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DLD 5/29: Monkeys and robots will team up to destroy humans

When you think of monkey-robot hybrids, you usually think of cute little creatures like this:

Chapit-domestic-bot_medium

via www.gadgets-weblog.com

 

No longer.

Monkeys with sensors implanted in their brains have learned to control a robot arm with their thoughts, using it to feed themselves with fruit and marshmallows the tattered remains of the scientists foolish enough to embark on this research.

More details on the website of the academic journal Nature .

The initial training period was assisted by corrective signals generated by the BMI control program, but the monkeys quickly learned how to generate the brain activity that would produce the desired robot motions without any assistance.

Without any assitance.  But don't worry, I'm sure there's no possibility of this going awry, since we won't equip the monkey-robots with anything dangerous.

Using grids of fine electrodes implanted in the primary motor cortex of monkeys, they trained the animals to generate patterns of brain activity to control an anthropomorphic robot arm that had a shoulder joint, an elbow joint and a claw-like gripper 'hand'.

Except a claw-like gripper.  It's like a bunch of neuroscientists sniffed solvent while watching The Terminator and Planet of the Apes.

Here is a schematic of the robot-monkey hybrids that will soon become our overlords.

Nature06996-f1

via www.nature.com

That monkey-robot hybrid looks seriously pissed.

For those of you at academic institutions, the full text can found here.

 

 

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Monkeys with sensors implanted in their brains have learned to control a robot arm with their thoughts, using it to feed themselves with fruit and marshmallows the tattered remains of the scientists foolish enough to embark on this research.

stat-addled alien overlord

by salb918 on May 29, 2008 7:47 AM PDT reply actions  

why don't you edit it above?

A's v Giants "is kind of like the difference between going to see the Ramones and going to see the Bee Gees. A's fans will go see the Ramones." -BB 07/27/05

by xbhaskarx on May 29, 2008 9:17 AM PDT up reply actions  

This is seriously pissing me off.

Who the hell decided that the word “plasma” would have two separate meanings in science? I’m searching for XYZ and PLASMA and I keep getting a bunch of crap about blood. Damn it.

stat-addled alien overlord

by salb918 on May 29, 2008 8:07 AM PDT reply actions  

I like to answer rhetorical questions.

The answer is Irving Langmuir.

formerly known as mdl

by iglew on May 29, 2008 11:28 PM PDT up reply actions  

A surface scientist!

I should have known!

stat-addled alien overlord

by salb918 on May 30, 2008 5:24 AM PDT up reply actions  

Crosby on the radio today

BoCro is going to be on KNBR at 8:30 this morning. Hopefully he will put those two cretins who host the morning show in their place.

"Evidently, a large number of people said, 'We really need more vermin at the ballpark, Artie.'" - Nick (AN), 10/7/07

by doctorK on May 29, 2008 8:11 AM PDT reply actions  

At this point, however,

experts have been unable to figure out which is which.

by Hot Cup Joe on May 29, 2008 8:31 AM PDT up reply actions  

does everything take a few years to get to the midwest?

A's v Giants "is kind of like the difference between going to see the Ramones and going to see the Bee Gees. A's fans will go see the Ramones." -BB 07/27/05

by xbhaskarx on May 29, 2008 9:18 AM PDT up reply actions  

Gio Gonzalez last night had a good game

perhaps this will indicate a turnaround?

Gio pitched 5 innings, no runs, 2 hits, 2 walks, 7 K’s

by Zonis on May 29, 2008 8:35 AM PDT reply actions  

I thought they already took FDLS' kids away from the compound...

...or am I transposing a letter here?

"You have to have a catcher or you'll have all passed balls."- Casey Stengel

by Gaijin_Suketto on May 29, 2008 11:09 AM PDT up reply actions  

about a month to 6 weeks...

and how many babies have YOU eaten today?

"You have to have a catcher or you'll have all passed balls."- Casey Stengel

by Gaijin_Suketto on May 29, 2008 11:26 AM PDT up reply actions  

You can get yourself clean, You can have a good meal, You can do whatever you feel

Jeff Pearlman’s at his best when he doesn’t, you know, write, so I heartily recommend his Oral History (ahem) of the song Y.M.C.A. Through interviews with band members, the cultural cognoscenti, and a variety of sports figures we trace the evolution of the song from secret gay anthem to disco hit to ballpark standard, and we learn that many people, still, have no idea there’s a gay message contained in the Village People classic.

Former Yankee part-owner Joseph Molloy: "Y.M.C.A.” is about homosexuality? I had no idea until this very moment. Wow! Well, it’s a great song that makes people feel good. That’s what’s important."

Wally the Warthog, Winston-Salem mascot: "I’m the only mascot I know who does the whole Y-M-C-A hand gesture thing while standing on his head. As soon as the first beats come out of the speakers, everyone in the stands is asking, “Where’s Wally? Where’s that wild Wally?” Not sure what you mean about it being a gay song…. I know the Y is a healthy place to exercise."

And best of all, from those golden days on 1996, when we’d sit lazily in the afternoon stands watching ballgames unfold in front of the cranes hammers and concrete which would become the abomination known as Mount Davis:

David Rinetti (vice president of stadium operations, Oakland A’s): We wanted to do something cool to make the most of a terrible time. So we dressed two guys up as construction workers and sent them out to the construction site. Then we’d have two of our security guards go out there and pretend to tell them to stop making so much noise. Everyone [in the crowd] believed it—then “Y.M.C.A.” would come on and the four of them would break out into dance. One of our security guards was a guy named Icebox who played in the local roller-derby league. He was a huge man, and when he danced…

Robert “Icebox” Smith (Oakland Coliseum security guard): I tore that place up. The A’s weren’t so hot that year, but we brought that house down every single night. It was magical. We were on ESPN for weeks. It was a gay song?


There is an A in Whimsy.

by FreeSeatUpgrade on May 29, 2008 9:05 AM PDT reply actions  

Best time I ever had at Candlestick Park

was the year the Giants had the Village People performing live as part of Until There’s A Cure Day. I didn’t live in the Bay Area during the worst of the AIDS epidemic, and I didn’t really feel the emotional impact of the Giants sponsoring the event until then. It is a strange thing to see people crying AND dancing to the Village People at the same time.

Don't blame me, I voted for Ice Cream

by Englishmajor on May 29, 2008 9:15 AM PDT up reply actions  

sigline!

I'm handy, but I've never built anything of consequence. @('.')@

by monkeyball on May 29, 2008 9:21 AM PDT up reply actions  

(An Oral History)

Shouldn’t that be …

Nah, I can’t.

I'm handy, but I've never built anything of consequence. @('.')@

by monkeyball on May 29, 2008 9:25 AM PDT up reply actions  

and another one for the sigline file

“I will write a song about this!”

I'm handy, but I've never built anything of consequence. @('.')@

by monkeyball on May 29, 2008 9:31 AM PDT up reply actions  

This sure looks like a “Y” and an “M” ...

I'm handy, but I've never built anything of consequence. @('.')@

by monkeyball on May 29, 2008 1:25 PM PDT up reply actions  

There's no question in my mind...

They modeled that claw-like gripper hand after GI Joe’s famous Kung-Fu Grip. Observe:

"I'm going to take a camera crew and march into Billy Beane's office and demand to know why instituting his newfangled cost-saving measures means that the run manufacturing plant had to get shut down." FJM

by Elvez on May 29, 2008 9:11 AM PDT reply actions  

Videos like this are exactly why chimps are endangered

link

In 2005, a survey (see the table, left side) was conducted at the Regenstein Center for African Apes (RCAA) at the Lincoln Park Zoo (Chicago, IL). The full survey was made up of 56 questions with the intent of assessing the effect of a new facility on visitor knowledge and attitudes toward apes (2). The final question of the survey asked respondents to select which of three great ape species (chimpanzees, gorillas, and orangutans) were considered endangered in the wild. Labeled photographs were used to ensure that species identification was correct, and the order of the species list was randomized. Of those choices, 95% of respondents thought gorillas were endangered, 91% thought orangutans were endangered, but only 66% believed chimpanzees to be endangered.
...
No prompting with answers was provided, and all responses were recorded by the interviewer. Of the 250 respondents who were willing to provide explanations for their choice, the most common reason for the category chosen (35%) was that chimpanzees were commonly seen on television, advertisements, and movies and, therefore, must not be in jeopardy.

stat-addled alien overlord

by salb918 on May 29, 2008 9:39 AM PDT up reply actions  

commonly seen on television = not in jeopardy?

Shit, the A’s are endangered!

I'm handy, but I've never built anything of consequence. @('.')@

by monkeyball on May 29, 2008 9:50 AM PDT up reply actions  

inverse, not always true; contrapositive always true.

So if the A’s are not in jeopardy, we can safely conclude that they are not commonly seen on television.

stat-addled alien overlord

by salb918 on May 29, 2008 10:03 AM PDT up reply actions  

Eh?

The contrapositive of the above would be “The A’s are in jeopardy, therefore they are not commonly seen on television.”

Your 2008 Athletics: It's Nothing Personal.

by PaulThomas on May 29, 2008 10:12 AM PDT up reply actions  

i thought the contrapositive was "at least they don't kill nuns"

I'm handy, but I've never built anything of consequence. @('.')@

by monkeyball on May 29, 2008 11:29 AM PDT up reply actions  

No, you're getting it confused with contraceptive.

This is how parents are made.

stat-addled alien overlord

by salb918 on May 29, 2008 11:42 AM PDT up reply actions  

Get Rich Quick scheme #1:

Trademark the name “Tommy John surgery”.

Tommy John surgery-technically an ulnar collateral ligament replacement procedure-has saved the careers of hundreds of Major League players. It may one day make the Hall of Fame case for its inventor, surgeon Frank Jobe (who was Hollywood enough to trademark the name “Tommy John procedure”.)

Outcome: FAIL

Banana Split

by Ice Cream on May 29, 2008 9:18 AM PDT reply actions  

and "Frank Jobe surgery" is the trademarked term ...

... for having Tommy John’s foot removed from one’s ass.

Just look at me. How can you not quake in my presence? @('.')@

by monkeyball on May 29, 2008 9:20 AM PDT up reply actions  

Jobe rules....

He did my shoulder, just one of the nicest guys around. Wonderful guy and loves to talk baseball, although I was not pleased he had his 88 World Series ring on.

Bring back Hammer.

by OaktownPower on May 29, 2008 10:49 AM PDT up reply actions  

Jobe rules?

Can’t do surgery on back-to-back days?

stat-addled alien overlord

by salb918 on May 29, 2008 11:09 AM PDT up reply actions  

bionic monkey arm

disturbing video

A's v Giants "is kind of like the difference between going to see the Ramones and going to see the Bee Gees. A's fans will go see the Ramones." -BB 07/27/05

by xbhaskarx on May 29, 2008 9:19 AM PDT reply actions  

Whoa.

stat-addled alien overlord

by salb918 on May 29, 2008 9:26 AM PDT up reply actions  

I think

the monkey was trying to make the arm do the YMCA signs, and kept growing more frustrated when all it did was deliver scraps of food.

The A's colors are green and gold.

by mikeA on May 29, 2008 10:52 AM PDT up reply actions  

does the monkey know it's a gay song?

I'm handy, but I've never built anything of consequence. @('.')@

by monkeyball on May 29, 2008 11:00 AM PDT up reply actions  

Probably

http://www.encyclopedia.com/doc/1G1-20164884.html

Homosexual behavior in apes can help them become more civilized because it can help them communicate more freely. Researchers have found that homosexual behavior is common in apes. They also speculate that homosexuality is a factor in the survival of the species.

Homosexual behavior may have a civilizing influence among the apes, if not among human beings

People who work with primates are used to apes’ planting affectionate pecks on their lips. But imagine the surprise of a San Diego zookeeper, unfamiliar with a newly arrived species known as the bonobo, when the animal gently slid its tongue into the zookeeper’s mouth. The only thing more surprising than the French kiss was that the bonobo, like the zookeeper, was male.

by MrIncognito on May 30, 2008 7:31 AM PDT up reply actions  

but, boy, would you want 'toon in your league

I'm handy, but I've never built anything of consequence. @('.')@

by monkeyball on May 29, 2008 9:31 AM PDT up reply actions  

What a terrible article

Why not just explain in simple terms what the law of large numbers actually does say, rather than something vague and inaccurate like “Over a long period of time (in baseball terms, this means several seasons), luck will tend to even out. In a sample as small as a single season, though, luck most certainly does not have to even out”?

"Tomorrow it may rain." - Leo Durocher

by andeux on May 29, 2008 11:09 AM PDT up reply actions  

I am the meanest person in the world

When the A’s waste a start by Harden because our bullpen is depleted by injuries, I’m not in the mood to read warm and fuzzy stories about how Andrew Brown is nowhere near coming off the DL, but never mind that—he’s got a baby!
I mean, how long does it take to recover from an appendectomy anyway? Geesh.

I am the meanest person in the world.

by SportySpice on May 29, 2008 10:17 AM PDT reply actions  

Does David Biderman read AN?
Most players choose the music that is played in stadiums when they step to the plate for their at-bats. Emil Brown has an interesting selection, the main title from the soundtrack of the movie “The Last of the Mohicans.”

AN 3.0's Search Function is *hawt*!

by Poppy on May 29, 2008 5:32 PM PDT up reply actions  

why would someone need to read AN to know that?

A's v Giants "is kind of like the difference between going to see the Ramones and going to see the Bee Gees. A's fans will go see the Ramones." -BB 07/27/05

by xbhaskarx on May 29, 2008 5:41 PM PDT up reply actions  

They wouldn't need to,

I just thought the timing was funny because we were just talking about it within the last couple of days.

AN 3.0's Search Function is *hawt*!

by Poppy on May 30, 2008 10:47 AM PDT up reply actions  

Life lesson: Do not, under any circumstances, piss off or frighten an elephant.

I think the world would be at least 40% more awesome if real-life test runs of movie schemes didn’t end in indictments.

by 74mk on May 29, 2008 10:18 AM PDT reply actions  

You were supposed to say:

“I find your first item sad and wry and depressingly indicative of the sometimes violent nature of inter-species commingling.

I find your second item very funny.”

by 74mk on May 29, 2008 10:42 AM PDT up reply actions  

After reading your second item...

I have decided to scratch GRQ scheme #2.

Banana Split

by Ice Cream on May 29, 2008 10:47 AM PDT up reply actions  

but what if they get Macha-suits?

I'm handy, but I've never built anything of consequence. @('.')@

by monkeyball on May 29, 2008 11:00 AM PDT up reply actions  

why, if they get Macha-suits...

... then you can stroll into their habitat to eat lunch and conduct and interview and wave them off saying, “You can let us do this, right?”

Banana Split

by Ice Cream on May 29, 2008 11:40 AM PDT up reply actions  

Mariners interested in Hatteberg

A's v Giants "is kind of like the difference between going to see the Ramones and going to see the Bee Gees. A's fans will go see the Ramones." -BB 07/27/05

by xbhaskarx on May 29, 2008 10:38 AM PDT reply actions  

There's a joke here involving seamen, jocks, and YMCA, but

I’m too lazy to connect the dots and make it non-CGV liable.

"wither fair monkeyball?" ~fsu

by LAXile on May 29, 2008 10:44 AM PDT up reply actions  

more animal videos

the kenny rogers of the animal kingdom

A's v Giants "is kind of like the difference between going to see the Ramones and going to see the Bee Gees. A's fans will go see the Ramones." -BB 07/27/05

by xbhaskarx on May 29, 2008 11:14 AM PDT reply actions  

eric chavez back in the a's lineup at dh

according to another fanpost
woo hoo!

A's v Giants "is kind of like the difference between going to see the Ramones and going to see the Bee Gees. A's fans will go see the Ramones." -BB 07/27/05

by xbhaskarx on May 29, 2008 11:26 AM PDT reply actions  

Dude!

E.F.C.

stat-addled alien overlord

by salb918 on May 29, 2008 11:41 AM PDT up reply actions  

FC

I'm handy, but I've never built anything of consequence. @('.')@

by monkeyball on May 29, 2008 11:43 AM PDT up reply actions  

Is that

why they call it a FANpost?

"Tomorrow it may rain." - Leo Durocher

by andeux on May 29, 2008 12:11 PM PDT up reply actions  

LOL

AN 3.0's Search Function is *hawt*!

by Poppy on May 29, 2008 5:33 PM PDT up reply actions  

WOoooooooooo!

I’m excited.

But I hope he’s really really ready. And I can’t imagine that he is.

pam5981: Patience is a virtue that I do not possess.
ohtobe21likehuston: But you're good at drinking and cussing. Two out of three ain't bad.

by pam5981 on May 29, 2008 11:49 AM PDT up reply actions  

Never know..

he has played a few 9 inning games at 3rd and was batting 350+ in Sacramento, with a few homers.

When will then be now? Soon.

by Syphon on May 29, 2008 11:56 AM PDT up reply actions  

Awesome

http://ussmariner.com/2008/05/29/reader-email-of-the-day/

Offered without comment:
Hi, very infrequent commenter here (Isaac is my screen name). We’re liveblogging the spelling bee over at throwingthings.blogspot.com. I wouldn’t bother you with this except that 11-year-old Karen Laska of Wheeling, West Virginia just correctly spelled "sabermetrics" in the first oral round, thus outdoing the entirety of the Mariners front-office staff.

stat-addled alien overlord

by salb918 on May 29, 2008 12:03 PM PDT reply actions  

hah

A's v Giants "is kind of like the difference between going to see the Ramones and going to see the Bee Gees. A's fans will go see the Ramones." -BB 07/27/05

by xbhaskarx on May 29, 2008 12:17 PM PDT up reply actions  

Funny on so many levels.

pam5981: Patience is a virtue that I do not possess.
ohtobe21likehuston: But you're good at drinking and cussing. Two out of three ain't bad.

by pam5981 on May 29, 2008 3:40 PM PDT up reply actions  

f--- all-day meetings

that keep me from wasting time here!!!!

"I don't know half of you half as well as I should like, and I like less than half of you half as well as you deserve."

--Bilbo Baggins

by kaweahkaweah on May 29, 2008 12:38 PM PDT reply actions  

if the robot chimps don't getcha ...

... the mutant superhero frogs will.

I'm handy, but I've never built anything of consequence. @('.')@

by monkeyball on May 29, 2008 1:47 PM PDT reply actions  

Spent the night in a town called Weed ...

I'm handy, but I've never built anything of consequence. @('.')@

by monkeyball on May 29, 2008 5:15 PM PDT reply actions  

No one could dream a place like California

I’ve met one of the assistant brewers from that place. Apparently their merchandise sells well (I think their growlers are particularly cool looking).

But I’m not surprised that the ATF is cracking down on their labeling, as they’re notoriously strict about that sort of thing. The Lagunitas beer marketed as “Censored Ale” was orginally called “The Kronik” but they weren’t allowed to sell it with that name.

"Tomorrow it may rain." - Leo Durocher

by andeux on May 29, 2008 5:47 PM PDT up reply actions  

I'm not exactly surprised, either ...

... but speaking as someone who works in a highly regulated industry, these regs are some pretty weak tea. That’s some serious overreach/overreaction the ATF is engaged in.

I'm handy, but I've never built anything of consequence. @('.')@

by monkeyball on May 29, 2008 6:21 PM PDT up reply actions  

I feel like we're going to achieve victory in the war on drugs any day now.

I lost my cellphone in Weed a few months ago.

Now I’m stuck with a temperamental circa-2002 Nokia with tiny keys, a dim display, and a dicey battery. I can’t hold it between my ear and shoulder while typing, and most of the time the person on the other end of the line sounds like they’re on Neptune. It’s basically a tiny box of staticky malfunctioning hate.

Problematic.

by 74mk on May 29, 2008 6:16 PM PDT up reply actions  

somehow you're receiving day-game threads directly to your phone?

I'm handy, but I've never built anything of consequence. @('.')@

by monkeyball on May 29, 2008 6:22 PM PDT up reply actions  

Fiorentino DFA

That’s that.

I generally bemoan the profusion of Mr Sabermetric Sporks in the Scrabble ranks who don't know the meaning or usage of 50% of the words they use. -monkeyball

by JediLeroy on May 30, 2008 7:44 AM PDT reply actions  

Aw.

AN 3.0's Search Function is *hawt*!

by Poppy on May 30, 2008 10:49 AM PDT up reply actions  

Mentioned in a different thread

But it sounds like Ziggy is on his way to Arlington.

Might as well Jump! - Van Halen

by sprtsnwyn on May 30, 2008 9:16 AM PDT reply actions  

from bbtf:

nate silver’s electoral projections

A's v Giants "is kind of like the difference between going to see the Ramones and going to see the Bee Gees. A's fans will go see the Ramones." -BB 07/27/05

by xbhaskarx on May 30, 2008 9:50 AM PDT reply actions  

also

all 2012 team

no a’s of course

A's v Giants "is kind of like the difference between going to see the Ramones and going to see the Bee Gees. A's fans will go see the Ramones." -BB 07/27/05

by xbhaskarx on May 30, 2008 9:50 AM PDT up reply actions  

"Tristan H. Cockcroft"?

When did espn morph into a Harry Potter fanfic site?

I'm handy, but I've never built anything of consequence. @('.')@

by monkeyball on May 30, 2008 10:14 AM PDT up reply actions  

Woah, crazy....

I’ve been reading his stuff the last several months, which has been pretty awesome and put the rest of the biz to shame…
See “mikeA has a weak moment”

The A's colors are green and gold.

by mikeA on May 30, 2008 10:15 AM PDT up reply actions  

Pesto?

I'm handy, but I've never built anything of consequence. @('.')@

by monkeyball on May 30, 2008 10:55 AM PDT up reply actions  

I know!

It’s an A+ site. Now I feel obligated to renew my lapsed BP subscription as a belated thank you to Nate Silver for all the free 538 awesomeness I’ve enjoyed during the past couple of months.

by 74mk on May 30, 2008 11:08 AM PDT up reply actions  

Not sure if you're joking,

but Nate gets ahead of himself, especially what he has up there right now, and his poll-weighting stuff is sort of dubious (ultimately probably a waste of time.) If you needed to read one thing right now, ‘toon’s article would be a better bet…

The A's colors are green and gold.

by mikeA on May 30, 2008 11:29 AM PDT up reply actions  

joking

stat-addled alien overlord

by salb918 on May 30, 2008 11:58 AM PDT up reply actions  

The whole site is an exercise in getting ahead of (him/our) selves. Still really well done.

by 74mk on May 30, 2008 12:00 PM PDT up reply actions  

are you kidding?

i guess oaktoon’s analysis was interesting for those who don’t follow politics closely, but i didn’t really learn anything from it.

also, i would just like to show up mikeA by adding that my very first comment on dailykos was an entry in their 2004 election prediction contest, posted under a pseudonym. i believe there were multiple threads with over a thousand total predictions. the six factors were percentages for each candidate, electoral college numbers, biggest surprise, when the other candidate would concede, senate margin, and house margin.
i won and they gave me $100 and gift certificate for $100.

A's v Giants "is kind of like the difference between going to see the Ramones and going to see the Bee Gees. A's fans will go see the Ramones." -BB 07/27/05

by xbhaskarx on May 30, 2008 12:08 PM PDT up reply actions  

how can I subscribe to your newsletter?

I'm handy, but I've never built anything of consequence. @('.')@

by monkeyball on May 30, 2008 12:12 PM PDT up reply actions  

maybe i'll charge the same as BP, i win decent amount of $$ on intrade just doing elections (and some baseball)

A's v Giants "is kind of like the difference between going to see the Ramones and going to see the Bee Gees. A's fans will go see the Ramones." -BB 07/27/05

by xbhaskarx on May 30, 2008 12:14 PM PDT up reply actions  

I have to know:

Why the capitalization eschewal? Artistic choice? Saving all those unexpended [shift] key milliseconds for a rainy day?

by 74mk on May 30, 2008 12:32 PM PDT up reply actions  

i'm just really lazy, so i guess the latter

A's v Giants "is kind of like the difference between going to see the Ramones and going to see the Bee Gees. A's fans will go see the Ramones." -BB 07/27/05

by xbhaskarx on May 30, 2008 12:40 PM PDT up reply actions  

I didn't learn anything from it either,

but there’s also not much to learn from Nate’s current projection, and a greater chance to be misled.

The A's colors are green and gold.

by mikeA on May 30, 2008 12:24 PM PDT up reply actions  

I'm now officially confused

about what mikeA thinks of Nate Silver’s electoral analysis (and about whether mikeA is mikea).

Personally, I’m skeptical of whether this kind of meta-analysis of poll results, especially this early in the game.
But the presentation side of it looks very well done.

"Tomorrow it may rain." - Leo Durocher

by andeux on May 30, 2008 12:43 PM PDT up reply actions  

Much of the content is absorbing, addictive, and not particularly useful.

But some of it, such as this, is quite lucid conventional wisdom debunking / complicated scenario explication.

by 74mk on May 30, 2008 1:00 PM PDT up reply actions  

His work on the primaries

was outstanding, because there was good data to work with. What made it work is that early primaries were quite predictive of future primaries. There is not much or good data to work with (at least for doing the sort of analysis he is good at) for the general election. The meta-analysis of poll results is not worth much, although aggregating all polls that come out is a good service, and he perhaps does it better than the other folks who do it, or perhaps not.

The A's colors are green and gold.

by mikeA on May 30, 2008 1:08 PM PDT up reply actions  

Basically the issue is:

there is not sufficient data to do a good quantitative analysis, so a good qualitative analysis is better.

The A's colors are green and gold.

by mikeA on May 30, 2008 12:28 PM PDT up reply actions  

you're probably right

A's v Giants "is kind of like the difference between going to see the Ramones and going to see the Bee Gees. A's fans will go see the Ramones." -BB 07/27/05

by xbhaskarx on May 30, 2008 12:41 PM PDT up reply actions  

in case anyone missed it

Uncontacted Indian tribe spotted in Brazil

Incredible pictures of one of Earth’s last uncontacted tribes firing bows and arrows

A's v Giants "is kind of like the difference between going to see the Ramones and going to see the Bee Gees. A's fans will go see the Ramones." -BB 07/27/05

by xbhaskarx on May 30, 2008 11:48 AM PDT reply actions  

"mostly naked and painted red"

Figures. They’re Angels fans.

I'm handy, but I've never built anything of consequence. @('.')@

by monkeyball on May 30, 2008 12:07 PM PDT up reply actions  

Ice is civilization

I'm handy, but I've never built anything of consequence. @('.')@

by monkeyball on May 30, 2008 12:11 PM PDT up reply actions  

have we discussed all the similarities between fitzcarraldo and the mosquito coast? i’m not sure if they are obvious, but i certainly noticed them…

A's v Giants "is kind of like the difference between going to see the Ramones and going to see the Bee Gees. A's fans will go see the Ramones." -BB 07/27/05

by xbhaskarx on May 30, 2008 12:12 PM PDT up reply actions  

I don't think we have; they are legion

And, of course, Aguirre.

I'm handy, but I've never built anything of consequence. @('.')@

by monkeyball on May 30, 2008 12:31 PM PDT up reply actions  

I really like that film

but I’ve never met anyone who does…

The A's colors are green and gold.

by mikeA on May 30, 2008 12:29 PM PDT up reply actions  

way better than that absurdly tedious

film about Russel Crowe sailing around on his boat that the critics loved.

The A's colors are green and gold.

by mikeA on May 30, 2008 12:30 PM PDT up reply actions  

I actually kinda liked that one

Though I readily concede that it was tedious.

I'm handy, but I've never built anything of consequence. @('.')@

by monkeyball on May 30, 2008 12:46 PM PDT up reply actions  

I think you've met 2, anyway

That’s definitely in my top … well, 20 or 30, anyway.

Easily HF’s best work.

Plus, the queen of elder-hot!

I'm handy, but I've never built anything of consequence. @('.')@

by monkeyball on May 30, 2008 12:33 PM PDT up reply actions  

hmmm

maybe if I was stuck in the Amazon….

The A's colors are green and gold.

by mikeA on May 30, 2008 12:36 PM PDT up reply actions  

I had to get stuck in the Amazon once, after I stepped on a nail

I'm handy, but I've never built anything of consequence. @('.')@

by monkeyball on May 30, 2008 12:45 PM PDT up reply actions  

{raises hand}

AN 3.0's Search Function is *hawt*!

by Poppy on May 30, 2008 5:28 PM PDT up reply actions  

OK!

You want to build our fish farm!

Who has Cust love, besides us? @('.')@

by monkeyball on May 30, 2008 6:10 PM PDT up reply actions  

I think about mikeA when I go to the bathroom

Good movie (don’t quite get that line, though). We’ll have to agree to disagree on Master and Commander, though.

I generally bemoan the profusion of Mr Sabermetric Sporks in the Scrabble ranks who don't know the meaning or usage of 50% of the words they use. -monkeyball

by JediLeroy on May 31, 2008 9:12 AM PDT up reply actions  

more photos are coming in....

(second try)

A's v Giants "is kind of like the difference between going to see the Ramones and going to see the Bee Gees. A's fans will go see the Ramones." -BB 07/27/05

by xbhaskarx on May 30, 2008 12:38 PM PDT up reply actions  

Kotsay to the DL

Not that it means anything, but another anecdote in the “let’s be careful with Chavvy” file.

I'm handy, but I've never built anything of consequence. @('.')@

by monkeyball on May 30, 2008 1:09 PM PDT reply actions  

de los santos


1. Workload – de los Santos was found in the Dominican Republic not very long ago and last year was his first in America and first as a professional player. He thew 122.1 innings last year. The general rule is that you don’t want to increase a pitcher’s workload by more than 50 innings each successive year. I can’t say for sure, but last year was likely the most de los Santos has pitched his entire life and probably by a large amount.

2. Elbow Above the Shoulder – as de los Santos scap loaded, his elbow rose above the shoulder, which is generally thought to put more stress on the shoulder and elbow. However, this was not like the Francisco Liriano mechanics where the elbow was clearly above the shoulder.

3. Abrupt finish – I noticed he had a slightly abrupt finish after release. You want to give the arm as much room as you can to decelerate after release.

4. Aggressive mechanics – As I mentioned earlier, de los Santos has aggressive mechanics, and was therefore likely a higher injury risk.

A's v Giants "is kind of like the difference between going to see the Ramones and going to see the Bee Gees. A's fans will go see the Ramones." -BB 07/27/05

by xbhaskarx on May 30, 2008 7:43 PM PDT reply actions  

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