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Mid Season - Who Are Our Top 10 Prospects?

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Its the half way point in the season with the All Star Break here, and we've seen quite a bit of change in our system. We've acquired several prospects along the way, and we've called some up. So as of now, using ROY Qualifying rules to eliminate players who've been up too long, what does our top 10 Prospect list look like now?

First lets see what the elimination number is. From an SI Article, it says that;

Right now, though, there are no limits on age or previous experience outside of the major leagues. All a player has to do to qualify as a rookie is to have fewer than 130 at-bats or 50 innings pitched in the major leagues and fewer than 45 days on a major league roster.

I am not going to bother trying to count up how many days the players have been on the Roster, but Innings and At Bats are easily found.

Now lets look at our previous Top 10 Lists coming into the season;

    John Sickles, MinorLeagueBaseball.com

  1. Carlos Gonzalez, OF, Grade B+
  2. Daric Barton, 1B, Grade B+
  3. Brett Anderson, LHP, Grade B+
  4. Chris Carter, 1B, Grade B+ (an aggressive grade but I LOVE this guy)
  5. James Simmons, RHP, Grade B
  6. Henry Alberto Rodriguez, RHP, Grade B  (big-time sleeper, great arm)
  7. Trevor Cahill, RHP, Grade B-
  8. Aaron Cunningham, OF, Grade B-
  9. Corey Brown, OF, Grade B-
  10. Andrew Bailey, RHP, Grade B- (another sleeper with an aggressive grade)
  11. Sean Doolittle, 1B, Grade B-
  12. Javier Herrera, OF, Grade C+ (great tools, but refinement??)
  13. Dan Meyer, LHP, Grade C+
  14. Greg Smith, LHP, Grade C+
  15. Sam Demel, RHP, Grade C+
  16. Andrew Carignan, RHP, Grade C+
  17. Grant Desme, OF, Grade C+
  18. Travis Banwart, RHP, Grade C+
  19. Josh Horton, SS, Grade C+
  20. Jermaine Mitchell, OF, Grade C

Kevin Goldstien, Baseball Prospectus

Five-Star Prospects
1. Daric Barton, 1B
Four-Star Prospects
2. Trevor Cahill, RHP
Three-Star Prospects
3. James Simmons, RHP
4. Henry Rodriguez, RHP
5. Andrew Bailey, RHP
6. Corey Brown, OF
7. Jermaine Mitchell, OF
8. Javier Herrera, OF
9. Jerry Blevins, LHP
Two-Star Prospects
10. Josh Horton, SS
11. Sean Doolittle, 1B

Baseball America

1. Carlos Gonzalez, of
2. Gio Gonzalez, lhp
3. Brett Anderson, lhp
4. Fautino de los Santos, rhp
5. Daric Barton, 1b
6. Trevor Cahill, rhp
7. James Simmons, rhp
8. Henry Rodriguez, rhp
9. Aaron Cunningham, of
10. Chris Carter, 1b

Of those lists, the following no longer qualify:

Daric Barton - 227 AB
Carlos Gonzalez - 146 AB
Greg Smith - 110 IP

And now we have the new guys to add to the list, aside from those who were just left off. The guys who just joined the Organization.

Sean Gallagher
Jamile Weeks
Eric Patterson
Michel Inoa
Tyson Ross

and probably some more I am forgetting.

Now, we eliminate Gallagher for pitching too many innings in the Majors already, and we are left with that list added.

We've had breakout performances in the minors by a number of players. There are those we all know, such as Doolittle, Cahill and Anderson, and there are even the resurgence of Matt Sulentic, Craig Italiano and the elevation of prospects like Corey Brown. There have also been guys who fell off the face of the earth, like De Los Santos (Tommy John Surgery), and those who were hanging on by a finger and let go all together (Javier Herrera).

This is my Mid-Season top 10 Oakland Athletics prospects, and I hope that either Taj or Grover put together a better list.

1. Trevor Cahill, SP, AA
2. Sean Doolittle, 1B, AA
3. Brett Anderson, SP, AA
4. Aaron Cunningham, CF, AA
5. Michel Inoa, SP, DSL
6. Gio Gonzalez, SP, AAA
7. James Simmons, SP, AA
8. Chris Carter, 1B, A+
9. Henry Rodriguez, SP, A+
10. Corey Brown, OF, A+

Just Outside:
Mike Mazzaro, SP, Eric Patterson, 2B/OF, Matt Sulentic, OF, Fautino De Los Santos, SP, Craig Italiano, SP, Jesus Guzman, 3B, Jamile Weeks, 2B, Tyson Ross, SP

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No matter how you dice it up

it’s an enviable embarrassment of riches. Hopefully, we’ll have some position prospects good enough to elbow their way onto that list soon.

"PECOTA can pretty much kiss my ass."-Nico

by jeepers on Jul 14, 2008 9:35 PM PDT   0 recs

I would say:

1. Cahill
2. Anderson
3. Gio
4. Inoa (placing him is a bit arbitrary)
5. Simmons
6. HRod
7. DLS
8. Carter
9. Doolittle
10. Cunningham
Next 10:
C. Brown, Demel, Dixon, Jose Garcia, Guzman, Leon, Patterson, Petit, Powell, Weeks.
Next 10:
Carignan, Christian, Donaldson, Guzman, Italiano, Mazzaro, Paramore, Pennington, Ross, Sulentic.

Generally:
1. I think the pitching is way way way way better than the hitting as you can see. The best hitters are 1B/OF with K problems.
2. “We” are not particularly strong in elite prospects, which is a shame. I would say that only Cahill and Anderson fit that bill. However, the depth is astounding. All of the 30 I listed are plausible major league players. I would guess that the org blows every other club out of the water in terms of depth.

The A's colors are green and gold.

by mikeA on Jul 14, 2008 9:58 PM PDT   0 recs

Wow, you must really dislike Sean Doolittle...

Yeesh. I mean, he’s been striking out a lot this year, but he hasn’t blown out his elbow (costing him most of two seasons) or walked 36 AA batters in 33 innings.

Procedural things: Petit may technically still be eligible, but only in the narrowest possible sense. He will be over the “service days” limit by the end of the year.

Also, unless there’s a second Guzman that I’m not aware of, you appear to have listed him twice.

Your 2008 Athletics: It's Nothing Personal.

by PaulThomas on Jul 14, 2008 10:32 PM PDT to parent up   0 recs

Whoops on Guzman

I’d put him in the middle 20.

Doolittle: He could have been as high as 4.
But:
1)1 great half-season; not so impressive before that.
2)In my schema, high upside pitchers with electric stuff (Hrod/DLS) even if they haven’t been that successful rank higher than a 1Bman whose bat may not even play in the majors. Also, I’m much more willing to attribute a “Cal League effect” to Doolittle than to Carter, since he hadn’t shown any HR power prior to this year and is not a giant, as Carter is. His BBs could also be better given the Ks. I would guess that his babip at Stockton was somewhat fluky.

But I don’t have strong feelings on the placement of my 3-10.

I would expect Petit to go back down when Crosby returns.

The A's colors are green and gold.

by mikeA on Jul 14, 2008 10:49 PM PDT to parent up   0 recs

its really his first season of pro ball though

and his first season of being a position-only player.

facepalm.jpg

by Zonis on Jul 14, 2008 11:09 PM PDT to parent up   0 recs

Leon seems a bit low given how well he did in the Cal League at 19

and the Mexican League at 18. Although I guess his innings were being limited.

I guess you don’t think a lot of the Dominicans—Inoa, Contreras, Rosario, Sena..

When you have a chance to get a guy like Sean Gallagher, you take it!

by WaddellCanseco on Jul 16, 2008 2:18 PM PDT to parent up   0 recs

Oops scratch Inoa

When you have a chance to get a guy like Sean Gallagher, you take it!

by WaddellCanseco on Jul 16, 2008 2:37 PM PDT to parent up   0 recs

Wait

Why scratch Inoa?

Your 2008 Athletics: It's Nothing Personal.

by PaulThomas on Jul 16, 2008 2:42 PM PDT to parent up   0 recs

When a $4M player has an itch

You’d better damn well scratch it. It’s for the good of the team (and if you don’t he gets hit with -1 projectability)

by nevermoor on Jul 16, 2008 2:44 PM PDT to parent up   0 recs

Because he didn't underrate him

But mostly what nevermoor said

When you have a chance to get a guy like Sean Gallagher, you take it!

by WaddellCanseco on Jul 16, 2008 2:45 PM PDT to parent up   0 recs

i think DLS should be lower

you have to give a little more credit to guys who are 1) performing well and 2) not injured for the next year.

A's v Giants "is kind of like the difference between going to see the Ramones and going to see the Bee Gees. A's fans will go see the Ramones." -BB 07/27/05

by xbhaskarx on Jul 14, 2008 11:01 PM PDT to parent up   0 recs

I put him there because

he would have been in the running for #1 (and top 4 at worst) before the injury and TJ surgery is pretty successful.

The A's colors are green and gold.

by mikeA on Jul 14, 2008 11:05 PM PDT to parent up   0 recs

It is... but his margin for error is now gone

He’s going to be 24 in his first full season after the surgery. Optimistically hoping that he shows enough in limited time next year to get past A+, he’s going to be a 24-year-old in AA with 2 options burnt (he has to be added to the 40-man after this season). That’s not the best situation to be in.

Your 2008 Athletics: It's Nothing Personal.

by PaulThomas on Jul 15, 2008 8:12 AM PDT to parent up   0 recs

DLS

He might be fully healthy by 2009 Arizona Fall League. If DLS proves he’s healthy, he should be a TOP3 Prospect before the 2010 Season. Possible trade chip prior to the 2010 Season, to help bring us a bat.

by Colorado Fan on Jul 15, 2008 10:08 AM PDT to parent up   0 recs

No one is going to trade serious value for a guy who is 24, has never pitched above A ball,

and is just coming off major surgery. And rightly so.

Your 2008 Athletics: It's Nothing Personal.

by PaulThomas on Jul 15, 2008 10:16 AM PDT to parent up   0 recs

Yep

He’ll still have the talent, but he loses a lot of projection because of the lost years.

If he burns through the minors that year then all’s well, but otherwise he’s in real danger of getting buried

by nevermoor on Jul 15, 2008 12:14 PM PDT to parent up   0 recs

I'm not sure about the two options burnt part:

1) Can’t they put him on the major league 60-day DL and burn no options?

2) Infallible Wikipedia says

“If a player is optioned to the minors, but spends fewer than 90 days as an active player, the option is not considered to be used. A player has to be on the active list of a major-league or minor-league team for at least 90 days during a championship season to be credited with a season of service for options purposes.”

http://www.mlb4u.com/wiki/index.php/Options#Full_season_Rule

Didn’t this apply to Herrera too?

When you have a chance to get a guy like Sean Gallagher, you take it!

by WaddellCanseco on Jul 16, 2008 2:25 PM PDT to parent up   0 recs

I have never heard of this rule

Your 2008 Athletics: It's Nothing Personal.

by PaulThomas on Jul 16, 2008 2:33 PM PDT to parent up   0 recs

You mean you haven't memorized Wikipedia?

When you have a chance to get a guy like Sean Gallagher, you take it!

by WaddellCanseco on Jul 16, 2008 2:35 PM PDT to parent up   0 recs

He did, but then I changed it.

Seriously, though, that’s a great rule.

by nevermoor on Jul 16, 2008 2:37 PM PDT to parent up   0 recs

I don't think it's accurate

Seriously. I think it’s confusing the rules whereby a player can get a fourth option year with the rules for how an option is used.

Your 2008 Athletics: It's Nothing Personal.

by PaulThomas on Jul 16, 2008 2:39 PM PDT to parent up   0 recs

Hmmm....we need a corroborating source!

When you have a chance to get a guy like Sean Gallagher, you take it!

by WaddellCanseco on Jul 16, 2008 2:46 PM PDT to parent up   0 recs

Ask and ye shall... whatever
There are other idiosyncrasies in the options rules. Fourth options for certain players who reach the big leagues quickly, for instance. The right of players with certain amounts of big league service to refuse an optional assignment. The nullification of an option when a player is active for fewer than 90 days in a Minor League season.


Not a perfect source, but better than a wiki

by nevermoor on Jul 16, 2008 2:50 PM PDT to parent up   0 recs

That's not wikiepedia

That’s a wiki by mlb4u.com. There’s a difference.

ZIPS: Milledge: 466 HR, 485 2B, 2282 hits, 278-379-524

by rfloh on Jul 16, 2008 3:27 PM PDT to parent up   0 recs

You're right. Sorry to all for the error.

When you have a chance to get a guy like Sean Gallagher, you take it!

by WaddellCanseco on Jul 16, 2008 6:40 PM PDT to parent up   0 recs

Thinking out loud....

It would strike me as unseemly or possibly against the rules for some team to take him in Rule 5 while he’s on the DL so maybe they won’t have to add him?....

The A's colors are green and gold.

by mikeA on Jul 15, 2008 1:18 PM PDT to parent up   0 recs

Don't think so

You have to pay the piper eventually if you Rule 5 a guy and he goes on the DL—sooner or later he has to spend 5 months on your 25-man roster before you can option him. Maybe that’s enough of a deterrent to stop anyone from taking him. But as far as I know, there’s no rule against it—and I wouldn’t be willing to take the chance.

Your 2008 Athletics: It's Nothing Personal.

by PaulThomas on Jul 15, 2008 1:33 PM PDT to parent up   0 recs

It's entirely possible there's a gentlemen's agreement on that type of thing

But even if there is it’d just be moral high ground if we lost him, which seems like a poor position to be in.

by nevermoor on Jul 15, 2008 2:21 PM PDT to parent up   0 recs

Kinda off topic but

Do the A’s view Arnold Leon as a potential starter or a reliever? I think he was used primarily as a reliever in stockton before going back to the Mexican League

by webgem101 on Jul 14, 2008 10:10 PM PDT   0 recs

Also, that question is pretty on-topic

The A's colors are green and gold.

by mikeA on Jul 14, 2008 10:19 PM PDT to parent up   0 recs

Christ, I've been upstaged

My midseason top 30 list was mere days—nay, perhaps even hours—away.

Huh. I’m not sure what the correct move here is. Does proper etiquette demand that I slash it down, as a budget measure to avoid wasting words on topics already covered? Do I simply say “damn the torpedoes” and forge onward, leading to a hard-fought but ultimately not in doubt naval battle in which the mines of cynicism do more damage to my cause than the guns of Zonis’s rebel fleet? Do I ask him to delete his on the putative grounds that, well, mine is better, and I just got done watching “House” so I’m in a particularly self-centered mood right now? Should I even bother making it better? Should I instead focus on my job, which I will need in order to pay royalties to 74mk for his copyrighted “existential rant in the form of questions” style which I am shamelessly aping in this post?

It’s a head-scratcher, and no mistake.

Your 2008 Athletics: It's Nothing Personal.

by PaulThomas on Jul 14, 2008 10:14 PM PDT   0 recs

Given the state of the big league club

duplicative minor league fanposts seem far from the end of the world. I could even post a different list in your fanpost, and making them is pretty fun.

The A's colors are green and gold.

by mikeA on Jul 14, 2008 10:18 PM PDT to parent up   0 recs

just post another diary on the harden trade instead

A's v Giants "is kind of like the difference between going to see the Ramones and going to see the Bee Gees. A's fans will go see the Ramones." -BB 07/27/05

by xbhaskarx on Jul 14, 2008 11:00 PM PDT to parent up   0 recs

I don't get tired of reading threads like this

Please post it!

"You know, a long time ago being crazy meant something. Nowadays everybody's crazy."

-Charles Manson

by kaweahkaweah on Jul 15, 2008 12:05 AM PDT to parent up   0 recs

post it, PT-

Contribute your voice to the polyphony that is AN…

I’d still rather have Street on my team than K-Rod, just because I hate douchebags. -Taj Adib

by Leopold Bloom on Jul 15, 2008 11:30 AM PDT to parent up   0 recs

Gio

He should be #2 or #3 IMHO. Cunningham hasn’t done enough in AA to pass Gio, and Inoa hasn’t pitched a lick.

by Colorado Fan on Jul 14, 2008 10:51 PM PDT   0 recs

Just Checked...

Another Solid Start by Gio in Salt Lake: 7.1 IP, 5 Hits, 1 ER, 4 BB, 7 K

... still a little wild, but he conquered the altitude of Salt Lake.

by Colorado Fan on Jul 14, 2008 10:56 PM PDT to parent up   0 recs

do not pass gio?

A's v Giants "is kind of like the difference between going to see the Ramones and going to see the Bee Gees. A's fans will go see the Ramones." -BB 07/27/05

by xbhaskarx on Jul 14, 2008 10:56 PM PDT to parent up   0 recs

But still collected $200

When you have a chance to get a guy like Sean Gallagher, you take it!

by WaddellCanseco on Jul 16, 2008 2:26 PM PDT to parent up   0 recs

can i still have $200?

A's v Giants "is kind of like the difference between going to see the Ramones and going to see the Bee Gees. A's fans will go see the Ramones." -BB 07/27/05

by xbhaskarx on Jul 14, 2008 10:57 PM PDT to parent up   0 recs

D'oh!

When you have a chance to get a guy like Sean Gallagher, you take it!

by WaddellCanseco on Jul 16, 2008 2:27 PM PDT to parent up   0 recs

Rashun Dixon

Where does this kid fit in? 17 Years Old and SLG. 597 (71 PA) in the Arizona Arizona League

Interesting Article Here: http://www.clarionledger.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20080607/SPORTS02/806070336

by Colorado Fan on Jul 14, 2008 11:09 PM PDT   0 recs

4 HRs and 5 (!) 3B so far:

very promising. I’d put him 11-15. He looked very big, very strong, and very fast in the scouting video.

The A's colors are green and gold.

by mikeA on Jul 14, 2008 11:16 PM PDT to parent up   0 recs

Too many questions

We still don’t know how he’ll develop. Although he has the ability to develop into an all star, he’s not the safe bet (as safe a bet as a prospect can be) to make the big leagues as people like Cahill, Anderson or Doolittle.

Currently on my list I have him in the low twenty’s with a few more people to add. Now, if he erases some of those question marks by making Kane County out of spring training and doing well next year he could very easily be a top ten pick.

Sometimes life will strike you out on a curve ball and the only choice you have is to flip off the umpire and walk to first base anyway.

by Threepwood XX on Jul 14, 2008 11:18 PM PDT to parent up   0 recs

He's 17

That would be crazy rushing him. He’s still raw as all get out—look at his strikeout numbers. He needs at least one, if not two years of the full extended spring-short season-instructional league treatment.

Your 2008 Athletics: It's Nothing Personal.

by PaulThomas on Jul 15, 2008 8:15 AM PDT to parent up   0 recs

ahead of weeks

(damn you rangers for drafting smoak)

A's v Giants "is kind of like the difference between going to see the Ramones and going to see the Bee Gees. A's fans will go see the Ramones." -BB 07/27/05

by xbhaskarx on Jul 14, 2008 11:34 PM PDT to parent up   0 recs

Top 10

Cahill
Anderson
Gonzalez
Doolittle
Dixon
Cunningham
Carter
Inoa
DLS
Weeks

I don’t want to move Inoa too high up the list (in fact, I was not going to have him at all, but the a’s are so high on him) because I like numbers. I love Dixon. I think he will move quickly through the system. I’m not sure about Henry Rodriguez. I like him, but if he does not learn control, he won’t make it past AA.

by asyouwish33 on Jul 14, 2008 11:10 PM PDT   0 recs

I'm not a conformist

So I’ll post my list like Sickles. I might be a little optimistic but I think we are just so stacked and probably have the most depth of any minor league system even over Tampa. I’m not even listing injured players like DLS and Ross.

1. Trevor Cahill A- (only thing he doesn't have is an overpowering fastball)
 2. Brett Anderson A- (low end Blanton 2.0 high end Mulder 2.0)
 3. Gio Gonzalez A- 
 4. Michel Inoa B+ (Skys the limit only thing that will stop him is injuries)
 5. Sean Doolittle B+ 
 6. James Simmons B+
 7. Chris Carter B+
 8. Aaron Cunningham B
 9. Henry Rodriguez B
10. Vince Mazzaro B
11. Jemile Weeks B-
12. Corey Brown B-
13. Josh Donaldson B-
14. Rashun Dixon C+
15. Arnold Leon C+

We just have incredible depth even our lower end prospects like Herrera has a good chance to contribute at the MLB level at some point. Now if they can use that Harden and Gaudin money to sign Zac Elgie, Brent Warren, Brett Hunter(if healthy), and Nick Maronde we will be really stacked.

by AthleticsReign on Jul 14, 2008 11:26 PM PDT   0 recs

GOd damnit lol

I’m not gonna write that all over again /sigh maybe after I take my 30 min of practicing learning a new language I’m gonna practice my Indonesian.

by AthleticsReign on Jul 14, 2008 11:29 PM PDT to parent up   0 recs

I really really hope we sign Warren and Hunter

If both are signed and healthy, that’s like two more first/second round picks. Granted that’s a huge if, but it’s only a little money for the A’s. I’d much rather have Inoa and those two than a guy like Loaiza. I wonder if anyone has done a study involving picks that fall in the draft due to injuries/signability/both and their rates of making it to the majors.

"Loyal? I'm the most loyal player money can buy." - Don Sutton

by vignette17 on Jul 15, 2008 12:33 AM PDT to parent up   0 recs

They have

Signing bonus is a much better predictor of a guy’s big-league success than what round he was picked in.

Your 2008 Athletics: It's Nothing Personal.

by PaulThomas on Jul 15, 2008 8:18 AM PDT to parent up   0 recs

IAs much as i'd love for Warren to get signed, what about Dusty Coleman ?

He was another top 200 prospect that got drafted and is in college, does anyone know why he is so hard to sign ?

If it’s just a matter of a couple 100 thousands, in the grand scheme of things, with all the money the A’s are saving this year, does it really mean much to just give it to them ?

Im just really hopeing they sign Coleman. Hunter/Warren/Maronde would be swell to !

by Gaffletic on Jul 15, 2008 9:46 AM PDT to parent up   0 recs

Coleman is a draft-eligible sophomore

He has 2 years of eligibility left, so he has a lot of negotiating leverage and the chance to continue to improve his stock.

I’d fall out of my chair if the A’s actually signed Maronde. (From surprise, not happiness. I don’t think he’s that great a prospect.)

Your 2008 Athletics: It's Nothing Personal.

by PaulThomas on Jul 15, 2008 10:18 AM PDT to parent up   0 recs

Seems like an excerpt from the Raw Shark Texts

I am Ray Fosse's man crushes for Clay Wood and Jason Kendall.

by franks a lot on Jul 15, 2008 7:16 AM PDT to parent up   0 recs

here is your list.

Just needed to copy/paste in notepad…

1. Trevor Cahill A- (only thing he doesn’t have is an overpowering fastball)
2. Brett Anderson A- (low end Blanton 2.0 high end Mulder 2.0)
3. Gio Gonzalez A-
4. Michel Inoa B+ (Skys the limit only thing that will stop him is injuries)
5. Sean Doolittle B+
6. James Simmons B+
7. Chris Carter B+
8. Aaron Cunningham B
9. Henry Rodriguez B
10. Vince Mazzaro B
11. Jemile Weeks B-
12. Corey Brown B-
13. Josh Donaldson B-
14. Rashun Dixon C+
15. Arnold Leon C+

by chri5 on Jul 15, 2008 11:33 AM PDT to parent up   0 recs

I don't do Top 10 lists

Right now, the best pitching prospect is Cahill and I’m giving the nod to Doolittle for top hitting prospect.

The monster at the end of this blog.

by grover on Jul 14, 2008 11:37 PM PDT   0 recs

i think pretty much everyone would agree with that, but how many pitchers are between cahill and doolittle?

A's v Giants "is kind of like the difference between going to see the Ramones and going to see the Bee Gees. A's fans will go see the Ramones." -BB 07/27/05

by xbhaskarx on Jul 15, 2008 12:14 AM PDT to parent up   0 recs

1

Anderson

The monster at the end of this blog.

by grover on Jul 15, 2008 1:15 AM PDT to parent up   0 recs

My list

Cahill (will prove that movement >>> velocity on a big league level)
Anderson (Mulder 2.0)
Gio ( I saw him pitch against the portland beavers (san diego’s AAA) and worry about his ability to pitch efficiently and go deep in games over the long haul ala Zito.)
Doolittle (remember that Ryan Zimmerman hit something like 7 homers while also playing for Virginia his last season, who has a cavernous home stadium, so the new power might be real)
Simmons (I worry about the dead arm but seems to be a solid bet to be a part of the rotation soon)
HRod ( if you happen to find some missing control please return it to the A’s c/o Henry Rodriguez)
Carter (love the light tower power)
Corey Brown (can he cut the K’s?)
Cunningham ( Is he better than Tbuck or Matt Murton?)
Inoa (man i was obnoxious when i was 16)
DLS (TJ has excellent recovery rates)

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by designatedforassignment on Jul 15, 2008 12:40 AM PDT   0 recs

good list and good comments

Re: Gio: going deep into games is extremely overrated. Otoh, the BBs are a HUGE problem. He’s a top prospect because very few pitchers have the capability to strike out as many guys as he does, but he is a long-shot to be a plus ML starter unless he can bring the BBs down to a tolerable level.

The A's colors are green and gold.

by mikeA on Jul 15, 2008 1:03 AM PDT to parent up   0 recs

How exactly is the ability to deep into games

overrated? It’s rarely mentioned at all, compared to things like Ks, walks, ERA, GB rate.

And it’s not useless. A pitcher who can still pitch well in the 7th or 8th inning allows the relievers to rest. Given how most MLB teams cycle through relievers every year in desperate and usually vain attempts to squeeze out enough semi decent innings from relievers, a starter with an ability to pitch an extra decent inning or 2 would seem to provide extra value.

ZIPS: Milledge: 466 HR, 485 2B, 2282 hits, 278-379-524

by rfloh on Jul 15, 2008 2:22 AM PDT to parent up   0 recs

Yep

I agree. That was one of my reasons why I thought trading Harden was a good thing… 5.2 IP / Start, every 6th day… just doesn’t cut it. Especially when you have guys like Eveland, Smith, and Gallagher in the rotation.

by Colorado Fan on Jul 15, 2008 10:16 AM PDT to parent up   0 recs

2008 IP Per start, AL:

1. Halladay 7.3
2. Lackey 7.3
3. Lee 6.9
4. Duchscherer 6.8
5. Santana 6.8

.
.
.

53. Harden 5.9

by 74mk on Jul 15, 2008 11:47 AM PDT to parent up   0 recs

Yeah Duke

I’ve always loved that about Schilling/Halladay/etc. I didn’t realize Duke was that high, but that’s pretty awesome.

by nevermoor on Jul 15, 2008 12:17 PM PDT to parent up   0 recs