Open Thread: Game 60 - A's vs. Tigers
by baseballgirl on Jun 4, 2008 11:08 AM PDT
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PrintDetroit Tigers at Oakland Athletics, Jun 4, 2008 12:35 PM PDT
Wow! It seems like it has been a very long time since the A's won the first two games of a series and were in line for a sweep, but here we are!
After winning both of their previous games via the walk-off hit (yes, even the unorthodox infield single last night counts as a hit), this afternoon the A's turn to Justin Duchscherer in an attempt to steal the whole series, and remain 3 1/2 games behind the can't-lose Angels, who are playing some T-ball team from Seattle again today.
I say that with complete understanding of the frustration that Mariners' fans are feeling about their season to date, and I imagine it's the same for the fans of Detroit, who have had to watch maybe the best lineup in baseball struggle game after game after game through the first sixty.
I firmly believe that the only thing keeping the A's from a similar fate so far has been their unbelievable, amazing, out-of-this-world pitching, which has been covering for the offense most of this year, and battling even harder recently after the loss of Thomas and the Sweeneys. A symptom of deep offensive trouble (for both teams!): Last night's game in which twenty-two walks were issued and eleven innings were played, and the final score went into the books as a paltry 5-4.
However, there is something to be said for scoring just enough to win, and it's hard to argue with this week's results. It's also hard not to look on the bright side of the Cust/Ellis/Buck homers on Sunday, a Barton homer Monday, and a Chavez homer last night. If any of those power surges can be repeated on a semi-regular basis, things might get interesting in the AL West head-to-head match-up this weekend.
But the A's need to win again today, and they're going to have to beat yet another LHP, as streaky Nate Robertson faces off against Duchscherer.
LET'S GO OAK-LAND!!!!
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I feel sorta weird about saying this but....
I feel more comfortable with Dutch starting than anyone else (even Harden). While (VERY) under the radar, he’s becoming sort of similar to Haren last year in my mind. He simply gets the job done. And just maybe Buck has turned the corner.
If Ellis and Chavez can get going by the time we get Frank back, we could be VERY dangerous down the stretch. But that’s thinking way ahead. Nate Robertson, like all the Tigers starters, has had a tough start to his season. But he’s more than capable.
And just a reminder, these guys did sweep us in the ALCS just two seasons ago.
So every chance we get against them we should be out for revenge!
Lineups
Us
Hannahan, 3B
Ellis, 2B
Cust, DH
Crosby, SS
Brown, LF
Barton, 1B
Buck, RF
Cargo, CF
Bowen, C
Them
Granderson, CF
Guillen, 3B
Thames, LF
Ordonez, RF
Larish, DH
Cabrera, 1B
Rodriguez, C
Santiago, SS
Raburn, 2B
NO POLANCOOOOOOOOOOOOO
this is all courtesy of the "worldwide leader"
According to Accuscore, we’re .56 to win. Also, Cust is .221 to go yard today.
5 lefties too
wish we had Thomas or Sweeney.
by oaktownmario on Jun 4, 2008 12:17 PM PDT up reply actions
Duke
Hey I said the same thing about Duke back when he was our absolutely killer shutdown reliever. Back then he was top tier relief for a couple years. I’m honestly not so certain about him being quite as killer as a starter, but even being a 2nd starter would be awesomeness.
The A's lineup makes me a bit queasy
Not blaming Geren, but, ew.
http://bocropleasestopswingingatbadpitches.blogspot.com/
by thejd44 on Jun 4, 2008 12:06 PM PDT reply actions
Yeah - that bottom half is more of a murderees row
by green star oakland on Jun 4, 2008 12:07 PM PDT up reply actions
QOTM contender, double play division
.463 chance of selection
"You have to have a catcher or you'll have all passed balls."- Casey Stengel
by Gaijin_Suketto on Jun 4, 2008 1:50 PM PDT up reply actions
The A's pitching isn't amazing, unbelievable, or out of this world
Nor is the hitting horrendous, atrocious, or Satanic.
It’s the ballpark. (And whatever league-wide effects have caused offense to faceplant—de-juiced baseballs?) Crosby’s .707 OPS (prior to last night’s game) ranked him a league-average hitter. Dana Eveland’s 3.82 ERA ranked him a league-average pitcher.
For whatever reasons, the Coliseum is playing like Petco this year. It is insanely difficult (by recent standards) to score runs there.
Your 2008 Athletics: It's Nothing Personal.
When you say average, do you mean mediocre?
by oaktownmario on Jun 4, 2008 12:15 PM PDT up reply actions
Nice
At least I think you’re joking. Sometimes it’s hard to tell around here.
http://bocropleasestopswingingatbadpitches.blogspot.com/
by thejd44 on Jun 4, 2008 12:16 PM PDT up reply actions
Yeah, I was joking.
And it is hard to tell. Maybe AN 10.0 needs to incorporate real time video of when each of us is typing. That might help.
Then we could all flip each other off to make it real clear.
by oaktownmario on Jun 4, 2008 12:18 PM PDT up reply actions
We need a middle finger emoticon
That’ll save lots of typing
http://bocropleasestopswingingatbadpitches.blogspot.com/
by thejd44 on Jun 4, 2008 12:20 PM PDT up reply actions
JD, I noticed you're a Blackhawks fan
for some odd reason, I am too. But I am fairly ignorant of the “farm system” and future players. Heck, I’m not even that familiar with the third and fourth lines.
Think they’ll finally make the playoffs next year? I was pretty pleased with how they finished and made a run at the end this year.
by oaktownmario on Jun 4, 2008 12:25 PM PDT up reply actions
oaktownmario, i'm a hockey fan. and chi town has one of the best young talent pools in teh nhl. cam barker on d, sharp, toews, and one other young forward, seabrook on d all have very very great potential. I think they finish second behind detroit next yr
by TheGreenGoldCrush on Jun 4, 2008 12:27 PM PDT up reply actions
Dude
There are two boxes in the “post a comment” dialog.
Use both of them.
Your 2008 Athletics: It's Nothing Personal.
my appologies
Paul. will straighten that out for you.
by TheGreenGoldCrush on Jun 4, 2008 12:31 PM PDT up reply actions
if you are interested in following nhl more, watch blackhawk games next season they will be entertaining games
by TheGreenGoldCrush on Jun 4, 2008 12:28 PM PDT up reply actions
I watch as many as I can
but unfortunately vs chanell always seems to televise only red wing games. Damn them red wings!
I did watch the Hawks in LA and Ana in person though. That was fun.
by oaktownmario on Jun 4, 2008 12:31 PM PDT up reply actions
Hawks TV
Ever since the new owner took over last season his mandate was to increase the local tv of hawks games as they were not previously shown. you should get more access to games next season.
And if you can’t or are out of market, this site is good for watching online…
by TheGreenGoldCrush on Jun 4, 2008 12:35 PM PDT up reply actions
Thanks for the link.
I am out of market and unfortunately I only am able to spring the $ for the EI package.
by oaktownmario on Jun 4, 2008 12:36 PM PDT up reply actions
Yes, once Bill Wirtz died
And his son took over, everything changed. Home games on TV, bringing in John McDonough (who used to be with the Cubs as, basically, a marketing guy), bringing back Pat Foley for the upcoming season. A lot of peripheral stuff, but it’s going to make the experience as a fan a lot better.
http://bocropleasestopswingingatbadpitches.blogspot.com/
by thejd44 on Jun 4, 2008 12:41 PM PDT up reply actions
Are you a Chicagoan?
Because there’s not many Hawks fans left here, much less elsewhere.
Anyway, my hockey knowledge is still growing since I’ve only really gotten into the sport over the last 3 years. But I really like what I see from the young players. Kane and Toews are probably going to end up 1-2 in ROY (did they hand out that award yet?). Patrick Sharp has emerged as a true front-line forward. And they still have the enigmatic Harden-esque Martin Havlat.
But even with Kane and Toews, I think the biggest bright spot on the team is Duncan Keith. He’s one of the best young defensemen in the league (and was an All-Star this year). Seabrook and Barker are promising, too.
A lot of people are down on Khabibulin, but I think it’s pretty unfair. He’s been solid. Overpaid, maybe, but he’s been good for the most part. If he were making less money and didn’t have a reputation, nobody would complain about him. But, on the bright side, Corey Crawford should be ready to take over soon.
The only reason they missed out on the playoffs this year was that Toews missed a month. I think barring more injuries they’re a lock for the postseason next year.
http://bocropleasestopswingingatbadpitches.blogspot.com/
by thejd44 on Jun 4, 2008 12:40 PM PDT up reply actions
No I'm from Calgary
But Cam Barker played junior near here, for the medicine hat tigers. He will be extremely good.
Duncan Keith is already one of the top young dmen in the league, seabrook too. Not dion phaneuf good though, but not many are at his level (j/k : ) )
Toews would have won the ROY hands down if he didn’t get injured. I think Kane will win it, unless carey price from montreal edges him out. Toews is an unbelievable talent. He will be top 5 players in the league in no time. Sharp has played great, and dustin byuflin really emerged out of nowhere.
The young core of players they have, and the harden like havlat, they are going to have a great team there in no time. The fans who have a long history of supporting the hawks (but its been bleak the last several years) will start comming back. One playoff run and hockey will be huge again in chi town. They will have a product on the ice that is too good to ignore. It will be better than the belfour / roenick days.
I don’t watch many teams beyond the flames, but watching the hawks is something i will do because they are entertaining and very talented young core.
And yes, i would say its almost a lock they make the playoffs next year. with or without havlat being healthy
by TheGreenGoldCrush on Jun 4, 2008 12:52 PM PDT up reply actions
To support this:
A’s ERA at home: 2.94
A’s ERA on the road: 4.23
http://bocropleasestopswingingatbadpitches.blogspot.com/
by thejd44 on Jun 4, 2008 12:16 PM PDT up reply actions
Compared to what I thought it would be, yeah, yeah it is.
So, bring on Bonds! Or, not... then, bring back Langerhans!! -One won lost one
by baseballgirl on Jun 4, 2008 12:32 PM PDT up reply actions
Chavez status?
Are they just giving him two days off in a row, or did he get injured while sliding into Pudge last night?
What about Barry?
"Barry who?" Forst said, and I felt like I was in the middle of a knock-knock joke.
11 innings at 3b
he’ll probably ph late, but giving his legs, back and shoulder a rest, most likely.
Yeah, that play at the plate worried me too
Hope he’s ok.
Please post any updates . . .
by oaktownmario on Jun 4, 2008 12:14 PM PDT up reply actions
i think its just the old man easing into a warm bath approach. mlb.com on the highlights video said he's not 100% so we'll see him in and out for a bit until he's feeling solid.
by TheGreenGoldCrush on Jun 4, 2008 12:25 PM PDT up reply actions
He looked awkward on that slide
I’m hoping he just needs two days of rest and hasn’t pulled a Frank on us.
"I was right and you were wrong." - Ray Fosse
Eh
After last night’s game, and with another lefty on the mound, why not give him the day off?
Even healthy Chavez has barely been better than a replacement level bat against lefthanders anyway. So there’s not much point in DHing him.
Your 2008 Athletics: It's Nothing Personal.
So, how about them sharks?
Rumors that Marleau’s on the way out, and Tortorella on the way in? Discuss.
Also Pollack rejected the supposed Colombus rumor yesterday
I don’t know if he’ll get traded, although somebody needs to go
"I was right and you were wrong." - Ray Fosse
He didn't reject it
lots of people shot it down. he also said it was a rumor from a credible source, so he ran with it.
heard marleau to columbus for Zherdev and the 6th overall pick. as great as marleau is, would be a steal for SJ
by TheGreenGoldCrush on Jun 4, 2008 12:37 PM PDT up reply actions
After that got published yesterday
Everyone is denying it exists. Although it would be a fanstastic deal for the Sharks
"I was right and you were wrong." - Ray Fosse
Seven pitches?!?
Way to go, Duke! :)
"Well, I've wrestled with reality for 35 years, doctor, and I'm happy to state that I've finally won out over it." -- Elwood P. Dowd (Jimmy Stewart), "Harvey"
Complete game = 72 pitches
(Have to allow for a couple of eight-pitch “trouble” innings.) :Þ
"Well, I've wrestled with reality for 35 years, doctor, and I'm happy to state that I've finally won out over it." -- Elwood P. Dowd (Jimmy Stewart), "Harvey"
Chavez' legs are not feeling great.
I guess that’s better than his back.
So, bring on Bonds! Or, not... then, bring back Langerhans!! -One won lost one
He mentioned last night that his legs were dragging a little
Still like ST for him I guess
He's still getting up to game speed
Really, he’s still going through his own Spring Training a bit. It’ll take some time for his conditioning to return
"I was right and you were wrong." - Ray Fosse
Agreed.
Legs can be built back up through rest, then weights, general use grin, etc. If his back goes wonky…yikes.
BTW, BBG – Looks like my family and I may be coming down to Sac in July – and maybe around AN Day weekend! :) I’ll let you know for sure so I might be able to get a ticket or two.
"Well, I've wrestled with reality for 35 years, doctor, and I'm happy to state that I've finally won out over it." -- Elwood P. Dowd (Jimmy Stewart), "Harvey"
Yeah, my legs wouldn't feel too great
after that “slide” into Pudge the plate last night, either.
"JOAN! Are you watching Bombast? Did you see Lack Bust drop that fly call?"
I've been watching the Detroit feed on Extra Innings
And I have to day, their announcers are some of the best in the game. Very knowledgable, they point out relevant stats, and they know things about the opposing team. Such a better, more professional team than say I don’t know Rex Hudler and The FSN West crew
"I was right and you were wrong." - Ray Fosse
I disagree
I think Rod Allen is in the bottom 5 or 6 among color commentators. He’s black Duane Kuiper.
However, Allen is part of one of my all-time favorite baseball youtube videos, so I guess he gets a pass.
http://bocropleasestopswingingatbadpitches.blogspot.com/
by thejd44 on Jun 4, 2008 12:46 PM PDT up reply actions
Really?
To be fair Duane Kuiper is a play by play man. And while I have only listened to Allen maybe a dozen times I find him to be pretty good. And without the crap catch phrases of Krukow
"I was right and you were wrong." - Ray Fosse
Oh, I meant Krukow
Whoever calls people meat. That’s who I can’t stand.
http://bocropleasestopswingingatbadpitches.blogspot.com/
by thejd44 on Jun 4, 2008 12:49 PM PDT up reply actions
Great video! Haha
I am Ray Fosse's man crushes for Clay Wood and Jason Kendall.
by franks a lot on Jun 4, 2008 12:50 PM PDT up reply actions
If Rex and Joe Morgan ever end up in the same booth
my head might explode
Did Ben Affleck show up in the booth?
"Well, I've wrestled with reality for 35 years, doctor, and I'm happy to state that I've finally won out over it." -- Elwood P. Dowd (Jimmy Stewart), "Harvey"
I could go for some animal crackers right now.
"JOAN! Are you watching Bombast? Did you see Lack Bust drop that fly call?"
Heh heh...
Quite possibly the worst Wild Kingdom reenactment I’ve ever seen…
"Well, I've wrestled with reality for 35 years, doctor, and I'm happy to state that I've finally won out over it." -- Elwood P. Dowd (Jimmy Stewart), "Harvey"
I liked them...had them last night
Found them knowledgable, not to ‘homer-ish’, and overall, pretty interesting.
So, bring on Bonds! Or, not... then, bring back Langerhans!! -One won lost one
by baseballgirl on Jun 4, 2008 12:48 PM PDT up reply actions
Agree. I really like their announcers.
Seem like nice guys and are very good.
Sure they will
Pitchers still throw Moises Alou and Alfonso Soriano first-pitch fastballs and I’m pretty sure that’s all either guy can hit.
http://bocropleasestopswingingatbadpitches.blogspot.com/
by thejd44 on Jun 4, 2008 12:51 PM PDT up reply actions
Whats up all?
I just logged on, I was suprised to see that Emil was not moved up in the order.
by asfaninpismobeach on Jun 4, 2008 12:51 PM PDT reply actions
Response
To FE
From EB
Date 6/4/08
RE RE First Pitch
Who cares? I’m not in Kansas anymore.
Lol
He might be in AAA with someone soon though.
by asfaninpismobeach on Jun 4, 2008 12:54 PM PDT up reply actions
Re: Response
To EB
From ToTo
Date 6/4/08
RE RE First Pitch
Arf.
"Well, I've wrestled with reality for 35 years, doctor, and I'm happy to state that I've finally won out over it." -- Elwood P. Dowd (Jimmy Stewart), "Harvey"
There's one trouble inning.
Still on pace. :)
"Well, I've wrestled with reality for 35 years, doctor, and I'm happy to state that I've finally won out over it." -- Elwood P. Dowd (Jimmy Stewart), "Harvey"
I wish I could be as bad
as Emil is at his job and make over a million bucks a year. Not a bad days pay.
by asfaninpismobeach on Jun 4, 2008 12:56 PM PDT reply actions
Then again I am
one of the best peep show janitor’s around.
by asfaninpismobeach on Jun 4, 2008 12:57 PM PDT up reply actions
it could be worse
he’s not exactly ben grieve
Gentle Ben!
I am Ray Fosse's man crushes for Clay Wood and Jason Kendall.
by franks a lot on Jun 4, 2008 12:58 PM PDT up reply actions
Dont need money
when you do yoga all day and eat Granola
by asfaninpismobeach on Jun 4, 2008 1:00 PM PDT up reply actions
Not as bad as Barry Zito
For the Giants Dime?
All Games and Comments are Subject to Blackout
by Hit4TheCycle on Jun 4, 2008 12:57 PM PDT up reply actions
Really that bad?
Does everyone really think $1+ mil is that much to pay for a 4th outfielder who can play either corner and even center in a dire emergency, provides a RH bat in a LH heavy line-up and has good contact ability and modest power.
Just because injuries and a hot April have caused Emil to be overused and thrust into a more prominent role I don’t think it means he has no value.
You can
get a .663 OPS from a ton of corner outfielders for almost nothing a year.
by asfaninpismobeach on Jun 4, 2008 1:10 PM PDT up reply actions
Seriously man
do you think Linden , a switch hitter—would have been worse then a .663 OPS. No way plus he was cheap! They let him walk for nothing.
by asfaninpismobeach on Jun 4, 2008 1:12 PM PDT up reply actions
Not exactly nothing
If they brought up Linden and let go of Brown they still would have been on the hook for Brown’s salary so Linden would have technicaly cost more than Emil. While I would have been interested to see Linden get a shot I’m not convinced he would be that much better against lefties than Brown.
I just think $1+ mil is about as cheap as you can get a guy after his first 6 years and that if Emil was strictly used against lefties he would be useful.
That really is
a nice swing for a guy that plays less then one time every 10 games.
by asfaninpismobeach on Jun 4, 2008 1:02 PM PDT up reply actions
Allright Bowen!!!
I really think he should play more. I think he should start about every 6th game. He is still a young guy. Then again Suzuki is a more popular player with the fans
Rob could grow a
Braden fro. Wont score with the chicks after the game but people seem to root for you.
by asfaninpismobeach on Jun 4, 2008 1:04 PM PDT up reply actions
I think that many time guys who were drafted and come thru the organization get more love
Suzuki and Buck have more fans and more opportunities. They also have appeared on bobble-heads and are in commercials.
Linden and Bowen – arrived from other teams and with little fanfare did not garner much attention.
His commercial reading skills are subpar
I am Ray Fosse's man crushes for Clay Wood and Jason Kendall.
26 pitches through 3
Still mad about not staying in for the shutout.
The A's colors are green and gold.
Off the 7-pitch, pace, but
maybe he’ll get a three-pitch inning next inning. :)
"Well, I've wrestled with reality for 35 years, doctor, and I'm happy to state that I've finally won out over it." -- Elwood P. Dowd (Jimmy Stewart), "Harvey"
Any reports on Thomas and M. Sweeney??
I understand that many of the injured relievers are on target to return quickly.
Ryan Sweeney should be back right at the end of the 15 days.
Any more reports on Thomas and M. Sweeney?
I think it would be great for Thomas to come back for the next homestand (after the trips to SF and Ariz.)
I thought I read that Frank Thomas
would be back on Tuesday. Could be wrong though.
Might as well Jump! - Van Halen
Sweeney:
According to the San Francisco Chronicle, an examination of Mike Sweeney’s injured left knee revealed damaged cartilage.
Sweeney already had cartilage damage in his right knee. He’s scheduled to receive a cortisone shot and is hoping to avoid surgery until the offseason, but remains several days away from resuming baseball activities while on the disabled list.
The A's colors are green and gold.
Lord knows
this offense needs a bat like yesterday. Someone who can hit for extra bases. I mean the pitchers that the A’s have faced this series have been horrible up until they have faced the A’s.
by asfaninpismobeach on Jun 4, 2008 1:18 PM PDT up reply actions
usually a good sign for us
www.baseballmachine.blogspot.com
by SwishMyNish33 on Jun 4, 2008 1:15 PM PDT up reply actions
DEEP flyball outs, according to Yahoo.
Maybe the next one will fly over the wall for us… :)
"Well, I've wrestled with reality for 35 years, doctor, and I'm happy to state that I've finally won out over it." -- Elwood P. Dowd (Jimmy Stewart), "Harvey"
wow Duchscherer has been extrememyl efficient
26 pitches through 3 innnings!
www.baseballmachine.blogspot.com
Makes you wonder how Thames = Tims...?
I am Ray Fosse's man crushes for Clay Wood and Jason Kendall.
Crazy British pronunciation. Like the river. :)
"Well, I've wrestled with reality for 35 years, doctor, and I'm happy to state that I've finally won out over it." -- Elwood P. Dowd (Jimmy Stewart), "Harvey"
My buddy and I were wondering that last night as well. He murders the ball in batting practice so I guess he can pronounce his name however he pleases.
Eveland rocks! Eveland rocks! Somewhere Drew Carey just smiled.
Murder it all you want during BP.
I’ll take routine groundouts during the games.
"Well, I've wrestled with reality for 35 years, doctor, and I'm happy to state that I've finally won out over it." -- Elwood P. Dowd (Jimmy Stewart), "Harvey"
I agree, but he hit some impressive shots.
Eveland rocks! Eveland rocks! Somewhere Drew Carey just smiled.
It's nice to watch, to be sure.
BP homers are great. For the sake of the green and gold, keep hitting them like that in the CAGE, though…
"Well, I've wrestled with reality for 35 years, doctor, and I'm happy to state that I've finally won out over it." -- Elwood P. Dowd (Jimmy Stewart), "Harvey"
Base hit Emil!
Excellent. Let’s just hope he doesn’t run himself into an out.
by VORP is too nerdy on Jun 4, 2008 1:23 PM PDT reply actions
DBart single, Emil to third
Barton is really hitting well this month. Good to see.
by VORP is too nerdy on Jun 4, 2008 1:24 PM PDT reply actions
Runners at the corners...
"Well, I've wrestled with reality for 35 years, doctor, and I'm happy to state that I've finally won out over it." -- Elwood P. Dowd (Jimmy Stewart), "Harvey"
Now if we can get people on third whenever we get into yet another double play
we’d be fine
Green Hulk Fists
lets see if buck can break the half mendoza line against lefties today
cuz, this season, he’s hitting a putrid .097 against them. Ugh.
a double play rbi. well done buck well done. only in oak. Oh well we got the lead!
by TheGreenGoldCrush on Jun 4, 2008 1:26 PM PDT reply actions
No RBI on the double play
But I’ll still take the run
http://bocropleasestopswingingatbadpitches.blogspot.com/
by thejd44 on Jun 4, 2008 1:27 PM PDT up reply actions
At least is scored a run
Small consolation but a lead is a lead
worst way to get a run
unless you hit into a triple play, but a run scores before some out other than the one at first is made
Disagree with the A's example
Worst is the strikeout, cause you KNOW there’s another one coming, and that run never gets home… ;-)
So, bring on Bonds! Or, not... then, bring back Langerhans!! -One won lost one
I don't know what the deal is with Travis..
Those ground balls he’s been rolling over on used to be line drives.
by VORP is too nerdy on Jun 4, 2008 1:26 PM PDT reply actions
A run is a run...
...but I thought we had stopped getting RBIs like that. I remember when it seemed like that would happen at least once a game.
"Well, I've wrestled with reality for 35 years, doctor, and I'm happy to state that I've finally won out over it." -- Elwood P. Dowd (Jimmy Stewart), "Harvey"
GIDP RBI, I mean...
...not scoring a run. :)
"Well, I've wrestled with reality for 35 years, doctor, and I'm happy to state that I've finally won out over it." -- Elwood P. Dowd (Jimmy Stewart), "Harvey"
It seems to me
that Miguel Cabrera has gotten fatter this year.
by VORP is too nerdy on Jun 4, 2008 1:30 PM PDT reply actions
He was way overwight last season but
supposedly came in 30 pound lighter.
I dont know how old you guys are
but the Tigers Announcers were just talking about Walt Weiss. Any of you see Walt play in person? The guy when he was young was unbelieveable. I mean that guy made plays at Shortstop that I have never seen any other player make.
by asfaninpismobeach on Jun 4, 2008 1:30 PM PDT reply actions
I don't remember him being incredible
But I sure do remember him being good.
Yep, Walt Weiss was fun to watch.
Also liked Alfredo Griffin before and Mike Bordick after. The ’s have been privy to some great shortstops over the years.
"Well, I've wrestled with reality for 35 years, doctor, and I'm happy to state that I've finally won out over it." -- Elwood P. Dowd (Jimmy Stewart), "Harvey"
I remember his ROY season
I was pretty young but he was one of my favorite players. I think it was because I loved the Waaaaaalterrrrrr chants at the colisseum. That and he was an incredible defensive SS.
Walt was great
He was such an athletic guy. The old DP combo of him and Gaellego was fun to watch
"I was right and you were wrong." - Ray Fosse
Mike Gallego -
Small guy, but great range. Pretty scrappy guy. :)
"Well, I've wrestled with reality for 35 years, doctor, and I'm happy to state that I've finally won out over it." -- Elwood P. Dowd (Jimmy Stewart), "Harvey"
yeah
but it didn’t hold a candle to mike bordick and brent gates
...
Bordick was fun to watch, too.
Was sad when he left for the O’s…
"Well, I've wrestled with reality for 35 years, doctor, and I'm happy to state that I've finally won out over it." -- Elwood P. Dowd (Jimmy Stewart), "Harvey"
I was joking about the Brent Gates part.
but yeah, Bordick was cool.
That might be why I *shuddered*
when you said Brent Gates. But, I suppose his momma loved him. :Þ
"Well, I've wrestled with reality for 35 years, doctor, and I'm happy to state that I've finally won out over it." -- Elwood P. Dowd (Jimmy Stewart), "Harvey"
hahaha
oh remember when Bordick hit .300 and everyone hailed him as the next great A’s infielder…oh back in the doom and gloom days of the mid 90s
"I was right and you were wrong." - Ray Fosse
I was an A's and Giants fan as a kid
I loved Robbie Thompson. I think thats the spelling. Dude could hit for a second baseman.
by asfaninpismobeach on Jun 4, 2008 1:35 PM PDT up reply actions
When I was 8 years old
I wanted to be Walt Weiss when I grew up.
Lets score about 7 more
Because Embree is our closer today so we do not need to see that
Duke will be his own closer with any luck
well, who's good to go in the 'pen tonight?
Calero. Embree. Ummmm.
Ziggy?
Not Street.
Hahaha
he was a weird guy but one hell of a player. Never be that kind of unique player again.
by asfaninpismobeach on Jun 4, 2008 1:38 PM PDT up reply actions
Branch Rickey?
"Well, I've wrestled with reality for 35 years, doctor, and I'm happy to state that I've finally won out over it." -- Elwood P. Dowd (Jimmy Stewart), "Harvey"
Maybe I misheard
But did were they talking about how he was a first-ballot hall of famer, yet the A’s hadn’t retired his number yet? I don’t think he’s in the hall of fame yet.
Might as well Jump! - Van Halen
I don't think he can be yet
didn’t he just retire a few years ago?
by VORP is too nerdy on Jun 4, 2008 1:39 PM PDT up reply actions
People say "first ballot hall of famer" when it's clear that the player will be
The A's colors are green and gold.
I don't think Rickey has officially retired yet.
Has he? Until he’s out for five years, he won’t even get on the ballot…
"Well, I've wrestled with reality for 35 years, doctor, and I'm happy to state that I've finally won out over it." -- Elwood P. Dowd (Jimmy Stewart), "Harvey"
Not sure..
Do you have to officially retire, or do you just not have to play for a few years? He hasn’t played since 2003..
by VORP is too nerdy on Jun 4, 2008 1:43 PM PDT up reply actions
I checked the HOF website
Rickey will be on the HOF ballot for the 2009 vote, provided no one signs him before the end of this season. :)
"Well, I've wrestled with reality for 35 years, doctor, and I'm happy to state that I've finally won out over it." -- Elwood P. Dowd (Jimmy Stewart), "Harvey"
Looks like
He’d have been thrown out. Jack needs to consider taking longer strides. It looks like he just shuffles his feet when he runs.
by VORP is too nerdy on Jun 4, 2008 1:41 PM PDT up reply actions
What I don't understand...
is he looks like he’s built to be fast… but isn’t.
by VORP is too nerdy on Jun 4, 2008 1:42 PM PDT up reply actions
Yeah, but that's like saying
My pristine ‘68 Camaro has a 3-cylinder hidden under the hood…
"Well, I've wrestled with reality for 35 years, doctor, and I'm happy to state that I've finally won out over it." -- Elwood P. Dowd (Jimmy Stewart), "Harvey"
that's the name i was looking for
i’m sure there are others.
No, that's the worst sliding leadoff hitter ever. :*(
"Well, I've wrestled with reality for 35 years, doctor, and I'm happy to state that I've finally won out over it." -- Elwood P. Dowd (Jimmy Stewart), "Harvey"
he didn't need to slide
he stepped over the mitt.
dammit.
Yankees got the call that day.
JG was safe.
"Well, I've wrestled with reality for 35 years, doctor, and I'm happy to state that I've finally won out over it." -- Elwood P. Dowd (Jimmy Stewart), "Harvey"
Hey Emil Brown gets a walk!
It was intentional, but still….
Now his OBP will deviate slightly from his BA
I am Ray Fosse's man crushes for Clay Wood and Jason Kendall.
I love that Darth Vader music
they played just as Barton came up.
by VORP is too nerdy on Jun 4, 2008 1:44 PM PDT reply actions
WHATTT???
Why did they intentionally walk Brown??
I hope Barton makes them pay
Is he going to get DFA'd by the Rays, too? :)
"Well, I've wrestled with reality for 35 years, doctor, and I'm happy to state that I've finally won out over it." -- Elwood P. Dowd (Jimmy Stewart), "Harvey"
It's all Jim Leylanf
He thinks RBI’s are a meaningful way to measure the production of a hitter.
by VORP is too nerdy on Jun 4, 2008 1:46 PM PDT up reply actions
He also thinks coffee and cigarettes are nutritional
I am Ray Fosse's man crushes for Clay Wood and Jason Kendall.
Worked for Babe Ruth.
He added hot dogs, beer and prostitues to the equation.
"Well, I've wrestled with reality for 35 years, doctor, and I'm happy to state that I've finally won out over it." -- Elwood P. Dowd (Jimmy Stewart), "Harvey"
Maybe even prostitutes.
"Well, I've wrestled with reality for 35 years, doctor, and I'm happy to state that I've finally won out over it." -- Elwood P. Dowd (Jimmy Stewart), "Harvey"
Brown, last 20 games
4 rbi’s
and a couple horrible fielding and baserunning plays…
thats good right?
We should have looked to trade him when he was the AL RBI leader.
Do you guys think any teams would fall for that?
by VORP is too nerdy on Jun 4, 2008 1:48 PM PDT up reply actions
Angels already ahead in the top of the first with a Vladless lineup
I hate the Mariners.
The A's colors are green and gold.
Angels get to Silva in the top of the first...
This might be a long one for LL
Dude the Angels are sick hot
We have no chance of catching those tools. Are they ever going to lose again? Everytime I turn their game on they are winning.
by asfaninpismobeach on Jun 4, 2008 1:48 PM PDT reply actions
This weekend is a chance to beat them.
So, bring on Bonds! Or, not... then, bring back Langerhans!! -One won lost one
If we win, they don't.
So, bring on Bonds! Or, not... then, bring back Langerhans!! -One won lost one
HEAR, HEAR! :)
"Well, I've wrestled with reality for 35 years, doctor, and I'm happy to state that I've finally won out over it." -- Elwood P. Dowd (Jimmy Stewart), "Harvey"
Great point. We just need to keep playing well
We have 5 series with the Angels left. Also, we get to play Seattle many more times as well. ALSO, the Angels will have to play Texas and the two of them can knock each other around.
An Atomic Bomb should be dropped on the Mariners
and wins given to opposition without playing the game
Wait for another couple weeks.
A buddy of mine is goig to Seattle next week. Maybe the Mariners will be on the road. :)
"Well, I've wrestled with reality for 35 years, doctor, and I'm happy to state that I've finally won out over it." -- Elwood P. Dowd (Jimmy Stewart), "Harvey"
I can't wait until some of the other hitters get back
I think the A’s would be better served platooning some of the young guys like Buck, Hannahan, Barton and Gonzalez will make us a more productive hitting team. Of course if we are out of the race in early August then they should return to the young guys starting every day.
When Thomas returns
Duke...
Getting a little wild. Not good. Kiko can’t go 3+ innings.
by VORP is too nerdy on Jun 4, 2008 1:52 PM PDT reply actions
No walkitis again please
This is very un Duke Like
Come on Duke
3 runs is like Christmas for an A’s pitcher. Don’t start walking guys now!
Might as well Jump! - Van Halen
Let's get a 6-4-3, please...
"Well, I've wrestled with reality for 35 years, doctor, and I'm happy to state that I've finally won out over it." -- Elwood P. Dowd (Jimmy Stewart), "Harvey"
Nooooooo
He immediatley grabbed his wrist. This does not look good
"I was right and you were wrong." - Ray Fosse
UGH...the ball hit him right on the wrist
So, bring on Bonds! Or, not... then, bring back Langerhans!! -One won lost one
Not good
ouch man, i think its just something that hurts, Not broken, he would know it.
by asfaninpismobeach on Jun 4, 2008 1:56 PM PDT up reply actions
Oh, for the love of Mike... :(
"Well, I've wrestled with reality for 35 years, doctor, and I'm happy to state that I've finally won out over it." -- Elwood P. Dowd (Jimmy Stewart), "Harvey"
Gotta get out of this inning only giving up one
Not getting the close strike calls
Well
I think Duke is about done since he can’t throw a strike. He was freaking dealing too.
Might as well Jump! - Van Halen
They have to get him out
He’s walked the bases full, he averages less than 2 walks a game
"I was right and you were wrong." - Ray Fosse
Ummm...bullpen!??!!? Hello?
So, bring on Bonds! Or, not... then, bring back Langerhans!! -One won lost one
Even if he's not injured, fake it to give the 'pen some time
let’s go!
So, bring on Bonds! Or, not... then, bring back Langerhans!! -One won lost one
Geren, does 3 walks and a hit mean any fucking thing?
by asfaninpismobeach on Jun 4, 2008 1:58 PM PDT reply actions
Ziegler up in the pen!
So, bring on Bonds! Or, not... then, bring back Langerhans!! -One won lost one
Oh dude..
I saw that coming, as soon as Bowen moved inside.
by VORP is too nerdy on Jun 4, 2008 2:00 PM PDT reply actions
Wow...you're like a full minute ahead of
my audio feed.
"God doesn't pay attention to your cute little hypotheticals." -- Jeff from LL
Well, if you're gonna walk a dude
that’s the way to do it.
OUT OUT OUT OUT!!!!!
He’s done done done
So, bring on Bonds! Or, not... then, bring back Langerhans!! -One won lost one
Incredible
Look at that state
Innings 1-5: 12 balls
Inning 6: 17 balls.
by VORP is too nerdy on Jun 4, 2008 2:01 PM PDT reply actions
Geren is a total Moron again with
Pitching decisions
Honestly, I would rather Duke get out of it
than dig into our pen.
Give duke and geren the benefit of the doubt.
Green Hulk Fists
Geren - you just got lucky with that DP
LETS GET THOSE RUNS BACK NOW
Great DP there
But what the hell happened to Duke in that inning?
http://bocropleasestopswingingatbadpitches.blogspot.com/
by thejd44 on Jun 4, 2008 2:02 PM PDT reply actions
he looked like he couldnt grip it
or lost the feel or something. That was a total one inning meltdown.
by asfaninpismobeach on Jun 4, 2008 2:04 PM PDT up reply actions
From what I gather, the
beginning of wildness, then hit by a line drive on the wrist. All. Hell. Broke. Loose.
"Well, I've wrestled with reality for 35 years, doctor, and I'm happy to state that I've finally won out over it." -- Elwood P. Dowd (Jimmy Stewart), "Harvey"
Yoiks.
Glad my hair is already gone, ‘cause stuff like this accelerates the balding process…
"Well, I've wrestled with reality for 35 years, doctor, and I'm happy to state that I've finally won out over it." -- Elwood P. Dowd (Jimmy Stewart), "Harvey"
I don't understand the Geren hate
short bullpen, you don’t want to throw a pitcher in when he’s not warm – that’s worse than sticking with duke to finish the inning.
by noava22 on Jun 4, 2008 2:03 PM PDT reply actions 1 recs
The best part
Despite that last horrible inning, Duke will be credited with a quality start. And he deserves it because damn he was good through those first five. He just completely lost it. He’s about the last pitcher I would expect that to happen with.
Might as well Jump! - Van Halen
They did visit him
after he got hit on the forearm. Does that count as a mound visit?
by VORP is too nerdy on Jun 4, 2008 2:04 PM PDT up reply actions
Duke only at 75 pitches
I wonder if they start the 7th with him.
http://bocropleasestopswingingatbadpitches.blogspot.com/
by thejd44 on Jun 4, 2008 2:04 PM PDT reply actions
FINALLY
Great to see Travis get ahold of one.
by VORP is too nerdy on Jun 4, 2008 2:05 PM PDT reply actions
At least we have the right pitcher going against
Ervin Santana on Sunday in Rich Harden
Crosby, Brown and Suzuki are 0-26 against Him Yikes
Good Job Buck
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