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Blanton Traded To Phillies

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Tip from Zonis, who was watching SportsCenter.

http://www.athleticsnation.com/2008/7/17/573771/breaking-news-sportsenter

More details to come!

From SF Gate:

(07-17) 15:56 PDT -- The A's are trading Joe Blanton to Philadelphia, according to ESPN. Blanton, dealt to the Phillies in exchange for three minor-leaguers, is 5-12 with a 4.96 ERA and has been better at home (4.63 ERA) than away (5.74).

Blanton's record has been a disappointment this season. Last year, he was 14-10 with a 3.95 ERA. On June 29 against the Giants in Oakland, he was tagged for seven runs and eight hits over four-plus innings in the Giants' 11-1 victory. In losing that game, he became the first pitcher in the AL to lose 11 games. At the time, he had given up 16 runs in his last 14 innings and lost five of six starts.

 The Athletics get second baseman Adrian Cardenas, pitcher Josh Outman and outfielder Matthew Spencer, all minor leaguers.

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Where will the details come through first?

I’d still rather have Street on my team than K-Rod, just because I hate douchebags. -Taj Adib

by Leopold Bloom on Jul 17, 2008 3:59 PM PDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

LET THE SPECULATION BEGIN!!!

Carrasco, Donald, and Brett Myers because they soured on him! :D

by mikev on Jul 17, 2008 3:59 PM PDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Brett Myers...

Yay! Our pitching staff’s Worthless POS Quotient has really declined since Loaiza left!

There's no textbook for how to treat a geriatric tapir.

by Poppy on Jul 17, 2008 4:03 PM PDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

OMG!!

AHHHH! I left the stove on!!!
********OaKlAnDaThLeTiCs********

by LiZaRdReVoLuTiOn on Jul 17, 2008 4:00 PM PDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

I was just gonna post this.

Im too slow.

When will then be now? Soon.

by Syphon on Jul 17, 2008 4:00 PM PDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

I just put it in the Blanton to Philly rumor posts

I didn’t want to make a new fanpost and write filler 86 times.

by mikev on Jul 17, 2008 4:02 PM PDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Haha yeah.

When will then be now? Soon.

by Syphon on Jul 17, 2008 4:20 PM PDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Too bad his numbers weren't so terrible looking....

Could have gotten more for him…..its probably too early to say what they got….earlier in the day Jason Werth was mentioned, obviously not a minor leaguer…..

In Billy we trust right?

by Cochran86 on Jul 17, 2008 4:02 PM PDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Easiest nickname conversion ever

Phillie fans love

Those were the reasons and that was New York, we were running for the money and the flesh.

by FreeSeatUpgrade on Jul 17, 2008 4:06 PM PDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Yumm.

Now im hungry.

When will then be now? Soon.

by Syphon on Jul 17, 2008 4:53 PM PDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

How long until Blanton and Ryan Howard

have an eating contest (to see who can eat the other)?

I like Cindi. A. She never pretends to know more than she does. B. She has unbridled enthusiasm for her "Hotties," and isn't afraid to show it. -IM4Oakgal

by Nico on Jul 17, 2008 4:54 PM PDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   1 recs

QOTM

"All managers are losers, they are the most expendable pieces of furniture on the face of the Earth."- Ted Williams

by Gaijin_Suketto on Jul 17, 2008 4:57 PM PDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

I think Joe is more of a Jelly Krimpet, mysefl

"And Julio Franco is batting right-handed!" -- Wayne Hagin, A's radio play-by-play, mid-80s

by Nick on Jul 17, 2008 5:40 PM PDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

CArdenas is one of them

http://sports.espn.go.com/mlb/news/story?id=3494315

The Athletics get second baseman Adrian Cardenas, pitcher Josh Outman and outfielder Matthew Spencer, all minor leaguers.

by theblackpearl on Jul 17, 2008 4:07 PM PDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Um.

I don’t like all this sudden stocking-up on 2nd basemen. I think I’m done reading again.

There's no textbook for how to treat a geriatric tapir.

by Poppy on Jul 17, 2008 4:08 PM PDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Cardenas has played short

Not that I think we are re-signing Ellis, given these last two trades. But it’s not a sure thing, yet.

by Mark Borgschulte on Jul 17, 2008 4:13 PM PDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Sickels' 2008 writeup says he lacked range at SS,

but didn’t fare much better at 2B and that scouts believe he’ll be moved to the OF. So kind of another Patterson in that regard.

I like Cindi. A. She never pretends to know more than she does. B. She has unbridled enthusiasm for her "Hotties," and isn't afraid to show it. -IM4Oakgal

by Nico on Jul 17, 2008 4:15 PM PDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

I heard

his arm is also a problem, so 3B is largely out of the question.

Looks like a LF/CF kind of guy (not that it matters, since the bat will play everywhere)

by FirebatM3 on Jul 17, 2008 4:20 PM PDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Baseball Prospectus 2008 says basically the same thing.

by Philip Christy on Jul 17, 2008 4:22 PM PDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

yuck

The A's colors are green and gold.

by mikeA on Jul 17, 2008 4:30 PM PDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Beane's gonna field 8 Figginseseses

I told them 'My game is like a blog.' Because I don't know what a blog is, but it don't sound good. @('.')@

by monkeyball on Jul 17, 2008 4:31 PM PDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

They would out-steal 8 Hattebergs

I like Cindi. A. She never pretends to know more than she does. B. She has unbridled enthusiasm for her "Hotties," and isn't afraid to show it. -IM4Oakgal

by Nico on Jul 17, 2008 4:33 PM PDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Paul DePodesta did some simulations

and determined that a lineup of 8 Chone Figgenses would run really really fast.

"May a nit suck Cajun geese?" wonders Red. No, we see gnu Jack Cust in a yam.

by andeux on Jul 17, 2008 4:34 PM PDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Chone runs!

The end result of too many nacho runs.

"Camelot sure fell apart, didn't it?"-Steve McCatty

by 5Aces on Jul 17, 2008 4:35 PM PDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

I heard the simulation had him thrown out stealing

eight times by Octopusman.

I like Cindi. A. She never pretends to know more than she does. B. She has unbridled enthusiasm for her "Hotties," and isn't afraid to show it. -IM4Oakgal

by Nico on Jul 17, 2008 4:45 PM PDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

QOTM (convoluted premise division)

"All managers are losers, they are the most expendable pieces of furniture on the face of the Earth."- Ted Williams

by Gaijin_Suketto on Jul 17, 2008 4:58 PM PDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Doc Ock?

Who knew Spiderman villains could field so well?

Green Hulk Fists

by oaklandSMASH on Jul 17, 2008 5:45 PM PDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Thief! Thief Figenseseses! We hates them! We hates them forever!!!

"And Julio Franco is batting right-handed!" -- Wayne Hagin, A's radio play-by-play, mid-80s

by Nick on Jul 17, 2008 5:01 PM PDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

But they's gritty!

Youse has to respect dat even if youse wants to be hating ‘em.

I like Cindi. A. She never pretends to know more than she does. B. She has unbridled enthusiasm for her "Hotties," and isn't afraid to show it. -IM4Oakgal

by Nico on Jul 17, 2008 5:03 PM PDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

In Philly, the word is pronounced "yiz"

"And Julio Franco is batting right-handed!" -- Wayne Hagin, A's radio play-by-play, mid-80s

by Nick on Jul 17, 2008 5:13 PM PDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

In Boston, though, it's "yaz"

I like Cindi. A. She never pretends to know more than she does. B. She has unbridled enthusiasm for her "Hotties," and isn't afraid to show it. -IM4Oakgal

by Nico on Jul 17, 2008 5:14 PM PDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

How about "yins"?

"And Julio Franco is batting right-handed!" -- Wayne Hagin, A's radio play-by-play, mid-80s

by Nick on Jul 17, 2008 7:24 PM PDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Pittsburgh?

in Bal’more it’s Y’uns

"Not in your wildest alcoholic nightmare would you ever imagines such events unfolding!" Bill King

by Buck Turgidson on Jul 17, 2008 7:45 PM PDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Seriously.

It’s like….......

finish your goddamn question.

"If everything seems to be going well, you have obviously overlooked something."

by RIPHalsey on Jul 17, 2008 8:46 PM PDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

"Come with", too

I generally bemoan the profusion of Mr Sabermetric Sporks in the Scrabble ranks who don't know the meaning or usage of 50% of the words they use. -monkeyball

by JediLeroy on Jul 17, 2008 9:02 PM PDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

If Ellis leaves, Beane's gonna go to a 6-infielders alignment

I told them 'My game is like a blog.' Because I don't know what a blog is, but it don't sound good. @('.')@

by monkeyball on Jul 17, 2008 4:10 PM PDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

I don't know about that,

but they should at least move Suzuki out there too.

Let the umpire block the damn balls!

"All managers are losers, they are the most expendable pieces of furniture on the face of the Earth."- Ted Williams

by Gaijin_Suketto on Jul 17, 2008 4:59 PM PDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Apparently that was legal in the old days

Until MLB made a rule preventing it, the catcher would play in the infield when there was less than two strikes and no one on base.

Your 2008 Athletics: It's Nothing Personal.

by PaulThomas on Jul 17, 2008 5:37 PM PDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

I wonder how many fans know

that if any fielder other than the catcher sets up in foul territory before the pitch, it’s a “balk” on the fielder. Nick and I learned this when Ricky Peters, playing LF, was chatting with teammates in the A’s bullpen during a pitching change and almost didn’t get back into fair territory in time to avoid being called for a balk.

I like Cindi. A. She never pretends to know more than she does. B. She has unbridled enthusiasm for her "Hotties," and isn't afraid to show it. -IM4Oakgal

by Nico on Jul 17, 2008 6:55 PM PDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

according to Crywolffisher ...

... any players setting up in Oakland are in foul territory.

I told them 'My game is like a blog.' Because I don't know what a blog is, but it don't sound good. @('.')@

by monkeyball on Jul 17, 2008 7:58 PM PDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

re

Very happy to get Cardenas. Outman has good scouting reports. Spencer, I have no idea why they would want, even as a throw in. I’m really disappointed they didn’t get Donald.

Cardenas is now the best hitting prospect in the system. On first thought, I don’t love this, but it’s definitely not terrible.

by 31Boots on Jul 17, 2008 4:12 PM PDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Spencer's an ASU guy

Beane loves that program. So does Theo Epstein (Travis Buck and Dustin Pedroia are both ex-Sun Devils, as are recent draftees Brett Wallace, Ike Davis and Petey Paramore).

Your 2008 Athletics: It's Nothing Personal.

by PaulThomas on Jul 17, 2008 4:16 PM PDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

I'm a Sun Devil!

yeah!

OZZIE GUILLEN IS A CHILD MOLESTING CARCINOGEN

by gimpy989 on Jul 18, 2008 1:43 AM PDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

I think I love it - on a first glance

of Sickels’ book, we got (according to his ratings, which are just one guy’s view obviously) two “B” prospects and one C+ for Blanton. Outman looks interesting, a LHP with a 90-94 MPH fastball who pitched great in A+ and A and then stumbled a bit in AA. Man are we stocked for AA-AAA pitching.

I like Cindi. A. She never pretends to know more than she does. B. She has unbridled enthusiasm for her "Hotties," and isn't afraid to show it. -IM4Oakgal

by Nico on Jul 17, 2008 4:17 PM PDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Oh dear.

Trainman is going to be devastated.

I like Cindi. A. She never pretends to know more than she does. B. She has unbridled enthusiasm for her "Hotties," and isn't afraid to show it. -IM4Oakgal

by Nico on Jul 17, 2008 4:09 PM PDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

OMG

This first 2 minutes is so much better than the Harden trade! I haven’t even looked at who we got in return.

by Mark Borgschulte on Jul 17, 2008 4:10 PM PDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

I know - it's like

“I love this trade!!!!!! Who’d we get?”

I like Cindi. A. She never pretends to know more than she does. B. She has unbridled enthusiasm for her "Hotties," and isn't afraid to show it. -IM4Oakgal

by Nico on Jul 17, 2008 4:12 PM PDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

LOL

There's no textbook for how to treat a geriatric tapir.

by Poppy on Jul 17, 2008 4:16 PM PDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

lol

"Don't be an ass!" --Bill King

by batgirl on Jul 17, 2008 4:24 PM PDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Oops

Are we talking about threads or beer?

by Mark Borgschulte on Jul 17, 2008 4:44 PM PDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

if you want to destroy my sweater...

pull this thread as I walk away…

"All managers are losers, they are the most expendable pieces of furniture on the face of the Earth."- Ted Williams

by Gaijin_Suketto on Jul 17, 2008 5:03 PM PDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

I WILL UNRAVEL IT

AND YOU WILL BE NAKED!!! HAHAHA!!!

Green Hulk Fists

by oaklandSMASH on Jul 17, 2008 6:05 PM PDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Lying on the floor

(lying on the floor)

Blogadilla.com: The Tijuana of the Internet

by rungood on Jul 17, 2008 8:28 PM PDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

The three minor league players we got aren't MLB ready.

Adrian Cardenas – Class A Advanced

Josh Outman – AA

Matthew Spencer – Class A Advanced

Now we have to figure out who is going to take Blanton’s spot tomorrow!!!

by Coffee13eans on Jul 17, 2008 4:16 PM PDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

hey, now...

Blanton was about a thousand sit-ups away from being major league ready, himself.

I see this as addition by subtraction and a chance to see if Gio Gonzalez is ready for the bigs. I’m excited. He’s been pitching his ass off this last month in Sacramento, and I think he just might do a fine job in Oakland.

"All managers are losers, they are the most expendable pieces of furniture on the face of the Earth."- Ted Williams

by Gaijin_Suketto on Jul 17, 2008 5:05 PM PDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Braden time?

pleaase give the ball to Braden.

Carlos Quentin's time has arrived.

by Team Moneyball on Jul 17, 2008 4:16 PM PDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Stats

Adrian Cardenas

Josh Outman

Matthew Spencer

After checking out their stats, I have now figured out the reason behind these deals:

Billy Beane is insane.

by Philip Christy on Jul 17, 2008 4:17 PM PDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Crazy like a fox?

Or just crazy like my Aunt Bertha?

I like Cindi. A. She never pretends to know more than she does. B. She has unbridled enthusiasm for her "Hotties," and isn't afraid to show it. -IM4Oakgal

by Nico on Jul 17, 2008 4:18 PM PDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Wow

This is a total give-up on this year. I wonder if this would have happened if we were 4 out…

by Mark Borgschulte on Jul 17, 2008 4:19 PM PDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Because we traded Blanton?

I can’t feel anyway other than great about getting him out of here before he hits 20 losses.

Might as well Jump! - Van Halen

by sprtsnwyn on Jul 17, 2008 4:21 PM PDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

I'm not sure how this makes the A's worse

They were losing almost all of Blanton’s starts, and now can choose the “readiest of all options” to replace him. Maybe Gio is deemed ready, maybe Meyer has finally figured it out (his last start was one of his best in 3 years). It’s not a huge loss, at least figuratively.

I like Cindi. A. She never pretends to know more than she does. B. She has unbridled enthusiasm for her "Hotties," and isn't afraid to show it. -IM4Oakgal

by Nico on Jul 17, 2008 4:24 PM PDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Agreed

I don’t think the A’s are worse today than they were yesterday.

Might as well Jump! - Van Halen

by sprtsnwyn on Jul 17, 2008 4:27 PM PDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Disagree

I have no problem with the trade (from what I know of it thus far), but for 2008 alone, and Joe’s struggles notwithstanding, this makes the A’s worse this year. Better next year, maybe, but worse this year. Not that they were gonna make the postseason anyway.

Those were the reasons and that was New York, we were running for the money and the flesh.

by FreeSeatUpgrade on Jul 17, 2008 4:31 PM PDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Yep

That pretty much sums it up for me too.

"May a nit suck Cajun geese?" wonders Red. No, we see gnu Jack Cust in a yam.

by andeux on Jul 17, 2008 4:34 PM PDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Unless someone like Gio, unseen yet by the league,

could replicate Blanton’s performance going forward – which probably means a 4.00-4.50 ERA and 6+ IP/start.

I like Cindi. A. She never pretends to know more than she does. B. She has unbridled enthusiasm for her "Hotties," and isn't afraid to show it. -IM4Oakgal

by Nico on Jul 17, 2008 4:34 PM PDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

better than

his no-hitter?

In May for you ingrates – 6 innings.

still Swish Fan #1.

by ChrisCEIT on Jul 17, 2008 10:56 PM PDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

You could possibly claim

a variance vs expected value trade-off in the Harden deal, with the possibility Murton close to equaling on offense what Gallagher gives away (in expected value, given Harden’s injury woes) as a pitcher. If Harden got injured, that trade COULD actually have made us better this year. No chance any of these guys add anything this year.

I guess this is based on the idea that I don’t think Gio is ready yet and Blanton is better than Braden. IPs are an important, under-valued stat. You could argue those players readiness, and I do hope I’ll be proven wrong.

by Mark Borgschulte on Jul 17, 2008 4:29 PM PDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Any pitcher we call up will prob be as good if not better

than Blanton. Man dont you people get it yet? Trading one players isnt a white flag.

When will then be now? Soon.

by Syphon on Jul 17, 2008 4:22 PM PDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

How about trading three?

"You may glory in a team triumphant, but you fall in love with a team in defeat."--The Boys of Summer

by alox on Jul 17, 2008 4:53 PM PDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Don't you get it yet?

It’s like trading one, only three times.

I like Cindi. A. She never pretends to know more than she does. B. She has unbridled enthusiasm for her "Hotties," and isn't afraid to show it. -IM4Oakgal

by Nico on Jul 17, 2008 4:54 PM PDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   1 recs

in the case of blanton

it is really like trading three…. :X

"Twenty minutes," says Jack Sr. "Thank god for Billy Beane."

by ST on Jul 17, 2008 5:16 PM PDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

in-n-out

at least Cardenas is a top 100 prospect and the Phils top. Aside from that I hope we can get by or get a lot for Street, who undoubtably is next.

It's just more exciting with Billy Beane running the team.

by ru155 on Jul 17, 2008 4:22 PM PDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Where do you guys place

Cardenas in term of A’s hitting prospects? Below or above Weeks?

by FirebatM3 on Jul 17, 2008 4:24 PM PDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Above, for sure

He has a track record in pro ball (and a good one at that). And Weeks isn’t a guy with knockout scouting reports either.

Your 2008 Athletics: It's Nothing Personal.

by PaulThomas on Jul 17, 2008 4:38 PM PDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

I'm a little nervous about Weeks

I hope he turns out to be worth the #1 pick, and doesn’t turn out to be more…Penningtonny.

I like Cindi. A. She never pretends to know more than she does. B. She has unbridled enthusiasm for her "Hotties," and isn't afraid to show it. -IM4Oakgal

by Nico on Jul 17, 2008 4:41 PM PDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

so is he the best

position prospect in the A’s organization right now?

by FirebatM3 on Jul 17, 2008 4:47 PM PDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

the video of Cardenas is not encouraging

he runs kind of funny : – }


You have to include smiley faces - Poppy
;- ) :- ) :-O : -> : -] : -}

by micdog2001 on Jul 17, 2008 4:39 PM PDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

It's really helpful, though, to see video

of him taking two pitches.

I like Cindi. A. She never pretends to know more than she does. B. She has unbridled enthusiasm for her "Hotties," and isn't afraid to show it. -IM4Oakgal

by Nico on Jul 17, 2008 4:42 PM PDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Ron Cey lives!

"the A's need more quality preembreetive pitching" ~monkeyball

by OptimistPrime on Jul 17, 2008 6:29 PM PDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Initial reaction is favoring the A's on this trade

Sickels lists the Phillies top 20 here. This trade is awesome for the A’s even if we just get Cardenas straight up. The fact that we get their #3 prospect as well is amazing. Seems like Spencer is just a throw in, maybe a 5th outfielder at best

by GusanoQuemador on Jul 17, 2008 4:27 PM PDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

TBD?!

That guy sucks.

"May a nit suck Cajun geese?" wonders Red. No, we see gnu Jack Cust in a yam.

by andeux on Jul 17, 2008 4:31 PM PDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Or, if it stands for

“To Be Devoured,” roughly the same.

I like Cindi. A. She never pretends to know more than she does. B. She has unbridled enthusiasm for her "Hotties," and isn't afraid to show it. -IM4Oakgal

by Nico on Jul 17, 2008 5:18 PM PDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Soon

“To be Dealt” for prospects

Green Hulk Fists

by oaklandSMASH on Jul 17, 2008 6:10 PM PDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Gio pitched Monday for the Rivercats,

so if he were the callup they could start either Smith or Gallagher Friday and Gio Saturday. I know DiNardo, Meyer, and Saarloos would all be available to pitch tomorrow because Sacramento hasn’t played since Monday.

I like Cindi. A. She never pretends to know more than she does. B. She has unbridled enthusiasm for her "Hotties," and isn't afraid to show it. -IM4Oakgal

by Nico on Jul 17, 2008 4:36 PM PDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Saarloos

My prediction. Braden is a reliever at heart. Meyer hasn’t put together enough good starts. Gio isn’t ready yet. Saarloos is a veteran who pitched adequately for the A’s a couple years back, and did well in his short call-up earlier this year. He can probably match what Blanton would have done for the rest of the year. And if he sucks for a handful of starts, there’s always DiNardo. You can do the ordering the other way as well, but I think Saarloos has the higher upside (which isn’t much). The only way it matters is if somehow the A’s continue to compete for the rest of the year.

Just watch: Frank Thomas comes back, swinging well; Eric Chavez recovers and doesn’t need surgery; and then Mike Sweeney finds he can actually still play.

Okay, whatever.

by richwol1 on Jul 17, 2008 7:30 PM PDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

You lost me at

“He might not be worse than DiNardo!”

I like Cindi. A. She never pretends to know more than she does. B. She has unbridled enthusiasm for her "Hotties," and isn't afraid to show it. -IM4Oakgal

by Nico on Jul 17, 2008 7:40 PM PDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Pure off- topic speculation: I think Thomas

will come back and be productive. He’s sandbagging right now, reserving himself for the latter half of the season, and no one in mgt really cares because the A’s aren’t really paying him anything. Chavez = Mark Mulder. Mike Sweeney? I haven’t seen enough to have an opinion.

Okay, whatever, +1.

by somebodyelse on Jul 17, 2008 7:42 PM PDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Money Ball guys

So this should pretty much do it for the main guys from the Money Ball draft.

Jeremy S Brown – Retired
John C Mccurdy – M.I.A.
Joseph M Blanton – Traded
Nicholas T Swisher – Traded
Stephen H Obenchain – M.I.A.
Benjamin J Fritz – Detroit Minor Leagues
Mark Teahen – Starting in K.C

"This was no boating accident"

by crd04us on Jul 17, 2008 4:28 PM PDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Wonder if this completely kills

Michael Lewis’ plans for Underdogs.

by Blez on Jul 17, 2008 5:00 PM PDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

it was not the most well thought out idea for a book

he should have just done it on the farm system, or on the trades of top players for prospects (starting with hudson-mulder).

A's v Giants "is kind of like the difference between going to see the Ramones and going to see the Bee Gees. A's fans will go see the Ramones." -BB 07/27/05

by xbhaskarx on Jul 18, 2008 2:15 AM PDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

he should have remora'ed himself to an old-school GM, like Gillick

I told them 'My game is like a blog.' Because I don't know what a blog is, but it don't sound good. @('.')@

by monkeyball on Jul 18, 2008 10:02 AM PDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

True that.

The opposite of “Walker”.

"Dispatch knuckleheadedness with Bond-like aplomb." –74mk

by iglew on Jul 17, 2008 7:44 PM PDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

I want to see Outman marry Striker's sister

and then their kids would be named Striker-Outman. That would be awesome.

There's no crying in baseball!

by gigglingone on Jul 18, 2008 8:41 AM PDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Stiker?

"Camelot sure fell apart, didn't it?"-Steve McCatty

by 5Aces on Jul 18, 2008 10:13 AM PDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Ohhhh!

There’s a sale at Penny’s!!!

by TempletonPeck on Jul 18, 2008 2:31 PM PDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

If I get started down this road

I will be here all night replying to myself, but can’t pass up at least one…

“And Leon’s getting LARRRRGERR!”

"Camelot sure fell apart, didn't it?"-Steve McCatty

by 5Aces on Jul 18, 2008 3:17 PM PDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

C'mon-

This is a sell-high on Blanton, whose numbers this year are terrible.

Getting the Phils #2 and #3 prospects is great for re-stocking the farm system. It also gives BB more flexibility on the Ellis deal, and more chips to trade next year when the A’s are definite buyers.

by Cochran86 on Jul 17, 2008 4:29 PM PDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

We didn't sell high on Blanton,

but the Phillies were very likely high when they elected to trade value for him.

I like Cindi. A. She never pretends to know more than she does. B. She has unbridled enthusiasm for her "Hotties," and isn't afraid to show it. -IM4Oakgal

by Nico on Jul 17, 2008 4:37 PM PDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Is Street next?

Move Ziggy to closer, pick up 3 young studs?

by Cochran86 on Jul 17, 2008 4:30 PM PDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

I hope so.

If we can get 3 young studs for Street I’d wet my pants.

by Mark Borgschulte on Jul 17, 2008 4:41 PM PDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

People around here sure wet their pants a lot

Whoops, excuse me a moment…

I like Cindi. A. She never pretends to know more than she does. B. She has unbridled enthusiasm for her "Hotties," and isn't afraid to show it. -IM4Oakgal

by Nico on Jul 17, 2008 4:42 PM PDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

aaaah watch it

clearly 98 ft of space is not enough

by oakinboston on Jul 17, 2008 5:13 PM PDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

I've about had it up to here with shart discrimination

Ryan Sweeney: I probably irrationally embraced him before you did.

by Joey C. on Jul 17, 2008 6:26 PM PDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Liberate the shart

don’t hold back!

Green Hulk Fists

by oaklandSMASH on Jul 17, 2008 6:30 PM PDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

A shart on the mound

would certainly be grounds for a pitching/ underwear change.

by somebodyelse on Jul 17, 2008 10:47 PM PDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

I have an awesome custom Huston St. street sign.

It will have a dusty retirement by the end of the month, I guess.

"This must be heaven," he says.
"No. It's Oakland."

by Kyli on Jul 17, 2008 4:44 PM PDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

I think Ziggy is too valuable

coming in with guys on base and inducing ground balls to close…..I think Embree for now and Devine when he returns. I like Zig in the role he has…..

Bring back Hammer.

by OaktownPower on Jul 17, 2008 4:54 PM PDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Embree...That should be popular with AN

Maybe Foulke, when he comes back!

Is Big Bill Taylor real busy these days?

I like Cindi. A. She never pretends to know more than she does. B. She has unbridled enthusiasm for her "Hotties," and isn't afraid to show it. -IM4Oakgal

by Nico on Jul 17, 2008 4:55 PM PDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

I'm thinking Foulke may not stir up quite the interest

we’re looking for in a deal.

I like Cindi. A. She never pretends to know more than she does. B. She has unbridled enthusiasm for her "Hotties," and isn't afraid to show it. -IM4Oakgal

by Nico on Jul 17, 2008 4:57 PM PDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

12 maple bats?

"This must be heaven," he says.
"No. It's Oakland."

by Kyli on Jul 17, 2008 5:05 PM PDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Foulke cracks more often

I like Cindi. A. She never pretends to know more than she does. B. She has unbridled enthusiasm for her "Hotties," and isn't afraid to show it. -IM4Oakgal

by Nico on Jul 17, 2008 5:08 PM PDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

But Foulke has actually been one of the A's better pitchers this year

When he’s healthy.

http://bocropleasestopswingingatbadpitches.blogspot.com/

by thejd44 on Jul 18, 2008 2:09 AM PDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

That is nonsense

Foulke has been terrible by every measure except ERA, and his ERA is not even that great. He hasn’t been good since 2004 and he hasn’t been good this year!!! Why on earth would anyone think this clown is a good reliever? And have you watched him pitch? I would take Embree 7 days a week over Foulke. I would also take Blevins and whoever else might replace Foulke in his notional return.

The A's colors are green and gold.

by mikeA on Jul 18, 2008 2:33 AM PDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

wait, I'm a little confused...

Sooo, you DO think he’s good? Or you don’t? I couldn’t quite tell from your vague post.

by TempletonPeck on Jul 18, 2008 2:34 PM PDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

How about Big Bill Haywood?

At least he would ease concerns that Beane keeps trading players because he has disdain for the working class.

Your 2008 Athletics: It's Nothing Personal.

by PaulThomas on Jul 17, 2008 5:39 PM PDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

I dunno -- Haywood's looked a little wobbly this season

"And Julio Franco is batting right-handed!" -- Wayne Hagin, A's radio play-by-play, mid-80s

by Nick on Jul 17, 2008 5:41 PM PDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs



I told them 'My game is like a blog.' Because I don't know what a blog is, but it don't sound good. @('.')@

by monkeyball on Jul 17, 2008 5:52 PM PDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Awesome

command of US labor history

by branch rickey on Jul 17, 2008 7:35 PM PDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Agreed. Ziggy's awesome in his role and is needed there.

I’d be very curious to see Devine get a chance when (if?) he is among the moving again.

"This must be heaven," he says.
"No. It's Oakland."

by Kyli on Jul 17, 2008 5:05 PM PDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Im really Scared now.......

that Ellis is gone. This kid was ranked the 2nd best 2nd base prospect in baseball. Hopefully we will get good return for the best fielding 2nd basemen in the league and my fav in Ellis.

OakFoSho

S&BP > Mile High Mules ............ Like Sharks? http://mvn.com/nhl-sharks/

by 0akFoSho on Jul 17, 2008 4:31 PM PDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Good Bye Mark Ellis

You can’t replace his defense but at least Billly is addressing the offensive problems. Hopefully Ellis can get the Gold Glove with a team that gets more air time on SportsCenter. I root for most ex-A’s to get the recognition they deserve on a more popular team.

"Some people have asked me whether or not Rickey Henderson belonged in the Hall of Fame. I've replied "if you could somehow split him in two, you'd have two Hall of Famers"" - Author Bill James in The Bill James Handbook (2008)

by rollie_fingers_moustache on Jul 17, 2008 4:31 PM PDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

aw crap

I just realized that we don’t play today. I’ve been waiting all afternoon for the game to start….

There's no crying in baseball!

by gigglingone on Jul 17, 2008 4:31 PM PDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Yeah

I wrote about Zebulon to pass the time, but you knew that already.

Green Hulk Fists

by oaklandSMASH on Jul 17, 2008 6:32 PM PDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Before crediting Beane..

..I’d hedge a bet that Forst is the one creating all these deals, with Billy Boy giving him the final O K.

by Pucking Insane on Jul 17, 2008 4:31 PM PDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

This line is really getting tiresome

1. Who the f**k cares? If it was Farhan frigging Zaidi, would it make a difference? I’m sure 50 people in the org had a hand in creating this.

2. Believe it or not, most people who favor Beane’s approach do not do so out of an idolatric (is that a word?) worship of the guy. They do it because he creates teams that win frigging baseball games.

Your 2008 Athletics: It's Nothing Personal.

by PaulThomas on Jul 17, 2008 4:45 PM PDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

No he doesn't - he just creates Forst.

I like Cindi. A. She never pretends to know more than she does. B. She has unbridled enthusiasm for her "Hotties," and isn't afraid to show it. -IM4Oakgal

by Nico on Jul 17, 2008 4:46 PM PDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Oh, and I forgot #3

3. You have no actual clue whether you’re right, so, eh, howzabout losing the smug tone, hm?

Your 2008 Athletics: It's Nothing Personal.

by PaulThomas on Jul 17, 2008 4:48 PM PDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

You serious?

One could say the same on pretty much anything you write.

I am right, by the way. I’m sorry you are unable to understand why.

by Pucking Insane on Jul 17, 2008 5:49 PM PDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Couldn't just get by with two demeaning quotes

just had to drop the third. I’m shocked.

The first rule of Oakland is - you do not talk about injuries. The second rule of Oakland is - you DO NOT talk about injuries." - Larry Davis

by norcalfan on Jul 17, 2008 9:24 PM PDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

2 consecutive comments criticizing me?

Might I suggest you… I don’t know… find some better way to spend your life?

Your 2008 Athletics: It's Nothing Personal.

by PaulThomas on Jul 17, 2008 9:36 PM PDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

I have nothing informative to add about trades & prospects,

but I can suggest that you might have wanted “idolatrous?”

There's no textbook for how to treat a geriatric tapir.

by Poppy on Jul 17, 2008 4:50 PM PDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Thank you

I love this website.

Your 2008 Athletics: It's Nothing Personal.

by PaulThomas on Jul 17, 2008 4:50 PM PDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

You're welcome.

Now I’m off to find unicorn butt pictures.

There's no textbook for how to treat a geriatric tapir.

by Poppy on Jul 17, 2008 4:51 PM PDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

I'll refrain from comment

I like Cindi. A. She never pretends to know more than she does. B. She has unbridled enthusiasm for her "Hotties," and isn't afraid to show it. -IM4Oakgal

by Nico on Jul 17, 2008 4:53 PM PDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Unicorn and butt juxtaposed make me uncomfortable

When you have a chance to get a guy like Sean Gallagher, you take it!

by WaddellCanseco on Jul 17, 2008 7:08 PM PDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

You don't want to know how

unicorn and butt make me uncomfortable.

I like Cindi. A. She never pretends to know more than she does. B. She has unbridled enthusiasm for her "Hotties," and isn't afraid to show it. -IM4Oakgal

by Nico on Jul 17, 2008 7:09 PM PDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

still ranks beneath

straight razor and male genitalia. C’mon, every man shudders involutarily just with the words, and then….the image? !!!!!!!!!!! Bejeeebusss!

"I never predict anything, and I never will." Paul Gascoigne, English footballer

by One won lost won on Jul 17, 2008 8:12 PM PDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

apparently, Candice Cabbil never got a chance to say ...

Idolatrell

I told them 'My game is like a blog.' Because I don't know what a blog is, but it don't sound good. @('.')@

by monkeyball on Jul 17, 2008 5:06 PM PDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

You do know how a trade is completed, right?

If you do, you would not have wasted your time typing exhibit numero uno.

As for the second bullet, the operative word ‘DUH’ comes to mind.

by Pucking Insane on Jul 17, 2008 5:51 PM PDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Alright

How about you tell us what the point of your original comment was then. Since as far as I can tell, it was just “Hey, let me make stuff up so that I sound better informed than everyone else!”

Your 2008 Athletics: It's Nothing Personal.

by PaulThomas on Jul 17, 2008 5:54 PM PDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

My intent

was to credit Forst, not disparage Beane. The A’s front office is in good hands, and I like that.

by Pucking Insane on Jul 17, 2008 6:01 PM PDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

I think it's true that Forst is heavily involved in trade deals.

However, several reports have documented that it was Billy who was on the phone with Hendry working out the details of the Harden-Gallagher trade.

"Dispatch knuckleheadedness with Bond-like aplomb." –74mk

by iglew on Jul 17, 2008 7:47 PM PDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

and we all know

that reports are always entirely accurate.

by TempletonPeck on Jul 18, 2008 2:39 PM PDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Miss something

Did Ellis get traded to or is everyone assuming he is gone.

"This was no boating accident"

by crd04us on Jul 17, 2008 4:33 PM PDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

assuming cause one of these kids .....

was the #2 ranked 2nd basemen in baseball, for prospects that is.

S&BP > Mile High Mules ............ Like Sharks? http://mvn.com/nhl-sharks/

by 0akFoSho on Jul 17, 2008 4:34 PM PDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Assumption

based on drafting a 2B and trading for 2 more in the past 2 weeks.

"Camelot sure fell apart, didn't it?"-Steve McCatty

by 5Aces on Jul 17, 2008 4:34 PM PDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

he hasn't signed an extension

and speculation is that it would be too expensive to keep him.

HELMET: Sandurz, what's going on?
SANDURZ: It's Mega Maid. She's gone from suck to
blow!

by SoCalA'sFan on Jul 17, 2008 4:34 PM PDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Maybe Beane wants to put pressure on Ellis

to sign cheaper by saying, “We’re prepared to move forward without you.” If Ellis signs, these guys are excellent trade chips anyway.

I like Cindi. A. She never pretends to know more than she does. B. She has unbridled enthusiasm for her "Hotties," and isn't afraid to show it. -IM4Oakgal

by Nico on Jul 17, 2008 4:38 PM PDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Think Foulke

I don’t think Billy intends to make the same mistake twice. He probably expects to sign Ellis but wants to be ready just in case. There was no back up plan for Foulke hence Arthur Rhodes.

by Donner on Jul 17, 2008 6:06 PM PDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Good point - Billy was turned down

by Foulke and then Guardado and then Hawkins, and was looking at fearing Mecir in the 9th before settling for Rhodes out of desperation. That won’t happen with Ellis if they talk contract after the season.

I like Cindi. A. She never pretends to know more than she does. B. She has unbridled enthusiasm for her "Hotties," and isn't afraid to show it. -IM4Oakgal

by Nico on Jul 17, 2008 6:58 PM PDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

We were gonna

have Every Day Eddie instead of TARE? I did not know that. Weird, wild stuff.

I’d still rather have Street on my team than K-Rod, just because I hate douchebags. -Taj Adib

by Leopold Bloom on Jul 17, 2008 8:12 PM PDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

I think EDE was first choice post-Foulke,

and the A’s thought he would sign, if offered a contract, since he’s from Stockton. Went for the rain in Seattle – rained money too, I hear.

I like Cindi. A. She never pretends to know more than she does. B. She has unbridled enthusiasm for her "Hotties," and isn't afraid to show it. -IM4Oakgal

by Nico on Jul 17, 2008 8:16 PM PDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

I thought we missed out on Hawkins because we were waiting on Foulke?`

During the two+ weeks of “oh, I’ll sign… maybe I won’t…”

"This must be heaven," he says.
"No. It's Oakland."

by Kyli on Jul 18, 2008 8:20 AM PDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

agreed

That is a good point. That was not a fun situation for any of us.

by TempletonPeck on Jul 18, 2008 2:41 PM PDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Here's a pet theory of mine

In order of second base priority:

1. Sign Ellis to a 2 (or max 3) year deal to see which of our very young 2B is the future
2. Let Ellis go (type-A free agent), trade for a year of Brian Roberts (which shouldn’t cost too much considering the haul from losing Ellis). BR is signed for $8M next year.
3. Let Ellis go and patch with Patterson and hope all the ground balls go right at him.

by nevermoor on Jul 17, 2008 8:16 PM PDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Wait, speculation by whom?

Speculation by me is that it wouldn’t be anything of the sort.

Your 2008 Athletics: It's Nothing Personal.

by PaulThomas on Jul 17, 2008 4:41 PM PDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Ellis

I would still try and sign him. Those guys are 2-3 years away!

"This was no boating accident"

by crd04us on Jul 17, 2008 4:36 PM PDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Don't think so....

The A’s are rebuilding and despite the suprising start the A’s have commited to 2009 or 2010. I am glad they are not settling for a first round exit but instead looking to win it all in a couple of years. Ah the life of an A’s fan, always reaching for the future.

"Some people have asked me whether or not Rickey Henderson belonged in the Hall of Fame. I've replied "if you could somehow split him in two, you'd have two Hall of Famers"" - Author Bill James in The Bill James Handbook (2008)

by rollie_fingers_moustache on Jul 17, 2008 4:38 PM PDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Petit

Maybe he will fill in for a year.

"This was no boating accident"

by crd04us on Jul 17, 2008 4:40 PM PDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

so, does this make Duke more, or less, likely to be traded?

I told them 'My game is like a blog.' Because I don't know what a blog is, but it don't sound good. @('.')@

by monkeyball on Jul 17, 2008 4:40 PM PDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

hopefully less

HELMET: Sandurz, what's going on?
SANDURZ: It's Mega Maid. She's gone from suck to
blow!

by SoCalA'sFan on Jul 17, 2008 4:42 PM PDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

I would think it makes it less likely

I would never say never with this team. But I think it would put too much of a strain on the current rotation to movre Duke during the season.

Even if Beane doesn’t expect to contend this season, I’m not sure he would want to stretch the rotation that thin.

by DiegoAsFan on Jul 17, 2008 4:42 PM PDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Hopefully

This gives them a little more room to extend Duke for a few more years, he is the real deal and would be important in those ‘09 or ‘10 plans.

"Some people have asked me whether or not Rickey Henderson belonged in the Hall of Fame. I've replied "if you could somehow split him in two, you'd have two Hall of Famers"" - Author Bill James in The Bill James Handbook (2008)

by rollie_fingers_moustache on Jul 17, 2008 4:44 PM PDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Unlikely.

Realistically, Billy’s not going to keep Duke.

There’s no evidence other than hope that Duke will be any different than any other pitcher with the A’s—AKA, gone.

"This must be heaven," he says.
"No. It's Oakland."

by Kyli on Jul 17, 2008 4:47 PM PDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

The only thing I can come up with

is he won’t command a deal like Zito’s on the open market because he’s still sort of an unknown.

Might as well Jump! - Van Halen

by sprtsnwyn on Jul 17, 2008 4:50 PM PDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

The only other thing I could say

is that it seems like we usually have at least one guy in the rotation with a bit of experience. Now while next year most everyone will have at least a year, Billy may think that Duke’s additional bullpen time gives him that extra experience that justifies an extra year.

I’ll be the first to admit that’s pretty thin reasoning, but I am clinging to it with both hands.

"Camelot sure fell apart, didn't it?"-Steve McCatty

by 5Aces on Jul 17, 2008 4:54 PM PDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Gallagher, Smith, Eveland, Gio, Simmons (or whatever)

won’t win in 2009. Duke stays.

I like Cindi. A. She never pretends to know more than she does. B. She has unbridled enthusiasm for her "Hotties," and isn't afraid to show it. -IM4Oakgal

by Nico on Jul 17, 2008 4:57 PM PDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Dont count out a Sabathia

Bay Area reunion. Droops.

"Their batters are patient to the point that it's annoying." -Ryan Franklin

by Helloooo 1st on Jul 18, 2008 1:58 AM PDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

and then drools

"Their batters are patient to the point that it's annoying." -Ryan Franklin

by Helloooo 1st on Jul 18, 2008 1:59 AM PDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

since Duke is an unknow maybe we can resign now on the cheap(er).


You have to include smiley faces - Poppy
;- ) :- ) :-O : -> : -] : -}

by micdog2001 on Jul 17, 2008 4:59 PM PDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Unknown as a starter,

but not as a pitcher. He’s got enough seasoning that I think it’s optimistic to see him as cheap.

"This must be heaven," he says.
"No. It's Oakland."

by Kyli on Jul 17, 2008 5:08 PM PDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

He won't get a deal like Zito's, but still--

He’s good pitching, especially with the ERA he has. And he’s proven himself as a versatile reliever, if nothing else, making him less of an unknown. He’s in a good position to be overpaid.

I wish we’d be the ones to do it, but I doubt it. :( :(

"This must be heaven," he says.
"No. It's Oakland."

by Kyli on Jul 17, 2008 5:07 PM PDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

a slight knock against Duke would be he isn't a flame thrower.

a trait that has more perceived value. I think the A’s should re-sign him now before he has a great 2nd half that really shoots his value up.


You have to include smiley faces - Poppy
;- ) :- ) :-O : -> : -] : -}

by micdog2001 on Jul 17, 2008 5:12 PM PDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

His chronic back issues may also be a knock

but honestly, with the way he’s pitching this season, I would be incredibly surprised if there wasn’t a GM willing to go Sabean on him.

"This must be heaven," he says.
"No. It's Oakland."

by Kyli on Jul 17, 2008 5:16 PM PDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

But he's a great junk-baller...

...which is why he’s effective and fun to watch. Hope they keep him around.

by Technotofu on Jul 17, 2008 6:40 PM PDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Would love it!

if that were to happen but Beane is probably gonna wait till the season is over. Either way, Duke absolutely deserves at least a three year deal. And…...........who will be the starter tomorrow? I think it will be G-Unit , then Gallagher, then Duke on Sunday. Boy, i would love to see Gio come up and get a shot at the the rotation now…......would be very cool.

by mrod on Jul 17, 2008 7:11 PM PDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Debut at Yankee Stadium?

For an inconsistent 22-year old, I’m not sure that’s the wisest debut. Let him open at the Coliseum, where the conditions are more forgiving and A-Rod rarely bats.

I like Cindi. A. She never pretends to know more than she does. B. She has unbridled enthusiasm for her "Hotties," and isn't afraid to show it. -IM4Oakgal

by Nico on Jul 17, 2008 7:16 PM PDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Trouble is, he might -

when Suzuki sets up on the outside corner. I suppose, though, that they could just set up the rotation:

Smith
Gallagher
Duchscherer
Eveland/Gio
Gio/Eveland

and he’d pitch in Tampa Bay against Sonnanstine or E. Jackson.

I like Cindi. A. She never pretends to know more than she does. B. She has unbridled enthusiasm for her "Hotties," and isn't afraid to show it. -IM4Oakgal

by Nico on Jul 17, 2008 7:27 PM PDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

plus then he could make his debut in his home-state of Florida

might be a little more comfy
(then again could be more nervous)

witty remark

by dtownmbrown on Jul 17, 2008 11:30 PM PDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Depends if he can change his last name to 'Chavez'.

"This must be heaven," he says.
"No. It's Oakland."

by Kyli on Jul 17, 2008 4:48 PM PDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

I think it makes him more likely

Beane is finishing what he started in terms of rebuilding. Street will be gone too. Maybe Duke AND Street in one deal.

The A’s clearly are building for a dynasty-type team by stocking up on some of the best prospects in baseball.

by Blez on Jul 17, 2008 5:05 PM PDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

I can't see him NOT trading Street

Duke, I just don’t know.

I told them 'My game is like a blog.' Because I don't know what a blog is, but it don't sound good. @('.')@

by monkeyball on Jul 17, 2008 5:07 PM PDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

In Beane's tenure, he's never done something this drastic

over such a short period of time that I can remember. I could be wrong, but he’s built the A’s minor league system into the top three if not the top one in baseball.

by Blez on Jul 17, 2008 5:27 PM PDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

It's easy to imagine Duke, Ellis, Crosby and Street gone by August

Beane would have to get back an innings eating kind of pitcher though….you think Blanton is available?

When you have a chance to get a guy like Sean Gallagher, you take it!

by WaddellCanseco on Jul 17, 2008 7:11 PM PDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   1 recs

An innings-eater won't do any good

if we can’t protect a 9th inning lead – we should think about getting Street.

I like Cindi. A. She never pretends to know more than she does. B. She has unbridled enthusiasm for her "Hotties," and isn't afraid to show it. -IM4Oakgal

by Nico on Jul 17, 2008 7:17 PM PDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

I was going to trade him for Blanton

When you have a chance to get a guy like Sean Gallagher, you take it!

by WaddellCanseco on Jul 17, 2008 7:49 PM PDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

If Duke AND Street are traded,

the Oakland pitcher with the longest tenure on the team will be …. damn, I don’t even know. Embree??

"Dispatch knuckleheadedness with Bond-like aplomb." –74mk

by iglew on Jul 17, 2008 7:53 PM PDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Foulke, by a technicality?

Eh, by next week it will probably be Gallagher.

I like Cindi. A. She never pretends to know more than she does. B. She has unbridled enthusiasm for her "Hotties," and isn't afraid to show it. -IM4Oakgal

by Nico on Jul 17, 2008 8:17 PM PDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Billy hates unicorns.

His desire to get rid of Ellis saddens me. Especially since none of his pile o’ 2B guys project to have Super Awesome Defense of Sparklyness. Which I feel is a fucking requirement to wear his white shoes.

"This must be heaven," he says.
"No. It's Oakland."

by Kyli on Jul 17, 2008 4:46 PM PDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Damn

Tell us how you really feel :}

"This was no boating accident"

by crd04us on Jul 17, 2008 4:48 PM PDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

It's blood keeps him alive

but only with a shell of a life…

Green Hulk Fists

by oaklandSMASH on Jul 17, 2008 6:46 PM PDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

It's only cause he split his

soul seven times. Horcruxes! As if…whata maroon…

I’d still rather have Street on my team than K-Rod, just because I hate douchebags. -Taj Adib

by Leopold Bloom on Jul 17, 2008 8:14 PM PDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Is he going to trade a veteran player and a horcrux

for a handful of Hogwarts prospects?

I heard talent coming out of Hufflepuff is underrated.

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by oaklandSMASH on Jul 17, 2008 8:16 PM PDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

They're all spoiled by Quidditch

The worst-conceived sport in fantasy book history (which, by the way, is saying a LOT)

by nevermoor on Jul 17, 2008 8:18 PM PDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

+1

It’s easier to believe in flying brooms than it is to believe such an absurd set of rules would ever persist for a spectator sport.

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by iglew on Jul 17, 2008 8:28 PM PDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

I like this deal but . . .

I can barey recgonize thise team anymore. Watching the All-Star game made me realize that rooting for the A’s means rooting for a team and not individual players. I knew that before but it stuck out to me a lot more than before.

someone asked me the other day who my favorite Oakland A was and I couldn’t for the life of me think of who it would be. Cust? Ellis? Duke?


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by micdog2001 on Jul 17, 2008 4:49 PM PDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Correct answer: Trevor Cahill

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by PaulThomas on Jul 17, 2008 4:49 PM PDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Youe would have accepted Gio Gonzalez

as well. LoL.

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by Syphon on Jul 17, 2008 4:50 PM PDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

would Rickey also be acceptable?

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by 5Aces on Jul 17, 2008 4:55 PM PDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Clearly Ellis for the moment. I guess Chavez if he ever comes back.

When you have a chance to get a guy like Sean Gallagher, you take it!

by WaddellCanseco on Jul 17, 2008 7:12 PM PDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Cahill's value is peaking

Maybe Beane should trade him for prospects.

by richwol1 on Jul 17, 2008 7:38 PM PDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Trade Fremont for Gilroy!

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by Nico on Jul 17, 2008 7:39 PM PDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Trade Fremont for Las Vegas

Oh, wait. That’s during the off-season.

by richwol1 on Jul 17, 2008 7:40 PM PDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

If Concord ( as in "conquered")

changed the name of the city to “Conquerer” then the “Conquerer Athletics” might aachieve “sick” status.

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by One won lost won on Jul 17, 2008 8:19 PM PDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

It's not impossible for a player's value to peak in the minors...

You could make a decent argument that Vince Mazzaro’s value is peaking right now.

Cahill? Uh, nope.

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by PaulThomas on Jul 17, 2008 7:40 PM PDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Seriously

A guy like Mazzaro would be so much more valuable if the A’s were buying instead of selling. Guys like him (by that I mean the guys who have the highest value in the minors, only an assumption for the purpose of making a point with Mazzaro) are the guys you want to use to acquire major league-ready talent. The A’s aren’t really in that mode, and by the time they are, Mazzaro may have shown himself to be a fluke.

You never see AA Prospect for AA Prospect type deals. I actually sorta wonder why this is.

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by thejd44 on Jul 18, 2008 2:21 AM PDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

In other words...

... rooting for laundry? Heh.

MJB

by MJB on Jul 17, 2008 4:56 PM PDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

I was rooting for laundry just a little while ago

Seriously, I was like, “Spin! Spin! ... YES!!!! Way to go!!!! Woo hoo!!!!”

It’s slow around here when the A’s aren’t playing.

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by Nico on Jul 17, 2008 4:58 PM PDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

This is my problem:

we can’t root for the players, because they’re being traded. We can’t root for laundry, because of the whole Fremont issue—the ‘Oakland’ on the road greys isn’t something we can rely on.

We’re rooting for some sort of abstract, undefined ‘thing’.

So that is why I drink.

"This must be heaven," he says.
"No. It's Oakland."

by Kyli on Jul 17, 2008 5:12 PM PDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

I root for whoever's wearing the laundry

Barry Bonds would not be among them, however.

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by Flashfire on Jul 17, 2008 5:59 PM PDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

I continue to root for players when they are naked.

I especially continue to root for players when they are naked.

Keith Foulke, as always, excepted.

"This must be heaven," he says.
"No. It's Oakland."

by Kyli on Jul 17, 2008 10:05 PM PDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Fuck.

Children, until we have taught them better, will be perfectly happy with a seasonal round of games in which conkers succeeds hopscotch.

by salb918 on Jul 17, 2008 4:51 PM PDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Sometimes even when done wrong

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by DMOAS on Jul 17, 2008 8:34 PM PDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Why? Looks like a good deal to me, from what I can tell so far

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by Nico on Jul 17, 2008 4:52 PM PDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs