Game Thread: Game 83 - A's at Angels (cont.)
by Nico on Jul 1, 2008 9:05 PM PDT
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Patrol Craft Mojo
"Not in your wildest alcoholic nightmare would you ever imagines such events unfolding!" Bill King
I don't know if he's capable of going 3 innings,
but I’d love to see Ziggy pitch the 8th when Vlad comes up. Please not Embree-Vlad…
I like Cindi. A. She never pretends to know more than she does. B. She has unbridled enthusiasm for her "Hotties," and isn't afraid to show it. -IM4Oakgal
I don't like the combination of
3 innings plus starting off with two lefties. I’d definitely go with Embree here.
The A's colors are green and gold.
Do. Not. Even. Joke.
I think I just got Hives thinking about Embree facing Vlad.
Ryan Sweeney: I probably irrationally embraced him before you did.
Seriously folks, Ziggy is awesome
He throws almost all strikes, and no one can hit them.
The A's colors are green and gold.
Come on Booby.
Was Black Snake Moan a comedy or a drama?
by ohtobe21likehuston on Jul 1, 2008 9:08 PM PDT reply actions
Tonight someone asked me to name my favorite player on my least favorite team...
I said Scot Shields. Don’t let me down!
I keep complaining
and he never listens to me.
what’s up?
STAND
STAND CLOSER TO THE PLATE MR. CROSBY!!
That credit score AD is really catchy. I'm just glad that isn't MY score!!
Was Black Snake Moan a comedy or a drama?
by ohtobe21likehuston on Jul 1, 2008 9:09 PM PDT reply actions
ELLIS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
"I'm not going to buy my kids an encyclopedia. Let them walk to school like I did." -Yogi Berra
No doubt. Dudes around here have crushes on him.
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by ohtobe21likehuston on Jul 1, 2008 9:11 PM PDT up reply actions
When I grow up
I’m going to BE Mark Ellis.
"optimism 1 pessimism 0" ~Dirk
by 149 on Jul 1, 2008 9:12 PM PDT up reply actions
Like Mark. I want to be like Mark.
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by ohtobe21likehuston on Jul 1, 2008 9:13 PM PDT up reply actions
Unicorns and rainbows and Jennifer!!
A’s lead 3-2.
Was Black Snake Moan a comedy or a drama?
by ohtobe21likehuston on Jul 1, 2008 9:11 PM PDT reply actions
YES!
Hooray for MaEl and New Thread MOJO!!!
"God doesn't pay attention to your cute little hypotheticals." -- Jeff from LL
And the thread explodes!
MOJO BABY!
Without a skank, even.
Is this Heaven? No, it's Iowa. -Field of Dreams
Unicorn Powaaaaaah!
http://bocropleasestopswingingatbadpitches.blogspot.com/
by thejd44 on Jul 1, 2008 9:11 PM PDT reply actions
Semi OT question
Any A’s fans in the Chicago area planning on going to any of the games this weekend? I’ll be going to Thursday’s.
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by thejd44 on Jul 1, 2008 9:12 PM PDT reply actions
That's why I never let anyone relieve me
because…well…I’m just used to relieving myself.
"wither fair monkeyball?" ~fsu
No, don't!
But re-sign him for sure!
I like Cindi. A. She never pretends to know more than she does. B. She has unbridled enthusiasm for her "Hotties," and isn't afraid to show it. -IM4Oakgal
indeed
like he doesn’t have a worry in the world.
Was Black Snake Moan a comedy or a drama?
by ohtobe21likehuston on Jul 1, 2008 9:13 PM PDT up reply actions
And against righties
http://bocropleasestopswingingatbadpitches.blogspot.com/
by thejd44 on Jul 1, 2008 9:15 PM PDT up reply actions
I think bringing Embree in here is fine,
but I’d rather see him pitch to the first two hitters and then…Well, your choices would probably be Casilla, Foulke, Street for more than an inning.
I like Cindi. A. She never pretends to know more than she does. B. She has unbridled enthusiasm for her "Hotties," and isn't afraid to show it. -IM4Oakgal
I think that’s the only acceptable approach to if that happens
by justarebelheart on Jul 1, 2008 9:16 PM PDT up reply actions
and the sucky thing about it is, he’s a damn good player and he’s hard to dislike. The fact that he’s on the A’s makes it worse because you want to hate him, but he’s practically unhateable.
Don’t call me Desmond
by highlandhalo on Jul 1, 2008 9:12 PM PDT
small adjustment
He’s just fun to watch get hit.
"optimism 1 pessimism 0" ~Dirk
by 149 on Jul 1, 2008 9:16 PM PDT up reply actions
You're thinking of Manny Ramirez
Seriously, somebody plunk that guy.
Ryan Sweeney: I probably irrationally embraced him before you did.
oh there's plenty of guys
on The Plunk-it List.
"optimism 1 pessimism 0" ~Dirk
by 149 on Jul 1, 2008 9:17 PM PDT up reply actions
"practically" unhateable?!
Meaning they think he’s not entirely unhateable? Bastards!
There's no textbook for how to treat a geriatric tapir.
Well that was not good.
Was Black Snake Moan a comedy or a drama?
by ohtobe21likehuston on Jul 1, 2008 9:16 PM PDT reply actions
I would have let him see one more lefty.
Was Black Snake Moan a comedy or a drama?
by ohtobe21likehuston on Jul 1, 2008 9:17 PM PDT up reply actions
2 innings, not so good against lefties?
Nothing wrong with that move.
The A's colors are green and gold.
Lefties are 4-15 off Ziggy
I’d take my chances with that rather than let Embree give up the inevitable run.
Fine but he was really locating everything.
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by ohtobe21likehuston on Jul 1, 2008 9:20 PM PDT up reply actions
Embree
It’s probably the Kotchman double that just happened talking, but he just makes me nervous every time he’s in.
He’s like a left handed Jim Mecir.
Yarth
Commence rocking myself gently in the corner while sobbing.
Ryan Sweeney: I probably irrationally embraced him before you did.
Probably because it would have been a third inning for him.
"Dispatch knuckleheadedness with Bond-like aplomb." –74mk
really
he’s due
"I never predict anything, and I never will." Paul Gascoigne, English footballer
by One won lost won on Jul 1, 2008 9:19 PM PDT up reply actions
Boo!
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by ohtobe21likehuston on Jul 1, 2008 9:19 PM PDT up reply actions
I feel like the "TO VLAD" part of that sentence is unnecessary
http://bocropleasestopswingingatbadpitches.blogspot.com/
by thejd44 on Jul 1, 2008 9:19 PM PDT up reply actions
Better yet
I wish someone else was pitching to Vlad right now.
by Tyler Bleszinski on Jul 1, 2008 9:18 PM PDT reply actions
Am I the only one who has no confidence in Embree...I am just never comftoable when he is in...
There is no A in OFFENSE!!
He's not very good. He's alright. He should be more of a mop up guy than a go-to guy though
But Geren isn’t smart enough to figure that out.
http://bocropleasestopswingingatbadpitches.blogspot.com/
by thejd44 on Jul 1, 2008 9:19 PM PDT up reply actions
From some of the responses i’d say no
by justarebelheart on Jul 1, 2008 9:19 PM PDT up reply actions
Ha ha..ok I feel better about myself then.....I would have hated to be the only one...LOL
There is no A in OFFENSE!!
I turn the volume down
in situations like this, so I don’t have to hear Hudler and Physioc felash each other if the Angels do something good.
truly
at least we have the correct announcers
"I never predict anything, and I never will." Paul Gascoigne, English footballer
by One won lost won on Jul 1, 2008 9:20 PM PDT up reply actions
The chances of Vlad at least hitting a fly ball here are
very, very good.
by Tyler Bleszinski on Jul 1, 2008 9:19 PM PDT reply actions
at time like this
I try to take comfort in the Halos’ hitting slump.
"optimism 1 pessimism 0" ~Dirk
by 149 on Jul 1, 2008 9:20 PM PDT up reply actions
Damn That Was Nearly K3
Pride And Poise!!!
by Raymond St. Martin (Saint) on Jul 1, 2008 9:20 PM PDT reply actions
Maaaybe Embree won't give up more than 1 run here
http://bocropleasestopswingingatbadpitches.blogspot.com/
by thejd44 on Jul 1, 2008 9:20 PM PDT reply actions
tie game....knew it
"I never predict anything, and I never will." Paul Gascoigne, English footballer
by One won lost won on Jul 1, 2008 9:21 PM PDT reply actions
Infield In Huh?
Pride And Poise!!!
by Raymond St. Martin (Saint) on Jul 1, 2008 9:21 PM PDT reply actions
...and his poor, dear old mother.
"God doesn't pay attention to your cute little hypotheticals." -- Jeff from LL
OK I'm officially on the Embree Sucks bandwagon.
"God doesn't pay attention to your cute little hypotheticals." -- Jeff from LL
Damn right it is
Bad decisions all around.
Gotta get some more runs top 9
Dammit. This really sucks.
Why are these games always so gut-wrenching?
Was Black Snake Moan a comedy or a drama?
by ohtobe21likehuston on Jul 1, 2008 9:21 PM PDT reply actions
I don't think he's been that bad.
Was Black Snake Moan a comedy or a drama?
by ohtobe21likehuston on Jul 1, 2008 9:22 PM PDT up reply actions
He pays little to no attention to situations.
His “Embree in the 8th inning no matter what” bullshit is hurting the team.
He still thinks Embree is an elite level reliever.
He’s not.
He’s pretty good sometimes. He throws hard and he’s a lefty.
He faces WAY too many right handed hitters.
agreed
Just not smart by Geren
He's a very personable, sweet, nice chimp. He's not going to be aggressive unless he's provoked. @('.')@
Bob Geren, eat a bowl of knives
And can somebody else please handle the bullpen from now on. Like maybe a retarded chimp. Ugh.
http://bocropleasestopswingingatbadpitches.blogspot.com/
by thejd44 on Jul 1, 2008 9:22 PM PDT reply actions
you rang?
He's a very personable, sweet, nice chimp. He's not going to be aggressive unless he's provoked. @('.')@
The A's will be lucky to get a win with this assclown managing
http://bocropleasestopswingingatbadpitches.blogspot.com/
by thejd44 on Jul 1, 2008 9:22 PM PDT up reply actions
Kotchman is hitting .364 versus lefties like Embree
not sure why Ziegler didn’t pitch the 8th. Makes zero sense.
"I never predict anything, and I never will." Paul Gascoigne, English footballer
by One won lost won on Jul 1, 2008 9:22 PM PDT reply actions
I can't blame Embree for that one.
A weak chopper got through the infield. Shit happens.
Is this Heaven? No, it's Iowa. -Field of Dreams
Setting up the D Play Would Have been good too;
Pride And Poise!!!
by Raymond St. Martin (Saint) on Jul 1, 2008 9:22 PM PDT reply actions
Don't we have a righty?
Why is Embree facing all these right handed hitters?
Might as well Jump! - Van Halen
Um, because Geren is bad at this managing thing.
There’s really no other explanation.
http://bocropleasestopswingingatbadpitches.blogspot.com/
by thejd44 on Jul 1, 2008 9:23 PM PDT up reply actions
The problem is
that the choice was between Foulke and Embree and sadly, I would probably take Embree.
Then again, Casilla would’ve been my first choice.
by Tyler Bleszinski on Jul 1, 2008 9:23 PM PDT up reply actions
Why would you take Embree?
Foulke has been better this year.
And the Angels are much more of a fastball hitting team than a whatever-slop-Foulke-throws hitting team
http://bocropleasestopswingingatbadpitches.blogspot.com/
by thejd44 on Jul 1, 2008 9:24 PM PDT up reply actions
Foulke strikes me as more hittable than Embree right now
I would’ve gone with Casilla or even Gaudin.
by Tyler Bleszinski on Jul 1, 2008 9:25 PM PDT up reply actions
I'd say Gaudin
Casilla has been shaky since his return from the DL.
Foulke doesn’t throw hard so he seems more hittable. The problem: People just crush Embree on a fairly consistent basis.
http://bocropleasestopswingingatbadpitches.blogspot.com/
by thejd44 on Jul 1, 2008 9:34 PM PDT up reply actions
I'd say Gaudin
Casilla has been shaky since his return from the DL.
Foulke doesn’t throw hard so he seems more hittable. The problem: People just crush Embree on a fairly consistent basis.
http://bocropleasestopswingingatbadpitches.blogspot.com/
by thejd44 on Jul 1, 2008 9:34 PM PDT up reply actions
In The Words Of Ken Macha:
Der Uh Em-Bu-ree Is Our 8th Inning Guy
Pride And Poise!!!
by Raymond St. Martin (Saint) on Jul 1, 2008 9:35 PM PDT up reply actions
Wear It Geren
Pride And Poise!!!
by Raymond St. Martin (Saint) on Jul 1, 2008 9:23 PM PDT reply actions
Embree
Before this at bat. Vlad was 4-10 against Embree.
Sample size, but come on!
I, for one, don't believe in sample-size caveats for individual hitter-pitcher PWNage
He's a very personable, sweet, nice chimp. He's not going to be aggressive unless he's provoked. @('.')@
FGN for short
I’m tempted to sign the petition.
Ryan Sweeney: I probably irrationally embraced him before you did.
Dinnertime mojo.
sourstuff, don’t forget to ask for an obscure Baby Sweeney stat next inning.
There's no textbook for how to treat a geriatric tapir.
Maybe some stats on a skank?
"God doesn't pay attention to your cute little hypotheticals." -- Jeff from LL
That's not usually what I notice first
Ryan Sweeney: I probably irrationally embraced him before you did.
oh yeah...
Pig Nosed Girl will get right on that.
"optimism 1 pessimism 0" ~Dirk
by 149 on Jul 1, 2008 9:24 PM PDT up reply actions
Isn't the Bay Area media notoriously soft?
After all, they let Dusty Baker get a pass for a decade.
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by thejd44 on Jul 1, 2008 9:25 PM PDT up reply actions
Embree more like Mecir
"I never predict anything, and I never will." Paul Gascoigne, English footballer
by One won lost won on Jul 1, 2008 9:24 PM PDT reply actions
That is a stretch.
Was Black Snake Moan a comedy or a drama?
by ohtobe21likehuston on Jul 1, 2008 9:26 PM PDT up reply actions
Aw crap.
pam5981: Patience is a virtue that I do not possess.
ohtobe21likehuston: But you're good at drinking and cussing. Two out of three ain't bad.
Wow
Zooks came really close to missing that ball.
by Tyler Bleszinski on Jul 1, 2008 9:26 PM PDT reply actions
Kotchman
Is a career .300 against lefties as well.
Come on Geren. Baseball-reference.com isn’t just for fans!
Thinking "LOB"
with both my insides and outsides…
Not yet prepared to cry.
"optimism 1 pessimism 0" ~Dirk
by 149 on Jul 1, 2008 9:28 PM PDT up reply actions
I hate that old school baseball mentality
that certain relief pitchers “own” certain innings. If you have better options, you start using them in the later innings.
by Tyler Bleszinski on Jul 1, 2008 9:28 PM PDT reply actions
The Gaudin disappearance needs to be explained.
Was Black Snake Moan a comedy or a drama?
by ohtobe21likehuston on Jul 1, 2008 9:29 PM PDT up reply actions
It's officially time to start swearing!
pam5981: Patience is a virtue that I do not possess.
ohtobe21likehuston: But you're good at drinking and cussing. Two out of three ain't bad.
I've been watching
but my internet has been down all evening
pam5981: Patience is a virtue that I do not possess.
ohtobe21likehuston: But you're good at drinking and cussing. Two out of three ain't bad.
Ah, makes sense
When my internet is down, I don’t hear the game at all. (Unless we’re playing the Mariners.)
"Dispatch knuckleheadedness with Bond-like aplomb." –74mk
This really, really, really sucks.
Was Black Snake Moan a comedy or a drama?
by ohtobe21likehuston on Jul 1, 2008 9:28 PM PDT reply actions
Oakland 3 and Bob Geren's Angels 5
F* You Embree and Geren
Thanks Embree
"I'm not going to buy my kids an encyclopedia. Let them walk to school like I did." -Yogi Berra
Game Over
It really is amazing that Geren decided to throw the game. Everyone on AN, everyone in the stadium knew that once Alan Embree entered the game, the game was over.
facepalm.jpg
Come, come, Zonis
These are Angels fans. Most of them don’t know who Alan Embree is now, much less when he entered the game.
Don't blame me, I voted for Ice Cream
Show of hands
Did EVERYONE see this coming when Embree came in? Just making sure.
Might as well Jump! - Van Halen
hand up here
Ziegler isn’t throwing like 98mph….his arm is okay, and he’s MOWING THEM DOWN!!
Embree, ....shit, ....Scioscia’s even batted against Embree, everyone knows his stuff.
"I never predict anything, and I never will." Paul Gascoigne, English footballer
by One won lost won on Jul 1, 2008 9:31 PM PDT up reply actions
ZOMFG
ZOMFGZOMFGZOMFGZOMFG
Excuse me while I swallow a few dozen sleeping pills.
Is this Heaven? No, it's Iowa. -Field of Dreams
Hey, save some for the rest of us
My oven’s electric and I have no toaster to throw in my bathtub.
Ryan Sweeney: I probably irrationally embraced him before you did.
Thank goodness, Geren's getting Embree out of there
before something bad happens.. :-(
"God doesn't pay attention to your cute little hypotheticals." -- Jeff from LL
click here tooo
tht was simply too predictable.
"I never predict anything, and I never will." Paul Gascoigne, English footballer
by One won lost won on Jul 1, 2008 9:30 PM PDT reply actions
you know what sucks
he’ll be back out there tomorrow in the same f’ing situation
what a joke
Im sitting here telling my girlfriend Embree doesn’t look very good and they should take him out. boooom
If i can see it how the hell cant Geren see it???
loan Geren your GF.
just a suggestion. Couldn’t hurt (Geren).
"optimism 1 pessimism 0" ~Dirk
by 149 on Jul 1, 2008 9:31 PM PDT up reply actions
ejmbree........is...washed.........up3
3
"The two of them deserve each other. One's a born liar, the other's convicted."
Geren sure loves his vets.
"We were s--, pathetic," Guillen growled early in spring training. "We hit too many home runs."
So how many times does Geren have to do this
Before he’s unemployed? It happens at least once a week where he completely blows it with his stupidity.
I’m willing to root for bullpen implosions on a regular basis if it means Geren is somewhere else before the end of the month.
http://bocropleasestopswingingatbadpitches.blogspot.com/
by thejd44 on Jul 1, 2008 9:30 PM PDT reply actions
Overall a poor manager
Not just with bull-pen management but overall I am not impressed with him at all
Alan Embree: the new Kiko Calero
Thanks, Bob.
The damn thing is, Garret Anderson absolutely stinks. So how does this happen?
Alan Embree is not very good
And he threw about 30 pitches before getting to Anderson
http://bocropleasestopswingingatbadpitches.blogspot.com/
by thejd44 on Jul 1, 2008 9:31 PM PDT up reply actions
The thing is
Embree was just fine in the first couple of months, when everyone was touting our bullpen
Stomper is a badass!
He wasn't that good then, either
He had a 4.91 ERA in May.
http://bocropleasestopswingingatbadpitches.blogspot.com/
by thejd44 on Jul 1, 2008 9:35 PM PDT up reply actions
Cut Kiko a break
At least he had multiple good years for the A’s. This is more like Jay Witasick.
Ryan Sweeney: I probably irrationally embraced him before you did.
Short of Gaudin I think some overestimate what we have in the bullpen.
I still wish Ziggy could have faced Kotchman, though.
Was Black Snake Moan a comedy or a drama?
by ohtobe21likehuston on Jul 1, 2008 9:32 PM PDT up reply actions
with you on the Kotchman idea
seems like a no-brainer.
"I never predict anything, and I never will." Paul Gascoigne, English footballer
by One won lost won on Jul 1, 2008 9:33 PM PDT up reply actions
He was just in one of those "dealing" modes that you don't see very often.
Was Black Snake Moan a comedy or a drama?
by ohtobe21likehuston on Jul 1, 2008 9:34 PM PDT up reply actions
Even that doesn't make sense
Lefty minor league hitters did very well against Ziggy. And how often does a reliever on any team pitch three innings? Everyone in this thread is just a flat out moron. No two ways about it.
The A's colors are green and gold.
Come on, mikeA. No need to call us all morons.
Some just have opinions that differ from yours.
Was Black Snake Moan a comedy or a drama?
by ohtobe21likehuston on Jul 1, 2008 9:37 PM PDT up reply actions
Opinions differ, whatever,
but the stridency of the opinions when they are not easy calls in the slightest is just flat out stupid. And that is a fact.
The A's colors are green and gold.
OK
Was Black Snake Moan a comedy or a drama?
by ohtobe21likehuston on Jul 1, 2008 9:43 PM PDT up reply actions
you're totally right. Geren's move worked brilliantly.
Oh wait, Embree sucked ass and was getting banged around like a screen door.
So you think Embree should have pitched the 8th inning, am I right?
First to a guy who hits lefties better than righties
Then to a switch hitter
THEN to the best hitter on the team, who is a righty?
yes, I do
And to the extent that is wrong, was their an obviously better choice? No. Ziggy had already pitched two innings and isn’t good against lefties. Foulke is just worse than Embree overall. Same with Brown. Casilla has struggled coming off an injury. And the matchups were good for the A’s even aside from all of that. Hence the stupidity of your remarks.
The A's colors are green and gold.
Agree to disagree then
You’re 100% correct.
Everybody that expected Embree to fail and then saw it happen is stupid. Not you.
Everybody that expected Embree to fail and then saw it happen is stupid. Not you.
Yes. You’ll notice that none of the AN posters who know what the they’re talking about were among the “everyone.”
The A's colors are green and gold.
Seriously, get off my ass.
That’s like 3 times in a row that you’ve made some kind of snide comment and insinuated that I’m stupid.
Chill out.
Everyone on this thread
makes hyperbolic over-inclusive statements.
"optimism 1 pessimism 0" ~Dirk
by 149 on Jul 1, 2008 9:40 PM PDT up reply actions
three Geren decisions I 100% disagree with
1. Letting Embree pitch to Vlad - just a bad percentage move all the way ‘round. Yes, I hate IBBs almost as much as I hate playing the infield in (#2) - but walking Vlad was absolutely what should have been done there.
3. Taking Embree out after the GA HR. I have never understood the conventional-wisdom reasoning that says to trust a pitcher in low-percentage-of-success situations, set him up to fail, and then take him out when there’s nothing at stake and he has a decent chance of just finishing the inning.
He's a very personable, sweet, nice chimp. He's not going to be aggressive unless he's provoked. @('.')@
yeah
Its happened way too often this year, release the guy and stop believing the illusion someone is going to sign that guy to a major league contract and get you a draft pick.
Thats ball is straight.
isn't there a need
for left handed relief pitching around baseball? We should trade him for 10 maple bats!
ohio roots
WTG Embree.....damn it!!! What is with the Angels scoring late in almost every game...
Embree never should have been in the game in this spot…...this had you could see it coming written all over it…....
There is no A in OFFENSE!!
We have one of the best pens in baseball
and Geren acts like Embree is the only pitcher we have…
"I'm not going to buy my kids an encyclopedia. Let them walk to school like I did." -Yogi Berra
That would've been a good idea.
"God doesn't pay attention to your cute little hypotheticals." -- Jeff from LL
On the bright side
Embree making Harden look spectacular tonight.
[crying like a baby]
"optimism 1 pessimism 0" ~Dirk
so who here
really wants to have a conversation with Geren? I want answers.
"He's a veteran. I trust him."
“Even though all the stats show him to be one of the lesser pitchers in our bullpen, I trust him.”
"We were s--, pathetic," Guillen growled early in spring training. "We hit too many home runs."
geren--that was just bad managing
kotchman hits lefties better—so why go with embree anyway. Then a switch hitter and then Vlad.
and then embrees thown 30 pitches by the time he faces the only guy he should have seen in the first place…and gives up a jack to him.
i want to die.
I hate Krod
And now he’s likely going to get a save opportunity.
+~~
Hate that little goggle dude.
"I never predict anything, and I never will." Paul Gascoigne, English footballer
by One won lost won on Jul 1, 2008 9:35 PM PDT up reply actions
Embree no longer has the 8th, I'm guessing
But the truth is that there weren’t any good choices. Casilla has been awful since coming off the DL. Gaudin, Foulke, and Brown aren’t special. So he didn’t have any real choice.
That said, I also hate the idea that Embree should have the 8th. I’d have handled it hitter by hitter. In a game this important, there’s nothing wrong with that.
Gaudin has been great all year
He should own that eighth inning.
by Tyler Bleszinski on Jul 1, 2008 9:36 PM PDT up reply actions
Nobody should "own" the 8th inning
That’s the problem—that kind of thinking. Except for your closer, you should just match your bullpen to the situation. It’s not just one-out lefties who should be used that way.
Hey good thing Geren took out our best hitter in case someone gets on!
But don’t worry, no one will.
"Loyal? I'm the most loyal player money can buy." - Don Sutton
Barton vs. K-Rod...
LOL
What about Barry?
"Barry who?" Forst said, and I felt like I was in the middle of a knock-knock joke.
did Hudler just gargle his own saliva
while responding to that change up. sorta oddly sexual
At least this is gonna be quick
pam5981: Patience is a virtue that I do not possess.
ohtobe21likehuston: But you're good at drinking and cussing. Two out of three ain't bad.
There has to be someone somewhere who can play instead of Barton
that we can sign as a cheap free-agent.
This is getting ridiculous
dor-K's mechanics are now even goofier than Vlad's
He's a very personable, sweet, nice chimp. He's not going to be aggressive unless he's provoked. @('.')@
so why does he get away with it?
(A: There is no God)
What a shitty way to lose a game :-((
Was Black Snake Moan a comedy or a drama?
by ohtobe21likehuston on Jul 1, 2008 9:38 PM PDT reply actions
Luckily I looked away before dumbass started his stupid routine.
Was Black Snake Moan a comedy or a drama?
by ohtobe21likehuston on Jul 1, 2008 9:38 PM PDT up reply actions
Exactly. The team has to score more than 3
Yes, Embree is the goat but overall the offense is still the major problem.
Still. We have scored a combined 3 runs in the last starts of Harden and Duke
The pen is pretty thin right now. I'm not sure there are a lot of options rather than Embree.
Ziegler wasn’t really an option.
You must not have seen Sunday's game
The only other guys would have been Casilla or Foulke. None appeal to me much.
by WaddellCanseco on Jul 1, 2008 9:43 PM PDT up reply actions
That's a backbreaker
Wasting a Harden start with a late-innings loss due to mismanagement. I am not optimistic about taking this series.
Ryan Sweeney: I probably irrationally embraced him before you did.
Adding to that.
Harden didn’t even have his best stuff tonight. It was more impressive that he worked through it. Pitiful that he can go 5 innings with nothing, and embree can’t go 1 with everything.
What about Barry?
"Barry who?" Forst said, and I felt like I was in the middle of a knock-knock joke.
How about walking Vlad?
Instead of letting him tie it up? Maybe snag a dp?
okay, when's the next game?
Tomorrow? Okay, forget this one.
"I never predict anything, and I never will." Paul Gascoigne, English footballer
by One won lost won on Jul 1, 2008 9:40 PM PDT reply actions
Radio only
so you don’t have to watch.
"optimism 1 pessimism 0" ~Dirk
by 149 on Jul 1, 2008 9:40 PM PDT up reply actions
At least the 9th was quick (though not painless).
No Tease.
pam5981: Patience is a virtue that I do not possess.
ohtobe21likehuston: But you're good at drinking and cussing. Two out of three ain't bad.
I kinda prefer the tease.
But then again, I frequent strip clubs.
"optimism 1 pessimism 0" ~Dirk
by 149 on Jul 1, 2008 9:41 PM PDT up reply actions
Wear It Geren:
Just once I’d like to see this android take the blame for SOMETHING…Anything!
Pride And Poise!!!
by Raymond St. Martin (Saint) on Jul 1, 2008 9:41 PM PDT reply actions
alright guys
i think i have a fundamental understanding of mojo adjusting in terms of pitching. But Embree apparently doesnt respond to it.
If Geren is going to make bone-head moves in July....
...what’s he going to pull in September? Can you imagine if this was the last week of September?
A's, baby!
LMAO @ Garrett Anderson
For blaming his strikeout in his AB before the homer on a beachball. His exact words, “I saw the kid running on the field and I couldn’t hit once I saw that.”
He's a Professional
and a Halo.
"optimism 1 pessimism 0" ~Dirk
by 149 on Jul 1, 2008 9:44 PM PDT up reply actions
Another LMAO!
One of the Fox Sports SoCal studio guys says K-Rod getting 40 saves before the All-Star break is, “a done deal”. He has 33 as of tonight with 11 games to play (only 1 day off). While it’s possible, I’d hardly call it “a done deal”.
That's baseball for you.
Embree has done quite well for us for a long time now, and has made Geren look brilliant on numerous occasions. He was due for a downer of an outing, and it’s not Geren’s fault. It’s just the law of averages. No blames for anyone, because Geren hardly ever gets credit for Embree doing well. We’ll get them tomorrow. Go A’s!
I musta been "blinky thinged"
what are these brilliant mirages of Embree innings of which you speak?
"optimism 1 pessimism 0" ~Dirk
by 149 on Jul 1, 2008 9:48 PM PDT up reply actions
Time and time again
on numerous occasions in the 8th inning, and a lot of last year in the 9th. Some games just weren’t meant to be. It happens.
by A'sfansince1970 on Jul 1, 2008 9:50 PM PDT up reply actions
last year counts for this year?
good to know.
"optimism 1 pessimism 0" ~Dirk
by 149 on Jul 1, 2008 9:51 PM PDT up reply actions
Uh, that interview, I'm having some problems here
Would it be so hard to ask him about the decisions in the 8th? You want to be nice to kids like Jaymee Sire or whatever her name is, but come on make an effort. This is the major leagues. Can’t we get a major league interview from this Comcast team.
Uh, No
You want to be nice to kids like Jaymee Sire
I’d prefer she was fired. If we’re going to have a chick asking stupid f-ing questions, she should be way hotter.
"optimism 1 pessimism 0" ~Dirk
by 149 on Jul 1, 2008 9:50 PM PDT up reply actions
I'd prefer it was a super-hot person
asking hard, smart questions… but no one asks me.
"optimism 1 pessimism 0" ~Dirk
by 149 on Jul 1, 2008 9:52 PM PDT up reply actions
I like a woman who is easy to please.
Have a great night (despite the loss).
"optimism 1 pessimism 0" ~Dirk
by 149 on Jul 1, 2008 9:55 PM PDT up reply actions
Seems to be an overall lack of talent this year.
More product, less quality.
Oh, and, Kuiper, the mike is over here! Talk into it! Quit mumbling off-mike. Geez.
by NotJohnnyDamon on Jul 1, 2008 10:17 PM PDT up reply actions
you keys to god's ears.
"optimism 1 pessimism 0" ~Dirk
by 149 on Jul 1, 2008 9:49 PM PDT up reply actions
Baron Davis going to the Clippers...Geren blowing the game for the A's...
What’s next? Texas sweeping the Yankees? The Giants winning a home game? My world is falling apart!
A's, baby!
And don't forget...
Soon as they finish that stadium in LA the Raiders will be gone, too. Cranky McFeeble “commitment to eggsalad” Davis will be out the door with money flowing from all pores.
by NotJohnnyDamon on Jul 1, 2008 10:09 PM PDT up reply actions
Do we need Embree??
I know a team can never have enough bullpen help but with Ziggy and the boys….Embree better step things up. Easy to say after he S!$ the bed like tonight I guess.
by A'sFanInNoMansLand on Jul 1, 2008 9:53 PM PDT reply actions
Gone to the gym
need to manage some anger, before I take it all out on Jaymee.
"optimism 1 pessimism 0" ~Dirk
Barton and this anemic offense
is as bad as Embree. Somehow, Billy needs to acquire some offense. I have no ideas on who is realistically available, but it just seems apparent when Barton, Sweeney, and Suzuki come up in the ninth and you have no hope of any of them hitting a home run.
Embree The Great!
I knew once he (Embree) came in the game it was over for the A’s. I think Geren is blowing in the wind. BLOW OUT OF HERE!!!
When AE came in...
I turned to my wife and said, “What is Geren doing? We’re not up by five? Game over, we lose.“
Unfortunately, I was right.
I think I just verp’d. That annoying vomity-burp.
by NotJohnnyDamon on Jul 1, 2008 10:00 PM PDT up reply actions
Don't give up on Embree
One bad game does not a career or season make.
Career Totals 36 40 4.49 814 4 0 0 25 - 720.1 687 389 359 87 19 262 655
We don’t need another bat. Frank will be back soon.
This loss really hurts
After ziggy gave 2 perfect innings and Elly gave us the lead to have AE give up 3 big ones just makes me want to vomit repeatedly on myself…....yick!
What's upsetting...
...is that it’s a game against your rivals and your 6 outs away from being only 2.5 out. Why not go for broke. Throw everybody in to get those outs. Don’t leave some poor guy out there to get shelled when he doesn’t have it. I don’t think it’s not too early to say every game counts now.
A's, baby!
by Coach Cleats on Jul 1, 2008 10:01 PM PDT up reply actions
Agreed…this is a momentum game as well. Every game against your rival and division leader should be played as such. Frustrating!
by A'sFanInNoMansLand on Jul 1, 2008 10:03 PM PDT up reply actions
Having Embree pitch is one thing
But someone explain why you would A) pitch to Vlad and B) have the infield in.
Just plain dumb is all I can say.
My roommate who is a Yankee Fan said, “What a moronic move”
Jersey
I wonder where I could purchase a Geren jersey…..urp…urp…urp.
by A'sFanInNoMansLand on Jul 1, 2008 10:04 PM PDT reply actions
Voice of reason here.
It’s ONE GAME people! It’s July 1st! It’s a marathon, not a sprint! The A’s will win tomorrow, Dana Eveland will pitch a gem, and order will be restored. We have won funky games from the Angels (the sulk off) so maybe it was their turn. See you all tomorrow, and for goodness sakes, calm down! We still have half a season left!
by A'sfansince1970 on Jul 1, 2008 10:11 PM PDT reply actions
Yeah it's one game but
A game we needed and should have won.
It’s one thing to lose 11-1 to the Giants even though worthless Blanton was pitching but it’s another to blow a game with suspect managerial decisions. Yes, we are fans on a message board but even a deaf, dumb and Blind mute would have to common sense to walk Vlad and failing that, not have the field drawn in. Hindsight is 20/20 but I and many others wondered why he didn’t walk Vlad before it happened.
Would Ziggy pitching another inning have hurt?
He was very economical so I doubt it
There are many more games left but if you consider Blanton pitching every 5th start then we need to win 3 games with the other starters to compensate.
Fire Geren Now......
Light Embree on fire!! Embree, Geren: You have now achieved sucktatude status.
"Mount it? I already did. Oh! You meant on the wall?!!
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