Diamond Mind
No, not a projection, but it is Rosterbation. The question is; what should the A's do right now as regard to the team. We are currently enthralled in a battle with the Angels, 3.5 games back. Both teams have good pitching, both teams have bad hitting, but the Angels offense has been better than ours and that has been the difference in the standings.
It is obvious that we need to improve the lineup, and who knows when Frank Thomas will come back, or if he will need to be rehabbed in Sacramento for a time before then. The A's appear to have a sizable chunk of change available due to the huge drop in payroll, but at the same time, that money appears to have been earmarked for draft picks and international free agents, as seen by the expected signing of Inoa for $4.25 million.
Likewise, if we do make a deal and trade for offense, we will have to sacrafice something in return, being either money, prospects or both. And the question is if we can have a good enough offense this year, if the pitching can continue to be stellar, can we make the playoffs and win the World Series this year, and would it be worth partially scrapping or hurting the reubuilding project by doing so?
As I see it, there are four sides in this discussion.
1) Improve the Team - The A's need offense like Cher needs Hair. If we make the trades nessisary and bring in poeple like Jason Bay, Xavier Nady, Brian Giles, Aubrey Huff, ect... the offense immidietly improves and we become a force to be reconed with.
2) Continue Building - This year was supposed to be a rebuilding year anyways, and we should not hinder that. We might be doing good, but its smoke and mirrors. We should deal away our overvallued/temporarly healthy talent and convert Duchscherer and Harden into massive prospect deals that will make 2010 and beyond look like the 1970's.
3) Improve but Not Prospects - Improve the team yes, make the trades that will bring in talent but only at a cost of money or low grade prospects, and not any of our core prospects in the minors that figure to be a key part of our future. After all, Duke, Harden and Blanton won't be here anymore by 2010 will they? Who takes over the rest of the rotation? And we already have enough problems on offense.
4) Improve but Not Money - The team is currently using that money to get those draft picks and international free agents that they need. Save that money for the Inoas, Hunters, Smoaks, and Leons of the world instead of wasting millions on Brian Giles. Make trades, but only if they help for the future and don't cost a lot of money, even if it means dealing some of our excess prospect depth at positions of stregnth.
So what do we do folks? Who do we target. As I said above, I think Jason Bay, Xavier Nady, Brian Giles and Aubrey Huff would be nice acquisitions, especially Jason Bay, as he is cheap and plays all three outfield positions if needed. Acquiring two of them, a 1B and an OF would instantly help us for the future. If Cleveland is going to tear it up, could we grab Grady Sizemore? Do we want Adrian Beltre if the Mariners are willing? Do we pay the price for Halliday from Colorado? Do we want Jack Cust's younger brother, Adam Dunn?
Because remember that right now, the A's are near or at the bottom of baseball on the offensive side of things. If that doesn't change, it won't matter what the pitching side does.
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The Angels offense is better?
Hm. That’s funny. You would think that a better offense would score more runs than a worse one. Or perhaps have a higher OPS+.
The Angels offense doesn’t even have higher RAW numbers than the A’s offense, and that’s without even accounting for the fact that they play in a neutral park and the A’s play in a pitchers’ park.
The difference in the standings is because the Angels are lucksacks. In no part of the game of baseball have they played better than the A’s this season.
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by PaulThomas on Jul 1, 2008 4:31 PM PDT 0 recs
To Hammer this point home which is often ignored
The Angels are 33-15 in one or two run games. The A’s, 17-22. And yes before someone chimes in the Angels have a really good bullpen but so do the A’s, so there’s not that much of a difference anyway.
by iamawesomer on
Jul 1, 2008 5:12 PM PDT
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Pitching Rotation Question
Here’s my question: what do the A’s do about the rotation? Not now, but as Eveland and Smith blow by their previous innings pitched highs? Greg Smith is at 105.3, his previous high was 148. Eveland is at 97, his previous high appears to be 140. It seems to be pretty widely accepted that increases of more than 30 IPs from one year to the next for young pitchers is dangerous to their development. With that in mind, it would not be unreasonable to limit smith to about 180 IPs and Eveland to about 170 IPs. Giving us about 70 IPs for both remaining this year from here on out. Given how effective they’ve been, the A’s would seemingly need those two to make the playoffs and certainly they would help the team in the playoffs.
Ideas?
The best I can come up with would be strategically skipping their starts and going to kind of a six man rotation with Gaudin in the rotation, thereby limiting Eveland and Smith’s IPs. Is there someway to do that without throwing off Harden, Blanto, and Duke’s routine? There’s also a possibility that Duke could have some issues with the number of innings he’s going to be asked to pitch, though he did have some higher inning years in 2001 and 2003.
A kitten bats around a ball of yarn but what he's really saying is, "You know I can't knit, motherf'er." That is one foul mouthed kitten. - Mitch Hedberg (RIP)
by RayRay59 on Jul 1, 2008 4:56 PM PDT 0 recs
there is a way
You just have Gaudin make a spot start for each of them for every other spot in their rotation. If it happens that Gaudin is forced to start with less than 4 days rest, you just bump it to every 3rd start (or some combination of the 2)
by GusanoQuemador on
Jul 1, 2008 5:04 PM PDT
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They'll probably stand pat
All those guys you mentioned will take playing time away from Barton, Gonzo & Sweeny and that’s just not an advisable course of action in my opinion.
Per the post above, the Angels have been extremely lucky. I say just let it play out, regress to the mean and hope Pythagorean theory of run differential holds up and allows us to pass the Angels in the standings
by GusanoQuemador on Jul 1, 2008 5:01 PM PDT 0 recs
How about a move that will do 1,3, and 4?
And that will in all likelihood actually make the A’s money while helping out the team’s performance? All it will take is veteran minimum salary and a willingness to bite the bullet. We should sign Bonds even with all his baggage. After all if he becomes a problem we can just cut him when Thomas gets back.
Even with no practice, could he really be worse than Emil Brown?
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by vignette17 on Jul 1, 2008 5:12 PM PDT 0 recs
I just published my own fanpost about this...
but I think that Beane will at least look into the options on the market to improve the offense somehow. He’s ultra competitive, and it doesn’t seem like he’s itching to deal Harden, so it seems like the A’s pitching will keep them in the race for awhile. He’s got to be at least as frustrated as we are whenever the team loses 1-0 or 2-1 after one of our guys pitches his butt off only to get an “L” for the effort.
I see him being mostly patient with the young bats and in a semi-holding pattern while Hurt/Sweeney get healthy, however, if he sees a rental-type of player that can provide a moderate boost to the offense without really destabilizing the depth of the farm system (Holliday, Bay, Nady) or the clubhouse (Bonds) then I think he’d highly consider it. In my post I advocated Casey Blake for this reason.
by Taj Adib on Jul 1, 2008 5:29 PM PDT 0 recs
Number 2
Number 2, number 2, number 2!!!!!! I’m under the belief that it is smoke and mirrors thats holding us together. What happens when the the trade deadline passes and harden goes down 2 weeks after it, and is out the rest of the season? He loses almost all of his trade value,again, and then it makes it almost impossible to move him for anything good after the year. I love rich just as much as everyone else on this site however we’ll get more trading him now while he has a year and a half to pitch for another team rather then just one season. Would you rather sell the farm for half a year of CC or one and half years for harden? I hope someone sell us the farm and we reap the benefits for years to come.
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by nickatt7 on Jul 1, 2008 8:49 PM PDT 0 recs
Bay, Nady, Brian Giles, Adam Dunn...
Don’t expect a huge offensive upgrade there. Keep in mind it was just days ago we were discussing how much stronger top to bottom the AL is than the NL.
I’d expect each of those guys to be humbled in a switch to the AL, and suffer a .100+ point drop in their OPS, and that’s not factoring in our pitcher-friendly park.
Look at what has happened to Miguel Cabrera (a far better hitter than the above-mentioned four).
I want nothing to do with any of the big-name NL hitters on the market.
"The painting was a gift, Todd. I'm taking it with me." -Wedding Crashers
by notsellingjeans on Jul 1, 2008 10:50 PM PDT 0 recs
Bay, Nady, Brian Giles, Adam Dunn...
Don’t expect a huge offensive upgrade there. Keep in mind it was just days ago we were discussing how much stronger top to bottom the AL is than the NL.
I’d expect each of those guys to be humbled in a switch to the AL, and suffer a .100+ point drop in their OPS, and that’s not factoring in our pitcher-friendly park.
Look at what has happened to Miguel Cabrera (a far better hitter than the above-mentioned four).
I want nothing to do with any of the big-name NL hitters on the market.
"The painting was a gift, Todd. I'm taking it with me." -Wedding Crashers
by notsellingjeans on Jul 1, 2008 10:50 PM PDT 0 recs
I agree that a League switch may hurt a NL guy for a while
with that said who if anyone from the AL would be a better fit if the A’s were going to go after a trade?
by A'sfaninNC on
Jul 2, 2008 7:25 AM PDT
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Money will not be spent
I’d love to see Wolf break out the dollars to bring in a few major hitters- but guess what folks, it ain’t going to happen. Like it or not, our new owner has no interest in building a winning team here, he is simply looking forward to the future Fremont cash trough. If we win, and I hope we do, it will be because we have some great rookies are performing well beyond what they were expected to do. Personally, I think Wolf-man has forgotten the A’s in Oakland.
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by greenmachine on Jul 2, 2008 5:16 AM PDT 0 recs
I don't agree.
Wolfe has encouraged calculated payroll moves in the past, and we just spent a Prince’s ransom on Inoa. Plus he’s convinced Billy walked to the DomRep this week. What are we—$20 million under last year’s number?
I think if Billy came to him loaded with a deal Billy believed in, Unca Lew would pull the trigger on it.
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by The Dogfather on
Jul 2, 2008 11:21 AM PDT
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