New Suitor for Street?
As per mlbtraderumors.com.
11:34pm: Haudricourt says the Brewers dispatched their top special assistant to watch the A's play the Yankees. Haudricourt speculates that the Brewers might have an eye on Huston Street, who is under team control through 2010. Street's had an off-year, mainly due to a rising home run rate.
I'm unsure why the Brew Crew is in the hunt for Street, then again, I don't really pay attention to them.
So, who in the Brewers system would you ask for in a deal for Street?
UPDATE!
Street To Brewers Could Be Done Deal
Brewers beat writer Tom Haudricourt thinks Oakland closer Huston Street is Milwaukee-bound. He says the word on the street is outfielder Darren Ford, 22, is the price. Ford was pulled from Brevard County's lineup before its game against Clearwater.
Baseball America did not list Ford among the Brewers' top 10 prospects before this season, but he was named the organization's fastest baserunner and best defensive outfielder. So far this year in the Florida State League, Ford is hitting .232 with a .321 OBP and a .307 SLG. He's got 44 steals in 87 games.
Second edit: Its not Street.
WSSP 1250 AM in Milwaukee is reporting that Milwaukee Brewers and the San Francisco Giants are close to a deal that would send Milwaukee's Double A Catcher Angel Salome, Single A prospect Outfielder/speedster Darren Ford, and Triple A First Baseman Brad Nelson to the Giants for Second Baseman Ray Durham, Reliever Jack Taschner, and a PTBNL.
Third Edit:
Haudricourt says the Brewers scouted Street but the scouts were not impressed. He's not coming to Milwaukee.
Better hope the Rays will take him.
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So the Top Brewers guy is watching Street, and the Rays are interested in Street and Murton
Get a good deal, Billy!
The Brewers and Rays both really need closer/setup help, so it makes sense. The Brewers might match up better for Street than the Rays actually, as while I don’t know much about the Brewers system (other than we all wanted to do Street for LaPorta, but can’t anylonger), the Rays system has a lot of pitching and a bunch of dissapointing or injured offensive players.
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by Zonis on Jul 18, 2008 10:07 PM PDT 0 recs
From the Brewers we might get Mat Gamel
He’s their best hitting prospect, and one of the best in the minors. He’s absolutely exploded this year.
I have a hunch that Murton isn’t starting because he’s going to be flipped in another deal, and the A’s are lukewarm on him. That explains Emil Brown starting over him.
If the A’s think Murton isn’t very good, and think that he’d pull an 0-20 if he starting 6 straight games, then they’d rather just sit him and flip him to another team in a week, than risk watching his value go down in the starting lineup by playing every day.
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by notsellingjeans on Jul 18, 2008 10:10 PM PDT 0 recs
Gamel is the guy I bet
if we deal with the Brewers. The A’s need a 3B in the system desperately, and he’s a top hitter.
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by Zonis on
Jul 18, 2008 10:12 PM PDT
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Maybe...
Snap up Escobar too?
I don’t know what his stats are, but apparently he’s a SS…
Lemme check.
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by Morgasm on
Jul 18, 2008 10:13 PM PDT
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I'd love Escobar. I doubt they'd consider Gamel for Street
When you have a chance to get a guy like Sean Gallagher, you take it!
by WaddellCanseco on
Jul 19, 2008 3:38 PM PDT
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If the Brew Crew is in "It's now or never" mode
I would love this trade!
And yes—let Murton play!!
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by oaklandSMASH on
Jul 18, 2008 11:15 PM PDT
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Brewers top 20 from Sickles
Milwaukee Brewers Top 20 Prospects for 2008All grades are EXTREMELY PRELIMINARY and subject to change.
Matt LaPorta, OF, Grade B+ (great bat, glove??)
Manny Parra, LHP, Grade B+ (a really good prospect who needs more attention)
Mat Gamel, 3B, Grade B
Jeremy Jeffress, RHP, Grade B (assumes he stops smoking dope)
Jonathan Lucroy, C, Grade B-
Taylor Green, 3B, Grade B-
Cole Gillespie, OF, Grade C+
Alicides Escobar, SS, Grade C+ (overrated by lots of people IMHO)
Caleb Gindl, OF, Grade C+ (very promising, want more data)
Angel Salome, C, Grade C+
Michael Brantley, OF, Grade C+ (a personal favorite I admit)
Lorenzo Cain, OF, Grade C+
Zach Braddock, LHP, Grade C+
Robert Bryson, RHP, Grade C+
Hernan Iribarren, 2B, Grade C+
Brent Brewer, SS, Grade C (yes I know all about his tools. He is so damn raw that I don’t believe in him yet.)
R.J. Seidel, RHP, Grade C
Zack Jackson, LHP, Grade C
Cody Scarpetta, RHP, Grade C
Dan Merklinger, LHP, Grade C
Others Grade Cs who are interchangeable with those above include Chris Cody, Chris Errecart, Eric Farris, Darren Ford, Steve Hammond, Robert Hinton, Brendan Katin, Brad Nelson, Lou Palmisano, Mark Rogers and Vinny Rottino.
Again, don’t get all pissy about exact placement on this list. The grades are more important than someone being ranked 15th instead of 13th.This system has been thinned out by promotions and trades, but I suspect they will recharge quickly.
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by Zonis on Jul 18, 2008 10:11 PM PDT 0 recs
Oooh.
Gamel is a 3B.
This is interesting.
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by Morgasm on
Jul 18, 2008 10:12 PM PDT
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Gamel is a 3B in much the same way that Jack Cust is an outfielder
viz, badly.
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by PaulThomas on
Jul 18, 2008 10:54 PM PDT
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That's what I hear
Haven’t heard anybody that thinks Gamel can stick at third.
by sggut95 on
Jul 19, 2008 10:57 AM PDT
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Street is gone for sure
I think there’s almost no way Street is on this team in three weeks.
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by notsellingjeans on Jul 18, 2008 10:12 PM PDT 0 recs
How is Escobar overated ???
This guy is legit as far as i’ve read. I think Beane would be extremely happy to deal Street and receive a future star SS like Escobar in return. Escobar would be a great return. Though, getting Escobar AND Green would make me jump for joy !
I really don’t see the Brewers giving up their top hitting prospect in Gamel. He is supposed to have a higher ceiling the Laporta and the guy is going to replace Fielder when he leaves.
by Gaffletic on Jul 18, 2008 10:17 PM PDT 0 recs
That list is from December 2007
And if you look at his stats, they are pretty bad before this season.
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by Zonis on
Jul 18, 2008 10:20 PM PDT
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Gamel
Brewers already have Buan at 3B and Fielder is still at 1B…
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by Zonis on
Jul 18, 2008 10:21 PM PDT
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braun is in LF
i belive hall was playing some 3b with branyan
by Asfan4ever723 on
Jul 18, 2008 10:28 PM PDT
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Wow, Buan is really getting around
Those plane flights from Oakland to Milwaukee must be killer though.
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by PaulThomas on
Jul 18, 2008 10:55 PM PDT
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He can do Extra Innings from Milwaukee
When you have a chance to get a guy like Sean Gallagher, you take it!
by WaddellCanseco on
Jul 19, 2008 3:39 PM PDT
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bobby crosby was a future star shortstop
just sayin…
by connie mack on
Jul 19, 2008 10:36 AM PDT
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Brewer fan on MLB Traderumors says that Melvin said that Escobar is untouchable
He thinks that the Brewers wouldn’t trade Gamel, but didn’t say tha Melvin deemed him untouchable. I’d imagine that Gamel would be the A’s top target far and away.
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by Zonis on Jul 18, 2008 10:19 PM PDT 0 recs
Billy..
Billy has a knack for getting what he wants. I’m positive that 2 1/2 years of a proven, cost controlled closer will bring in some very nice value.
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by Morgasm on
Jul 18, 2008 10:25 PM PDT
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He also has a knack
for having what he wants being something we never heard of or expected. This is the main reason I think that neither Gamel or Escobar will be in the deal.
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by jeepers on
Jul 19, 2008 11:15 AM PDT
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beane will bring down his price
he asked for 2b Weeks at winter meetings
i bet he takes 3 mid tier guys and mil doesnt trade gaml/escobar
my guess is Gillespie/brantley or cain/brewer, maybe even a bit less
i know they are older and closer to free agency but street probably gets traded similar to what lidge/valverde
The Astros sent Lidge and utility player Eric Bruntlett to the Phillies for Bourn, righthanded reliever Geoff Geary and third-base prospect Mike Costanzo
The Arizona Diamondbacksacks sent Rolaids Relief Pitcher of the Year Jose Valverde to the Houston Astros for 2B/OF Chris Burke plus pitchers Chad Qualls and Juan Gutierrez.
by Asfan4ever723 on Jul 18, 2008 10:24 PM PDT 0 recs
He just got 2 Bs and a C+ for Blanton
I find it difficult to believe that he would deal Street for a couple of C+ prospects. Street is simply a better value than either of the two guys you cited above.
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by PaulThomas on
Jul 18, 2008 11:00 PM PDT
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exactly
especially since lidge hadn’t been the same since pujols hit that jack in the playoffs and Valverde had only really been around for a year.
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by designatedforassignment on
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gamel
Well that breakthrough has occured: Gamel is hitting .370/.434/.630 with 14 homers, 33 walks, and 52 strikeouts in 289 at-bats. Obviously this is outstanding production, and at age 22 he’s not old for the level at all. His lefty/right and home/road splits are all balanced. He has “slumped” a bit in June, down to .323/.405/.468…and when that’s your worst month so far you know you are going good.
Defense remains the main problem. He’s cut his error rate this year…18 errors thus far for a .906 fielding percentage, very poor but not as bad as last year’s horrific .826 mark. He has the range and arm strength but may simply never have the reliability. He runs well enough to play an outfield corner, so that’s an option eventually, although it would be more convenient if the Brewers had a DH option of course.
I don’t know where he is going to fit on the playing field, but I have no doubts about the bat. I’m not sure why Gamel doesnt’ get more attention on a national level…he’s young, his performance has improved from good to excellent, and there are no holes in his numbers. If he were played for a team on a coast you would hear more about him I imagine.
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by Asfan4ever723 on Jul 18, 2008 10:27 PM PDT 0 recs
Brewer fan checking in...
Hey guys, I’m a big Brewer fan and regular poster over at Brew Crew Ball. As far as Street is concerned, the Brewers desperately need a closer.
Here’s what’s going on in Milwaukee. We overhauled our bullpen in the offseason by signing Eric Gagné to a one year, $10m deal (which has proved to be… unsuccessful thusfar), bringing in Guillermo Mota from the Mets for estranged catcher Johnny Estrada (also, an unsuccessful pick-up), signed ex-Royal David Riske to a three-year deal (has been very dependable, but not extraordinary), and traded for Saloman Torres from the Pirates (who has been arguable the acquisition of the year outside of Sabathia for this team).
We don’t have a solution for the 8th inning right now, and the Cubs have 4.0 games on us after tonight. That being said, the Brewers have stated they are going for it this year by picking up Sabathia and would look into other options. I believe Street, if I’m not mistaken, has about $3.3M due this year and then is signed through ‘09, correct? He could be a closer that would hopefully be as successful as Francisco Cordero was when we traded away Carlos Lee.
Reading what you guys have been talking about, it’s a definite fact that you won’t get both Alcides Escobar and Mat Gamel. Also, I would not expect to see the Brewers parting ways with ex-first rounder Jeremy Jeffries. I would be really, really hard-pressed if you guys even got one of them for Street. The Brewers already dealt top prospect Matt LaPorta to the Indians for Sabathia, and losing two of the top three prospects just won’t be something general manager Doug Melvin will be interested in (a man who has built the majority of the team through the draft).
However, that being said, there is a ton of talent in the Brewers farm system, arguably the most in the majors. Guys like OF Lorenzo Cain (.280 – .290 hitter, some pop in his bat, good prospect), or C Angel Salome from our AA Huntsville team (10 AA All Star’s this year from that team) could be key parts to a possible A’s-Brewers swap, Gillespie is another guy we could throw in. Take any one of the guys from below the top three (Jeffries, Gamel, and Escobar), all of whom have really high ceilings, and this trade could happen.
The Brewers matchup really well with a lot of teams because of their depth of prospects. Just because a guy is #7 or #10 on the Brewers’ prospect charts doesn’t mean they’re a stereotypical #7 or #10. There is incredible talent being developed, and Milwaukee has always been one of the top drafting teams in the past few years (J.J. Hardy, Rickie Weeks, Prince Fielder, Ryan Braun, Yovani Gallardo, Manny Parra, Ben Sheets, Bill Hall, Corey Hart come to mind).
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by ryan braun on Jul 18, 2008 11:35 PM PDT 0 recs
I believe Street is signed this year, and is under team control for 2009 and 2010
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by Zonis on
Jul 18, 2008 11:40 PM PDT
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The longer he is under team control for...
The more the Brewers are probably willing to give up to get him in a Brewers uniform. Melvin is not a real easy GM to swindle, though, so I do not know how easily Billy is going to have his way with him. He’s known to be some what of a tough negotiator. He’s no Mark Shapiro (I love Moneyball, but then again, who doesn’t?).
It would be awesome if he was under control through 2010, but the guys over at BCB did some digging on his contract and it appeared as if he was under team control up until ‘09. If it’s 2010, awesome! Us Brewers fans are just excited about the prospect of playoff baseball being within our grasp. We haven’t sniffed the playoffs since 1982. 2nd longest drought in the majors, but hey, at least there’s another NL Central team with a more… impressive streak of their own (see Cubs, Chicago).
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by ryan braun on
Jul 18, 2008 11:44 PM PDT
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Cot's Baseball Contracts
Huston Street rhp
1 year/$3.3M (2008)
signed 1/17/08 (avoided arbitration)
1 year/$0.38M (2007), renewed 3/07
1 year/$339,625 (2006), renewed 3/06
1 year/$0.316M (2005), contract purchased 4/05
drafted 2004 (1s-40), $0.8M signing bonus
agent: Hendricks Sports
ML service: 3.000
Subtract 1 year of Service Time or 2008, and thats 4 years of ML Service Time. That leaves 2 years left after 2008; 2009 and 2010.
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by Zonis on
Jul 18, 2008 11:52 PM PDT
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Question for ryan braun -
Do the Brewers still feel they need rotation help or do they now feel set with Sabathia added? I was hoping the A’s could package Street and Dana Eveland and get the “future true plus bat” they so desperately need. Would the inclusion of Eveland help pry the prospect Beane really wants, do you think?
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by Nico on
Jul 19, 2008 8:18 AM PDT
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Dana Eveland was a Brewer, back in the day
He was, and he wasn’t that good. I was just looking at his stats and could not believe how, well, good he’s been with you guys. I am not surprised, the dude has good stuff, but he certainly wasn’t impressive in Milwaukee and we let him walk away in a trade to Arizona (Doug Davis and Eveland for Johnny Estrada + some change). Naturally, I do not think that the Brewers would welcome back Eveland when we’ve got a platoon going at our #5 starter role right now.
What we’re doing is pitching Dave Bush for home starts and Seth McClung for road starts. We’ve got Sabathia, Sheets, and Parra as locks for the rotation, and Jeff Suppan is as well due to his track record and four-year, $42M contract. Bush has pitched lights out and McClung’s been above average. So, I would say that our rotation is locked up. If we did not have Sabathia, then I would say yes.
I do not have a good idea of your farm system and what you need, but a guy that I keep thinking is not having space in Milwaukee is Tony Gwynn Jr. I think he’d be a great addition to a lot of teams because of his speed and contact. I love the guy! I do not know why we haven’t brought him up to play some sort of 4th outfielder, but we have Mike Cameron, Ryan Braun, and Corey Hart starting and Gabe Kapler as the fourth outfielder.
Whether or not you need depth at the infield, we’ve got a lot of talent in third baseman / second baseman Taylor Green. Lots of rumors he’s the PBTNL in the Sabathia deal, however I think it’s Brantley, so if Green isn’t then he could go to the A’s. He’s got somewhat of a lighter bat but is a whiz defensively, high OPB, something Beane would like. Other than him, we are very weak there because, well, we have the infield of Fielder / Weeks / Hardy and … Bill Hall.
I could see the Brewers drop J.J. Hardy or Rickie Weeks, but if you’re looking for a deal before July 31st, then expect Rickie over J.J., who is much more of a fan favorite. We can live without Rickie.
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by ryan braun on
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Thanks for the insights
Obviously if you didn’t have Sabathia, you wouldn’t be looking for a pitcher like Eveland, you’d be looking for a pitcher like Sabathia (who, judging from his swings last night, would be the A’s best hitter).
Weeks makes some theoretical sense in that we just drafted his brother. However, he just has not proven he is a quality major leaguer – he has all the tools, but it’s hard to say whether his addition into a lineup makes it better or worse. I don’t know why he hasn’t put it together but he hasn’t.
Where the A’s need help is a plus-hitter who can play defense adequately or better at SS or 3B. They have 1,000,000 young pitchers and 1B/OFers and that’s great – key, because some of them are truly outstanding – but are weak on the left side of the infield.
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by Nico on
Jul 19, 2008 9:12 AM PDT
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100% Agree
Rickie Weeks has a lot of people believing that he’s going to be an All Star second baseman, but he has not simply panned out. Maybe he needs a change of scenery or maybe he needs to get out of the leadoff spot which he is in, but Weeks needs to change something. He could hit 20, 25 home runs a year.
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by ryan braun on
Jul 19, 2008 9:20 AM PDT
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Isn't Green the PTBNL in the Sabathia trade if he can play 3B?
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by WaddellCanseco on
Jul 19, 2008 3:45 PM PDT
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Mark Shapiro is good at trades...
He got Asdrubal Cabrera for peanuts and built half his franchise on the Bartolo Colon trade.
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by PaulThomas on
Jul 19, 2008 10:53 AM PDT
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Asdrubal "demoted to AAA" Cabrera?
But yeah, the Colon thing was a masterful one. Cleveland has a great franchise they just get critically unlucky (even this year they’re at about .500 pythag. record)
by nevermoor on
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The reason why we believe that the A's would go hard after either Gamel or Escobar
is because the biggest, and by biggest I mean a cavern size hole in the organization is Third Base and Short Stop. At Third Base, we have the injured remnants of Eric Chavez, who if he got healthy might help a good team, but for an injury prone team thats rebuilding, is not really nessisary, and a bunch of organizational fillers. Hannahan is decent defensivly, but hasn’t hit offensivly. Murphy is a utility infielder and can’t hit, and when he can, he’s a platoon guy, and Basiley is doing decent in 3B but is out with a fractured foot.
At Short Stop, the A’s have Bobby Crosby signed through 2009, and whom I think most A’s fans would like to see dealt somewhere (LAD?) and replaced. But we have no one in the Minors really to replace him? Cliff Pennington is doing decently at AAA this year, but thats the ONLY level and ONLY time he’s actually had anywhere respectable numbers. Gregorio Petit is a defensive wiz at SS, but with a weak bat (though maybe better than Pennington). And after that, we have some hopefuls maybe… in.. um… Rookie ball.
2B used to be a position of need, but a draft pick, two trades and a minor league free agent later, its a position where the A’s have a few options.
But everywere else, the A’s have a lot of depth. OF is somewhat full. 1B/DH is full. Even catcher might be full, with Suzuki in his first full year in the Majors, Powell needing to get healthy but still with potential in AAA, Recker doing well in AA, and new acquisition Donaldson doing well in A+ since being acquired by the Cubs.
And the A’s have pitching depth up the wazoo.
That is why I think the A’s would want one of Gamel and Escobar in there. Beane might go with a slew of lower level prospects in a deal, but we already have a ton of depth, and the team really needs is an elite player at a position of need, not another Outfield prospect.
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by Zonis on
Jul 18, 2008 11:49 PM PDT
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We could also use 1 of our many pitchers (not top) that are decent prospects to throw into the deal.
A decent pitching prospect maybe all that is needed to finish of a trade with Street and we can get what we need from the Brewers.
by calas on
Jul 19, 2008 6:36 AM PDT
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Thanks for the visit
Beane is nuts if Escobar isn’t at the top of hiw wish list, although I agree with you that Gamel+Escobar is extremely unlikely.
Beane’s MO has been to target one top prospect (Escobar) and then focus on guys with good (not great) upside but maybe have a ways to go before they’re Show worthy.
What can you tell us about Huntsville’s Michael Brantley? Is he a legit CF?
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by grover on
Jul 19, 2008 7:12 AM PDT
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Beane would be nuts if he didn't consider Escobar
Escobar has rocketed up the prospect boards this year in AA because, quite frankly, he’s one of the best defensive shortstops in the minors and has a line of .339/.369/.445 with 7 HR and 60 RBIs in AA Huntsville. So, not bad stuff.
I would say that if the A’s really, really want Escobar, and from what I’m reading here it sounds like you guys really need a shortstop outside of ‘09 (I would say Escobar, if you want him to pan out, would go to AAA next year and be a September call-up or earlier, otherwise you’re rushing him), the Brewers are going to need something more than Street. Pitching is a plus, and a starter would be nice that wasn’t in the majors but had upside and was moderately close (AAA or AA, preferably).
Escobar and Gwynn Jr. would be a nice package for Street, but the Brewers would most certainly need more compensation than just Street. Michael Brantley is a very legit CF, we’re pretty excited about him, however he is most likely the PBTNL in the Sabathia deal, the Indians have stated they would not have completed the deal without the PBTNL.
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by ryan braun on
Jul 19, 2008 9:09 AM PDT
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We are flush with legitimate A-AAA pitching prospects
If Beane wants Escobar, and the Brewers want Street plus a decent AA pitching prospect, they should be able to get a deal done – if they can agree on the pitcher. It won’t be Trevor Cahill or Brett Anderson and I don’t know if someone like Vince Mazzaro (who’s having a great year but was wobbly last year) is enough. Not sure who the right piece might be, but it’s probably there.
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by Nico on
Jul 19, 2008 9:15 AM PDT
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Why would Brantley be a PTBNL?
He’s got the service time to get traded outright.
In a trade like the Sabs deal, you’d think that the PTBNL would be someone from the 2007 draft who didn’t sign until August. MLB rules state a player must remain with his drafting org. for a full year before he can get traded.
Personally speaking, if you want Street then you give up Escobar and you don’t get anything extra. 2.5 years of Street for a team needing immediate bullpen help vs. your AA shortstop. You want more in return, then you’d need to offer up more on your end.
Sheets and Sabs looking to walk and Fielder giving you a hard time with Arby, this is probably the Brewers best shot for the next couple years. Be a shame to see ‘em fall short ‘cause they wouldn’t shore up their bullpen. ;-) Remember, the Brewers aren’t the only team looking for bullpen help. Tampa’s been looking at Street as well, so the Brewers’ offer would have to beat the Rays.
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by grover on
Jul 19, 2008 4:50 PM PDT
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Brantley could be a PTBNL
if they are putting Green on trial as a 3B and he fails. Brantley could be the fallback
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by WaddellCanseco on
Jul 19, 2008 6:33 PM PDT
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Gamel = Nope
Torres has done a great job as closer and the team is confident in him to continue, but like its said, the setup role is a big weakness right now. At this point in the season it doesn’t appear Mota or Gagne will be effective enough for that, not sure if Riske is either. Considering the Brewers are in a win now mode, they might not want to take time with Riske to find out. I do think Embree might be the one moved, not Street. As an A’s and Brewers fan I’d like to see Street moved to the Crew but they won’t be trading Gamel or Escobar (let alone both). The Brewers still have a pretty solid system and other things to offer. BB is always on the hunt for pitching and I’d think more middle infield help. We’ll see…maybe he can pry Escobar away after all if its for Street.
Gamel is next in line for 3B, or if they move Fielder (doubtful to me) in the offseason, 1B. Gamel is compared to Wade Boggs with power, not that it means anything but he seems like the real deal hitting wise.
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by WiscoFan on
Jul 19, 2008 8:33 AM PDT
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The A's would probably move Embree for a good low-level SS/3B prospect
I don’t know if the Brewers have any of those. The A’s are stocked to the gills with LHP relief options.
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by PaulThomas on
Jul 19, 2008 10:59 AM PDT
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We have Brent Brewer!
He can’t hit. Or field. But he was a second round pick in 06, and has lots of potential!
Another guy would be 3B/SS Zelous Wheeler.
And neck size to baby eating ratio.
by jihad on
Jul 19, 2008 11:02 AM PDT
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Wheeler is listed as a second baseman
and, to be honest, I’m not seeing a whole lot there unless he signed for an over-slot bonus.
I think Beane would prefer a solid pitcher or outfielder to a mediocre shortstop.
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by PaulThomas on
Jul 19, 2008 11:05 AM PDT
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Yeah, just throwing names out there
Wheeler can play 3rd and short. Behind Taylor Green, who the Brewers wouldn’t give up for Embree, there isn’t much for SS/3B in the low minors. A young pitcher or two would be more likely for that type of deal.
And neck size to baby eating ratio.
by jihad on
Jul 19, 2008 11:36 AM PDT
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I'd rather have Brent Brewer than a C pitching prospect
When you have a chance to get a guy like Sean Gallagher, you take it!
by WaddellCanseco on
Jul 19, 2008 3:47 PM PDT
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On Gamel and Escobar
Beane definitley has his way of gettin top prospects, just look at the trade with the philies. Brew Crew if there going to go to the playoffs and hope to go deep into the playoffs you can ride Torres through out that and that i think is why the brewers are looking at Street. I could definitley see you guys giving up either Gamel or Escobar straight up but for some reason i think its not gonna be just Street involved in this trade. If it goes down it’ll be exciting to see what happens
by greenstampede15 on
Jul 19, 2008 9:37 AM PDT
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A FIELDER WHO CAN HIT!
Prince Semien Fielder!
For Street, Murton and one (or two) of the young prospects he got from the Phils.
You put Prince on first, Thomas/Sweeney DH, Cust in left, Ryan in right, platoon center with Brown and Davis, Ellis on second, Crosby at short and keep Hannihan on 3rd (and pray like hell Chavvy heals faster, pussycat, faster and In truly believe (with a lucky break or two here and there; like Tampa Bay and Yanks lose a few, except when they’re playing the Halos) the A’s will make it to the post-season.
Prince Fielder. (Okay, it’s a pipe dream but Billy has pulled more than a few trick rabbits out of his green ‘n gold cap.)
Holy Toledo!!!
by Johnny U on Jul 18, 2008 11:55 PM PDT 0 recs
Brown can barely play LF, let alone Centerfield
unless you mean Corey Brown, to which I ask why you are promoting him out of Single A when he hasn’t really managed to hit in Stockton yet.
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by Zonis on
Jul 19, 2008 12:01 AM PDT
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A dilemma in CF.
What to do with Emil when Frank and Mike return?
No way we’re sitting Jack. He’s due for another HR streak.
I put Emil in center because I think Ryan is our right fielder and if Cust is not DH he’s our LF.
We put Davis in center when we’re defending a lead, and Emil when we need the RBIs.
And no way am I alluding to Corey. Are you kidding?? LOL
Holy Toledo!!!
by Johnny U on
Jul 19, 2008 12:20 AM PDT
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Corey Brown can probably hit better in the Majors than Emil right now
What do we do with Emil when Thomas and/or Mike Sweeney come back? Well, there’s a reason why we like to call him DFA.
Ryan Sweeney can play CF. So can Carlos Gonzalez. The Brewers are going for it this year, so why would they subtract a major part of their offense for a Closer, a platoon outfielder, and a minor leaguer? They need MLB guys who can help right now. That is why we all suggest going for Gamel or Escobar.
As for what to do when Thomas gets back, why not just go with;
C1 Suzuki
1B Barton
2B Ellis
3B Chavez
SS Crosby
LF Cust
RF Gonzalez
CF Sweeney
DH Thomas
The only thing is, I think we’d be better off dealing Crosby and Ellis eventually, though I’d trade Justin Duchscherer, Huston Street, Alan Embree and Keith Foulke first, so to use their defense to prop up our pitchers values. And this is assuming that Chavez can actually come back and play, otherwise, you’d have to insert Hannahan at 3B there unfortunetly.
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by Zonis on
Jul 19, 2008 12:37 AM PDT
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You do realize that CF is Carlos Gonzalez and RF is Sweeney.
With Cust in LF
Thomas at DH
you have a pretty good lineup. Not sure how Murton fits in right now.. maybe more next year or maybe he gets traded.
The only reason to put Gonzalez in RF is if Davis is in CF.
"Whether you think you can, or you think you can't, either way, YOU'RE RIGHT !"
by Eastbayjim on
Jul 19, 2008 12:57 AM PDT
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Thanks for pointing that out. CarGo appears to be a very nice player
and our best hope in CF since younger Kotsay came to Oakland. CarGo and Sweeney are my two favorites on this team and they look like the real deal.
Was Black Snake Moan a comedy or a drama?
by ohtobe21likehuston on
Jul 19, 2008 7:18 AM PDT
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Ellis never.
You trade Ellis, you trade the heart.
Holy Toledo!!!
by Johnny U on
Jul 19, 2008 12:01 PM PDT
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The Brewers are open to trading Fielder
There’s been rumblings that I think are pretty legit that say that the Brewers are semi-interested in dumping Fielder in the offseason because he’s a Boras client who refuses to sell away his arbitration years, which is what the Brewers want to do with their young players and lock them up long-term. If Fielder would be involved, it will have to be in the winter and not during the year.
If he's the Prince, then I'm the King.
by ryan braun on
Jul 19, 2008 9:11 AM PDT
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As good as Fielder is, he has a pretty large platoon split
this year and for his career (as well as a bizarrely dramatic home/road split this year but that doesn’t look typical). Still, he’d help any team offensively.
I like Cindi. A. She never pretends to know more than she does. B. She has unbridled enthusiasm for her "Hotties," and isn't afraid to show it. -IM4Oakgal
by Nico on
Jul 19, 2008 9:16 AM PDT
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Don't trust Fielder's numbers this year
He’s been really streaky this year, and if you watch him throughout the course of the year you will realize he is not a platoon player.
http://milwaukee.brewers.mlb.com/media/video.jsp?mid=200807193152509
Here he is hitting a home run last night off of a lefty handed specialist (Jack Tauschner, I believe, who is second or third on his team in holds). Fielder’s a great hitter who needs to lose weight. He’s Chunky McButterpants right now. You just can’t platoon this guy, and you can’t DH him because you can expect him to explode weight-wise.
If he's the Prince, then I'm the King.
by ryan braun on
Jul 19, 2008 9:24 AM PDT
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I saw the HR yesterday and I agree,
he’s not a platoon player. His .298 OBP vs. LHP this year just makes me think one could spend an awful lot in talent and/or money to get a guy who will not mash everyone – but in fact he probably will. He would instantly become the A’s best hitter by far.
I like Cindi. A. She never pretends to know more than she does. B. She has unbridled enthusiasm for her "Hotties," and isn't afraid to show it. -IM4Oakgal
by Nico on
Jul 19, 2008 9:53 AM PDT
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