Open Game Thread - Game 74: A's vs. Marlins (cont.)
A's up 3-2 going to the bottom of the 7th. Eveland struggled, but got more effective as the game went on. Ziggy finished off the Marlins in the top of the inning.
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Ziggy needs to start the 8th
I am not wanting Uggla going are deep HRing leading off 7th. Pardon the translation being from others language.
I like Cindi. A. She never pretends to know more than she does. B. She has unbridled enthusiasm for her "Hotties," and isn't afraid to show it. -IM4Oakgal
translation: "Could Get Uggla"
I think that’s what you’re attempting to transmit…
"I never predict anything, and I never will." Paul Gascoigne, English footballer
by One won lost won on Jun 21, 2008 8:09 PM PDT up reply actions
Geren will probably use Casilla for the 8th and throw Street for the 9th.
by Coffee13eans on Jun 21, 2008 8:09 PM PDT up reply actions
Raj has grown on me
Do they have a pill for that?
President and CEO of the Ryan Sweeney Apologists Consortium
no, just use a razor
"The two of them deserve each other. One's a born liar, the other's convicted."
Can't we settle for shampoo and a special comb?
President and CEO of the Ryan Sweeney Apologists Consortium
Those caution-to-the-wind steals...
Dig.
President and CEO of the Ryan Sweeney Apologists Consortium
Embree
coming in
"I never predict anything, and I never will." Paul Gascoigne, English footballer
by One won lost won on Jun 21, 2008 8:15 PM PDT reply actions
MOOT
Uggla flies out.
Who knew??!
"I never predict anything, and I never will." Paul Gascoigne, English footballer
by One won lost won on Jun 21, 2008 8:18 PM PDT up reply actions
I'd reaaaallllly prefer Ziggy to Uggla
and THEN Embree. Please back-don’t fire.
I like Cindi. A. She never pretends to know more than she does. B. She has unbridled enthusiasm for her "Hotties," and isn't afraid to show it. -IM4Oakgal
+2
now two outs. One pitch, ground to first.
"I never predict anything, and I never will." Paul Gascoigne, English footballer
by One won lost won on Jun 21, 2008 8:19 PM PDT up reply actions
no, only Joe Blanton has that.
"The two of them deserve each other. One's a born liar, the other's convicted."
Oops! Ross HR, ties it up
2-2 pitch
"I never predict anything, and I never will." Paul Gascoigne, English footballer
by One won lost won on Jun 21, 2008 8:21 PM PDT reply actions
Nonsense
My office overlooks a pond with lots of ducks, and I’ve seen them out there going at it on several occasions. The actual encounter doesn’t last very long, just a few seconds, but you get plenty of warning with their pre-coital courtship ritual.
I’ve never seen the geese in action, though.
"Dispatch knuckleheadedness with Bond-like aplomb." –74mk
The pitch before was a borderline strike 3
about 2 inches too low but close
Greetings kapers!
Don't blame me, I voted for Ice Cream
by Englishmajor on Jun 21, 2008 8:23 PM PDT up reply actions
3-3
on an unexpected HR. Bottom of 8th.
No win for Eveland
"I never predict anything, and I never will." Paul Gascoigne, English footballer
by One won lost won on Jun 21, 2008 8:22 PM PDT reply actions
C'mon an idiot can figure this out.
You have a pitcher who only gets groundballs (Ziegler).
You’re facing a team that hits a bunch of home runs.
So you replace the groundball pitcher with a worse pitcher???
"We were s--, pathetic," Guillen growled early in spring training. "We hit too many home runs."
Well, Ziggy couldn't have gone that long
It was his 4th day in a row pitching.
I like Cindi. A. She never pretends to know more than she does. B. She has unbridled enthusiasm for her "Hotties," and isn't afraid to show it. -IM4Oakgal
So he's already pitched three days in a row
Yet you continually warm him up and sit him down for three innings?
"We were s--, pathetic," Guillen growled early in spring training. "We hit too many home runs."
by lenscrafters on Jun 21, 2008 8:25 PM PDT up reply actions
Maybe Ziegler said
“I want out. Too Uggla for me!”
"I never predict anything, and I never will." Paul Gascoigne, English footballer
by One won lost won on Jun 21, 2008 8:24 PM PDT up reply actions
Me too. Seems like just five days ago...
by WaddellCanseco on Jun 21, 2008 8:25 PM PDT up reply actions
You guys are at the Mendoza Line
One-for-five, over and over.
"I never predict anything, and I never will." Paul Gascoigne, English footballer
by One won lost won on Jun 21, 2008 8:26 PM PDT up reply actions
We need to score now
Street is up in Pen which considering last night and his groin trouble, may not be a good Idea
greetings.......
i root for teams that lack offense! go halos and bills!
by norcaliangelsfan on Jun 21, 2008 8:27 PM PDT reply actions
just stopped by to catch the end of y'alls game..........not gonna troll or anything......
just thought i would see what you guys are up too.
i root for teams that lack offense! go halos and bills!
by norcaliangelsfan on Jun 21, 2008 8:31 PM PDT up reply actions
I disagree with your team of choice, sir, but I'd die to defend your right to choose it
We’re all friends, here.
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You'd die for that?
Wow.
I like Cindi. A. She never pretends to know more than she does. B. She has unbridled enthusiasm for her "Hotties," and isn't afraid to show it. -IM4Oakgal
I wouldn't die for that choice
but I might kill you for it though
jk
or am i…
Green Hulk Fists
by oaklandSMASH on Jun 21, 2008 8:34 PM PDT up reply actions
yeah same here......and all.......points.
i root for teams that lack offense! go halos and bills!
by norcaliangelsfan on Jun 21, 2008 8:35 PM PDT up reply actions
I just drank a Budweiser tallboy
The Dale Jr. can makes me all patriotic.
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i have to say im fairly impressed with the young A's........
i like everyone else didnt consider them much of a threat this year….........
but as “they” say….........
Thats why they play the game
i root for teams that lack offense! go halos and bills!
by norcaliangelsfan on Jun 21, 2008 8:36 PM PDT up reply actions
wouldnt have it any other way.......
i root for teams that lack offense! go halos and bills!
by norcaliangelsfan on Jun 21, 2008 8:38 PM PDT up reply actions
Jack Cust having a tough time of late
Hopefully just a mini-slump
Cust is strangely ineffective lately
he’s either dead-on, or dead-on-arrival.
"I never predict anything, and I never will." Paul Gascoigne, English footballer
by One won lost won on Jun 21, 2008 8:30 PM PDT reply actions
He's been that way the last career or so
I like Cindi. A. She never pretends to know more than she does. B. She has unbridled enthusiasm for her "Hotties," and isn't afraid to show it. -IM4Oakgal
Most of the hits the Marlins got tonight are on fastballs
I was surprised that Embree threw nothing but fastaballs in that last HR at-bat
Street's control is shaky, but at least he's missing low
How ‘bout "jackass"? Can I still say "jackass"? @('.')@
Yes but I'm pretty indifferent between one or two runs here.
And Street is a lot better against righties with the slider
by WaddellCanseco on Jun 21, 2008 8:40 PM PDT up reply actions
the ump during the angels game was calling strikes 1 foot off the plate on each side today.....
i root for teams that lack offense! go halos and bills!
by norcaliangelsfan on Jun 21, 2008 8:40 PM PDT up reply actions
no.......but it was quick......
i root for teams that lack offense! go halos and bills!
by norcaliangelsfan on Jun 21, 2008 8:41 PM PDT up reply actions
that was a big out
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by norcaliangelsfan on Jun 21, 2008 8:42 PM PDT reply actions
Kotchman did that one time during an Angels game and got a DP out of it
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by norcaliangelsfan on Jun 21, 2008 8:43 PM PDT up reply actions
pooh
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by norcaliangelsfan on Jun 21, 2008 8:44 PM PDT up reply actions
uh, really?
Street got a late break to first, it would have been 50/50 to get Helms—and that’s if Huston fields the throw cleanly on the run.
How ‘bout "jackass"? Can I still say "jackass"? @('.')@
good execution, good thinking, then more good execution
How ‘bout "jackass"? Can I still say "jackass"? @('.')@
The mistake was walking Hermida
Very bad decision, IMO, and one that cost the game.
I like Cindi. A. She never pretends to know more than she does. B. She has unbridled enthusiasm for her "Hotties," and isn't afraid to show it. -IM4Oakgal
IBB == evil
just get outs, so you don’t have to pitch so carefully w/ bases loaded
haha trade Street AND Blanton
Huston really isn’t going to last ZIto style let’s face it.
"The two of them deserve each other. One's a born liar, the other's convicted."
Let's face it
Uggla owns Huston (and the A’s)
"We were s--, pathetic," Guillen growled early in spring training. "We hit too many home runs."
6-3 Marlins
Street was vurnerable. Why is he in??
"I never predict anything, and I never will." Paul Gascoigne, English footballer
by One won lost won on Jun 21, 2008 8:45 PM PDT reply actions
wow
i root for teams that lack offense! go halos and bills!
by norcaliangelsfan on Jun 21, 2008 8:45 PM PDT reply actions
nice avatar
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by norcaliangelsfan on Jun 21, 2008 8:46 PM PDT up reply actions
That ball hung up there forever
Huston is pitching like a bum!
Send him to the Rivercats to “relearn” his pitch!
Green Hulk Fists
I wish the angels could have gotten Uggla this offseason......
he is a hitting machine…......something the angels could use
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by norcaliangelsfan on Jun 21, 2008 8:46 PM PDT reply actions
oh yeah.........
but he was hurt for a good majority of the year….......but he’ll never be the power bat Uggla is….....and frankly…....the halos need it…......
i root for teams that lack offense! go halos and bills!
by norcaliangelsfan on Jun 21, 2008 8:48 PM PDT up reply actions
in order to get him Kendrick would have been gone......so it wouldnt have mattered
last i heard it was “supposed to be” a 5 for 3 trade…......but it didnt go thru….....but its just nice to ask the “what if”
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by norcaliangelsfan on Jun 21, 2008 8:50 PM PDT up reply actions
i believe it was........
cabrera, willis, and uggla…........for Adenhart, Mathis, Santana, Kendrick, and Willis…..
but the marlins didnt wanna give up uggla too
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by norcaliangelsfan on Jun 21, 2008 8:53 PM PDT up reply actions
If you take Uggla and Kendrick out, it's still a good deal for the Angels
I’m not that excited by Adenhart or Mathis
by WaddellCanseco on Jun 21, 2008 8:55 PM PDT up reply actions
yeah the marlins wanted 5-2......
the angels 5-3…..........
Mathis has shown flashes…....just like Adenhart…....lately Mathis has been making it a habit to throw the ball into CF on SB attempts…....and Adenhart hasnt found a groove anywhere yet this year…...but he is only 21…..so he has time…....we’ll see.
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by norcaliangelsfan on Jun 21, 2008 8:56 PM PDT up reply actions
But Mathis is non-essential with Napoli around
Adenhart doesn’t strike me as having overpowering stuff. The guts of the trade is really Santana and Kendrick for Cabrera, which is a great deal for the Angels
by WaddellCanseco on Jun 21, 2008 8:59 PM PDT up reply actions
yeah thats what i thought too.........
oh well…...cant really complain with the team that is being fielded now…...having a decent record and being in first and all…..thats why im not a GM somewhere, i guess shrug
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by norcaliangelsfan on Jun 21, 2008 9:00 PM PDT up reply actions
The sad thing is, Ellis DID have a play at 1B,
made an incredibly wise decision not to go “do or die” to try to get it (if they don’t get Helms Ramirez will score), and it didn’t pay off.
I like Cindi. A. She never pretends to know more than she does. B. She has unbridled enthusiasm for her "Hotties," and isn't afraid to show it. -IM4Oakgal
He did, barely
Perfect execution and they get the out.
I like Cindi. A. She never pretends to know more than she does. B. She has unbridled enthusiasm for her "Hotties," and isn't afraid to show it. -IM4Oakgal
Well good night all...and that fucking sucked
hope to see better news in the morning but im not holding my breath b/c ill die
Street has allowed 6 runs to score in 2 games
After yesterday’s abortion he should NOT been allowed to pitch tonight
Thank God he won’t be available tomorrow
Been saying for quite some time....
....I love Beane, but he simply waited FAR too long to trade Blanton and Street.
If Street is so intelligent a player, why wasn’t he covering first on the ball to Ellis?
It’s not like our pitching isn’t strong. So why the holding onto two guys with name recognition who were overrated for quite some time?
"Just trying to keep my bases clogged."
by Caught squealin on Jun 21, 2008 8:49 PM PDT reply actions
I definitely agree on Blanton
Not so sure on Street. I’m not arguing against it (I was arguing last year to trade Street), just not so sure.
How ‘bout "jackass"? Can I still say "jackass"? @('.')@
We don't know what he was offered from Blanton in the offseason
by WaddellCanseco on Jun 21, 2008 8:52 PM PDT up reply actions
no, we don't -- offseason or midseason last year
But I think Blanton’s trade value was likely maximal at midseason last year. Beane probably should have taken the highest offer, whatever it was.
How ‘bout "jackass"? Can I still say "jackass"? @('.')@
as someone who was advocating trading him since at least May '07
... I’m entitled to the hindsight.
How ‘bout "jackass"? Can I still say "jackass"? @('.')@
true
I still feel that whatever we could have gotten for Blanton a year ago would have outweighed the benefits of keeping him.
How ‘bout "jackass"? Can I still say "jackass"? @('.')@
he was covering
ellis chose not to throw there
Gregg was a former halo too
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by norcaliangelsfan on Jun 21, 2008 8:50 PM PDT reply actions
why the fuck isn't barton hitting
"The two of them deserve each other. One's a born liar, the other's convicted."
Davis walk-off??
"I never predict anything, and I never will." Paul Gascoigne, English footballer
by One won lost won on Jun 21, 2008 8:58 PM PDT reply actions
Walk off the field back to the dugout, yeah.
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you have got to be kidding me
That 2-1 pitch was NOT a strike
How ‘bout "jackass"? Can I still say "jackass"? @('.')@
borderline strike calls
according to gamecast
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by norcaliangelsfan on Jun 21, 2008 8:59 PM PDT reply actions
Blanton's high point...
...for trade value was two offseasons ago when his W-L record was inflated. Then or mid last season would have worked for me. I understand why not, with all the youth and injury issues, but at first sign things were looking good pitching wise (or two offseasons ago) i would have moved Blanton.
As for Street. I don’t get the love. He’s always been pretty hittable. He gets hurt a lot and blows a lot of saves. And closers as a position are overrated.
One thing I like about Street blown saves though is he gets bailed out of the loss on his blown saves often…
...let’s go Oakland!!
"Just trying to keep my bases clogged."
by Caught squealin on Jun 21, 2008 9:00 PM PDT reply actions
Always been hittable?
Yea, .190 batting average last year…Good call chief.
Bring back Hammer.
by OaktownPower on Jun 21, 2008 9:02 PM PDT up reply actions
bases juiced
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by norcaliangelsfan on Jun 21, 2008 9:01 PM PDT reply actions
gregg has lost it.......
cant find the K zone
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by norcaliangelsfan on Jun 21, 2008 9:02 PM PDT reply actions
This has been a really great series so far.
"Dispatch knuckleheadedness with Bond-like aplomb." –74mk
this guy's strike zone is all over the place
How ‘bout "jackass"? Can I still say "jackass"? @('.')@
not to mention inside/outside
That 2-1 “strike” call on Rajai was criminal.
If Barton had been PH’ing as he should have, that pitch would have hit him in the right calf.
How ‘bout "jackass"? Can I still say "jackass"? @('.')@
full count
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by norcaliangelsfan on Jun 21, 2008 9:03 PM PDT reply actions
changeup instead
gutsy pitch
"I never predict anything, and I never will." Paul Gascoigne, English footballer
by One won lost won on Jun 21, 2008 9:04 PM PDT up reply actions
That really pisses me off
That Street fucks us 3 times in 2 games
He needs to be on the DL, he is obviously not right.
DL him anyway. maybe he needs to stop riding BART
"The two of them deserve each other. One's a born liar, the other's convicted."
whoa.....ball 4 by a mile too
i root for teams that lack offense! go halos and bills!
by norcaliangelsfan on Jun 21, 2008 9:05 PM PDT reply actions
As Kurt said after last night's game
"We are never gonna give up. We may not win every game but I guarantee we will be fighting until the last out".
Don't blame me, I voted for Ice Cream
Just load the bases and give us hope. I must be a masochist to watch this team.
I’m also a Jets fan. I need therapy.
Proud mommy of "mini-kapers"
If Cantu doesn't get it, the A's win
Game of freaking centimeters. Not that we deserved to win, but it would have been nice to anyway.
I like Cindi. A. She never pretends to know more than she does. B. She has unbridled enthusiasm for her "Hotties," and isn't afraid to show it. -IM4Oakgal
exactly
HEV
high entertainment value
"I never predict anything, and I never will." Paul Gascoigne, English footballer
by One won lost won on Jun 21, 2008 9:08 PM PDT up reply actions
Better that..better a run and bases loaded
than three K’s on nine pitches in the ninth.
You have to remember, this is for entertainment.
It aint the Palestinians vs Israeli Army or something.
"I never predict anything, and I never will." Paul Gascoigne, English footballer
by One won lost won on Jun 21, 2008 9:07 PM PDT up reply actions
maybe its time to go to the Greg Maddux/Tom Glavine school of non-hardthrowing studs?
i root for teams that lack offense! go halos and bills!
by norcaliangelsfan on Jun 21, 2008 9:09 PM PDT up reply actions
I think all of baseball would love to go to that school
"The two of them deserve each other. One's a born liar, the other's convicted."
Are there other availability issues?
Why did Houston come on in the 9th, tie game anyway?
Gaudin, Brown, others off?
Also the whole bit with starters warming up in the BP – I think the bullpen is some sort of trouble
Greg Smith was throwing in the pen in the 9th
Gaudin could only go 0.1 IP? What did I miss?
I like Cindi. A. She never pretends to know more than she does. B. She has unbridled enthusiasm for her "Hotties," and isn't afraid to show it. -IM4Oakgal
What's annoying is that the one thing they can't do
is field. And they won the game, instead of losing it, on a defensive play.
I like Cindi. A. She never pretends to know more than she does. B. She has unbridled enthusiasm for her "Hotties," and isn't afraid to show it. -IM4Oakgal
That's baseball!
It’s why I dig this game.
A's, baby!
by Coach Cleats on Jun 21, 2008 9:15 PM PDT up reply actions
Santana and Saunders have shut down the Phills............
I think your staff can hold em in check too.
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by norcaliangelsfan on Jun 21, 2008 9:14 PM PDT up reply actions
No doubt.
I don’t look forward to Blanton getting shelled next week.
A's, baby!
by Coach Cleats on Jun 21, 2008 9:14 PM PDT up reply actions
so far the road has been good to the halos.......
i root for teams that lack offense! go halos and bills!
by norcaliangelsfan on Jun 21, 2008 9:14 PM PDT up reply actions
having Figgins come back has sparked the team too........
when he came back…..Vlad heated up too.
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by norcaliangelsfan on Jun 21, 2008 9:18 PM PDT up reply actions
Rangers can swing it, too.
Josh Hamilton is a flat-out stud.
A's, baby!
by Coach Cleats on Jun 21, 2008 9:17 PM PDT up reply actions
he has quite the contingent of fans over at HH too.......
lots of guys have him on his fantasy team
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by norcaliangelsfan on Jun 21, 2008 9:19 PM PDT up reply actions
I hate Dan Uggla
Put him one notch below Placido Polanco.
by Tyler Bleszinski on Jun 21, 2008 9:17 PM PDT reply actions
OK
I didn’t see it.
Should he have stayed at 1st?
That, and no IBB, and put a different pitcher in.
That’s not exactly fair – it IBB we all knew was a problem at the start – other bits are post-facto judgements.
I still think Ellis made a great decision,
and it just wound up biting the A’s on the butt.
I like Cindi. A. She never pretends to know more than she does. B. She has unbridled enthusiasm for her "Hotties," and isn't afraid to show it. -IM4Oakgal
Correct deciscion once the play unfolded as it did
Street being at first a few moments earlier, it’s a different call.
If Street's there, Ellis throws it
I’ve just seen SO many times where that play ends with an infield hit scoring the runner from second (often with the throw bouncing away), and Ellis knew that if the next hitter gets out – which even Dan Uggla does more than 40% of the time, inning over. And he didn’t hold the ball either – he immediately lobbed a one-hop strike to the plate. He’s just so f-ing smart.
I like Cindi. A. She never pretends to know more than she does. B. She has unbridled enthusiasm for her "Hotties," and isn't afraid to show it. -IM4Oakgal
Perhaps Barton
would have played it smarter.
Who knows??
Barton probably needs a day off.
"I never predict anything, and I never will." Paul Gascoigne, English footballer
by One won lost won on Jun 21, 2008 9:27 PM PDT up reply actions
OK OaktownPower
I knew someone would call me on that.
Street does get into some nice grooves. His rookie year i loved him and thought his future was bright. And he got on a nice roll right after the last time i dissed him earlier this year. But his injuries combined with his lack of overpowering stuff and blown saves….along with a propensity to get into really bad spells like this one…along with the position itself being overrated….
My point is to take advantage of his name and how many teams overvalue closers…when we have a stable of good relievers, earlier in their clocks. My point is to trade him before that average against goes much higher and/or he gets hurt again.
I’ll admit, maybe i don’t respect the hittable looking junk he throws enough. Maybe it’s the timing of the hits he does give up. But since his rookie year i’ve never been that sure with him in there.
So, OK, you got me. With Blanton Beane needed to wait until he could see what he had…and now it’s too late to get max value back. With Street there’s always been enough there to hold onto him.
On a different subject: The A’s and Beane do clearly well for the money. And BB gets some diamonds in the rough and a lot of good players. But he never seems to get the REALLY good players like an Uggla or Ramirez. I know the A’s haven’t spent in the draft and have drafted safe picks and that’s worked…but all these years one or two of these clearly superior players…OK, now i’m being spoiled.
I hear you with Street. I guess we could do a lot worse.
"Just trying to keep my bases clogged."
by Caught squealin on Jun 21, 2008 9:18 PM PDT reply actions
Did Brett Anderson get promoted to Midland?
He’s listed on Midland’s roster (on the website).
"We were s--, pathetic," Guillen growled early in spring training. "We hit too many home runs."
I don't think he's started throwing yet
His arm was still a little sore 10 days ago and they were being cautious.
That would have made it worse in the 9th
Street would have come in with a 1 run lead and no doubt done the same thing. That ball to Uggla was on a tee and said “Hit Me” as were about half a dozen of Street’s other offerings. Usually a pitcher may throw a bad pitch and get away with it. With Street over the last two nights, I saw about a few good pitches and a whole bunch of bad ones. The guy has lost velocity and his groin or something is stopping him from being effective. That’s not quite correct, he was EFFECTIVE for Florida.
Yes he has
but There is something wrong with him to give up 2 home runs, 2 doubles, many walks and 6 RBI in two games. That is in the class of Joe Borowksi.
There is no question when he’s right, he’s effective. 88 mph is not right
maybe I have a selected memory (only remember his bad outings)
but he blew a save againt the Red Sox in Japan and also served up a HR to Hamilton in Texas
Sorry Javaball
I misread your post. I thought you said he has been.
Had I read it correctly, I would have worded my reply a little differently
I was holding back
I really was wanting to rip Geren for bringing him in but initially thought better of posting that.
Even if they wnet 18 innings tomorrow, he should NOT see the kight of day.
When Casilla and Devine went down
that really screwed the pen.
The main goal is for Casilla to get back in a groove and that will help with the others. Hopefully Street is unavailable for games with ties or leads less than 3 runs until he/they sort out what is wrong with him.
how does that happen?
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by norcaliangelsfan on Jun 21, 2008 9:34 PM PDT up reply actions
and doesnt this statement directly contradict your previous one?
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by norcaliangelsfan on Jun 21, 2008 9:36 PM PDT up reply actions
you said you wont trade a good starter for a hitter......
but in the post above you said ” i would trade harden for hamilton”
so you tell me where the contradiction is?
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by norcaliangelsfan on Jun 21, 2008 9:39 PM PDT up reply actions
oh you are right........
sorry…...nevermind.
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by norcaliangelsfan on Jun 21, 2008 9:42 PM PDT up reply actions
my eyeballs were playing tricks on me........
my bad
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by norcaliangelsfan on Jun 21, 2008 9:42 PM PDT up reply actions
Tough loss tonight.
Put Street on the DL and make Casilla or Embree the closer. Or Gaudin. Enough already. Ryan Sweeney looks good at the plate and the Marlins got lucky. Let’s get them tomorrow. Huston is a great closer, he’s just not himself right now. Go A’s!
by A'sfansince1970 on Jun 21, 2008 9:39 PM PDT reply actions
Agree on not trading great P for great H
Also, Harden, as has been mentioned here, doesn’t have trade value on par with his talent, due to injury history. So, let’s just hold onto him and be the ones to reap his talents.
As for my earlier lack of finding great players, only lots of good ones comment…Harden was an exception in that, but of course he gets the injury bug….argg.
With Beane and co’s new focus on young, big upside draft picks and Dominican players, maybe we will soon blend a few of these illusive great players in with the consistent good players we always have with Beane.
And really, this is what’s so great about Beane: his honesty of his own faults and ability to make adjustments. And, again, with Harden at least he/we got really unlucky. Not to mention we kind of had to let a few go (and keeping Chavez instead of Tejada made sense with a Crosby and no Crosby like player at third.)
"Just trying to keep my bases clogged."
by Caught squealin on Jun 21, 2008 9:42 PM PDT reply actions
thats a tough one i think
it has been show in the post season…....that great pitching can beat great hitting….......but i think (esp when it comes to the dead sux that you might need to possibly sacrifice a good pitcher for a big bat…...because unfortunately…..that team is built for that park….....and sluggin it out with them is about the best way to beat them….....IMHO
i root for teams that lack offense! go halos and bills!
by norcaliangelsfan on Jun 21, 2008 9:44 PM PDT up reply actions
norcaliangelsfan, would you agree that
if the Angels continue to score and give up the same number of runs, the A’s will stay in the race, but if LAA got away with a weird run distribution and keeps playing good baseball, the A’s are screwed? That’s kind of how I see it – LAA is due for a major speed bump but they may or may not actually hit it.
I like Cindi. A. She never pretends to know more than she does. B. She has unbridled enthusiasm for her "Hotties," and isn't afraid to show it. -IM4Oakgal
are you talking in that Pythag stuff?
i root for teams that lack offense! go halos and bills!
by norcaliangelsfan on Jun 21, 2008 9:48 PM PDT up reply actions
honestly.......
i think the angels hit their offensive slump this last 6 weeks or so….......the pitching has been superb….....im just curious to know if they are/will hold up….......its amazing to me that the angels havent lost more….....but now everyone is getting healthy again offensively so i see the angels going on a tear the next month or two and then cooling down again in Aug….....(people getting tired and stuff) but i def think the A’s are worthy contenders…......(i mean just look at the ultra competitive games the two teams always seem to play against each other) In the end i think its gonna come down to whos pitching can hold up the longest.
i root for teams that lack offense! go halos and bills!
by norcaliangelsfan on Jun 21, 2008 9:51 PM PDT up reply actions
just to add on that........
the angels have only scored 10 runs or more in a game like 2 times all year…....and the last 6 weeks or so they have been averaging less than 4 a game….....but somehow (thanks to the pitching) they’ve been winning series….........9 outta the last 11 series….....so as long as that keeps happening…....it will be hard i think for the A’s to surpass the halos.
i root for teams that lack offense! go halos and bills!
by norcaliangelsfan on Jun 21, 2008 9:53 PM PDT up reply actions
I think it's fair to say that if
Saunders and Santana win 20 of their next 25 decisions, the Angels will win the West.
I like Cindi. A. She never pretends to know more than she does. B. She has unbridled enthusiasm for her "Hotties," and isn't afraid to show it. -IM4Oakgal
by Nico on Jun 21, 2008 9:54 PM PDT up reply

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