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Glen Kuiper & CarGon

I had hoped that Glen Kuiper's attrociousness would take care of itself it getting him fired or somehow relieved of his duties. The fact that this is the third or fourth year that we have had to endure his torture is remarkable. Compounding that with the fact taht we replaced Papa, who while not a great broadcaster is remarkable compared to him. As such us A's fans must rally some kind of campaign to rid this blight from our beloved team. I will be the first in this campaign as a season ticket holder by sending an email to the A's demanding change, I hope other take my lead and join in this effort.

Secondly, CarGon is not a very good nick name for Carlos Gonzales. It feels like we are forcing the issue. Either we have to wait for a good nickname to come on its own or revert back to Gonzo. I am just not a fan of the nick CarGon, it sounds like someone stole a Chevy.

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Wrong

Duane would be emminently better than this schmuck. Dumbass.

"Not in your wildest alcoholic nightmare would you ever imagines such events unfolding!" Bill King

by Buck Turgidson on Jun 7, 2008 9:07 PM PDT up reply actions  

Hey, I wasn't calling you a dumb-ass

I should have wrote schmuck, dumbass, etc.

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by Buck Turgidson on Jun 8, 2008 8:56 PM PDT up reply actions  

CarGo, CarGon...

Patrol Craft… I prefer the latter, though I doubt it will prevail.

Foolsh, the most insane regular poster on AN since oaktoon left - salb

by FoolshGame22 on Jun 7, 2008 8:53 PM PDT reply actions  

AN doesn't even call Blanton by his real nickname...

at least, the one his teammates use, so just pick one you like and stick with it.

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by FoolshGame22 on Jun 7, 2008 8:55 PM PDT up reply actions  

Which is the one his teammaets call him?

Cupcakes?

RagingHarden: Yeah if you get 20 starts out of me I'll be shocked. Like, I'll wreck my drawers.

by walk off bunt on Jun 7, 2008 9:02 PM PDT up reply actions  

Breezy

Foolsh, the most insane regular poster on AN since oaktoon left - salb

by FoolshGame22 on Jun 9, 2008 11:50 PM PDT up reply actions  

Patrol Craft.

stat-addled alien overlord

by salb918 on Jun 7, 2008 9:12 PM PDT reply actions  

+1

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by DMOAS on Jun 7, 2008 9:18 PM PDT up reply actions  

His armed presence in the Central Garden does inspire confidence.

The meaning of life is not so much 'found,' as it is 'made.' --Opus

by The Dogfather on Jun 8, 2008 11:56 AM PDT up reply actions  

Translate the article with babelfish translation.

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by DMOAS on Jun 7, 2008 9:45 PM PDT up reply actions  

lolz

on the Patrol Craft….....I was wondering and now that I know I can only be extremely satisfied.

"The two of them deserve each other. One's a born liar, the other's convicted."

by SwampyD on Jun 8, 2008 10:03 AM PDT up reply actions  

I can't stand Vince Cotroneo.

I am shocked to read that he has twenty years experience as a baseball announcer. I don’t think he understands that fans listening to the radio can’t actually see the action. I hate when he takes over the play by play, I never have any idea what is happening, he doesn’t tell any good stories, he doesn’t give accurate descriptions and you can almost hear him watching while your waiting to find out what the hell just happened.

As for Car Gon, I think it needs work. His new name should probably have something to do with all the doubles he keeps hitting.
Here is my list.
-2nd gear
-Go-2
-Cargo

Feel free to make in fun of me.

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by jjham15 on Jun 7, 2008 10:09 PM PDT reply actions  

Gonzalez drops deuces all over the field

Wait, maybe that’s his dog. I wonder if he has one.

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by Flashfire on Jun 7, 2008 10:34 PM PDT up reply actions  

Agree about Vince

I’ll mute the radio and listen to Hudler (if I’m forced to take the Angels feed) for the 3 innings that Cotroneo takes over the pxp. Or better still, watch the game in silence.

You’re exactly right, he doesn’t seem to grasp that fans don’t see what he sees, or at least he has no feel at all for what fans need to hear if they can’t see the action. He also doesn’t seem to realize there’s nothing fans hate worse than being “surprised,” especially in a bad way – that is, being led by the tone of voice or the verbal explanation that something is going to happen that then develops differently. If a “groundball up the middle” is really a routine play for the second baseman, it shouldn’t sound like a hit off the bat. A booming double off the wall shouldn’t sound like a routine fly ball at first. And then there’s the matter of the questions that don’t get answered. Line drive base hit to right field, runner stops at second. Why? Did he get a bad jump? Did he have to hold up? Was it just hit right to the RF so there wasn’t time to go first-to-third? Good luck finding out.

by Faust on Jun 8, 2008 11:37 AM PDT up reply actions  

I actually liked Vince

when he took over for Kuiper on TV for a weekend a couple weeks ago. He talked a little bit too much (probably just used to talking on the radio, so that’s forgiven), but when you can see the play he’s talking about, he’s not so bad. He made Fosse more tolerable, too.

I can’t stand Kuiper usually. It makes my ears hurt when he’s grammatically incorrect and/or he f*cks up on someone’s name, the count, the play, or whatever else he messed up on.

"No matter what I talk about, I always get back to baseball." -- Connie Mack

by GreenSocks on Jun 9, 2008 10:39 AM PDT up reply actions  

I sent an email to ComCastSportsNetWhatever

Saying I liked Vince because he actually sounded interested in the game whereas Kuiper is a cure for insomnia.

Why is it that Kuiper can’t (pause)
seem to (pause)
string together (pause)
a full sentence?

It also bugs me that he sounds like he is talking off-mike more often than not. When natsound (stadium noise) drowns out the announcers, and there are only 10 people in the stands, it doesn’t bode well for keeping interest up. If you are not staring at the TV, good luck figuring out what is going on in the game if you’re listening to him.

What I would love to do is feed the radio broadcast into the TiVo box so I can listen to radio and watch the game with the pausing, commercial-skipping, goodness.

by NotJohnnyDamon on Jun 10, 2008 10:03 PM PDT up reply actions  

I like Patrol Craft, too

It won’t stick, but it’s certainly different, and it has a particular history behind it.

“CarGo” and “CarGon” are utterly cliched and generic constructions at this point. It was kind of interesting when this style of nickname started (did it start with “A-Rod”?) but it’s been done to death.

by Faust on Jun 8, 2008 11:42 AM PDT up reply actions  

Patrol Craft

"The two of them deserve each other. One's a born liar, the other's convicted."

by SwampyD on Jun 8, 2008 12:47 PM PDT up reply actions  

CarGon is not a word

I’m ok with C-Gon or Patrol Craft because of the funny circumstances surrounding those. CarGo makes the most sense otherwise.

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by PaulThomas on Jun 7, 2008 11:26 PM PDT reply actions  

As usual...

I agree with mikev! CarGo, people. CarGo.

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by Kelly on Jun 8, 2008 6:43 AM PDT up reply actions  

CarGo...

Is just worng IMO. His syllable is Gon… his name isn’t Go zalez. It’s pronounced GON zalez.

by IM4Oakgal on Jun 8, 2008 6:06 PM PDT up reply actions  

CarGon

rolls off the tongue better than CarGo. I always think of that old commercial; CARGON TAKE ME AWAY!

by IM4Oakgal on Jun 7, 2008 11:38 PM PDT reply actions  

I would guess that 80% of the AN membership

doesn’t remember those commercials.

Seriously, do they even still make Calgon? I don’t think I’ve seen it since the 1970s.

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by iglew on Jun 8, 2008 3:44 AM PDT up reply actions  

LOL

yeah, I am older than dirt.

by IM4Oakgal on Jun 8, 2008 6:04 PM PDT up reply actions  

Yes, but are you "stronger" than dirt?

“New Ajax….laundry detergent ….”

And do the letters L.S.M.F.T. mean anything to you?

The meaning of life is not so much 'found,' as it is 'made.' --Opus

by The Dogfather on Jun 9, 2008 9:37 AM PDT up reply actions  

Well, young-un, it stands for:

“Lucky Strike Means Fine Tobacco,” at least to really ol’ folks.

The meaning of life is not so much 'found,' as it is 'made.' --Opus

by The Dogfather on Jun 10, 2008 6:21 AM PDT up reply actions  

Have you been hanging around the troughs near A Gate?

Otherwise, no—on the internets, they’re all big ol’ Phillies Blunts.

The meaning of life is not so much 'found,' as it is 'made.' --Opus

by The Dogfather on Jun 10, 2008 5:22 PM PDT up reply actions  

LOL

I don’t remember that one…but I’ve never smoked. I do remember “Mrlboro tastes good like a cigarette should” though.

by IM4Oakgal on Jun 10, 2008 11:31 PM PDT up reply actions  

Or was that Winstons?

I can’t keep my cancer sticks straight.

by IM4Oakgal on Jun 10, 2008 11:33 PM PDT up reply actions  

SIMPLY PUT Kuiper and Cotroneo both BLOW!

Kuiper hasn’t improved whatsoever and although Cotroneo has the fact that he’s been in the business for 20 years and sucks this bad speaks volumes. It’s frustrating to be an A’s fan. Ownership/management is so inept. If it weren’t for Beane, this franchise would EASILY be the worst in the MLB.

by 33SwisherSweet on Jun 8, 2008 12:11 AM PDT reply actions  

riiiiiight

"The two of them deserve each other. One's a born liar, the other's convicted."

by SwampyD on Jun 8, 2008 12:46 PM PDT up reply actions  

Sarcasm blows too buddy...

Without Beane we are the Royals/Pirates

by 33SwisherSweet on Jun 8, 2008 1:25 PM PDT up reply actions  

Instead of CarGo

how about Storage? Or Luggage.

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by Scottbass on Jun 8, 2008 12:39 AM PDT reply actions  

lolz

"The two of them deserve each other. One's a born liar, the other's convicted."

by SwampyD on Jun 8, 2008 10:04 AM PDT up reply actions  

Carry on?

Carrion? Carryin’ the team?

How about “Gonzalez”?

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by Nico on Jun 8, 2008 12:19 PM PDT up reply actions  

... my wayward sun?

"Evidently, a large number of people said, 'We really need more vermin at the ballpark, Artie.'" - Nick (AN), 10/7/07

by doctorK on Jun 9, 2008 1:12 PM PDT up reply actions  

son

epic fail

"Evidently, a large number of people said, 'We really need more vermin at the ballpark, Artie.'" - Nick (AN), 10/7/07

by doctorK on Jun 9, 2008 1:13 PM PDT up reply actions  

No, no... no fail...

The wayward sun is the one that gets in Emil Brown’s eyes while leaving the opposing outfielders (and Carlos) alone.

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by Poppy on Jun 10, 2008 10:05 AM PDT up reply actions  

Carlos Gonzalez = El Nino

The Venezuelen Ken griffey Jr., The Kid = El Nino.
Griffey was his favorite player as a kid and that’s who he modeled his game after.

by BaseBandit on Jun 8, 2008 3:17 AM PDT reply actions  

The kid who only hit doubles

As I was young and first choosing books to read on my own I read a lot of Matt Christopher books. This one could have its cover photoshopped and be fodder for Carlos’ nickname.

"First Zito and now DJ? The Giants are like A's landfil." - a paraphrase of Since72.
Also, Todd Linden has a .231 lifetime average and a 66 career OPS+, chill Linden fans.

by Athletics fan and runner on Jun 8, 2008 7:18 AM PDT reply actions  

el nino

el nino hacerlo doubles solamente.

"First Zito and now DJ? The Giants are like A's landfil." - a paraphrase of Since72.
Also, Todd Linden has a .231 lifetime average and a 66 career OPS+, chill Linden fans.

by Athletics fan and runner on Jun 8, 2008 7:19 AM PDT up reply actions  

jason...

if you actually email the A’s you may want to proofread your ish first.

"The two of them deserve each other. One's a born liar, the other's convicted."

by SwampyD on Jun 8, 2008 10:00 AM PDT reply actions  

I tried babelfish on the first paragraph.

It was remarkable.

The meaning of life is not so much 'found,' as it is 'made.' --Opus

by The Dogfather on Jun 8, 2008 12:01 PM PDT up reply actions  

eh :)

"The two of them deserve each other. One's a born liar, the other's convicted."

by SwampyD on Jun 8, 2008 12:48 PM PDT up reply actions  

Bring Greg Papa Back

Kuiper is very painful on the ears. I cannot tell you how many times it sounds like he is yawning during the game. I’m serious. The Giants quickly picked Papa up after the A’s let him go. I really enjoy listening to him on Raider games and he was pretty good at baseball. He needs to come back over to the east bay.

by jax a's fan on Jun 8, 2008 12:31 PM PDT reply actions  

I miss Papa, too!

Cotroneo isn’t great but he isn’t horrible either. He has improved a little bit since he arrived a few years back. I think it stands out more when you listen to Ken Korach and how incredible he is and then listen to Vince afterwards. You go from “awesome and captivating” to “mild, sorta dull, but passable”.
Plus, we were all so spoiled by The Great One…...Senor’ King…

p.s. My nickname for Carlos Gonzalez is “The Gonz” or “Pachuco”.

by mrod on Jun 8, 2008 12:52 PM PDT reply actions  

How about "Carloz"?

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by Nico on Jun 8, 2008 4:17 PM PDT up reply actions  

Clutch Cargo!

Of Johnny Quest fame. He might have to get a few more clutch hits, but I’m optimistic.

by DiegoSegui on Jun 8, 2008 9:07 PM PDT reply actions  

DBacks

I recall reading in an article about Beane’s meeting with the AZ GM that he was being refered to as:

CGon. pronounced “See-Gone”

It's just more exciting with Billy Beane running the team.

by ru155 on Jun 9, 2008 6:55 AM PDT reply actions  

Right

Beane was talking to him and couldn’t figure out who this Seagon guy that Byrnes kept talking up was, because he had never heard of a guy named Seagon in the D-backs system.

Your 2008 Athletics: It's Nothing Personal.

by PaulThomas on Jun 9, 2008 10:07 AM PDT up reply actions  

Ken . . . Ken Seco

That reminds me of when I was listening to a game on the radio in September of 85 and my sister asked “who’s that Ken Seco guy”?

by Midori1967 on Jun 9, 2008 1:17 PM PDT reply actions  

Cargon seems fine to me...

Rhymes with Argon.

Jeremy was safe. He jumped over the tag.

by mrrickyg on Jun 9, 2008 2:56 PM PDT reply actions  

Your post

does not educate me one iota on what makes Glen Kuiper atrocious? It would be nice to agree with you if I knew some of your points.. I personally don’t think he’s all that bad. With that said, I only watch the A’s, so I don’t have anyone to compare him to.

by sf drift king on Jun 9, 2008 2:58 PM PDT reply actions  

So you don't pick up on his verbal tics, eh?

So I guess he seems OK to you. So there are other people who watch, though. So they tend to have different preferences. So it turns out some of them like it when you vary the word that you use to start your sentences.

Your 2008 Athletics: It's Nothing Personal.

by PaulThomas on Jun 9, 2008 4:21 PM PDT up reply actions  

Make a drinking game out of how many times...

- He says “folks”
- Doesn’t call balls/strikes/outs/anything for more than one batter
- Gets the play wrong
- Calls plays for the opposing team with more vigor than ours
- Yawns

Chances are you’d be passed out before the fifth (um, inning that is).

by NotJohnnyDamon on Jun 10, 2008 10:13 PM PDT up reply actions  

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