DLD - 6/27/08
by JLaff on Jun 27, 2008 12:21 PM PDT
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I can't think of a title.
Yeah, we know Rich Harden is good.
(From Flashfire's awesome photo diary - check it out)
Tigers third baseman Brandon Inge joins him on the list of weird athlete injuries.
His victor? Not a spider. Or an alarm clock. Or um, uh, his truck.
via sleepbetter.org
"It was the stupidest, most freakish thing," Inge said Wednesday, explaining why he had just been placed on the 15-day DL with the pulled side muscle (oblique) he suffered 3 1/2 weeks ago.
"I have a 3-year-old son who sleeps in the bed with my wife and me," Inge said. "I was trying to push the pillow down behind his head (two nights ago), and when I did ... I repopped (the strained muscle).
"You take swings in baseball, and it's not as bad as pushing a pillow down."
Upon hearing this story, manager Jim Leyland said, "That's a first."
NBA teams trade everyone
A couple of the big NBA draft trades:
Memphis acquires Marko Jaric, Antoine Walker, Greg Buckner and the draft rights to O.J. Mayo from Minnesota in exchange for Mike Miller, Brian Cardinal, Jason Collins and the draft rights to Kevin Love.
Milwaukee acquires Richard Jefferson from New Jersey in exchange for Bobby Simmons and Yi Jianlian.
A few things that have surprised me. I'm trying to follow basketball now for the first time since Jordan's second (?) retirement. Chris Mullin and Steve Kerr are GMs? Grant Hill still plays? Vinny Del Negro is a coach? With all the scrappy white guys from the 90s getting front office gigs... how long until John Stockton gets one?
Warriors draft a tall, skinny dude
Meet the newest addition to Oracle Arena - F Anthony Randolph.
His favorite food is pizza. And he's three years younger than me. Damn. What am I doing with my life? I already feel old.
Random song from my iPod
George Strait - Amarillo by Morning
Which makes me wonder... what is your favorite kind of music and why? Sorry if my poll doesn't have every option, just the ones I could think of. I'd have to vote country with rap/hip-hop a close second.
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Randolph... ugh
What a terrible pick. I hate these “project” players that NBA teams take. This is not baseball, where you can afford to have a guy tool around in the minors for 4 or 5 years honing his game. The Warriors are supposed to be contenders next year.
I’m increasingly coming to the conclusion that Mullin is as bad as he ever was and just got really lucky in that one trade with the Pacers.
Your 2008 Athletics: It's Nothing Personal.
by PaulThomas on Jun 27, 2008 12:35 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
Who did you want in that spot though?
I wanted brandon Rush, but he went #13 and there was no one that really excited me after that. Maybe Courtney Lee, but I’m not sure they needed another guard. I’m glad they didnt go with Kosta, saw very little upside there.
Bring back Hammer.
by OaktownPower on Jun 27, 2008 3:47 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
I'd rather have taken Ryan Anderson
because he’s actually good at basketball.
Your 2008 Athletics: It's Nothing Personal.
by PaulThomas on Jun 27, 2008 4:04 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Anderson
ugh. Please no.
Anderson is incapable of changing a game. Hey played so many games against inferior athletes, and STILL failed to change the game.
I don’t know much about Randolph, but the mere fact that he’s a project is not a fatal flaw.
at 14, you either get role players, or projects.
by ohmangoAs on Jun 27, 2008 4:41 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
..............
Are you f’ing kidding me?
Yeah, 22 and 10 a night doesn’t change any games. Scoring like 15 points in a row against Washington didn’t change that game.
This post is so illogical it makes me question whether you’re talking about the right person.
Your 2008 Athletics: It's Nothing Personal.
by PaulThomas on Jun 27, 2008 4:49 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
PT you have a Pac 10 bias, you seem to over rate there abilities a lot
by theblackpearl on Jun 27, 2008 4:54 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Want a non-Pac 10 pick?
Darrell Arthur.
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by PaulThomas on Jun 27, 2008 5:08 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
ok paul, put that TiVo back on
The view from The Bench is a little closer than most of the untelevised games you couldn’t watch Paul…
Anderson is a scorer, no doubt about it. But the scores are put-backs, open jumpers…When was the last time that Anderson pulled the Bears out of a slump? He disappeared on several occasions (oddly enough, it coincided with his jumper being cold).
NBA players are one of two things: Athletic Freaks, or Solid Fundamental players who do the little things so that even when the shot isn’t falling, they are assets to the team.
Anderson is neither.
by ohmangoAs on Jun 28, 2008 12:36 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
The occasions on which he "disappeared"
have a marked correlation to the occasions on which he was being guarded by the best defensive big man in the conference. This is not rocket science here.
Again I ask—did you watch the Washington game (in Seattle)? Without Anderson Cal loses that game by 20 points.
Which one of those “two things” is Dirk Nowitski? I would hardly describe him as being an “athletic freak,” unless merely being tall qualifies… which isn’t a problem for Anderson.
Your 2008 Athletics: It's Nothing Personal.
by PaulThomas on Jun 28, 2008 9:32 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Dirk has the amazing ability to move like a point guard, even though he’s basically a 7-footer. If that’s not freakily athletic, I don’t know what is. You don’t have to be Dwight Howard to be an athletic freak.
I generally bemoan the profusion of Mr Sabermetric Sporks in the Scrabble ranks who don't know the meaning or usage of 50% of the words they use. -monkeyball
by JediLeroy on Jun 28, 2008 9:38 AM PDT up reply actions 1 recs
You've referred to 1 game
First of all, citing 1 good game is hardly an argument, and yes I did see it (and was thrilled).
Second, Anderson is NOWHERE near Dirk. He’s not as quick, not as tall, not as good a ball handler (how often did he take big men off the dribble?)
Third, even though Anderson’s numbers are good, his disappearance against athletic defenders is precisely what shows his problems as an NBA player- Everyone in the NBA is tremendously Athletic.
Fourth, even if he dominated the college game consistently, he didn’t do it in a way conducive to an NBA game- open Jumpers, putbacks, etc. He’s got a great shot, and like many other college players, hitting three’s alone was sufficient for nice numbers. But he’s not creating his own shots- that’s the problem.
Look, I think he might turn into a nice role player (and that’s not a guarantee either), but 14th pick would be a reach.
by ohmangoAs on Jun 28, 2008 12:05 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
You said he was incapable of changing a game
I pointed out that he did, in fact, change a game.
If you don’t want to be refuted that easily, stop making preposterously exaggerated statements.
Your 2008 Athletics: It's Nothing Personal.
by PaulThomas on Jun 28, 2008 11:17 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Semantics are always useful
a game can refer to games in general, not every single game ever.
Also, this argument is about YOUR contention that the Warriors should have picked him.
Even if we grant that you’ve semantically won the “changing a game” debate,
I think you’ve easily lost the rest of the debate (which you ignored)
ignoring arguments you don’t want to answer is a good strategy when you’re trying to make it look like you won an argument.
by ohmangoAs on Jun 29, 2008 11:41 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Chosing to not argue
works well also.
Florida ain't no place for a self-respecting A's fan.
by Leopold Bloom on Jun 29, 2008 12:34 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
OK
Here’s why I think Randolph is a dismal pick. Whether Ryan Anderson is or is not a good pick at that spot is basically not relevant (I think he is, but opinions clearly vary). Why is it not relevant? Because virtually every other player under serious consideration in the draft would have been a better pick.
From John Hollinger:
Anthony Randolph, LSU, 9.85
Yes, this is true. Seen in many quarters as a high lottery pick, Randolph has virtually nothing in his statistical record to justify such a lofty selection.
In particular, his woeful ball-handling numbers are a major red flag. Randolph had more turnovers than any prospect except Beasley and Thompson, but those two players had every play run through them; I’m still waiting to find out Randolph’s excuse.
Additionally, his 49.9 true shooting percentage is alarmingly bad for a guy who is supposed to dominate athletically.
He can block shots, and the fact his team was such a mess probably didn’t help his numbers any, but gambling on Randolph with a high first-round pick looks like the basketball equivalent of hitting on 19 in blackjack. Hey, maybe the dealer throws out a 2 and everyone thinks you’re a genius, but chances are you’re going to bust.
It appears he’s going to be drafted in the middle of the first round at worst, but even that appears to be a terrible mistake—there is no track record whatsoever of a player rated this poorly achieving pro success.
From Basketball Prospectus:
The various stat-based systems don’t always agree, but there is unanimity on this: Anthony Randolph is not a lottery pick, not anywhere close. In fact, of all the prospects I rated, Randolph rates as the most inefficient offensive player. He turns the ball over too much and doesn’t shoot a high enough percentage from the field, which are two big problems.
This is not normal “well, he might have issues” talk. Every indicator of bust-hood is flashing red lights and setting off alarm bells. Randolph is a tall guy with some natural athleticism who is completely incapable of actually playing basketball.
Your 2008 Athletics: It's Nothing Personal.
by PaulThomas on Jun 29, 2008 3:36 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Stats, and Turnovers
Turnovers are often the product of lacking strength. When you’re Physically overwhelmed, you throw the ball away, fumble passes, etc. After you get stronger, its easier to play with some poise. Monta Ellis is a great example of this. He was very turnover prone, and subsequently, he improved.
Also, statistics have much less predictive value in basketball. They’re pretty good at proving what is, but not always what will be. The reason for this is that more than anything else, athleticism is what wins in the NBA.
Polished, dominant college players such as JJ Redick usually are not dominant NBA Players.
The NBA is littered with players who have better stats in the Pros than they did in College.
Obviously, it would be better if he had great stats, showed the athletic promise he does, and had great character to boot…but then he wouldn’t be the 14th pick.
by ohmangoAs on Jun 29, 2008 7:08 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
JJ Redick is a terrible example here
because none of the players under legit consideration by the Warriors look anything like him. If they had drafted Chris Lofton, you could use Redick as a comp, but Lofton was undrafted. I agree that Randolph would be a better pick than Lofton.
Ryan Anderson is not Chris Lofton. Darrell Arthur is not Chris Lofton. Robin Lopez is not Chris Lofton. Ryan Anderson is probably the most polished out of that group, but even he looked like he was making post moves up on the fly half the time. If they really wanted a polished center, Roy Hibbert would have been the pick (but obviously he doesn’t work with Nelson’s style).
I agree that stats don’t tell you everything, but posting crappy stats at a low level is more predictive of failure than posting great stats is of success. If you’re great in college, you may not be great in the pros. If you suck in college, you will likely suck in the pros.
Your 2008 Athletics: It's Nothing Personal.
by PaulThomas on Jun 30, 2008 1:05 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
The Comp was merely the combination of Polish/Lack of Athleticism
Obviously not skillset or playing style.
I think that we have pretty much hashed this. It comes down to a choice between high upside athleticism, or relatively low upside production.
I’m happy with the pick. In fact, Randolph started playing in the 8th grade(!), so its not surprising his development, strength etc. are a little behind. He probably should have stayed in college.
The ultimate point is this: With his athleticism, if he had better stats, he’d be a top-8 pick. Ws have to take what they can get.
Hey, we just signed Inoa based on workouts, why not Randolph?
by ohmangoAs on Jun 30, 2008 8:00 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Inoa doesn't have like 17 statistical indicators arguing that he is going to be godawful, that's why
and if Inoa was expected to contribute immediately to the A’s, I’d be as much against his signing as I am to the Randolph pick.
The NBA draft is not the MLB process, and trying to compare the two is silly.
Your 2008 Athletics: It's Nothing Personal.
by PaulThomas on Jul 1, 2008 2:23 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Don't necesarally mind some project picks
But Mullin is making it a habit. And I don’t get the point of taking Randolph when we just got (and have rarely used) Brandon Wright last year.
by bruinhoo on Jun 27, 2008 7:44 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
I debated about this pick with a friend of mine
And he was on your side. I get the position you’re coming from, but the Warriors exhibit a kind of goofy dichotomy where they’re good enough to contend for the playoffs but simply not good enough to legitimately contend for a title; also their important stars are either really young (Ellis, Biedrins, potentially Wright) or just about on the downside of their career (Baron, Cap’n Jack).
There wasn’t a player at 14 that could come in and legitimately play a role that would have appreciably improved them from last season, there just wasn’t. Nobody available to the Warriors (including even a Jerryd Bayless or Brandon Rush who potentially could’ve slipped) would’ve broke into the main rotation and played a significant enough role to push the Warriors from a very good 9 seed in 07-08 to a title contending 5 or so seed in 08-09. It, unfortunately, just wasn’t happening.
So in lieu of all that, they took a toolsy guy who has maybe a 20% chance of being a star three or four years from now when Baron and Jackson and Harrington are long gone (and/or ineffective) and you’re looking at a core of Ellis/Biedrins/Wright/whatever. I’m fine with that approach, personally.
RagingHarden: Yeah if you get 20 starts out of me I'll be shocked. Like, I'll wreck my drawers.
by walk off bunt on Jun 28, 2008 1:02 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
It doesn't seem so bad
How can you say it’s a terrible pick? Picking 14th, you don’t have much else but project players available. It’s not like they passed on Karl Malone to pick Chris Mullin or passed on Kobe Bryant to pick Todd Fuller.
Root for the Giants? Not even if they're playing al-Qaeda!
by Monday Fan on Jun 29, 2008 1:03 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
RE: Project Players
You mean like Monta Ellis?
by methodrampage on Jun 30, 2008 9:40 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
He was a 2nd round pick
If Randolph had been available in the 2nd round, I would not argue with selecting him.
Your 2008 Athletics: It's Nothing Personal.
by PaulThomas on Jun 30, 2008 1:06 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Thanks, JLaff :)
I was about to start a DLD just so there would be one, but my only link was going to be the Inge pillow story…
There's no textbook for how to treat a geriatric tapir.
by Poppy on Jun 27, 2008 12:44 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
Inge Pillows!
"You know, a long time ago being crazy meant something. Nowadays everybody's crazy."
-Charles Manson
by kaweahkaweah on Jun 27, 2008 1:11 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
I was going to start one
but I didn’t even have the pillow story! Maybe if I had actually looked…..
There's no crying in baseball!
by gigglingone on Jun 27, 2008 1:24 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
That was the one that got my attention the most
"God doesn't pay attention to your cute little hypotheticals." -- Jeff from LL
by oblique on Jun 27, 2008 9:39 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Buster Olney: Harden fourth filthiest stuff
No. 4: Rich Harden, Oakland Athletics (nine votes): In his start against the Phillies on Thursday, he consistently threw in the 93-94 mph range in all eight innings he worked, and Philadelphia seemed to have no chance when he used his changeup—the off-speed pitch he prefers now, since ditching his splitter. A no-hitter seemed within the realm of possibility, writes Susan Slusser. Harden has 83 punchouts in 67 innings.
insider stuff
Let's have our Piazza and eat the Cust too - SPWC
by closetasfan on Jun 27, 2008 12:48 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
I guess Felix is #1
who’s 2 & 3….so Santana and Peavy?
by rh40 on Jun 27, 2008 1:50 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Lincecum and Josh Beckett
Your 2008 Athletics: It's Nothing Personal.
by PaulThomas on Jun 27, 2008 2:09 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
I wonder if there's anything to the fact that all 4 of those guys either have an injury history
Or, in Lincecum’s case, are total red flag guys for future injuries.
Is there some correlation between filthy stuff (however you would quantify that) and being injury prone?
http://bocropleasestopswingingatbadpitches.blogspot.com/
by thejd44 on Jun 29, 2008 12:56 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
A's released Calero today
Evidently he couldn’t fetch anything via trade, and obviously he wasn’t added to anyone’s 40-man roster via waivers, either.
"Let’s just hope he’s not a complete turd out there." -thejd44, describing Crosby's best scenario.
by notsellingjeans on Jun 27, 2008 1:24 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
wasn't he supposed to go to the minor leagues?
Let's have our Piazza and eat the Cust too - SPWC
by closetasfan on Jun 27, 2008 1:27 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Damn. That's it.
Anyone want some genuine MLB retirement papers signed by Kiko?
Your 2008 Athletics: It's Nothing Personal.
by PaulThomas on Jun 27, 2008 1:34 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Beautiful post
Might as well Jump! - Van Halen
by sprtsnwyn on Jun 27, 2008 2:40 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Who are we making room for?
If Kiko is released that makes an open slot on the 40-man, right?
"Dispatch knuckleheadedness with Bond-like aplomb." –74mk
by iglew on Jun 27, 2008 2:52 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Billy Lamar Beane
I generally bemoan the profusion of Mr Sabermetric Sporks in the Scrabble ranks who don't know the meaning or usage of 50% of the words they use. -monkeyball
by JediLeroy on Jun 28, 2008 9:40 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
The only BLB that's worth having.
There's no textbook for how to treat a geriatric tapir.
by Poppy on Jun 28, 2008 9:46 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
True.
Well, except for a Bacon-Lettuce-Bacon. Those are pretty delicious, too. Who needs tomatoes?
I generally bemoan the profusion of Mr Sabermetric Sporks in the Scrabble ranks who don't know the meaning or usage of 50% of the words they use. -monkeyball
by JediLeroy on Jun 28, 2008 10:39 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Going to the Minnesota State Fair this year, huh?
There's no textbook for how to treat a geriatric tapir.
by Poppy on Jun 28, 2008 1:50 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
question
what happened to Denorfia? He was reactivated and sent down and then not, but then nothing ….... is he optioned to the minors?
Let's have our Piazza and eat the Cust too - SPWC
by closetasfan on Jun 27, 2008 1:28 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
He's on the DL with some sort of recurring back issue
Your 2008 Athletics: It's Nothing Personal.
by PaulThomas on Jun 27, 2008 1:33 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Caused initially by looking back over his shoulder
Exacerbated by pushing too hard to try to catch up
"God doesn't pay attention to your cute little hypotheticals." -- Jeff from LL
by oblique on Jun 27, 2008 9:40 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
1000th post on AN!!! wooo!
And, amazingly, I have nothing important to say (hey it’s worked 999 other times for me). I think I trail the leaders by 20k-ish now?
And I’ll give this post just a little meaning. Here’s a couple of notes from my recent three-stadium East Coast baseball trip:
Camden Yards is a very nice ballpark with great food.
Yankee Stadium is big and if you go, don’t sit in the bleachers (sometimes being cheap doesn’t work out for you). They don’t connect to the rest of the ballpark and you can’t go to Monument Park or better food choices. Also you feel very out of the game, or at least I did.
Fenway is really nice and has an awesome feel, much better than Yankee Stadium. I sat in the bleachers and felt like I wasn’t the only one paying attention to every pitch. Plus it was fun watching Haren shut down the BoSox even if he wasn’t doing it for the green and gold.
Also, it’s really fun watching A’s baseball on TV on vacation (seeing a couple of the games in Philly on tv).
"Loyal? I'm the most loyal player money can buy." - Don Sutton
by vignette17 on Jun 27, 2008 1:30 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
It was like that here, too.
For many years the bleachers were fenced off from the rest of the seats at the Oakland Coliseum.
Root for the Giants? Not even if they're playing al-Qaeda!
by Monday Fan on Jun 29, 2008 1:09 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
I wonder how many country fans
would consider rap their next-favorite type of music?
For the record, I chose rock, which beats scissors. Unfortunately the whole thing was covered by the paper.
It's Rhodes Scholar Night at the Coliseum tonight.
by Scottbass on Jun 27, 2008 2:11 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
Oddly this is the post that gets me to register but that is my order of pref country then rap. Yep not a normal choice.
by Copenhagen on Jun 27, 2008 6:56 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Swish just hit a grand slam, 8-0 White Sox
There’s a huge poster of him in the Sox dugout… giveaway or something?
He also has a dance with Orlando Cabrera, similar to the Bradley dance, but they do the Captain Morgan pose at the end.
by JLaff on Jun 27, 2008 2:16 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
I posted before seeing your post
so I’m not the only one who was watching ;-)
by OaklandSi on Jun 27, 2008 2:18 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
ex-A's news flash
Swish just hit a grand slam off Dempster and the Cubs at Kominsky in the third inning…funny, it seemed like it was going to happen, it wasn’t a surprise…nice for Swish…(and he has a new version of the HR handshake with Orlando Cabrera)
by OaklandSi on Jun 27, 2008 2:17 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
Yeah
That new HR shake was awesome.
Might as well Jump! - Van Halen
by sprtsnwyn on Jun 27, 2008 2:41 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
He has a couple different ones, depending on the Sox player he's celebrating with
http://bocropleasestopswingingatbadpitches.blogspot.com/
by thejd44 on Jun 29, 2008 12:58 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Billy Bean Trade history on MLB trade rumors
http://www.mlbtraderumors.com/2008/06/gm-trade-histor.html
Let's have our Piazza and eat the Cust too - SPWC
by closetasfan on Jun 27, 2008 2:42 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
Sideshow Robin
So described by the Chron:
How do the angels get to sleep when the devil leaves the porchlight on?
by FreeSeatUpgrade on Jun 27, 2008 2:55 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
"the" Stern, "the"
Can an aging lemur suffer from dementia? @('.')@
by monkeyball on Jun 27, 2008 2:57 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
lol
(Formerly Nobody Girl)
"We are a complete freak show." -- Billy Beane
by day-to-day on Jun 27, 2008 4:25 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
dammit
I should have said “the star, the”
Can an aging lemur suffer from dementia? @('.')@
by monkeyball on Jun 27, 2008 4:27 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
The best was Brook
comparing himself to Brady Quinn on camera..that was classic.
Bring back Hammer.
by OaktownPower on Jun 27, 2008 3:49 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
As if the world weren't scary enough.
Bee decline threatens ice cream production.
Pineapple Poppy Seed
by Ice Cream on Jun 27, 2008 3:11 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
From the article
Federal research dollars are beginning to flow and will jump dramatically with the newly passed farm bill, but scientists remain baffled about the cause of pollinator decline. The problem extends not just to the commercialized honeybee imported from Europe 400 years ago but, etymologists say, to other native pollinators.
What you really mean, etymologists say, is entomologists.
"Dispatch knuckleheadedness with Bond-like aplomb." –74mk
by iglew on Jun 27, 2008 3:21 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Etymologists say, "Why the hell are you asking us about bugs?"
There's no textbook for how to treat a geriatric tapir.
by Poppy on Jun 27, 2008 3:42 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
if the bee-decline was threatening the production of baked goods ...
... they could interview entenmannologists.
Can an aging lemur suffer from dementia? @('.')@
by monkeyball on Jun 27, 2008 4:25 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
And ...
if the bee decline is threatening the production of baked goods with shell-covered chocolates inside favored by a certain white hiphop artist, they could interview mandmeminementenmannologists.
"You know, a long time ago being crazy meant something. Nowadays everybody's crazy."
-Charles Manson
by kaweahkaweah on Jun 27, 2008 4:41 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
And when, after seeing several bees in one garden at one time they
shift their opinion 180°, then they’d be madmongoosemandmeminementenmannologists.
How do the angels get to sleep when the devil leaves the porchlight on?
by FreeSeatUpgrade on Jun 27, 2008 4:56 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
and if this sort of thing was common practice at LL, then we'd be ...
madmongoosedeadmememandmeminementenmannologists
Can an aging lemur suffer from dementia? @('.')@
by monkeyball on Jun 27, 2008 5:09 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
and if Marshall Mathers adds some anal purgatives ...
madmongoosedeadmememandmeminemenemasentenmannologists
Pineapple Poppy Seed
by Ice Cream on Jun 27, 2008 5:52 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
and takes his first Broadway role in a G&S revival
madmongoosedeadmememandmeminemenemamadamebutterflyentenmannologists
Can an aging lemur suffer from dementia? @('.')@
by monkeyball on Jun 27, 2008 6:05 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
and performs it in silence while gesturing a Beatles tune
madmongoosedeadmememandmeminemenemymeminemimemamadamebutterflyentenmannologists
"You know, a long time ago being crazy meant something. Nowadays everybody's crazy."
-Charles Manson
by kaweahkaweah on Jun 27, 2008 6:43 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Shouldn't this be
madmongoosedeadmememandmeminemenemamikadoentenmannologists?
"...in baseball you wear a cap." -- george carlin
by Hot Cup Joe on Jun 27, 2008 8:02 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Granted, I'm having trouble reading these big words,
but are you saying Madame Butterfly is G&S??
"Dispatch knuckleheadedness with Bond-like aplomb." –74mk
by iglew on Jun 27, 2008 10:01 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
I think he meant
madmongoosedeadmememandmeminemenemamikadoentenmannologists
by green star oakland on Jun 27, 2008 11:48 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Peter Gammons names a few A's in his surprises of the season so far
Ziggy for not allowing a run in his first month
A few people mentioning Rich Harden as the MVP of the World Series
Duke for being #7 on his surprises list
Trevor Cahill being a surprise contributor in the 2nd half
Insider only I think (which I got for $5 for the year!)
http://insider.espn.go.com/espn/blog/index?name=gammons_peter
Let's have our Piazza and eat the Cust too - SPWC
by closetasfan on Jun 27, 2008 6:12 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
Whoever named Cahill as a surprise contributor
(and it’s not Gammons, it’s some GM or office person he talked to) is on crack. I could see a surprise contribution at the end of 2009 (a la Matt Cain in 2005). Not this year.
Your 2008 Athletics: It's Nothing Personal.
by PaulThomas on Jun 27, 2008 6:22 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
what if Harden is traded?
Perhaps Gaudin as well?
Can an aging lemur suffer from dementia? @('.')@
by monkeyball on Jun 27, 2008 6:33 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
If both of them go, Braden or, maybe, Gio are next in line
I can’t see any way the A’s blow Cahill’s service time at age 20 and use up a 40-man roster spot unnecessarily. He’s not that likely to be better than the next available alternative at this point. Heck, Mazzaro would make more sense as a late callup than Cahill would.
Your 2008 Athletics: It's Nothing Personal.
by PaulThomas on Jun 27, 2008 9:49 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Gio would be a disaster this year
Honestly, I’d rather see Saarloos or DiNardo again than Gio. I assume that if Harden and Gaudin were both traded, Beane would get at least 1 major league ready starter back.
You're older than you've ever been. And now you're even older. And now you're older still.
by Swooney's Left Foot on Jun 27, 2008 11:27 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Actually, once you filter out Gio's starts at high altitudes
his stats don’t look that bad. That may be a coincidence, but it may not be, especially since he’s a pitcher who relies on his curveball.
Your 2008 Athletics: It's Nothing Personal.
by PaulThomas on Jun 28, 2008 9:36 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Monkeyball!
The revolution is at hand! Liberation is coming!
Florida ain't no place for a self-respecting A's fan.
by Leopold Bloom on Jun 28, 2008 9:04 AM PDT reply actions 0 recs
I'm waiting for the right of apes to own firearms to be established
Can an aging lemur suffer from dementia? @('.')@
by monkeyball on Jun 28, 2008 2:25 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Justice Scalia?
You're older than you've ever been. And now you're even older. And now you're older still.
by Swooney's Left Foot on Jun 28, 2008 2:39 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Eddie Izzard
Florida ain't no place for a self-respecting A's fan.
by Leopold Bloom on Jun 28, 2008 8:27 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
I love that man
Can an aging lemur suffer from dementia? @('.')@
by monkeyball on Jun 28, 2008 9:10 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
I guess I'm the lone classical guy
Indie Rock is probably what I listen to the most (Elliott Smith, Brendan Benson, etc.) right now, but classical has always been my favorite. Gotta love some good old-fashioned rock-&-roll, too.
I generally bemoan the profusion of Mr Sabermetric Sporks in the Scrabble ranks who don't know the meaning or usage of 50% of the words they use. -monkeyball
by JediLeroy on Jun 28, 2008 9:33 AM PDT reply actions 0 recs
My favorite music is "classical"
in the broader sense which is probably intended in this context.
I didn’t vote in the poll, because I didn’t think I could give a meaningful answer. “Classical” is such a huge category. Some of it I really love, some I don’t care for at all. I mostly like late romantic symphonic (and choral) works. Anything from about Bach through Beethoven — which encompasses all of “classical” in the more precise sense) — does nothing for me, and many classical radio stations play nothing but that.
"Dispatch knuckleheadedness with Bond-like aplomb." –74mk
by iglew on Jun 29, 2008 12:34 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
I'm mostly a fan of Romantic era piano and symphonic works.
But I’m a huge fan of neoclassical stuff as well.
I generally bemoan the profusion of Mr Sabermetric Sporks in the Scrabble ranks who don't know the meaning or usage of 50% of the words they use. -monkeyball
by JediLeroy on Jun 29, 2008 3:42 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
anyone see the fanshot on
hilarious
"The two of them deserve each other. One's a born liar, the other's convicted."
by SwampyD on Jun 28, 2008 9:51 AM PDT reply actions 0 recs
That was fun
Thanks~
Florida ain't no place for a self-respecting A's fan.
by Leopold Bloom on Jun 28, 2008 11:07 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
From mlbtraderumors.com
Rich Harden struck out 11 in eight shutout innings in front of a number of scouts two nights ago. Also Joe Blanton and Chad Gaudin have heard trade rumors about themselves. Gaudin is “convinced that he’s going to be traded.”
You're older than you've ever been. And now you're even older. And now you're older still.
by Swooney's Left Foot on Jun 28, 2008 12:08 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
MLBTradeRumors will quote anybody
so you have to look at the source. This time the source is the “Trade Talk” section of MLBlogs (which seems to be a wannabe rival of Blez’s SBNation). Most of the posts there are signed by a beat writer, so you know who the reporter is. A few of them, including this one about Gaudin, are unsigned.
The unsigned ones make me wonder: who is writing this? Is it just some anonymous fan with a speculative opinion and no real sources? I’m not saying a fan is necessarily less reliable than a beat writer. We’ve seen right here on AN that occasionally a non-professional really does know something. I’m just saying that if it’s unsigned and unsourced, you really have no idea.
"Dispatch knuckleheadedness with Bond-like aplomb." –74mk
by iglew on Jun 29, 2008 12:44 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Pavement is the best band ever
That’s all I have to say about music.
If Gaudin gets traded it’ll be a real shame, considering he’s better than Eveland and Smith and all.
RagingHarden: Yeah if you get 20 starts out of me I'll be shocked. Like, I'll wreck my drawers.
by walk off bunt on Jun 28, 2008 1:10 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
Cut your pitcher
Their starter is lame
In his career, career, career….
Children, until we have taught them better, will be perfectly happy with a seasonal round of games in which conkers succeeds hopscotch.
by salb918 on Jun 28, 2008 2:01 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Cut your pitcher
Their starter is lame
He’s Correia, Correia, Correia…
Children, until we have taught them better, will be perfectly happy with a seasonal round of games in which conkers succeeds hopscotch.
by salb918 on Jun 28, 2008 2:02 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Cut your eye
Really gonna hurt
Your cornea, cornea, cornea….
RagingHarden: Yeah if you get 20 starts out of me I'll be shocked. Like, I'll wreck my drawers.
by walk off bunt on Jun 28, 2008 2:47 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
There are no "best" bands
We have our favorites but no style of music or band is “better” than another. It’s all subjective. I do like Pavement, though.
Root for the Giants? Not even if they're playing al-Qaeda!
by Monday Fan on Jun 29, 2008 1:20 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Saturday's television broadcast
Um, does anyone know why the evil Comcast Corporation would prevent me from seeing my beloved A’s this evening? I am not seeing the game listed. Is it a misprint or some sort of personalized attack on me? (those are the only choices, BTW) What is the game being broadcast on locally?.
Florida ain't no place for a self-respecting A's fan.
by Leopold Bloom on Jun 28, 2008 2:05 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
Effing a, man!
What am I supposed to do now? GO out? Pshaw. I’ve been “conserving” my energy for tonight’s game! Bat shit!
"JOAN! Are you watching Bombast? Did you see Lack Bust drop that fly call?"
by Jennifer on Jun 28, 2008 2:39 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Want a tape-delay?
We won’t talk about the game until after I’ve gone to the post office and mailed it to you…
There's no textbook for how to treat a geriatric tapir.
by Poppy on Jun 28, 2008 2:50 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
2 local channels,
kntv and kicu.
The A's colors are green and gold.
by mikeA on Jun 28, 2008 2:08 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
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