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Greg Smith tossed 6.2 IP of shutout baseball and the A's scored three runs off of A. J. Burnett despite Burnett's 10 Ks in 5.2 IP. Final Score: A's 3, Blue Jays 1.

It continues to be rather remarkable how dependable the A's starting pitching has been. While A.J. Burnett was racking up 10 strikeouts in less than 6 innings, Greg Smith was doing two things Burnett could not accomplish: stop the running game and keep the other team from scoring. A few specific thoughts on the game:

- I have really appreciated Bob Geren's handling of the offense, including his willingness to combine good old fashioned "don't run into too many outs" conservativeness with a new-to-the-A's aggressiveness under the right circumstances. Tonight the A's obviously felt they could run on the combination of Burnett and Barajas, and saw that A. J. was not easy to hit, and Oakland stole three bases early, with Emil Brown's steal of second leading to the game's first run when the throw caromed into short left field allowing Emil to come all the way around to score. Sure, attempt #4 (Suzuki) resulted in an out, but the A's used the risk-reward game of running well tonight, just as Geren has judiciously used the 3-0 green light and the hit-and-run to keep the opposition honest.

- I also thought Geren won the cat-and-mouse game when he left Alan Embree in to face a couple righties (one of whom, Mench, did single home the Jays' only run), because he avoided a matchup of Foulke vs. Stairs, where Stairs would have represented the tying or go-ahead run. The A's almost avoided having to face Stairs as the tying run at all (damn you, Pesky Eckstein), and I'll take Barajas and Menc, batting in key situations, over Stairs anytime. Good move, or non-move as the case may be.

- Scutaro's at bat leading off the 9th was key, as off the bat it looked like extra bases, but Raj Davis ran it down and made it look easy. Davis may not hit much but he is a terrific OFer who combines great speed with an ability to get a Kotsayesque jump on the ball. I'm not sure if Ryan Sweeney makes that play (depends partly on how he's positioned), but when the A's have Davis in CF and Sweeney in RF they are suddenly very solid defensively.

- The only downer: Frank Thomas, leaving the game with a "slight strain in his right quadraceps" on his 40th birthday. I can relate, as right around my 40th birthday, the "off" switch seemed to be turned on my body, changing it from agile, nimble, and quick to recover...to Dr. Earl Holloway meets Dr. Jack Kevorkian. Get better soon, Frank, and a message to those of you in your 30s: ENJOY IT.

Anyway, if you're going to have a stretch of going 2-9, the best way to do it is to follow it up with 5 wins. Harden vs. Halliday tomorrow night - Yow.

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SMIF IS AWESOME!

Happy birthday, Big Hurt.

Hope you aren’t too hurt.

Green Hulk Fists

by oaklandSMASH on May 27, 2008 10:20 PM PDT reply actions  

tivo confirms Smif's blushing gets progressively more severe

throughout his intereview w/ Jaymee… god I love good young bashful pitchers.

by schmifty on May 27, 2008 10:20 PM PDT reply actions  

I'm a bit annoyed with all of the "How great?"

“How big?” How happ?” questions she repeatedly asks on the post game shows…......Nothing personal towards Jayme, she’s cute and all, but the questions are just kinda dumb….

Go A’s!

by mrod on May 27, 2008 10:34 PM PDT up reply actions  

yeah, i really wish they would just feed her lines

(I assume she’s making up her own)... I don’t mind having her deliver the lines, she doesn’t bother me, I just agree that we could use better questions.

The other team I follow is the Mets, and Kevin Burkhardt blows Jaymee out of the water as far as being knowledgeable, asking good questions, and having great rapport with the players.

by schmifty on May 27, 2008 10:44 PM PDT up reply actions  

Ray Fosse could feed her lines:

“Psst, Jaymee, ask ‘how great does it feel?’”

“That’s what I asked.”

“Oh – GREAT question!!!!”

I like Cindi. A. She never pretends to know more than she does. B. She has unbridled enthusiasm for her "Hotties," and isn't afraid to show it. -IM4Oakgal

by Nico on May 27, 2008 10:46 PM PDT up reply actions   1 recs

Gotta love our pitching...

and, ya gotta hate those lucky Halos, who managed to raise their run differential to 13 tonight, while the A’s went to a best-in-the-AL 50. So, the Angels should be a very mediocre 28-26, while the A’s should be an AL-best 32-20.

At least, the BoSux bullpen is continuing to amuse me… the M’s bullpen, not so much.

Foolsh, the most insane regular poster on AN since oaktoon left - salb

by FoolshGame22 on May 27, 2008 10:25 PM PDT reply actions  

ooops... meant to say...

“the Tigers’ bulpen, not so much.”

Foolsh, the most insane regular poster on AN since oaktoon left - salb

by FoolshGame22 on May 27, 2008 10:28 PM PDT up reply actions  

I understand the frustration, which I also feel,

but the Angels’ starting pitcher threw a complete game giving up two runs – they are playing much like the A’s, struggling to score most days but getting terrific starting pitching.

I like Cindi. A. She never pretends to know more than she does. B. She has unbridled enthusiasm for her "Hotties," and isn't afraid to show it. -IM4Oakgal

by Nico on May 27, 2008 10:43 PM PDT up reply actions  

I'm so sick of hearing everyone complain about

how “lucky” the Angels are. It makes us sound like a bunch of whiny crybabies.

Yes, there’s some luck in baseball, but just wear it. It’s not like we haven’t had plenty of luck, too.

formerly known as mdl

by iglew on May 27, 2008 11:01 PM PDT up reply actions  

ask PaulThomas...

they are lucky! It’s statistically verifiable! LOL

Foolsh, the most insane regular poster on AN since oaktoon left - salb

by FoolshGame22 on May 27, 2008 11:04 PM PDT up reply actions  

and, conversely, we haven't had plenty of luck...

we are statistically “unlucky,” according to our run differential.

Foolsh, the most insane regular poster on AN since oaktoon left - salb

by FoolshGame22 on May 27, 2008 11:06 PM PDT up reply actions  

Do you think teams somehow "cause" the difference between their record and their run differential?

If so, I’d sure like to hear your explanation for how, because as far as I can tell it’s about as pure of luck as you’ll ever find in sports, short of the opening coin toss in football.

Your 2008 Athletics: It's Nothing Personal.

by PaulThomas on May 28, 2008 8:18 AM PDT up reply actions  

I think when making this point

you/we/others should avoid the word “luck” in these and other situations, as it is imprecise anyway, and tends to get people riled up. It is easy to just say “the A’s have played much better ball so far, yet are two games back”, which expresses the same point without having to get into these arguments about luck.

The A's colors are green and gold.

by mikeA on May 28, 2008 10:08 AM PDT up reply actions  

Should I avoid the word "luck"

when talking about how someone cracked my flush by pulling his only out and making a full house?

Should I simply say “I played much better poker, yet lost the hand”?

I’m sorry, that’s ridiculous. Luck is luck. It exists. Everything does not happen for a reason. When someone is lucky, I am going to say that they are lucky. And so far this year, the Angels have been, by a very large margin, the luckiest team in baseball.

Your 2008 Athletics: It's Nothing Personal.

by PaulThomas on May 28, 2008 11:06 AM PDT up reply actions  

but its not even all luck in run differentials

there are other factors that can fit the makeup. Teams with better bullpens and better managers will win a little more than their “fair share” of one-run games. Granted, not as much as many people make it out. Also, some teams have very weak backends of the bullpen, so they’ll lose more than their fair share of blowouts skewing their run differential. Run differential analysis is a great and fairly accurate tool in predicting wins, but to say it’s “as pure of luck as you’ll ever find in sports” just isn’t true.

But I have no problem calling the Angels lucky! Lucky F$#%s!

Jeremy was safe. He jumped over the tag.

by mrrickyg on May 28, 2008 2:33 PM PDT up reply actions  

OK...

The A’s have like the best bullpen in baseball. The Angels bullpen, K-Rod aside, sucks.

Your 2008 Athletics: It's Nothing Personal.

by PaulThomas on May 28, 2008 2:59 PM PDT up reply actions  

how about "stochastic variation" instead of "luck"

I find that using 3- or 4-syllable words tends to simply keep the easily riled crowd from reading posts in the first place.

Just look at me. How can you not quake in my presence? @('.')@

by monkeyball on May 28, 2008 11:39 AM PDT up reply actions  

lol

A's v Giants "is kind of like the difference between going to see the Ramones and going to see the Bee Gees. A's fans will go see the Ramones." -BB 07/27/05

by xbhaskarx on May 28, 2008 12:45 PM PDT up reply actions  

much better, seriously

The A's colors are green and gold.

by mikeA on May 28, 2008 2:43 PM PDT up reply actions  

I'm just trying to make my posts less standoffish

and intellectually based.

Your 2008 Athletics: It's Nothing Personal.

by PaulThomas on May 28, 2008 2:57 PM PDT up reply actions  

So then I got

stochasticky last night?

I like Cindi. A. She never pretends to know more than she does. B. She has unbridled enthusiasm for her "Hotties," and isn't afraid to show it. -IM4Oakgal

by Nico on May 28, 2008 5:51 PM PDT up reply actions  

G-Unit is the man

He is quickly becoming my third favorite pitcher behind Duke and Tricky Dick. Just a pleasure to watch him pitch and the team doing just enough to win a tight game.

By the way Nico, I’m only 38 and I”m already falling apart!!!!! :{

by mrod on May 27, 2008 10:32 PM PDT reply actions  

wait until you hit 50...

if you and Nico think 40 is bad… just wait until things start going numb for no apparent reason. When just getting out of the car can mean instant, dibilitating back pain.

Foolsh, the most insane regular poster on AN since oaktoon left - salb

by FoolshGame22 on May 27, 2008 10:34 PM PDT up reply actions  

Great!

Now I can look forward to numb limbs and a sagging package in my not so golden years…......

:>

by mrod on May 27, 2008 10:36 PM PDT up reply actions  

Indeed...

I was hoping for much quicker progress in the genetic engineering revolution. I wanted to be among the first immortal generation, but alas, my dreams seem doomed to the Stones sad refrain:

What a drag it is getting old
“Kids are different today…”
Mother’s Little Helper

Foolsh, the most insane regular poster on AN since oaktoon left - salb

by FoolshGame22 on May 27, 2008 10:44 PM PDT up reply actions  

Actually, my plan is to live forever

and so far, so good!

I like Cindi. A. She never pretends to know more than she does. B. She has unbridled enthusiasm for her "Hotties," and isn't afraid to show it. -IM4Oakgal

by Nico on May 27, 2008 10:45 PM PDT up reply actions  

Hey, the guy has had

more solid strokes than Daric Barton.

I like Cindi. A. She never pretends to know more than she does. B. She has unbridled enthusiasm for her "Hotties," and isn't afraid to show it. -IM4Oakgal

by Nico on May 27, 2008 10:46 PM PDT up reply actions  

up the middle?

or to the opposite field?

(Buddam-bump!)

by mrod on May 27, 2008 10:47 PM PDT up reply actions  

he bought The Picture of Dorian Gray...

from his American Bandstand riches.

Foolsh, the most insane regular poster on AN since oaktoon left - salb

by FoolshGame22 on May 27, 2008 10:47 PM PDT up reply actions  

I can corroborate that!!

what’s worse is a brain that is stuck on 22… “Oh, I can pick that up!” “Oh, let’s just walk..it’s not that far.”....and the best is, ” I’ll just fire up the computer around 8:30, and knock out a letter to …(blank).”

At 8:20… “ZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZzzzzzzzzzzzzZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZ!!zzzzz zzzzzzzzz”

*8^))

Going to try to stay up and go to Wednesday night’s game!

"I never predict anything, and I never will." Paul Gascoigne, English footballer

by One won lost won on May 27, 2008 11:40 PM PDT up reply actions  

my brain is stuck on 19...

and, I usually fall asleep after 4:20.

Foolsh, the most insane regular poster on AN since oaktoon left - salb

by FoolshGame22 on May 28, 2008 12:11 AM PDT up reply actions  

"Oh, I can pick that up!"

My problem is when I apply that cavalier attitude when going out with friends.

Just look at me. How can you not quake in my presence? @('.')@

by monkeyball on May 28, 2008 11:40 AM PDT up reply actions  

All in due course

way too early to worry about Angels and run differential. let them stay ahead of us and keep us in the national weeds for a bit longer.

We have the best rotation in baseball, that’s right, the best—and one of the deepest teams. No we don’t really have a stud hitter and yes we will go through some scoring droughts, but we have multiple ways to beat you and I’m beginning to think the sky’s the limit here.

by madmongoose on May 27, 2008 10:32 PM PDT reply actions  

That all said...

Beating Halladay will be a bear.

by madmongoose on May 27, 2008 10:33 PM PDT up reply actions  

So will beating Harden

I’m gonna go to the game tomorrow…....this is a can’t miss matchup folks!!!!

by mrod on May 27, 2008 10:39 PM PDT up reply actions  

I'd buy that

for two dollars!

Green Hulk Fists

by oaklandSMASH on May 27, 2008 11:35 PM PDT up reply actions  

I think I'm gonna go too.

No doubt it will be nice and roomy.

pam5981: Patience is a virtue that I do not possess.
ohtobe21likehuston: But you're good at drinking and cussing. Two out of three ain't bad.

by pam5981 on May 27, 2008 11:37 PM PDT up reply actions  

It will be cold, but my outermost layer

will be the AthleticsNation t-shirt!

“In Billy We Trust”.

He certainly brought home the goods for 2008!!

"I never predict anything, and I never will." Paul Gascoigne, English footballer

by One won lost won on May 27, 2008 11:42 PM PDT up reply actions  

true enough...

but, I still get pissed when I see idiots like Eric Mack keep the loser BoSux in 1st place in his SportsLine.com Power Rankings... justifying it because, ummm… they get a mulligan for getting swept by his #12 ranked A’s. And, yet, he moves the A’s up one spot to #11 for sweeping his #1 ranked BoSux. All the while, moving the Rays and Marlins into the top 10.

Eric… Just like crying, there’re no mulligans in baseball. Moron!

Foolsh, the most insane regular poster on AN since oaktoon left - salb

by FoolshGame22 on May 27, 2008 11:01 PM PDT up reply actions  

Guys like that

are just a bunch of dumb-ass yahoos…don’t even bother letting them upset you…...

by mrod on May 27, 2008 11:06 PM PDT up reply actions  

wow

The bit of information that brought him to respect the Marlins is that their starting pitchers have a W-L record of 20-14. This is almost not dumb, because the starters W-L record should correlate pretty well with the team W-L record and power rankings should pretty much match up with that. But instead he uses that tidbit specifically to argue that their starters are better than he thought.

Just to be totally clear, he points out that the Marlin’s rotation is bottom five in ERA, that the team is second in baseball with 71 HR, and that their bullpen has been very good… and yet a 20-14 record for the starters somehow means that they have been pitching well. Arrgh.

by colin on May 28, 2008 12:16 PM PDT up reply actions  

I got that stuff

and it is great for energy…..but does not really heal broken bones any quicker….oye!

by mrod on May 27, 2008 10:35 PM PDT reply actions  

Odd game

The A’s really should not have even scored a run in this one. Between Burnett K-ing a ton of guys and Toronto’s (basically) league-leading defense, the A’s were sick lucky to get as many hits as they did. Meanwhile the A’s pitchers kind of lacked in the strikeout department. Yet the balls fell in for Oakland at the key moments.

Shrug. That’s why they play 162 games, I guess. It makes up for what happened in Smith’s LAST start…

Tomorrow: Harden v. Halladay at the Coliseum? Even a stodgy sabermetric like me might have guys bunting the runner over in the early innings of that one…

Your 2008 Athletics: It's Nothing Personal.

by PaulThomas on May 27, 2008 10:36 PM PDT reply actions  

yeah

keeping the blue jays to one run isn’t a defining moment. One word :Shannon Stuart DH.

by Future Ed on May 27, 2008 10:48 PM PDT up reply actions  

another word

Startingleftfieldermarcoscutaro

Just look at me. How can you not quake in my presence? @('.')@

by monkeyball on May 28, 2008 11:47 AM PDT up reply actions  

Burnett K-ing

Any relation to the creep in tights on TV?

by mrod on May 27, 2008 10:38 PM PDT reply actions  

boy howdy, that is one sober sounding

dude on Buans show as the first caller.

alaska A

by ak_A on May 27, 2008 10:39 PM PDT reply actions  

Did the call start,

“Earl, from the hospital lobby, you’re our first caller!”

I like Cindi. A. She never pretends to know more than she does. B. She has unbridled enthusiasm for her "Hotties," and isn't afraid to show it. -IM4Oakgal

by Nico on May 27, 2008 10:50 PM PDT up reply actions  

More like

“Earl from beyond the grave, please call your motha! She’s the only one who really loves you…..”

-Veh!

by mrod on May 27, 2008 10:55 PM PDT reply actions  

just got back from the game

fewer than 10,000 (regardless of the official attendance) got to see alot of A’s running aggressively on the bases (evidently the Burnett-Barajas combination was a good one to run on, just as Burnett was not very hittable), and another very masterful pitching performance from Greg Smith (boy he does not look like a rookie pitcher out there). The left field bleacher drummers were finally out in force—and they actually did the Marco – Scutaro chant!

As of tomorrow I’ll be an NRAF until August—if you’re anywhere near the Bay Area and an A’s fan, make sure you go support this team!!

by OaklandSi on May 27, 2008 10:56 PM PDT reply actions  

One more downer

Both Buck and Chavvy with 0-fers today although Chavez had 2 walks and Buck one. CarGo went 1-4.

"Loyal? I'm the most loyal player money can buy." - Don Sutton

by vignette17 on May 27, 2008 10:56 PM PDT reply actions  

AAAAAHHHH!!!!

Billy, blow up this team!!!!!!!

I like Cindi. A. She never pretends to know more than she does. B. She has unbridled enthusiasm for her "Hotties," and isn't afraid to show it. -IM4Oakgal

by Nico on May 27, 2008 10:57 PM PDT up reply actions  

As long as Chavvy's not hurting

I’m happy.

pam5981: Patience is a virtue that I do not possess.
ohtobe21likehuston: But you're good at drinking and cussing. Two out of three ain't bad.

by pam5981 on May 27, 2008 11:37 PM PDT up reply actions  

I think Thomas faked the injury

so he doesn’t have to face Halliday tomorrow. You know what, I think i’ll go find Frank and say that to his face.

I like Cindi. A. She never pretends to know more than she does. B. She has unbridled enthusiasm for her "Hotties," and isn't afraid to show it. -IM4Oakgal

by Nico on May 27, 2008 10:57 PM PDT reply actions  

I hope you have

a good plastic surgeon…... ;o

by mrod on May 27, 2008 10:57 PM PDT reply actions  

His name is Earl Holloway and he was the first call on Extra Innings

He’s really good, though he’s getting on a bit and—

—Crap, anyone know a good plastic surgeon?

I like Cindi. A. She never pretends to know more than she does. B. She has unbridled enthusiasm for her "Hotties," and isn't afraid to show it. -IM4Oakgal

by Nico on May 27, 2008 10:59 PM PDT up reply actions  

AAH!! Earl Holloway!!!

"God doesn't pay attention to your cute little hypotheticals." -- Jeff from LL

by oblique on May 27, 2008 11:24 PM PDT up reply actions  

Earl! That old???!!????

and not dead yet??!!

"I never predict anything, and I never will." Paul Gascoigne, English footballer

by One won lost won on May 27, 2008 11:45 PM PDT up reply actions  

If Nico does end up needing one,

I hope he can give Greg Smith a referral.

That pic on mlb.com is just ghastly.

Your 2008 Athletics: It's Nothing Personal.

by PaulThomas on May 27, 2008 11:00 PM PDT up reply actions  

Where's the love?

Scutaro’s first AB had a beyond pathetic cheer from the fans. My wife and I were cheering as were a many others but overall pretty sad.

by fansince1980 on May 28, 2008 7:21 AM PDT reply actions  

Geren

I just refuse to accept that Geren allowed Embree to pitch to Mench, who against lefties is like Vladimir Guerreroish. And against righties is Emil Brown. I didn’t like it at all.

by Emmett89 on May 28, 2008 8:07 AM PDT reply actions  

Because Mench would never have faced a righty,

Stairs would have.

I like Cindi. A. She never pretends to know more than she does. B. She has unbridled enthusiasm for her "Hotties," and isn't afraid to show it. -IM4Oakgal

by Nico on May 28, 2008 9:53 AM PDT up reply actions  

I still prefer my nickname for Smith

“Scabby”

Just look at me. How can you not quake in my presence? @('.')@

by monkeyball on May 28, 2008 11:48 AM PDT reply actions  

anybody get a response from comcast?

"Not in your wildest alcoholic nightmare would you ever imagines such events unfolding!" Bill King

by Buck Turgidson on May 28, 2008 3:37 PM PDT reply actions  

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