Baseball Is Like A Box Of Chocolates
So, if you had told me that the same team that turned in Tuesday’s lackluster offensive performance would come back today and hit like they were…well…the Yankees, I would have laughed.
But that is exactly what happened tonight, as our A’s, led by Jack Cust, jumped all over the Yankees, to the tune of eight runs and an impressive win. Let me ‘splain. No. There is too much. Let me sum up:
After Giambi opened the scoring in the second with a solo homerun, giving the Yankees a short-lived lead, Duchscherer decided that one was run was enough for the night, and would not surrender another. His line would finish with 7 IP, 5 H, 1 ER, 1 BB, 4 K.
The A’s, on the other hand, had no problem scoring; aided by a costly error by Giambi to start the third to put Buck on first. After Suzuki popped out for the first out, the hits just kept coming: Hannahan, single, Crosby, double, Cust single, Chavez single, Ellis single, Gonzalez double, as the A’s threw six on the board to take the big lead.
They added one more in the fourth on a Cust single, and one in the fifth on a Suzuki single, and the game was all wrapped up neatly until the ninth. After Brown pitched a perfect eighth, Geren went to Calero with the 8-1 lead, who promptly loaded the bases with one out. Embree was called in to face Giambi, and got what should have been the game-winning DP, but Crosby’s throw sailed at first to let two runs score. Another hit brought Giambi around to make it 8-4, but thankfully, the game ended there.
All in all, great game and great win, even if I would have loved to steal a couple of those runs for last night. Congratulations to Duchscherer for another win, but I have to say it: What was up with him tossing his hands up in frustration when Cust was unable to run pretty much half the length of the field to catch a fly ball by Giambi that turned into a double in the seventh? Now, granted, Duke has plenty of reason to question Cust as a defender, but in an 8-1 game, where Cust was responsible for quite a bit of the offense, and physically could not get to the ball where he was positioned? Are you sure you want to show him up like that?
Poor form, Duke.
So the A’s win tonight, even the series, and stay 5 games behind the Angels for another day. They look for the series win tomorrow as Blanton (coming off a tough loss) takes on Pettitte. 7:05 game; see you back here!
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Maybe Duke was pissed because he thought
Cust got hurt? Duke is too classy to show a teammate up like that. I don’t buy it. Nice win tonight! Let’s make it two tomorrow, boys! I sent my check today, BBG! Thanks for organizing this! I’m bringing my 8 year old daughter who is a HUGE A’s fan and we’re flying in from Oregon! So psyched, can’t wait! Go A’s!
by A'sfansince1970 on Jun 11, 2008 10:26 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
I thought so too, but he definitely looked like he did
Yankees announcers were all over it
So, bring on Bonds! Or, not... then, bring back Langerhans!! -One won lost one
by baseballgirl on Jun 11, 2008 10:31 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Did they not address it in the A's telecast?
I’m trying to find it on MLB.TV and coming up empty-handed.
President and CEO of the Ryan Sweeney Apologists Consortium
by Joey C. on Jun 12, 2008 11:39 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Duke just thought Cust could've gotten if Earth had the Moon's gravity.
It’s all good.
Green Hulk Fists
by oaklandSMASH on Jun 11, 2008 10:27 PM PDT reply actions 1 recs
Swooney 3-4 with HR Tonite
Single, double, walk and a K
Ready to come back ASAP
by Trainman on Jun 11, 2008 10:27 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
TV coverage closed with a lingering shot of a 6 year old in Yankees gear
sucking his thumb.
by green star oakland on Jun 11, 2008 10:28 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
Let the kid enjoy baseball
even if he’s going to grow up to be a Yankees fan.
Green Hulk Fists
by oaklandSMASH on Jun 11, 2008 10:35 PM PDT up reply actions 1 recs
better a Yankees fan
than a NASCAR fan!
"You have to have a catcher or you'll have all passed balls."- Casey Stengel
by Gaijin_Suketto on Jun 11, 2008 11:19 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
I don't know
If I had to choose between a NASCAR fan and a Yankees fan, I might just run over the Yankees fan with a NASCAR.
Green Hulk Fists
by oaklandSMASH on Jun 11, 2008 11:59 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
I agree -- I was a Yankees fan as a kid, and grew out of it, so there's hope. .
And my early memorization of their 1962 line-up has come in handy in the years since.
The meaning of life is not so much 'found,' as it is 'made.' --Opus
by The Dogfather on Jun 12, 2008 2:36 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
did you grow out of it, or did you have some help from Bobby Jindal?
Is it prurient? I don’t know what to tell you. I think it’s odd and interesting. It’s part of life. @('.')@
by monkeyball on Jun 12, 2008 2:41 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Where does he go?
Left field with Cust back at DH or sitting, CGon in CF and Buck in RF?
by A'sfansince1970 on Jun 11, 2008 10:29 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
Buck is trying his best to go back to AAA
We know he’s a good hitter but hitting .160 does not cut it.
by Trainman on Jun 11, 2008 10:30 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
We sure dont know that so far this year.....
Been bad since Day 1.
Bring back Hammer.
by OaktownPower on Jun 11, 2008 10:32 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Maybe Buck should rent
the Tom Emanski Hitting Video. It couldnt hurt could it.
by A'sfaninNC on Jun 12, 2008 9:19 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
You know, this is a relevant question
because the A’s are (after tomorrow) going to play six games in a row with no DH.
I think you need Cust’s bat in the lineup, so one of the other three gets benched (or perhaps sent to the minors). Sure looks like Buck to me. I think I’ve already clarified why.
Your 2008 Athletics: It's Nothing Personal.
by PaulThomas on Jun 11, 2008 10:39 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
I still think Buck is going to be a very good major leaguer
But I think he goes down when Swooney is ready. They’re already burning (or have burned, or whatever the terminology would be at this point) an option this year, so may as well let him get regular at bats in Sacramento.
Plus there’s that whole problem where everybody in the OF would be left-handed. And this is a time where you really need Davis for his late-inning defense. And Emil Brown seems to have pictures of Billy Beane doing very bad things (although not bad enough to keep him in the lineup!).
I’m not sure how, but I feel like Buck’s situation is different from Barton’s (since I said before and still think Barton needs to be up here all season). Maybe it’s just that Buck has been abysmal, and Barton has just been bad.
http://bocropleasestopswingingatbadpitches.blogspot.com/
by thejd44 on Jun 12, 2008 1:02 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Emil Brown's "Unknown Illness"
Might solve this problem.
DL Brown.
Activate Sweeney.
by Colorado Fan on Jun 12, 2008 9:29 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Seriously thought
We need to shine some light on this illness.
http://bocropleasestopswingingatbadpitches.blogspot.com/
by thejd44 on Jun 12, 2008 10:08 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
I'm just hoping he doesn't infect the rest of the clubhouse
Literally. I would tell him to stay home until he actually knows what he has and whether it’s contagious. The last thing the team needs is half the starting lineup out with some mystery bug.
Your 2008 Athletics: It's Nothing Personal.
by PaulThomas on Jun 12, 2008 11:09 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
I didn't see it...
...but I bet Duke was just pissed at himself for giving up the hit more than at Cust for not catching it.
by KingBurrito on Jun 11, 2008 10:36 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
Sure didnt look like that.
He reacted right when the ball dropped and Cust didnt get there…and then looked in the dugout like “why is he out there?”. It looked really bad.
Bring back Hammer.
by OaktownPower on Jun 11, 2008 10:47 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
I'm not so sure that was what Duke meant
with the gesture, but that is how it came off. I’m hoping some enterprising reporter (ahem, Susan ;-) asks him about it after the game.
I will repeat that I love watching Duke pitch. He just knows how to work the zone with his stuff better than most pitchers.
And yeah, I find myself still really disliking Jason Giambi. Sure, that energy could probably be better spent elsewhere but I can’t help it.
by Tyler Bleszinski on Jun 11, 2008 10:38 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
Sure, Jason took the money, but who wouldn't take that gigantic deal
He continues to say good things about Oakland, the team and his time here whenever he comes back and he is extremely friendly to our players…..he and Chavez appear to still be very close. I never got the Giambi hatred.
Bring back Hammer.
by OaktownPower on Jun 11, 2008 10:50 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Hey hey - before he was outed
he went on New York TV and shat on Oakland on the back of flirting with the Yankees all through the playoff series.
by green star oakland on Jun 11, 2008 10:53 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Probably fitting
that he hasn’t won a WS ring with them. (He probably thought it was a foregone conclusion when he signed the deal)
"I've never hit a ball that good and not have it go out" –Jack Cust
by PortlandPachyderm on Jun 11, 2008 10:58 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Astute observation.
"You have to have a catcher or you'll have all passed balls."- Casey Stengel
by Gaijin_Suketto on Jun 11, 2008 11:21 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
It was the Letterman show, so it was nationally-televised disrespect
I know this is a very old and tired subject, but the bad taste in my mouth still lingers.
by Ray of Lite on Jun 11, 2008 11:05 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Amen.
Besides that, he oughta get booed for that ugly-ass, cheesy, 1972-lookin’ mustache he decided to grow … that thing is horrible. Bad look, dude. Just abysmal.
I needed a team so I wouldn’t turn into one of the eighty million pink hat-wearing Bud Light-drinking mulleted idiots at Fenway.
by Vacafan on Jun 11, 2008 11:10 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Maybe he's hoping to finagle a part on Swingtown
in which he swaps wives with Jeff Kent.
by Ray of Lite on Jun 11, 2008 11:13 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
...but I like the pimpstache!
It’ll look good when he’s DH’ing for us next year. We’ll have a regular frickin’ Gorman Thomas on our hands!
"You have to have a catcher or you'll have all passed balls."- Casey Stengel
by Gaijin_Suketto on Jun 11, 2008 11:22 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Worst 'stache EVER!
It’s awful!!!! Makes him look 10 years older.
So, bring on Bonds! Or, not... then, bring back Langerhans!! -One won lost one
by baseballgirl on Jun 12, 2008 12:16 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
he should grow a mullet, too...
and use the golden manthong like a scrunchie to pull it back into a ponytail!
"You have to have a catcher or you'll have all passed balls."- Casey Stengel
by Gaijin_Suketto on Jun 12, 2008 12:19 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Or like
he is preparing for a career in porn
(Formerly Nobody Girl)
"We are a complete freak show." -- Billy Beane
by day-to-day on Jun 12, 2008 1:18 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
He's got a headstart with the lam-ee thong ...
... but the shrunken junk may be a problem.
The meaning of life is not so much 'found,' as it is 'made.' --Opus
by The Dogfather on Jun 12, 2008 1:19 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
I still think Suzuki needs a day off...
by faninphilly on Jun 11, 2008 10:38 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
amen.
I just wrote a lengthy comment in the “Expectations Of A Catcher” thread about how I believe it’s silly that Bowen is buried on the bench. He can hit a little and he has decent plate discipline, although he strikes out a lot. Let him start once a week to keep Suzuki, and himself, sharp.
I hate the philosophy of treating a backup catcher as an emergency catcher, and burying him on the bench. This team has an obvious emergency catcher in Barton. Emergency catchers aren’t meant to play stretches of games or even start. They come in if the #1 gets hurt after the #2 pinch hit. They play one game, and hopefully don’t lose it on a passed ball. Then, the next day, someone gets called up from AAA and the #1 either goes on the DL or to the bench. If the A’s started going through catchers like Spinal Tap went through drummers, the emergency catcher would only catch two or three times in any given year. Much more likely, though, is that the emergency catcher will not be needed at all.
(The preceding comment was brought to you by the Bitter Ex-Little League Backup Catchers’ Society, Pacific Division)
"You have to have a catcher or you'll have all passed balls."- Casey Stengel
by Gaijin_Suketto on Jun 11, 2008 11:35 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
agreed
What’s interesting is you’d think Geren, as a former catcher would be more aware of this. But you know just like I do that Beane’s the one calling the shots on Zook’s playing time.
"The two of them deserve each other. One's a born liar, the other's convicted."
by SwampyD on Jun 12, 2008 10:11 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
as a lay Satanist,
I think ol’ Miltie should have ripped the guy’s soul out and eaten it raw.
"You have to have a catcher or you'll have all passed balls."- Casey Stengel
by Gaijin_Suketto on Jun 12, 2008 11:15 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Wow...Forrest Gump meets The Princess Bride
in the same recap! ;-)
I didn’t see Duke’s gesture, but hopefully Cust didn’t either.
I’m looking for Blanton to turn a corner and get a win tomorrow. I believe he’s pitched well against the Yankees lineup (except A-Rod & Posada). Here’s hoping the Yanks don’t feast on Cupcakes.
"I've never hit a ball that good and not have it go out" –Jack Cust
by PortlandPachyderm on Jun 11, 2008 10:50 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
Yes,
Lets hope they stick to something heavier.
Stomper is a badass!
by lynnzgal on Jun 11, 2008 10:54 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
move over bacon, there's something meatier...
"You have to have a catcher or you'll have all passed balls."- Casey Stengel
by Gaijin_Suketto on Jun 11, 2008 11:36 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Rest in peace, Andre

The only Giant i’ve ever loved
Green Hulk Fists
by oaklandSMASH on Jun 11, 2008 11:56 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Did some comments just disappear ?
by green star oakland on Jun 11, 2008 11:06 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
I would argue that should happen more often around here
http://bocropleasestopswingingatbadpitches.blogspot.com/
by thejd44 on Jun 12, 2008 1:04 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Duke has great mound presence
He exudes confidence out there on the mound. After he finishes off a hitter, he doesn’t circle the mound much, just quickly gets the ball back and turns to face home plate, as if to say “NEXT!”
by javaball on Jun 11, 2008 11:08 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
I'd like the Duke gesture addressed as well
Only able to see on Extra Innings, so heard the Yankee broadcast. They thought it was pretty bush league to show up your guy when he’s set up in a shift called by the manager. You don’t see Cust throwing up his arms because Duke couldn’t get Giambi to hit it where he’s supposed to.
I was kind of a Duke fan, but pretty embarrassed by that.
Yanks broadcasters pointed out that the outfielders don’t all throw up their arms when the pitcher gives up a home run…I thought it was pretty classless.
by jeffamerica on Jun 11, 2008 11:25 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
They should address it, for the team's sake
Cust really had to run a long way, and the replay showed that he was trying his hardest. Duke might have overreacted in the heat of the game, but to give him credit, he didn’t get rattled like he did last time, but settled down and got a double play to get out of the inning. Duke is a competitive guy. He would beat up on himself if he give up runs and let his team down. It’s a two-edged sword.
by javaball on Jun 11, 2008 11:46 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Yea, but it is ok to beat up on yourself...
Not to show up a teammate. Duke wouldnt be happy if after Giambi’s HR, he threw up his arm and looked into the dugout.
Bring back Hammer.
by OaktownPower on Jun 11, 2008 11:48 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Why did you think he showed up a teammate?
today’s SFGATE.com with Susan Slusser:
=======================================================================
Briefly: Some viewers of Wednesday’s game apparently interpreted Justin Duchscherer’s gesture of disgust at Jason Giambi’s seventh-inning double as directed at left fielder Jack Cust, though the A’s were playing Giambi in an exaggerated shift. Duchscherer said he was reacting because Giambi has his number, adding, “Jason was 9-for-9 off me (5-for-7 actually), and I finally get him to pop up and we’re shifted the other way. And I would never show up Jack – he’s huge.”
"I never predict anything, and I never will." Paul Gascoigne, English footballer
by One won lost won on Jun 13, 2008 10:19 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Maybe he wasn't throwing his arms up at Cust
but rather at the shift, and that’s why he looked at the dugout and threw up his arms.
Perhaps there are some outside factors we don’t know about, like Duke asking Geren not to put on the shift becasue of how he’s going to pitch him.
Just huessing here because I didn’t see it.
by GeorgiaBoy on Jun 11, 2008 11:54 PM PDT up reply actions 1 recs
guessing rather
I don’t huess anymore
by GeorgiaBoy on Jun 11, 2008 11:55 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Yah, cause there was a hit earlier vs the shift,
ground ball in the first?
by MobiusKlein on Jun 12, 2008 11:26 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
This is my take on it.
After all, Duke talked to Giambi on Tuesday, according to SueSlu in today’s paper, and Duke told Giambi, “No more home runs off me.” Then Giambi hits one. Then they put the shift on, and ‘wouldn’t you know it??!” Giambi barely gets a piece of the ball, and gets a double out of it!!
I believe he threw up his arms at the frustration of not getting Giambi out. Obviously, he and Giambi have more than a passing acquaintance. Even if it was Rajai Davis out there, the shift prevented anyone from getting to that. I’m sure Duke (1) looked into the dugout to say, “Don’t take me out because of something like that.” and (2) he threw up his arms because “Waddayagottado?? !! to get this MF out??!!” I doubt that he “blamed Cust” at all. Bet on it.
"I never predict anything, and I never will." Paul Gascoigne, English footballer
by One won lost won on Jun 12, 2008 2:13 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Susan Slusser interviewed Duke
and it was Duke’s own frustration:
June 13th www.sfgate.com
Briefly: Some viewers of Wednesday’s game apparently interpreted Justin Duchscherer’s gesture of disgust at Jason Giambi’s seventh-inning double as directed at left fielder Jack Cust, though the A’s were playing Giambi in an exaggerated shift. Duchscherer said he was reacting because Giambi has his number, adding, “Jason was 9-for-9 off me (5-for-7 actually), and I finally get him to pop up and we’re shifted the other way. And I would never show up Jack – he’s huge.”
"I never predict anything, and I never will." Paul Gascoigne, English footballer
by One won lost won on Jun 13, 2008 10:15 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
It's because Duke knew that Ellis could have had it.
That’s how fast our mighty 2B is.
"This must be heaven," he says.
"No. It's Oakland."
by Kyli on Jun 11, 2008 11:44 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
here is my question to everyone
When Frank comes back and Lil swooney come back and casillia, who is goign down
by buckfan6 on Jun 12, 2008 12:00 AM PDT reply actions 0 recs
Emil Brown
Sounds like he has come down w/ some “Unknown Illness”, thus, sucking the life out of his bat. It might be a good time to DL Emil Brown. Active R. Sweeney.
Then, in activating Casilla, I would send down Ziegler (He has options, right???). I would much rather see Kiko Calero or Keith Foulke be traded, but that might be a stretch.
Activating Big Frank would probably mean sending down Gregorio Petit.
by Colorado Fan on Jun 12, 2008 9:57 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
CarGon is staying for good and buck
im guess emil is gone and raja and Zeg will be back down
by buckfan6 on Jun 12, 2008 12:01 AM PDT reply actions 0 recs
Raj is out of options, that's why the giants lost him
if the a’s dfa him someone else will likely pick him up.
by OaklandSi on Jun 12, 2008 9:03 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
As bad as it seems
CarGon or Buck will more than likely be the outfielder sent down. Brown will stay b/c he is right handed and a vet, and Davis stays for the reason mentioned above. Unless BB has something up his sleeve which we cant count out.
by A'sfaninNC on Jun 12, 2008 9:38 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Feast or Famine Tomorrow?
So many times this season, the A’s have been either shutdown completely or clobbering the other team with hits from up and down the lineup. What is it going to be tomorrow?
by javaball on Jun 12, 2008 12:12 AM PDT reply actions 0 recs
Great!
“All in all, great game and great win…”
I hope baseballgirl got Ray Fosse’s permission before using this line.
Root for the Giants? Not even if they're playing al-Qaeda!
by Monday Fan on Jun 12, 2008 12:21 AM PDT reply actions 0 recs
"It was really great, Ray."
"He's a misfit. He gets along with everyone." - Reggie Jackson, describing Joe Rudi
by McFood on Jun 12, 2008 7:03 AM PDT up reply actions 1 recs
Great game tonite
Me and my girl sat in Section 105 row 16 and of course were surrounded by many Yankee fans, but also a good many A’s fans as well. Actually, it seemed fairly tame compared to the Red Sox series and we had some good comebacks for the “Stankees”!
The Duke was marvelous tonight and thank god we put together some big league hitting in the third to blow it open…...really nice approach by the A’s as Rasner was throwing some meatballs right down the middle of the plate and the boys in gng jumped all over ‘em!
In regards to Duke making a gesture to the dugout and being upset on Giambi’s bloop double: I believe it was JD just being frustrated at Giambi getting a freebie due to the shift and perhaps everyone is making a mountain out of molehill. Duke is not the type of player to pull a stunt like that (see Mark Redman ala Booby Crosby a few years back) and I’m confident it was just a matter of what people saw and drawing their own conclusions.
Great seats, great game all around, and let’s get those Yankee bitches again tomorrow!!!!!!!! We are the better team and “they” can stiick their 200 million dollar payroll up their collective NY asses!!!!!!
Go A’s!
by mrod on Jun 12, 2008 12:39 AM PDT reply actions 0 recs
I think you explained JD's actions
exactly as I interprete them. Thanks.
"I never predict anything, and I never will." Paul Gascoigne, English footballer
by One won lost won on Jun 12, 2008 2:15 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Yep, Susan Slusser confirms your thinking (June 13th SFGate)
Briefly: Some viewers of Wednesday’s game apparently interpreted Justin Duchscherer’s gesture of disgust at Jason Giambi’s seventh-inning double as directed at left fielder Jack Cust, though the A’s were playing Giambi in an exaggerated shift. Duchscherer said he was reacting because Giambi has his number, adding, “Jason was 9-for-9 off me (5-for-7 actually), and I finally get him to pop up and we’re shifted the other way. And I would never show up Jack – he’s huge.”
"I never predict anything, and I never will." Paul Gascoigne, English footballer
by One won lost won on Jun 13, 2008 10:16 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
UNICORNS EXIST!

Somebody put a MaEl jersey on that freaky animal.
http://bocropleasestopswingingatbadpitches.blogspot.com/
by thejd44 on Jun 12, 2008 1:14 AM PDT reply actions 0 recs
Barton's Catch
Barton’s catch was siiick. Not sure what happens when Mike Sweeney comes back, but I don’t think Barton should lose playing time. He’s head and shoulders above anyone else we can stick at first in terms of defense, and I think his bat will eventually catch up.
by C-Gon on Jun 12, 2008 1:59 AM PDT reply actions 0 recs
Barton is improving a lot on D, especially foul popups...
he dropped some doozies in March and April, but not only is he catching those now, but he’s making some amazing stops at first too. His hitting is coming around, too. He’ll get hot soon, and before you know it, his average will be up to .270 or so and nobody will have anything to complain about.
"You have to have a catcher or you'll have all passed balls."- Casey Stengel
by Gaijin_Suketto on Jun 12, 2008 11:12 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
He's improved a ton
He just looks far more confident and loose in the field now. Those zone ratings that had him as one of the best at the position are starting to look prescient, rather than fluky.
Your 2008 Athletics: It's Nothing Personal.
by PaulThomas on Jun 12, 2008 11:24 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Has anyone seen his reflection?
He rarely seems to get a hit in his early innings at-bats, but after dark—watch out.
The meaning of life is not so much 'found,' as it is 'made.' --Opus
by The Dogfather on Jun 12, 2008 12:21 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
average up to .270
= not
"The two of them deserve each other. One's a born liar, the other's convicted."
by SwampyD on Jun 12, 2008 12:37 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
I really disagree.
Barton’s gonna have a hot month sooner or later… I’m thinking August…
I’ll revise it down a little, but I’d be super surprised if he didn’t end up in the range of .255 to .275 with 10 dingers.
"You have to have a catcher or you'll have all passed balls."- Casey Stengel
by Gaijin_Suketto on Jun 13, 2008 3:50 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
I just love those splits he does when he reaches for a throw
He is seriously flexible.
"Don't be an ass!" --Bill King
by batgirl on Jun 12, 2008 12:41 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Dear Duke: Let's assume he got there in time to make the catch ...
... then what?

The meaning of life is not so much 'found,' as it is 'made.' --Opus
by The Dogfather on Jun 12, 2008 7:39 AM PDT reply actions 0 recs
Lets at least take the third game for crying out loud.
Oh, Yahoo Sports headline perusal this morning.l – Bryant’s Witty Comeback (Kobe) to Schilling. Well, well, I clicked on to see what it was. “Go Yankees” while pumping fist. okay, ah yah…..sure.
alaska A
by ak_A on Jun 12, 2008 7:52 AM PDT reply actions 0 recs
What to do, what to do?
Andy Pettitte against lefties this year: 0.83 WHIP, .189 BAA.
Andy Pettitte against righties this year: 1.76 WHIP, .348 BAA.
Sigh.
I like Cindi. A. She never pretends to know more than she does. B. She has unbridled enthusiasm for her "Hotties," and isn't afraid to show it. -IM4Oakgal
by Nico on Jun 12, 2008 8:02 AM PDT reply actions 0 recs
This is, unfortunately, why I think Emil Brown should stay on the team for the time being
http://bocropleasestopswingingatbadpitches.blogspot.com/
by thejd44 on Jun 12, 2008 9:10 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Right Handed OF'ers
Are there any other options our there? Do the Brewers have anyone they would be willing to give up for Foulke or Calero? Mike Cameron or Gabe Kapler?
by Colorado Fan on Jun 12, 2008 10:06 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
They already traded Gabe Kapler
Your 2008 Athletics: It's Nothing Personal.
by PaulThomas on Jun 12, 2008 10:06 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
They did? When?
I don’t really see the need to trade Foulke. The A’s are still contending, right? Calero, on the other hand, can go. I actually would DFA him before I’d send Ziegler down at this point.
http://bocropleasestopswingingatbadpitches.blogspot.com/
by thejd44 on Jun 12, 2008 10:11 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
PT
Check your facts, man (snerk, snerk).
Yeah, I’m with you. However, I just don’t see Beane DFA’ing Calero in favor of Ziegler. History tells us that DFA’ing veterans is the last option.
by Colorado Fan on Jun 12, 2008 10:15 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Whoops, that was Gabe Gross
I can’t keep these guys straight.
I agree… the team is hardly even using Calero at all. He serves no purpose on the roster.
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by PaulThomas on Jun 12, 2008 11:07 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
That's really my point on Calero
I know I was pretty strong in criticizing him, but really I just think he’s superfluous. I’d rather that roster spot go to another lefty, possibly even a LOOGY (since Embree is used in odd, non-LOOGY situations). Or just go with 6 relievers since Gaudin can go a few innings at a time and keep another position player.
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by thejd44 on Jun 12, 2008 11:24 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
I think the team should move Eveland to the bullpen
and Gaudin to the rotation, which will solve the second lefty concern. Then when Casilla returns, Calero gets the boot.
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by PaulThomas on Jun 12, 2008 11:35 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Bingo.
The meaning of life is not so much 'found,' as it is 'made.' --Opus
by The Dogfather on Jun 12, 2008 12:22 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
was his name-o
"The two of them deserve each other. One's a born liar, the other's convicted."
by SwampyD on Jun 12, 2008 12:37 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
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by PaulThomas on Jun 12, 2008 1:45 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
I
I generally bemoan the profusion of Mr Sabermetric Sporks in the Scrabble ranks who don't know the meaning or usage of 50% of the words they use. -monkeyball
by JediLeroy on Jun 12, 2008 1:45 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
(clap, clap)
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by 5Aces on Jun 12, 2008 4:05 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Johnny Gomes, please
Is it prurient? I don’t know what to tell you. I think it’s odd and interesting. It’s part of life. @('.')@
by monkeyball on Jun 12, 2008 10:20 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
not available, sir
“I’m sorry, but we’re out of stock on that particular item.”
"I never predict anything, and I never will." Paul Gascoigne, English footballer
by One won lost won on Jun 12, 2008 2:18 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
greetings from the Caribbean
Yesterday my work Macbook stopped working. I’ll have to mail it back to my job to deal with it. At the moment I’m connecting (sometimes) to the internet with an old and cranky powerbook g3 (can’t listen to mlb.com audio with it). So last night I went to bed after watching the Cubs-Braves, and seeing that the A’s were ahead 6-1. Early this am I turned on ESPN to find out what happened. they took their sweet time putting up the final score for the game, but left a very misleading trailer first “Yanks come back in Oakland.” I thought the A’s had blown the lead!!! Thankfully (and no thanks to ESPN) the A’s won!
by OaklandSi on Jun 12, 2008 8:57 AM PDT reply actions 0 recs
I'
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by Flashfire on Jun 12, 2008 9:09 AM PDT reply actions 0 recs
I'll be waiting to hear from Urban on the Duke/Cust thing.
Sources, be heard!
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by Flashfire on Jun 12, 2008 9:09 AM PDT reply actions 0 recs
Or we could go ask Milton, if you can keep him out of the Kansas City TV box
of course. Tired Act for sure.
by theblackpearl on Jun 12, 2008 9:25 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Honestly, I'm siding with Milton on this one
Josh Hamilton is great at baseball, but I am so over the media love feast. Talk about a tired act.
(And yes, my usage of a Christian phrase in that sentence was not a coincidence.)
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by PaulThomas on Jun 12, 2008 10:04 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
I'm siding with William Blake on this one
Is it prurient? I don’t know what to tell you. I think it’s odd and interesting. It’s part of life. @('.')@
by monkeyball on Jun 12, 2008 10:25 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
That Milton -- he's always losing paradise.
The meaning of life is not so much 'found,' as it is 'made.' --Opus
by The Dogfather on Jun 12, 2008 10:50 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Is there any way for
Milton to just pass a quote along through the press without running up the stairs and proving what the moron said to be correct?
"The two of them deserve each other. One's a born liar, the other's convicted."
by SwampyD on Jun 12, 2008 11:10 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Milton's gonna murder someone someday,
and all I hope is that it’s captured on live TV…
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by Gaijin_Suketto on Jun 12, 2008 11:16 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
And he'll be found on the golf course
by OJ Simpson, who will tirelessly look for Milty on every golf course until he is found.
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by Nico on Jun 12, 2008 12:54 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
actually, a reality-tv show on Milton would be amazing television
A weekly train wreck of catastrophic proportions, but amazing television.
Is it prurient? I don’t know what to tell you. I think it’s odd and interesting. It’s part of life. @('.')@
by monkeyball on Jun 12, 2008 12:56 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Can anyone tell me...
what the arguement at first was about? I was sitting over by the A’s bullpen and couldn’t figure it out. Looked like a routine play, no?
by JustinKase on Jun 12, 2008 9:42 AM PDT reply actions 0 recs
Barton didn't realize Giambi's foot was on the bag...
...when he caught the ball, basically. When Giambi didn’t try to tag him he dodged without needing to.
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by Flashfire on Jun 12, 2008 10:08 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
I think Barton took another mental timeout on that one
"The two of them deserve each other. One's a born liar, the other's convicted."
by SwampyD on Jun 12, 2008 11:06 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
They explained on the radio broadcast
that Giambi caught the ball in foul territory, ahead of the first base bag!!
So Geren is out arguing, “How can you call that a fair ball, when the ball has not even reached first base?
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by One won lost won on Jun 12, 2008 2:21 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
I doubt that's it only because
until the ball reaches the bag, fair/foul is the home plate umpire’s call. Geren wouldn’t be arguing it with the 1B ump because clearly the ball was fielded in front of the bag.
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by Nico on Jun 12, 2008 3:04 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
maybe that was his argument
“You’re the first base umpire. Until the home plate ump rules “fair ball”, you don’t have a call.”
Ken and Vince seemed to think that was the reason Geren was out there. Maybe SuSlu will clear it up.
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by One won lost won on Jun 12, 2008 3:56 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Milton, Milton, Milton
"The two of them deserve each other. One's a born liar, the other's convicted."
by SwampyD on Jun 12, 2008 11:07 AM PDT reply actions 0 recs
already discussed but still
"The two of them deserve each other. One's a born liar, the other's convicted."
by SwampyD on Jun 12, 2008 11:08 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Well, how would you feel?
Getting slagged in comparison to a guy who spent half his “pro” career bombed out on heroin?
Hamilton gets an utter pass from the media (on everything, on field and off) for two reasons: one, he found Jesus, praise the Lawd, and everyone knows you can’t say anything bad about Jesus, and two, he’s white.
Bradley is a black guy who scares people when he gets pissed off (partly justifiably, partly because they just fear blacks) and does not talk constantly about his wonderful relationships with religious figures.
I mean, the favoritism is predictable, but that doesn’t make it any less asinine.
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by PaulThomas on Jun 12, 2008 11:20 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
One more: Hamilton has stopped acting like an idiot
Bradley has not. Which I think is relevant.
Regardless, I agree that Bradley should be cut some slack for his on-the-field stuff which, frankly, hasn’t been all that bad. It’s those domestic abuse calls that bother me.
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by Joey C. on Jun 12, 2008 11:23 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Milton is such a whiner
I’d like to give him a break but come on. Life sucks and then you die but in the mean time you get paid millions of dollars to play a game.
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by micdog2001 on Jun 12, 2008 11:29 AM PDT up reply actions 1 recs
Really.
So, hosing your longtime agent, a guy who stuck with you and advocated for you even when you basically didn’t deserve it, because you want to move to a “Christian” agent isn’t acting like an idiot?
I don’t think it’s very wise, but that’s debatable. What’s not debatable is that it is unbelievably bigoted and assholeish.
As for the domestic abuse—I’m guessing Hamilton’s drug addiction did considerably more damage to his loved ones than Bradley ever has…
I pity Bradley a bit (a pity tempered by the knowledge that he’s making more money than I, likely, ever will) because I feel like he genuinely just can’t control his temper. He’s like a Greek tragic hero with a fatal flaw. Hamilton is, as far as I can tell, just a douchebag.
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by PaulThomas on Jun 12, 2008 11:34 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
yeah
That about sums it up for me. There was a discussion on Shysterball about whether the old agent will get a commission on the work that he already did. I don’t know what will happen, but if non christian agent gets 0 of the millions Hamilton will get for getting his shit together at the right time, that ismessed up.
by Future Ed on Jun 12, 2008 11:40 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
But just because there is a legit gripe about Hamilton...
...doesn’t excuse a baseball player flying up four flights of stairs to make someone stop saying bad things about him. Are you kidding me? Can you imagine if every time a player was slammed by a broadcaster, the player went after them? No one else does this, except Milton.
So, bring on Bonds! Or, not... then, bring back Langerhans!! -One won lost one
by baseballgirl on Jun 12, 2008 11:46 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Why not?
I think confronting someone that you feel has wronged you is healthy. And I don’t think this was an ordinary slam. I think it was a specific attack on him.
We don’t know what MB was going to do. We can speculate he would hit him, but that would be a guess. Based on the history that we KNOW, Milton has argued with his manager, thrown bottles at the ground, taunted fans and charged at an umpire. I don’t want to discount the DV stuff, but…no case was filed, lets leave it there.
All the acts in baseball have MB yelling and hollering, not giving the beat down. Actually if we go by MO, he just yells until his manager picks him up, just like this incident.
by Future Ed on Jun 12, 2008 12:10 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Does confrontation always have to include a fit of rage?
Can’t you confront somebody peacefully?
I generally bemoan the profusion of Mr Sabermetric Sporks in the Scrabble ranks who don't know the meaning or usage of 50% of the words they use. -monkeyball
by JediLeroy on Jun 12, 2008 12:16 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Seriously.
How about a letter? A press conference? A blog? There are plenty of ways that Milton could have said that a comparison to Hamilton that found him lacking was unfair and biased. Instead, he proved the guy’s point by going crazy. Again.
With the crying jag, et al, I actually do wonder if Milton has some medical issues…that might explain a lot.
So, bring on Bonds! Or, not... then, bring back Langerhans!! -One won lost one
by baseballgirl on Jun 12, 2008 12:20 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Doubt it
unless having a temper is now a medical condition… has anger been cured with a pharmaceutical yet?
If he was in elementary school now, they’d probably stick him on Ritalin…
I’ve definitely been angry to the point of crying before.
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by PaulThomas on Jun 12, 2008 12:26 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
there's a host of valid guesses that would explain Milton's behavior
Is it prurient? I don’t know what to tell you. I think it’s odd and interesting. It’s part of life. @('.')@
by monkeyball on Jun 12, 2008 12:40 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Yeah
Honestly, I do think that the comments (at least what I can make of them) were pretty messed up. I would probably be upset if someone said that about me.
But it made me wonder if he suffers with something (depression, I don’t know).
I generally bemoan the profusion of Mr Sabermetric Sporks in the Scrabble ranks who don't know the meaning or usage of 50% of the words they use. -monkeyball
by JediLeroy on Jun 12, 2008 12:28 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
As someone who suffers from a mental illness...
this [Milton’s] behavior sounds very familiar. There is help.
"JOAN! Are you watching Bombast? Did you see Lack Bust drop that fly call?"
by Jennifer on Jun 12, 2008 12:56 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
As someone who often acts like an idiot,
his behavior sounds very familiar. But there is no help.
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by Nico on Jun 12, 2008 12:57 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
There may, however, soon be a spot for you on the 9th Circus Court of Appeals.
... apparently involving enthusiastic cavortage with certain species of farm animals, and other acts of animal husbandry.
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by The Dogfather on Jun 12, 2008 1:24 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Is it prurient? I don’t know what to tell you. I think it’s odd and interesting. It’s part of life.
Is it prurient? I don’t know what to tell you. I think it’s odd and interesting. It’s part of life. @('.')@
by monkeyball on Jun 12, 2008 1:26 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
There may be poop -- but prurient? I suppose that would

The meaning of life is not so much 'found,' as it is 'made.' --Opus
by The Dogfather on Jun 12, 2008 1:30 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Agree
I am not saying we should adopt the bradly model. But the idea that if you have a problem and can’t let it go, yes confront the person.
by Future Ed on Jun 12, 2008 12:20 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Agreed
It’s definitely healthy to air your differences. In a healthy way, of course.
I generally bemoan the profusion of Mr Sabermetric Sporks in the Scrabble ranks who don't know the meaning or usage of 50% of the words they use. -monkeyball
by JediLeroy on Jun 12, 2008 12:29 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
yeah folks
crazy status is not the way to confront homeboy. he shoulda took a timeout and counted to 10.
"The two of them deserve each other. One's a born liar, the other's convicted."
by SwampyD on Jun 12, 2008 12:36 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
My view is that religion shouldn’t enter the ethics equation here, but yeah, I agree that there is a reason for concern. Based on the article anyway, it appears as though the agent bringing the deal most of the way home is getting cut out as someone else swoops in at the last second.
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by PaulThomas on Jun 12, 2008 11:41 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
render unto Caesar and all that ...
Is it prurient? I don’t know what to tell you. I think it’s odd and interesting. It’s part of life. @('.')@
by monkeyball on Jun 12, 2008 12:16 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Hey, I didn't say the guy is the angel everyone makes him out to be
It’s just that, to me, in the grand spectrum of wrongdoing, dumping your agent who stuck by you and beating a woman aren’t even close. And you can’t dismiss that by saying, “yeah, but that guy did drugs.”
And I don’t buy the “he just can’t help it” line of thought. I understand you’re not saying that it excuses him, just that it prompts more sympathy from you than you have for Hamilton. But it doesn’t engender anything similar from me. He’s less a tragic hero in my mind, just your run-of-the-mill malcontent asshat.
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by Joey C. on Jun 12, 2008 11:54 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
1. I agree with you regarding the double standard, but the “Lawd” stuff is unnecessarily mocking, and makes me not want to admit I agree with you, because you’re being a jerk.
2. Tragic hero? Got caught up in the moment, did you? Can we agree to ratchet down the hyperbole a bit, maybe go with “tragic figure” instead?
3. Milton needs to grow up, and neither Josh Hamilton nor obtuse members of the media have anything to do with that.
4. Now that Milton, Jesus, and racist double standards have been invoked, I predict this thread will have 600 comments by 3pm.
by 74mk on Jun 12, 2008 12:05 PM PDT up reply actions 2 recs
I've rec'd and now I'll +1 you.
"JOAN! Are you watching Bombast? Did you see Lack Bust drop that fly call?"
by Jennifer on Jun 12, 2008 12:14 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
I think that is what he said
HIs frustrations catch up to him and causes him to lose it. I am the same way and I bet most everyone else is.
But yes, Milton’s public statements (As quoted) seem to point the finger outward. It would be helpful if he looked at himself.
by Future Ed on Jun 12, 2008 12:17 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Your frustrations never cause you to lose something
your lack of self control causes you to lose something
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by JediLeroy on Jun 12, 2008 12:19 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
OK
Why do you assume that “self control” is something that someone has control over?
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by PaulThomas on Jun 12, 2008 12:21 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Wow, that's a defeatist attitude
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by JediLeroy on Jun 12, 2008 12:29 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Because people who don't control themselves end up in jail
To live in a civilized society, one must master their temper. It’s hard to go throw life where every time you are wronged, you flip out. It’s going to be awfully hard, and awfully loney. Ask Milton.
So, bring on Bonds! Or, not... then, bring back Langerhans!! -One won lost one
by baseballgirl on Jun 12, 2008 12:36 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
That's a circular argument
You assume that someone has control over their anger because we punish them for it. But the reason why we punish them for it is that we assume they have control over it!
Again, I’m not saying this is a sensible way to go about your career plans… at least unless your chosen path is “stylite monk”... but there’s a difference to me between punishing someone and blaming them.
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by PaulThomas on Jun 12, 2008 12:44 PM PDT up reply actions 1 recs
Wow. You've never worked on Wall Street
by As Fan in the Bronx on Jun 12, 2008 12:55 PM PDT up reply actions 1 recs
LOL
+1
Is it prurient? I don’t know what to tell you. I think it’s odd and interesting. It’s part of life. @('.')@
by monkeyball on Jun 12, 2008 12:58 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
As someone who's been plagued in the past with a bad temper
I can vouch for self control as a learnable skill
I generally bemoan the profusion of Mr Sabermetric Sporks in the Scrabble ranks who don't know the meaning or usage of 50% of the words they use. -monkeyball
by JediLeroy on Jun 12, 2008 12:30 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
ditto that
Is it prurient? I don’t know what to tell you. I think it’s odd and interesting. It’s part of life. @('.')@
by monkeyball on Jun 12, 2008 12:35 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
with the caveat that ...
... some people (due to genetics [and I mean that in a Gregor Mendel way, not in a Charles Murray way] or environment/experience) face greater challenges to learning it and to being able to successfully act on having learned it.
Is it prurient? I don’t know what to tell you. I think it’s odd and interesting. It’s part of life. @('.')@
by monkeyball on Jun 12, 2008 12:43 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
+1
Your 2008 Athletics: It's Nothing Personal.
by PaulThomas on Jun 12, 2008 12:44 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
also +1
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by JediLeroy on Jun 12, 2008 12:45 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
I'm a uniter, not a divider!
Is it prurient? I don’t know what to tell you. I think it’s odd and interesting. It’s part of life. @('.')@
by monkeyball on Jun 12, 2008 12:46 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
exactly where this discussion
was leading my thinking.
Milton Bradley grew up in an environment that was obviously very “un-normal”. This doesn’t excuse someone, but it explains it. He also went to Long Beach Poly HS. While this might seem irrelevant, it really isn’t, because the environment of that place enhances anti-social behavior, if you have a predisposition for “unusual social behavior”.
Contrast that with Dusty Baker. He goes to Carmichael HS near Sacramento, and is the only, the one…black person in his school.
So, he gets elected class president.
I’d say that helped him gain the mental fortitude to pursue a baseball career in the face of opposition of his parents.
Meanwhile, back at LongBeach Poly, Milton verbally denounced any suggestion of his leadership on the baseball team.
I hope Milton eventually defeats his demons. Very soon. And I hope it doesn’t come at expense to himself.
"I never predict anything, and I never will." Paul Gascoigne, English footballer
by One won lost won on Jun 12, 2008 2:39 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Trust me. Being the only black in a whole school
is an environment, that screams unsocial behavior. You look around, and see no one like you. You try to fit in, by acting like everyone else, acting “white” so to speak. Then imagine after that experience, moving to Richmond, and attending Kennedy high, one of the most violent schools in the Bay area. Then you still don’t know how to act, because you have spent most of your like in white urban schools, where you were the only, or one of a handful of blacks, then go to a place that only has a handful of whites. You go from one extreme, not being accepted because you were of a different color, then not being accepted, because you now act like the people of a different color, while now living amongst the people of your color. I went from the only black kid, to the whitest black kid.
by theblackpearl on Jun 12, 2008 3:10 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
thanks for that comment
sounds like you made the most of both situations.
I didn’t go to Long Beach Poly, but we played them in basketball. I cannot imagine much has improved at that school, since all California schools are quite decrepit in so many ways.
"I never predict anything, and I never will." Paul Gascoigne, English footballer
by One won lost won on Jun 12, 2008 3:50 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
and he's in a position to get help with it
he has money and a huge team support network that wants him to control his temper. After all of these incidents I really do think he should be wise enough to say “Hey, this keeps happening, I need to get someone who can help me figure out how to keep it under control.” When he’s not going over the edge, he strikes me as being quite smart.
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by batgirl on Jun 12, 2008 12:51 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Seriously, I love Milty
I want so badly for him to keep everything under control
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by JediLeroy on Jun 12, 2008 12:52 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
I'm using "tragic hero" in the dramatic sense
Oedipus wasn’t much of a hero either. “Antihero” would really be a better term.
As for the first… I become truculent when I’m confronted with fundamentalist Bible-thumping. That is probably not going to change anytime soon.
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by PaulThomas on Jun 12, 2008 12:19 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
And you are no better than they are with that attitude.
Let Hamilton have his relationship with Jesus. Let him live his life based on that. Whether you agree or disagree with how he did it, he changed his life.
Milton has not. He’s the same guy he has always been, blaming everyone else for his problems. It’s never Milton’s fault; someone was always picking on him. True? Probably. But…daaaaamn, he’s an easy target right now. What’s the first rule of bullying? Never let the bully push your buttons. I think Bradley needs some professional help & I can’t for the life of me figure out why people are so quick to excuse his behavior instead of helping him see that.
So, bring on Bonds! Or, not... then, bring back Langerhans!! -One won lost one
by baseballgirl on Jun 12, 2008 12:25 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
I don't have a problem with Hamilton living his life
Did you see me posting angry rants about Hamilton’s conversion three years ago?
I have a problem with this kiss-ass media coverage that tells me that if I don’t play along, I’m a loser, or immoral, or a bad person. And I have a problem with people being assumed to be better than me just because they hold some particular spiritual belief.
Your 2008 Athletics: It's Nothing Personal.
by PaulThomas on Jun 12, 2008 12:30 PM PDT up reply actions 1 recs
I think you are taking this way too personally
People are saying that Hamilton is “better” than Bradley because he has turned his life around and doesn’t flip out at people and situations anymore.
No one has said that Hamilton is “better” than Bradley because he found religion. You are inferring that.
So, bring on Bonds! Or, not... then, bring back Langerhans!! -One won lost one
by baseballgirl on Jun 12, 2008 12:35 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
I just checked with God and God
likes Hamilton better than Milty. And for the record, God is a Pacific-Islander switch-hitting midget who tried heroin but never really took it a lot. So it’s hard to say where the bias would likely run.
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by Nico on Jun 12, 2008 1:02 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
the bias would likely run with a contact hitter at the plate
Is it prurient? I don’t know what to tell you. I think it’s odd and interesting. It’s part of life. @('.')@
by monkeyball on Jun 12, 2008 1:08 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
to prevent running on the bias
use those scissors with crinkly edges to cut the fabric and then double stitch the seams.
by Hot Cup Joe on Jun 12, 2008 3:11 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
to prevent drafting on the Bias ...
... screen all your prospects for coke use.
(“What are ‘pinking shears’?”)
Is it prurient? I don’t know what to tell you. I think it’s odd and interesting. It’s part of life. @('.')@
by monkeyball on Jun 12, 2008 6:15 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Milton, Jesus, racism ... now Oedipus?
I’ll revise #4 above: 800 comments at least.
All I can say about your truculence is that if you hope to graduate from argument to persuasion at some point, belittlement is not likely to help your cause.
I know you don’t care whether or not you insult anyone, because you feel insulted yourself, there’s a big important principle at stake, no one is going to change their mind no matter how nice you are, and anyway people shouldn’t get upset, it’s just a blog, you’re speaking in a dispassionate monotone, etc.
But geez. It just wasn’t necessary. It didn’t serve any purpose. It was gratuitous. And it increased the chances of this devolving into a pointless yelling match by about a thousand percent.
by 74mk on Jun 12, 2008 12:47 PM PDT up reply actions 1 recs
I feel marginalized by your invocation of statistics there
Is it prurient? I don’t know what to tell you. I think it’s odd and interesting. It’s part of life. @('.')@
by monkeyball on Jun 12, 2008 12:59 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
I feel margarinized by the fact
that you haven’t mentioned butter.
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by Nico on Jun 12, 2008 1:03 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
I Can't Believe It's Not Heroin!
Is it prurient? I don’t know what to tell you. I think it’s odd and interesting. It’s part of life. @('.')@
by monkeyball on Jun 12, 2008 1:09 PM PDT up reply actions 1 recs
Up to 200 now...
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by PaulThomas on Jun 12, 2008 1:37 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
It's a shame we started seeing eye to eye
Our rapid pace has declined quickly. Dang regression to the civility.
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by JediLeroy on Jun 12, 2008 1:42 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Wow, I miss a few hours of the internets and it explodes!
PT, I was speaking about Bradley without even knowing Hamilton’s story. I was just speaking directly to Bradley seemingly always complaining, or getting mad, or blaming others for everything that goes wrong, etc. I wish him all the luck in the world and sincerely hope he succeeds. He’s playing great and is healthy, why complain about being mistreated when you know the media will make a big deal about it? It’s never worked before. I guess he just can’t help being the victim all the time. It’s just an observation, I don’t want to pretend to know his every thought.
I also thought I would chime in about Matthew 18:9. Jesus was speaking metaphorically in that verse. He was telling them to get rid of the things that can cause them to fall/sin b/c it’s better to not have it in Heaven than have it hell.
Just like in Matthew 19:24 “And again I say unto you, It is easier for a camel to go through the eye of a needle, than for a rich man to enter into the kingdom of God.” Obviously a camel can’t fit through the eye of a needle, Jesus is being extravagant to make a point. A rich man can easily place his money above everything else, most notably in the Bible Jesus/God, which will keep you out of heaven.
You might already know all of that or don’t care (which is your prerogative) but I wanted to jump at the chance to sound smart!
and I agree with SwampyD, I love all you guys (and gals). AN is sooo cool ; -)
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by micdog2001 on Jun 12, 2008 6:03 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
I do... that's exactly the point I was trying to make
Hamilton feels his relationship with his agent is expendable because it is somehow threatening his faith, or contrary to instructions from God, or whatever. The phrase works equally well regardless of whether the “possession” is actual chattel or just a relationship.
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by PaulThomas on Jun 13, 2008 12:27 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Fair enough...
....but are you seriously suggesting that a good way to endear yourself to the baseball world is to a) publically attack an umpire and b) run up the stairs like a crazy person to take on someone who made an unfair comment about you?
Public figures have to grow a pretty thick skin & this is something that Milton has never learned.
So, bring on Bonds! Or, not... then, bring back Langerhans!! -One won lost one
by baseballgirl on Jun 12, 2008 11:43 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
I'm not saying that what he did was wise
I’m saying that what he did was understandable.
I have a very similar personality to Bradley, I guess. Introverted, generally easygoing (if a bit sarcastic), but when I’m angry I really lose it. Easy to tease, or get a rise out of. And periodically accumulated small frustrations will catch up with me and cause me to do something that seems totally out of proportion.
Now, I certainly hope that that wouldn’t cause me to attack someone (and I’d deserve what I got if I did, just as he deserved the oppobrium for the domestic violence thing), and it hasn’t, but I can put myself in his position and what he does makes emotional sense to me.
I can’t muster the contempt, I just can’t. He’s not a bad person. Just not very well suited psychologically for his profession.
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by PaulThomas on Jun 12, 2008 12:09 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
And periodically accumulated small frustrations will catch up with me and cause me to do something that seems totally out of proportion.
I occasionally have a bad temper. But it’s nobody’s fault but my own that I lose it. You always have a choice in how you react.
That being said, I’m sure Milton gets a worse rap than he deserves. He’s probably got a good heart and wants to do things right. But for jeebus’ sake, the guy needs to take some freaking responsibility for his own actions. It’s always somebody else’s fault.
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by JediLeroy on Jun 12, 2008 12:13 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Agree so much.
One time thing, sure, give Milton the benefit of the doubt. But it’s happened AT LEAST 10 times that we know of, and with like 5 different teams. Every single time, Milton says, “It’s not me, it’s them”...how long does that excuse work? How long can you continue to lose friends, saying “Oh, they were a bad friend” before you have to stop and look at yourself. Maybe if everyone in your life is causing you a problem, then YOU might be the problem?
So, bring on Bonds! Or, not... then, bring back Langerhans!! -One won lost one
by baseballgirl on Jun 12, 2008 12:40 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
"one, he found Jesus, praise the Lawd"
How ‘bout Josh taking responsibility for his past transgressions? Milton: 1) acts like a baby, 2) blames everyone else for his problems.
"JOAN! Are you watching Bombast? Did you see Lack Bust drop that fly call?"
by Jennifer on Jun 12, 2008 11:46 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
+1
I can’t believe people are so antagonistic towards something that geniunely has helped someone change. Whether you love or loathe Christianity or are just indifferent, it has seemingly helped Hamilton make some huge changes in his life.
I generally bemoan the profusion of Mr Sabermetric Sporks in the Scrabble ranks who don't know the meaning or usage of 50% of the words they use. -monkeyball
by JediLeroy on Jun 12, 2008 12:09 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
I don't give a crap about what "saved" Josh Hamilton
I do give a crap when Josh Hamilton, and the complicit sports media, tries to shove his “solution” down my throat.
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by PaulThomas on Jun 12, 2008 12:15 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Wow
Would you be so upset if he found some other form of enlightenment, and the media talked about that? What if he found statistics, and they helped him change his life?
Bottom line: he changed his life. Like you say, it doesn’t really matter through what. It’s a good story. And Christianity just happens to be part of the story.
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by JediLeroy on Jun 12, 2008 12:25 PM PDT up reply actions 1 recs
+1
So, bring on Bonds! Or, not... then, bring back Langerhans!! -One won lost one
by baseballgirl on Jun 12, 2008 12:32 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Probably not
but then again, I don’t feel marginalized and silenced by statistics.
There probably are people who do… that explains a lot, actually…
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by PaulThomas on Jun 12, 2008 12:36 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
I’m gonna start a church of Statistical Christianity, and cheese off everyone
Is it prurient? I don’t know what to tell you. I think it’s odd and interesting. It’s part of life. @('.')@
by monkeyball on Jun 12, 2008 12:50 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Church of Christ, Statistician?
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by PaulThomas on Jun 12, 2008 12:52 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Statanic?
I generally bemoan the profusion of Mr Sabermetric Sporks in the Scrabble ranks who don't know the meaning or usage of 50% of the words they use. -monkeyball
by JediLeroy on Jun 12, 2008 12:53 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Is it prurient? I don’t know what to tell you. I think it’s odd and interesting. It’s part of life. @('.')@
by monkeyball on Jun 12, 2008 12:54 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
You'll have to change the names to madmongoose now
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by JediLeroy on Jun 12, 2008 12:56 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
"I found statistics and it saved me -
In fact I lead the league in saves! Before I found statistics my VORP was 3.0 and now it’s 4.2!!! Puh-rayze the median!!!!!!!”
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by Nico on Jun 12, 2008 1:05 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
marginalized and silenced?
Okay, I’ll accept that you feel marginalized and silenced by Christianity. So you want to silence talk of Christianty. Am I misinterpreting this double-standard?
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by JediLeroy on Jun 12, 2008 12:50 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
I don't want to silence it...
just, jeez, lay off the hagiography a little, you know? Just report the facts. He was a drug addict, he converted to fundamentalist Christianity, he stopped using, he is now good at baseball again. That’s enough.
And don’t give him a pass on things like “being a bigot.”
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by PaulThomas on Jun 12, 2008 12:56 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
The stories definitely get a little too syrupy sometimes
And I could see people interpreting that as an endorsement of Christianity on part of the media. I agree that they should focus more on the change and less on the religious aspect of the change.
Hamilton could very well be a bigot. I’m honestly not entirely sure of his character—I just don’t know enough about him to make judgements. He could just be a jerk that no longer uses drugs. It’s great that he’s back and playing well, though. Shame that he’s playing for Texas.
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by JediLeroy on Jun 12, 2008 1:02 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
If he really was a bigot, wouldn't Beane have acquired him?
Is it prurient? I don’t know what to tell you. I think it’s odd and interesting. It’s part of life. @('.')@
by monkeyball on Jun 12, 2008 1:10 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
He's a WHITE bigot
Even better.
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by PaulThomas on Jun 12, 2008 1:39 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Does his bigotry stem from dumping his former agent for his shiny new Christian one?
The only reason I ask is ‘cuz for a guy who has grabbed onto religion so tightly as his way of coping with addiction, I can see a thought process where he feels he needs to surround himself with people who are as committed as he is, just to make sure he stays on the straight and narrow.
I’m not saying what he did is commendable, I’m just questioning whether it was motivated by “I need people who are in the same boat as me” rather than “I hate non-Christians.”
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by Joey C. on Jun 12, 2008 1:27 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Maybe so
I can’t speak to his motivations.
It was still an unnecessarily cruel and damaging thing to do to a guy who, by all accounts, did not deserve it at all.
As with Milton’s domestic abuse, while I (may) understand the thought process, I still condemn the action.
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by PaulThomas on Jun 12, 2008 1:43 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
And that is a completely fair and non-biased argument.
It certainly doesn’t appear very ‘Christian’ (to coin a phrase) of him in his situation to pull that on someone who was there for him at rock bottom. Though Joey has a point…sometimes when you come out from the deep, dark hole, you need nor want no reminders of people who were around you when you were at your lowest. “Fresh start” may indeed explain his actions.
I think the Hamilton story is a great one…sorry, PT, but I love the stories of redemption, and second chances. I wish Milton had a similar one, and I think that was the point of the broadcaster’s comments.
But life is not a one-cure-fits-all sort of affair, and I think we can celebrate success without demeaning others’ points of view in that.
So, bring on Bonds! Or, not... then, bring back Langerhans!! -One won lost one
by baseballgirl on Jun 12, 2008 2:04 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
I'm not sure it is un-Christian, unfortunately,
which is part of my issue here, but it is certainly taking Matthew 18:9 to a bit of an extreme conclusion…
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by PaulThomas on Jun 12, 2008 2:30 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Is it? (Not very Christian, I mean.)
Well, it’s certainly taking Matthew 18:9 to a bit of an extreme conclusion…
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by PaulThomas on Jun 12, 2008 2:31 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
No one is saying that should be your solution!
it worked for him; it worked for others, and that’s great. If you find a better way, that’s awesome.
The POINT is…Bradley hasn’t found ANY way. That’s what’s in question. And your bias in this situation is definitely coloring your view.
So, bring on Bonds! Or, not... then, bring back Langerhans!! -One won lost one
by baseballgirl on Jun 12, 2008 12:27 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
And FWIW...
...it’s not right that you feel marginalized and silenced, either. You have just as much right to your feelings/opinions/beliefs as someone who shares Hamilton’s.
So, bring on Bonds! Or, not... then, bring back Langerhans!! -One won lost one
by baseballgirl on Jun 12, 2008 12:42 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
we are getting awfully deep.
i love you guys, all you guys.
"The two of them deserve each other. One's a born liar, the other's convicted."
by SwampyD on Jun 12, 2008 12:44 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
oh, c'mon
The mainstream sporting media is far, far, far more invested in shoving the Red Sox, Cubs, and Yankees down your throat.
Is it prurient? I don’t know what to tell you. I think it’s odd and interesting. It’s part of life. @('.')@
by monkeyball on Jun 12, 2008 12:44 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Does sort of put things in perspective, dunnit.
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by PaulThomas on Jun 12, 2008 12:47 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
unless ...
< GASP! >
It IS true!!!
Is it prurient? I don’t know what to tell you. I think it’s odd and interesting. It’s part of life. @('.')@
by monkeyball on Jun 12, 2008 12:52 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Nah ... throws like Mary.
The meaning of life is not so much 'found,' as it is 'made.' --Opus
by The Dogfather on Jun 12, 2008 1:27 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Nico is probably happy the Cubs are good, they are always talking
about that damn Goat.
by theblackpearl on Jun 12, 2008 12:47 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Manger scenes are hawt.
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by Nico on Jun 12, 2008 1:06 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Macha-on-Dusty action?
Is it prurient? I don’t know what to tell you. I think it’s odd and interesting. It’s part of life. @('.')@
by monkeyball on Jun 12, 2008 1:10 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
+1
gotta agree with this.
“It must be the supernatural at work here! ” bleah.
Why are sports announcers even bothering with this??
The danger of these “un-solicited commentaries” (well, beside enraging certain folk) is that they perpetuate “truths” that are untrue.
For instance, years ago, there was a mythology created along these lines:
“On SuperBowl Sunday, the police get more calls for domestic violence than any other day of the year!!”
I think this idea was started by someone with an axe to grind (let your speculation take flight) but the worst part was, the media, without investigating, took it to heart, and it was repeated and perpetuated over the years. Heck, I repeated it, several times…”on authority” of the news media, which I unfortunately thought was “responsible”....(ah, youth!)
The strange idea that was a classic example of “post hoc ergo propter hoc” from this myth was the explanation that the man of the house, drinking, seeing the END OF THE FOOTBALL SEASON (gee, he had no idea this was the last game!) gets violent because there will be no football on TV next week (??!!) and takes it out on the spouse.
Any statistics? No
Any police authorities saying it? No.
But the media clung to this myth, and repeated it, over and over….
It finally came to light, years and years later, that this was a total fabrication. By media people. Without investigation.
IT’S NOT THEIR BUSINESS to repeat unfounded “folklore”, and it’s INCORRECT for them to say anything about WHAT or WHAT DID NOT “save” Hamilton. He isn’t dead yet…it could be “Steve Howe redux” for all we know.
"I never predict anything, and I never will." Paul Gascoigne, English footballer
by One won lost won on Jun 12, 2008 3:04 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Gotta disagree with this
Isn’t Hamilton himself attributing his change to his God?
What is the “truth” that you say is untrue?
Let me know if I’ve misinterpreted your post.
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by JediLeroy on Jun 12, 2008 3:12 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
You know, it's funny
I read that, and I really have no problems with it. It’s just him telling his story. Simple, direct, modest. It’s what he thinks happened to him.
Which leads me to conclude: what bugs me is not the fact that someone thinks Jesus saved them from addiction (that’s just an opinion, even if it’s one I don’t share), it’s the sanctimonious, self-righteous tone that the pundits invariably lapse into when explicating that opinion. And the favoritism.
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by PaulThomas on Jun 12, 2008 3:45 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
I am commenting
about the commentators. If Hamilton is interviewed, and he wants to say “I owe it all to my grandmother!” or “Jesus came to me and personally saved me.” I don’t really have a problem. The player owns those remarks. I am more at odds with the superfluous actions of commentators, because a story aligns with their own biases and desires, and try to spin it as “reporting the facts of the story”.
I think the conversation is a little misaligned here. Ah, the internet …phizzzzzzzzzz
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by One won lost won on Jun 12, 2008 3:45 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Ah, got it.
I guess that’s proof that it’s better to ask for clarification than assume you inferred the correct meaning.
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by JediLeroy on Jun 12, 2008 4:42 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
+1000
So, bring on Bonds! Or, not... then, bring back Langerhans!! -One won lost one
by baseballgirl on Jun 12, 2008 12:32 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Just caught a snippet of the broadcast on "Outside the Lines"
All the dude said in the clip I heard was that Milton Bradley clearly can’t control himself. Whiiiiiiich is kinda what we’ve been saying the whole time in this thread.
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by Joey C. on Jun 12, 2008 12:25 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
{Milton runs up 4 flights of stairs onto the Internet}
Is it prurient? I don’t know what to tell you. I think it’s odd and interesting. It’s part of life. @('.')@
by monkeyball on Jun 12, 2008 12:37 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Throwback day on WGN
Black and White broadcast and everything. Pretty cool.
Might as well Jump! - Van Halen
by sprtsnwyn on Jun 12, 2008 11:56 AM PDT reply actions 0 recs
Well they stopped the black and white broadcast
Not nearly as cool now. Just another Cubs game. Like everyday on ESPN.
Might as well Jump! - Van Halen
by sprtsnwyn on Jun 12, 2008 12:03 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
I think Milton could use a visit from Bobby Jindal
Is it prurient? I don’t know what to tell you. I think it’s odd and interesting. It’s part of life. @('.')@
by monkeyball on Jun 12, 2008 1:15 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
What am I missing with the Bobby Jindal references?
by As Fan in the Bronx on Jun 12, 2008 2:48 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Exorcise his demons, perhaps?
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by JediLeroy on Jun 12, 2008 3:05 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Oh, come on... haven't we had enough?
Calling Liberals demons is going a bit too far, even for me
by As Fan in the Bronx on Jun 12, 2008 3:10 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Excuse me?
I have no idea what you’re talking about. Bobby Jindal supposedly had a face to face encounter with a demon, which he subsequently allegedly exorcised. When did I call liberals demons?
I generally bemoan the profusion of Mr Sabermetric Sporks in the Scrabble ranks who don't know the meaning or usage of 50% of the words they use. -monkeyball
by JediLeroy on Jun 12, 2008 3:17 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Uhmmm
Apparently the sarcasm tag didn’t work
by As Fan in the Bronx on Jun 12, 2008 3:22 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Ah, the internets and their confoundery
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by JediLeroy on Jun 12, 2008 3:26 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Milton Bradley is infected with liberals...?
I still don’t get this, even with sarcasm tags.
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by PaulThomas on Jun 12, 2008 3:46 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
http://tpmelectioncentral.talkingpointsmemo.com/2008/06/bobby_jindals_dance_with_the_d.php
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by mikeA on Jun 12, 2008 3:09 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Talking Points?
Holy crap… you couldn’t find a MoveOn reference as an unbiased source? I’m going to start quoting World Net Daily as an authoritative source
by As Fan in the Bronx on Jun 12, 2008 3:13 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Well, I don't have any opinion on that site, as a non-reader of it...
but they’re just quoting from an article he wrote, so unless you think they just made it up, which would be pretty disprovable….
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by mikeA on Jun 12, 2008 3:25 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
The bottom line is, Milton should get help
He’s obviously depressed, and should get some counseling to deal with this and stop blaming everybody else for his actions. There really is no excuse at this point, what with all of his resources and support. And Josh Hamilton shouldn’t have dumped his agent. I didn’t like it when Robin Williams dumped his wife when he got famous or Jim Carrey, and I think this is the same thing. Stick with those who stuck with you. Oh well. Please get help, Milty. We’re all pulling for you!
by A'sfansince1970 on Jun 12, 2008 1:16 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
G-O!
The meaning of life is not so much 'found,' as it is 'made.' --Opus
by The Dogfather on Jun 12, 2008 2:17 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
This was a post-game thread on one point wasn't it?
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by micdog2001 on Jun 12, 2008 6:05 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
: -)
;-)
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;- ) :- ) :-O : -> : -] : -}
by micdog2001 on Jun 12, 2008 6:06 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
this post-game thread is like a box of chocolates
Is it prurient? I don’t know what to tell you. I think it’s odd and interesting. It’s part of life. @('.')@
by monkeyball on Jun 12, 2008 6:17 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
I see what you did there, ha ha : -) ( i hate/dislike LOL)
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by micdog2001 on Jun 12, 2008 6:36 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs

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