Open Thread: Game 75 - A's vs. Marlins
by Taj Adib on Jun 22, 2008 1:00 PM PDT
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PrintMiami Marlins at Oakland Athletics, Jun 22, 2008 1:05 PM PDT
After a very frustrating late-inning collapse last night, the A's will look to salvage a series win today on the back of Justin Duchscherer. The Duke (7-4, 2.08 ERA) is being talked about as possibly being the A's lone representative at the All Star Game. He's having a remarkable year, and as a guy who has never thrown 90'mph in his life, he's already had a remarkable career. So far, he's been the ultimate "Moneyball" player: widely overlooked by "traditionalists" due to his lack of velocity, but coveted by many due to the fact that he just plain knows how to get hitters out.
Unfortunately for us A's fans, the rumor mill is predicting that the Duke might be traded sometime this summer. And if you really think about it, it makes a lot of sense to shop him. He's proven to be an extremely versatile pitcher, able to perform at a very high-level at whatever role he is needed: long relief, set-up, closing and now starting. He's arbitration-eligible and under team control for this year and next year and is costing the team a grand total of $1.2 million for the whole package! For teams that are in need of cheap starting pitching but are unimpressed with Joe Blanton and are scared of Rich Harden's injury history, the Duke would seem to be a reasonable alternative. So, with a few weeks to go before the trade deadline, let's all make sure we thoroughly enjoy and don't take for granted every inning that the Duke throws for the Green & Gold.
Opposing the Duke and the rest of the A's will be Andrew Miller, a gargantuan southpaw that was one of the key pieces in the most recent Marlins' fire sale that saw the Fish send Miggy Cabrera and Dontrelle Willis to Motown for a package of prospects. Andrew's been somewhat inconsistent this season, as he's 5-5 with a 4.87 ERA overall; however, he's pitched extremely well as of late, going 7 innings in both of his most recent starts, striking out 9, walking only 3 and only allowing 2 runs total in that span. Let's hope Andrew's mo' was left east of the Mississippi, since as a lefty with good stuff, he could prove to be Grim Reaperian to the A's lefty-heavy lineup.
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Oh, hi....
So I don’t get this big empty game thread all to myself?
"Dispatch knuckleheadedness with Bond-like aplomb." –74mk
I wonder if that's a flaw in the lineup widget.
It’s happened several times since Swooney came back. I could see if the poster goofed up once, but it’s hard to believe they’re making the same mistake repeatedly.
"Dispatch knuckleheadedness with Bond-like aplomb." –74mk
Angels winning sighting - what else is new?
Marlins HR sighting – what else is new?
Why do I torment myself with baseball?
GO A’S!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
I like Cindi. A. She never pretends to know more than she does. B. She has unbridled enthusiasm for her "Hotties," and isn't afraid to show it. -IM4Oakgal
Fishballs Flying OUT
another HR, 1-0 Marlins.
Our guys foul those pitches off.
Their guys hit them out.
"I never predict anything, and I never will." Paul Gascoigne, English footballer
by One won lost won on Jun 22, 2008 1:11 PM PDT reply actions
Duchscherer ERA watch
current ERA = 2.18
innings needed to qualify = 4.2
"Dispatch knuckleheadedness with Bond-like aplomb." –74mk
That's the kind of AB that can win a game (later)
without it being provable.
I like Cindi. A. She never pretends to know more than she does. B. She has unbridled enthusiasm for her "Hotties," and isn't afraid to show it. -IM4Oakgal
Damn, HR already?!?!
First game I’ve gotten to watch in 5 days!
pam5981: Patience is a virtue that I do not possess.
ohtobe21likehuston: But you're good at drinking and cussing. Two out of three ain't bad.
BoCro!
pam5981: Patience is a virtue that I do not possess.
ohtobe21likehuston: But you're good at drinking and cussing. Two out of three ain't bad.
He is toying with Powell, look bad for several at bats
then do something decent that keeps him around for a while longer
Kurt looked for a successful hitter
to emulate, and he found him…
Vlad Guerrero
"I never predict anything, and I never will." Paul Gascoigne, English footballer
by One won lost won on Jun 22, 2008 1:25 PM PDT up reply actions
Nice swing Croz.
He didn’t try too hard to pull that one. AMAZING what happens when goes with the pitch.
It was hit as pitched
97 mph? Good form on a very fast pitch.
"I never predict anything, and I never will." Paul Gascoigne, English footballer
by One won lost won on Jun 22, 2008 1:27 PM PDT up reply actions
I believe they are close
to the top in DPs, no?
I’ll check BR.
"I never predict anything, and I never will." Paul Gascoigne, English footballer
by One won lost won on Jun 22, 2008 1:34 PM PDT up reply actions
Okay, we are down in the
bottom half, but something like 8th or 9th.
Could have more to do with good pitching, not letting runners get on.
"I never predict anything, and I never will." Paul Gascoigne, English footballer
by One won lost won on Jun 22, 2008 1:37 PM PDT up reply actions
in that last inning, two groundball force outs, no DP
I wonder if it has something to do with Crosby’s flip or Ellis’ transfer.
DPs can really help the pitchers get out of jams or lower their pitch count.
This year the A’s are not doing well in that category
The guy who tweaked Barton's hamstring
and made Rajai Davis suck.
I like Cindi. A. She never pretends to know more than she does. B. She has unbridled enthusiasm for her "Hotties," and isn't afraid to show it. -IM4Oakgal
Wow! Emil going for Reggie Jackson's record!
"Dispatch knuckleheadedness with Bond-like aplomb." –74mk
Well that sucked.
pam5981: Patience is a virtue that I do not possess.
ohtobe21likehuston: But you're good at drinking and cussing. Two out of three ain't bad.
Duchscherer ERA watch
current ERA = 2.12
innings needed to qualify = 2.2
"Dispatch knuckleheadedness with Bond-like aplomb." –74mk
Nothing like a passed ball/run to wake up a game thread....
right?
pam5981: Patience is a virtue that I do not possess.
ohtobe21likehuston: But you're good at drinking and cussing. Two out of three ain't bad.
Please, there may be children reading -
That’s “INTERCOURSE YES!!!!”
I like Cindi. A. She never pretends to know more than she does. B. She has unbridled enthusiasm for her "Hotties," and isn't afraid to show it. -IM4Oakgal
Ray Fosse
Cannot pronounce Hermida’s name. He makes it sound like something you pick up in Tiajuana.
"Their batters are patient to the point that it's annoying." -Ryan Franklin
RBI MACHINE!!!!
(dfa Brown now)
I like Cindi. A. She never pretends to know more than she does. B. She has unbridled enthusiasm for her "Hotties," and isn't afraid to show it. -IM4Oakgal
So the defense taketh away,
and the defense giveth. I’ll taketh two out of three-eth in the series, so I dost be pleased(eth).
I like Cindi. A. She never pretends to know more than she does. B. She has unbridled enthusiasm for her "Hotties," and isn't afraid to show it. -IM4Oakgal
Wow.
My Internet connection died blinked out. When I got it going again, we suddenly had four more runs!
"Dispatch knuckleheadedness with Bond-like aplomb." –74mk
It's been shaky for the whole game.
I can’t tell if this thread is really really sleepy or if I’m just not getting updates promptly.
And I keep having to reset the audio feed, when it skips and goes back.
"Dispatch knuckleheadedness with Bond-like aplomb." –74mk
Zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz
pam5981: Patience is a virtue that I do not possess.
ohtobe21likehuston: But you're good at drinking and cussing. Two out of three ain't bad.
Seriously, what's the story on Barton?
I thought he was just getting some time off, but it seems like it’s been a few days now. Is he officially benched?
"Dispatch knuckleheadedness with Bond-like aplomb." –74mk
Anybody following the Giants game?
Giants about to blow a 5 run lead with a game started by Lincecum.
A's, baby!
I was about to post earlier, if anyone saw the bad call
Bottom of the fifth, 2 outs, runners on and Lincecum on the hill with a 3-2 count on Aviles (sp). Ball four and a mini check swing and YET the ump immediately calls strike 3. The bat barely left his shoulder. The fans have been booing every non-KC call since…
by SwisherThresher on Jun 22, 2008 2:11 PM PDT up reply actions
I like the uniforms.
Lincecum looked 12.
"JOAN! Are you watching Bombast? Did you see Lack Bust drop that fly call?"
lol @ Giants meltdown, going on right now
Bases loaded no outs for KC.
"We were s--, pathetic," Guillen growled early in spring training. "We hit too many home runs."
Duchscherer ERA watch
current ERA = 2.09
innings needed to qualify = 1.2
"Dispatch knuckleheadedness with Bond-like aplomb." –74mk
2 bagger for Ellis who is looking good tonight
one of the other teams in the AL West need to get Miller so we can face him several times a year
Vida is pretty awesome.
Just told a story about Charlie Finley giving him a gas card that he used to buy gas for his entire neighborhood back in the day. Awesome.
his neighborhood must have had a population of 2
and gas must have been $0.01 a gallon.
Pessimism FTW! ... Wait what?
Italy Just Lost to Spain in a Shootout...
...in the quarter finals of the European championships (the game was a scoreless tie through overtime).
This makes me very happy.
Italian soccer=Yankees baseball=Lakers basketball=Cowboys football
Putting the "N" in "NRAF" from Leipzig, Germany!
by GreenNGoldSooner on Jun 22, 2008 2:24 PM PDT reply actions
0-0 Soccer games = why I prefer watching paint dry
Although the Turks have been very exciting so far
That's not true at all. Italy play negative football, but it's effective and they rarely
fail to produce the goods when it matters. – that’s a commendable trait. I’m happy for Spain, I thought they were going to fail to beat Italy despite playing the better football – it was a bad matchup for them because the Italians are so strong defensively and always liable to nick a goal somewhere.
What's not true?
My point was: I can’t stand the Azzurri, just as I can’t stand the Yankees, Cowboys, and Lakers.
And they’re worth hating in part because their very negative football is very effective.
Putting the "N" in "NRAF" from Leipzig, Germany!
by GreenNGoldSooner on Jun 22, 2008 2:35 PM PDT up reply actions
So you have an irrational hate for the Italians, fair enough. All the teams you listed have
a history of success, hence my post.
Certainly no more irrational than any other sports hatred.
And given the history of corruption, racism, and dirty play in Italian football, I’d say that it’s a little more rational than most sports hatreds.
Putting the "N" in "NRAF" from Leipzig, Germany!
by GreenNGoldSooner on Jun 22, 2008 2:53 PM PDT up reply actions
Here you go, iglew:
Barton day-to-day with sore hamstring
pam5981: Patience is a virtue that I do not possess.
ohtobe21likehuston: But you're good at drinking and cussing. Two out of three ain't bad.
that's unfortunate for the A's
just as someone is starting to get hot, he ends up on the DL, Sweeney, Thomas,
Is it the 6th?
Was that 5.2? Is Duke still in?
"Dispatch knuckleheadedness with Bond-like aplomb." –74mk
Just for kicks, I looked up Vida Blue's MVP 1971 stats.
24-8, 1.82 ERA, 301 strikeouts/88 walks, 312 Innings Pitched.
Anybody think that there will ever be another pitcher to pitch 300 innings and/or strike out 300 batters in one season?
I think we fell into a 1981 time warp!
A's, baby!
by Coach Cleats on Jun 22, 2008 2:56 PM PDT up reply actions
Rabelo is really, really hoping
that any minute now, the phone will ring with the wake-up call, and then it will be time to go have breakfast and then head out to the Coliseum for today’s game vs. the A’s.
just stopped in to say
EFF U Emil Brown.
"The two of them deserve each other. One's a born liar, the other's convicted."
For those watching on Gamecast
Why on earth does Wes Helms get the school picture background? And doesn’t Uggla look scary in his picture?
Helms got a glamour shot
it cost more but he’s worth it
Wow Cupcakes numbers = Barry Zito
"The two of them deserve each other. One's a born liar, the other's convicted."
Why are there rumors about Duke?
I say stand pat with this team. Maybe trade Emil but noone else. The Duke is too important to us. I really think this team as constructed can compete with the Angels all year. Who woulda thunk it? Only 4.5 out at the end of June! Amazing!
by A'sfansince1970 on Jun 22, 2008 3:08 PM PDT reply actions
So the question is
Do they have a Justin Duchscherer player’s tee at the Coliseum? I so need one of those. He’s been one of my faves for a long time. It’s time I represent.
by Tyler Bleszinski on Jun 22, 2008 3:08 PM PDT reply actions
Course now that I said that, he'll be traded
by Tyler Bleszinski on Jun 22, 2008 3:08 PM PDT up reply actions
yeah
It’ll be like a split Wash/Atl/Oak top
"The two of them deserve each other. One's a born liar, the other's convicted."
or
a cap split up “Wash/Atl/Oak”
"I never predict anything, and I never will." Paul Gascoigne, English footballer
by One won lost won on Jun 22, 2008 3:16 PM PDT up reply actions
I learned a long time ago..
as I look at my Giambi jersey sitting in my closet that I will NEVER get a player’s name put on the back of a jersey. Only my name, as I will always be a fan. Players come and go.
by A'sfansince1970 on Jun 22, 2008 3:10 PM PDT reply actions
That's why I'd just get a player's tee
rather than a jersey. I’ve only owned two Chavez jerseys and one Zito. And I actually sold my Zito jersey when he left. I couldn’t bear to look at it any more.
by Tyler Bleszinski on Jun 22, 2008 3:12 PM PDT up reply actions
I actually like watching him now
Because I can’t help but be happy when someone gets grossly overpaid for ridiculous unperformance. It’s a cautionary tale that I hope that all owners will learn from.
Alas they never do.
by Tyler Bleszinski on Jun 22, 2008 3:20 PM PDT up reply actions
I've that Eckersley
jersey from a give-away. That’s still good.
"I never predict anything, and I never will." Paul Gascoigne, English footballer
by One won lost won on Jun 22, 2008 3:16 PM PDT up reply actions
I do like the look of the Vida Blue jersey
Nice Yellow! He’s so freaking cool, too.
by A'sfansince1970 on Jun 22, 2008 3:12 PM PDT reply actions
Since Billy hasn't done it yet,
let’s help out. We can write a letter to Emil claiming to be from Billy, informing him he’s been DFA’d. Maybe we can get him to pack his shit up and go. Brilliant idea I know.
"The two of them deserve each other. One's a born liar, the other's convicted."
Chavy's looking great this year!
What’s this all about? He just looks more confident then ever. I hope it holds up.
by A'sfansince1970 on Jun 22, 2008 3:14 PM PDT reply actions
it's because he knows he's getting paid too much to be traded
"The two of them deserve each other. One's a born liar, the other's convicted."
Perhaps he's just feeling better after getting all of his
various ailments fixed.
by Tyler Bleszinski on Jun 22, 2008 3:15 PM PDT up reply actions
Oh Ellis
ejectored
white esurance sign behind home plate..oh so that’s why durham is an absolutely terrible defensive second baseman.. - xbhaskarx
That was ridiculous!!
pam5981: Patience is a virtue that I do not possess.
ohtobe21likehuston: But you're good at drinking and cussing. Two out of three ain't bad.
ellis gets ejectored after a questionable strike 3
Geren comes in and goes b!tch cakes on lance barksdale
white esurance sign behind home plate..oh so that’s why durham is an absolutely terrible defensive second baseman.. - xbhaskarx
Pitch was NOT close.
pam5981: Patience is a virtue that I do not possess.
ohtobe21likehuston: But you're good at drinking and cussing. Two out of three ain't bad.
I say questionable
because the umps are never wrong
white esurance sign behind home plate..oh so that’s why durham is an absolutely terrible defensive second baseman.. - xbhaskarx
Sorry - wasn't disagreeing with you
just clarifying
pam5981: Patience is a virtue that I do not possess.
ohtobe21likehuston: But you're good at drinking and cussing. Two out of three ain't bad.
Holy Crap!
Elly just got thrown out of the game! Geren is in the ump’s face. Terrible strikezone for Ellis in the entire at-bat. Two pitches that were clearly high.
With an electronic strike zone
Ellis would still be in the game.
And, on first base.
Apparently, Scott Kazmir bitched about an ump they nicknamed “shoebox”.
Apparently the ump is reluctant to call a third strike, and so his strike zone shrinks to the size of a “shoebox”.
Obviously, not the case here.
"I never predict anything, and I never will." Paul Gascoigne, English footballer
by One won lost won on Jun 22, 2008 3:28 PM PDT up reply actions
ok so both are ejected?
"The two of them deserve each other. One's a born liar, the other's convicted."
I really can't stand baseball umpires
They’re so freaking combative and think the game is all about them.
by Tyler Bleszinski on Jun 22, 2008 3:23 PM PDT reply actions
Honestly, I prefer them to NFL/NBA refs
I hate how NFL refs just sit there and take it all game every game. And NBA refs are a joke.
Arguing has always been part of the game
and the umpires’ declining tolerance for arguing is something that has really been noticeable in the last 10 years or so.
I think I recall a couple of umps
who got into fistfights with managers and/or players. This is way back, 1920s, 1940s.
You won’t see that anymore.
"I never predict anything, and I never will." Paul Gascoigne, English footballer
by One won lost won on Jun 22, 2008 3:36 PM PDT up reply actions
Chipper Jones has said that about the umpires
in the press more then once. Never got suspended or fined either, so I’m thinking baseball knows there’s a problem they just refuse to do anything about it.
Read "Planet of the Umps"
There is such competition for so few jobs, of course they think it’s all about them.
"I never predict anything, and I never will." Paul Gascoigne, English footballer
by One won lost won on Jun 22, 2008 3:34 PM PDT up reply actions
Defensive moves:
Hanny to 3rd, Murphy to 2nd, Barton to 1st
white esurance sign behind home plate..oh so that’s why durham is an absolutely terrible defensive second baseman.. - xbhaskarx
Was Macha ever thrown out during his tenure?
by Tyler Bleszinski on Jun 22, 2008 3:25 PM PDT reply actions
this is the incident i remember
Macha ejected. He wasn’t even heated or yelling from what I can remember.
Don Wakamatsu
ITS WAKA TIME
white esurance sign behind home plate..oh so that’s why durham is an absolutely terrible defensive second baseman.. - xbhaskarx
They call me
Can you believe that Comcast has blacked out the Florida (Miami) game here in Sarasota? It’s like four hours away…
Florida ain't no place for a self-respecting A's fan.
by Leopold Bloom on Jun 22, 2008 3:29 PM PDT up reply actions
did you say comcast?
then yes…yes i do believe it
white esurance sign behind home plate..oh so that’s why durham is an absolutely terrible defensive second baseman.. - xbhaskarx
I live...
in Jacksonville and I have it on the Comcast Sun Sports HD Channel
First time ever, I believe
According to the radio broadcast.
Wow, fun game to walk into
Big lead, pissed off Ellis… this one’s got it all.
President and CEO of the Ryan Sweeney Apologists Consortium
You might need to throw in more
than your ass to get duke
note: i’m ignoring you comma
white esurance sign behind home plate..oh so that’s why durham is an absolutely terrible defensive second baseman.. - xbhaskarx
wheres that strike at now, blue?
white esurance sign behind home plate..oh so that’s why durham is an absolutely terrible defensive second baseman.. - xbhaskarx
I'll give him a golf clap
I’m still pissed at him for choosing the hideous black uniforms.
Root for the Giants? Not even if they're playing al-Qaeda!
The Duke rocks!
When’s the last time the same player was in the ASG as a reliever and a starter? Was it Eck? Duke get’s so pissed off when he gives up a hit. He’s such a perfectionist!
by A'sfansince1970 on Jun 22, 2008 3:31 PM PDT reply actions
He's doing the between-starts throwing
that ordinarily he would have done at 11:30 this morning. He held off in case they needed him to pitch an inning in the game; now that won’t be necessary.
He is going to start every 5 th day and he will be the closer on every other day...lol
There is no A in OFFENSE!!
by wacchampions on Jun 22, 2008 3:38 PM PDT up reply actions
Not over it
Since it doesn’t matter, how about orange and black with a big SF on it?
Root for the Giants? Not even if they're playing al-Qaeda!
by Monday Fan on Jun 22, 2008 3:34 PM PDT reply actions 1 recs
Then wouldn't they be playing
for the giants?
white esurance sign behind home plate..oh so that’s why durham is an absolutely terrible defensive second baseman.. - xbhaskarx
Nope
The Giants wore uniforms with “CB” on them today.
Root for the Giants? Not even if they're playing al-Qaeda!
I find it hilarious that Blanton is warming up in the bullpen..What is that???
There is no A in OFFENSE!!
between starts, getting work in
according to Ken Korach. Could pitch in the game, IFIFIFIFIFIFIFIF it reallyreallyreally became necessary.
"I never predict anything, and I never will." Paul Gascoigne, English footballer
by One won lost won on Jun 22, 2008 3:39 PM PDT up reply actions
it's the usual
pre-trade bullpen session
"The two of them deserve each other. One's a born liar, the other's convicted."
"pie-trade bullpen session"
Now I haven’t heard of that terminology…
uuuhhhh, I need my glasses.. NOT “pie”, but “pre”.
"I never predict anything, and I never will." Paul Gascoigne, English footballer
by One won lost won on Jun 22, 2008 3:43 PM PDT up reply actions
dung
white esurance sign behind home plate..oh so that’s why durham is an absolutely terrible defensive second baseman.. - xbhaskarx
Why is mlb.com's Gameday showing a bottom of the 9th...
...for the A’s?
According to them, it was a one-two-three inning!
Putting the "N" in "NRAF" from Leipzig, Germany!
by GreenNGoldSooner on Jun 22, 2008 3:48 PM PDT reply actions
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