Open Thread: Game 84 - A's at Angels (cont)
by baseballgirl on Jul 2, 2008 2:37 PM PDT
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PrintWell, once again, the bullpen ruins a perfectly nice A's 3-2 lead, as Foulke becomes today's goat. But hey, at least the game stayed tied at 3 this time. Oh, no it totally didn't because Foulke did the SAME THING as Embree last night, giving up a two-run homerun to follow the blown save (I won't tell you it was Rivera's first homerun of the year).
But unlike last night, the A's have three innings to get back on the board.
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can we have self-pitch in the 7th
man Foulke is just throwing meatballs and fooling absolutely no one
"Just looking at Lackey's face, you just want to beat him" -Ray Fosse
Casilla and Devine go down and the Pen turns
to absolute *** with Geren assist
Crap E Diem
Pride And Poise!!!
by Raymond St. Martin (Saint) on Jul 2, 2008 2:41 PM PDT reply actions
This game is EXACTLY the situation
I described a few days ago where Gaudin should pitch 2-3 innings. Eveland goes 5.2 IP, A’s lead, you can go to someone also worthy of the rotation and who’s fresh, instead of squeezing outs from a series of flawed pitchers.
Ziggy 3 IP yesterday when he’s on a roll, and Gaudin today, and we may well sweep the series.
I like Cindi. A. She never pretends to know more than she does. B. She has unbridled enthusiasm for her "Hotties," and isn't afraid to show it. -IM4Oakgal
True That:
Pride And Poise!!!
by Raymond St. Martin (Saint) on Jul 2, 2008 2:42 PM PDT up reply actions
Better Yet.
Let Eveland try and get that final out.
What about Barry?
"Barry who?" Forst said, and I felt like I was in the middle of a knock-knock joke.
+1
The A’s had a real good shot at sweeping this series.
by VORP is too nerdy on Jul 2, 2008 2:42 PM PDT up reply actions
Seriously.
Gaudin is WASTING away in the pen.
pam5981: Patience is a virtue that I do not possess.
ohtobe21likehuston: But you're good at drinking and cussing. Two out of three ain't bad.
Nico...
you should’ve been Beane’s best man.
I am Ray Fosse's man crushes for Clay Wood and Jason Kendall.
I totally agree. These games just may be looked at as a turning point for the worse
The poor decisions by the manager to take out guys who were doing pretty well COMBINED with the poor 3rd base coaching on Saturday has cost this team some very crucial games.
OUR TEAM IS SEVERELY SHORTHANDED IN THE LINE-UP RIGHT NOW. THE TEAM CANNOT AFFORD POOR MANAGEMENT AND COACHING.
Foulke has been smoke and mirrors all year...
It’s only going to get worse. he is done.
Bring back Hammer.
and he's not throwing smoke
"May a nit suck Cajun geese?" wonders Red. No, we see gnu Jack Cust in a yam.
That is also True:
He has been terrible and has been VERY fortunate to have the ERA and WHIP that he did. he was tossing BP.
Pride And Poise!!!
by Raymond St. Martin (Saint) on Jul 2, 2008 2:43 PM PDT up reply actions
Well Rivera
just hit a screaming ball through that smoke and shattered that mirror.
by Tyler Bleszinski on Jul 2, 2008 2:44 PM PDT up reply actions
Instead of 1.5 back, we end up 4.5 back
Fantastic way to end the first half and get some momentum heading towards the ASB.
Try 5.5
I like Cindi. A. She never pretends to know more than she does. B. She has unbridled enthusiasm for her "Hotties," and isn't afraid to show it. -IM4Oakgal
Not if Bowen homers... :)
"Well, I've wrestled with reality for 35 years, doctor, and I'm happy to state that I've finally won out over it." -- Elwood P. Dowd (Jimmy Stewart), "Harvey"
Yeah, it's like Scoscia is showing Geren
“See Bob, it doesn’t hurt to let your starter go over 100 pitches once in a while”
"I've never hit a ball that good and not have it go out" –Jack Cust
by PortlandPachyderm on Jul 2, 2008 2:47 PM PDT up reply actions
NO MORE FOULKE
I say no Foulke for you. He has just not done it for us this year. And yes, we are wasting a quality arm in Gaudin.
Enjoy the game
It was funny
Did you see Rich Harden and Dana Eveland both shaking their heads in the dugout after the Rivera bomb? I imagine they felt it was coming. Just as we all did.
by Tyler Bleszinski on Jul 2, 2008 2:45 PM PDT reply actions
It kills the argument....
that Foulke, not Embree, should’ve been used last night. Same exact thing happened. Whew.
Hindsight, but
in both cases, the previous pitcher was pulled too early and it backfired on Geren, IMO.
"I've never hit a ball that good and not have it go out" –Jack Cust
by PortlandPachyderm on Jul 2, 2008 2:49 PM PDT up reply actions
Man, so true...
managerial blunders on back-to-back games….
I still don't get why
if the A’s insist on using Foulke why they wouldn’t have left Eveland in for Kotchman at the very least? I’m thoroughly baffled by that.
by Tyler Bleszinski on Jul 2, 2008 2:46 PM PDT reply actions
We'll never know
They will mumble stuff, issue platitudes, and never say.
This is one of those...
where you write it on a legal pad and save it for the next interview with Billy. He’ll love that.
More than just ANtics: http://www.louisgray.com/live/
Bullpen L/R Matchups
Have been Geren’s biggest downfall this year, especially with Embree pitching to RH batters. You’re absolutely right Blez. Eveland should have faced Kotchman.
Everything looks nicer when you win. The girls are prettier. The cigars taste better. The trees are greener. Billy Martin
by Steve in Napa on Jul 2, 2008 2:49 PM PDT up reply actions
I know that Kotchman has hit lefties pretty well this year
but still, I like Eveland against Kotchman much more than anyone else in the A’s pen.
by Tyler Bleszinski on Jul 2, 2008 2:50 PM PDT up reply actions
Everyone keeps saying bring in Gaudin.
He would’ve been better than Foulke no doubt today, and Embree last night. But over the long haul we can’t just keep saying use Gaudin (although that may never be the problem if Geren doesn’t use him). The guy can’t come in every single night. We need some help in that bullpen. If Casilla is healthy he’s about the only other guy we can have confidence in the pen. I wonder if Taylor Buchholz might be available???
What about Barry?
"Barry who?" Forst said, and I felt like I was in the middle of a knock-knock joke.
We're not saying pitch him every day
It’s just that every day, he hasn’t been used the day before so we’re like “OK, use him the f—TODAY.”
I like Cindi. A. She never pretends to know more than she does. B. She has unbridled enthusiasm for her "Hotties," and isn't afraid to show it. -IM4Oakgal
I totally get that.
HE SHOULD’VE USED HIM TODAY. I’m just talking about getting help for this second half playoff run.
What about Barry?
"Barry who?" Forst said, and I felt like I was in the middle of a knock-knock joke.
We don't know if they are healthy.
Devine isn’t even throwing and Casilla is nothing like he was earlier in the season.
What about Barry?
"Barry who?" Forst said, and I felt like I was in the middle of a knock-knock joke.
He doesn't come in every single night, though. He barely comes in at all.
I think the point is he should be used BEFORE guys like Foulke or Embree since he’s a better pitcher than the two of them.
Wait, I just got here Why isn't R. Sweeney playing?
We only have 2-3 decent hitters and he is on the bench? Is he hurt?
Surely, he could be at DH if you wanted to get the right handed hitting Brown and Davis in?
sore ankle
taking the day off after getting all those fly-ball outs yesterday.
"optimism 1 pessimism 0" ~Dirk
by 149 on Jul 2, 2008 2:49 PM PDT up reply actions
Is anything happening in the game
Yahoo has not updated for a few minutes (since Gonzalez single)
"May a nit suck Cajun geese?" wonders Red. No, we see gnu Jack Cust in a yam.
I'll take that.
What about Barry?
"Barry who?" Forst said, and I felt like I was in the middle of a knock-knock joke.
I didn't "see" anything
radio only here. But yeah, the Angels let a Green Guy score.
"optimism 1 pessimism 0" ~Dirk
by 149 on Jul 2, 2008 2:50 PM PDT up reply actions
Why exactly did they need to remove Eveland??
The Angels are giving us the game. NOW TAKE IT
Details please!
pam5981: Patience is a virtue that I do not possess.
ohtobe21likehuston: But you're good at drinking and cussing. Two out of three ain't bad.
Aybar got a routine ground ball at short.
And he threw the ball into right field. Gonzalez scored from first.
by VORP is too nerdy on Jul 2, 2008 2:51 PM PDT up reply actions
Sharply hit grounder to short, bad throw to 2nd, Bowen advances to 2B and somebody scored
Ryan Sweeney: I probably irrationally embraced him before you did.
Kay
Angels make a throwing error getting anxious for the DP, nobody backs it up well. Run scores, batter on second. Rex Hudler cries.
Why not Hannahan for Murphy here?
I like Cindi. A. She never pretends to know more than she does. B. She has unbridled enthusiasm for her "Hotties," and isn't afraid to show it. -IM4Oakgal
Seems to me we all thought the A's were pathetic first.
TOO MUCH NEGATIVITY! Lots of time keft! Lets. Go. A’s!
"Well, I've wrestled with reality for 35 years, doctor, and I'm happy to state that I've finally won out over it." -- Elwood P. Dowd (Jimmy Stewart), "Harvey"
Time "left" even...
"Well, I've wrestled with reality for 35 years, doctor, and I'm happy to state that I've finally won out over it." -- Elwood P. Dowd (Jimmy Stewart), "Harvey"
You kept the faith
However, you would have to admit that things took a very bad turn the last few days (especially the loss of Chavez)
Rajai Davis should push a bunt to 2B
Game tied, go-ahead run at second.
I like Cindi. A. She never pretends to know more than she does. B. She has unbridled enthusiasm for her "Hotties," and isn't afraid to show it. -IM4Oakgal
You know
When Murphy gets the walk, I’m immediately thinking, “Shit, this means a double play.”
by Tyler Bleszinski on Jul 2, 2008 2:52 PM PDT reply actions
Angels playing D
the way Geren manages the bullpen. break even, please….
"optimism 1 pessimism 0" ~Dirk
The A's need more Suicide Squeezes....
Oh wait, we don’t know how to bunt
"Mount it? I already did. Oh! You meant on the wall?!!
Brief visit
Just stopping in during a short break at work ….
That lineup is really funny. Even funnier that we’re only 1 run behind with it.
"Dispatch knuckleheadedness with Bond-like aplomb." –74mk
I easily could
Boss is out of town.
But I’m paid by the hour, and any time that I can’t account for or bill to a client I don’t get paid.
"Dispatch knuckleheadedness with Bond-like aplomb." –74mk
NO DP NO DP NO DP
pam5981: Patience is a virtue that I do not possess.
ohtobe21likehuston: But you're good at drinking and cussing. Two out of three ain't bad.
I'm surprised
That looked like it could’ve been a double play.
by Tyler Bleszinski on Jul 2, 2008 2:53 PM PDT up reply actions
I'm jealous you can see it.
"optimism 1 pessimism 0" ~Dirk
by 149 on Jul 2, 2008 2:54 PM PDT up reply actions
Yeah
It would’ve been close. But it was hit hard enough to be turned, I think.
Still, with the A’s hitting, it was probably a smart decision to go home.
by Tyler Bleszinski on Jul 2, 2008 3:01 PM PDT up reply actions
Let's Go Oakland!!!
Pride And Poise!!!
by Raymond St. Martin (Saint) on Jul 2, 2008 2:53 PM PDT reply actions
Hudler is right for once
Bowen should have gone harder into Figgy there..gave up too quick,
Bring back Hammer.
A's have blown runner at third one out
two innings in a row. Pathetic. All he had to do is push a bunt right at Kendrick and it’s tied.
I like Cindi. A. She never pretends to know more than she does. B. She has unbridled enthusiasm for her "Hotties," and isn't afraid to show it. -IM4Oakgal
All he had to do was hit a home run
and we’re up by two.
"May a nit suck Cajun geese?" wonders Red. No, we see gnu Jack Cust in a yam.
The A's don't know how to do that
This is the A’s we’re talking about, remember?
by Tyler Bleszinski on Jul 2, 2008 2:55 PM PDT up reply actions
This game is ridiculously sloppy
On both sides.
Ryan Sweeney: I probably irrationally embraced him before you did.
At least we have an MLB hitter up
Ryan Sweeney: I probably irrationally embraced him before you did.
Exactly. The low number of them on the team is the problem
Bull-pen mistakes and all. The lack of hitters is going to do us in.
With a guy on 3rd and one out?
And you’re happy with just 1? Gotta tie the game there.
Bring back Hammer.
I didn't say I was happy...
just letting go and getting on.
"optimism 1 pessimism 0" ~Dirk
by 149 on Jul 2, 2008 2:58 PM PDT up reply actions
I was going to go with
Mecir and Rincon. But I like your idea better.
"May a nit suck Cajun geese?" wonders Red. No, we see gnu Jack Cust in a yam.
I like the Davis at bat
you got a young pitcher on the ropes, he just walked the batter in front of you but because your a great leadoff hitter with such bat control you swing at the very first pitch you see.
by asfaninpismobeach on Jul 2, 2008 2:56 PM PDT reply actions
Don't wait up
I like Cindi. A. She never pretends to know more than she does. B. She has unbridled enthusiasm for her "Hotties," and isn't afraid to show it. -IM4Oakgal
It would be great for him to get going again.
HE is needed to replace Foulke and Embree in the big situations
your keys to Geren's ears
"optimism 1 pessimism 0" ~Dirk
by 149 on Jul 2, 2008 2:58 PM PDT up reply actions
This is what's infuriating
Bringing in gascans for high leverage situations, blowing the lead, bringing in the real ballplayers for zero leverage situations.
Ryan Sweeney: I probably irrationally embraced him before you did.
Someone needs to show Bob Geren
Those leverage analysis statistics. You know, bringing in your best relievers in the highest-leverage situations.
by VORP is too nerdy on Jul 2, 2008 3:00 PM PDT up reply actions
Seriously.
How many difficult situations did Casilla come in before he got hurt where he totally blanked the opposition. I would love to know how many runners he stranded.
What about Barry?
"Barry who?" Forst said, and I felt like I was in the middle of a knock-knock joke.
uh, Casilla has SUCKED since coming back
He's a very personable, sweet, nice chimp. He's not going to be aggressive unless he's provoked. @('.')@
I'd still rather possible suckage with a chance at a good inning than known suckage
Ryan Sweeney: I probably irrationally embraced him before you did.
right now, you can't bring Casilla in to high-leverage situations
He's a very personable, sweet, nice chimp. He's not going to be aggressive unless he's provoked. @('.')@
Peek at box score...
Cust struggling again eh? Down to .232 BA….4 for 28 (15Ks) last week or so…wow.
He will get a chance in the next inning
It is a necessity that we score next inning. 1) The bottom part of the order will get killed by Rodriquez. 2) We are now down 2 CRAP
What Would It Take To get Jason Bay?
Pride And Poise!!!
by Raymond St. Martin (Saint) on Jul 2, 2008 3:01 PM PDT reply actions
Prob too much being 6 back.......
Hard to make a big deal if we arent a good deal closer by the deadline.
Bring back Hammer.
Well
Giving up a HR to Aybar is not good. At all.
by VORP is too nerdy on Jul 2, 2008 3:02 PM PDT reply actions
It wasn't a bad pitch either
That looked like a Chavez tomahawk swing up near the eyeballs.
by Tyler Bleszinski on Jul 2, 2008 3:02 PM PDT up reply actions
Seriously
They just showed it again and he climbed some major ladder to get to that.
by Tyler Bleszinski on Jul 2, 2008 3:04 PM PDT up reply actions
Wow
Our entire pen has gone down the crapper. When the A’s start allowing home runs to the Angels and their crappy offense, you know it has to hurt.
by Tyler Bleszinski on Jul 2, 2008 3:02 PM PDT reply actions
Absolutely
We are in trouble if the bull-pen continues to stumble, lord knows our hitting is not one to get many runs
Every single reliever has blown
Except Ziggy – what was the last good relief appearance?
I wish
the Angels and their crappy offense... I’m afraid they’re much better than they’ve been performing. Sucks to have them wake up on our bullpen…
"optimism 1 pessimism 0" ~Dirk
by 149 on Jul 2, 2008 3:09 PM PDT up reply actions
It's also pretty lame, IMO, to rag on the Angels' offense
when they routinely score the guys they do get to second with nobody out and to third with one out, and get the one run they need to take the lead and go to their pen – and we don’t.
I like Cindi. A. She never pretends to know more than she does. B. She has unbridled enthusiasm for her "Hotties," and isn't afraid to show it. -IM4Oakgal
they have scratch and claw merely to bring in those runners
They’re a bad offensive team.
We have a combustible (and shortened) bullpen.
He's a very personable, sweet, nice chimp. He's not going to be aggressive unless he's provoked. @('.')@
Oh Well.
I guess we know why Casilla hasn’t been coming in during the difficult situations now.
What about Barry?
"Barry who?" Forst said, and I felt like I was in the middle of a knock-knock joke.
Damn that pitch never should have been hit for a HR...it was head level...
There is no A in OFFENSE!!
OK, what is Jairo Garcia doing in there
And what has he done with Casilla?
"I've never hit a ball that good and not have it go out" –Jack Cust
by PortlandPachyderm on Jul 2, 2008 3:03 PM PDT reply actions
And it's not Vlad that is doing this to us either
It’s porno stachio, Aybar and Juan “clank” Rivera.
by Tyler Bleszinski on Jul 2, 2008 3:03 PM PDT reply actions
Rivera's a decent hitter
No excuse for the Angels to play him as little as they do.
As I’ve said before, if Beane ran the Angels, they’d win 110 games every year.
He's a very personable, sweet, nice chimp. He's not going to be aggressive unless he's provoked. @('.')@
I know
but you almost expect Vlad to be the only one on that team to beat you.
by Tyler Bleszinski on Jul 2, 2008 3:06 PM PDT up reply actions
true
Well, even though GA sucks, I still expect the A’s pitchers to let him beat us.
But, shit, yeah—AYBAR?!?
He's a very personable, sweet, nice chimp. He's not going to be aggressive unless he's provoked. @('.')@
Cust is hanging on
by a thread. The league has figured him out. The power “threat” prevents pitchers from grooving anything against him-so they nibble. Sometimes they win (league K leader) and sometimes they lose (league BB leader)-but the bottom is he K’s alot more than he W’s.
Everything looks nicer when you win. The girls are prettier. The cigars taste better. The trees are greener. Billy Martin
He is streaky...
He will get hot soon enought and everyone will be singing his praises again. It’s who he is.
Bring back Hammer.
So true
to bad they didnt make the Cust crystal ball. Sit him for like 3 weeks at a time, then hit him high in the order for 3 weeks.
by asfaninpismobeach on Jul 2, 2008 3:06 PM PDT up reply actions
WTF?
I just came back to see that we had 1 out, men on 1st and 3rd, the Angels brought in a righty reliever—and Geren didn’t PH one of our multitude of lefties for Rajai?
He's a very personable, sweet, nice chimp. He's not going to be aggressive unless he's provoked. @('.')@
hunh?
Do you mean Hannahan?
There’s still Sweeney or Barton. And Sweeney would be the one playing OF, anyway.
And if Sweeney’s ankle is still sore, they should have DL’ed him, too.
He's a very personable, sweet, nice chimp. He's not going to be aggressive unless he's provoked. @('.')@
This feels like the end of June, 2007,
when all the injuries caught up to us and we were exposed as non-contenders. The team on the field is not a very good team.
I like Cindi. A. She never pretends to know more than she does. B. She has unbridled enthusiasm for her "Hotties," and isn't afraid to show it. -IM4Oakgal
Agreed
The biggest concern to me is that Harden didn’t look like Harden at all last night.
by Tyler Bleszinski on Jul 2, 2008 3:06 PM PDT up reply actions
Which also might explain
why they didn’t use Gaudin today. Maybe they realize he’s going to wind up back in the rotation and just haven’t said anything yet.
by Tyler Bleszinski on Jul 2, 2008 3:07 PM PDT up reply actions
I liked the team earlier this year
But you can only subtract so many important pieces, yeah? I mean, now we’re swapping Chavez for Bankston…
Ryan Sweeney: I probably irrationally embraced him before you did.
The crossroad dictates that either
we trade for better players now or play the 2nd half on a whimper like last year…and charge it as another “rebuilding” year.
With Chavez going down and Thomas' setback
I’m thinking it’s going to be like the second-half of 2007. And as I type this, Bobby Crosby has died.
I like Cindi. A. She never pretends to know more than she does. B. She has unbridled enthusiasm for her "Hotties," and isn't afraid to show it. -IM4Oakgal
You are dead on my friend.
I am thinking of that terrible series in Minnesota after the ASB after that we never got above .500.
Very scary similarities.
I WILL ALSO SAY THAT THERE WERE SOME POOR PERSONNEL CHOICES AROUND JUNE/ EARLY JULY THAT HASTENED THAT DECLINE. (not bringing Piazza back when he was available, Bradley)
I think the decision not to bring in a hitter over the last few weeks will be much debated.
reserve that parallel in history
until after the Chicago series. White Sox are hot, at home, and A’s stumbling.
I think if the A’s do a “2-2” at Chicago, they are still going somewhere. Otherwise, ship Embree and Foulke, a few others, at the deadline.
"I never predict anything, and I never will." Paul Gascoigne, English footballer
by One won lost won on Jul 2, 2008 3:12 PM PDT up reply actions
Absolutely, its not over yet.
There are still some things the team can do to stay in it.
Crosby may be fine and this might just be a blip for the bullpen
I'd say get rid of Foulke for a bag of bats
Embree is a lefty who can throw 90’s. You can always get something for a guy like that, even if he sucks once a while.
by asfansince1989 on Jul 2, 2008 3:30 PM PDT up reply actions
Eerily similar,
and I still remember when Harden started and struggled against the Mariners.
I remember the 5-run 9th off Embree at Cleveland,
which I felt officially ended our “we’re still in this” status.
I like Cindi. A. She never pretends to know more than she does. B. She has unbridled enthusiasm for her "Hotties," and isn't afraid to show it. -IM4Oakgal
The Shoppach homerun.
Would you believe that is one of the audio clips in MLB’08 The Show for PS3? Nice, huh?
A's, baby!
not struggled...but got lit up by Seattle
it’s one of those times wherein..Harden should not have started that game or stayed on DL much longer.
My name is Bob Geren
And I have an illogical seething hatred of Chad Gaudin.
RagingHarden: Yeah if you get 20 starts out of me I'll be shocked. Like, I'll wreck my drawers.
Oh holy hell.
pam5981: Patience is a virtue that I do not possess.
ohtobe21likehuston: But you're good at drinking and cussing. Two out of three ain't bad.
With the way
this game is going, how have you not already started? :-)
(Formerly Nobody Girl)
"We are a complete freak show." -- Billy Beane
Don't let that stop you.
pam5981: Patience is a virtue that I do not possess.
ohtobe21likehuston: But you're good at drinking and cussing. Two out of three ain't bad.
Hope springs eternal
Scot Shields is pitching
Ryan Sweeney: I probably irrationally embraced him before you did.
Hope is unacceptable...
Warm up Embree. Now.
Frankly, if Geren thought Embree was the best choice
to face Kotchman yesterday, he should have put Embree, not Foulke, in to face him today (if he was going to the pen for one of them).
I like Cindi. A. She never pretends to know more than she does. B. She has unbridled enthusiasm for her "Hotties," and isn't afraid to show it. -IM4Oakgal
Shields is Scioscia's 8th inning guy
Let’s see how it pans out for the opposition…
"I've never hit a ball that good and not have it go out" –Jack Cust
by PortlandPachyderm on Jul 2, 2008 3:08 PM PDT reply actions
That's just it: Good pitchers make good managers
I like Cindi. A. She never pretends to know more than she does. B. She has unbridled enthusiasm for her "Hotties," and isn't afraid to show it. -IM4Oakgal
I can hear PaulThomas and grover cheering from here
He's a very personable, sweet, nice chimp. He's not going to be aggressive unless he's provoked. @('.')@
and I'm not exactly broken up about it myself
He's a very personable, sweet, nice chimp. He's not going to be aggressive unless he's provoked. @('.')@
Looked like he pulled a hamstring or something
beating out an infield dribbler.
by Tyler Bleszinski on Jul 2, 2008 3:10 PM PDT up reply actions
Wow this is unraveling very, very quickly
There goes 2008.
by Tyler Bleszinski on Jul 2, 2008 3:09 PM PDT reply actions
What is this, karma day?
Well, A’s fans, here’s a great and surprising first half. Now, go __ yourselves.
Ryan Sweeney: I probably irrationally embraced him before you did.
I wonder if his ankles fell off
Pride And Poise!!!
by Raymond St. Martin (Saint) on Jul 2, 2008 3:10 PM PDT reply actions
Hey Croz.
You are injury prone.
What about Barry?
"Barry who?" Forst said, and I felt like I was in the middle of a knock-knock joke.
I knew...
...it was a bad idea to print this: http://oakland.athletics.mlb.com/news/article.jsp?ymd=20080630&content_id=3036780&vkey=news_oak&fext=.jsp&c_id=oak
Why not bring in Barry Bonds?
It will at least be interesting especially with all of our guys being hurt.
July 2, 2008
The day the injury bug bit hard enough to kill our chances of contending.
(I hope I’m wrong)
"I've never hit a ball that good and not have it go out" –Jack Cust
by PortlandPachyderm on Jul 2, 2008 3:11 PM PDT reply actions
Every day Emil Brown takes the field
I have to wonder if Billy Beane doesn’t just hate baseball.
RagingHarden: Yeah if you get 20 starts out of me I'll be shocked. Like, I'll wreck my drawers.
Well, we know he doesn't like it as much as "futbol"
"I've never hit a ball that good and not have it go out" –Jack Cust
by PortlandPachyderm on Jul 2, 2008 3:12 PM PDT up reply actions
Not pinch hitting for Emil there
is worse than not pinch hitting for Rajai earlier.
"May a nit suck Cajun geese?" wonders Red. No, we see gnu Jack Cust in a yam.
yup
He's a very personable, sweet, nice chimp. He's not going to be aggressive unless he's provoked. @('.')@
Well
Maybe Crosby getting injured, Chavy going back on the DL, Big Hurt’s uncertainty and Ryan Sweeney’s ankle will force the A’s to do some trading with their starting pitching now.
That is, IF they can still get anything for Harden.
by Tyler Bleszinski on Jul 2, 2008 3:13 PM PDT reply actions
Yea..these last 2 days
Could determine a lot about how this team reacts on July 31.
Bring back Hammer.
I'd think it'd make it *less* likely that Beane trades Harden/Duke/Gaudin
He’ll have no leverage.
He's a very personable, sweet, nice chimp. He's not going to be aggressive unless he's provoked. @('.')@
Really?
His leverage is, “We’re out of it and we can just stand pat. You’re still wanting to win a championship this season so give me all your best prospects or F off.”
by Tyler Bleszinski on Jul 2, 2008 3:15 PM PDT up reply actions
other GMs' response
Pffsssh. You guys are done. You’re in firesale mode. We know you have no choice but to trade your chips to get anything of value out of this season.
He's a very personable, sweet, nice chimp. He's not going to be aggressive unless he's provoked. @('.')@
Beane's response:
None of these guys are free agents. I’ll just keep them and you can miss the playoffs.
there's only one "difference maker" the A's have ...
... and he’s now got a “dead arm.”
The other guys are all mid-to-back-of-the-rotation arms for contenders—complementary arms you don’t overpay for.
He's a very personable, sweet, nice chimp. He's not going to be aggressive unless he's provoked. @('.')@
i might've missed it,
so harden’s got “dead arm” or perhaps any recurring injury issues? i heard on the radio broadcast that his fastball was about 91-92 last night, down from his usual range.
I beg to differ
Duke is not a back of the rotation guy.
by Tyler Bleszinski on Jul 2, 2008 3:38 PM PDT up reply actions
No they don't
We could clearly just keep our assets and move towards 2009. It isn’t like they’re free agents to be. Beane could always just wait until the offseason.
I think you’re wrong. The pressure is on the team who wants to win now, not on the one moving folks.
by Tyler Bleszinski on Jul 2, 2008 3:23 PM PDT up reply actions
A's in contention = Beane holding out for better deals
How is that not true?
He's a very personable, sweet, nice chimp. He's not going to be aggressive unless he's provoked. @('.')@
You can only play with the house's money for so long, it seems
Ryan Sweeney: I probably irrationally embraced him before you did.
cust is in one of those UGLY slumps
good news is that he usually bounces back with a surge…
by put em in a body bag johnny on Jul 2, 2008 3:13 PM PDT reply actions
Jack
KKKKKust.
RagingHarden: Yeah if you get 20 starts out of me I'll be shocked. Like, I'll wreck my drawers.
My man
You cannot complain about how this team has performed this year. Even if it collapses under the weight of all the injuries, this is still one of the best feats Billy has ever pulled off.
Ryan Sweeney: I probably irrationally embraced him before you did.
I totally agree with you.
I still think the only mistake he made (WHICH CAN STILL BE FIXED) is not bringing in a hitter once it became obvious that Thomas and Sweeney were going to be gone longer than 2 weeks.
Yea for the past 3 years are offense has sucked
Only so much u can do with pitching and defense. Sooner or later you have to get a big bat
Shit i would go after holliday hard
hes under contract for the next couple years. Harden i would trade over justin.
My prediction
Angels are gonna get crushed in round one of the playoffs by the Rays.
No. The A's are going to get crushed by the Rays
by WaddellCanseco on Jul 2, 2008 3:17 PM PDT up reply actions
Crushed?
Have you seen their pitching? They may lose, but not going to get crushed.
Bring back Hammer.
Dear Santa -
Please may I have a two-run homer to tie this game?
Your friend,
Wes Bankston
P.S. I know it’s a tad early, but we reeeeally need it. Thanks.
"Well, I've wrestled with reality for 35 years, doctor, and I'm happy to state that I've finally won out over it." -- Elwood P. Dowd (Jimmy Stewart), "Harvey"
Unibrow...Cust...Stinks...
Pride And Poise!!!
by Raymond St. Martin (Saint) on Jul 2, 2008 3:16 PM PDT reply actions
Right now we really only have 1 true major leaguer in the line-up ELLIS possibly Gonzalez
If the management doesn’t do SOMETHING- Anything in the next few days to try and solve this then they are saying “Screw you pitchers and fans”.
Really?
You would deal a bunch of prospects to get a stud bat down 6 in the division? I sure wouldnt.
Bring back Hammer.
I wouldn't either
I’d seriously start considering dealing some of my best older assets to further beef up the A’s system.
by Tyler Bleszinski on Jul 2, 2008 3:19 PM PDT up reply actions
Hell yea.....
Not at the deadline yet, but have to be sellers if it comes to that.
Bring back Hammer.
I mean Harden and Duke
because they can bring back a ton of value. And I LOOOOOVE Justin Duchscherer.
by Tyler Bleszinski on Jul 2, 2008 3:21 PM PDT up reply actions
Yeah
It’s time to go into the all-star break and start finding out who you can bring back value for.
Meaning mostly seeing what you can get for Harden, Duchscherer, or Street.
RagingHarden: Yeah if you get 20 starts out of me I'll be shocked. Like, I'll wreck my drawers.
by walk off bunt on Jul 2, 2008 3:21 PM PDT up reply actions
Agreed
Our record doesn’t actually suck, but this is an incomplete and immature team. But we can be awesome in 2010 if we don’t panic.
This first half was nice, and some of the A’s are good sooner than expected (Smith and Eveland in particular), but we’re not realistically ready yet.
I would have about 3 weeks ago when we were still in the race.
The line-up right now is weak in part because the team failed to make a move when we still could have.
With Chavez out and continued problems with Thomas you may be right.
I would still bring in Bonds. It may not get us in the playoffs but he cant do worse than Cust or E. BRown. It would make the remaining games more interesting
The problem with Cust isn't that he's streaky,
it’s that when he’s cold he is so bad that he’s just completely useless.
I like Cindi. A. She never pretends to know more than she does. B. She has unbridled enthusiasm for her "Hotties," and isn't afraid to show it. -IM4Oakgal
And yet he's still batting in the middle of the order
by Tyler Bleszinski on Jul 2, 2008 3:19 PM PDT up reply actions
Absolutely correct.
They need to put him on the bench.
Hey!
Who’s this “Gaudin” guy? And why haven’t we seen him before now?
"optimism 1 pessimism 0" ~Dirk
Now we use GAUDIN?
WHAT IS UP WITH THIS MOP UP DUTY ROLE OF HIS? WHAT THE FOULKE!!!!
by 33SwisherSweet on Jul 2, 2008 3:18 PM PDT reply actions
Have to have someone be the long guy...
And he is the only one in that whole pen that can do it.
Bring back Hammer.
No chance in hell... if he was the long man, he woulda been used in the Sunday
game against the giants. Instead we burned through the whole bullpen.
by 33SwisherSweet on Jul 2, 2008 3:21 PM PDT up reply actions
I would have used him there.....
That is the spot he should have been used. He is the long guy
Bring back Hammer.
Right, and I agree - what I'm trying to say is although we think of him
as the “long guy” geren thinks of him as the mop up one inning pitch guy. It’s really bothersome. I really didnt get his not pitching in that Sunday game after fat joe got yanked.
To bring in Brown there was horrible.
by 33SwisherSweet on Jul 2, 2008 3:24 PM PDT up reply actions
Totally agree with ya...
No idea why Brown went two there instead of Chad as the long guy.
Bring back Hammer.
Oh hey now it's time to bring in Chaud Gaudin
With all due respect Bob Geren, please do everyone a favor and quit.
RagingHarden: Yeah if you get 20 starts out of me I'll be shocked. Like, I'll wreck my drawers.
NOW...We Get Gaudin?
I guess he’s the new 8th inning guy huh?...Macha…Macha…Geren?
Pride And Poise!!!
by Raymond St. Martin (Saint) on Jul 2, 2008 3:19 PM PDT reply actions
Our relievers are making it harder and harder to blame Geren
They all seem to suck today.
"I've never hit a ball that good and not have it go out" –Jack Cust
by PortlandPachyderm on Jul 2, 2008 3:20 PM PDT reply actions
what was that play I just saw
Something involving a runner scoring without a hit or error occurring?
Case in point, Monkeyball
Call it “scratching and clawing,” or call it “moving guys along”. I’m not saying the Angels have a good offense, but I wouldn’t trade theirs for ours. I might fire Mickey Hatcher, though.
I like Cindi. A. She never pretends to know more than she does. B. She has unbridled enthusiasm for her "Hotties," and isn't afraid to show it. -IM4Oakgal
So, has the rebuilding year just come three months late
or is this just a temporary bump in the road?
"I've never hit a ball that good and not have it go out" –Jack Cust
by PortlandPachyderm on Jul 2, 2008 3:23 PM PDT reply actions
Angels facing Burnett, Halladay, and Litsch in upcoming series
Time for the A’s to get a four game sweep…against one of the hottest teams in baseball.
I am Ray Fosse's man crushes for Clay Wood and Jason Kendall.
Bobby Crosby
Eric Chavez
Frank Thomas
Ryan Sweeney
Mike Sweeney
Travis Buck
Joey Devine
Am I missing any other injuries?
Is there some mandate to up our DL usage each year or something?
Larry Davis is gone, so who to blame now? Injury-prone players?
"I've never hit a ball that good and not have it go out" –Jack Cust
by PortlandPachyderm on Jul 2, 2008 3:25 PM PDT up reply actions
Now that's just nasty
"I've never hit a ball that good and not have it go out" –Jack Cust
by PortlandPachyderm on Jul 2, 2008 3:29 PM PDT up reply actions
We knew goign intot he season sweeney and chavez was a risk
Crosby always a risk and street and harden, signing thomas was a risk to
Without Zonis, I don't know when
the game is over.
I like Cindi. A. She never pretends to know more than she does. B. She has unbridled enthusiasm for her "Hotties," and isn't afraid to show it. -IM4Oakgal
I'm pissed that we've just handed F-Rod two save opportunities in two days
"I've never hit a ball that good and not have it go out" –Jack Cust
by PortlandPachyderm on Jul 2, 2008 3:27 PM PDT reply actions
So is Bobby Thigpen
I like Cindi. A. She never pretends to know more than she does. B. She has unbridled enthusiasm for her "Hotties," and isn't afraid to show it. -IM4Oakgal
Yeah, but I like to think of the F as representing something else
"I've never hit a ball that good and not have it go out" –Jack Cust
by PortlandPachyderm on Jul 2, 2008 3:30 PM PDT up reply actions
On a positive note
I love CarGo.
I had to dig for that on, so appreciate it people.
"optimism 1 pessimism 0" ~Dirk
I have a new nickname for Carlos Gonzalez:
Bright Spot.
RagingHarden: Yeah if you get 20 starts out of me I'll be shocked. Like, I'll wreck my drawers.
teaser if Barton hits HR here
great for a non-comeback. Bowen almost got it.
"I never predict anything, and I never will." Paul Gascoigne, English footballer
by One won lost won on Jul 2, 2008 3:31 PM PDT reply actions
yup
I shoulda given it more thought.
"I never predict anything, and I never will." Paul Gascoigne, English footballer
by One won lost won on Jul 2, 2008 3:32 PM PDT up reply actions
name for Daric
Black Hole
"optimism 1 pessimism 0" ~Dirk
by 149 on Jul 2, 2008 3:32 PM PDT up reply actions
get rid of blanton and let Gio take that spot
let embree go and let blevins pitch and let go brown let buck play, im sick of tryign to stick with this dumb vets
The overall suckiness of this game seems to have broken Yahoo
"I've never hit a ball that good and not have it go out" –Jack Cust
by PortlandPachyderm on Jul 2, 2008 3:32 PM PDT reply actions
Where do people think K-Rod will be next year?
I like Cindi. A. She never pretends to know more than she does. B. She has unbridled enthusiasm for her "Hotties," and isn't afraid to show it. -IM4Oakgal
Venezuela?
I can dream.
"optimism 1 pessimism 0" ~Dirk
by 149 on Jul 2, 2008 3:33 PM PDT up reply actions
Dr. Jobe's office, if we're dreaming
Elbow injured celebrating a save.
I like Cindi. A. She never pretends to know more than she does. B. She has unbridled enthusiasm for her "Hotties," and isn't afraid to show it. -IM4Oakgal
by Nico on Jul 2, 2008 3:34 PM PDT up reply actions 1 recs
Your dreams are better than mine.
Meaner, but better.
"optimism 1 pessimism 0" ~Dirk
by 149 on Jul 2, 2008 3:34 PM PDT up reply actions
Actually...
I’m going to Venezuela this Winter. I’ve been planning to go the last two years, but something always comes up. NOT this year. I’m going.
"optimism 1 pessimism 0" ~Dirk
by 149 on Jul 2, 2008 3:36 PM PDT up reply actions
Mets
Brad Lidge is psychologically spent.
"I never predict anything, and I never will." Paul Gascoigne, English footballer
by One won lost won on Jul 2, 2008 3:33 PM PDT up reply actions
Brad Lidge is psychologically Billy Wagner
I like Cindi. A. She never pretends to know more than she does. B. She has unbridled enthusiasm for her "Hotties," and isn't afraid to show it. -IM4Oakgal
yes
These day games shuffle my mental deck of baseball cards…
"I never predict anything, and I never will." Paul Gascoigne, English footballer
by One won lost won on Jul 2, 2008 10:39 PM PDT up reply actions
I thought we had a chance to win at least 7 of the last 9 games.
This is very disappointing
by WaddellCanseco on Jul 2, 2008 3:36 PM PDT up reply actions
Time to start thinking about
Selling—not buying.
Everything looks nicer when you win. The girls are prettier. The cigars taste better. The trees are greener. Billy Martin
Much like injuries influenced Bean's decision to dump in the offseason
Today should probably reinforce to him the fact that he’ll need to start selling soon.
"I've never hit a ball that good and not have it go out" –Jack Cust
by PortlandPachyderm on Jul 2, 2008 3:41 PM PDT up reply actions
Time to think about
what I’m going to get for an afternoon snack…
"optimism 1 pessimism 0" ~Dirk
by 149 on Jul 2, 2008 3:37 PM PDT up reply actions
worse than
stepping on a dog turd, then walking around the house for ten minutes before…
OH!!!
"I never predict anything, and I never will." Paul Gascoigne, English footballer
by One won lost won on Jul 2, 2008 3:36 PM PDT reply actions
hey, my shut went away??
"I never predict anything, and I never will." Paul Gascoigne, English footballer
by One won lost won on Jul 2, 2008 3:37 PM PDT up reply actions
We're not out of it because we're too far back
We’re out of it because we’re getting less healthy at the time we were counting on getting healthier.
I like Cindi. A. She never pretends to know more than she does. B. She has unbridled enthusiasm for her "Hotties," and isn't afraid to show it. -IM4Oakgal
The killer B's today...
Bullpen and baserunning. Oh, and broken players.
"I've never hit a ball that good and not have it go out" –Jack Cust
by PortlandPachyderm on Jul 2, 2008 3:38 PM PDT reply actions
Funny Story about C-Gone:
I got his autograph on Amelia’s ball last week and I let him know that he is my wife’s favorite player. the girl that was riding with him answered in a caddy way, “He’s my favorite too!!”.
The kid may need Micky Morabito to find him a NON Chavy wife #1 type…I’m just sayin’
Pride And Poise!!!
by Raymond St. Martin (Saint) on Jul 2, 2008 3:39 PM PDT reply actions
I mean the team on the field today
was less then 10 million in payroll. They looked like it too
by asfaninpismobeach on Jul 2, 2008 3:39 PM PDT reply actions
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