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Open Game Thread - Game 99: A's @ Rays (cont)

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Same old story, same old song for the A's offense.

On the other side, Eveland was fine until the fourth, when he allowed two more runs (including a homerun that was crushed), but there doesn't seem to be a lot of difference between 1-0 or 3-0 (current score).

The offense can't get off the deck against Kazmir. At least he's supposed to shut people out.

We go to the fifth for another try.

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Let's go A's!

"God doesn't pay attention to your cute little hypotheticals." -- Jeff from LL

by oblique on Jul 21, 2008 5:33 PM PDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Well good luck everyone and go A's but

supper and work require me to wish everyone a goodnight and a great comeback

by A'sfaninNC on Jul 21, 2008 5:34 PM PDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Take care.

I forget that most of these commenters are probably on the West Coast.

by Terrekain on Jul 21, 2008 5:36 PM PDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Pics up:

http://flickr.com/photos/mrzeising/sets/72157606301751206/

A’s @ Yanks, yesterday
Mostly Swoon, lotsa Croz, some Ellie, Cargon, Duke, Brown, Eveland, Street, etc.

by schmifty on Jul 21, 2008 5:36 PM PDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Good times

Great game on both sides.

by Terrekain on Jul 21, 2008 5:38 PM PDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

The fans were pretty chill, I was impressed

I’ve been to Yankees games before, so I should’ve known… but I was impressed anyways

by schmifty on Jul 21, 2008 5:39 PM PDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

BTW - God, do Yanks fans LOVE Joba or what?!?

I feel like I saw 1 Joba shirt for every 1 shirt of anyone else…

by schmifty on Jul 21, 2008 5:41 PM PDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

They'll boo him next time he struggles

I like Cindi. A. She never pretends to know more than she does. B. She has unbridled enthusiasm for her "Hotties," and isn't afraid to show it. -IM4Oakgal

by Nico on Jul 21, 2008 5:42 PM PDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Thanks for sharing!

You can except me to share some of the Swooney love back when I see him in a couple of weeks :)

Photography Page | Flickr

by Kimberly on Jul 21, 2008 5:53 PM PDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Is that a quarter in Swooney's pocket?

Mark Ellis: sent down from Heaven to rob Evil of hits and hand out rainbows

by Jennifer on Jul 21, 2008 5:38 PM PDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

No, he's just happy to see you.

"God doesn't pay attention to your cute little hypotheticals." -- Jeff from LL

by oblique on Jul 21, 2008 5:39 PM PDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Yeah, I get that a lot.

Mark Ellis: sent down from Heaven to rob Evil of hits and hand out rainbows

by Jennifer on Jul 21, 2008 5:39 PM PDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

What, men tossing you quarters?

"God doesn't pay attention to your cute little hypotheticals." -- Jeff from LL

by oblique on Jul 21, 2008 5:40 PM PDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Well, obviously not people being happy to see her

I like Cindi. A. She never pretends to know more than she does. B. She has unbridled enthusiasm for her "Hotties," and isn't afraid to show it. -IM4Oakgal

by Nico on Jul 21, 2008 5:40 PM PDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Sure.

Mark Ellis: sent down from Heaven to rob Evil of hits and hand out rainbows

by Jennifer on Jul 21, 2008 5:40 PM PDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Can I have $10?

"God doesn't pay attention to your cute little hypotheticals." -- Jeff from LL

by oblique on Jul 21, 2008 5:41 PM PDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Is that 40 quarters,

or are you just happy to see her?

I like Cindi. A. She never pretends to know more than she does. B. She has unbridled enthusiasm for her "Hotties," and isn't afraid to show it. -IM4Oakgal

by Nico on Jul 21, 2008 5:41 PM PDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Shoulda waited for it :-)

"God doesn't pay attention to your cute little hypotheticals." -- Jeff from LL

by oblique on Jul 21, 2008 5:43 PM PDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

In quarters.

Mark Ellis: sent down from Heaven to rob Evil of hits and hand out rainbows

by Jennifer on Jul 21, 2008 5:42 PM PDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

I'm holding you to that...

"God doesn't pay attention to your cute little hypotheticals." -- Jeff from LL

by oblique on Jul 21, 2008 5:44 PM PDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Facials!

Mark Ellis: sent down from Heaven to rob Evil of hits and hand out rainbows

by Jennifer on Jul 21, 2008 5:41 PM PDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Haha!

Still, very cute!

Stomper is a badass!

by lynnzgal on Jul 21, 2008 5:44 PM PDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

I was right

Hinske and Crosby

facepalm.jpg

by Zonis on Jul 21, 2008 5:36 PM PDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

22 HR in 2004.

30 since in more than 1,400 at-bats.

"PECOTA can pretty much kiss my ass."-Nico

by jeepers on Jul 21, 2008 5:37 PM PDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Why are you still watching? The game's over

I like Cindi. A. She never pretends to know more than she does. B. She has unbridled enthusiasm for her "Hotties," and isn't afraid to show it. -IM4Oakgal

by Nico on Jul 21, 2008 5:38 PM PDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

This Kazmir guy is pretty good

The Rays made a good deal getting him.

When you have a chance to get a guy like Sean Gallagher, you take it!

by WaddellCanseco on Jul 21, 2008 5:37 PM PDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

And the Mets fans...

scream everytime they hear that.

by Terrekain on Jul 21, 2008 5:39 PM PDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

What a terrible trade for them

the “other” Zambrano

"If everything seems to be going well, you have obviously overlooked something."

by RIPHalsey on Jul 21, 2008 5:39 PM PDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Rick Peterson could fix that Zambrano

“in about thrity minutes..”

Yee-up!

"I never predict anything, and I never will." Paul Gascoigne, English footballer

by One won lost won on Jul 21, 2008 5:43 PM PDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

He never said which 30

I like Cindi. A. She never pretends to know more than she does. B. She has unbridled enthusiasm for her "Hotties," and isn't afraid to show it. -IM4Oakgal

by Nico on Jul 21, 2008 5:44 PM PDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

nah, fifteen

Thank god we (Mets) got rid of Peterson….
He made Pelfrey scrap his curveball with the explanation that “it’s like ketchup on ice cream”

by schmifty on Jul 21, 2008 5:45 PM PDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

mail order chiropracty

Had only about half hour more reading…hence the prediction time.

"I never predict anything, and I never will." Paul Gascoigne, English footballer

by One won lost won on Jul 21, 2008 5:51 PM PDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Oh good. I made Mets fans excited

When you have a chance to get a guy like Sean Gallagher, you take it!

by WaddellCanseco on Jul 21, 2008 5:40 PM PDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Conrad has struck out twice now

If he walks next time than he’s truly the new face of the A’s.

rebuildingseason.blogspot.com

by Rebuilding Season on Jul 21, 2008 5:38 PM PDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Meet the new face, same as the old face

When you have a chance to get a guy like Sean Gallagher, you take it!

by WaddellCanseco on Jul 21, 2008 5:39 PM PDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

After failing to put down a bunt, and

then limping out of the batter’s box, grimacing.

I like Cindi. A. She never pretends to know more than she does. B. She has unbridled enthusiasm for her "Hotties," and isn't afraid to show it. -IM4Oakgal

by Nico on Jul 21, 2008 5:39 PM PDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Why are any of us still watching?

I don’t see the appeal of this game. At least, not if you came to watch the A’s. There’s a good deal of appeal in the other dugout.

by Philip Christy on Jul 21, 2008 5:40 PM PDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

I was told to enjoy the young guys developing

When you have a chance to get a guy like Sean Gallagher, you take it!

by WaddellCanseco on Jul 21, 2008 5:41 PM PDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

If you don't like the rebuilding, stay out of the kitchen

That’s how it goes, right?

I like Cindi. A. She never pretends to know more than she does. B. She has unbridled enthusiasm for her "Hotties," and isn't afraid to show it. -IM4Oakgal

by Nico on Jul 21, 2008 5:43 PM PDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Is that what they're calling wind these days?

I like Cindi. A. She never pretends to know more than she does. B. She has unbridled enthusiasm for her "Hotties," and isn't afraid to show it. -IM4Oakgal

by Nico on Jul 21, 2008 5:43 PM PDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

No

But the A’s are laying some good ones today!

by Terrekain on Jul 21, 2008 5:44 PM PDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

You took my advice?

Was Black Snake Moan a comedy or a drama?

by ohtobe21likehuston on Jul 21, 2008 5:42 PM PDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Yes. But I don't see Dana developing

When you have a chance to get a guy like Sean Gallagher, you take it!

by WaddellCanseco on Jul 21, 2008 5:42 PM PDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

I turned off TV and Gameday

If I want to see strikeouts, the kids’ diamond is free and about 400 yards to walk to it.

"I never predict anything, and I never will." Paul Gascoigne, English footballer

by One won lost won on Jul 21, 2008 5:45 PM PDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Christ

4-0 home run Longoria.

rebuildingseason.blogspot.com

by Rebuilding Season on Jul 21, 2008 5:40 PM PDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

I could have hit that out

But I didn’t.

I like Cindi. A. She never pretends to know more than she does. B. She has unbridled enthusiasm for her "Hotties," and isn't afraid to show it. -IM4Oakgal

by Nico on Jul 21, 2008 5:41 PM PDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Ow. It hurts.

"God doesn't pay attention to your cute little hypotheticals." -- Jeff from LL

by oblique on Jul 21, 2008 5:41 PM PDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Well, at least...

Longoria is on my fantasy squad.

by Philip Christy on Jul 21, 2008 5:41 PM PDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

It's about that time

To start rooting for the fantasy squad I guess. I wonder if it’s that time for the whole season too.

rebuildingseason.blogspot.com

by Rebuilding Season on Jul 21, 2008 5:42 PM PDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Maybe the Red Sox will lose.

This is strategy. Help the Rays build an insurmountable division lead, then sneak up on the Red Sox and steal the wild card.

"PECOTA can pretty much kiss my ass."-Nico

by jeepers on Jul 21, 2008 5:42 PM PDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Longoria sure is a stud

Eveland is not.

Right down the middle and belt high.

by Trainman on Jul 21, 2008 5:42 PM PDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

At least the Yankees were nice enough to keep it close

When you have a chance to get a guy like Sean Gallagher, you take it!

by WaddellCanseco on Jul 21, 2008 5:42 PM PDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Well I think that was my cue to call it a night. Sushi time for my roommate birthday.

by justarebelheart on Jul 21, 2008 5:42 PM PDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Sushi...

I made a bet with a Red Sox fan.

Whoever’s team wins the division gets treated to an all-you-can-eat sushi DINNER.

I’m talking about a FLEET of those sushi boats.

by Terrekain on Jul 21, 2008 5:48 PM PDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Longoria mashes....

Goodness he can swing it

Bring back Hammer.

by OaktownPower on Jul 21, 2008 5:42 PM PDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Cue up the "Senator, you're no Evan Longoria" sound byte

I like Cindi. A. She never pretends to know more than she does. B. She has unbridled enthusiasm for her "Hotties," and isn't afraid to show it. -IM4Oakgal

by Nico on Jul 21, 2008 5:45 PM PDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

I'd like to hear "Senator, you're no Eva Longoria"

I knew Eva Longoria.
Eva Longoria was a….

When you have a chance to get a guy like Sean Gallagher, you take it!

by WaddellCanseco on Jul 21, 2008 5:46 PM PDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

I would trade half our team for EL.

So, bring on Bonds! Or, not... then, bring back Langerhans!! -One won lost one

by baseballgirl on Jul 21, 2008 5:42 PM PDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Including the ones schmifty took pictures of?

When you have a chance to get a guy like Sean Gallagher, you take it!

by WaddellCanseco on Jul 21, 2008 5:44 PM PDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

No. Their players are old and bad. Ours are young and bad.

When you have a chance to get a guy like Sean Gallagher, you take it!

by WaddellCanseco on Jul 21, 2008 5:45 PM PDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

And they're funnier.

"God doesn't pay attention to your cute little hypotheticals." -- Jeff from LL

by oblique on Jul 21, 2008 5:46 PM PDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Fuck you!

Mark Ellis: sent down from Heaven to rob Evil of hits and hand out rainbows

by Jennifer on Jul 21, 2008 5:46 PM PDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

I see what you mean

When you have a chance to get a guy like Sean Gallagher, you take it!

by WaddellCanseco on Jul 21, 2008 5:47 PM PDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Patience!

I know we think we’ve already had enough.

Stomper is a badass!

by lynnzgal on Jul 21, 2008 5:48 PM PDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Are you saying we'll get funnier with more practice?

"God doesn't pay attention to your cute little hypotheticals." -- Jeff from LL

by oblique on Jul 21, 2008 5:50 PM PDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Do we

have a choice?

Stomper is a badass!

by lynnzgal on Jul 21, 2008 5:50 PM PDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

We could just get mean and stupid...

like certain other SB Nation blogs centered to the south of us…

"God doesn't pay attention to your cute little hypotheticals." -- Jeff from LL

by oblique on Jul 21, 2008 5:51 PM PDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

No thanks,

Life is too short.

Stomper is a badass!

by lynnzgal on Jul 21, 2008 5:53 PM PDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Roll of quarters...

"God doesn't pay attention to your cute little hypotheticals." -- Jeff from LL

by oblique on Jul 21, 2008 5:48 PM PDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Seattle= old+bad+highly paid

with multi-year contracts.

They cannot even enjoy “Fail” and the pitcher of Sexson with his head down…their signature front page picture. Richie’s a Yankee! No longer an icon for the team.

"I never predict anything, and I never will." Paul Gascoigne, English footballer

by One won lost won on Jul 21, 2008 5:47 PM PDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

I think we should modify our logo like they did last year.

Maybe the AN globe getting hit by a comet?

"PECOTA can pretty much kiss my ass."-Nico

by jeepers on Jul 21, 2008 5:52 PM PDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

You mean taking it, right down the middle?

I like Cindi. A. She never pretends to know more than she does. B. She has unbridled enthusiasm for her "Hotties," and isn't afraid to show it. -IM4Oakgal

by Nico on Jul 21, 2008 5:52 PM PDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

lol!

Stomper is a badass!

by lynnzgal on Jul 21, 2008 5:54 PM PDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Maybe Zimmer will charge Eveland like he did to Pedro

And it will at least be funny.

rebuildingseason.blogspot.com

by Rebuilding Season on Jul 21, 2008 5:45 PM PDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Eveland running on fumes

Get him out of there before he hurts himself. Last fastball was down to 85.

by 31Boots on Jul 21, 2008 5:46 PM PDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Fuck it, let him pitch

He’ll either learn from these mistakes, or just suffer from being so bad. Either way satisfies me.

by Philip Christy on Jul 21, 2008 5:47 PM PDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

In my litany about why I don't like Eveland,

I forgot to mention that he has the worst body language I’ve seen in a long time. He looks visibly upset and unraveled every single time he doesn’t throw a pitch the way he meant to – which is damn often, I might add. I think he basically sucks – 5th starter material – and that he should not be in the A’s long-term plans.

I like Cindi. A. She never pretends to know more than she does. B. She has unbridled enthusiasm for her "Hotties," and isn't afraid to show it. -IM4Oakgal

by Nico on Jul 21, 2008 5:47 PM PDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Mariners cut Sexson for poor body language

When you have a chance to get a guy like Sean Gallagher, you take it!

by WaddellCanseco on Jul 21, 2008 5:48 PM PDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

He's doing just fine in New York

as a role-player. Good defensive replacement (considering our options) and right-handed power off the bench…. for a cool $160k.

Bargain, I think.

by Terrekain on Jul 21, 2008 5:50 PM PDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

He must have learned from his mistake

When you have a chance to get a guy like Sean Gallagher, you take it!

by WaddellCanseco on Jul 21, 2008 5:52 PM PDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Smoke.

God damnit, I wish I proof read it before posting

by Trainman on Jul 21, 2008 5:48 PM PDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Disagree.

Seattle is simply a bad place to play…

I have my opinions about what went wrong, but Sexson isn’t as washed-up as the Mariners fans and media like to make him out to be.

He’s in NY to provide right-handed power protection against lefties. In fact, he STARTS when facing lefties because he’s hitting 340 this year off them.

by Terrekain on Jul 21, 2008 5:53 PM PDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

I disagree

Eveland’s got talent. Doesn’t mean he won’t turn into a headcase though.

by Philip Christy on Jul 21, 2008 5:49 PM PDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

He's actually had a pretty good year. So has Smith

We’d be a lot happier with him if the hitters were good. Or decent. Or mediocre. Or below average.

When you have a chance to get a guy like Sean Gallagher, you take it!

by WaddellCanseco on Jul 21, 2008 5:51 PM PDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

He doesn't need to "turn" into a head case

And a billion pitchers have had talent and stunk it up. He has good enough stuff to make you think, “You know…he could…” and he doesn’t have “what it takes” to win in the major leagues, IMO. And I understand that he’s young but I’ve seen enough – Smith has a chance to be a solid major league ptcher and Eveland is Jamey Wright.

I like Cindi. A. She never pretends to know more than she does. B. She has unbridled enthusiasm for her "Hotties," and isn't afraid to show it. -IM4Oakgal

by Nico on Jul 21, 2008 5:51 PM PDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

How has he disappointed you?

100+ IP. 100+ ERA+. What more do you want from a rookie-ish pitcher?

When you have a chance to get a guy like Sean Gallagher, you take it!

by WaddellCanseco on Jul 21, 2008 5:53 PM PDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

I don't think he has what it takes to

succeed over time at the major league level. Lack of command – really can’t put the ball where he wants even most of the time – poor body language, puts a ton of people on base and relies on a fair amount of luck and Houdinism to get by. I just don’t see it.

I like Cindi. A. She never pretends to know more than she does. B. She has unbridled enthusiasm for her "Hotties," and isn't afraid to show it. -IM4Oakgal

by Nico on Jul 21, 2008 5:56 PM PDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

So if he kept doing what he's been doing you'd wonder how he's

doing it, but you’d be satisfied with the results?

When you have a chance to get a guy like Sean Gallagher, you take it!

by WaddellCanseco on Jul 21, 2008 5:58 PM PDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

No, I've just watched enough baseball to know

that guys who “get by” the way he has been getting by (see Joe Kennedy), on “leaving ‘em loaded” and “liner – caught!” can’t keep it up. His stuff ain’t THAT good.

I like Cindi. A. She never pretends to know more than she does. B. She has unbridled enthusiasm for her "Hotties," and isn't afraid to show it. -IM4Oakgal

by Nico on Jul 21, 2008 6:02 PM PDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

A 3.87 FIP is pretty good, even in Oakland

75% LOB% isn’t very high. If anything he’s worse than average with men on base. So he’s not been particularly lucky.

His GB% is nearly 50%. IF/F is 11%. Both indicate weak contact to me. LD% of 20% is a bit high though. I see no reason why he shouldn’t be a good 4th starter on a playoff team. In a good year he could be a Top 3 guy. Seems durable.

His HR/F is under 5% which could be expected to regress. It already has in this game.

He’s not a top of the rotation guy, but we could do a lot worse. I’d probably not keep him after his 4th year though as he got expensive, if I had a choice.

When you have a chance to get a guy like Sean Gallagher, you take it!

by WaddellCanseco on Jul 21, 2008 6:10 PM PDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Hope you're right -

I actually do want our players to be good.

I like Cindi. A. She never pretends to know more than she does. B. She has unbridled enthusiasm for her "Hotties," and isn't afraid to show it. -IM4Oakgal

by Nico on Jul 21, 2008 6:11 PM PDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

LOL - he's workin' on it!

I like Cindi. A. She never pretends to know more than she does. B. She has unbridled enthusiasm for her "Hotties," and isn't afraid to show it. -IM4Oakgal

by Nico on Jul 21, 2008 6:21 PM PDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

re

He only gave up 8 home runs in over 400 minor league innings.

by 31Boots on Jul 21, 2008 6:23 PM PDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

edit

That’s not right. BB-Ref doesn’t have home run totals his first two seasons, and lists the total as 8. He gave up 8 his last roughly 250 innings.

by 31Boots on Jul 21, 2008 6:26 PM PDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

I not saying you're wrong

I’m just saying he has talent. “Smoke and mirrors” was the thing I had an issue with. To the contrary, he was doing it with talent.

by Philip Christy on Jul 21, 2008 5:53 PM PDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

he isn't definitively anyone yet

I mean, dude’s 24 and has under 200IP at the major league level.

I can see why you’re worried about his demeanor, but his floor is BretT Tomko, it’s not who he is now.

by rebus on Jul 21, 2008 5:57 PM PDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Demeanor actually can tell you a lot,

as can the ability, or inability, to make adjustments.

I like Cindi. A. She never pretends to know more than she does. B. She has unbridled enthusiasm for her "Hotties," and isn't afraid to show it. -IM4Oakgal

by Nico on Jul 21, 2008 6:03 PM PDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

I noticed that, too.

He seemed to unravel when the stolen bases occurred.

"PECOTA can pretty much kiss my ass."-Nico

by jeepers on Jul 21, 2008 5:48 PM PDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

he's gassed

He’s taking big breaths after every pitch, and he’s lost 4 mph off his fastball. Everybody unravels mentally when they’re tired. I understand that he’s never worked like this in a season before, and I don’t care about the weight, but he needs to improve his conditioning. There’s no good reason for a pitcher to be winded.

He’s definitely not 5th starter material if he becomes more consistent. There aren’t five starting lefties with that combo of cut and velocity, plus the good breaking stuff. He can be outstanding. Pitchers struggle their rookie season. It’s natural.

by 31Boots on Jul 21, 2008 5:53 PM PDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Honestly, he has NO idea where the ball is going half the time

He misses his target sometimes by 2 feet – sometimes resulting in a pleasant surprise like a perfect strike on the outside corner when the pitch is supposed to be off the plate inside. You can’t win in the major leagues that way, especially when all the little things, like controlling the running game, fielding your position, etc. are weaknesses as well. And mentally, I think he has problems too – as you see every time he visibly chastises himself for throwing a bad pitch.

I like Cindi. A. She never pretends to know more than she does. B. She has unbridled enthusiasm for her "Hotties," and isn't afraid to show it. -IM4Oakgal

by Nico on Jul 21, 2008 5:59 PM PDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

control

is typically the last thing that comes around for young pitchers when they make the jump to the big leagues. Eveland has a long history of good control (under 3bb/9 in the minors.) We’re being spoiled as A’s fans by our young pitchers doing so well out of the gate, but it’s not typical. Eveland needs time to adjust just like everyone else. Composure (which I haven’t seen as a problem btw) can be taught, if necessary.

He’s never pitched more than 130 innings in a minor league season. He threw winter ball this year, and he’s at about 120 big league innings. He’s tired and he’s going to have bad games like this.

by 31Boots on Jul 21, 2008 6:08 PM PDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

I hope you're right

I wouldn’t build my hopes around him, personally, but hopefully I’m wrong on this one.

I like Cindi. A. She never pretends to know more than she does. B. She has unbridled enthusiasm for her "Hotties," and isn't afraid to show it. -IM4Oakgal

by Nico on Jul 21, 2008 6:09 PM PDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

I'm having trouble getting excited about that.

I’m thinking of becoming a RockHounds fan

When you have a chance to get a guy like Sean Gallagher, you take it!

by WaddellCanseco on Jul 21, 2008 5:49 PM PDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

You want a roll of quarters?

Mark Ellis: sent down from Heaven to rob Evil of hits and hand out rainbows

by Jennifer on Jul 21, 2008 5:50 PM PDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Slut.

"God doesn't pay attention to your cute little hypotheticals." -- Jeff from LL

by oblique on Jul 21, 2008 5:50 PM PDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Fuck you!

Mark Ellis: sent down from Heaven to rob Evil of hits and hand out rainbows

by Jennifer on Jul 21, 2008 5:51 PM PDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

HA HA HA HA HA!!!

They could never do that on Lookout Landing.

I like Cindi. A. She never pretends to know more than she does. B. She has unbridled enthusiasm for her "Hotties," and isn't afraid to show it. -IM4Oakgal

by Nico on Jul 21, 2008 5:52 PM PDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

It's usually "Die in a fire!!!"

if you need to reply with venom, over at LL.

"I never predict anything, and I never will." Paul Gascoigne, English footballer

by One won lost won on Jul 21, 2008 5:54 PM PDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Fuck you!

"God doesn't pay attention to your cute little hypotheticals." -- Jeff from LL

by oblique on Jul 21, 2008 5:55 PM PDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

I'm hoping for a last minute trade

When you have a chance to get a guy like Sean Gallagher, you take it!

by WaddellCanseco on Jul 21, 2008 5:49 PM PDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Did we ever get a reason why Gio wasn’t called up? Braden’s terrible, and has done nothing at the big league level. Beane has got to know that. Do the A’s just not think Gio is ready yet?

by Philip Christy on Jul 21, 2008 5:52 PM PDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Either he is not ready or

they are brain dead for starting Braden.

I would like to assume that Gio is not ready yet.

by Trainman on Jul 21, 2008 5:53 PM PDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Presumably - the A's tend to call up guys

based on their being ready, not based on the big league club’s need. Which is smart, I think.

I like Cindi. A. She never pretends to know more than she does. B. She has unbridled enthusiasm for her "Hotties," and isn't afraid to show it. -IM4Oakgal

by Nico on Jul 21, 2008 5:53 PM PDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

I'm guessing either

1) They’re showcasing Braden like Blake Stein
2) They intend to trade another starter and are saving Gio for the home game vs KC three days before the deadline and they think Braden deserves a shot as 5th starter.

When you have a chance to get a guy like Sean Gallagher, you take it!

by WaddellCanseco on Jul 21, 2008 5:56 PM PDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Thanks so much!

I loved taking them… my seats were up on the Tier, but I hung around field level to get the shots I wanted.

by schmifty on Jul 21, 2008 5:52 PM PDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

I was wondering where your seats were,

because you seemed to be everywhere, but you got some great shots. Did Swooney ever notice you were stalking him? ;)

by whiteshoes40 on Jul 21, 2008 5:53 PM PDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Haha yeah, I was roving

I walked up and down the 1st and 3rd base lines over and over, getting shots while pretending to look for my seat… A lot of the shots are indeed from the Tier though, and they don’t look too bad due to the mega-zoom.

I don’t think Swooney noticed his stalker… Luckily! Poor guy, I wouldn’t want to scare him. Croz did give me a questionable look, though.

by schmifty on Jul 21, 2008 6:01 PM PDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Agreed.

Stole the one of Duke on the mound for my new desktop. Thanks!

by pam5981 on Jul 21, 2008 5:58 PM PDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Fosse needs to STFU

about how the ASB affected the A’s starters. It did not seem to hurt Mussina, Joba, Pettitte or Kazmir very much.

by Swooney's Left Foot on Jul 21, 2008 5:50 PM PDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Didn't bother Duke, either.

"PECOTA can pretty much kiss my ass."-Nico

by jeepers on Jul 21, 2008 5:51 PM PDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

and Duke was sick for a week

and his pitch to Giambi was not bad, according to “G”.

"I never predict anything, and I never will." Paul Gascoigne, English footballer

by One won lost won on Jul 21, 2008 5:55 PM PDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

I feel a rally coming

Was Black Snake Moan a comedy or a drama?

by ohtobe21likehuston on Jul 21, 2008 5:55 PM PDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

O RALY?

Mark Ellis: sent down from Heaven to rob Evil of hits and hand out rainbows

by Jennifer on Jul 21, 2008 5:56 PM PDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

RyRy and I had a baby

Mark Ellis: sent down from Heaven to rob Evil of hits and hand out rainbows

by Jennifer on Jul 21, 2008 5:58 PM PDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

I miss 2006.

"PECOTA can pretty much kiss my ass."-Nico

by jeepers on Jul 21, 2008 6:03 PM PDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

I miss 1989

Was Black Snake Moan a comedy or a drama?

by ohtobe21likehuston on Jul 21, 2008 6:04 PM PDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

2006?

That’s like, ancient history in Intarweb years.

Is this Heaven? No, it's Iowa. -Field of Dreams

by IowaA'sFan on Jul 21, 2008 6:04 PM PDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Those were the days.

I almost had an aneurysm in the first round of the playoffs.

Mark Ellis: sent down from Heaven to rob Evil of hits and hand out rainbows

by Jennifer on Jul 21, 2008 6:04 PM PDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

We needed meds back then.

Now the same effect can be achieved naturally.

"PECOTA can pretty much kiss my ass."-Nico

by jeepers on Jul 21, 2008 6:10 PM PDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Nice turn of phrase

I think I’ll use it the next time a BM is urgent.

"I never predict anything, and I never will." Paul Gascoigne, English footballer

by One won lost won on Jul 21, 2008 5:56 PM PDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Rally time.

Our two guys that can kinda sorta hit are coming up, and Ellis is on base!

"PECOTA can pretty much kiss my ass."-Nico

by jeepers on Jul 21, 2008 5:55 PM PDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

A walk!

Mark Ellis: sent down from Heaven to rob Evil of hits and hand out rainbows

by Jennifer on Jul 21, 2008 5:55 PM PDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Lead-off walk

I’m a newbie, so I have an excuse to get excited!

by Terrekain on Jul 21, 2008 5:56 PM PDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Hey look on the bright side

with the A’s down we get to see A. Brown woooo!

Fremont here we come!

by In Beane we trust on Jul 21, 2008 5:57 PM PDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Just tuned in.

Looks like I picked the wrong week to stop drinking.

Oh wait, I didn’t stop drinking. Whew!

Is this Heaven? No, it's Iowa. -Field of Dreams

by IowaA'sFan on Jul 21, 2008 5:58 PM PDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Drinks!

For everyone, cuz we sure need em!

Stomper is a badass!

by lynnzgal on Jul 21, 2008 5:59 PM PDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

+1

"God doesn't pay attention to your cute little hypotheticals." -- Jeff from LL

by oblique on Jul 21, 2008 6:00 PM PDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Why can't we be in the NL East?

"PECOTA can pretty much kiss my ass."-Nico

by jeepers on Jul 21, 2008 5:58 PM PDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

We moved out of Philadelphia

When you have a chance to get a guy like Sean Gallagher, you take it!

by WaddellCanseco on Jul 21, 2008 5:59 PM PDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

That's what I hate most about this turn of events.

We were never so boring before.

Stomper is a badass!

by lynnzgal on Jul 21, 2008 6:03 PM PDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Pathetically uninspired baseball

but can you really blame the team for being so lifeless?

Their GM did start trading away 2/5 of their starting rotation while still in the hunt. That won’t exactly fire up the troops….

"Just looking at Lackey's face, you just want to beat him" -Ray Fosse

by marco magic on Jul 21, 2008 6:03 PM PDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

I could get more than "lifeless" for $390,000 per year

"I never predict anything, and I never will." Paul Gascoigne, English footballer

by One won lost won on Jul 21, 2008 6:04 PM PDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

YOU could

these guys are so jaded they complain and hold out and sign with guys like Boris just to get by…

"Just looking at Lackey's face, you just want to beat him" -Ray Fosse

by marco magic on Jul 21, 2008 6:05 PM PDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

What, this guy?

"God doesn't pay attention to your cute little hypotheticals." -- Jeff from LL

by oblique on Jul 21, 2008 6:07 PM PDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

I've wondered about that...

What’s the reason for trading away those players…is it as simple as getting close to free-agency and the GM knows that he can’t keep them given the payroll?

Or is there something else?

by Terrekain on Jul 21, 2008 6:05 PM PDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

It's a deep-seated organizational belief

that you can’t win, so don’t try.

"PECOTA can pretty much kiss my ass."-Nico

by jeepers on Jul 21, 2008 6:07 PM PDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

The A's are way more fun

when you root for the opposing pitcher! You win every time.

by Philip Christy on Jul 21, 2008 6:03 PM PDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

You must be hoarse by now

yelling “strike ‘em out!!!” then “Yea, baby!!! He gone!!”

"I never predict anything, and I never will." Paul Gascoigne, English footballer

by One won lost won on Jul 21, 2008 6:06 PM PDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

This is something else...

Sweeney hasn’t even been that good and yet we talk about him like he’s an All-Star. Why? Because he’s so much better than anyone else!

"I'm not going to buy my kids an encyclopedia. Let them walk to school like I did." -Yogi Berra

by brenarlo on Jul 21, 2008 6:04 PM PDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

I have noticed this.

But I thought saying so would kill any good vibes AN had left.

by Philip Christy on Jul 21, 2008 6:05 PM PDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

From an outside perspective,

If he’s hitting close to 400 with RISP, it doesn’t matter how little power he has.

I know plenty of people are miffed with A-Rod for hitting poorly with RISP despite his power.

by Terrekain on Jul 21, 2008 6:09 PM PDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

We'll give you Emil Brown for him.

When you have a chance to get a guy like Sean Gallagher, you take it!

by WaddellCanseco on Jul 21, 2008 6:13 PM PDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

What about the $200 million contract?

You’ll bankrupt California,

never mind Oakland!

by Terrekain on Jul 21, 2008 6:16 PM PDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

We can afford that. We cut the payroll by $30MM this year

When you have a chance to get a guy like Sean Gallagher, you take it!

by WaddellCanseco on Jul 21, 2008 6:19 PM PDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

It was between a power hitter, and good schools

Tough choice, admittedly, but we went with A-Rod.

I like Cindi. A. She never pretends to know more than she does. B. She has unbridled enthusiasm for her "Hotties," and isn't afraid to show it. -IM4Oakgal

by Nico on Jul 21, 2008 6:20 PM PDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

.766 OPS...

Isn’t that good…

It’s certainly not bad…

"I'm not going to buy my kids an encyclopedia. Let them walk to school like I did." -Yogi Berra

by brenarlo on Jul 21, 2008 6:08 PM PDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

It's actually pretty poor for a #3 hitter.

But again, as long as he can produce runs, I’m not ragging on him. (of course the other sabermetrics may not agree with me).

by Terrekain on Jul 21, 2008 6:11 PM PDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Yep...

"I'm not going to buy my kids an encyclopedia. Let them walk to school like I did." -Yogi Berra

by brenarlo on Jul 21, 2008 6:15 PM PDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

leave it to AN to be on a rookie for hitting 300

SHEESH!

"Just looking at Lackey's face, you just want to beat him" -Ray Fosse

by marco magic on Jul 21, 2008 6:09 PM PDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

AN?

translation, please?

by Terrekain on Jul 21, 2008 6:11 PM PDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

this blog

"Just looking at Lackey's face, you just want to beat him" -Ray Fosse

by marco magic on Jul 21, 2008 6:12 PM PDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

How would you know?

Heck, how would you know how AN reacted to a .300 hitter, period?

I like Cindi. A. She never pretends to know more than she does. B. She has unbridled enthusiasm for her "Hotties," and isn't afraid to show it. -IM4Oakgal

by Nico on Jul 21, 2008 6:12 PM PDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Hey, I'm a big fan of Sweeney...

but we have to keep things in perspective…

"I'm not going to buy my kids an encyclopedia. Let them walk to school like I did." -Yogi Berra

by brenarlo on Jul 21, 2008 6:14 PM PDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

a for all intents and purposes ROOKIE hitting .300

I hate to be rude but are you looking through a kaleidoscope?

"Just looking at Lackey's face, you just want to beat him" -Ray Fosse

by marco magic on Jul 21, 2008 6:15 PM PDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

I said that Sweeney isn't as good as what AN is building him up to be...

I didn’t say that he won’t become a good hitter or a great hitter. I think he might end up with a very good career. But you have to put him in the context of other 3-hole hitters… or with other teams’ “best” hitter… and then you can say Sweeney isn’t as good as what we here at AN say…

I’m not knocking Sweeney… my main point was that AN is so starving for hitters that we act like Sweeney (AS HE IS RIGHT NOW) is an All-Star hitter…

"I'm not going to buy my kids an encyclopedia. Let them walk to school like I did." -Yogi Berra

by brenarlo on Jul 21, 2008 6:18 PM PDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

why all the qualifiers?

just be happy we have a great young player having a very strong season. Why try and find some way to make it seem worse?

"Just looking at Lackey's face, you just want to beat him" -Ray Fosse

by marco magic on Jul 21, 2008 6:21 PM PDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

I was half-assed laughing when i typed it... like i said...

my point was not to degrade Sweeney… it was to say that he’s so much better than anyone else on the team that it’s pretty say.

"I'm not going to buy my kids an encyclopedia. Let them walk to school like I did." -Yogi Berra

by brenarlo on Jul 21, 2008 6:26 PM PDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

I get your point but you can't make a guy a 3-hole hitter when that isn't his forte.

There have been plenty of high average guys over the years and quite a few of them were not 3-4-5 guys. Sweeney is a great player being forced to hit way out of position. Power should dictate the 3-slot and we simply don’t have anyone but Cust.

Was Black Snake Moan a comedy or a drama?

by ohtobe21likehuston on Jul 21, 2008 6:26 PM PDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

You're right...

I make the same point when talking about Street… it’s not his fault that Geren puts him out there to blow games. If he’s not good enough to be a closer then Geren shouldn’t put him in those situations.

"I'm not going to buy my kids an encyclopedia. Let them walk to school like I did." -Yogi Berra

by brenarlo on Jul 21, 2008 6:28 PM PDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

And it's not Geren's fault that he doesn't have

a better closer or a better middle of the order option than those guys.

I like Cindi. A. She never pretends to know more than she does. B. She has unbridled enthusiasm for her "Hotties," and isn't afraid to show it. -IM4Oakgal

by Nico on Jul 21, 2008 6:29 PM PDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

No. He has caught a lot of shit this year and most people are nuts

if they are blaming him. I believe he may have managed us to more wins than Macha. What makes me sick is that Terry Francona wasn’t qualified to be our manager and now he looks like the greatest of all-time. He wouldn’t have done anything with these guys either.

Was Black Snake Moan a comedy or a drama?

by ohtobe21likehuston on Jul 21, 2008 6:31 PM PDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

I actually think Geren has done a very good job,

both in terms of personality and in-game decisions – yet he gets grief for both.

I like Cindi. A. She never pretends to know more than she does. B. She has unbridled enthusiasm for her "Hotties," and isn't afraid to show it. -IM4Oakgal

by Nico on Jul 21, 2008 6:32 PM PDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

He is heading into Art Howe mode.

Get ready to watch some guys develop and stay calm with them while they struggle.

Was Black Snake Moan a comedy or a drama?

by ohtobe21likehuston on Jul 21, 2008 6:35 PM PDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

You are correct.

"I'm not going to buy my kids an encyclopedia. Let them walk to school like I did." -Yogi Berra

by brenarlo on Jul 21, 2008 6:35 PM PDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Crap.

I read that wrong. I started to wonder how I missed the other 3 runs.

Mark Ellis: sent down from Heaven to rob Evil of hits and hand out rainbows

by Jennifer on Jul 21, 2008 6:10 PM PDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

The ump is so sweet

Was Black Snake Moan a comedy or a drama?

by ohtobe21likehuston on Jul 21, 2008 6:11 PM PDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Look at it this way:

We may only have to see Kazmir for one more inning; then we can take a rip off Percival coming off the DL….

Terrekain <- looks for help.

by Terrekain on Jul 21, 2008 6:14 PM PDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Heh.

Terrekain <- writes that one down.

by Terrekain on Jul 21, 2008 6:18 PM PDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Oooogabooga!

Mark Ellis: sent down from Heaven to rob Evil of hits and hand out rainbows

by Jennifer on Jul 21, 2008 6:11 PM PDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

BHBC

Sad to say.

Stomper is a badass!

by lynnzgal on Jul 21, 2008 6:13 PM PDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Brown hole Bobby Crosby

Mark Ellis: sent down from Heaven to rob Evil of hits and hand out rainbows

by Jennifer on Jul 21, 2008 6:14 PM PDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs