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Game Wrap: Angels 5, A's 3

If there was ever a game that showed how far the A's need to go from where they are currently to where they want to be, it would be tonight's contest. From start to finish it just seemed like the Angels were the better team. They were better prepared, they executed their game plan to perfection and they were able to make adjustments that the young A's seemed incapable of doing. Whether it was Angel starting pitcher Jon Garland throwing to the A's hitters' weaknesses (namely, by just throwing strikes to get 8 strikeouts), to the Angel offense capitalizing on an uneven outing from Greg Smith (6 IP/3 walks/3 K's/7 hits/5 runs allowed), there was no doubt that the better team won tonight and extended their lead in the division to 5 1/2 games.

Sure, the A's offense eventually woke up in the 8th as the team finally got on board on a flukey opposite-field homerun by Travis Buck...and it was sure nice to get something going against K-Rod as Cust finally made contact with a pitch and homered to lead off the 9th (after he struck out every other at-bat this game) and Chavez followed that up with a long double to bring the tying run to the plate. But after Ellis grounded out, Barton struck out (looking, more on that later) and Buck walked, K-Rod got Cargon to wave at an off-speed 3-2 pitch that probably should never have been thrown.

You know, sometimes the A's youth and their take-and-rake hitting approach will get exposed and both were on full-display tonight. While the savvy Angels were using a very liberal strikezone to their advantage by getting into favorable counts against A's hitters, the young A's failed to recognize the expanded zone and failed to adjust, continuing to take borderline pitches in two-strike counts and racking up the K's (10 total on the game), thereby wasting whatever offensive-momentum they could muster. Just gotta hope that Geren, Van Burkleo and company will have a stern talking-to with these guys to get them reacquianted with a lesson that every 8-year old little leaguer knows by heart: protect the plate with two strikes.

In closing, I'm hoping that the A's get one thing out of this series that they've already lost fairly convincingly: an idea of what it takes to win this division. The Angels have outplayed the A's in virtually aspect of  the sport the last two games. This should be a good wake-up call to the A's that more focus and more adjustments are needed in order to make up those 5 1/2 games as the season progresses.

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Van Burkleo comment from ESPN Board agrees with you

I mean, really. What is he teaching them? He should make himself useful and buy some pledge so they can wipe the dust of their bats.

SpazBilly Post #2: 8:53 pm Quote | Report Violation
He is teaching them what Billy wants them to be taught just like the rest of the puppets.

Walks > hits

Walks are not better than hits. That is why we lost tonight. Our hitters tried to walk on base instead of swinging for the downs

by Trainman on Jun 7, 2008 9:15 PM PDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Adding a further comment after reading your very good wrap up

The hitters are doing what they are taught to do which is WRONG as evidenced by tonight.

Had the Angels seen all those hanging sliders and meatball fastballs, they would have put up 10 runs even as bad as they have been hitting.

This is why this OBP thing is a little overrated. At least when they get on base, drive them in, not take, take, take and “OH shit, I struck out looking” That does not win games

by Trainman on Jun 7, 2008 9:20 PM PDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

3-1 count to Car-Gon

is the perfect example, except I put that one on Geren because he should have been signaling to CG to absolutley fucking swing!!!!!!!!!

Before that, Barton cannot let that 3-2 pitch go by w/out a swing…...typical A’s bullshit.

by mrod on Jun 7, 2008 9:43 PM PDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

This is mind numbing baseball..

over a long season the A’s will win plenty of games with this approach with regards to taking pitches and getting walks, but gawd, as soon as they face a tough pitcher who throws strikes and keeps the ball low, man, it is all over. They try to take pitches all night long and they just end up looking like boring chumps. Strikeouts, weak grounders, pop outs, and on and on. This taking pitches approach works great for the Red Sox who have two great power hitters (ortiz and ramirez) to slug home all the pitch takers, but for the A’s they have a whole team of extreme pitch takers. This is some boring a_s sh_t!

by pedoman on Jun 7, 2008 9:25 PM PDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

My post from the last thread:

My real problem tonight besides bad fielding
not blocking the palte, etc…..

Is the A’s do not play solid fundamental baseball. Not advancing the runners when the odds are on our side, less than 1 out when trying to get back in the game, and late in the game……..why did Geren not try to have Davis even fake running, let alone hit and run, especially when Car-Gon had a 3-1 count!

Chances are K-Hole is gonna throw a fast ball, which he did. And if Geren is on top of it, he sends Raj whether or not Gonzales hits the ball or not. It just seems like a waste to even put Davis in at that point…..why not put some added pressure on the pitcher, especially when the A’s have a history of making life tough for K-Hole?????

Maybe it is just me but sometimes I feel that Bob Geren lacks imagination and preparation in games like these and Sciosia is a step ahead of him just about every single time in close games……......Fuck to holy hell, I am so frustrated~~

Alright, time to breathe…….......Go A’s!

by mrod on Jun 7, 2008 9:26 PM PDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Thank you!!!!!!

I feel vindicated Trainman…......bless your heart.

by mrod on Jun 7, 2008 9:32 PM PDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

You are welcome

I listen, watch every A’s game since 1989 when I came here.

I watched the McGwire, Canseco teams. Geronimo Berroa etc etc. No matter what team they put on the field over the years, I never miss a game but BOY, do I get negative and pissed off when they lose thru stupidity and looking at strike 3 a thousand times and watching potential home run balls for strikes early in the count just pisses me off to no end.

I cannot and will not post positive comments when I feel the opposite. I am sorry if people get offended by negative comments but I am being passionate about the way I feel.

by Trainman on Jun 7, 2008 9:38 PM PDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Here here sir......

I’m right there with you. Once in a while I’d like to see someone on this team light a fire under everyone’s collective ass and say,”Let’s do this mf$%*g thing for God’ sake!!!!!!!!! Yeesh!

by mrod on Jun 7, 2008 9:41 PM PDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

I totally agree with your points

There is no excuse. You must get Davis to 2nd. He needed to try and steal that base. What was the point of putting him in? What if Gonzalez would have hit a hard single, or a bloop over the infiels??. Davis does not score from 1st, he does from 2nd in such a situation.
While Gonzalez has been hitting doubles its less likely as the Angels would have played a no doubles defense.

by Yellowhorse on Jun 7, 2008 9:41 PM PDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

I hate to admit it....

But the Angels are the better team right now. It stinks losing two in a row to them and falling 5 1/2 back. Hopefully tomorrow the A’s come back.

All in all, I still like a lot of what I am seeing. This is still a very young team and they will take their lumps against a veteran ballclub like the Angels.

Good points by all.

by KCa's on Jun 7, 2008 9:27 PM PDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Yes, The Angels are a better team

but there are things that could have been done to win this game tonight which have already been stated.

Rich Harden knows he is in deep shit if he gives up more than 2 runs tomorrow.

This Ervin Santana seems to own us everytime he pitches against us an while I agree, he has good stuff, we will probably sit there and most every hitter will look at meatballs and swing at balls or just strike out looking.

When Santana pitches against us, he throws strikes so you would think after tonight that the hitters might learn to swing like Emil Brown does with better results of course.

by Trainman on Jun 7, 2008 9:33 PM PDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

They are just better

at executing in situations where it is needed…........I don’t agree that they r a better team in general…...

by mrod on Jun 7, 2008 9:34 PM PDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Fosse mentions it everytime

and as an ex-catcher it’s very obvious, but when is the coaching staff going to teach Kurt to not set-up so far in front of the plate when receiving a throw home. He fails to block the plate everytime!

by faninphilly on Jun 7, 2008 9:28 PM PDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

baseballgirl and I and others

were discussing this very point as soon as the runner was called safe. Suzuki simply needs to set up a step behind the plate if he’s going to go out to get the ball, so that he is actually blocking home plate, and making the runner slide around the plate to try to score. Suzuki was upset at the call, but it was a good call and it was his doing that the runner was safe. Not a hard adjustment.

But also, the A’s NEED to give Suzuki some days off. Bowen is a perfectly capable backup, Suzuki is banged up, and he looks tired and slow. Playing Bowen a little more would keep BOTH catchers sharper. Rocket science, it not is.

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by Nico on Jun 7, 2008 10:50 PM PDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Completely agree on your 2nd point as well

Bowen is a great backup catcher (can actually go out there once a week and put together some good ABs) and we’re wearing Kurt down

by faninphilly on Jun 8, 2008 8:21 AM PDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Left in 8th. I come back in just now

and open up Yahoo Sport MLB to check the score and recap and I am greeted with mound shot of dumbass K-rod doing his thing. #$@#$#%

alaska A

by ak_A on Jun 7, 2008 9:30 PM PDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

That was mild compared to some of his displays

I just have a feeling that TB is going to come in and sweep their arses in Anaheim next week.

by Trainman on Jun 7, 2008 9:35 PM PDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

That would be awesome.

by drmmerchk on Jun 7, 2008 9:54 PM PDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Hope so mate

But before that the A’s need to open a can of whoop ass on the those Angel bitches and make a statement: “We will not be shoved around and have our lunch money taken!!!”

Go out and kick them in the balls tomorrow boys!

by mrod on Jun 7, 2008 9:38 PM PDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

TB has a very good young team as well all know

Their hitters don’t sit there looking at strike 3. Kazmir is pitching lights out at the moment and they are playing good team baseball. They dealt it to the Angels in their ballpark and I expect it to happen again.

I live in Angel country around a bunch of bandwagon Angel fans that is why I felt tremendous when I went to the 4th game of the series that we won in Anaheim (the game that Cust gave up 5 unearned) and got great joy in watching the entire two rows of Angels fans clear out and go home during the inning where we scored 8 runs. There were still 3 innings to go but they gave up and left. When I go to a game and even if the A’s are losing, I never leave until the last pitch is throw.

Typical OC fans.

Screw that team.

by Trainman on Jun 7, 2008 9:43 PM PDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

And

screw Sciocia!!!!!

by mrod on Jun 7, 2008 9:44 PM PDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Excellant game wrap Taj Adib.

The A’s were Soth Balled two nights in a row and you just don’t realize it yet, Mike Scioscia’s style of playing baseball with a plan to win.

It is striking how very young these A’s players are, and how successful they have been in this season so far.

by 44FAN on Jun 7, 2008 9:47 PM PDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Geren's comment of the day

“guys just weren’t seeing the ball well tonight”

LOfuckingLOUD

Yeah Bob, they watched 83,445 meatballs go by

by Trainman on Jun 7, 2008 9:49 PM PDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

well, these were not a good two days...

but, the A’s lost by a total of 4 runs over two games. When we get the Sweeneys, Hurt, Devine and Casilla back, we’ll roll over these chumps. Patrol Craft is a keeper… CF for the next 10 years. He just has to increase his 2b/AB to one in every three and we’ll be good.

Enjoy your 5.5 game lead while you can, Halo fans. It ain’t gonna last.

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by FoolshGame22 on Jun 7, 2008 9:56 PM PDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

I am encouraged when I remember that

we’re looking at the standings after the Angels have finished winning 6 in a row, and we still have 3 key relievers and 2 key right-handed hitters, out. The A’s will still be heard from in the AL West. That being said, I still think most on here have underestimated the Angels and that Oakland will ultimately be playing for the Wild Card – which should be in reach, thanks to the showings to date by NYY, CLE, DET, and SEA, who were supposed to be in far better shape than they are.

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by Nico on Jun 7, 2008 10:54 PM PDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

+1

While I don’t think we can win the west this year, with a few Beane moves here and there, along with Big Frank T and the Sweeneys, we can play darkhorse to the playoffs like the Angels did when the world was focused on Hattey hitting walk-off bombs later to be featured in Moneyball.

We’re still in it—Beaten and bloody, but still standing like Rocky.

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by oaklandSMASH on Jun 8, 2008 2:18 AM PDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

One side note on that is

I’d say Frank T. and R. Sweeney but I wouldn’t say “Sweeneys” as I’m just not convinced that Mike Sweeney’s knees will allow him to play through without surgery or a heck of a lot of rest. I wouldn’t be surprised if his window with the A’s was a short one.

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by Nico on Jun 8, 2008 8:53 AM PDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

One thing I do love is Carlos Gonzalez is an absolute STUD

Incredible that his first 7 hits are doubles and I give him a pass on his K to end the game but I went back and looked at that 3-1 pitch which was a double or homer waiting to happen. You could see that Assclown Frankie saying to himself, “I am not going to throw that pitch again”

I was actually hoping that Geren would give him the green light on 3-0 because no one would have been expecting that pitch to be swung at.

Anyway, CarGon needs to remain here and I am sure will be the centerpiece of this team for years to come.

And guess what, he doesn’t have any walks yet and I don’t give a shit if he ever walks.

by Trainman on Jun 7, 2008 9:56 PM PDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

3-0 count - take a risk and have CarGo swing!

Seems like a good risk and i doubt that the Angels would have expected him to have the green light on 3-0. K-Rod’s fastball was hittable tonight as evidenced by Cust & Chavez. Everybody knew he was going to throw the fastball 3-0.

by Flash G on Jun 7, 2008 10:21 PM PDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

I was calling for a green light 3-0,

especially with Suzuki on deck (very bad matchup), but the 3-0 pitch was a pitcher’s strike and should have been taken anyway. Was the 3-1 pitch to Gonzalez such a cookie? From section 117, it looked like it was on the outside corner. And the 3-2 pitch was just K-Rod at his best.

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by Nico on Jun 7, 2008 10:57 PM PDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Chad Gaudin is still not happy about not starting

OAKLAND - In the A’s clubhouse, it sometimes appears as if a smile is just as much a requirement of the Oakland uniform as are the white cleats. Chad Gaudin is no exception to this trend. The pitcher wears the smirk and the “all is good” attitude well - unless he’s talking about his least favorite topic.
A mainstay of Oakland’s starting rotation since the start of the 2007 season, the right-hander was moved back into the bullpen to make room for Rich Harden on May 7. Gaudin didn’t keep it a secret that he was not pleased with the move, and not much had changed exactly one month later Saturday.

“I’m still not happy,” Gaudin said before batting practice. “I was not happy when it happened, I’m not happy now, and I never will be.”

Feelings aside, he insisted the way he goes about his current role as a reliever has to do with an even bigger role.

“I have to be a good teammate,” the 25-year-old said. “For me to do that, I have to do what I have to do.”

Since moving to the bullpen, Gaudin has pitched in nine games and is 2-1 with a 2.45 ERA. The A’s have especially taken advantage of his endurance, evidenced by the fact he has tossed at least two innings in five of his nine relief appearances.

“I never knew it was coming,” Gaudin said of the role reversal. “It affects you a bit mentally because when you’re a starter, you don’t necessarily have to gear up every day, but as a reliever you have a chance of coming in every day.”

Quite the change for a guy who was used to pitching every five days since the beginning of the 2007 season. Gaudin made 40 consecutive starts and was 14-15 with a 4.32 ERA over that span. After struggling in his first two starts this season, going 0-1 with a 7.20 ERA, he notched a 3-1 record with a 2.42 ERA in his four subsequent starts.

“I know my abilities as a starter,” Gaudin said. “But I also know you never know what’s going to happen, so I’m doing the best I can in the position I’m in right now.

“Still doesn’t change the fact I’m not happy about it.”

by Trainman on Jun 7, 2008 10:02 PM PDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

When you copy/paste someone else's work

you should attribute it.

Don't blame me, I voted for oaktoon.

by FreeSeatUpgrade on Jun 7, 2008 11:14 PM PDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Who could respect him...

if he was happy about it? Noone likes to be demoted.

by IM4Oakgal on Jun 7, 2008 11:19 PM PDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

In spite of him probably being likely to pitch better as a starter right now...

...am I the only one who thinks the story reads kind of strangely? Twice it mentions him being a starter since 2007 but the way it’s written comes off sounding like he’s been starting in the Majors for years.

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by Flashfire on Jun 7, 2008 11:25 PM PDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

I like his honesty.

He doesn’t hide the fact that he’s unhappy, which is as it should be. At the same time, he continues to do his job and isn’t a whiney-baby about it. I think that’s exactly the right response. Good for Chad.

formerly known as mdl

by iglew on Jun 8, 2008 3:17 AM PDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

I say when Brown, Casilla, and Devine come back

move Chad Gaudin back into the rotation and move Kentucky Fried Blanton to another state….........nothing personal but I think Chad has alot more upside at this point in his career than O”l Joe does…..

by mrod on Jun 7, 2008 10:10 PM PDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

People love Blanton as an innings eater

but he is also a hitting machine for the opposition as well as a pig at the local buffet I am sure.

My personal opinion is Gaudin when healthy is a much better pitcher than Joe Blanton. He gets more swings and misses and serves up less meatballs.

I would be pissed if i was Chad having to watch others start ahead of me when I know I have better stuff.

by Trainman on Jun 7, 2008 10:14 PM PDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

I think I heard that Devine has had to be shut down

His ligament is more serious that Casilla’s who I also heard is progressing well and may go on a rehab soon.

by Trainman on Jun 7, 2008 10:15 PM PDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Would not be too upset to see Crosby and Suzuki get a day off tomorrow

Put Petit in at SS give him a game

Crosby, Brown and Suzuki are 0 for 26 against Santana.

I am sure Sukuki gets the day off and Petit needs a game and if they are going to ever guve Bobby a day off, then tomorrow is a good one since he is 0-13 against Santana. I know prior stats don’t mean he will be 0 for his next 13 but they are an indication.

by Trainman on Jun 7, 2008 10:12 PM PDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

0 for 26...

does seem to be a good case for them having a day off.

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by FoolshGame22 on Jun 7, 2008 10:13 PM PDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

and, despite the small sample size...

I’d say 0-13 is a pretty good indicator.

Foolsh, the most insane regular poster on AN since oaktoon left - salb

by FoolshGame22 on Jun 7, 2008 10:14 PM PDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Makes sense to me

Suzuki needs more days off.

Bobby is all right, but has he had ANY days off yet this season? Not that I can remember. Unless he’s out to beat Tejada’s record, I think now is a fine time to give him a rest. Maybe pinch-hit him later in the game, depending on how it’s going.

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by iglew on Jun 8, 2008 3:20 AM PDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Nope

Crosby has started every game.

Kind of puts paid to those ridiculous “he’s injury prone” assertions, dunnit.

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by PaulThomas on Jun 8, 2008 10:08 AM PDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

OT: Moron of the Year Award (But he won't be able to collect it)

Man jumps from plane with no parachute, dies

Saturday, June 7, 2008

(06-07) 16:51 PDT Duanesburg, N.Y. (AP)—

A 29-year-old man leaped out of a plane at 10,000 feet with a camera but no parachute Saturday. His body was found next to a house with a damaged roof, police said.

Sloan Carafello of Schenectady, who was observing on the flight, followed an instructor, student and videographer out the door, wearing no skydiving gear, officials said.

Police said they did not suspect foul play but would not elaborate.

Robert Rawlins, pilot and owner of the Duanesburg Skydiving Club, said he was flying the single-engine plane and had begun to close the door when Carafello jumped.

His body was found next to a house west of Albany.

by Trainman on Jun 7, 2008 10:20 PM PDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Sounds like Carafello was not aptly named

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by Nico on Jun 7, 2008 10:59 PM PDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Brown may be activated tomorrow

Oakland RHP Andrew Brown, on the DL since undergoing an appendectomy on May 20, may be activated Sunday, according to manager Bob Geren. ... RHP Santiago Casilla (elbow) is scheduled to pitch a simulated game Sunday for the A’s.

by Trainman on Jun 7, 2008 10:22 PM PDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Tonight was just a rotten night.

We had MVP seats in section 118 but people in that section kept getting up and blocking our view which put me in an irritable mood. Then seeing the A’s make so many mistakes was just the topper. Then we made the mistake of leaving before the fireworks show and waiting and waiting and waiting for the shuttle to take us to the BART station as the bridge was closed. Bummer of a night.
As for the A’s… as always we need a big bat. Without Thomas or Sweeney the A’s simply don’t have enough power.

by IM4Oakgal on Jun 7, 2008 11:17 PM PDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Man, it's like a angry mob in here

Or Three Angry Men, at least. Ugh. For my part, I had a great time with my kids, saw a reasonably engaging game, enjoyed an A’s comeback surge, and watched some fireworks while laying on the most awesomest lawn in the world. My team has bettered my fears and piqued my hopes, they’re pitching well every time, mostly, and the games are good, mostly. I’m delighted.

Don't blame me, I voted for oaktoon.

by FreeSeatUpgrade on Jun 7, 2008 11:25 PM PDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Yup, that's some kickass lawn.

Section 122 was a good place to be for the game, too.

by mikev on Jun 7, 2008 11:27 PM PDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

The best lawn

I love to sit there for fireworks.
I wonder how I can hire the grounds crew to come out to fix my lawn?! :)

by streetfan on Jun 7, 2008 11:42 PM PDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

ClayWoodrocks

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by iglew on Jun 8, 2008 3:30 AM PDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Usually I have fun at the games too.

This one rubbed me the wrong way. I hate that the team lost two to the Halos. I’m glad that you had fun with the kiddies. we just saw fireworks on May 17 at the Rivercats and we decided not to watch.
Oh and good point about the pitching. The guys are doing well in that area.

by IM4Oakgal on Jun 7, 2008 11:35 PM PDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

I think it's fairly safe

to ignore the ranting above…

If you take what Trainman says seriously, the A’s never make an out on a ball in play or on a caught stealing. Only by strikeout.

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by PaulThomas on Jun 7, 2008 11:43 PM PDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

I think it safe to ignore tha--

Wait, but I didn’t. {dies of terminal confusion}

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by Nico on Jun 8, 2008 12:12 PM PDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Jack Hannahan?

I like Cindi. A. She never pretends to know more than she does. B. She has unbridled enthusiasm for her "Hotties," and isn't afraid to show it. -IM4Oakgal

by Nico on Jun 8, 2008 12:13 PM PDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Oof, just watched most of the replay (not the comeback)

that was the worst offensive performance of the season. Garland had 24 Ks coming in… 8 tonight… pathetic.

The A's colors are green and gold.

by mikeA on Jun 7, 2008 11:58 PM PDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Pitchers shouldn't feel as if...

they need to pitch a shut-out to get a win. That’s too much pressure on the pitchers. I hope that Thomas heals well…and can get some big hits when he returns.

by IM4Oakgal on Jun 8, 2008 12:01 AM PDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

How bout them ANGELS ! ! !

Not that NorCal doesn’t have a lot to be proud of, a 2nd place team that can’t sell out when their rivals are in town, crappy weather, a city with an inferiority complex ( compared to San Francisco) and a stadium where ugly tarps take up two thirds of the seating capacity. I will be there for beer fest, looking for the best seats, along with vagrants and liquor stores, I’m sure I will find all of the above. The best thing about that TARPTASTIC stadium, is the fact its bart close. There are many distractions here in SoCal, yet we still draw 3 mil. a year, while having to contend with Padre and Dodger fans ( and Disneyland, beaches, and mountain resorts, along with Sea World, Knotts and Magic Mountain) whats your excuse ?

YOU DON'T KNOW THE POWER OF THE DARKSIDE.....

by halofolife on Jun 8, 2008 1:20 AM PDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

For all the educated Halo fans out there

there has to be one or two of these absolute losers in the crowd to sully their names.

You’re like the little kid who tags along with the gang during a fight just to put a weak ass punch on someone after the melee is over.

You post on our site so early in the morning just to give yourself evidence that your team is better because our sleeping fans cannot log onto the internet.

Well, I’m awake and I’m calling you out.

Please, show your face around here and continue posting stereotypes that have nothing to do with baseball games, and me or one of my bros here at AN will be here to tell you how much of a jackass you are.

And if you need to, post a link of my response on HH so they know how absolutely stupid you are making the Halos and their true fan base out to be.

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by oaklandSMASH on Jun 8, 2008 2:55 AM PDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

that my friend is in your face!

Nice job SMASH. Very succinctly expressed.

by Brian in 317 on Jun 8, 2008 7:39 AM PDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Thanks for the complement

I adhere to the rule that you shouldn’t post anything that you wouldn’t actually say to someone. If someone came into my home and said things about my team, I would tell them exactly what I posted.

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by oaklandSMASH on Jun 9, 2008 12:12 PM PDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

No rebuttals, huh, than that must be an admission of truth.

YOU DON’T UNDERSTAND THE POWER OF OUR DOMINANCE.. GO HALOS

YOU DON'T KNOW THE POWER OF THE DARKSIDE.....

by halofolife on Jun 8, 2008 1:46 AM PDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Hey douchebag

Honestly, did you expect someone to post this late at night? I couldn’t sleep tonight, so I logged onto to AN only to read your drivel.

First off, your two posts have nothing to do with baseball. You are just a city-bagger, which is just sad for a fan of a team who represents Los Angeles, while having a ballpark in the decaying urban spittoon named Anahiem.

Second, unlike Rev or 44 who actually post something of worth, however asinine we make it out to be, they usually post with an intelligent point. Honestly, are you one of those guys who vote in elections, then when faced with an open debate, respond with comments like, “well, yeah—but you still suck, so eat it!!” Here at AN, we usually like to hear some sense with our humor as opposed to some dumbass lurker who probably became a bandwagon fan of a team, and can’t name a DH before Vlad.

Finally, if you think about California as a woman and considered that it has a great top half and great attractions like Disneyland at its southern part, what does that make Anaheim? That’s right, Anaheim is the asshole of California. It isn’t because the city is bad or even an indication of the quality of your fans (because despite how we feel about the rivalry, there are good-spirited and knowledgeable fans on both sides of the field). It is because know-nothing blowhards like yourself post on other team’s blogs with nothing to say but, “we’re better than you,” without any substantial or pertinent information to back up your argument.

Your team may have been dominant over ours tonight, but the level of intellegence it took for you to post your dumbass comments on our site confirms the level of idiocy some of your fans have when it comes to the game.

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by oaklandSMASH on Jun 8, 2008 2:42 AM PDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

That's a bizarre and somewhat disturbing metaphor,

but if followed to its logical conclusion, it only proves that every part of California is beautiful.

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by iglew on Jun 8, 2008 3:37 AM PDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Hey oaklandSMASH

I was trolling AN earlier, viewing posts how we are all fair weather fans, and leave early, it was all in jest. And yes there are many Halo fair weathers, that cannot remember beyond ‘02. I am not one of them, I have been a life long fan of the Angels, and I was hoping for a rise such as yours which proves my point. Your right, NorCal is the top half of a woman, and lord knows, men have no interest in the bottom half. Our dominance was not just tonight however, it goes back a few years. As for everything else I said, Oakland is one ugly ass city, your weather sucks, and your stadium… well if it was working for you guys, Fremont wouldn’t be your next step. The best thing about the tarps, is the fact it hides thousands of unsold seats. P.S. I work graveyard down here in SoCal, that’s why I posted late. I realize up north you only have two shifts, cow tipping-and milking ! !

YOU DON'T KNOW THE POWER OF THE DARKSIDE.....

by halofolife on Jun 8, 2008 3:03 AM PDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

You're a liar

there’s no way you were a fan before ‘02 … and how did you get a graveyard shift when you’re only 14?! You know what gives it away? The reference to Star Wars in your sig line. What a clown. You probably just got back from the prom, so I’m going to cut you some slack … too bad you had nothing else to keep you busy at midnight on Prom night … but by reading your posts, I can she why she’d had enough of you by then.
It’s always obvious to me which ones still live with mom, just by the way they write. She would be disappointed with you Jr. ... now get your sorry ass to bed.

I needed a team so I wouldn’t turn into one of the eighty million pink hat-wearing Bud Light-drinking mulleted idiots at Fenway.

by Vacafan on Jun 8, 2008 6:31 AM PDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

What a waste, Vacafan -

With your special super-power, you could have chosen x-ray vision or the ability to fly, and what did you choose? “Can tell who lives with mom by the way they write.” Interesting, but not so useful really.

I like Cindi. A. She never pretends to know more than she does. B. She has unbridled enthusiasm for her "Hotties," and isn't afraid to show it. -IM4Oakgal

by Nico on Jun 8, 2008 9:09 AM PDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

I know!!

But, you see, we don’t really choose our “gifts”. LOL. It’s just a gift I have, like it or not.
And it’s not just “how they write.” It includes “how they act”, “how they dress”, and “what they say.” Amazing, I know, but I wouldn’t wish it on anyone. With such a gift comes much responsibility. And it usually includes telling some momma’s boy to shut the hell up. :-)

I needed a team so I wouldn’t turn into one of the eighty million pink hat-wearing Bud Light-drinking mulleted idiots at Fenway.

by Vacafan on Jun 8, 2008 1:53 PM PDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Ah. I see someone who's on his way to banning

And I’m not talking about the city near Palm Springs.

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by Flashfire on Jun 8, 2008 7:43 AM PDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

I'm a fair-weather moderator so...

He gone! Covered with a tarp, as ‘twere. And I didn’t wait until the end of the thread to do it either, simply because I didn’t want to get caught in rush-hour traffic.

I like Cindi. A. She never pretends to know more than she does. B. She has unbridled enthusiasm for her "Hotties," and isn't afraid to show it. -IM4Oakgal

by Nico on Jun 8, 2008 9:02 AM PDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Once again, you are using false stereotypes to generalize your flawed argument.

Even though you’re banned, I want you to read this. Maybe you can get a new SBN handle like “halo4life” or something.

First off, don’t dismiss an urban center like Oakland and don’t disrespect farmers. Your regionalism may pass, but your classism is definitely sickening. With a backwards attitude like that, you are going to stay on the late shift.

The reason I have to call you out as an Angel non-lifer is that you obviously weren’t around when the A’s were winning championships and pennants while your team was doing absolutely nothing. Remember, the only constant in baseball as in life is change. If you come posting something like this again the only thing that won’t change is how ignorant you sound or how much of your foot gets jammed into your mouth. If you were a pre-Moreno fan, then you might understand.

And where do you get off saying your team has been dominant for the last few years? If you have been paying attention to baseball for the last few years you would know that our rivalry is great because there has been a great give and take between our two teams. We’ve won some titles, your team has too, but don’t kid yourself in thinking of the Angels as the Yankees of the west.

Despite all the hard working graveyard shift people out there, it seems that there have to be a few like yourself that have dead braincells as well.

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by oaklandSMASH on Jun 8, 2008 12:20 PM PDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Out looKing

Firstly, I suggest everyone ignore the posts from an idiot who can’t even spell his own screenname correctly (there’s an “r” in “for”, btw, for any other halos fans over here gloating).

Secondly, the worst offender on the stiking out looking category isn’t one of the youngsters, it’s Cust. Yes, so he leads the majors in walks and therefore he knows the strikezone, blah, blah. He obviously DOESN’T know the strikezone based on the number of times he is out looking,

I have no issue with Jack striking out a lot…. so long as he is out swinging for the fences in his own inimitable style. And out looking once a game MIGHT be excusable until you get a hold of the umpire’s strikezone but, really, Cust is regularly striking out looking two or three times a game! Totally inexcusable.

by itsgemme on Jun 8, 2008 6:45 AM PDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Several Times this season Cust has

swung at the first pitch and hit a home run.

What a novel concept!!!

He might not admit it but he is trying to be a little more aggressive which he should be.

You hit your way to victory, not WALK it.

by Trainman on Jun 8, 2008 10:07 AM PDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Ignoring walks when you're evaluating Jack Cust

is like ignoring batting average when you’re evaluating Ichiro.

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by PaulThomas on Jun 8, 2008 10:12 AM PDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Actually, his MO isn't knowing the umpire's strike zone

It’s knowing what he can hit. Kinda like a McGwire or a Bonds, he has a very distinct eye for know what’s in the zone that he can hit. Unfortunately, there is a sliver of strike zone that can be exploited because he will not swing at a pitch he can’t drive.

by Rickeyfan on Jun 8, 2008 1:59 PM PDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Something we need to correct real quick

Our record against Division (from the SF Chronicle)

East: 12-7

Central: 13-7

West: 7-13 (2-3 vs. Mariners, 2-4 vs. Angels, 3-6 vs. Rangers)

by Trainman on Jun 8, 2008 10:13 AM PDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Jeez, folks. They lost a couple of games in which they weren’t very sharp. It happens over the course of a 162 game season. There’s no need need to hang the hitting coach, overstate the value of blocking the plate and draw the conclusion that the A’s need to overhaul their approach to the game.

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by Monday Fan on Jun 8, 2008 10:14 AM PDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

True, false, and true, IMO

Suzuki’s problem is a correctable, fundamental problem that can, and should, be corrected. Otherwise I agree with you.

I like Cindi. A. She never pretends to know more than she does. B. She has unbridled enthusiasm for her "Hotties," and isn't afraid to show it. -IM4Oakgal

by Nico on Jun 8, 2008 12:14 PM PDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

I can respect that, but...

...the issue is really to Suzuki’s footwork and setup, not his plate blocking (or lack of it). He needs to be in proper postion to make the tag. Whether or not he blocks the plate doesn’t really matter. Most of the plate blocking that takes place is technically against the rules and it leads to unnecessary injuries to both baserunners and catchers. I prefer the Ramon Hernandez method of appying the tag without trying to be a linebacker. Yes, it may allow a small number of runs to score that might otherwise be stopped but it helps to keep our starting catcher off the disabled list. I have the same opinion about outfielders crashing into fences. Most of the time, the risk is not worth the reward.

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by Monday Fan on Jun 8, 2008 12:55 PM PDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

No argument here - I'm talking about his footwork/positioning

I like Cindi. A. She never pretends to know more than she does. B. She has unbridled enthusiasm for her "Hotties," and isn't afraid to show it. -IM4Oakgal

by Nico on Jun 8, 2008 1:05 PM PDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

I was initially inclined to defend Suzuki

On the grounds that Crosby’s throw was several feet off the baseline, and Kurt couldn’t have caught the ball and blocked the plate without breaking himself in two.

But the real problem was, as you and Fosse said, his positioning. Crosby threw the ball where Suzuki asked for it – the problem was he asked for it a bit too far from the place he needed to be to apply the tag.

by Faust on Jun 9, 2008 5:17 AM PDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

One thing that impressed me about the Angels

Greg Smith has basically shut down the running game – and then the Angels come in and steal a couple on him, resulting in at least one extra run. I mean, f’ing Rob Quinlan stole on him. (He did pick a man off, but that’s just because his move catches guys by surprise even when they’re not trying to run, so I wouldn’t hold that pickoff against their running game.)

It appeared that the Angels’ advance scouts figured out when to take the chance against Smith – when he takes the leg high but looks home. I’m sure Greg and the A’s will address that problem, but no other team had figured that out or taken advantage of it.

That team really irks me.

by Faust on Jun 8, 2008 12:14 PM PDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

What I've seen with Smith is that

he picks off guys when they are just taking their secondary lead, but when they actually “run on him” they are usually successful. Not sure why they can read his move when they’re stealing but not when they’re not stealing, but that appears to be the case so far.

I like Cindi. A. She never pretends to know more than she does. B. She has unbridled enthusiasm for her "Hotties," and isn't afraid to show it. -IM4Oakgal

by Nico on Jun 8, 2008 12:16 PM PDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

6 SBs against so far

I hadn’t realized it was that many – although with 7 CS (not to mention 8 pickoffs) you can’t really say they are “usually” successful, and also you do see quite a few guys actually stepping back to the bag as he goes to the plate. Still, it seems some guys are either reading him well or doing some lucky guessing.

by Faust on Jun 8, 2008 12:25 PM PDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

7 CS? You're sure none of those

is amongst the 8 pickoffs? I don’t think Smith has erased 15 baserunners, has he?

I like Cindi. A. She never pretends to know more than she does. B. She has unbridled enthusiasm for her "Hotties," and isn't afraid to show it. -IM4Oakgal

by Nico on Jun 8, 2008 1:06 PM PDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

I was looking at mlb's stats

Here.

Wouldn’t you assume that the official stats would count an out in either the CS or PO column, but not both?

by Faust on Jun 9, 2008 5:07 AM PDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

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