Open Thread: Game 95 - A's vs. Angels
Los Angeles @ Oakland
Boy, it would be nice to win this game today. Not just because it's the last game before the All Star Break, it would net a series win for the A's, it would build some momentum for the dog-days of late July and August, it would cut the Angels' lead in the division to just 4 games and it would give unlikely-ace Justin Duchscherer that much more credibility in the eyes of the national media...but also because it's a lot sweeter to win any game against the Angels, especially when clowns such as Justin Speier spout off about "playing the game the right way":
Angels reliever Justin Speier hit two A's batters, Mark Ellis and Donnie Murphy, on Friday - and Murphy was drilled with the first pitch after Jack Hannahan's two-run homer.
"I always pitch inside, and when their hitters are leaning over the plate ... I know the timing was not right, but felt it was important to pitch inside right there," Speier said. "I was definitely trying to come up and in on both of them. I was not trying to hit either one. But if their hitters are going to continue to lean over the plate, we're going to continue to pitch them in.
"They're all diving. Their whole team dives," Speier said. "I consider (pitching inside) good baseball. It didn't look good that I hit the second guy, but that's the way the game should be played. ... I could care less about their bench being upset
Makes you wonder what he actually said in place of those, "...", doesn't it? It's funny, you would think that as an A's fan I would hate guys like Ervin Santana, Vlad Guerrero, Garrett Anderson and Scot Shields...you know, the guys that have traditionally tortured the A's. However, I respect those guys as players and also respect the fact that they don't go about their business with unnecessary and annoying flair (K-Rod) or a dangerous sense of entitlement to go ahead and hit batters with 90+mph fastballs up-and-in (Lackey, and now Speier).
Anyways, the Duke will look to build on his major-league leading ERA and reinforce his case to be considered a starter for the All Star Game as he faces an Angels team against whom he's 6-0 with a 1.28 ERA in his career. Joe "Colonel" Saunders, the Angels' scheduled starter for the game, has been scratched as he continues to attend to his wife and brand new baby daughter. Congrats Joe, just don't hit any of our batters! Dustin Moseley will take his place and start for the Halos.
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by LiZaRdReVoLuTiOn on Jul 13, 2008 1:01 PM PDT 0 recs
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by doctorK on Jul 13, 2008 1:02 PM PDT 0 recs
Just interesting to ponder -
If this were the season’s last game and the Angels were 1 game up, would they let Saunders go be with his wife?
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by Nico on Jul 13, 2008 1:04 PM PDT 0 recs
Of course
because they do things the right way.
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by sprtsnwyn on
Jul 13, 2008 1:05 PM PDT
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You would hope so.
But on local radio down here there was a heated discussion about him even pitching in the All Star game while his wife was recovering, so you never know.
by Taj Adib on
Jul 13, 2008 1:06 PM PDT
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They dive over the plate?
What a bunch of bullshit.
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by Flashfire on Jul 13, 2008 1:06 PM PDT 0 recs
Get used to them... Duke said
Hes gonna wear them every time he pitches at home.
When will then be now? Soon.
by Syphon on
Jul 13, 2008 1:08 PM PDT
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I never realized players had so much say in these things
but Duke has made it clear that they do
by schmifty on
Jul 13, 2008 1:09 PM PDT
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Well every pitcher chooses that days
Jersey color.
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by Syphon on
Jul 13, 2008 1:10 PM PDT
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Man, those throwbacks are niiiiiiiiiiiiice!! I especially loved the socks!
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Dumb and Dumber:
[after Lloyd trades the van in for a moped]
Lloyd: I get 70 miles to the gallon on this hog.
Harry: Just when I thought you couldn't get any dumber, you go and do something like this... and totally redeem yourself!
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by LiZaRdReVoLuTiOn on
Jul 13, 2008 1:12 PM PDT
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I'm wishing that, too.
Assuming you mean the bright green with yellow helmets.
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by iglew on
Jul 13, 2008 1:19 PM PDT
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It's safe to say it's worked so far
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by Joey C. on
Jul 13, 2008 1:10 PM PDT
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Why mess with what's working right!?!
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Dumb and Dumber:
[after Lloyd trades the van in for a moped]
Lloyd: I get 70 miles to the gallon on this hog.
Harry: Just when I thought you couldn't get any dumber, you go and do something like this... and totally redeem yourself!
oAkLaNd AtHlEtIcS!!
by LiZaRdReVoLuTiOn on
Jul 13, 2008 1:11 PM PDT
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Gallagher said the other day
that the black jerseys were made of a lighter material, so it was more comfortable for him to pitch in. So, I’m guessing maybe that’s why Duke likes them so much.
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by Kimberly on
Jul 13, 2008 1:16 PM PDT
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Here is Kansas
We’ve had Mariners-Royals on TV this weekend. Talk about some really, really boring baseball.
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by sprtsnwyn on Jul 13, 2008 1:10 PM PDT 0 recs
Ah, the Duke.
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by Nico on Jul 13, 2008 1:12 PM PDT 0 recs
Hasn't been talked about much
But what do people think about if Duke is going to wear down or not as we get towards the end of the season? I would say yeah, but he doesn’t exactly throw fireballs out there, so I could see him continuing to pitch well. Any thoughts?
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by sprtsnwyn on
Jul 13, 2008 1:13 PM PDT
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Everyone tires, it's just genetically his max velocity isn't as good as
say H Rod.
by OldhamA on
Jul 13, 2008 1:15 PM PDT
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This is a concern for just about everyone on the staff
Minus Joe Blanton, anyway. Moving into unsure territory this second half.
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by Joey C. on
Jul 13, 2008 1:15 PM PDT
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True
Not to mention the rookies.
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by sprtsnwyn on
Jul 13, 2008 1:16 PM PDT
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I dunno - everyone always has a reason why
Duchscherer won’t succeed, and the guy just goes out and gets people out.
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by Nico on
Jul 13, 2008 1:24 PM PDT
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Valid point
I still worry about unprecedented work loads. Even if it doesn’t manifest as arm trouble this season, there is a lot of evidence that it manifests the season after (re: Francisco Liriano). One thing that works in Duke’s favor is that he came up as a starter, so he has some experience with season-long starting work.
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by Joey C. on
Jul 13, 2008 1:29 PM PDT
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he's also fairly efficient
about 92 pitches per start and only 101IP with his brief injury. he’s way down there in pitcher’s abuse points too 121st with a total of 1252.
by rebus on
Jul 13, 2008 1:36 PM PDT
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I think there is a good chance that we'll see DiNardo, Saarloos, Meyer and/or Gio G
before the end of the season as guys need to be pushed back a start or two.
by Taj Adib on
Jul 13, 2008 1:17 PM PDT
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Moseley on 3 days rest
Damn we need to win this game.
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by sprtsnwyn on Jul 13, 2008 1:14 PM PDT 0 recs
Yay.
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by pam5981 on Jul 13, 2008 1:14 PM PDT 0 recs
Alright Suzuki!!
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Dumb and Dumber:
[after Lloyd trades the van in for a moped]
Lloyd: I get 70 miles to the gallon on this hog.
Harry: Just when I thought you couldn't get any dumber, you go and do something like this... and totally redeem yourself!
oAkLaNd AtHlEtIcS!!
by LiZaRdReVoLuTiOn on Jul 13, 2008 1:15 PM PDT 0 recs
Start the All Star game?
What? On two days rest? As though it was his side work or something? I REALLY hope he does not get a chance to pitch in that game. I know it would be a nice experience for him, but with the way these teams are assembled, it is not really a direct reflection of your ability. Jeter at short? Really?
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by tresselfan on Jul 13, 2008 1:16 PM PDT 0 recs
Dude, he didn't get to pitch last time! I'm pretty sure he would love to pitch in this one
and A’s fans would like to see representation on the field that day!
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Dumb and Dumber:
[after Lloyd trades the van in for a moped]
Lloyd: I get 70 miles to the gallon on this hog.
Harry: Just when I thought you couldn't get any dumber, you go and do something like this... and totally redeem yourself!
oAkLaNd AtHlEtIcS!!
by LiZaRdReVoLuTiOn on
Jul 13, 2008 1:18 PM PDT
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Meh...
What he would love, and what I would love are totally different things. The A’s sign his checks. Seems like a bad time to make any changes in his program. I know, I know, one inning maybe. Yet I can see how easy it would be to try to “ramp up” for that one inning, maybe more so than regular side work.
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by tresselfan on
Jul 13, 2008 1:28 PM PDT
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Yeah but still.
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Dumb and Dumber:
[after Lloyd trades the van in for a moped]
Lloyd: I get 70 miles to the gallon on this hog.
Harry: Just when I thought you couldn't get any dumber, you go and do something like this... and totally redeem yourself!
oAkLaNd AtHlEtIcS!!
by LiZaRdReVoLuTiOn on
Jul 13, 2008 1:29 PM PDT
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I want him to get into the game. One inning isn't going to kill him.
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by Flashfire on
Jul 13, 2008 1:21 PM PDT
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Murton is going to fit right in, LOL
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by asfaninpismobeach on Jul 13, 2008 1:18 PM PDT 0 recs
Pam's doing great
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by sprtsnwyn on
Jul 13, 2008 1:19 PM PDT
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Pssssh. Now that I have some water in me, I am!
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by pam5981 on
Jul 13, 2008 1:19 PM PDT
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"Pssssh" = sound of water flowing?
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by iglew on
Jul 13, 2008 1:21 PM PDT
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The sound of me admonishing sprtsnwyn
pam5981: Patience is a virtue that I do not possess.
ohtobe21likehuston: But you're good at drinking and cussing. Two out of three ain't bad.
by pam5981 on
Jul 13, 2008 1:23 PM PDT
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Jack came, and we killed him
Jack Daniels that is.
by asfansince1989 on
Jul 13, 2008 1:25 PM PDT
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I heard he's just playing b/c Beane wants to trade him, I heard to the Rays... but then again
it’s ESPN.
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Dumb and Dumber:
[after Lloyd trades the van in for a moped]
Lloyd: I get 70 miles to the gallon on this hog.
Harry: Just when I thought you couldn't get any dumber, you go and do something like this... and totally redeem yourself!
oAkLaNd AtHlEtIcS!!
by LiZaRdReVoLuTiOn on
Jul 13, 2008 1:20 PM PDT
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Did Moseley pitch against the A's earlier this year?
pam5981: Patience is a virtue that I do not possess.
ohtobe21likehuston: But you're good at drinking and cussing. Two out of three ain't bad.
by pam5981 on Jul 13, 2008 1:19 PM PDT 0 recs
Ya. But only in relief.
Has gotten killed by the A’s so far: 5 earned runs in 4 innings (prior to this game).
by Taj Adib on
Jul 13, 2008 1:23 PM PDT
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Yay runs
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by Joey C. on Jul 13, 2008 1:21 PM PDT 0 recs
A's:2 Pigs:0
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Dumb and Dumber:
[after Lloyd trades the van in for a moped]
Lloyd: I get 70 miles to the gallon on this hog.
Harry: Just when I thought you couldn't get any dumber, you go and do something like this... and totally redeem yourself!
oAkLaNd AtHlEtIcS!!
by LiZaRdReVoLuTiOn on Jul 13, 2008 1:21 PM PDT 0 recs
No need to apologize for that
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by Joey C. on
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I couldn't help myself!
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Dumb and Dumber:
[after Lloyd trades the van in for a moped]
Lloyd: I get 70 miles to the gallon on this hog.
Harry: Just when I thought you couldn't get any dumber, you go and do something like this... and totally redeem yourself!
oAkLaNd AtHlEtIcS!!
by LiZaRdReVoLuTiOn on
Jul 13, 2008 1:24 PM PDT
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Good start so far
Wish we got this start last night.
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by Flashfire on Jul 13, 2008 1:22 PM PDT 0 recs
Unicorn...time for some RISP magic!
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UGH
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by Langerhans4Pres on
Jul 13, 2008 1:23 PM PDT
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You got the power!

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by Joey C. on
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They don't know how to use him!
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Dumb and Dumber:
[after Lloyd trades the van in for a moped]
Lloyd: I get 70 miles to the gallon on this hog.
Harry: Just when I thought you couldn't get any dumber, you go and do something like this... and totally redeem yourself!
oAkLaNd AtHlEtIcS!!
by LiZaRdReVoLuTiOn on
Jul 13, 2008 1:24 PM PDT
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We need more runs
if we’re going to instigate some brawls.
by greala on Jul 13, 2008 1:24 PM PDT 0 recs
Jesus, Ellis is really struggling at home.
It can’t just be the foul territory. He swings into outs between the lines a lot more often than he does outside of them.
by Taj Adib on Jul 13, 2008 1:25 PM PDT 0 recs
Good area for investigation
when there is sufficient sample size, what is it?
Or, is it simply insufficient sample size?
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by One won lost won on
Jul 13, 2008 1:27 PM PDT
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Can't be small sample size.
He’s got 185 home at-bats so far this season. Dismal stats:
.184/.293/.297
Yikes!
by Taj Adib on
Jul 13, 2008 1:29 PM PDT
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Over 2005-2007 he was markedly better away than at-home.
Home: .267/.335/.423
Away: .291/.354/.445
The difference isn’t as drastic as it has been so far this season, but there’s no question he’s a better hitter away from the Coliseum, no matter where he hits. That’s not sample size, that’s a fact.
by Taj Adib on
Jul 13, 2008 1:37 PM PDT
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Right, but this year is just a curiosity
The whole team hits a lot better on the road, and the pitchers do a lot better at home. It’s a tough park.
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by mikeA on
Jul 13, 2008 1:39 PM PDT
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Yeah, I guess it's true that everyone is a better hitter away from the Coliseum.
But Ellis has been particularly atrocious at home this year. Like mikeA said, it’s probably just a coincidence.
by Taj Adib on
Jul 13, 2008 1:43 PM PDT
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Have you figured the splits for
pre-Briggs vs post-Briggs? Maybe he gets more sleep when he’s on the road.
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by iglew on
Jul 13, 2008 2:34 PM PDT
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