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Dude... We Got So Slammed.

Happy birthday, Hideki Matsui. Enjoy this gift-wrapped Yankees win as a present, courtesy of the Oakland Athletics.

Looking back on tonight's game, it's hard to remember we once had the lead. Carlos Gonzalez, in a rare non-double for him, singled in Mark Ellis in the 2nd inning, putting the A's up 1-0. Blanton was throwing zeroes, retiring 8 straight from the 1st through the fourth, and retired the side in order in the fifth. Andy Pettitte kept the A's bats quiet after the initial tally, making the battle look a lot like a quick pitcher's duel, destined to finish in just over two hours.

But all of a sudden, Blanton couldn't do his part. The high pitch count seemingly get the best of him, Joe loaded the bases to start the sixth on a single by Jeter, and consecutive walks to Abreu and A-Rod. Following a later to be determined useless chat with Curt Young, Blanton served up a slam to Matsui, whose shot cleared the right field fence, and stuck a crooked number - 4 - on the board.

And just as quickly, the good Joe came back. Shaking it off like as if it were a bad dream, Joe closed out the side in the sixth, going 1-2-3, and going into the seventh without any more damage. But as the A's bats were largely quiet, Blanton's 4-batter long out of body experience proved to be too much.

Tonight's game marked Blanton's 9th loss against only three wins, and continued the A's offensive struggles with him on the mound. As mentioned in the opening thread, the A's had only mustered about 2 1/2 runs per game in which Blanton had come down on the wrong side of the final ledger, and tonight, they couldn't even come close.

It'd be nice to blame the wind, which blowing in from left field knocked down two would-be Custian blasts, including what would have been a three-run shot in his second at bat, but blaming nature for the A's woes would be as foolish as blaming the umpires, or the uniforms. When the Yankees had one big opportunity, Matsui slammed the ball out of the park. When we had our opportunities, we got slammed ourselves. Just one pitch. One home run. One loss.

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“The high pitch count seemingly got the best of him”. You could probably write that for every one of Blanton’s starts in advance. I just count any of his starts as a loss anymore.

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by sprtsnwyn on Jun 12, 2008 9:43 PM PDT reply actions  

Maybe

But the Yankees do this to pitchers. It took him 42 pitches to get six outs.

by nevermoor on Jun 12, 2008 9:46 PM PDT up reply actions  

what a frustrating night...

First, Nabokov gets edged in Vezina voting, 113-106, as the award goes to New Jersey’s Martin Brodeur – again. And now this. I usually like to fall alseep to Sportscenter, but to avoid tonight’s “highlights” I may have to search for some other monotonous program…

by SwisherThresher on Jun 12, 2008 9:44 PM PDT reply actions  

Yeah, but I

Gotta disagree with you here. Brodeur will surpass Roy’s all-time wins early this upcoming season and has been the model of consistency for longer than any other goalie in NHL history. He’s won something like 40 games a year for the past eight seasons.

Oh and he has three Cups, a gold medal and a World Cup of Hockey championship. Nabokov is good, but he hasn’t been great until this past season. Brodeur has been great since the moment he got in the league.

by Tyler Bleszinski on Jun 12, 2008 9:55 PM PDT up reply actions  

No doubt

But none of that earns Brodeur the 2007-08 Vezina trophy. Nabby got jobbed on reputation. Brodeur may not even have been the best goalie in New York this year.

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by FreeSeatUpgrade on Jun 12, 2008 10:57 PM PDT up reply actions  

He had a better save percentage

Which is probably THE key stat in hockey when talking about goaltending. Brodeur at 92 percent to Nabokov’s 91 percent which may not sound like much, but the extra percentage point is a lot over the course of a long season. AND Brodeur was playing on an inferior team. His team also had less scoring to support him (222 goals to 206 goals).

by Tyler Bleszinski on Jun 12, 2008 11:16 PM PDT up reply actions  

Hey

He wrote Lolita, he has to get credit for that.

by jahs34 on Jun 13, 2008 8:38 AM PDT up reply actions  

Meh.

It’s getting absolutely ridiculous to see this feast or famine bullshit.

The offense is fucking terrible right now, plain and simple. The occasional 8 run blowout is making the numbers look a lot better than they actually are.

Thomas and the Sweeneys can’t get back soon enough.

by mikev on Jun 12, 2008 9:45 PM PDT reply actions  

Well...

Ryan, yes, hopefully tomorrow. Mike… it might be a while.

Big Hurt—June 20. Can’t come soon enough.

by baseballnut020 on Jun 12, 2008 9:48 PM PDT up reply actions  

Blanton proved he isn't a starter

He has great stuff some of the time, but get him the least bit flustered then his one walk becomes three walks, which then becomes a grand slam.

He was obviously flustered and instead of giving up one or two runs, he gives up the whole enchilada.

Umps have small strikezones sometimes, however unfair. Deal with it.

Time to move Gaudin into Blanton’s spot!

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by oaklandSMASH on Jun 12, 2008 9:52 PM PDT reply actions  

As tempting as it is to focus on the grand slam,

the reality is that Matsui could just have hit a sac fly, Giambi could have done the same, and the Yanks lead 2-1. The grand slam was just more dramatic. What stands out to me:

  • Right now, the A’s are just unequipped to compete against LHP.
  • This was one of the few games where the home plate umpire really did a lot to decide a game.
  • In the day time, the A’s take a 3-0, 4-0, or 5-0 lead into the 6th, with Cust and Hannahan getting drives off of, or over, the wall.
  • I hate the Yankees.

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by Nico on Jun 12, 2008 9:56 PM PDT reply actions  

Right now, the A’s are just unequipped to compete against LHP.

Truer words have never been spoken.

by Tyler Bleszinski on Jun 12, 2008 9:58 PM PDT up reply actions  

The reality is, R. Sweeney, C. Gon, and Buck,

while lefty, can probably match Brown’s .300ish OBP and they can do it with a lot better OF defense and baserunning. And they need to learn how to hit LHP anyway.

Tomorrow it should be bye-bye Brownie or I’ll be in a cranky mood.

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by Nico on Jun 12, 2008 10:17 PM PDT up reply actions  

R. Sweeney

2 for 5 Tonight @ Tuscon. 1 Double. He better be on a flight to SF as we blog. 412/466/621 (34 AB’s)

DFA’ing Brown is a necessity.

Please.

by Colorado Fan on Jun 12, 2008 10:47 PM PDT up reply actions  

True dat!

E-Mule needs to get his ticket out of town asap. Thanks for the one good month, EB but now “Get the hell out!”

:)

by mrod on Jun 13, 2008 12:27 AM PDT up reply actions  

But when Thomas is back one of these guys is going to sit

because Crust will start due to his bat. So why not send one down so they contiune to get playing time. Unless them getting one maybe two at bats and playing one-two innings is going to make them better. I think Buck goes back down first. Then if he begins to struggle CarGon or Sweeney may go down. At least till rosters expand or we fall out of the race then all bets are off.

by A'sfaninNC on Jun 13, 2008 7:52 AM PDT up reply actions  

I still don't know about that

Emil’s been really inconsistent throughout his career, to the point of having had a reverse platoon split a couple years. If you look at his career as a whole, as mikeA pointed out, he’s got basically an average platoon split.

His problem is that he’s just not a good hitter. He’s less not good against lefties.

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by monkeyball on Jun 13, 2008 7:08 AM PDT up reply actions  

How about:

“Right now, the A’s are just unequipped”...........

by mrod on Jun 13, 2008 12:26 AM PDT up reply actions  

All true points

And all (most) of the RH hitters are on the DL. We do need another RH outfielders besides Brown. Ill give him that he was on fire to start the season but that was then and this is now. Why dont the A’s play more day games besides the money and all. Maybe all our power is to come on the road this season?

by A'sfaninNC on Jun 13, 2008 7:33 AM PDT up reply actions  

Prima Facie Evidence of what I've Been saying

He wasn’t the reason we lost—but he sure made it tough to win. Yes it was the Yankees and yes he held them scoreless for 5 innings. But a plus starter in this league cannot then throw an inning away like that—back to back walks followed by a game breaking home run. That is where above average talent ends and mediocrity or averageness or meh or whatever you want to call it begins—just such an inning as the 6th.

And If I thought BB and Co. had more confidence in Gaudin I too would be clamoring for that move—but they don’t so Cupcakes is gonna have to work this out himself.

by madmongoose on Jun 12, 2008 9:56 PM PDT reply actions  

I think Blanton could be tired

He’s already pitched a lot this year as the newly tabbed “ace” of the staff. It could explain why he seemingly goes to hell come the fifth inning and beyond.

Also, he was very upset with the umpire in that inning and I missed some of the calls because I was bathing my daughter and my MLB.tv happened to die at that time, so I’m not sure if he got hosed or not on some of the calls in that inning. Regardless, it’s tough to win 1-0 against the Yankees.

by Tyler Bleszinski on Jun 12, 2008 9:58 PM PDT reply actions  

I couldn't watch the game

but was following it on GameCast and it sure looked like the umpire was being generous on some of Petite’s pitches. What’d it look like live?

by faninphilly on Jun 12, 2008 10:00 PM PDT up reply actions  

Honestly

It was just a bad strike zone all the way around. But as usual, the A’s didn’t make adjustments to try and protect when a pitch was close. Instead they stood there staring expecting the umps to call their opponents out.

by Tyler Bleszinski on Jun 12, 2008 10:05 PM PDT up reply actions  

Blanton got squeezed on the Abreu and A-Rod ab's big time

he looked good tonight. Had some swing and misses. He made some good pitches but couldn’t get the call

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by Buck Turgidson on Jun 12, 2008 10:06 PM PDT up reply actions  

He was really pissed about it

even when he went to the dugout. I’m not sure I’ve ever seen that much open emotion from him.

by Tyler Bleszinski on Jun 12, 2008 10:32 PM PDT up reply actions  

The Ichiro/Jason Ellison game?

Your 2008 Athletics: It's Nothing Personal.

by PaulThomas on Jun 12, 2008 11:54 PM PDT up reply actions  

I actually thought Rivera got squeezed on the 1-0 to Chavez,

and that Pettitte got squeezed a few times too. But Blanton got squeezed when it most mattered, which was the difference, I suppose. I didn’t feel Nauert had a “Yankee” strike zone, just a weird/tight one.

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by Nico on Jun 12, 2008 10:10 PM PDT up reply actions  

This is what will happen at first

if they ever get an “electronic strike zone”.
Side to side, the pitchers will seem like they’re getting “nothing” (that is, “squeezed”).
Up and down, the batters will be incredulous (“that isn’t a strike!!)

Still, an electronic strike zone is preferable to post-game whining. If Joe B isn’t worried that he’s not “getting that pitch”, if he knew it was all “electronic” maybe he handles the sudden “loss of control” better, psychologically, and with a better outcome..

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by One won lost won on Jun 12, 2008 10:16 PM PDT reply actions  

I'd rather keep the umps

and get an electronic Opening Day starter.

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by Nico on Jun 12, 2008 10:18 PM PDT up reply actions  

An electronic strike zone is preferable for SO many reasons

Because there wil be an ACTUAL strikezone instead of a perceived one. Of course, some adjustments would have to be made on behalf of both the pitchers and the hitters. But eventually, having a consistent and fair strike zone for every batter on every team will make the pitchers better AND the hitters better. Everyone will have to improve, and that makes the game better.

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by pam5981 on Jun 12, 2008 10:20 PM PDT up reply actions  

I'm probably in the minority, but I will

never support an electronic strike zone or instant replay. Kind of a “pro life / pro choice” situation – I don’t see anyone on either side changing their mind real soon, so probably not a great debate topic.

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by Nico on Jun 12, 2008 10:22 PM PDT up reply actions  

+1

as the kids say. Idea of non-human ball/strike calls really creeps me out.

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by FreeSeatUpgrade on Jun 12, 2008 10:51 PM PDT up reply actions  

I'm obviously for it,

and instant replay too, but not for every pitch or every call. Some calls are obvious and there’s no need to use an electronic strike zone for every pitch.

What I’d really like to see is an implementation like in professional tennis – each player can make three incorrect challenges per set. If you’re challenge a call and you’re right, you keep your three (or two, or whatever you have left). If you’re wrong, then you use a challenge up. If you’re out of challenges and you disagree with a call, too bad for you. But this way, the player (pitcher, catcher, manager, whatever) can decide when it is actually important for them to challenge a call.

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by pam5981 on Jun 12, 2008 11:03 PM PDT up reply actions  

nah, no "challenges" IMO

Yikes, all we’re attempting to do here, is =improve= the job the ump does. If you allow challenges, say in the 6th inning with Blanton, now he has to decide =which pitch= to challenge. And then, he gets out of challenges, and…???

In my opinion, if I’m an ump, I think I’d like a pitch to be called electronically, strike or “not a strike”. Man, no dirty looks, no weird “back talk”, no catchers “crossed-up and a ball off the mask.” You could concentrate on check-swings, catcher interference, etc.

It’s called an “enhancement” to umpiring, not a substitution for umpiring. As far as “home runs”, make the stadiums accountable. Either put up screens that “catch” the ball, fair or foul, along the lines, and a fence (not a painted line) or “we play somewhere else”. Once again, greed (advertising signs) is causing the problems.

"I never predict anything, and I never will." Paul Gascoigne, English footballer

by One won lost won on Jun 12, 2008 11:56 PM PDT up reply actions  

how about videotaping players?

“Creepy” because it steals their souls??

Would it be more “human” just to bring people out of the stands at random to call the game.
Then it would be really “human’ with all the familiar “human failings”.

When each baseball comes off the assembly line, is it “creepy” to weigh each ball, to see if it conforms to a standard? Electronic scales?? What about the humidor at Coors Field in Denver? “Stepford Balls” in Denver, where they all “bounce” like back in California?

"I never predict anything, and I never will." Paul Gascoigne, English footballer

by One won lost won on Jun 13, 2008 12:06 AM PDT up reply actions  

no way to do it

How do you account for a stance? Different heights of players?? The three-dimensional aspect—this isn’t tennis with just a line—it’s a three dimensional box.

Crazy—simply crazy. I’ll stop watching the game if they resort to such silliness. Although I suppose the machine can’t be “Bevettized”

by madmongoose on Jun 12, 2008 10:26 PM PDT up reply actions  

I know too that the technology is there

No one watching the game would ever know the difference…and everyone participating will know they’re getting a fair shake. No more arguing.

The ump simply has a buzzer in his pocket. If it buzzes, it’s a strike. Each team gets access to the signal, so that an ump can’t miss a call (doubtful). Visually, the spectators and the players won’t see a single thing differently. So madmongoose, ...HOW WOULD YOU KNOW?? and what is the “silliness” you object to??

The game would improve tremendously, I think. Psychologically, I think it would take away a negative that players would not have to deal with…”Does the ump have a bias against me/ my team, and what do I do about it?”

Another problem with “bad calls” on balls and strikes, IMO, is that the umps attempt to “even it out”. “Ooops, blew that one…oh well, I’ll be generous with so-and-so”.

"I never predict anything, and I never will." Paul Gascoigne, English footballer

by One won lost won on Jun 12, 2008 11:10 PM PDT up reply actions  

if man ever travels more than 40 miles per hour, his flesh will tear off his bones!

Is it prurient? I don’t know what to tell you. I think it’s odd and interesting. It’s part of life. @('.')@

by monkeyball on Jun 13, 2008 7:11 AM PDT up reply actions  

On the first railway rides

traveling at the “high speed” of thirty miles per hour, several learned passengers wrote down everything they were thinking, everything that came to mind, in order to compare their thoughts “at high speed” versus “at rest”.

Tomatoes, also called “Wolf Peaches” were regarded as highly-poisonous. A good garden decoration, but eating one would kill you. A highly-publicized “demo” (this was, 1816? 1808?) proved it to be wrong, and prominent “death by tomatoes” expert skulked away from the event to a barrage of verbal disdain.

"I never predict anything, and I never will." Paul Gascoigne, English footballer

by One won lost won on Jun 13, 2008 10:09 AM PDT up reply actions  

Oh, no

I think FSU has a new nickname for ownership.

Is it prurient? I don’t know what to tell you. I think it’s odd and interesting. It’s part of life. @('.')@

by monkeyball on Jun 13, 2008 11:40 AM PDT up reply actions  

funny

I usually think of all the “fallout” from certain phrasings, but that one, “Lew Wolfe Peach” (< sounds Amerindian) I missed! Very clever!

Reminded me somehow of that “Amos & Andy” line…(the 1950s television show):

Kingfish: “I’d love to, Andy, but Sapphire done give me the ol’ tomata…”

"I never predict anything, and I never will." Paul Gascoigne, English footballer

by One won lost won on Jun 13, 2008 2:26 PM PDT up reply actions  

At 88 mph a person can break the space-time continuum

provided the car gets hit with 1.21 gigawatts.

Green Hulk Fists

by oaklandSMASH on Jun 13, 2008 3:16 PM PDT up reply actions  

Well I'm sorry

but you can’t just walk down the the 7-11 and pick up Plutonium in 2008. So unless you know when a bolt of lightning is going to strike….

"Camelot sure fell apart, didn't it?"-Steve McCatty

by 5Aces on Jun 13, 2008 3:54 PM PDT up reply actions  

I love the idea

but it will never happen. At least not in my lifetime. A’s hitters need to realize that and protect the close pitches better. They’ve done a terrible job of adjusting to a bad ump…they just keep the same approach like they’re robots.

by Tyler Bleszinski on Jun 12, 2008 10:34 PM PDT up reply actions  

weirder things have happened

Imagine that the home team advantage in the World Series was determined by an exhibition game!

Nah, too weird!!

How about an indoor stadium?? Not in my lifetime…well, after I get a flying car, then, yeah, it could happen!

Metal cleats, or plastic?
GLOVES?!!! You put GLOVES on BOTH HANDS! ?? Then expect to “bat”?

"I never predict anything, and I never will." Paul Gascoigne, English footballer

by One won lost won on Jun 13, 2008 12:14 AM PDT up reply actions  

Like it or not, the ump is just as much a part of the greatness of the game as the players or the fans.

The umps may be flawed, but they harken back to a time before people wanted everything automated. Take the strike zone away from an ump, and what else in baseball tradition should be changed?

Remember, metal bats may be cheaper in the long run and might provide harder hits, but wooden bats just give us the real baseball feel.

Green Hulk Fists

by oaklandSMASH on Jun 12, 2008 11:06 PM PDT up reply actions  

I guess I don't consider the strike zone a part of the tradition of baseball.

I think the plays should be called accurately.

But they’re obviously NOT being called accurately on a consistent basis. Replays show botched home run calls and Gameday shows pitches called balls that should be strikes (and vice versa).

And I don’t think the strike zone should be taken away from the umpires, or plays in the field either. All I’m saying, that like in tennis, where the linespeople and chair umpire’s decisions can be called into question on certain plays decided by the player(/team) on a limited basis, controversial calls should be allowed to be challenged.

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by pam5981 on Jun 12, 2008 11:18 PM PDT up reply actions  

Although the strike zone has changed over the years, what hasn't changed is that an ump has called it.

I’m usually against further automation when it comes to baseball. Technology is a great thing but too much of it used in a tradition-based setting like baseball further distances the game from its purest and most beautiful form.

The only time when I think that is appropriate may be when home runs are questioned.

A pitcher and a hitter should still account the umpire’s tendencies along with all other things that come with their job.

Green Hulk Fists

by oaklandSMASH on Jun 12, 2008 11:30 PM PDT up reply actions  

So how would you feel about

no contact lenses or glasses? No video allowed, so you cannot review your last AB in the clubhouse (like Cust did, then hit a HR during one game).

Those are all ” technologies” that were unavailable to the “classic players”.
An ump would still “call balls and strikes”. You wouldn’t know the difference, no one would see anything different. The ump would have the benefit of “seeing better”.

If getting the “best umpiring” is not an objective, why not have a lottery before each game of “qualified people”, and then choose out of a hat?? Then it would just be like “old times”!! and plenty of fun!

"I never predict anything, and I never will." Paul Gascoigne, English footballer

by One won lost won on Jun 12, 2008 11:37 PM PDT up reply actions   1 recs

I disagree that poor officiating does anything "great"

for the game of baseball. What made it “great” when Eric Gregg called every pitch a “strike”? It is a well-remembered travesty…nothing “great” about it.

Players cheated and threw games often (Hal Chase) back in the era of 1901-1919, because they’re human. Greaseballs, spitballs. Connie Mack (pre-1900) carried a stick and surreptitiously “nicked it” so it sounded like a foul tip on a check swing. Should we bring back / sanction/ encourage all those human failings, under the guise of “greatness”?? I saw a news picture of Walter Johnson smiling broadly, returning from the A’s victory in the 1912 ?? World Series. He and his teammate bet on the A’s to win, and they did! Gambling! Ah, the “greatness”!!

Hand-stitched balls?? Like the old “dead ball” days?

Everyone enjoys the “crack of the bat”. IMO Aluminum bats just do not allow for the nice wooden sound. Like electric guitar versus acoustic guitar, each has its place. But neither should be played badly because “it reminds me of great times, drunk” .

1860-1890, I doubt that the bats were “real round”. Why should they enforce any rules about the dimensions of the bat?

bring back the irregular bat “greatness”.

"I never predict anything, and I never will." Paul Gascoigne, English footballer

by One won lost won on Jun 12, 2008 11:31 PM PDT up reply actions  

A's Offense Not Very Good ...

In his 4 starts prior to tonight, Petitte had given up 10, 10, 8 and 8 hits … in 26 innings. That’s 36 hits in 26 innings. Tonight in 8 innings, he gave up … 5 hits. Yeah, some balls didn’t carry, but this team has ranked close to the bottom in OPS 3 years in a row.

Having said that, I like this team and I like Blanton. It’s a good a fun team. It’s just not a team that’s capable of winning a division that has the Angels in it.

by solotar on Jun 12, 2008 10:37 PM PDT reply actions  

Good points all

They showed Pettite’s numbers on TV before the game….lefties hitting like .146, righties over .300.
The A’s are simply too laden with RH hitters. So it goes.

"I never predict anything, and I never will." Paul Gascoigne, English footballer

by One won lost won on Jun 12, 2008 11:40 PM PDT up reply actions  

My biggest concern is what were goign to do with all these roster moves

Emil Brown and Raja should be gone tomorrow, buck and CarGon need to stay up. personaly i think Zegs needs to stay up over foulke or KIko. I guess we will see what happens, its time for all the young kids to play

by buckfan6 on Jun 12, 2008 11:25 PM PDT reply actions  

Funny... my biggest concern is that we're 5 1/2 back

and the “core” future of Buck, Barton, and Suzuki look terrible swinging the bat

by demarius12 on Jun 13, 2008 3:50 AM PDT up reply actions  

They are all still young and adjusting to the Bigs

look for improvement throughout the year (hopefully) and if we cast both Davis and Brown away who then do we get to play the outfield if one on those three gets hurt. As bad as it seems unless something unexpected happens Davis and Brown stay and one of the young guys goes down and comes back when rosters expand. Murphy (RH) is on the way back, as is the Big Hurt (RH, June 20) that at least would give us the option of two more right handed bats.

by A'sfaninNC on Jun 13, 2008 7:42 AM PDT up reply actions  

but no righties?

How can they go with an outfield of Sweeney, Buck, Cust, and Gonzalez – all lefties?? I agree that Brown should go but they wouldn’t go with only lefties.

by sacto on Jun 12, 2008 11:32 PM PDT reply actions  

What's wrong with that?

Do you have something against left-handed people?

Root for the Giants? Not even if they're playing al-Qaeda!

by Monday Fan on Jun 12, 2008 11:50 PM PDT up reply actions  

Why didn't they put Ziggy in

when the bases were loaded? The A’s needed some ground ball outs at that time.

by IM4Oakgal on Jun 13, 2008 12:12 AM PDT reply actions  

Crosby

That had to be the worst at bat i have ever seen with runners on second and third with the entire infield playing back, especially that awful swing he took at the third strike. Of course, it means nothing when you lose 4-1, but maybe Blanton takes a different approach with a 2-0 lead and is more willing to throw the ball over the plate against Abreau and A-Rod

by demarius12 on Jun 13, 2008 2:21 AM PDT reply actions  

yes, it certainly was

At least Crosby at least owned up to it in Slusser’s game wrap:


Crosby, who said Pettitte got him with a backdoor cutter, added, “It was a bad at-bat, I was trying to do too much. I think if we score one or two runs there, it’s a different game, and I’ve got to do a better job. I felt that was the turning point.”

“trying to do too much” = standing too far off the plate, taking ridiculous swings at pitches that were starting on the outer half of the plate and breaking away

Is it prurient? I don’t know what to tell you. I think it’s odd and interesting. It’s part of life. @('.')@

by monkeyball on Jun 13, 2008 7:17 AM PDT up reply actions  

Trying to do too much?

That sounds like Barry Zito disease right there. Wait, he’d actually need to say it after EVERY game.

by Tyler Bleszinski on Jun 13, 2008 9:14 AM PDT up reply actions  

Reading my mind...

I read “trying to do too much” and the hairs on the back of my neck stood up.

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by louismg on Jun 13, 2008 2:32 PM PDT up reply actions  

I'd be all for Crosby signing a big, lengthy contract ...

... with the Giants.

Is it prurient? I don’t know what to tell you. I think it’s odd and interesting. It’s part of life. @('.')@

by monkeyball on Jun 13, 2008 3:41 PM PDT up reply actions  

could it just be a mental issue with Blanton?

I’ve been one of the proponents of the “Joe’s getting tired earlier” argument, but that’s not what it looked like last night. It looked to me like Joe simply didn’t want to throw any kind of a hittable pitch to Abreu or A-Rod. He was definitely pitching scared to A-Rod (who is 4/7 lifetime off Joe with 2 HRs and 3 BBs).

Basically, it was poor judgment on Joe’s part—not merely in trying to throw a perfect pitch “on the black” every single pitch for two batters, but trying to do so with an ump behind the plate who clearly had a tight (and consistently tight) strike zone.

Is it prurient? I don’t know what to tell you. I think it’s odd and interesting. It’s part of life. @('.')@

by monkeyball on Jun 13, 2008 7:24 AM PDT reply actions  

The bottom line is

The A’s only scored one run. It is very difficult to win many games doing this. Did Blanton get squezzed a bit in that inning? Probably.

You have to tip your cap to Pettitte for pitching a better game.

by KCa's on Jun 13, 2008 7:43 AM PDT reply actions  

If I've said it once, I've said it a million times

TRADE JOE BLANTON

"The two of them deserve each other. One's a born liar, the other's convicted."

by SwampyD on Jun 13, 2008 9:19 AM PDT reply actions  

Saying it a bunch of times doesn't make it a good idea.

Tell us why the A’s would be better without him. Joe has his flaws but a reliable pitcher who can give his team a lot of league average innings is valuable. Can the A’s replace his innings easily? Maybe it’s just me but I think a team that loses so many innings to injury shouldn’t be looking to part witch a player like Blanton. Convince me that Blanton can be flipped for someone who makes the A’s better in the long-term and I will join your chorus.

Root for the Giants? Not even if they're playing al-Qaeda!

by Monday Fan on Jun 13, 2008 12:54 PM PDT up reply actions  

lefties rock

To Monday Fan: no – i have nothing against left-handed people – being one myself! I just know how the A’s think and I don’t think they’d go with all lefty bats.

by sacto on Jun 13, 2008 9:28 AM PDT reply actions  

Left vs Right

I don’t think many people were bothered by the all right-handed (hitting) outfield of Rickey Henderson, Dave Henderson, and Jose Canseco. Why should there be an objection to an all left-handed hitting outfield? If any of them demonstrate an inability to handle left-handed pitchers, I could understand management being concerned. But if they have three left-handers who handle left-handed pitching well, what’s the problem?

Root for the Giants? Not even if they're playing al-Qaeda!

by Monday Fan on Jun 13, 2008 12:45 PM PDT up reply actions  

The one thing that not many of us A's fans talk about

is the fact the these pitchers feel like they have to be perfect night in and night out for even a small chance at a win. I know pitchers should only worry about what they can control but it has to creep into a pitchers thoughts “Hey, I have to nibble and not give these guy anything to hit, my team cant win if I give up any runs”. I noticed that Smith when he first came up was around the strike zone much more then his last few starts. Smith went about 4-5 starts with very little run support. He now seems like he is trying to throw a perfect game. These pitchers should be out there throwing not aiming.

by asfaninpismobeach on Jun 13, 2008 9:45 AM PDT reply actions  

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