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DLD 6.18.08 remember that one time

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Remember that one time….when we crushed Brandon Webb…um…uh…that was awesome!

 

It’s hard to decide who was awesomest, however.  Was it the insanely awesome Justin Duchscherer, who threw eight innings of one run ball?  <cough, how ‘bout a complete game, skip? cough>  Was it the magically awesome Mark Ellis, with his two home runs?  Or could it have been Carlos Gonzalez, with his superbly awesome catch in the 8th? The catch prompted Bob Geren to say:

 

"I'd love to see it over again," Geren said. "I look forward to seeing that. That will definitely be on TV. I can't imagine 10 better plays there on 'Baseball Tonight' than that. If there are a better 10 plays, I really want to see the other 10."

 

SuSlu reports  that the D-Backs might be eyeing our Unicorn for a possible future vacancy at 2nd base.  Says Ellis: 

 

"Honestly, it's way too early to think about it," Ellis said of his future. "Orlando is an unbelievable second baseman and I don't know what their plans are, and I have no idea what's going to happen with the A's. But obviously, I live here (Phoenix) and there are a lot of attractive things about it."

 

Says batgirl: Ellis is ours and you can't have him.

 

 

As it turns out, Patrol Craft’s catch was a #1 web gem, and it was #3 on ESPN’s top plays.  It would have been  #1 except for the fact that (and I’m probably breaking news to many of you here, because there has been almost no broadcast time used to cover it,) The Boston Celtics  won the NBA Championship!

 

I’m very torn about this because I don’t like the Lakers, yet I really don’t like the fans of New England having one more reason to get their knickers in a twist about how great they are.

 

Today is International Panic Day , which, if you think about it, should really be an Athletics Nation national holiday.  Feel free to take the day off work, host your own home tailgate in advance of tonight’s game, and scream from the rafters "WE’RE ALL GONNA DIE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!" 

Poll
Who was more awesome?
Duchschcherrerrer!
33 votes
Unicorn Power!
24 votes
Patrol Craft!
11 votes
Impossible to determine with current scientific methods
25 votes

93 votes | Poll has closed

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my stupid images aren't working

I hate new AN. time to edit

"Don't be an ass!" --Bill King

by batgirl on Jun 18, 2008 7:01 AM PDT reply actions  

What i find most impressive about CarGon's catch

is that it happened while the score was 9-1 A’s. Most guys wouldn’t have gone after that ball the way he did in that situation. That said, i voted for Duke because his awesomness lasted a full eight innings. It really doesn’t matter though, the whole team was awesome last night. Well, except for Oatmeal Brown.

"Put some ice on it. After that, there's nothing a few beers won't take care of. " -Pink

by OrlandoAsFan on Jun 18, 2008 7:19 AM PDT reply actions  

Yeah, I love Kruk's analysis on Baseball Tonight:

If that’s a veteran player and it’s 9-1, that’s a double.

Way to buck the trend, Gonzo.

President and CEO of the Ryan Sweeney Apologists Consortium

by Joey C. on Jun 18, 2008 11:39 AM PDT up reply actions  

This seems appropriate

"JOAN! Are you watching Bombast? Did you see Lack Bust drop that fly call?"

by Jennifer on Jun 18, 2008 7:22 AM PDT reply actions  

when is duchscherer going to get his own bobblehead?

he’s certainly earned it over buck and suzuki.
they should squeeze duke in this year, anyone who wants a dick williams can just dye the hair on a carney bobblehead.

A's v Giants "is kind of like the difference between going to see the Ramones and going to see the Bee Gees. A's fans will go see the Ramones." -BB 07/27/05

by xbhaskarx on Jun 18, 2008 7:32 AM PDT up reply actions  

That's just wrong

He needs his own bobblehead. Let’s see…he’s been here longer than most players, been an All Star, kicking butt this season. Yep, it’s about time.

He would make a fine member of this year’s All Star Team too.

"You know, a long time ago being crazy meant something. Nowadays everybody's crazy."

-Charles Manson

by kaweahkaweah on Jun 18, 2008 7:35 AM PDT up reply actions  

Cust?!

Pshaw.

BobbleDuke needs to be in this pose.

"JOAN! Are you watching Bombast? Did you see Lack Bust drop that fly call?"

by Jennifer on Jun 18, 2008 7:45 AM PDT up reply actions  

BOOO!!!

If we can’t fix the stupid, can we at least beat them senseless? @('.')@

by monkeyball on Jun 18, 2008 9:56 AM PDT up reply actions  

I just got home last night

and what an awesome way to be greeted back into the country…..lots and lots and lots of runs. And then looked again, and more runs. And great pitching. Awesome….

There's no crying in baseball!

by gigglingone on Jun 18, 2008 7:29 AM PDT reply actions  

Was it something you ate?

That’s what happened to me the last time I came back from a foreign country with the runs.

"He's a misfit. He gets along with everyone." - Reggie Jackson, describing Joe Rudi

by McFood on Jun 18, 2008 7:47 AM PDT up reply actions  

^^^^ POTM nominee! ^^^^

I LOLd, I did!

Bob Geren, on 8/2/07, on the success of Alan Embree as new interim closer: "What can I say,... he's been our Steady Tremendous Bullpen Man"

by popcornjames on Jun 18, 2008 12:15 PM PDT up reply actions  

yeah i read this one a little

ealier. Great post McFood. Hillarious.

"Put some ice on it. After that, there's nothing a few beers won't take care of. " -Pink

by OrlandoAsFan on Jun 18, 2008 12:23 PM PDT up reply actions  

we have to use QOTM

or they’ll just miss it

"The Athletics at Fremont" is obscene

by ArakSOT on Jun 18, 2008 12:53 PM PDT up reply actions  

[sends check to Thunderbutt]

"JOAN! Are you watching Bombast? Did you see Lack Bust drop that fly call?"

by Jennifer on Jun 18, 2008 1:55 PM PDT up reply actions  

{blows...

...kisses to Thunderbutt}

AN 3.0's Search Function is *hawt*!

by Poppy on Jun 19, 2008 2:30 PM PDT up reply actions  

For the Linux users out there

Watch/listen to MLB game feeds from your Linux box.

Since I’ve started using this program, the A’s have gone on a 4-game winning streak. Coincidence? I think NOT!

by LoveDemAs on Jun 18, 2008 7:34 AM PDT reply actions  

Dbacks announcers

were pretty funny and good natured about yesterday’s drubbing. And they gushed about how good the A’s looked. And they did look good.

Funniest moment was when they started speculating about Duchscherer’s name. “Sounds Italian to me,” said one. “Yep,” said the other. So they agreed that Duke is Italian.

I’m not an expert on surnames, but Duchscherer is about the least Italian sounding name I’ve ever heard. German, maybe?

by SportySpice on Jun 18, 2008 8:08 AM PDT reply actions  

I guess it’s safe to say Joe Garagiola wasn’t in the booth last night. At least they didn’t guess that Kurt Suzuki is Italian.

Root for the Giants? Not even if they're playing al-Qaeda!

by Monday Fan on Jun 18, 2008 8:14 AM PDT up reply actions  

I love the Dback announcers, they're fantastic. Not to mention for some reason they cover the majority

of their games on MLB.tv (unlike the A’s announcers) so you get to hear a lot of them if you follow the Dbacks.

by OldhamA on Jun 18, 2008 9:07 AM PDT up reply actions  

Grudzielanek?

I think is marginally less Italian sounding. But yeah, Duchscherer has to be a close runner up.

(Yes, definitely German.)

"Dispatch knuckleheadedness with Bond-like aplomb." –74mk

by iglew on Jun 18, 2008 3:16 PM PDT up reply actions  

Pretty sure Matsuzaka isn't Italian

I generally bemoan the profusion of Mr Sabermetric Sporks in the Scrabble ranks who don't know the meaning or usage of 50% of the words they use. -monkeyball

by JediLeroy on Jun 19, 2008 1:01 PM PDT up reply actions  

What about Marcelo Matsuzaka?

Children, until we have taught them better, will be perfectly happy with a seasonal round of games in which conkers succeeds hopscotch.

by salb918 on Jun 19, 2008 1:15 PM PDT up reply actions  

But it is not less Italian sounding

It’s actually very similar to sounds you might hear in an Italian name

"Dispatch knuckleheadedness with Bond-like aplomb." –74mk

by iglew on Jun 19, 2008 10:47 PM PDT up reply actions  

Mazzuzaccha.

AN 3.0's Search Function is *hawt*!

by Poppy on Jun 20, 2008 1:20 PM PDT up reply actions  

close

Mazzusacca.

z would sound like ts, not z.

ch is used only before e or i.

Matsuzaka actually sounds more Italian when pronounced by an American than when pronounced by a Japanese (because the American adds erroneous syllable emphasis).

"Dispatch knuckleheadedness with Bond-like aplomb." –74mk

by iglew on Jun 20, 2008 6:52 PM PDT up reply actions  

Actually,

Now that I actually think about it seriously, the least Italian-sounding last name I can think of is “Worth”.

"Dispatch knuckleheadedness with Bond-like aplomb." –74mk

by iglew on Jun 19, 2008 10:52 PM PDT up reply actions  

I think "Werth" sounds much less Italian

I generally bemoan the profusion of Mr Sabermetric Sporks in the Scrabble ranks who don't know the meaning or usage of 50% of the words they use. -monkeyball

by JediLeroy on Jun 20, 2008 7:40 AM PDT up reply actions  

I'm, like, some perverse New England sports good-luck charm

when I think about all the championships they’ve won since I’ve arrived here, I want to vomit

"The Athletics at Fremont" is obscene

by ArakSOT on Jun 18, 2008 8:19 AM PDT reply actions  

You know what that means, right?

"JOAN! Are you watching Bombast? Did you see Lack Bust drop that fly call?"

by Jennifer on Jun 18, 2008 8:23 AM PDT up reply actions  

No.

You have to move back to Oakland if we ever want to see the A’s in the World Series.

"JOAN! Are you watching Bombast? Did you see Lack Bust drop that fly call?"

by Jennifer on Jun 18, 2008 8:53 AM PDT up reply actions  

you sound like my family

if you start telling me to meet someone, settle down, and buy a home, I’m gonna freak

"The Athletics at Fremont" is obscene

by ArakSOT on Jun 18, 2008 9:23 AM PDT up reply actions  

Well....

:)

"JOAN! Are you watching Bombast? Did you see Lack Bust drop that fly call?"

by Jennifer on Jun 18, 2008 9:40 AM PDT up reply actions  

I was on a flight back to Boston, and the pilot

kept updating the plane on the status of the game. When we got in the cab to head home, the cabbie couldn’t stop talking about the damn Celtics. Bah.

stat-addled alien overlord

by salb918 on Jun 18, 2008 9:06 AM PDT up reply actions  

At least you weren't in that cab

immediately after the 2003 A’s-Red Sox playoffs.

"You know, a long time ago being crazy meant something. Nowadays everybody's crazy."

-Charles Manson

by kaweahkaweah on Jun 18, 2008 9:12 AM PDT up reply actions  

Same thing happened to me during that first Red Sox Series a few years ago

I was on my way to my brother’s wedding to a Boston gal and the pilot kept giving updates about the Red Sox/Yankee’s ALCS clincher game. Then, to make matters worse, the DJ kept giving updates from the dance floor for one of the Series games. barf.

"Don't be an ass!" --Bill King

by batgirl on Jun 18, 2008 9:48 AM PDT up reply actions  

bummer

i’m not a golf guy but this US open was great entertainment.

A's v Giants "is kind of like the difference between going to see the Ramones and going to see the Bee Gees. A's fans will go see the Ramones." -BB 07/27/05

by xbhaskarx on Jun 18, 2008 8:46 AM PDT up reply actions  

I didn't know they had seasons in golf...

I thought they just played the tourneys they wanted to..

Ellis for President

by tosk on Jun 18, 2008 9:24 AM PDT up reply actions  

begins in January goes to September

Let's have our Piazza and eat the Cust too - SPWC

by closetasfan on Jun 18, 2008 11:14 AM PDT up reply actions  

Amazing.....

What a remarkable athlete.

Bring back Hammer.

by OaktownPower on Jun 18, 2008 2:24 PM PDT up reply actions  

I'm back.

Glad to see everyone missed me.

Children, until we have taught them better, will be perfectly happy with a seasonal round of games in which conkers succeeds hopscotch.

by salb918 on Jun 18, 2008 9:19 AM PDT reply actions  

Ummm, yeah....hey

welcome back!!!! – meant to say that!!!

by Hot Cup Joe on Jun 18, 2008 9:28 AM PDT up reply actions  

welcome back

who are you again?

Pessimism FTW! ... Wait what?

by Zonis on Jun 18, 2008 9:39 AM PDT up reply actions  

You're back, great...

...where’s my present?

"He's a misfit. He gets along with everyone." - Reggie Jackson, describing Joe Rudi

by McFood on Jun 18, 2008 9:47 AM PDT up reply actions  

I was in Oregon

All I got you was this lousy tree shirt.

Children, until we have taught them better, will be perfectly happy with a seasonal round of games in which conkers succeeds hopscotch.

by salb918 on Jun 18, 2008 9:51 AM PDT up reply actions  

I don't know where your present is

but I know where the A’s are

"Don't be an ass!" --Bill King

by batgirl on Jun 18, 2008 2:51 PM PDT up reply actions  

I don't know where "now" is.

But I know where the A’s are.

How ‘bout "jackass"? Can I still say "jackass"? @('.')@

by monkeyball on Jun 18, 2008 3:04 PM PDT up reply actions  

Be here now

Or be somewhere sometime.

"May a nit suck Cajun geese?" wonders Red. No, we see gnu Jack Cust in a yam.

by andeux on Jun 18, 2008 3:17 PM PDT up reply actions  

seems you were overlooked

but haven’t people been looking over you for long enough that you’re accustomed to it by now?

"Camelot sure fell apart, didn't it?"-Steve McCatty

by 5Aces on Jun 18, 2008 11:30 AM PDT up reply actions  

we deleted the 64 "where's sal?!?" fanposts as soon as you logged on

If we can’t fix the stupid, can we at least beat them senseless? @('.')@

by monkeyball on Jun 18, 2008 11:35 AM PDT up reply actions  

Sexson to be released

http://www.heraldnet.com/article/20080617/SPORTS/623385744

According to one person familiar with moves that are planned, Sexson will be let go, possibly within days. The timing is not set because the team is dealing with other personnel issues that go beyond the procedures for moving Sexson.

There also is the delicate process involved with getting rid of Sexson, who’s making $14 million this season in the final year of a four-year, $50 million contract.

Children, until we have taught them better, will be perfectly happy with a seasonal round of games in which conkers succeeds hopscotch.

by salb918 on Jun 18, 2008 9:50 AM PDT reply actions  

Nnnnoooooooooooooooooooo!!!

"JOAN! Are you watching Bombast? Did you see Lack Bust drop that fly call?"

by Jennifer on Jun 18, 2008 9:57 AM PDT up reply actions  

I heart Jeff

"JOAN! Are you watching Bombast? Did you see Lack Bust drop that fly call?"

by Jennifer on Jun 18, 2008 10:01 AM PDT up reply actions  

Funny

http://www.lookoutlanding.com/2008/6/17/553602/what-s-the-whole-story-wit#6813507

Children, until we have taught them better, will be perfectly happy with a seasonal round of games in which conkers succeeds hopscotch.

by salb918 on Jun 18, 2008 10:00 AM PDT reply actions  

Hold me-I'm scared

I just tried to click on this link and the evil corporate web police gave me a “you can’t go here message”.

If AN gets blocked on the office computer I may have to quit. Although, my productivity would probably go up so much that I would get a promotion and could afford to take more time on home computer, so maybe it would be a wash.

"Camelot sure fell apart, didn't it?"-Steve McCatty

by 5Aces on Jun 18, 2008 11:36 AM PDT up reply actions  

I'm not getting

the Chris Farley/ Paul McCartney picture.

Let’s see, Farley is dead, and the A’s killed the Dbacks.
And McCartney got taken by a one-legged floozy and ….

I give up.

by SportySpice on Jun 18, 2008 10:02 AM PDT reply actions  

Have you seen Die Hard?

I generally bemoan the profusion of Mr Sabermetric Sporks in the Scrabble ranks who don't know the meaning or usage of 50% of the words they use. -monkeyball

by JediLeroy on Jun 18, 2008 10:06 AM PDT up reply actions  

I think so

Is that the one where Danny Glover is sitting on an exploding toilet?

I’m still clueless.

by SportySpice on Jun 18, 2008 10:07 AM PDT up reply actions  

I can't tell if you are serious.

"JOAN! Are you watching Bombast? Did you see Lack Bust drop that fly call?"

by Jennifer on Jun 18, 2008 10:06 AM PDT up reply actions  

Funny

Kind of reminds me of Fosse’s interviews.

I stopped watching SNL when Jane Curtain left the show.

by SportySpice on Jun 18, 2008 10:13 AM PDT up reply actions  

Heh

I hadn’t seen this when I posted my explanation.

"May a nit suck Cajun geese?" wonders Red. No, we see gnu Jack Cust in a yam.

by andeux on Jun 18, 2008 10:26 AM PDT up reply actions  

The title of this DLD

is a reference to a running joke on SNL where Chris Farley played himself giving Ray Fosse-like interviews (“Remember that one time when…that was awesome.”
Also, it’s Sir Paul’s birthday today.

"May a nit suck Cajun geese?" wonders Red. No, we see gnu Jack Cust in a yam.

by andeux on Jun 18, 2008 10:20 AM PDT up reply actions  

Isn't it good, unicorn wood.

Wait!

The meaning of life is not so much 'found,' as it is 'made.' --Opus

by The Dogfather on Jun 18, 2008 10:33 AM PDT up reply actions  

I too ditched SNL sometime in the Reagan administration

So being a more contemporary fellow, I thought the DLD title referenced this one time, at band camp, when I….

How do the angels get to sleep when the devil leaves the porchlight on?

by FreeSeatUpgrade on Jun 18, 2008 10:36 AM PDT up reply actions  

And he probably misses you

especially if you’re a fastball.

"And Julio Franco is batting right-handed!" -- Wayne Hagin, A's radio play-by-play, mid-80s

by Nick on Jun 18, 2008 4:59 PM PDT up reply actions  

I always knew you were a floutist.

The meaning of life is not so much 'found,' as it is 'made.' --Opus

by The Dogfather on Jun 18, 2008 11:50 AM PDT up reply actions  

same here

I’m of the Eddie Murphy generation of SNL. (Everyone else from those years has long since faded into obscurity, with the partial exception of Julia Louis-Dreyfus who survives only in syndicated Seinfeld reruns.)

"Dispatch knuckleheadedness with Bond-like aplomb." –74mk

by iglew on Jun 18, 2008 2:08 PM PDT up reply actions  

Far from....

Julia won the best leading female Emmy in 06 for her new show…...She’s far from only living in syndication.

Bring back Hammer.

by OaktownPower on Jun 18, 2008 2:27 PM PDT up reply actions  

Just proves how completely out of touch I am

Thanks for the correction.

Any news from Joe Piscopo, Tim Kazurinsky, Brad Hall, Mary Gross, Robin Duke, or Gary Kroeger?

"Dispatch knuckleheadedness with Bond-like aplomb." –74mk

by iglew on Jun 18, 2008 2:38 PM PDT up reply actions  

Brad Hall is married to Julia Louis-Dreyfuss

"And Julio Franco is batting right-handed!" -- Wayne Hagin, A's radio play-by-play, mid-80s

by Nick on Jun 18, 2008 5:00 PM PDT up reply actions  

Chris Farley: neither funny nor tragic

If we can’t fix the stupid, can we at least beat them senseless? @('.')@

by monkeyball on Jun 18, 2008 11:36 AM PDT up reply actions  

I for one am glad Duke wasn't put back for the 9th

don’t risk injury when you are up by more than 10 runs. And props to the A’s defense for helping the Duke. He was awesome though : -)

I was sort of rooting for the Celtics but after seeing all the championships in New England I felt kind of sick to my stomach. Spread the love sports gods!!!


You have to include smiley faces - Poppy
;- ) :- ) :-O : -> : -] : -}

by micdog2001 on Jun 18, 2008 11:31 AM PDT reply actions  

I prefer to root for the players, not the fans

and Boston fans will be insufferable jackasses no matter what happens, so no real harm done there.

Still, think of how many idiot sportswriters had to toss their “Garnett is an unclutch choker” stories in the trash bin and actually write something interesting for a change.

Your 2008 Athletics: It's Nothing Personal.

by PaulThomas on Jun 18, 2008 12:02 PM PDT up reply actions  

I've always been a big Garnett fan,

pretty hard to root for Kobe to win another one…

And the Warriors offered a better package for him. d’oh.

The A's colors are green and gold.

by mikeA on Jun 18, 2008 12:05 PM PDT up reply actions  

KG been my favorite player for years....until Monta Ellis took over

I was so excited for the Warriors deal to happen..Sigh, what could have been. Don’t like the Celts, but really happy for KG.

Bring back Hammer.

by OaktownPower on Jun 18, 2008 2:29 PM PDT up reply actions  

AN 3.0's Search Function is *hawt*!

by Poppy on Jun 19, 2008 2:36 PM PDT up reply actions  

lol

i hate the celtics, but i can’t hate kg or pierce…

A's v Giants "is kind of like the difference between going to see the Ramones and going to see the Bee Gees. A's fans will go see the Ramones." -BB 07/27/05

by xbhaskarx on Jun 19, 2008 5:00 PM PDT up reply actions  

The first dozen-and-a-half bagels in space.

If we can’t fix the stupid, can we at least beat them senseless? @('.')@

by monkeyball on Jun 18, 2008 11:32 AM PDT reply actions  

''repair parts for a broken toilet''

I hope they had a redundancy in place in the interim

"The Athletics at Fremont" is obscene

by ArakSOT on Jun 18, 2008 12:04 PM PDT up reply actions  

from the early days of spaceflight

Biomedical Results of Apollo – Waste Management System

The fecal containment system (FCS) was a pair of underpants of absorbent material worn under the liquid cooling garment (LCG) during suited periods (e.g., extravehicular activity).

by colin on Jun 18, 2008 1:40 PM PDT up reply actions  

[plans non-stop drive to Florida]

How do the angels get to sleep when the devil leaves the porchlight on?

by FreeSeatUpgrade on Jun 18, 2008 2:10 PM PDT up reply actions  

Happy Birthday to me!

I’m now a legal adult, so watch out world!

"Their batters are patient to the point that it's annoying." -Ryan Franklin

by Helloooo 1st on Jun 18, 2008 11:38 AM PDT reply actions  

WooHoo! Children and pets to the basement!

The meaning of life is not so much 'found,' as it is 'made.' --Opus

by The Dogfather on Jun 18, 2008 11:51 AM PDT up reply actions  

Happy birthday!

would you like a Richie Sexson for a present? I hear he’s free. He can change lightbulbs without standing on a chair.

...one Japanese woman standing in the lobby surrounded by Red Sox fans turned to her companion and said, "These Boston people are awful." -Slusser

by stormtown on Jun 18, 2008 11:59 AM PDT up reply actions  

Time zones and jet lag and baseball,

oh my.

pam5981: Patience is a virtue that I do not possess.
ohtobe21likehuston: But you're good at drinking and cussing. Two out of three ain't bad.

by pam5981 on Jun 18, 2008 12:14 PM PDT reply actions  

No need to panic

since after the oceans rise due to climate change, we’ll all be in the Central time zone.

Don't blame me, I voted for Ice Cream

by Englishmajor on Jun 18, 2008 12:31 PM PDT up reply actions  

shouldn't that be the mountain time zone?

As a Chicago resident, I can vouch for the fact that most of this part of the country is really, really flat.

by colin on Jun 18, 2008 1:42 PM PDT up reply actions  

at least it lets you see for miles and miles

is that a tornado over there?

Pessimism FTW! ... Wait what?

by Zonis on Jun 18, 2008 3:17 PM PDT up reply actions  

grammar mavens!

is it “a series of films was” or “a series of films were”? I think it’s the former but just wanted to check.

Also, I would like to draw your attention to my new sig.

Children, until we have taught them better, will be perfectly happy with a seasonal round of games in which conkers succeeds hopscotch.

by salb918 on Jun 18, 2008 12:16 PM PDT reply actions  

was

pam5981: Patience is a virtue that I do not possess.
ohtobe21likehuston: But you're good at drinking and cussing. Two out of three ain't bad.

by pam5981 on Jun 18, 2008 12:25 PM PDT up reply actions  

thanks.

Children, until we have taught them better, will be perfectly happy with a seasonal round of games in which conkers succeeds hopscotch.

by salb918 on Jun 18, 2008 12:35 PM PDT up reply actions  

One sery, two or more series.

Where do I send the invoice—to Blez?

The meaning of life is not so much 'found,' as it is 'made.' --Opus

by The Dogfather on Jun 18, 2008 12:27 PM PDT up reply actions  

oh, fine.

thanks to you too.

Children, until we have taught them better, will be perfectly happy with a seasonal round of games in which conkers succeeds hopscotch.

by salb918 on Jun 18, 2008 12:35 PM PDT up reply actions  

Zito: 2 IP, 5 H, 5 R, 4 BB, 2 K, 57 pitches, 31 strikes

To be fair, he was lifted for a pinch hitter. Starts like this in the AL can go from disastrous to poor with a few extra shutout innings.

Children, until we have taught them better, will be perfectly happy with a seasonal round of games in which conkers succeeds hopscotch.

by salb918 on Jun 18, 2008 1:38 PM PDT reply actions  

Looks like a slight upward trend in his K rate today

13% for the game vs. 11% for the season. Maybe he’s finally turning it around.

The A's colors are green and gold.

by mikeA on Jun 18, 2008 1:43 PM PDT up reply actions  

It almost makes me feel sorry for him.

Almost.

Every time I start to feel sorry for him, I think of $18,000,000 reasons why I shouldn’t feel sorry for him.

Okay, so when he retires/traded/DFAed, he’ll never be able to set foot in San Francisco again. That’s not the end of the world. Besides, LA loves him.

"You know, a long time ago being crazy meant something. Nowadays everybody's crazy."

-Charles Manson

by kaweahkaweah on Jun 18, 2008 1:53 PM PDT up reply actions  

Lifted for a pinch hitter

But I’m sure Barry could have struck out swinging at a wild pitch just as effectively as Horowitz.

by green star oakland on Jun 18, 2008 1:55 PM PDT up reply actions  

Page'll likely change soon

But at the moment the home page of sfgate.com has a lovely teaser line on the developing Cal Tree Sitter saga:

Tree-Top Demolition, Day 2

UC arborists are greeted with screams, but so far no more biting or flung excrement.

How do the angels get to sleep when the devil leaves the porchlight on?

by FreeSeatUpgrade on Jun 18, 2008 2:12 PM PDT reply actions  

the fact that I'm avoiding the obvious gag ...

... that would provide an on-topic reference to the event described in this Jon Carroll column helps prove that the event was in extremely poor taste.

If we can’t fix the stupid, can we at least beat them senseless? @('.')@

by monkeyball on Jun 18, 2008 2:22 PM PDT reply actions  

They did this to me when I was in HS.

Except in our case, the whole school knew. It was a planned thing where certain students would “die” and walk out of class in dramatic fashion with the grim reaper. Then someone came in and read an obituary for them. There was a big assembly outside where they had brought in a wrecked car and the dead students were strewn around it. A helicopter landed on our field and took away one of the victims. It was a little over the top, to say the least.

I wasn’t quite cynical enough to play hackeysack behind the bleachers while this went on, but I did bring a book to read.

Children, until we have taught them better, will be perfectly happy with a seasonal round of games in which conkers succeeds hopscotch.

by salb918 on Jun 18, 2008 2:32 PM PDT up reply actions  

I totally don't remember this.

pam5981: Patience is a virtue that I do not possess.
ohtobe21likehuston: But you're good at drinking and cussing. Two out of three ain't bad.

by pam5981 on Jun 18, 2008 3:00 PM PDT up reply actions  

You had graduated, I was a senior.

Remember Mr. Wright? He was so touched by the whole thing that he gave everyone his home phone number and told us to call him if we ever needed a sober ride. That was nice of him.

Children, until we have taught them better, will be perfectly happy with a seasonal round of games in which conkers succeeds hopscotch.

by salb918 on Jun 18, 2008 4:57 PM PDT up reply actions  

Aw. Loved that guy.

He was my tennis coach too.

I know they do that program now, because my cousin was involved in it. I thought I had mentally blocked it out.

pam5981: Patience is a virtue that I do not possess.
ohtobe21likehuston: But you're good at drinking and cussing. Two out of three ain't bad.

by pam5981 on Jun 18, 2008 5:04 PM PDT up reply actions  

I often give people my number when I offer them a "sober ride"

... usually not high school students, though.

How ‘bout "jackass"? Can I still say "jackass"? @('.')@

by monkeyball on Jun 18, 2008 5:17 PM PDT up reply actions  

{forwards sal's email to MAFD and MALD}

(Just so 74mk’s head can explode again: that’s Mothers Against Footbag Driving and Mothers Against Literate Driving.)

How ‘bout "jackass"? Can I still say "jackass"? @('.')@

by monkeyball on Jun 18, 2008 3:08 PM PDT up reply actions  

Also, reminds me Arrested Development.

“And that’s why you always leave a note!”

Children, until we have taught them better, will be perfectly happy with a seasonal round of games in which conkers succeeds hopscotch.

by salb918 on Jun 18, 2008 2:35 PM PDT up reply actions  

Reminds me of "Heathers"

Teen Suicide: Don’t Do It!

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by Nick on Jun 18, 2008 5:04 PM PDT up reply actions  

This story really pissed me off

when it was reported last month. Lying and manipulating children are means which are never justified by the ends sought—ends which, as Jon points out, are very unlikely to be achieved. And the whole thing was promulgated by their guidance counselor. That part shocked me at first, until I remembered that my High school guidance counselor (me and the rest of the kids last named A-G) was the school football coach.

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by FreeSeatUpgrade on Jun 18, 2008 2:37 PM PDT up reply actions  

Actually, that whole exercise never took place, but we pretended it did to teach you a lesson...

about how you would feel if it really did happen. So, I hope everbody learned a lesson about lying and deceiving people and how it’s not good, unless we do it, in which case it’s a good thing, understand?

Good.

Or not.

"If you lived in the now, you'd be home by now."

by McFood on Jun 18, 2008 3:17 PM PDT up reply actions  

any minute now, Jeremy Giambi and Jorge Posada are going to step forward ...

... and tell us all that Jeremy wasn’t actually out, they just faked it to teach us a lesson.

How ‘bout "jackass"? Can I still say "jackass"? @('.')@

by monkeyball on Jun 18, 2008 3:29 PM PDT up reply actions  

When I was in Driver's Ed. in high school,

a CHP officer came to our class to show us slides of the extremely grisly accident scene photos of four of our classmates who had been killed in a high-speed drunk driving accident a few months earlier. Combine that with also having to watch Red Asphalt, and I think I would rather have just been verbally “trauma-pranked.”

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by Poppy on Jun 19, 2008 2:49 PM PDT up reply actions  

Poppy: was it this wreck?

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by The Dogfather on Jun 19, 2008 3:55 PM PDT up reply actions  

whatever website you got that from is buggy

How ‘bout "jackass"? Can I still say "jackass"? @('.')@

by monkeyball on Jun 19, 2008 4:52 PM PDT up reply actions  

That pun did complicate the image search.

The meaning of life is not so much 'found,' as it is 'made.' --Opus

by The Dogfather on Jun 19, 2008 5:10 PM PDT up reply actions  

There's sometimes a buggy

How ‘bout "jackass"? Can I still say "jackass"? @('.')@

by monkeyball on Jun 19, 2008 5:47 PM PDT up reply actions  

This should work out well

Yankees sign Ponson

"May a nit suck Cajun geese?" wonders Red. No, we see gnu Jack Cust in a yam.

by andeux on Jun 18, 2008 3:46 PM PDT reply actions  

virtual humps are fine

but I believe the preferred method is a rubber speed hump that inflates

"Don't be an ass!" --Bill King

by batgirl on Jun 18, 2008 4:11 PM PDT up reply actions  

?

The meaning of life is not so much 'found,' as it is 'made.' --Opus

by The Dogfather on Jun 19, 2008 10:45 AM PDT up reply actions  

It's always a sign of good journalism

when an article includes the word “boobalicious.”

"May a nit suck Cajun geese?" wonders Red. No, we see gnu Jack Cust in a yam.

by andeux on Jun 18, 2008 4:02 PM PDT up reply actions  

AAAAAAAIIIIIIIIIGGGGGGGHHHHHHHHH!!!!!!!!

all-robot band

How ‘bout "jackass"? Can I still say "jackass"? @('.')@

by monkeyball on Jun 18, 2008 4:31 PM PDT reply actions  

???

"JOAN! Are you watching Bombast? Did you see Lack Bust drop that fly call?"

by Jennifer on Jun 18, 2008 5:29 PM PDT up reply actions  

He just misplaced a hop because he let it bounce off the outfield grass

instead of charging it. It cost the team no runs.
He lied done a nice sac bunt earlier in the game, beat out the throw and then stole second off Stanford’s All-American first round pick catcher. This sac later lead to a run. I’d say he’s been more of a positive impact on the game then a negative.

by GeorgiaBoy on Jun 18, 2008 5:53 PM PDT up reply actions  

Question for sal/andeux/colin/whoever

The AL is 67-48 (.580) this year. How much weight should be given to something like this mathemtically compared to team by team performance? Presumably tennis player A beating tennis player B 58% of the time is much more reliable than baseball team A beating baseball team B 58% of the time, which is much more reliable than baseball league A beating baseball league L (for lame) 58% of the time, all in the same number of games. Or is that not right?

Anyway, how would you go about weighting the drubbing that the AL lays on the NL each year?

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by mikeA on Jun 18, 2008 11:13 PM PDT reply actions  

incomplete (and maybe incorrect) answer

Each league is a collection of teams and each team has a true talent level (that we’ll assume is constant, at least for the span of interleague play). We want to compare the average true talent level of AL teams to that of NL teams.

Looking at the results of baseball games is a way to measure the true talent of teams, but it is noisy. As you pointed out, there is some inherent amount of randomness in any game between two teams. Starting with a small number of games, you have a binomial distribution, but it converges to a nice normal distribution (yay central limit theorem!) when the number of games gets large. If two teams played each other 115 times with a final record of 67-48, you could reasonably say (using somewhat sloppy statistics) that the better team had a win probability for each game of 0.582 +- 0.046. So you have 1.8 sigma confidence (about 96%) that one team is really better than the other.

However, this isn’t a case of one team beating the other 67 times out of 115. Getting back to the idea of each league containing many teams with different true talent, you need to add some additional error due to the randomness of the matchups. If the talent distribution for teams in each league could be described by a normal distribution as well, then one could probably come up with some easy way to add the variances, but I imagine that the real distribution of talent among teams is not so well behaved.

However, in the end every team plays the same number of interleague games, so I don’t think the extra error biases the result. There is still some extra error, so your confidence level isn’t 96% anymore, but I think that the interleague results to date still make a strong argument for the AL being better than the NL.

by colin on Jun 19, 2008 10:00 AM PDT up reply actions  

fixing the somewhat sloppy statistics

If team A beats team B 67 times in 115 chances, I would say that it rules out the hypothesis that the two teams are equally matched with 95.4% confidence. This number is slightly different from the 96% quoted above because I took the distribution of results for 115 games with 50/50 odds on each game then summed up the probability for team A to win at least 67 games. I’m still approximating the binomial distribution as normal, so there’s some inaccuracy due to that.

by colin on Jun 19, 2008 10:39 AM PDT up reply actions  

I'm not sure exactly what you're asking

I think colin pretty much covered the basic ideas.
Math part:
On your middle question (“Presumably tennis player A beating tennis player B 58% of the time is much more reliable than baseball team A beating baseball team B 58% of the time”), No, not really. The important things about any binary statistic (heads or tails, hit or out, win or loss are):

1. A standard deviation for one trial is sqrt(x(1-x)), where x is the probability of success. Unless x is near one of the extremes, this is always pretty close to .5. For example, when x = .58, you get .49. (The intuition here is: in one game, the optimal estimate for how many wins team A will get is (around) .5. But since it’s impossible to get half a win, you will on average (in fact, always) be off by about half a win.)

2. For larger numbers of samples, one standard deviation in absolute terms increases in proportion to the number of samples. Equivalently, in percentage terms, it decreases in proportion to the number of samples. So after 115 trials, one standard deviation is around .5*sqrt(115) = 5.4 wins, or .5/sqrt(115) = .047 in win percentage.

Once you understand this, you might wonder how much to regress the sample estimate (58%) to the mean. There’s no clear answer to that; it depends on what your estimate of the relative strengths was prior to those 115 games.

Math/baseball part:
If Team A beats Team B 58% of the time (over a very large sample size), how much better is Team A than Team B? Bill James looked at this (or the equivalent question), and came up with one formula that fits the data pretty well. Using the simplified form, the difference in head-to-head winning percentage is about twice the difference in expected winning percentage over a season, i.e. a .540 team will beat a .460 team about 58% of the time head-to-head.

Baseball part
Going back to the actual case, where we’re looking at leagues, rather than individual teams: in addition to the sampling issue colin mentions (teams have played different numbers of interleague games at this point), you should probably also consider where the games have been played. In addition to the usual home field advantage that all teams seem to have, in interleague play there is an additional effect because of the different roster construction between the two leagues: In NL parks AL teams are forced to sit one of their presumably best hitters and have their pitchers bat, while in AL parks NL teams are putting someone in the lineup who would normally be on the bench. (I tend to think that on the whole this favors the AL team.)

"May a nit suck Cajun geese?" wonders Red. No, we see gnu Jack Cust in a yam.

by andeux on Jun 19, 2008 11:23 AM PDT up reply actions  

Ok, thanks both

First part is what I was getting at. I was thinking that in the league case you would want to regress more towards the mean/prior estimate than in the individual team case, or to put it another way that there would be more noise relative to signal. What I had in mind was something like this (didn’t actually have it mind when I asked):
http://www.insidethebook.com/ee/index.php/site/comments/true_talent_levels_for_sports_leagues/

As far as the advantage, it would be interesting to see how much NL pitchers outhit AL pitchers by.

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by mikeA on Jun 19, 2008 12:05 PM PDT up reply actions  

On the league vs. team question

I intentionally kind of copped out, as I’m not sure how to deal with that, other than the sampling caveats already mentioned.

But you may be interested in the articles linked here which I think get to the heart of your question (in way more detail than most people would want to see).

"May a nit suck Cajun geese?" wonders Red. No, we see gnu Jack Cust in a yam.

by andeux on Jun 19, 2008 12:21 PM PDT up reply actions  

I'm way out of my league (so to speak) on the binomial distribution thing

However, I can provide hitting numbers for pitchers…

AL pitchers: .149/.189/.165
NL pitchers: .145/.183/.183

The similarity is uncanny, actually. I expected them to be further apart than this, if only by random variation.

Makes me wonder if this stat line is something like an “athletes’ mean”. In other words, this is about how well you’d expect a generically high-level athlete to hit at the major league level if they have no particular hitting skills. You know, like Tony Pena Jr.

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by PaulThomas on Jun 19, 2008 12:37 PM PDT up reply actions  

Where did you find that?

I would have expected more of an advantage than that, but I guess it shouldn’t be too surprising. If it’s this year, that’s probably a sample of ~100 PAs on both sides which is not much, but it looks like there isn’t going to be a very significant difference anyway.

The A's colors are green and gold.

by mikeA on Jun 19, 2008 4:39 PM PDT up reply actions  

sort of like Emil's platoon advantage

How ‘bout "jackass"? Can I still say "jackass"? @('.')@

by monkeyball on Jun 19, 2008 4:52 PM PDT up reply actions  

Baseball-Reference,

League splits.

Wouldn’t be too hard to extend the analysis back to the start of interleague play, but I’m lazy.

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by PaulThomas on Jun 19, 2008 5:46 PM PDT up reply actions  

Speaking of Bayesian statistics

you may be amused by this.

"May a nit suck Cajun geese?" wonders Red. No, we see gnu Jack Cust in a yam.

by andeux on Jun 19, 2008 6:45 PM PDT up reply actions  

Haha, he does Cal proud

In defense of the dumbass idiot why-does-anyone-let-him-write-articles-for-them Easterbrook, though:
-It is worth devoting resources to prevent a very low-probability asteroid hit.
-What NASA is doing instead is trying to beat China (back) to the moon, since not sending more people to the moon (or maybe blowing them up) 40 years after we already sent people to the moon could only end in all of us speaking Chinese, or something.

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by mikeA on Jun 19, 2008 7:09 PM PDT up reply actions  

Alright, we're going to have to agree to disagree on this one

Easterbrook has done more to popularize advanced (read: not utterly moronic) football analysis than anyone I’m aware of, and he routinely calls out unsafe and/or asinine practices in the sport.

You may not enjoy his writing style (and he may have jumped the shark, who knows), but a. he is in no sense an idiot, and b. football would be distinctly the worse for it had he never picked up his pen.

Your 2008 Athletics: It's Nothing Personal.

by PaulThomas on Jun 19, 2008 10:51 PM PDT up reply actions  

He has a column he likes so much

that he writes the same damn one every week. Blitzing fails. Hubris tempts the football gods. Sportsmanship is important. So is the running game. Blitzing fails. Whatever happened to moral rectitude? Brutally unfunny phony team nicknames. Did I mention blitzing fails? Copy/paste from auto text.

He’s a terrible cherry-picker of stats to serve his quite orthodox football doctrine. But worst of all, his is the single most insufferable ego writ on the page of a regular sports column anywhere in America today. Seriously…if his self-love were run through the Large Hadrom Collider it’d spawn Easter-strangelets that would tear apart matter as we know it.

(Also, I’d have thought you’d find his frequent sermons tiresome; I know I do).

How do the angels get to sleep when the devil leaves the porchlight on?

by FreeSeatUpgrade on Jun 19, 2008 11:23 PM PDT up reply actions  

Funny

Considering that I routinely get irritated by religious drivel of one sort or another, you would think that that would irk me. And, quite honestly, it does. But it’s a rather small segment of his overall body of work. And unlike, say, Josh Hamilton, he compartmentalizes it. You can basically take those segments of his writing, pitch them out the window, and be none the worse for it.

Easterbrook is a popularizer. It’s easy to be contemptuous of popularizers, because they (pretty much by definition) boil complicated issues down to simple points. We would probably like it better if he attacked issues with rigorous analysis instead of quick precis. (I don’t know how to pluralize that word…) Most of the audience would not.

As for the ego… well, if I had a problem with that, I’d need to check myself into a psych ward for split personality syndrome.

Your 2008 Athletics: It's Nothing Personal.

by PaulThomas on Jun 20, 2008 11:40 AM PDT up reply actions  

He's more of a "wrongizer"

He takes complicated issues and makes them wrong.

The A's colors are green and gold.

by mikeA on Jun 20, 2008 12:00 PM PDT up reply actions  

It's really just the opposite

I actually like some things about Easterbrook’s writing style – when he first came to ESPN in 2002, I thought his “mock mock draft” column was a riot, and started reading him religiously in that first year. Some of the nicknames are kind of clever (at least the first thousand times or so). And his annual post-season column looking back at horrible predictions by various pundits (including himself) is still amusing.

But it’s his attempts at serious analysis that are infuriatingly bad. He spends half of his column (rightly) calling out other members of the press for lazily repeating conventional wisdom with no real supporting evidence – and then the other half spouting his own version of equally unsupported drivel, passed off as science or common sense. Some of it he is probably right about (“fraidy-cat punts”), some of it almost certainly wrong (“pass wacky” offenses, and when to go for the 2 point conversion), and some of it I have no idea (blitzing), but his arguments are anything but advanced

It’s not just that, as FSU mentions, all he offers as evidence are a few cherry-picked examples. The reasoning that he always uses with those examples (along the lines of “since the average pass play only yields 5.6 yards, all they had to do was play a normal defense”) contains no less than three (possibly four) distinct logical/statistical fallacies, which is actually a rather remarkable feat for a single short sentence. And he repeats it over and over again.

I know I shouldn’t get worked up about a column that’s not intended to be taken all that seriously. But I have a low tolerance for intellectually dishonest bullshit, even in the guise of irreverence. And it doesn’t help that his more serious journalism, about scientific and political issues, isn’t much better.

"May a nit suck Cajun geese?" wonders Red. No, we see gnu Jack Cust in a yam.

by andeux on Jun 20, 2008 10:17 AM PDT up reply actions  

I don't read his football articles, being that each day contains but 24 hours...

this is the sort of stuff I hate, and it is indeed idiotic.

There is also this.

He is also (or at least was) an intelligent design advocate (“teach the controversy”)....

On top of that, I have it on good authority from someone who works in that biz that he routinely makes shit up in his articles that then have to be corrected.

The A's colors are green and gold.

by mikeA on Jun 20, 2008 10:50 AM PDT up reply actions  

{resists posting another pic from same film}

How ‘bout "jackass"? Can I still say "jackass"? @('.')@

by monkeyball on Jun 20, 2008 1:53 PM PDT up reply actions  

i agree with that position on intelligent design

i don’t want schoolkids assuming god is intelligent if there is not hard scientific evidence to support it.

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by xbhaskarx on Jun 20, 2008 5:59 PM PDT up reply actions  

"Teach the controversy" sounds good to me.

Don’t schoolkids believe that 90% of what they’re told in school is bullshit, anyway? I know I did. I don’t see why it should be any different with intelligent design or evolution.

In eighth grade I was taught the Bohr model of the atom, with orbiting electrons and all. And I was taught all manner of tripe about U.S. history. So what’s the big deal if biology is wrong, too?

"Dispatch knuckleheadedness with Bond-like aplomb." –74mk

by iglew on Jun 20, 2008 6:57 PM PDT up reply actions  

It is not a biological or scientific controversy in any sense

and thus should not be taught in a biology or “science” course. None of the science courses I took sought to explain “the ultimate origins of life.” Instead they taught what is known about evolution, which does not address the ultimate origins of life. The entire and only point of teaching intelligent design is to cast doubt in permeable minds as to basic facts about evolution. There is no controversy whatsoever in biology. The only controversy arises when various people think that their religion will be undermined by the teaching of the current state of biology. These people are called “wingnuts” and we do not teach their texts in biology class for much the same reason that we do not assign Lyndon Larouche texts in social science classes.

And your point seems to be: “I was taught some stupid shit which was false, so what’s the problem with kids being taught other, different, stupid shit.” My answer is obviously found in the way I framed that sentence…

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by mikeA on Jun 20, 2008 7:10 PM PDT up reply actions  

It's not just me who was taught stupid shit.

Most of what kids are taught in school is propaganda. I just think it’s silly that people get all up in arms about this one thing, when it’s no different from all the rest.

I went to a good school by the way. Good schools teach stupid shit, too. That’s their job.

"Dispatch knuckleheadedness with Bond-like aplomb." –74mk

by iglew on Jun 21, 2008 1:20 AM PDT up reply actions  

also because american students are not falling far enough behind in the hard sciences right now

A's v Giants "is kind of like the difference between going to see the Ramones and going to see the Bee Gees. A's fans will go see the Ramones." -BB 07/27/05

by xbhaskarx on Jun 20, 2008 7:17 PM PDT up reply actions  

A's v Giants "is kind of like the difference between going to see the Ramones and going to see the Bee Gees. A's fans will go see the Ramones." -BB 07/27/05

by xbhaskarx on Jun 19, 2008 5:02 PM PDT reply actions  

Pls tell me that's Emil, headed out of town.

The meaning of life is not so much 'found,' as it is 'made.' --Opus

by The Dogfather on Jun 19, 2008 5:09 PM PDT up reply actions  

uhh.. emil brown and eddie murphy don't look alike

unlike willie randolph

and eliot spitzer

A's v Giants "is kind of like the difference between going to see the Ramones and going to see the Bee Gees. A's fans will go see the Ramones." -BB 07/27/05

by xbhaskarx on Jun 19, 2008 5:30 PM PDT up reply actions  

i picked photos of them standing next to the same guy so the similarities would be more obvious…

A's v Giants "is kind of like the difference between going to see the Ramones and going to see the Bee Gees. A's fans will go see the Ramones." -BB 07/27/05

by xbhaskarx on Jun 19, 2008 5:32 PM PDT up reply actions  

Wow

having that guy as your lieutenant is like the kiss of death.

"May a nit suck Cajun geese?" wonders Red. No, we see gnu Jack Cust in a yam.

by andeux on Jun 19, 2008 5:35 PM PDT up reply actions  

Eliot Spitzer, Uniform #9

How ‘bout "jackass"? Can I still say "jackass"? @('.')@

by monkeyball on Jun 19, 2008 5:50 PM PDT up reply actions  

... with horizontal pinstripes.

The meaning of life is not so much 'found,' as it is 'made.' --Opus

by The Dogfather on Jun 19, 2008 5:52 PM PDT up reply actions  

KINCAID!!!

How ‘bout "jackass"? Can I still say "jackass"? @('.')@

by monkeyball on Jun 19, 2008 5:48 PM PDT up reply actions  

the stunt drivers were really impressed.

A's v Giants "is kind of like the difference between going to see the Ramones and going to see the Bee Gees. A's fans will go see the Ramones." -BB 07/27/05

by xbhaskarx on Jun 19, 2008 6:07 PM PDT up reply actions  

here's another one...

A's v Giants "is kind of like the difference between going to see the Ramones and going to see the Bee Gees. A's fans will go see the Ramones." -BB 07/27/05

by xbhaskarx on Jun 19, 2008 6:16 PM PDT reply actions  

The meaning of life is not so much 'found,' as it is 'made.' --Opus

by The Dogfather on Jun 19, 2008 6:22 PM PDT reply actions  

Boy howdy are the Rays a fun team.

Children, until we have taught them better, will be perfectly happy with a seasonal round of games in which conkers succeeds hopscotch.

by salb918 on Jun 19, 2008 7:12 PM PDT reply actions  

boo

The A's colors are green and gold.

by mikeA on Jun 19, 2008 7:15 PM PDT up reply actions  

I turned the game on to root against them.

Wild card and whatnot.

I ended up cheering for them.

Children, until we have taught them better, will be perfectly happy with a seasonal round of games in which conkers succeeds hopscotch.

by salb918 on Jun 19, 2008 9:19 PM PDT up reply actions  

I watched the Cubs rally to take the 3-1 lead, then left for awhile,

and was dismayed to see what happened….

The Rays (even with their improved uniforms/FO) shouldn’t even exist. Go Royals.

The A's colors are green and gold.

by mikeA on Jun 19, 2008 9:28 PM PDT up reply actions  

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