikeout numbers and control are outstanding. Still very hittable, which hurts his overall upside.
9. RHP Sam Demel - Andrew Carignan might be closing ahead of him at Double-A, but Sam's performance at High-A has been unbelievable: 12.7 K/9 is sickening.
10. OF Corey Brown - He still has major contact issues, but his power numbers, defense and baserunning were all very impressive for Kane County.

Potential List
1. RHP Trevor Cahill - Definitely showing that his floor is probably a solid #2 on a good major league staff.
2. LHP Brett Anderson - If he can consistently hit 93-94mph with his fastball, can be an ace.
3. LHP Gio Gonzalez - Inconsistency is concerning, but the good stuff and strikeout numbers are still there. Probably projects as a good #2 starter on a major league staff.
4. RHP Michel Inoa - Not sure what to expect from him at this point, but with many scouts thinking he can get Low-A hitters out now, you gotta think his potential is astronomical.
5. DH Chris Carter - The only player in the system with a legitimate chance to hit 30+ homers in the major leagues.
6. RHP Henry Rodriguez - He bombed in Double-A, but he's still only 21 and has the best pure arm in the system.
7. CF Aaron Cunningham - If he can hack-it in center long-term, he'll be a helluva major league asset.
8. 1B Sean Doolittle - Solid defender at 1st who should hit between 20-25 homers for several years in the bigs.
9. 2B Adrian Cardenas - Great line-drive contact hitter, but lack of power potential and so-so defense limits his upside.
10. RHP Craig Italiano - Great arm who dominated at Kane County but is getting rocked in Stockton. Still has electric stuff and is young.
Kind of a polyglot couple of lists, I know, but it all made sense to me!
Who's Hot/Who's Not
Sacramento RiverCats
HOT - 2B/OF Eric Patterson: I would say that batting .417 with 9 extra basehits in 36 total at-bats, 9 RBIs, 11 runs and 8 stolen bases since joining his new organization qualifies as hot. He still needs to find enough of a defensive home to make himself useful on a major league roster, but with the likes of Jack Hannahan, Brooks Conrad and Rajai Davis ahead of him in Oakland, he shouldn't have to wait too long to get a chance with the big club in a reserve role.
NOT - RHP Jeff Gray: After leading the AAA Champion Cats last season in saves and anchoring the bullpen all year, things were looking up for Gray. He was clocked in the mid-90s with his sinking fastball and he was added to the 40-man roster in the off-season. But this year Gray has looked like a completely different pitcher and has therefore seen non-roster players (Ziggy) beat him to the majors this season. Gray has only 1 save on the year as he's just getting hit way too hard (61 hits in 46 innings, .313 average against) and now has an ugly 5.05 ERA on the year. Gray's control hasn't ever been all that great and his K/9 is not very impressive for a late-inning reliever, so I'm guessing he might be in line to be removed from the 40-man soon, especially with hot-shots like Carignan and Demel zooming up through the relief-pitching depth chart.
Midland Rockhounds
*Note - LHP Josh Outman (from the Blanton trade) made his debut for the organization tonight for Midland and got rocked, only lasting 1.1 innings, giving up 3 runs on 2 hits, 3 walks and no strikeouts. Yikes!
HOT - RHP Andrew Carignan: The Midland closer has 5 saves in his last 10 games and has only allowed runs in 2 of those 10 appearances, for an ERA of 1.50 in that span, which was highlighted by a Herculian effort on July 1st where he went 2.2 innings, struck out 5 and got the win for the Hounds. What's been especially impressive during this hot streak is that Andrew, who's had well-documented control problems both this year and last, has really improved his control striking out 20 and only walking 5 in this latest streak.
NOT - OFer Javier Herrera: Look, this is Javy's 3rd go-round through Double-A and he just doesn't look like the dynamic 5-tooler he once was. At .240/.319/.346 with a few homers and extra base hits, Javy's probably doing just enough to stick on the roster, but with a full compliment of outfielders producing decently at Midland and Doolittle getting some reps out there Javy is definitely losing a lot of playing time and will probably be removed from the 40-man roster this off-season if he doesn't get his act together fast.
Stockton Ports
HOT - C Josh Donaldson: Man oh man, this kid has really turned around his season in a few short days with his new organization. He's already hit 4 homeruns in 10 games for the Ports! There's always room in the organization for a right-handed power hitter, no matter what position someone plays!
NOT - OF Jermaine Mitchell: I've always liked Mitchell as a player and thought he would do great things in the California League. And yet he has not and is really slumping lately. Over his past 10 games he's only batting .211 with only 3 walks and 12 strikeouts and one extra base-hit. His season totals have taken a hit as a result and now he's under a .700 OPS on the year. He's stealing bases at a decent rate (19 for 23) but he's not getting on-base enough to really exploit it. Luckily, Mitchell's a good enough defender to stick in center so his power numbers won't need to be huge for him to stay promising, but his season so far has been a big disappointment.
Kane County Cougars
HOT - SS Michael Richard: Since he was drafted last year, it has been easy to label Richard as somewhat of a novelty act; a small guy that can squeeze the strikezone, get on-base without the benefit of actual hitting skills, run like hell all across the basepaths and look horrible doing pretty much everything else. However, that's not the case anymore with Michael. He's still getting on base at a ridiculous clip (.417) but he's doing it with the benefit of both a great eye at the plate (24-20 BB-K) and a nice swing (.335 batting average, thanks to a 20% line-drive rate). He's also added a little power to his game (slugging .420 with 2 homers, not an easy thing to do in the Midwest League) and has kept up his relentless assault on the basepaths (27-for-33 in stolen bases). He's still a butcher in the field with 16 errors so far in only 48 games, but since he's taken steps forward with his power stroke, it will interesting to see if Michael can also improve with the glove enough to stay relevant in an organization that is suddenly placing a premium on speed.
NOT - LHP Anthony Capra: When I saw Capra start Wichita State's final game of the NCAA super regionals (when he got lit-up), I was unimpressed with his stuff and wondered why Beane would spend a 4th round pick on him. That curiosity continues in me today. Although he's only started 2 games for the Cougars for a grand total of 6 innings, they have been pretty bad innings. Capra's been very hittable (8 hits allowed, 2 of which were homers, .333 average against) and wild with 2 walks and 1 hit batter already. I shouldn't pass judgment so soon on the guy and he's probably just rusty from not starting in awhile, but everything I read about this guy said that he was a low-upside, decent lefty starter in college and that his ceiling was that of a middle-reliever at best. I just wanted a little more from a 4th rounder, that's all.
Vancouver Canadians
HOT - RHP Jose Guzman: Guzman is a product of the A's Domincan program and he is putting up some impressive number for Vancouver in a relief role. He's got a 0.48 ERA with a 0.91 WHiP in 18.2 innings, 7 saves and 20-5 K-BB ratio so far. He could become the next Jairo Garcia!
NOT - OF Jeremy Barfield: Yes, son of Jesse and brother of Josh. Jeremy was a pretty highly-touted signing for the A's this year as a power-righty bat with good athleticism in the field. Unfortunately, Jeremy's not producing very much at all at the plate, with a meager .607 OPS (which is what will happen to your numbers when over 60% of your balls in play are groundballs and your name is not Ichiro Suzuki.) Jeremy is 3rd on the team in RBIs with 11 and the season is still very young, so things can turn around quickly for him, if he starts getting the ball off the ground.
A's Prospects in the News
1. Baseball America ran a bunch of press about A's prospects over the past week:
-Chris Carter, Vince Mazzaro & Josh Donaldson were all included in last week's Prospect Hot Sheet.
- In the Hot Sheet chat JJ Cooper thinks that A's now have the deepest collection of pitching talent, just edging out Tampa - which probably has the edge in pure talent though - and in discussing the Harden and Blanton hauls Cooper points out that in Cardenas the A's netted a true "impact"-type player that was missing in the Harden trade.
- In Jim Callis's ASK BA Chat, Jim points out that Weeks is likely the long-term heir apparent at 2nd base, since he's the best defender, has the best speed on the basepaths and is just a good a hitter as Cardenas or Patterson. He goes on to speculate that Patterson will end up as a utility man while Cardenas will end up at 3rd.
- Matt Eddy's breakdown of the Joe Blanton haul doesn't really tell us anything we don't know: Cardenas is a great line-drive hitter with good pop but average defense, Outman is a deception-oriented lefty that dominates left-handed batters and Spencer was a throw-in.
2. Kevin Goldstein over at BP usually has some interesting things to say about A's prospects and this past week was no exception:
- In his draft-update version of his weekly "Future Shock" feature Kevin mentions that the A's continue to scout and monitor 7th round draft pick Brett Hunter, a power righty out of Pepperdine, who is pitching for the Team USA National Collegiate Team. Kevin reports that Brett is healthy and is pitching wildly, but effectively, for the team and says that he wants $2 million to sign with the A's. I say just sign the guy. 2 mil is just a little more than what we're paying DFA Brown this season.
- In today's Monday Ten Pack Kevin highlights Aaron Cunningham and considers him like a right-handed Travis Buck. Gotta disagree with him there. Aaron's finding his power stroke after his earlier wrist injury and he's hit more homers and stolen more bases at a slightly younger playing age than Buck at similar levels. From everything I've heard, he's also a legit center fielder, which Buck is not.
3. Alex Eisenberg, who runs the excellent site BaseballIntellect.com, recently profiled Gallagher, Murton, Patterson and Donaldson using his trademarked slow-mo video breakdowns. He has some very encouraging things to say about each of these guys with some evidence to back it up.
Alex has been in contact with me for a few weeks now and he's interested in delving into the A's farm system with some more in-depth video analysis (which would be AWESOME), so hopefully we can put something together to get that going in the coming weeks. Thanks Alex!
I'll be heading to Rancho Cucamonga on Thursday night to check out the Ports on their final trip to Quakes Stadium. Next week I'll be sure to post some pics and some observations about all the new guys on the Ports' roster!
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Nice write up Taj.
I’d recommend but you’re already on the Front Page!
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by grover on Jul 21, 2008 11:07 PM PDT 0 recs
Great Work.
In times like these for the big club is nice to read great things about the farm system. Love the pitching depth but I hope we get 1 or 2 impact bat prospects if Duke or Street is traded.
"With 16-year-old Dominican righty Michel Inoa in tow, Gio Gonzalez improving at Triple-A and lefty Brett Anderson carving up Double-Abatters along with Simmons and Trevor Cahill, Oakland’s pitching depthis officially the envy of baseball." - BaseballAmerica.com
by Syphon on Jul 21, 2008 11:11 PM PDT 0 recs
As excited as I am to finally see RH power...
I can wait for Carter if he can learn a passable OF/1B/3B, especially given his contact issues. With the state of our system, it would raise his value tremendously if he could at least be servicable as a 3B. I won’t hold my breath on that, but I could see him at least becoming a Cust/Stairs-level OF, which isn’t saying much. However, alongside Sweeney & Carlos, we could tolerate a few years of Carter as a replacement-level OF. I know I’m way ahead of myself, as he’s only had a few games in the pasture, but that shouldn’t be too much to ask.
As usual, great work, Taj.
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by RyanFromBonas on Jul 21, 2008 11:13 PM PDT 0 recs
i’ve been asking all season… who the hell is jeff gray?
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by xbhaskarx on Jul 21, 2008 11:20 PM PDT 0 recs
Hes tha man with nakes pictures of Beane.
"With 16-year-old Dominican righty Michel Inoa in tow, Gio Gonzalez improving at Triple-A and lefty Brett Anderson carving up Double-Abatters along with Simmons and Trevor Cahill, Oakland’s pitching depthis officially the envy of baseball." - BaseballAmerica.com
by Syphon on
Jul 21, 2008 11:23 PM PDT
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Wow Beane really needs to keep his fly buttoned.
When you have a chance to get a guy like Sean Gallagher, you take it!
by WaddellCanseco on
Jul 22, 2008 12:42 PM PDT
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He stands neither in the light or the shadow, but on the edge
In the Gray.
The monster at the end of this blog.
by grover on
Jul 21, 2008 11:24 PM PDT
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also, i still don’t believe javier herrera actually exists.
the photo looks like andruw jones. and so do the stats.
A's v Giants "is kind of like the difference between going to see the Ramones and going to see the Bee Gees. A's fans will go see the Ramones." -BB 07/27/05
by xbhaskarx on Jul 21, 2008 11:24 PM PDT 0 recs
If only they looked like Andruw's stats at that age
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by PaulThomas on
Jul 22, 2008 10:04 AM PDT
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I've been thinking this same thing for about 4 years now
I’m pretty sure fans of Midland have never seen him either, and he’s supposedly been playing there for three or so years now.
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by thejd44 on
Jul 22, 2008 10:46 AM PDT
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Great job Taj Adib!
How many of these comparisons actually work:
Trevor Cahill – Tim Hudson
Brett Anderson – Mark Mulder (but shorter)
Gio Gonzalez – Barry Zito
Michel Inoa – Rich Harden
Chris Carter – Dave Kingman
Henry Rodriguez – Todd Van Poppel
Aaron Cunningham – Eric Byrnes
Sean Doolittle – Scott Hatteberg
Adrian Cardenas – Wayne Gross
Craig Italiano – Chad Harville
When you have a chance to get a guy like Sean Gallagher, you take it!
by WaddellCanseco on Jul 21, 2008 11:47 PM PDT 0 recs
My comparisons
Trevor Cahill – Brandon Webb
Brett Anderson – Shorter Mulder is solid I guess. I think Pettitte also, but with less walks.
Gio Gonzalez – The good Zito
Michael Inoa – I don’t know. This kid doesn’t have a comparison. Obviously he more likely than not will not fulfill his FULL potential, but if this kid got every bit of his talent out there he could be the most talented pitcher of this generation. He’ll probably end up 6’ 9” or so with a 97-98 MPH fastball and a couple nasty secondary pitches
Chris Carter – Lance Berkman
Henry Rodriguez – Joel Zumaya
Aaron Cunningham – Nate McLouth
Sean Doolittle – Casey Kotchman
Adrian Cardenas – Robinson Cano having a good season
Craig Italiano – Bah. I don’t know what to think of this kid. Getting whacked around at high-A doesn’t help. Pass.
Additionally:
by Gallagher's Watermelons on Jul 22, 2008 12:34 AM PDT 0 recs
Inoa-Dwight Gooden?
"I talked to Paul this morning and asked if he could acquire some chemistry from another GM whose team is out of the race. But I'm concerned chemistry might not clear waivers."
--Beane
by DyeLongJustice on
Jul 22, 2008 6:55 AM PDT
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Sounds more like J.R. Richards to me.
"And Julio Franco is batting right-handed!" -- Wayne Hagin, A's radio play-by-play, mid-80s
by Nick on
Jul 22, 2008 8:38 AM PDT
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Hmm...Cocaine habit or stroke?
Tough choice.
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by Nico on
Jul 22, 2008 9:27 AM PDT
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He's also really tall
When you have a chance to get a guy like Sean Gallagher, you take it!
by WaddellCanseco on
Jul 22, 2008 12:07 PM PDT
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Those are some (very) optimistic comparisons.
"We were s--, pathetic," Guillen growled early in spring training. "We hit too many home runs."
by lenscrafters on
Jul 22, 2008 3:57 PM PDT
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Hmmm
Chris Carter – Lance Berkman
Nope. I dont see it.
"With 16-year-old Dominican righty Michel Inoa in tow, Gio Gonzalez improving at Triple-A and lefty Brett Anderson carving up Double-Abatters along with Simmons and Trevor Cahill, Oakland’s pitching depthis officially the envy of baseball." - BaseballAmerica.com
by Syphon on Jul 22, 2008 1:12 AM PDT 0 recs
The absence of a left-handed batting stance kind of damages that comp
I think of him as a right-handed version of Ryan Howard. TTO guy with plus-plus power.
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by PaulThomas on
Jul 22, 2008 10:06 AM PDT
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We can only hope he turns into a RH Ryan Howard.
"With 16-year-old Dominican righty Michel Inoa in tow, Gio Gonzalez improving at Triple-A and lefty Brett Anderson carving up Double-Abatters along with Simmons and Trevor Cahill, Oakland’s pitching depthis officially the envy of baseball." - BaseballAmerica.com
by Syphon on
Jul 22, 2008 11:35 AM PDT
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I'm certainly hoping that -- or Ralph Kiner
When you have a chance to get a guy like Sean Gallagher, you take it!
by WaddellCanseco on
Jul 22, 2008 12:08 PM PDT
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Well, sure
Most minor leaguers don’t turn out to be like the guys they resemble in the minors, because the major leagues are much harder.
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by PaulThomas on
Jul 23, 2008 12:14 AM PDT
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Wow you are really drinking that Haterade on Buck!! HAter!!
AHHHH! I left the stove on!!!
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by LiZaRdReVoLuTiOn on Jul 22, 2008 6:29 AM PDT 0 recs
Haha! J/K! lol It's early, what can I say!
AHHHH! I left the stove on!!!
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by LiZaRdReVoLuTiOn on
Jul 22, 2008 6:48 AM PDT
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i really liked the format of this article
"I talked to Paul this morning and asked if he could acquire some chemistry from another GM whose team is out of the race. But I'm concerned chemistry might not clear waivers."
--Beane
by DyeLongJustice on Jul 22, 2008 7:01 AM PDT 0 recs
Question for those who may know...
Cardenas and Patterson seem like guys who could be really good if they just played average to above average defense. What are the chances for each to improve defensively enough to be average or better defensively in the big leagues – and at what position do they have the best chance?
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by Nico on Jul 22, 2008 9:29 AM PDT 0 recs
It's almost a certainty. Once they're both called up and Wash gets ahold of them, GG city!!!
oh wait..
by mikev on
Jul 22, 2008 9:31 AM PDT
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Bring Back Wash!
I think thats the most dissappointing thing with the success of the Rangers… they won’t give Wash the boot for another season or two of mediocrity at the very least.
The Stockton Ports pitching staff is better than the Orioles.
by gdub171 on
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Preface by saying I haven't seen them play
(unlike Weeks, who I saw 3 or 4 times in college ball). This is all off scouting reports.
That said, I think Cardenas will ultimately become an average 3B. He doesn’t have great range and his arm strength would only be average or below for the position, but otherwise he’s a guy with considerably more athleticism than your average 3B. I agree with Callis (how’d that happen?) that 3B is where he will end up.
Patterson… I mean, there isn’t much you can do about a guy with a stone glove. He’s fast, but if you get to the ball and don’t make a play on it, it doesn’t help much. I think he can be an average overall player but if he is it’ll be carried by his bat.
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by PaulThomas on
Jul 22, 2008 10:11 AM PDT
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I saw Weeks make 1 play in college ball, and it was a horrific error,
and he already has somewhere between 50 and 60 errors in first few weeks (heh, “weeks”) at Kane County…
Note: this is just my own tangent, not some implication that you think Weeks is good at defense.
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by mikeA on
Jul 22, 2008 10:28 AM PDT
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Is Patterson merely crappy on defense or does he also lack defensive tools?
I’ve heard his main drawback was lack of arm and erraticness
When you have a chance to get a guy like Sean Gallagher, you take it!
by WaddellCanseco on
Jul 22, 2008 12:09 PM PDT
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lacking an arm is a real handycap
Beane's World!! Excellent!!! Rock On, Beane! Rock On, Geren!
by Satchmo22 on
Jul 22, 2008 1:56 PM PDT
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Nah. It just made Pete Gray and Jim Abbott stronger
When you have a chance to get a guy like Sean Gallagher, you take it!
by WaddellCanseco on
Jul 22, 2008 3:31 PM PDT
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Cardenas
is still only 20. He has plenty of time to work on his defense in the minors. Plus he can absolutely rake, so I see him up to the big club by 2010 as a september call up. Patterson should be in the bigs right now, he can hit unlike Hannahan. Sure his defense isn’t great but the A’s need some hitting and they need it fast. I’d throw him in left field, I mean we have used Cust there haven’t we, Patterson can’t be any worse than he is.
Fremont here we come!
by In Beane we trust on Jul 22, 2008 9:43 AM PDT 0 recs
+1
Patterson looks like a guy who could ignite an offense (or in this case perhaps stand around as a lonely brush fire). Any team with Bankston and Conrad in the lineup, prototype AAAA players, should be able to find a place for a guy like Patterson.
by boilerdan on
Jul 22, 2008 10:06 AM PDT
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I wonder what the A's thinking is on not calling Patterson up
There’s no service time consideration, right? Clearly he merits a call up based on his hitting, prior and current. And we’re running guys like Hannahan, Conrad, E. Brown out there – so why wouldn’t he get a look, even if it’s in LF to see if he can “learn on the job”? I hope it’s not that he’ll be the every day 2Bman starting on August 1st.
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by Nico on
Jul 22, 2008 10:54 AM PDT
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Either he'll be traded or he'll be the 2B on Aug 1
I can’t see him as a utility player, since he can only play a couple of positions. Even Tony Phillips had arm enough for 3B and RF. And when he was 25 he could play SS sort of.
When you have a chance to get a guy like Sean Gallagher, you take it!
by WaddellCanseco on
Jul 22, 2008 12:11 PM PDT
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Where's he been playing in Sac?
It’s possible that they want him to play second base, and the Unicorn is still in Oakland.
by mikev on
Jul 22, 2008 12:11 PM PDT
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he's been playing 2nd every game
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by athleticsBB4life on
Jul 22, 2008 12:21 PM PDT
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So that explains why he's not up yet.
At least they’re not jerking him around like Petit, and he is playing every day.
by mikev on
Jul 22, 2008 12:52 PM PDT
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Nice work as usual, Taj
Particularly a fan of the digest version of “what the critics are saying.” That’s a huge time-saver and very helpful.
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by PaulThomas on Jul 22, 2008 10:12 AM PDT 0 recs
all the A's prospects in the news sites need to be added to the list of sites that
are on AN for easy visits. This article gets a top 10 nominie for June and july. so much usefull information.
by TheLC on Jul 22, 2008 9:37 PM PDT 0 recs
Best article I've seen on AN in quite some time
It’s nice to get more facts and less opinions sometimes. Does anyone else get tired of the griping? I am totally excited about the future of the franchise.
by cosmoknot on Jul 24, 2008 12:07 PM PDT 0 recs


















