Tide is turning on A's trades -- maybe Beane's not a genious
by BlueMoon on Jun 10, 2008 6:02 AM PDT
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With the A's hurting for power bats the A's could use Swisher now. G. Gonzalez is turning out to be only average at AAA -- maybe the reason he's been traded so many times isn't that he's so good, but possibly that he's flawed. The other dude Faustio whatever is done with ligament replacement (save the spelling homework comments). And now that leaves us with R. Sweeney who seems like a decent player who's on the DL already, but I'd rather have Swisher's personality and power. Give Beane a "D"on that trade.
The pitchers the A's got for Haren are starting to fade. It takes a special pitcher to perform well with minimal run support game after game. It's starting wear down the two young guys. Haren was better prepared to throw shut-outs. Carlos Gonzalez looks great in a uniform. If you like a bunch of doubles and a .200 average he's your boy. He fits right in with Barton, but with more pop. Good luck on the other kids AZ threw the A's. Time will tell how this deal pans out -- so far it's a "C-" and dropping.
You've got to like the ATL. trade. The Braves get an older guy (Kotsay) who's on the DL and the A's get a young pitcher (Devine) who's on the DL. Broken down outfielders with great personality and no power are a dime a dozen so this deal gets a "B" .
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Your conclusions seem a tad premature
Swisher has all of 8 HRs. He too stood at a mighty .200 just a week ago, and his average now stands at a mind-boggling .228.
I say we give Gonzalez, Eveland and Smith another two or three games before declaring them busts.
Three awesome posts in a row. I love it.
"The two of them deserve each other. One's a born liar, the other's convicted."
Cardinuls fan!
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by kaweahkaweah on Jun 10, 2008 10:57 AM PDT up reply actions
What a fair weather fan.
9 prospects, not 9 MLB ready prospects. I think you need to choose a new team, the Cubs, Yankees and Red Sox are always looking for “buy me a new team now” Veruca Salt type fan. I want my 2 minutes back.
Hot dogs, get your hot dogs.
Fare whether fann?
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by kaweahkaweah on Jun 10, 2008 8:31 AM PDT up reply actions
A Veruca Salt type fan?
Are you saying BlueMoon is Drop Dead Gorgeous?
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by thejd44 on Jun 10, 2008 11:09 AM PDT up reply actions
I'd say he/she is pretty average looking ... kind of blends in with the crowd ...
not a face you would remember, you know?
"It's for your own good. Big strong Devo knows whats best for Poppy" -- Mossback
Wow...
Wow.
Logic clearly isn’t going to apply here, so I won’t bother wasting some.
Your 2008 Athletics: It's Nothing Personal.
please please please?
"The two of them deserve each other. One's a born liar, the other's convicted."
Keep your day job...
...your future in baseball analysis is dim.
You can't sit on a lead and run a few plays into the line and just kill the clock. You've got to throw the ball over the goddamn plate and give the other man his chance. That's why baseball is the greatest game of them all. ~Earl Weaver
"Evidently, a large number of people said, 'We really need more vermin at the ballpark, Artie.'" - Nick (AN), 10/7/07
All three of those make me sad.
"God doesn't pay attention to your cute little hypotheticals." -- Jeff from LL
BlueMoon
Actually look at Ryan Sweeney’s stats versus Swisher’s stats. Sweeney is hitting for a higher average, OBP and slugging. I’ll also take his defense over Swisher’s any day of the week. If you want personality around the team rather than better performance, maybe we should suit up Stomper? As for Gio Gonzalez and Fausto, we’re going to wait on them because there is no need to rush them.
And the Haren trade looks like one of Beane’s better deals almost every day.
by Tyler Bleszinski on Jun 10, 2008 8:18 AM PDT reply actions
And don't forget the trade that brought Haren here.
And Barton… and..
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rofl
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... I see you standing alone … without no love from this site … for the impatience you’ve shown …
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That's what she said
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by Englishmajor on Jun 10, 2008 9:44 AM PDT up reply actions
You may be right. Just go back and look at his first two fanposts
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No
Just more of the same
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by OptimistPrime on Jun 10, 2008 10:37 AM PDT up reply actions
ah yes, how fondly I remember
The White Andre Eithier comment…...wtf
"The two of them deserve each other. One's a born liar, the other's convicted."
The sad thing is
that there is absolutely no indication that he is joking around. I wish he were, to save the humiliation. R. Sweeney on the DL already? Stoopid. Just playne nutz. He fowled a bawl off his fout. Hardenly injury prone. Too terade one guy and get three starting playerz and one setz a mondern day recerd with xtra baze hits in his first 7 at bats….yeah, billy is no genios. and you my ferend are
a. no spelling bee contender
b. true fan
but you are
a. mildly entertaining
b. fodder for board posters on a tuesday before we crush the spankees
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by OptimistPrime on Jun 10, 2008 10:34 AM PDT up reply actions
"Hardenly injury prone" IS NOT FUNNY!!!!!
"It's for your own good. Big strong Devo knows whats best for Poppy" -- Mossback
Talk about misspelled miss spellings
Thanks Devo four pionting that owt! Yur rite! That isnot funny! mibad
2008 Oakland Athletics...more than meets the eye!
by OptimistPrime on Jun 10, 2008 10:49 AM PDT up reply actions
The Fact that he hasn't defended himself
when all these people are just tearing up his opinion tells me he’s either joking or just trying to get a reaction out of people, the opinion has been popped…lets move on
by GusanoQuemador on Jun 10, 2008 11:55 AM PDT up reply actions
I don't know
I mean, no one has really rebutted his points, they’ve just mocked them incessantly.
It’s hard to really defend yourself from mockery, particularly (as in this case) when it’s well-deserved.
Your 2008 Athletics: It's Nothing Personal.
Hey PT
Seriously though, are you serious?
I think everyone is having a little frivolity at his expense, but he did bring it upon himself. Whether it is real or false, there is not much to debate. Haren is having a great start and the guys we got for him have made an impact. Before a couple of pedestrian starts Eveland Kneivel was lights out, Smith equally so, CarGon in 11 days has shown flashes of the brililance and justified the designation as the centerpiece of the trade. The other two trades yielded some good, promising pitching and Mini-Sweeney who has looked like a potential daily starter. So I would think that even the most casual observer could debunk this posting.
And if this is what it takes to bring out the creative juices that ensued, I say bring it on! One more “fail” clip and I will get fired for excessive laughing on the job!
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by OptimistPrime on Jun 10, 2008 4:53 PM PDT up reply actions
Quite serious
The only really effective way to rebut insanity is through mockery. You can’t engage it in a rational debate, because it’s not rational to begin with.
During my fifth (and final) year of debate (this was in college), we ran a performance-based affirmative that made fun of nuclear weapons, and argued that because people can’t rationally conceive of things like “a billion deaths,” the only way to counteract the philosophy of nuclear weapons is through mockery…
Your 2008 Athletics: It's Nothing Personal.
You are my blog god
I believe the term is “man crush”? You are one of my favorite bloggers.
The voice of reason in a sea of stupidity
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by OptimistPrime on Jun 10, 2008 5:47 PM PDT up reply actions
This post is as bad
as that MLB hat commercial where all the Japanese fans think a short chubby white guy is David Ortiz b/c he’s wearing a Sox hat. Just horrible!
You not big paaaapi ...
"It's for your own good. Big strong Devo knows whats best for Poppy" -- Mossback
oh, come on...
you know all Americans look alike!
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by Gaijin_Suketto on Jun 10, 2008 4:39 PM PDT up reply actions
That these three trades, letting MLB proven players go for prospects ...
already have earned a passing grade from a skeptical fan speaks volumes about Billy Beane’s genius.
"It's for your own good. Big strong Devo knows whats best for Poppy" -- Mossback
Ooookay, because you can accurately judge a trade...
...two months into the season.
I don’t think you have any idea what you’re talking about.
Move along.
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Too soon to tell
It would be foolish to declare the trade a success after one month of play and just as foolish to declare it a flop after two months. It will be years before we can properly evaluate these trades.
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and one more
"It's not my fault your team's so shitty." -Steve Friend, head coach, Chabot College, to Laney College's head coach, who asked why we scored so many runs after we beat Laney 30-3 in 2006
Remember when guys like this were all like...
...”OMG! Eric Byrnes is hitting .375! Billy Beane is teh suck for letting him go!”
.219 avg. Holla.
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Whats worse
if Swish were still with the Green and Gold he would harping on is how low his average is at this point in the year.
I love this fanpost
And all the FAIL pictures.
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by thejd44 on Jun 10, 2008 11:13 AM PDT reply actions
tehy are genious!!!1
"It's not my fault your team's so shitty." -Steve Friend, head coach, Chabot College, to Laney College's head coach, who asked why we scored so many runs after we beat Laney 30-3 in 2006
Damn it
The second I read this I was hoping for some PaulThomas beatdown, but he’s getting soft. J/K big guy!
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Damn, PT -- you've got a fanboy following.
PT and the Cruisers?
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by The Dogfather on Jun 11, 2008 12:37 PM PDT up reply actions
Duuuude...
I’d have been happy with the first one.
You can't sit on a lead and run a few plays into the line and just kill the clock. You've got to throw the ball over the goddamn plate and give the other man his chance. That's why baseball is the greatest game of them all. ~Earl Weaver
Pleese, pleese, bluemoon
don’t stop posting, this is hillaryous! I need a good laugh every once in a while.
But in all seriousness, after seeing Swisher’s 2 HRs, I was thinking to myself that some fool was going to post something ridiculous like this, and sure enough, YOU did..
I like how just the other day...
...there was speculation Swisher was about to be benched.
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And Blue Moon Odom
was as gutsy and clutch as they come … he would be sad.
I needed a team so I wouldn’t turn into one of the eighty million pink hat-wearing Bud Light-drinking mulleted idiots at Fenway.
Brings bakc Zeeto!
“I gaves up this many runz!”
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"Tit Fark"?
That’s what it looks like behind his left hand. LOL!
You can't sit on a lead and run a few plays into the line and just kill the clock. You've got to throw the ball over the goddamn plate and give the other man his chance. That's why baseball is the greatest game of them all. ~Earl Weaver
Wow. I am truely impressed by the number of responses.
However, quality and intelligence was not impressive at all. As expected, and noted in my original post, nearly all the responses are aimed at a spelling mistake. Only a few of the response actually focussed on the actual subject matter.
The point of the post, besides getting a reaction, was to see if everybody on this A’s lovefest blog could be objective. Maybe the deals work out in time, but it’s not necessarily kicking ass right now. Wacking off to every move Beane makes doesn’t make you the ultimate A’s fan. It should be ok to express an opinion even if it isn’t popular. And it should sure as hell be ok to spell a few words wrong on a sports blog.
You can fix the spelling.
Edit your post.
Oh and you call this a lovefest but if you read the blog consistently …you will find that people are hyper-critical. It’s only a lovefest when things are going well or when Nico discusses his goat.
I'm sorry ...
but your post offered no insight or worthwhile thought. The comparisons you made were silly and the standards you judged the trades on were ridiculous. I actually tried to give you a reasonable response but if this is the kind of attitude you’re bringing, whatever, I’ll just join the mocking you party:
"It's for your own good. Big strong Devo knows whats best for Poppy" -- Mossback
Garbage in, garbage out.
Your ridiculous assertions don’t deserve a well thought out response.
"He's a misfit. He gets along with everyone." - Reggie Jackson, describing Joe Rudi
Uh.. you misspelled a word in your subject line.
Shocker.
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Haren trade good, Swisher trade bad.
I’ve said that from the beginning, I’ll say it till I, I don’t know, die or stop being an A’s fan, whichever comes first.
the city dumps fill
the junkyards fill
the madhouses fill
the hospitals fill
the graveyards fill
nothing else
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