Street or Blanton to Philly Rumors

by johnjahafanclub on Jul 17, 2008 8:18 AM PDT

http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/article.cgi?f=/c/a/2008/07/16/SPHC11PNK3.DTL

" The Harden deal increases the chances that the A's could make more moves before July 31, with Street and starter Joe Blanton potentially on the block. Rumors about Blanton and Philadelphia gained speed Tuesday, and there were also rumblings that teams have interest in Duchscherer. There's still a chance, even with Oakland six games behind the Angels in the AL West, that the A's will move to pick up a big right-handed bat, a need they have this year and beyond."

What does everyone make of this?

Philly has pat burrell but no way are they trading him slash no way can we afford his salary. Is beane going for jayson werth? He seems kind of old at 29 and not a good power bat, just a mediocre one, but good obp.

Not many righty power prospects in philly's system. Dominic brown is a lefty. I'd be stoked on getting adrian cardenas, a future mark ellis replacement, but he bats lefty. Lou Marson has good obp but is a catcher which we don't really need.

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I wouldn't be surprised if the A's got....

Pedro Feliz and So Taguchi! Bwa ha ha ha!

A's, baby!

by Coach Cleats on Jul 17, 2008 8:24 AM PDT 0 recs

I've a request

for bbg, nico et al: Every week, put up a rosterbation diary. Anyone who wants to rosterbate can do so in that thread.

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by rfloh on Jul 17, 2008 8:50 AM PDT 0 recs

I suggest we let this site work like a free-market

If people didn’t want to rosterbate we wouldn’t see so many fanpost on it. The times that this site is most popular is not after sweeping a big opponent, but rather when we make a trade… even if it’s not what you come here for.

by GeorgiaBoy on Jul 17, 2008 9:05 AM PDT up 0 recs

Enjoy your multitudes of Rich Harden diaries then.

As for the free market, the “problem” is that your example doesn’t work like a free market. In a real free market, if enough people dislike the product, and disdain it, the producer either has to produce a new product, or go bankrupt.

On AN, there’s no way to do that. Mockery and disdain won’t cause a bad diary to be eradicated. The only way to “get rid” of a bad diary is for other posters to post newer diaries that bury that bad diary.

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by rfloh on Jul 17, 2008 9:27 AM PDT up 0 recs

Have you tried that?

Why not write an interesting fanpost on an original idea? Seems more constructive than complaining about fanposts you don’t like, no?

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by Nico on Jul 17, 2008 9:35 AM PDT up 0 recs

So, you have no problems if I start spamming

crap fanposts to push other crap fanposts down the list?

All right then.

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by rfloh on Jul 17, 2008 10:14 AM PDT up 0 recs

Hmm...I write "interesting fanpost on an original idea"

and you hear “crap fanpost”. Fasc-kinating.

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by Nico on Jul 17, 2008 10:43 AM PDT up 0 recs

Just seems to further bolster the 'self-wankery' suspicion I had earlier with rfloh's crap about Pujols.

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by Flashfire on Jul 17, 2008 1:18 PM PDT up 0 recs

I don't post "interesting fanposts on an

original idea” because I don’t have the time and don’t want to post crap that is written in 5 minutes after getting up in the morning.

Apparently, you have no problem with crap that is written in 5 minutes after getting up in the morning.

Also, for all your claims that “I have more “issue” with people scoffing at imbalanced trade ideas, and getting bent out of shape over the discussions occurring, than I have over the discussions themselves.”, you participate in mocking imbalanced trade ideas as anyone on this board.

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by rfloh on Jul 18, 2008 1:40 AM PDT up 0 recs

Seems to me as if discussing

rumored deals, possible deals, and ideas about deals is a staple of fan discussion. I have more "issue" with people scoffing at imbalanced trade ideas, and getting bent out of shape over the discussions occurring, than I have over the discussions themselves.

Where I would agree is that an entire fanpost dedicated to "What do you think of this trade idea?" is a waste because it doesn’t come from any rumored reality and all you get back is "I like it," "I hate it," and "You’re an idiot" in various forms. But something discussing "a Blanton deal" or "A Street deal" or "A deal with the Rays" seems reasonable – and if one is up I would hope all related ideas would be offered within that fanpost rather than deemed worthy of a new fanpost.

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by Nico on Jul 17, 2008 9:17 AM PDT up 0 recs

People need to use the "recommend" feature.

The other Blanton to phils rumor fanpost has over 100 responses, but I was the only person to Rec it.

If it was on the top of the fanposts, there likely wouldn’t be a new one made saying the exact same thing.

by mikev on Jul 17, 2008 9:19 AM PDT up 0 recs

sorry

I didn’t see that one if i had i wouldnt have posted this my bad guys.

Cust is the new Jaha.

by johnjahafanclub on Jul 17, 2008 11:05 AM PDT up 0 recs

Also, they need to use it intelligently with the DLD.

Fine and dandy to recommend the current day’s DLD, but the previous DLD should be unrecommended as soon as a new one is available. Much of the time, the recommended list is three different DLDs and whatever else bubbled up. I wouldn’t mind if the admins simply managed that, either.

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by jeepers on Jul 17, 2008 1:26 PM PDT up 0 recs

+1

by GeorgiaBoy on Jul 17, 2008 3:01 PM PDT up 0 recs

Yes, discussing deals is a staple of a fan blog

And this discussion just happened a day ago.

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by rfloh on Jul 17, 2008 9:24 AM PDT up 0 recs

well, you can't have one without the other

If we’re all free to post whatever moronic trade ideas pop into our heads, then people are free to strafe them mercilessly.

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by monkeyball on Jul 17, 2008 9:30 AM PDT up 0 recs

that's the whole problem...

we should just have the core group of people create all the fanposts and be the only ones allowed to comment on them. Then we can get down to the serious business of simulating the season on a computer so that we can stop wasting money paying all these damn players who only age and decline anyway.

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by Gaijin_Suketto on Jul 17, 2008 2:27 PM PDT up 0 recs

After all, we already know all the FIPs and pythag records

Isn’t it a bit of a waste of time and resources to play the damn games? Think of the potential savings in water and electricity!

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by Nico on Jul 17, 2008 2:28 PM PDT up 0 recs

Yes, of course

that is what I or monkeyball said.

You want a free market where anyone posts any diaries they like? Sure. I support free speech. But don’t complain when people mock crappy diaries mercilessly, or when people post diary after one paragraph diary about the Harden trade.

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by rfloh on Jul 18, 2008 1:44 AM PDT up 0 recs

What does everyone think of this?

They expressed their thoughts in this diary, which your diary bumped of the list of recent diaries.

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by rfloh on Jul 17, 2008 9:02 AM PDT 0 recs

off

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by rfloh on Jul 17, 2008 9:02 AM PDT up 0 recs

Buster Olney

says this is gaining traction. No idea who they expect back.

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by closetasfan on Jul 17, 2008 9:07 AM PDT 0 recs

I was wondering if something simple,

such as basically Blanton for Werth, might help both sides. Werth’s numbers are solid, both this season and career, without being “blow you out of the water” good so as to make him unattainable. His L/R splits are significant, but overall he looks like an upgrade from Murton (especially due to his speed), and if the A’s acquired Werth they could very well deal Street and Murton to the Rays and be set for the next couple seasons, with:

R. Sweeney – RF
Werth – LF
Cust – DH
Chavez – 3B
Gonzalez – CF
Ellis – 2B
Barton – 1B
Suzuki – C
Crosby – SS

Patterson – Tony Phillips/Chone Figgins Utility Stud

Street/Murton would yield you anything from a 3B or SS prospect to yet another good young starting pitcher who would allow you yet more depth to trade for a 3B/SS prospect this Winter.

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by Nico on Jul 17, 2008 9:24 AM PDT 0 recs

What happens when Thomas comes back?

by mikev on Jul 17, 2008 9:35 AM PDT up 0 recs

He's not a long-term consideration

and this lineup is conceived as much for 2009 as 2008. For now, when Thomas comes back you have 5 guys (Thomas, Cust, Werth, Sweeney, Gonzalez) for 4 positions (LF, CF, RF, DH), which is hardly too many players given the A’s health history – and arguably not too many if everyone stays healthy the rest of the season. Plus it’s exactly what we have right now with Murton instead of Werth.

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by Nico on Jul 17, 2008 9:38 AM PDT up 0 recs

How the mighty have fallen

I mean, jeez, Jason Werth is a platoon player. He’s not good in any sense of the word. And it’s a heck of a lot easier to find mediocre outfielders than it is to find mediocre pitchers.

I would question Beane’s sanity if he were to deal Blanton for Jason Werth (assuming Werth was the top player in the deal, obviously—I wouldn’t question his sanity for a Werth/Utley package…)

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by PaulThomas on Jul 17, 2008 3:51 PM PDT up 0 recs

Platoon player, or Oakland's best hitter?

Because his .833 OPS would lead our team and his .791 career OPS – and that’s against all pitching, mind you – would be close to tied for our team lead. And he would become our best base stealer (11/12 this year, 35/40 career).

Fine if you don’t agree. But you’d “question Beane’s sanity” if he got that and, say, a nice prospect, for Blanton, who is pitching worse and worse, has a 4.95 ERA, and can likely be replaced without any dropoff by a number of candidates in house? Talk about improving now and in the future – and freeing the A’s up, if they want, to deal someone else (like Murton or Buck) to fill a need.

I realize a trade has already occurred by the time I write this, but my point is the same – you basically look at every trade idea, PT, and go “you’re crazy!” No…not really. You pretty much questioned Beane’s sanity at the Harden/Gaudin trade and I think that one is going to look great before too long.

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by Nico on Jul 17, 2008 4:07 PM PDT up 0 recs

Eh?

Not really. I think they got an excellent return for Blanton in fact.

And comparing unadjusted park OPSes really isn’t OK as a shorthand when the parks in question are Philly and Oakland. Werth would not be the A’s best hitter now or anytime.

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by PaulThomas on Jul 17, 2008 5:22 PM PDT up 0 recs

The Philadelphia newspapers report

Three realistic acquisitions

Jarrod Washburn, lefthander, Seattle. Erik Bedard is the sexier name, but Washburn probably is the more realistic target. Forget Bedard’s asking price: He’s pitched six innings only once in his last six starts. Washburn (4-8, 4.83 ERA) isn’t a top-of-the-rotation guy, and hasn’t been since he went 18-6 in 2002 with the Angels, but the Phillies could view the 33-year-old as a guy who would be a solid No. 3 or No. 4. Remember, Kyle Lohse was 6-12 with a 4.58 ERA before the Phillies traded for him last season.

Jarrod Washburn, lefthander, Seattle. Erik Bedard is the sexier name, but Washburn probably is the more realistic target. Forget Bedard’s asking price: He’s pitched six innings only once in his last six starts. Washburn (4-8, 4.83 ERA) isn’t a top-of-the-rotation guy, and hasn’t been since he went 18-6 in 2002 with the Angels, but the Phillies could view the 33-year-old as a guy who would be a solid No. 3 or No. 4. Remember, Kyle Lohse was 6-12 with a 4.58 ERA before the Phillies traded for him last season.
Damaso Marte, lefthander, Pirates. The Phillies have always liked Brian Fuentes, but even if they were willing to put together a knockout package for the reliever, he has publicly said he wants to be a closer. He won’t get that chance here, which means it is unlikely the team would be able to re-sign the free-agent-to-be. Marte, on the other hand, could be available from the struggling Pirates. The 33-year-old has a career 3.18 ERA and is 4-0 with a 3.22 ERA this season, along with 44 strikeouts and only 14 walks in 44 2/3 innings. He would instantly upgrade the Phillies bullpen.

Joe Blanton, righthander, Oakland. The Phillies saw him up close and personal in late June when he stymied them for seven innings of a 5-2 Athletics win. He’s been inconsistent over his last eight starts – 2-6 with a 6.75 ERA – but there is a lot to like about him. *

I think the last two are the more realistic. I don’t really see the Angels tinkering with their roster too much.

As for Street, I would not mind seeing him move on. I love his character and personality, but have grown weary of his lack of production.

And if we trade Duke, I will freaking go ballistic!

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by OptimistPrime on Jul 17, 2008 9:31 AM PDT 0 recs

If the A's trade Duke,

I will need a restraining order and Billy will need the witness protection program.

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by Nico on Jul 17, 2008 9:39 AM PDT up 0 recs

Even if it was for Jimmy Rollins?

by mikev on Jul 17, 2008 9:46 AM PDT up 0 recs

I'd trade Duke just to see Nico play Dog: The Bounty Hunter

to Beane’s Richard Kimble

When you have a chance to get a guy like Sean Gallagher, you take it!

by WaddellCanseco on Jul 17, 2008 10:10 AM PDT up 0 recs

with Rich Harden as the one-armed man?

I told them 'My game is like a blog.' Because I don't know what a blog is, but it don't sound good. @('.')@

by monkeyball on Jul 17, 2008 10:35 AM PDT up 0 recs

I'd much prefer K-Rod in that role

by nevermoor on Jul 17, 2008 10:44 AM PDT up 0 recs

If Philly is looking for a lefty reliever

I’m sure Embree could be made available along with Blanton.

For who, I’m not so sure. It won’t be Burrell, not because he’s too expensive but because he’s a FA after the season. If we want him, we can go after him in the offseason. There were very slight rumors that the Phils could make available Howard because of his rapidly rising price tag, his desire to continually go to arby and his low average and high age. But somehow I don’t think we get him even if we throw in Barton with Blanton and Embree. Again I think the deal should be something like Cardenas, Donald, and Freddy Galvis/Dominic Brown for Blanton and Embree.

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by vignette17 on Jul 17, 2008 10:29 AM PDT up 0 recs

I wonder if

this trade could go down so quick that the A’s need a starter for tomorrow. or maybe they would just bump everyone up a day.

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by closetasfan on Jul 17, 2008 10:10 AM PDT 0 recs

I think everybody but Duke has had enough rest that it doesn't really matter

Smith, Eveland, or Gallagher could all go tomorrow and be fine.

by mikev on Jul 17, 2008 10:13 AM PDT up 0 recs

Trading Duke

I don’t want him to be traded either, but you know what? It’s all about trading from strength. Duke is pitching great, probably over his head. His value is at an ALL TIME high. Meanwhile, we’re currently stocked with starting pitching prospects. Gio could come up now. Cahill and Anderson by April of next year. We could get a major haul for Duke, less so for Blanton. Why the hell not?

by Crosbino on Jul 17, 2008 10:59 AM PDT 0 recs

Yes - let's keep trading our high performing players

for guys who might be great someday, so that we can trade them when they’re finally performing great for other guys who might be great someday – and we’ll always be “maybe really good someday!” Barf.

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by Nico on Jul 17, 2008 11:05 AM PDT up 0 recs

No kidding

and banking on people being ready when you absolutely need them is a very bad idea. Eventually we’re going to have to start keeping some of the higher performers around of a while. You can only patch up your roster so many times before it falls apart (see ‘07).

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by DMOAS on Jul 17, 2008 11:21 AM PDT up 0 recs

Trade Gio, Cahill, Anderson

for this guy! Now!

by GusanoQuemador on Jul 17, 2008 12:22 PM PDT up 0 recs

Nico, the thing is

most of our trades have been for near-ready or ready talent and that talent has usually equalled the talent lost in the short term. Swish = Sweeney +Gio in the short term. Haren = CGon, Smith, and Eveland. Harden = Gallagher. Mulder

at the time, you could even argue Hudson = meyer.

The point is, I think Beane’s trades are not now for 3 years from now. They’re now for 6 months from now. That’s enough to get leverage (after all, the Cubs needed Harden NOW, and the DBacks needed Haren NOW, but still doesn’t sacrifice the present for the future all that much.

to simplify- before lamenting that we’re always rebuilding, ask yourself many of the last 8 seasons we’ve spent rebuilding.

by ohmangoAs on Jul 17, 2008 12:46 PM PDT up 0 recs

The first paragraph should finish with

Mulder = Haren I’d use a less than symbol, but I think thats what ruined the first post. lol

by ohmangoAs on Jul 17, 2008 12:47 PM PDT up 0 recs

No argument, ohmangoAs

And I have no argument with what Beane has done, only with what Beanish-fans sometimes seem to want done. There is a difference and you have zeroed in on it.

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by Nico on Jul 17, 2008 2:30 PM PDT up 0 recs

+1

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by Gaijin_Suketto on Jul 17, 2008 2:31 PM PDT up 0 recs

That makes sense

by ohmangoAs on Jul 17, 2008 3:45 PM PDT up 0 recs

Sign Duke....maybe

The only thing holding me back from screaming at the A’s for not signing him to a four year lucrative contract is his injury history. The only long term contracts the A’s have dished out turned out to be disasters. Dye was gone for his three years he signed up for and then blew up with Chicago and Chavvy is hurting next year too. I would love to sign Duke, but I wouldn’t mind a trade because of his back and hip problems.

by asyouwish33 on Jul 17, 2008 11:58 AM PDT up 0 recs

A's don't like to hand out long contracts to pitchers

especially ones with injury histories and who are approaching or past thirty. The attrition rate for pitchers is too high.

They’ll sign someone like Hudson, Mulder, Zito or Haren to “long term” contracts that cover their already controlled years, plus a year or two of FA, but not much more than that.

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by Zonis on Jul 17, 2008 1:05 PM PDT up 0 recs

the A's shouldn't hand out long contracts to anyone...

unless they’re to tie up someone through arby years…

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by Gaijin_Suketto on Jul 17, 2008 2:32 PM PDT up 0 recs

I don't want the A's to trade Duke either,

but he is performing over his head this year. His BABIP is .213. That is crazy low. This is generally out of his control and will normalize to around .300 over time, so while I think he’s taken some great strides as a starter, we can’t expect this type of performance in the long run. His value is probably at an all-time high now.

by Sliderule on Jul 17, 2008 12:27 PM PDT up 0 recs

I agree that he won't sustain a .213 BAPIP, but I also think

Duke is the type of pitcher who can keep his BAPIP low. A lot of his outs are routine medium or medium-deep fly balls caused by getting hitters slightly out on the front foot on the curve or cutter. He avoids the sweet spot on the bat through command and change of speeds and I think he is a rare pitcher who can get a lot of fly balls out, even medium deep ones, and sustain success because it’s happening for a very specific and sustainable reason.

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by Nico on Jul 17, 2008 2:32 PM PDT up 0 recs

FWIW

I would expect his BABIP to rise to around his career average, maybe with a little regression to the league average—so somewhere in the .270-.280 range.

He is also going to start giving up more home runs per fly ball. His performance this year has been that of a guy with a mid-3s ERA, which is very good but not this good.

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by PaulThomas on Jul 17, 2008 3:56 PM PDT up 0 recs

He'll probably have close to that soon, just by way of

the inevitable start every pitcher has eventually that looks something like 2.2 IP, 6 ER. He just literally hasn’t had a poor start yet.

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by Nico on Jul 17, 2008 4:08 PM PDT up 0 recs

When in the F*** do we stop trading?

It is my opinion that the Beaner is just playing cards with nothing up his sleeve, he is banking on his so-called luck that his blind decisions work. For one thing he has yet to get any crowd attracting players, thats why the stadium is empty! not enough color.
no crowds no money you dummy.

by rduron on Jul 17, 2008 2:12 PM PDT 0 recs

never...

the day the A’s stop trading is the day they go stagnant and die.

"All managers are losers, they are the most expendable pieces of furniture on the face of the Earth."- Ted Williams

by Gaijin_Suketto on Jul 17, 2008 2:33 PM PDT up 0 recs

The A's can keep Duke and Ellis,

and still be a team that has traded like crazy and will continue to trade like crazy.

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by Nico on Jul 17, 2008 2:36 PM PDT up 0 recs

Supposedly the deal is done.

My friend got one of the MLB.com text updates, but it has no details on the players involved.

by mikev on Jul 17, 2008 3:42 PM PDT 0 recs

thats what i heard to

by buckfan6 on Jul 17, 2008 3:44 PM PDT up 0 recs

ESPN just reported it

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by sprtsnwyn on Jul 17, 2008 3:48 PM PDT 0 recs

Blanton to Philly

Might as well Jump! - Van Halen

by sprtsnwyn on Jul 17, 2008 3:48 PM PDT up 0 recs

The "MMMM.....

Cupcakes” shirt will not making an appearance at AN Midwest Day

Neat Sig

by smith1051 on Jul 17, 2008 3:57 PM PDT up 0 recs

SMITH!!!

Yes! My man!

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by sprtsnwyn on Jul 17, 2008 4:09 PM PDT up 0 recs

How you been?

Neat Sig

by smith1051 on Jul 17, 2008 4:13 PM PDT up 0 recs

Pretty good

Wrapping up the summer semester. You probably didn’t know I’m back in school at WSU, but if you didn’t, now you are caught up. What’s new with you? How is the little Smith?

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by sprtsnwyn on Jul 17, 2008 4:16 PM PDT up 0 recs

Good for you!

Kharma is doing awesome – can’ t wait to take her to her 1st A’s game in Sept!

Neat Sig

by smith1051 on Jul 17, 2008 4:30 PM PDT up 0 recs

Good

I’ll probably have to wait until next season, unfortunately. But I went up to Chicago and down to Texas to see them, so I’m ok with it. They need to get back on the weekend in KC.

Might as well Jump! - Van Halen

by sprtsnwyn on Jul 17, 2008 4:32 PM PDT up 0 recs