Open Game Thread: Game 68 - A's @ Giants (cont.)
by monkeyball on Jun 14, 2008 8:00 PM PDT
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Better guess this time, monkeyball
Let’s Go A’s – two innings left, add on please
"There's m'fn sprinklers on the m'fn infield!'" - Ice Cream (AN), 6/13/08
He just lost Cain!
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I hope he looks lost every night
He’s now 2-4
Prince: This bores me. Is anyone up for a game of basketball?
Cain gone
lets open this thing up now
by asfaninpismobeach on Jun 14, 2008 8:07 PM PDT reply actions
Taschner could provide
some cushion….
esp. want to see “Jack v. Jack” with a resulting Jack.
"I never predict anything, and I never will." Paul Gascoigne, English footballer
by One won lost won on Jun 14, 2008 8:09 PM PDT up reply actions
If you're reading this monkeyball,
I gave a nice L(n)OL (but still an “L”) to both the new threads, so kudos…
The A's colors are green and gold.
I had a third one set for 9:00 ...
Nico deprived you of actually Ling OL.
Is it prurient? I don’t know what to tell you. I think it’s odd and interesting. It’s part of life. @('.')@
With Bonds Gone ...
The Giants are actually a reasonably likable club. I’ve followed them closely this year. They’re very close to being a .500 club … but man their bullpen is just awful. Would be nice to see the A’s tack one on here. Bunt, please …
Brown pinch-hit for Smith
and Smith was batting 1.000!!
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by One won lost won on Jun 14, 2008 8:10 PM PDT up reply actions
Uh, FP? Brown already pinch-hit you moron.
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Bunting in Sacramento
Is it against the law to teach how to bunt in Sacramento?
That is not an example of why you bunt!!
I don’t care what the outcome was.
"I can't wait for tommorrow, cause I get so much cooler every day" - shirt worn by Swish
That was the right decision by Taschner, though
because Ellis was running. Catch = DP.
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true, and it looked like it went all the way into his glove before coming out
The A's colors are green and gold.
Okay, Jack v. Jack!!
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by One won lost won on Jun 14, 2008 8:11 PM PDT reply actions
Swooney bunted, Taschner made a diving attempt to catch it, FAILED
"There's m'fn sprinklers on the m'fn infield!'" - Ice Cream (AN), 6/13/08
Bunt too strong, Taschner dove toward the 3B line, ball squirmed...
...its way out of his glove.
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rats! call goes against A's
Sweeney was safe!!
"I never predict anything, and I never will." Paul Gascoigne, English footballer
by One won lost won on Jun 14, 2008 8:15 PM PDT up reply actions
close enough that it's hard to complain though. those always go to the defense.
The A's colors are green and gold.
That's one of the worst base calls I've seen in a very, very long time
I know umpires can’t be punished for ineptitude, but that guy should spend about a year in A ball. That was truly terrible.
http://bocropleasestopswingingatbadpitches.blogspot.com/
by thejd44 on Jun 14, 2008 8:16 PM PDT reply actions
Not only did he miss the call, he was out of position and...
...put himself in the way of a possible throw by Vizquel.
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good question
since they just picked off Rajai Davis!!
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by One won lost won on Jun 14, 2008 8:18 PM PDT up reply actions
they'd bring him in for defense anyway
might as well have him run (that is, assuming he doesn’t get picked off)
for defense afterwards
the opposition’s ABs will always be much higher leverage when the A’s are ahead.
The A's colors are green and gold.
Ellis scores! PB!
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by One won lost won on Jun 14, 2008 8:17 PM PDT reply actions
WP or PB??
what’s the official scoring?
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by One won lost won on Jun 14, 2008 8:20 PM PDT up reply actions
Wooooooooooo!
pam5981: Patience is a virtue that I do not possess.
ohtobe21likehuston: But you're good at drinking and cussing. Two out of three ain't bad.
Not that.
pam5981: Patience is a virtue that I do not possess.
ohtobe21likehuston: But you're good at drinking and cussing. Two out of three ain't bad.
Who gets DFA'd first - Brown or Davis?
"There's m'fn sprinklers on the m'fn infield!'" - Ice Cream (AN), 6/13/08
giants suck
got no offense, have ok pitching, and yet they still get the fans. its dumb
It's Been A Great Year! Thanks Warriors!
true
but that goes to show giants fans are just going out cause of the park not cause of the team.
It's Been A Great Year! Thanks Warriors!
What's that gonna show about A's fans
if and when they (only) come out to Fremont?
pam5981: Patience is a virtue that I do not possess.
ohtobe21likehuston: But you're good at drinking and cussing. Two out of three ain't bad.
u got me there
A’s fans gotta go out and support a winning franchise., like our beloved a’s! It shouldnt matter about parks, it should matter about the team. But in a few years the A’s shoudl still be raw and the fans will go out and enjoy both things, not just one.
I.E. A losing franchise should lose season ticket holders, but the giants are somehow able to maintain that fan base, which could in a way say that they are going out cause of the park, but I know there are many other reasons as to why the still have fans
It's Been A Great Year! Thanks Warriors!
I just don't get it
so much is said about Davis’s speed, it’s really his big asset, but his baserunning skills are, at best, suspect. Maybe he should work on that.
Man, someone should really tell Davis that he needs to be a good baserunner to be on the team....
And I want him on the team, but… gaffe after gaffe…
The A's colors are green and gold.
That was one of the ugliest half-innings I've ever seen
by green star oakland on Jun 14, 2008 8:21 PM PDT reply actions
Giants Actually Don't Suck
Their bullpen is just awful, but there aren’t too many teams who have 3 arms like Lincecum, Cain and Sanchez. Kind of reminds me a little bit of the A’s when they had Norris, McCatty, Langford, Keough … and not a single arm in the pen.
As for their offense, they have 4 starters (Rowand, Molina, Wynn and Durham) who are above .300 and generally give you a good AB every time. They have some young guys who are playing pretty well, too, including Bowker. I don’t understand why Boche keeps playing Vizquel, who is totally done, but it’s nice to see the Giants do better. With Bonds gone, once they fire their PA announcer and ban cell phones there won’t be much left to hate, except maybe Jon Miller and his constant: “Here’s the pitch … SLIDER …. “
Regarding Omar
MCC was thilled when he started the year on the DL because it meant he would miss enough games to keep his 2009 option from vesting.
"There's m'fn sprinklers on the m'fn infield!'" - Ice Cream (AN), 6/13/08
I agree.
At some point, they need to have some kind of direction. The old guys are tying up roster spots for young guys who could make a difference in ‘09. This team is NOT a contender in ‘08. The Giants are in a void between the Bonds’ years and the future.
A's, baby!
by Coach Cleats on Jun 14, 2008 8:30 PM PDT up reply actions
I'm not sure
anyone is blocked….heck, Bocock was a single-A guy…they had no one for SS.
And they got their third baseman Castilla right near opening day from Florida!
Injury to Fransden (out for the year)....
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by One won lost won on Jun 14, 2008 8:32 PM PDT up reply actions
Whoa, acrobatics.
pam5981: Patience is a virtue that I do not possess.
ohtobe21likehuston: But you're good at drinking and cussing. Two out of three ain't bad.
15 yard penalty on CarGo for the cut block
"There's m'fn sprinklers on the m'fn infield!'" - Ice Cream (AN), 6/13/08
by doctorK on Jun 14, 2008 8:25 PM PDT reply actions 1 recs
Patrol Craft, or "Cutter"?
"I never predict anything, and I never will." Paul Gascoigne, English footballer
by One won lost won on Jun 14, 2008 8:26 PM PDT up reply actions
Foulke Looks Good, Throwing Darts
Ellis usually makes that play
Alittle early for an assessment
3-2, man on first.. two out.
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by One won lost won on Jun 14, 2008 8:29 PM PDT up reply actions
Okay K for Durham
Good work Foulke!!
"I never predict anything, and I never will." Paul Gascoigne, English footballer
by One won lost won on Jun 14, 2008 8:30 PM PDT up reply actions
Not only do
I hate the Angels. They have a ton of Carl’s Jr. commercials. Who wants to see a crappy team and then have to watch people stuff their fat faces in between innings?
by asfaninpismobeach on Jun 14, 2008 8:33 PM PDT reply actions
I hate how the Angels rotate their announcers
I have the A’s game on TV while recording anothe channel, so I have the Angels game on radio and they have Physioc and Hudler on the radio,
Patrol Craft 7 -game hitting streak
only fifty games more, and they’ll show it on BT and ESPN.
"I never predict anything, and I never will." Paul Gascoigne, English footballer
by One won lost won on Jun 14, 2008 8:35 PM PDT reply actions
Now 9-3 Braves
All kinds of good news tonight.
"There's m'fn sprinklers on the m'fn infield!'" - Ice Cream (AN), 6/13/08
9-3 Braves!
Sweetness and light.
pam5981: Patience is a virtue that I do not possess.
ohtobe21likehuston: But you're good at drinking and cussing. Two out of three ain't bad.
Texiera singles in 2 more
Easy to predict that Angels pitching was due to go in the tank like it happens to all teams
no
they’ll just get blown out this game and win the next two games by one run
you didn't get much for christmas as a kid did you
you need to ask for much more :)
I won't be satisfied until the City of Orange Rodentia lose 20 in a row.
"There's m'fn sprinklers on the m'fn infield!'" - Ice Cream (AN), 6/13/08
Asshat on the field
And he didn’t even catch it
"There's m'fn sprinklers on the m'fn infield!'" - Ice Cream (AN), 6/13/08
Woow Suzuki up the middle
CarGon on the H&R, gets up and goes to third
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by One won lost won on Jun 14, 2008 8:37 PM PDT reply actions
Zookie - three hits tonight
"There's m'fn sprinklers on the m'fn infield!'" - Ice Cream (AN), 6/13/08
love that angel-brave score
no blue bunny tonight. wheat free gluten free choc. chip cookies from mix.
alaska A
Angels:
Finally they lose a game they should win. Santana has lived up to his potential so far, and had a bad outing, and they were facing a scrub rookie pitcher. Good stuff.
The A's colors are green and gold.
That Gonzales is intense
He wasn’t overly happy to get a hit. He’s hungry in a way I haven’t seen for a while.
another PB! 4-0!
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by One won lost won on Jun 14, 2008 8:39 PM PDT reply actions
Carney looks like he wants to put a bag over his head
Although I’m sure it is cold. The fog is really dense up here.
Don't blame me, I voted for Ice Cream
+1
very cold day indeed
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by One won lost won on Jun 14, 2008 8:41 PM PDT up reply actions
okay, WP
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by One won lost won on Jun 14, 2008 8:39 PM PDT reply actions
Wow - the Gnats really suck
I almost feel sorry for them. Almost.
"There's m'fn sprinklers on the m'fn infield!'" - Ice Cream (AN), 6/13/08
Brown is up
and will probably pitch the 9th
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by One won lost won on Jun 14, 2008 8:42 PM PDT up reply actions
A's fans are the only ones left in the house
"There's m'fn sprinklers on the m'fn infield!'" - Ice Cream (AN), 6/13/08
I'm just curious on all the Giants hate.
The Giants fans that with whom I have spoken generally root for or are indifferent with respect to the A’s. I realize they dominate the media market, but I also realize that we are comparing San Francisco with Oakland. Just seems pucking weird to me.
I don't hate the Gnats
Just their arrogant, indifferent fans. And KNBR.
"There's m'fn sprinklers on the m'fn infield!'" - Ice Cream (AN), 6/13/08
Agree on KNBR.
The mid-night replay is perhaps the worst idea since playing hockey in June…
by Pucking Insane on Jun 14, 2008 8:45 PM PDT up reply actions
Attitude
San Francisco has a patronizing attitude toward Oakland (and the rest of the Bay Area). Many Oaklanders are irked by it, so they dislike SF.
It doesn’t go the other direction. SF doesn’t resent Oakland, just looks down on it.
formerly known as mdl
Honestly
I hate the indecisive fans even more than the true giants fans. I respect the guys with black/orange hats covered with those croix pins.
I've got one of those pins
Got it back in the 80’s when I was in college
"There's m'fn sprinklers on the m'fn infield!'" - Ice Cream (AN), 6/13/08
The Giants have KNBR
so it causes ire for A’s fans, as they get all the analysis, etc, that an “oldies” station (KFRC) won’t have.
That alone is the cause for antagonism, IMHO.
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by One won lost won on Jun 14, 2008 8:44 PM PDT up reply actions
I dont have the hate
that alot of these other people have. I grew up attending both teams. My Dad had season tickets for both teams through work. I iked moth teams. I became much more of an A’s fan as I got older but I still like both teams. I wont be wearing a split hat anytime soon though.
by asfaninpismobeach on Jun 14, 2008 8:45 PM PDT up reply actions
A's fans always feel we get the back of the bus
With the Giants around. The Real baseball in the Real city with a Real park and that fucking soup in bread bowls, brie and wine, oy.
In regards to the park,
their ownership ponied up the money and self-financed (to my knowledge) the entire project.
by Pucking Insane on Jun 14, 2008 8:47 PM PDT up reply actions
sorta
I think there was more going on than just a straight ownership finance. Loans, etc.
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by One won lost won on Jun 14, 2008 8:49 PM PDT up reply actions
True, first privately financed ballpark since the 1960s
They did, however, get $15 million in tax-increment financing from the city redevelopment agency. Not sure if you’d count that as public. No actual public funds spent.
formerly known as mdl
Even if it counts
That $15M is a bargain considering the amount of development in that area after the Booth went up.
"There's m'fn sprinklers on the m'fn infield!'" - Ice Cream (AN), 6/13/08
If I understand the TIF agreement properly
the City only pays if the property tax revenues really do increase beyond designated baselines (which of course they did).
In other words, the City promises, “if you build the ballpark, we’ll give you X share of the increase in property tax collected from nearby properties as a result of the new Park driving up property values.
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What's with the dead streak of grass in the OF
Has football season started, with the Niners playing in the Phone Booth.
"There's m'fn sprinklers on the m'fn infield!'" - Ice Cream (AN), 6/13/08
sprinklers not quite right
but they’re working on it…heck, right through the game sometimes!
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by One won lost won on Jun 14, 2008 8:47 PM PDT up reply actions
Field was covered for the Kenny Chesney concert
guess too many alcoholic beverages were spilled there
mmmm as messy as things were
I doubt it would have made any difference:)
Geren, you ****
Two nights in a row of Street in non-save situations?
WHY?
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I think he had Street warming up
before the 4th run even scored, so he just put him in?
...maybe?
You can't fire me...I don't work in this van!
Maybe this is the good situation
to see if Street really has 90+ mph velocity back.
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by One won lost won on Jun 14, 2008 8:53 PM PDT up reply actions
Ditto to all the above comments
with the added….. Because he is a moron
I'm not thrilled about Street pitching tonight, but
just out of curiosity, Trainman, given that the A’s are now six games over .500 with a team that was expected not to contend and has had the usual truckload of players on the DL, how do you figure that Bob Geren is not doing a good job?
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I think he is good a great job
but I do think he is going to wear out some of the players. I mean give Crosby, Ellis and Suzuki a day off now and then. Other then that I have no complaints.
by asfaninpismobeach on Jun 14, 2008 9:02 PM PDT up reply actions
I agree about Suzuki
I’m not saying Geren is or has been perfect, but the plusses way outweigh the minuses in my opinion. He has this team bunting for hits, using the hit-and-run, tagging from first occasionally, etc., without sacrificing the basic A’s game plan. And he obviously keeps the team in a good place psychologically because they battle, don’t get down, bounce back. I think he’s done a great job overall.
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I am saying he is a moron for
pitching Street two nights in a row wih his suspect groin.
Geren is doing a good job except he could do a better job with pitching management as evidenced here and with leaving Blanton in too long in most of his starts. Apart from that he is doing well with other aspects of the game.
I don't think that's what you were saying, actually
Or you would be saying, “He brought in Street tonight because he’s a moron for bringing in Street tonight.” What you said was that another explanation/reason for Geren bringing in Street tonight is that he is (in general) a moron. Which he isn’t.
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I do think that is what I was saying
I could have worded it more correctly.
If there is the one area I do not like then that would be that he does not have a quick enough HOOK on certain pitchers (Blanton) and of course bringing in Street two nights in a row in non save situations. I maybe could understand last night as Street had not worked for awhile but tonight was plain stupid. If Chavy had not caught that bad hop, we no doubt would have had a much closer game. I would think Street would need to take care of his groin. Maybe he said he was OK because he’s a gamer but I still do not see the need to bring someone in with a 4 run lead at the risk of aggravating his groin further.
With Geren I like they way he uses the speed off the bench although sometimes he takes out what power we have a little early in the game but that is a gamble. I like that they steal a little more than they do and try the occasional hit and run.
Geren is doing a good job and I guess we have to take into account that Billy is pulling the strings to a certain degree behind the scenes so he may be handcuffed in some of the decisions he makes.
FWIW, I was ticked to see Street in tonight
I’m interested to know more about why. Andrew Brown was throwing when it was 3-0 and the A’s were rallying, so I wonder if Brown didn’t feel right – it looked like Geren was going to go to Street if it was 3-0 and Brown if the A’s added on. Then the A’s added on and Street came in anyway. I have a feeling – or would like to think – there’s more to the story than we know.
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Yeah, Hopefully Brown is OK
There may be something to that. It would have been logical to think Brown was coming in with more than a 3 run lead.
I did not listen to extra innings though.
Maybe we ill read something about this.
cancelled by Benji
DP… all planned!!
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by One won lost won on Jun 14, 2008 8:53 PM PDT up reply actions
Giants broadcast: Toyota Drive of the game
Winn’s single in the 1st. Ther’re desperate
I figured it might've been the chopper over Ziggy
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The return of the HITS discount!
Tomorrow’s game, for next Sunday…..
Don't blame me, I voted for Ice Cream
Whee!
Nothing’s gonna live up to that 20 hit game though!
pam5981: Patience is a virtue that I do not possess.
ohtobe21likehuston: But you're good at drinking and cussing. Two out of three ain't bad.
I've watched that sprinkler clip about 10 times.
Still funny.
pam5981: Patience is a virtue that I do not possess.
ohtobe21likehuston: But you're good at drinking and cussing. Two out of three ain't bad.
Yeah, I'm pretty sure Street's not going to try to pick...
...him off, Kuip.
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Very nice play right there
Chavy is the best
by asfaninpismobeach on Jun 14, 2008 8:54 PM PDT reply actions
You must be joking about listening to Buan.
Why ruin your good mood?
4-0 Win
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by One won lost won on Jun 14, 2008 8:56 PM PDT reply actions
groundout to third, 5-unassisted
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by One won lost won on Jun 14, 2008 8:57 PM PDT reply actions
Atlanta with a sweep
and the A’s with a sweep and our boys make up alot of ground in less then a week.
by asfaninpismobeach on Jun 14, 2008 8:59 PM PDT reply actions
I'm nervous about the trip to Arizona, though -
We face Webb, Haren, and Doug Davis (who owns us, plus our lineup vs. LHP is terrible). If we can weather that, I’ll feel a lot better.
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Thats going to be a rough road trip
Who do the Angels play? Do you know?
by asfaninpismobeach on Jun 14, 2008 9:03 PM PDT up reply actions
Phillies, Nationals, Dodgers
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I don't think there's a better pitcher in baseball
J. Santana, Lackey – there are some guys who can lay claim to being as good. But not better.
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+1
I agree. When Harden is not even on his game, he is pretty good.
To avoid a cliche, I would say when he is dealing, he is “awe-inspiring”.
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by One won lost won on Jun 14, 2008 9:09 PM PDT up reply actions
other guys in the discussion: webb, lincecum, maybe volquez or hamels
in the AL, probably only felix, halladay and beckett.
A's v Giants "is kind of like the difference between going to see the Ramones and going to see the Bee Gees. A's fans will go see the Ramones." -BB 07/27/05
Definitely Webb, Lincecum, and Halladay,
maybe Beckett and Hamels close behind. Felix has been inconsistent – he’s been disappointing about the same amount of time that he’s been awesome – and Volquez doesn’t have enough of a track record. But yeah.
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GAME RECAP IS UP
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