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Thirteen thoughts about This Harden Thing

-          When I heard about the Mulder trade, I put my fist in a wall.  When I heard about the Haren trade, I ran a school bus full of orphans off a cliffside road. When I heard about the Swisher trade, I halted AIDS research and declared war on several small, indefensible countries.  But when I heard about the Harden trade, I merely set fire to a weeping willow and punched a nun in the gut.  So it’s nice to know the trend is slowly reversing.

-         Thing That I Expected to Hear in Billy’s Pre-Game Interview on Tuesday But Unfortunately Did Not #1 – “Have you seen Harden’s arm?  It’s falling off!  And I mean that.  Two wispy fragments of blood-encrusted tendon are literally all that’s keeping his right arm attached to his shoulder.  I was kind of surprised the Cubs didn’t ask for a physical or something, but hey – caveat emptor.”

-          Has it occurred to anyone that maybe Eric Patterson is an extraordinarily good, supernally talented even, left wing, or striker, or goalie or something?  Boy, that’d make us all feel pretty dumb.

-         Thing That I Expected to Hear in Billy’s Pre-Game Interview on Tuesday But Unfortunately Did Not #2 – “Stars?!!  Who needs stars?!!  I’m the only star this team needs!! Me!!  Me!!! MEEEEE!!!!!!!!(crashing sounds as Billy chugs straight from a bottle of Johnnie Walker before breaking it over Ray Fosse’s head)”

-         Hey, more weak-hitting outfielders . . .  awesome.

-         Thing That I Did Not Expect to Hear in Billy’s Pre-Game Interview on Tuesday But Unfortunately Did #1 – “We needed to be younger.”  (And yes, this was the 2008 Oakland Athletics he was talking about.  And yes, Huston Streetwill be traded for two infants and a fetus with a surprisingly high OBP sometime in the next week.)

-      Thing That I Did Not Expect to Hear in Billy’s Pre-Game Interview on Tuesday But Unfortunately Did #2 – “Jemile Weeks reminds me a lot of a young Ray Durham.”  (While I am not the general manager of a major league baseball team and lack many of the skills and abilities that would be required of such a position, I feel that I know enough to distinguish between things that will comfort one’s fanbase the day of a potentially-devastating trade and things that will not.  This, Mr. Beane, will not.)

-          Hey, Dallas Braden . . . awesome.

-          If you’re feeling down about this trade, and perhaps wondering if there can be anyone who suffers as you do, just think of poor Joe Blanton, who has been hiding in a supply closet somewhere in the locker room area since the seventh inning of Wednesday’s game.  (He’s hoping Billy will forget he’s there.)

-          Thing That I Expected to Hear in Billy’s Pre-Game Interview on Tuesday But Unfortunately Did Not #3 – “Sure, Harden’s great, but Sean Gallagher may just be Roger Clemens, Bob Gibson and Cy Young rolled into one.  Plus Winston Churchill.  And Gandhi.  With a little Han Solo thrown into the mix.”

-          I would have felt much better about this trade had I not seen Jim Hendry and Lou Piniella on ESPN pouring champagne over themselves while running bare-chested through the streets of Chicago screaming “Wooooooo!!!!!!!!” some three and a half minutes after the trade was announced.  It just gave me a bad feeling.

-          Thing That I Expected to Hear in Billy’s Pre-Game Interview on Tuesday But Unfortunately Did Not #4 – Virtually anything that would have satisfactorily explained to me why he was willing to give away the most dominant Oakland pitcher of my lifetime for $23.50 and some Pop Rocks.                                                                  

-          Did I just write 600 words about this trade without mentioning Chad Gaudin once? Yes.  Yes I did.                                                      

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Blood encrusted tenden....

YES!

The first rule of Oakland is - you do not talk about injuries. The second rule of Oakland is - you DO NOT talk about trainers." - Larry Davis

by norcalfan on Jul 10, 2008 4:24 PM PDT reply actions   0 recs

Wait, what?

Ray Durham was pretty frigging good back when he could actually run and play defense.

Your 2008 Athletics: It's Nothing Personal.

by PaulThomas on Jul 10, 2008 4:25 PM PDT reply actions   0 recs

He's pretty freaking good now still at 37

The Giants need more young whippersnappers like him.

Jeremy was safe. He jumped over the tag.

by mrrickyg on Jul 10, 2008 5:04 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

He's pretty bad at this point

The defense really is a major issue, and last year he couldn’t hit his way out of a wet paper bag.

But up until about 2004, he was routinely 1-3 wins above average—a playoff level performer.

Your 2008 Athletics: It's Nothing Personal.

by PaulThomas on Jul 10, 2008 5:21 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Sorry about the Durham thing

But really, anything short of “a young Barry Bonds” was bound to disappoint at this stage of matters.

www.curveballcity.com

by CurveballKing on Jul 10, 2008 5:14 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

oh i get it we are playing a game

Jeremy was safe. He jumped over the tag.

by mrrickyg on Jul 10, 2008 5:20 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Yes.

That sounds about right.

www.curveballcity.com

by CurveballKing on Jul 10, 2008 5:20 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Given that we lost Harden . . .

I would have required the actual Walter Johnson – reanimated and reinvigorated to his absolute prime – to be satisfied.

www.curveballcity.com

by CurveballKing on Jul 10, 2008 5:30 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

complete with 350 IP per season

Jeremy was safe. He jumped over the tag.

by mrrickyg on Jul 10, 2008 5:35 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Hey, CurveBallKing, what's your address?

It’s just there’s a nun here that needs to serve you some papers.

I like Cindi. A. She never pretends to know more than she does. B. She has unbridled enthusiasm for her "Hotties," and isn't afraid to show it. -IM4Oakgal

by Nico on Jul 10, 2008 4:37 PM PDT reply actions   0 recs

Well

This thread is entertaining. I will give you that, King.

by IM4Oakgal on Jul 10, 2008 4:54 PM PDT reply actions   0 recs

Wait a minute...

we traded Harden?? When did this happen?

President of the Brent Gates Fan Club

by SoCal As Fan on Jul 10, 2008 5:09 PM PDT reply actions   0 recs

Point Taken

But I think you’ll find my post out stands out from the rest in that:

1) Absolutely nothing relevant is said, and
2) At no point do you consider yourself wiser or better-informed for having read it.

www.curveballcity.com

by CurveballKing on Jul 10, 2008 5:15 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Touché King...

touché

President of the Brent Gates Fan Club

by SoCal As Fan on Jul 10, 2008 5:19 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

That's not really so different from the rest

"May a nit suck Cajun geese?" wonders Red. No, we see gnu Jack Cust in a yam.

by andeux on Jul 10, 2008 5:21 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Great post CK!

I’m laughing my ass off man!!!!!

Actually, I thought Billy looked quite evil in the dugout when being interviewed…....maybe he’s starting to lose his hair?

by mrod on Jul 10, 2008 7:22 PM PDT reply actions   0 recs

NO-O-O-OOOOO!!!!!

Not Billi !!!

-Cindi

I like Cindi. A. She never pretends to know more than she does. B. She has unbridled enthusiasm for her "Hotties," and isn't afraid to show it. -IM4Oakgal

by Nico on Jul 10, 2008 7:31 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Dude an Infant

would have an OBP of 1.000.. just TRY throwing below his belt…

by C-Gon on Jul 10, 2008 7:57 PM PDT reply actions   0 recs

Funny

But Harden is not the most dominating pitcher in Oakland history… seriously, you have pitch regularly to earn that distinction.

by jeffro on Jul 10, 2008 9:34 PM PDT reply actions   0 recs

And it isn't like we don't have a lot of GREAT pitchers to choose from

He may be the best video game pitcher when injuries are set to off though. Even that is subject to debate.

by nevermoor on Jul 10, 2008 9:45 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Eckersley killed on that 1990/91 nintendo game

Couldn’t even sniff that

"Not in your wildest alcoholic nightmare would you ever imagines such events unfolding!" Bill King

by Buck Turgidson on Jul 11, 2008 10:22 AM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

He didn't say "most dominating pitcher in Oakland history".

He said, “the most dominant Oakland pitcher of my lifetime”.

Evidently Curveball King is 14 years old.

"Dispatch knuckleheadedness with Bond-like aplomb." –74mk

by iglew on Jul 10, 2008 10:45 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

But Rich Harden never started Opening Day

Even a 14-year old would have to admit that Carlos Reyes was the most dominant Oakland pitcher of his lifetime.

I like Cindi. A. She never pretends to know more than she does. B. She has unbridled enthusiasm for her "Hotties," and isn't afraid to show it. -IM4Oakgal

by Nico on Jul 10, 2008 10:51 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

3 pitches

change up, double change up, triple changeup

Jeremy was safe. He jumped over the tag.

by mrrickyg on Jul 11, 2008 8:14 AM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Did Reyes ever have a full season with us as a starter?

There are several recent pitchers who were arguably more dominant than Harden, including Hudson, Mulder and Zito when they were good.

But for a clear-cut favorite, I was thinking of Stew.

"Dispatch knuckleheadedness with Bond-like aplomb." –74mk

by iglew on Jul 11, 2008 12:27 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Vida Blue

Jeremy was safe. He jumped over the tag.

by mrrickyg on Jul 11, 2008 1:18 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

I think this trade is much simpler than we make it out to be

This year and next: If Harden’s healthy, Cubs win. If he’s not, A’s win.

2010 and beyond: A’s are better off than they would have been otherwise. Cubs are, too, if Harden’s healthy and signed. Translation: A’s probably win.

I thought Harden would fetch more. Billy wouldn’t have done the deal if he thought he could fetch more.

I think Billy knows what he’s doing.

Can we please just get on with cheering for this team?

it is not possible to strategize while the ball is coming towards you

by eastcoasta'sfan on Jul 11, 2008 5:19 AM PDT reply actions   0 recs

as per usual,

i think the players we got back, while don’t seem that great but solid, will get opportunity here, and will exceed everyone’s expectations, once again thinking beane found diamonds in the rough.

I have come not to get upset or distrust his moves yet, why start now.

by TheGreenGoldCrush on Jul 11, 2008 9:48 AM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Here here...

the “if” is so big, we used to joke about it. “IF Harden can stay healthy, the A’s should contend.” I haven’t forgotten that, though it seems some have.

Rich pitched some great games in green and gold and his talent is absolutely tantalizing. But there were just too many instances in the past where he was unexpectedly and/or inexplicably shut down, often without a timetable. However great Harden’s been, that’s not a player I’m going to pin my playoffs hopes on.

As for waiting it out to maybe get more value, that doesn’t seem like a risk I’d be willing to take.

by scatterbrian on Jul 11, 2008 2:57 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

I think if we're gonna trade Harden

We should focus on the Cardinals. I would love someone like, say, Colby Rasmus in return.

RagingHarden: Yeah if you get 20 starts out of me I'll be shocked. Like, I'll wreck my drawers.

by walk off bunt on Jul 11, 2008 10:20 AM PDT reply actions   0 recs

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