DLD 5/27/08: Never trust anyone over 29
Happy Birthday to Frank Thomas, born May 27, 1968.
There is an interview with Billy Beane on the front page. Read part 1, part 2, and (eventually) part 3.
Some USSM readers see almost every Beane comment as a personal attack on their own front office:
I mean, he didn’t reference the M’s FO by name, but wow, could he at least be a bit more subtle when insulting the M’s.
Your 2008 Oakland Athletics - A Visual History
John Sickels of minorleagueball has a Top 50 Hitters Status Report.
It's still early, but these four teams
Rays 31-20 $44m (29)
Marlins 30-20 $22m (30)
D-backs 30-21 $66m (23)
A's 28-23 $48m (28)
are playing better than these four teams:
Yankees 25-26 $209m (1)
Mets 23-26 $138m (2)
Tigers 21-30 $138m (3)
Mariners 18-34 $118m (9)
Ichiro made a great catch yesterday:
Lookout Landing:
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Yeah, that's a called strike three on a pitch well off the plate. Giambi obviously didn't think much of it, but then, this isn't a new phenomenon - umpires just have a crazy different strike zone for left-handed hitters. Check out this article by John Walsh, and, if you want to skip the meat, scroll down to the bottom. Hello, outside strikes. I don't know how or why this is the way it is, but a smart pitcher - that is, someone who's aware of PITCHf/x - that is, Brian Bannister - - should absolutely be using this to his advantage. Unfair or not, that's the reality, and it would be silly not to exploit it.
More Pitch f/x:
Preliminary Aging Curve for Fastball Speed
It appears that until pitchers reach 28 or 29, they increase the speed on their fastball by about 1.5 mph. After 29, there is a rather sharp decline in fastball speed.
During the next five years, pitchers lose just over four mph.
Another article on Pitch f/x:
While nobody is sure what this means for baseball, it is generating a great deal of talk. Earlier this month in San Francisco, Sportvision Inc., the sports-entertainment technology company that helped develop the system, hosted a Pitch f/x "summit." By the end, the stats wonks, engineers and nine team representatives in attendance could barely contain themselves. "It's tremendously exciting for people like me," said Mat Olkin, a Kansas City Royals consultant.
Keith Woolner, the manager of research and analysis for the Cleveland Indians, said the ability to capture such detailed measurements is "the next step" in baseball knowledge and strategy.
...
The scene at the Pitch f/x summit was symbolic of baseball's increasing wonkiness. The 52 attendees — some of them college professors — met to discuss how to improve the system and how to interpret its results. Participants swapped theories about determining the coefficient of drag and made jokes about the difficulty analyzing Boston pitcher Tim Wakefield's knuckleball. Nine major-league clubs sent representatives to the summit, including the New York Yankees, Boston Red Sox and Los Angeles Angels of Anaheim.
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those are some huge +/- bars on that graph
You know what would be interesting? At age 29, split it into two trendlines: those who were out of MLB w/i 2 years of each data point, and those who remained active. I suspect you’d see the ranges shrink a whole lot.
I’d also be interested in seeing the same graph done for pitchers named in the Mitchell Report (just for the heck of it) vs non-named.
Just look at me. How can you not quake in my presence? @('.')@
by monkeyball on May 27, 2008 9:44 AM PDT reply actions 0 recs
not-especially-informative Chron article on A's attendance
This is the sort of thing that an editor should grant a writer about 2 more days of deadline on.
Just look at me. How can you not quake in my presence? @('.')@
by monkeyball on May 27, 2008 9:50 AM PDT reply actions 0 recs
rajai davis bashes oakland
“That’s one of the first things I noticed when I came over here,” said A’s outfielder Rajai Davis, who started the season with the Giants before riding the waiver line across the bay. His first game with the then-first place A’s was April 24 against the visiting Twins. The crowd count was 12,593.
“When I was over in San Fran, I know we were in dead last but they were committed fans and they came out,” Davis said. “Over here, even when we were in first place, the crowds weren’t like what you’d think.
A's v Giants "is kind of like the difference between going to see the Ramones and going to see the Bee Gees. A's fans will go see the Ramones." -BB 07/27/05
by xbhaskarx on May 27, 2008 9:54 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Naughty naughty
A player is not supposed to bash his fans.
"I don't know half of you half as well as I should like, and I like less than half of you half as well as you deserve."
--Bilbo Baggins
by kaweahkaweah on May 27, 2008 10:06 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
how is he bashing the fans?
It’s an objective fact that SF draws more than the A’s.
Just look at me. How can you not quake in my presence? @('.')@
by monkeyball on May 27, 2008 10:09 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
that's definitely how some of the more sensitive fans will take it
A's v Giants "is kind of like the difference between going to see the Ramones and going to see the Bee Gees. A's fans will go see the Ramones." -BB 07/27/05
by xbhaskarx on May 27, 2008 10:12 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
The "committed fans" part
could ruffle the feathers of some fans, since he is implying that A’s fans aren’t as committed. I’m not going to the coliseum with a torch and pitchfork in my hands, but I’m sure some will take offense.
"I don't know half of you half as well as I should like, and I like less than half of you half as well as you deserve."
--Bilbo Baggins
by kaweahkaweah on May 27, 2008 10:19 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Hopefully our hitters
stat-addled alien overlord
by salb918 on May 27, 2008 10:19 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
hunh? that makes zero sense
If one is a “committed fan,” then presumably one attends a lot of games. Therefore, one would not be one of the absent, non-committed fans not attending games about whom Raj was speaking.
Just look at me. How can you not quake in my presence? @('.')@
by monkeyball on May 27, 2008 11:38 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Most A's fans
even the ones who don’t go to games, would like to think of themselves as committed A’s fans.
"I don't know half of you half as well as I should like, and I like less than half of you half as well as you deserve."
--Bilbo Baggins
by kaweahkaweah on May 27, 2008 11:52 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
if they consider themselves "committed," but don't go to ballgames ...
... and they’re offended by what Raj said, then they’re delusional idiots.
Just look at me. How can you not quake in my presence? @('.')@
by monkeyball on May 27, 2008 12:00 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
No argument from me about that.
Heck, I think the last element alone would qualify one as a D.I.
"I don't know half of you half as well as I should like, and I like less than half of you half as well as you deserve."
--Bilbo Baggins
by kaweahkaweah on May 27, 2008 12:21 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
I think you are totally right on a logical level
but on an emotional level, when I read it, my first thought was “you little shit” even though I do go to games and I am a committed fan. It’s just the way emotion tends to work.
"Don't be an ass!" --Bill King
by batgirl on May 27, 2008 12:54 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
many people react that way to my posts ;)
Just look at me. How can you not quake in my presence? @('.')@
by monkeyball on May 27, 2008 1:06 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Why, you little s---!!!
"I don't know half of you half as well as I should like, and I like less than half of you half as well as you deserve."
--Bilbo Baggins
by kaweahkaweah on May 27, 2008 1:08 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Attending lots of games
has much more to do with being a wealthy fan. That’s why the A’s are moving to San Jose.
So it goes.
by jeepers on May 28, 2008 5:24 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
He can outrun the angry mob
stat-addled alien overlord
by salb918 on May 27, 2008 10:12 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
he's just trying to increase attendance
Or, if no one’s there to boo/jeer him, why not speak his mind?
Just look at me. How can you not quake in my presence? @('.')@
by monkeyball on May 27, 2008 10:08 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
The rest of the quote would help
“I believe we have a really good team and we’re going to win a lot of games. The more we win, the more they’re going to come out. If that’s what it takes to win them, then hey, that’s what it takes.”
by jeffro on May 27, 2008 10:52 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
winning increases attendance. sure, davis is not denying that completely obvious point. that changes everything!
davis went from a dead last team to a first place team (at the time), and one of the first things he noticed was the low attendance in oakland, and says that despite the giants being a terrible team over the last four years (75-87, 76-85, 71-91, 20-31), san francisco has “committed fans” who “show up” to games.
and then the rest of the quote says… winning games increases attendance.
he’s not saying if the a’s keep winning, they will draw more fans than the giants.
so sure, davis is not denying that completely obvious point, that changes everything!
A's v Giants "is kind of like the difference between going to see the Ramones and going to see the Bee Gees. A's fans will go see the Ramones." -BB 07/27/05
by xbhaskarx on May 27, 2008 2:31 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
dangers of the copy-paste…
A's v Giants "is kind of like the difference between going to see the Ramones and going to see the Bee Gees. A's fans will go see the Ramones." -BB 07/27/05
by xbhaskarx on May 27, 2008 2:32 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Oh, Rajai. Crash needs to get over there
and teach you how to talk to the press.
They’re committed… to their wine.
And “San Fran”? Oh honey. There’s help, really.
"This must be heaven," he says.
"No. It's Oakland."
by Kyli on May 27, 2008 1:53 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Oh Raj....
“just ‘cause you ain’t
s’posed to think don’t mean you ain’t
s’posed to use your head.”
Y’know, I’m just happy to be here
and hope I can help the ballclub. I
just want to give it my best shot
and good Lord willing, things’ll
work out… gotta play ‘em one day
at a time, Y’know…
http://www.imsdb.com/scripts/Bull-Durham.html
"optimism 1 pessimism 0" ~Dirk
by 149 on May 27, 2008 3:22 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
How does anyone explain Zito's rapid decline in MPH's well before
he should have lost those MPH’s? I have my suspicions.
by 33SwisherSweet on May 27, 2008 9:53 AM PDT reply actions 0 recs
"should have"?
zito never missed a start and pitched more innings than just about every other pitcher over that period.
A's v Giants "is kind of like the difference between going to see the Ramones and going to see the Bee Gees. A's fans will go see the Ramones." -BB 07/27/05
by xbhaskarx on May 27, 2008 9:56 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Zito was born in the DR?
Just look at me. How can you not quake in my presence? @('.')@
by monkeyball on May 27, 2008 10:07 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
LOL
I think I finally have the name for Monkeyball Jr.
Just look at me. How can you not quake in my presence? @('.')@
by monkeyball on May 27, 2008 11:49 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
I am honored, until the poor lad comes and hunts me down, and punches
me in the face when he gets older.
by theblackpearl on May 27, 2008 12:07 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Be sure to stay out of Gatlinburg during the summer months.
“My name is Bariago—How do you do?”
“Now yer gon’ die!”
Congrats MB—I’d missed the earlier posting!
The meaning of life is not so much 'found,' as it is 'made.' --Opus
by The Dogfather on May 27, 2008 12:24 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
I missed it too...it was a FaNsHoT.
I never check those.
stat-addled alien overlord
by salb918 on May 27, 2008 12:27 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
I don't even get the point of them
"The Athletics at Fremont" is noxious
by ArakSOT on May 28, 2008 7:47 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
To announce pregnancies, I guess.
stat-addled alien overlord
by salb918 on May 28, 2008 9:47 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
You're pregnant?
Wow. Congrats!
by As Fan in the Bronx on May 28, 2008 9:52 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Me either. Congrats MonkeyMan!
"He's a misfit. He gets along with everyone." - Reggie Jackson, describing Joe Rudi
by McFood on May 30, 2008 7:21 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
-You cracked the bigs at 22, even though four years earlier, 891 kids were drafted, many from high school, and you were passed by. That’s determination!-You’ve never pulled down more than $10 million in a season despite playing in the helium salary era. Either have we! You’re an everyman!
-Dude, you swing a rusted iron pipe (reportedly found during a renovation project in Old Comiskey Park) in the on-deck circle. How is that not stunningly cool?
-When you hit your 500th home run, you said, “It means a lot to me because I did it the right way.” Subtle, classy, but with a dagger. Nice!
A's v Giants "is kind of like the difference between going to see the Ramones and going to see the Bee Gees. A's fans will go see the Ramones." -BB 07/27/05
by xbhaskarx on May 27, 2008 11:19 AM PDT reply actions 0 recs
That article is beyond awesome.
If candy and lollipops and steel pipes were fused into some sort of awesome person, it would be Frank Thomas.
"This must be heaven," he says.
"No. It's Oakland."
by Kyli on May 27, 2008 1:44 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Canadians are more accepting of offbeat ads
Although I must say there’s an element of this that makes me wince.
Just look at me. How can you not quake in my presence? @('.')@
by monkeyball on May 27, 2008 1:54 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
I call Shenanigans
Every one of those reminded me of previous A’s ones (The Billy Koch one in particular, also Macha pulling up a shoulder launcher towards Eric (and, of course, the drummers dictating the lineup to Howe)). Does anyone know where theres an archive of those?
By the way, the BlueJays were forced to put on a “Don’t try this at home, kids” advisory on that commercial, and then had a Frank Thomas Pillow Day at the park
by As Fan in the Bronx on May 27, 2008 2:08 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
I've been searching for those commercials for years.
Ever since MLB.com switched their format for video, they’ve been unavailable on the internet, as far as I’m aware.
"This must be heaven," he says.
"No. It's Oakland."
by Kyli on May 27, 2008 2:23 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
are the a's commercials not on youtube?
A's v Giants "is kind of like the difference between going to see the Ramones and going to see the Bee Gees. A's fans will go see the Ramones." -BB 07/27/05
by xbhaskarx on May 27, 2008 2:33 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
some of the A's commercials are on youtube
I’ve always been partial to this one… even though it’s not an A’s commercial and maybe cuz I’m old. (I first saw this is Joe’s myspace page… then suddenly all MLBer’s pages were gone in a day. Some still there of a couple of guys who’ve come up more recently… but I’m not saying who.)
"optimism 1 pessimism 0" ~Dirk
by 149 on May 27, 2008 3:31 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
The other twins ones that show up after that are pretty funny
Including Torii Hunter and Johan Santana
by Rickeyfan on May 28, 2008 12:30 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Some of them, but not the really older ones
of the early 2000s, at least as far as I’ve seen… I check semi-regularly, but I’ve only seen back 3-4 years, though with the constant wave on YouTube I may have missed ‘em.
The drummers, Koch, pillowfighting, etc ones I haven’t seen on there. Yet. I hope for change!
They were available through the A’s website with some searching, until the video format change, so it’s quite possible someone’s got ‘em to post on a hard drive… somewhere…
"This must be heaven," he says.
"No. It's Oakland."
by Kyli on May 27, 2008 5:40 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
I might have something on an old hard drive
(My son was a huge fan of BoCro when he was a rookie, and I’m pretty sure he watched the video game spot 20,000 times.)
The A’s site used to have an opening splash page that played a driving version of ‘Take me out to the ballgame’. Said version segues, in my mind, into ‘Bob the Builder’
by As Fan in the Bronx on May 27, 2008 5:46 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
and, BOOOOO!
“Only the Hurt could make this uni look good.”
The yankeesbostoncubs.com caption for the photo in the ‘68 throwback uni.
Just look at me. How can you not quake in my presence? @('.')@
by monkeyball on May 27, 2008 1:57 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Most of that article was RIPPED directly from FT's wiki page...
talk about plagarism.
by 33SwisherSweet on May 27, 2008 2:49 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
I'd like to see an Embree line...
on that fastball graph.
by easyraider on May 27, 2008 11:31 AM PDT reply actions 0 recs
embree's fastball, age 35-38
2005 73.4% (91.5)
2006 82.5% (92.9)
2007 87.1% (92.4)
2008 76.6% (92.7)
A's v Giants "is kind of like the difference between going to see the Ramones and going to see the Bee Gees. A's fans will go see the Ramones." -BB 07/27/05
by xbhaskarx on May 27, 2008 11:39 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Embree does not, somehow, get nearly the attention he ought to
for being an utter freak of nature.
How many lefties have sustained that kind of velocity into their late 30s? I’m having trouble thinking of any. Fangraphs doesn’t filter by handedness, but among pitchers who have thrown 20 innings this year, the only one I know is lefthanded (a lot of younger guys on other teams I just don’t know what hand they throw with) with a higher avg velo is Sabathia… by 0.1 MPH.
Your 2008 Athletics: It's Nothing Personal.
by PaulThomas on May 27, 2008 12:27 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Billy Wagner?
But he’s an utter freak of nature freak. I believe he used to throw right handed but broke his right arm a couple times so he taught himself to throw left handed. I think I’ve seen the numbers somewhere but he used to hit 100+ mph in one season, as a closer, than everybody else in the league combined (this was a couple years back and may or may not be true).
by methodrampage on May 27, 2008 1:04 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
I'm not sure why Wagner didn't turn up on my search
He’s sort of a “yes and no” answer to this question. His fastball is faster than Embree’s, but it’s been declining in velocity every year since 2005. Of course, it had a long way to decline.
Your 2008 Athletics: It's Nothing Personal.
by PaulThomas on May 27, 2008 1:28 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
How many lefties have sustained that kind of velocity into their late 30s?
The question wasn’t how many lefties have kept a similar, yet high, velocity throughout their late 30s. But in response to your question, Wagner has sustained and exceeded that kind of velocity as a sub-6’ lefty in his late 30s. No, yes and no, about it. I mean, is it really reasonable to expect a 37 year old to throw 100 mph? Of course his velocity is going to drop (there aren’t that many pitchers who hit 100 mph to begin with), whether it bottoms out below Embree has yet to be seen but in my opinion Wagner’s feat is more impressive.
by methodrampage on May 27, 2008 7:43 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Sucks for this guy.
Balloon drifts away. Maybe they needed better anchor.
stat-addled alien overlord
by salb918 on May 27, 2008 11:42 AM PDT reply actions 0 recs
Like this?
"Tomorrow it may rain." - Leo Durocher
by andeux on May 27, 2008 11:46 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
I was thinking more like
stat-addled alien overlord
by salb918 on May 27, 2008 11:58 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
And here I was thinking
you meant a more classy anchor.
"Camelot sure fell apart, didn't it?"-Steve McCatty
by 5Aces on May 27, 2008 2:30 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Was Katie Couric seen sneaking away from the launch site?
Just look at me. How can you not quake in my presence? @('.')@
by monkeyball on May 27, 2008 12:01 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
nah Katie couldn't have been there, if so, it would never have drifted away, she seems
to weigh everything down.
by theblackpearl on May 27, 2008 12:05 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
I thought her problem was that she was a lightweight
Just look at me. How can you not quake in my presence? @('.')@
by monkeyball on May 27, 2008 12:38 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Wasn't Billy taking a swipe at Sabean? Here's the "offending" quote:
“We could operate where we have a whole generation of players well beyond its prime but there would be even less people here.”
I mean, if the flu shits, USSMrs, you can wear it, but that seems a little touchy.
The meaning of life is not so much 'found,' as it is 'made.' --Opus
by The Dogfather on May 27, 2008 12:30 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
actually I think he was once again refering to the post-80's A's
where they kept a lot of past-their-prime players and paid the price.
by Zonis on May 27, 2008 1:38 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
WOOOOOO!!!
No electricity at work today. No work with pay!!! WOOO!!
by Jennifer on May 27, 2008 12:38 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
How is that different from any other day you're at work?
"I don't know half of you half as well as I should like, and I like less than half of you half as well as you deserve."
--Bilbo Baggins
by kaweahkaweah on May 27, 2008 1:08 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Sean Doolittle has another installmento
of his blog
by theblackpearl on May 27, 2008 1:09 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
No one in Oakland’s system is going up there with the intention to walk. After all, no one walks their way to the Show. Instead the idea is to rack up the walks as the result of the pitcher’s respect for you at the plate.
This is very well put… no one, the A’s or anyone else, tells hitters not to swing at good pitches. What they want is guys who can identify what “their pitch” is, and then only swing at that pitch when they’re in a hitter’s count. That is what plate discipline means.
Your 2008 Athletics: It's Nothing Personal.
by PaulThomas on May 27, 2008 1:37 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
but it feels like it does indeed translate, at least in the majors, to "take the walk"
by Zonis on May 27, 2008 1:38 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
This is a little nonspecific
If “it” means plate discipline, yes… plate discipline is very strongly correlated with walks. A lot of the time, if you wait for your pitch, the pitcher just won’t ever give it to you, and you’ll end up taking the walk.
Your 2008 Athletics: It's Nothing Personal.
by PaulThomas on May 27, 2008 1:55 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
and, major-league pitchers are more adept at not giving you your pitch
Just look at me. How can you not quake in my presence? @('.')@
by monkeyball on May 27, 2008 2:01 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
okay, I'm grasping at straws here....
...but does anybody know where I can get a t-shirt that says “Athletics Princess”? My daughter saw one at the game on Sun and want one. Couldn’t find it in the store cuz it’s from last year.
by little A on May 27, 2008 1:13 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
Hmm.
Check with the guys at the stadium store, it’s always possible they still have some in storage somewhere that they weren’t able to clear out. Also possible they’ll pop up at the tent sale at the end of the season. :-/ Good luck.
"This must be heaven," he says.
"No. It's Oakland."
by Kyli on May 27, 2008 1:46 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
via MCC ...
Just look at me. How can you not quake in my presence? @('.')@
by monkeyball on May 27, 2008 1:31 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
Chris Denorfia has been dropped from AAA roster
but not added to the A’s active roster. He was reinstated from the DL and optioned to AAA on 5/22, then dropped from the AAA roster on 5/26 with the note “suspended from ML rehab.” He doesn’t, however, still appear on the A’s 40-man roster.
wonder what’s up?
by OaklandSi on May 27, 2008 1:33 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
He's been on ML rehab the whole time
The reinstatement/option was canceled.
The latest move probably means he had some kind of setback with his health, or that they just want to give him a day or two off. Rehab assignments are limited to 20 days, and it seems like the A’s are trying to keep him in Sacramento for as long as possible without having to use up his last option.
"Tomorrow it may rain." - Leo Durocher
by andeux on May 27, 2008 1:48 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
thanks for that 5/23 Rivercats note
which among other things stated that he remained on the Rivercats roster…and he’s not there now.
by OaklandSi on May 27, 2008 3:23 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
and Danny Putnam was just sent back to AA
as of this afternoon the Rivercats have only three outfielders listed on their roster
by OaklandSi on May 27, 2008 4:25 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Huh
Weird. I would expect someone (Zeringue?) would get promoted from AA if Putnam was going down… besides, it’s not like Putnam’s play was subpar. If anything, he was making a case for another MLB tryout.
Your 2008 Athletics: It's Nothing Personal.
by PaulThomas on May 27, 2008 5:07 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Seems to be Marshall.
He pitched tonight in Portland.
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by Masaryk on May 27, 2008 10:55 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
you're right
from Susan Slusser:
Denorfia still on DL: The A’s have yet another demonstration of how tricky back injuries can be: The team had planned to activate outfielder Chris Denorfia and option him to Sacramento, going so far as to officially announce the transaction. It didn’t happen – before the paperwork was filed, Denorfia’s back was acting up again. So he remains on Oakland’s disabled list, according to Geren.Denorfia, who played in four rehab games before his back began to hurt again May 17, was in the A’s clubhouse Tuesday and he said he is scheduled to see a specialist today. He has not had a back injury before this lower back problem, which he described as both stiffness and soreness. Denorfia missed all of last season after elbow surgery.
by OaklandSi on May 27, 2008 11:36 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
I didn't realize
That Frank Thomas had put up such ridiculous numbers earlier in his career? What a bad ass.
Might as well Jump! - Van Halen
by sprtsnwyn on May 27, 2008 2:11 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
Fan Fest
are there videos of last year’s and this year’s Q&A sessions on the A’s website?
by Erin6 on May 27, 2008 2:37 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
They were a few days after the fanfest
I watched a couple of them. not sure where they are now though.
You have to include smiley faces - Poppy
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by micdog2001 on May 27, 2008 5:11 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Copypasta-we were discussing Manly Tears on /a/, and someone reposted this, so lets see how AN takes it
Everyone in the apartment complex I lived in knew who Ugly was. Ugly was the resident tomcat.
Ugly loved three things in this world: fighting, eating garbage, and shall we say, love. The combination of these things combined with a life spent outside had their effect on Ugly.To start with, he had only one eye, and where the other should have been was a gaping hole. He was also missing his ear on the same side, his left foot has appeared to have been badly broken at one time, and had healed at an unnatural angle, making him look like he was always turning the corner. His tail has long since been lost, leaving only the smallest stub, which he would constantly jerk and twitch. Ugly would have been a dark gray tabby striped-type, except for the sores covering his head, neck, even his shoulders with thick, yellowing scabs.
Every time someone saw Ugly there was the same reaction. “That’s one UGLY cat!!”
All the children were warned not to touch him, the adults threw rocks at him, hosed him down, squirted him when he tried to come in their homes, or shut his paws in the door when he would not leave.
Ugly always had the same reaction. If you turned the hose on him, he would stand there, getting soaked until you gave up and quit. If you threw things at him, he would curl his lanky body around feet in forgiveness. Whenever he spied children, he would come running meowing frantically and bump his head against their hands, begging for their love. If you ever picked him up he would immediately begin suckling on your shirt, earrings, whatever he could find.
One day Ugly shared his love with the neighbors huskies. They did not respond kindly, and Ugly was badly mauled. From my apartment I could hear his screams, and I tried to rush to his aid. By the time I got to where he was laying, it was apparent Ugly’s sad life was almost at an end.
Ugly lay in a wet circle, his back legs and lower back twisted grossly out of shape, a gaping tear in the white strip of fur that ran down his front. As I picked him up and tried to carry him home I could hear him wheezing and gasping, and could feel him struggling. I must be hurting him terribly I thought.
Then I felt a familiar tugging, sucking sensation on my ear – Ugly, in so much pain, suffering and obviously dying was trying to suckle my ear. I pulled him closer to me, and he bumped the palm of my hand with his head, then he turned his one golden eye towards me, and I could hear the distinct sound of purring. Even in the greatest pain, that ugly battled-scarred cat was asking only for a little affection, perhaps some compassion.
At that moment I thought Ugly was the most beautiful, loving creature I had ever seen. Never once did he try to bite or scratch me, or even try to get away from me, or struggle in any way. Ugly just looked up at me completely trusting in me to relieve his pain.
Ugly died in my arms before I could get inside, but I sat and held him for a long time afterwards, thinking about how one scarred, deformed little stray could so alter my opinion about what it means to have true pureness of spirit, to love so totally and truly. Ugly taught me more about giving and compassion than a thousand books, lectures, or talk show specials ever could, and for that I will always be thankful. He had been scarred on the outside, but I was scarred on the inside, and it was time for me to move on and learn to love truly and deeply. To give my total to those I cared for.
Many people want to be richer, more successful, well liked, beautiful, but for me, I will always try to be Ugly.
by Zonis on May 27, 2008 2:51 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
Animal Crossing?
Game sounds lame.
by methodrampage on May 27, 2008 3:33 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
obviously, you've never crossed an animal
Just look at me. How can you not quake in my presence? @('.')@
by monkeyball on May 27, 2008 5:30 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
monkeyball jr.
animal crossed with (I assume) a human.
stat-addled alien overlord
by salb918 on May 27, 2008 6:17 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Joe Morgan gives his take on instant replay.
No surprise that said take is idiotic.
Once you open that replay box, where do you stop? The game would slow down even more than it does now, and baseball came out with a new set of rules to speed up the game. I’m concerned with dead time.
This actually echoes many of the arguments against instant replay, this “where do you stop?” thing. It reeks of a slippery slope fallacy. It wouldn’t be hard to say, “instant replay only for home run calls” and just leave it there. There are still dozens of non-reviewable plays in the NFL, like pass interference, holding, etc. It seems like botched home run calls are somewhat easy to fix. But to say that it would lead to, like, automated strike zones and reviews on close stolen base plays is like saying, “Dammit, they opened a Chinese restaurant down the street from my apartment, soon we’ll all be speaking Mandarin!”
As for slowing the game down… please. Now, on calls that would require instant replay, we have to sit and wait as the umpires converge and discuss the call, and often times overrule it, though they’re still wrong an awful lot. All the while, the broadcasters fawn over the “responsibility” being taken by the umps, and talk about how great it is that they’re “taking the time to get the call right.”
Instant replay would be damn near 100% accurate, and couldn’t possibly take any longer than the whole umpire meeting thing does now.
"Looks like you brought two too many."
by BWH on May 27, 2008 3:05 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
He's right, though
There’s absolutely no logical reason to limit instant replay to home run calls. None. Now, if you’re saying home run calls could be a test case for whether it would work at all, I’m on board with that. But it’s ridiculous to suggest that replay has something to add to the game there but nothing to add on close plays at the plate or balls and strikes.
It’s really a very simple calculus. Is the better accuracy worth the loss in time? Generally speaking, pro sports have come to the conclusion that, yes, it is worth it. Except baseball.
Making this all the more ironic is the fact that in baseball, there are virtually no judgment calls. I guess there’s the balk rule (which I think should simply be eliminated entirely) but that’s about all I can think of. It is actually possible to conceive of a perfectly umpired baseball game, in a way that one could never hope for a perfectly refereed basketball game (because the game is full of touch fouls on plays where the officials have to exercise judgment).
So to sum up: I agree with Joe that it is a slippery slope. However, I actively hope that we do slide down that slope. I look forward to the day that all important calls are gotten right, that the strike zone is actually the strike zone, and so on.
Your 2008 Athletics: It's Nothing Personal.
by PaulThomas on May 27, 2008 3:29 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
anyone who works for espn has no right to complain about the length of games
Just look at me. How can you not quake in my presence? @('.')@
by monkeyball on May 27, 2008 3:48 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
"Once you open that replay box, where do you stop?"
Enron
A's v Giants "is kind of like the difference between going to see the Ramones and going to see the Bee Gees. A's fans will go see the Ramones." -BB 07/27/05
by xbhaskarx on May 27, 2008 3:06 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
Dishnetwork Question
I just ordered America’s 100 Plus…
It has Comcast Sports Network, but does it come with CSN+, which is airing todays game?
-Dan
by ironliver on May 27, 2008 4:27 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
almost positive it does
CSN is 419 and i think plus is like 445, although I swear that they move it around. I just end up starting at 419 and checking each channel onthe guide to make sure until I get to like 460.
"Camelot sure fell apart, didn't it?"-Steve McCatty
by 5Aces on May 27, 2008 4:52 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Rotoworld
Informs me that Todd Linden is a right-handed pitcher.
Truly a jack of all trades.
"Looks like you brought two too many."
by BWH on May 27, 2008 5:38 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
This was a mighty fine DLD
Sorry I missed it.
There is an A in Whimsy.
by FreeSeatUpgrade on May 27, 2008 7:33 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
You missed it by less than I did.
AN 3.0's Search Function is *hawt*!
by Poppy on May 28, 2008 12:46 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
And even less than me.
"He's a misfit. He gets along with everyone." - Reggie Jackson, describing Joe Rudi
by McFood on May 30, 2008 8:12 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Here's what the Dick Williams bobblehead...
... looks like.
Looks more like Michael Medved to me but at least he’s rockin’ the stirrup socks.
Banana Split
by Ice Cream on May 28, 2008 10:41 AM PDT reply actions 0 recs
It looks fantastic to me. The first coach/manager BH, and they did it right!
"He's a misfit. He gets along with everyone." - Reggie Jackson, describing Joe Rudi
by McFood on May 30, 2008 8:15 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
So you are going to get the BobbleDick?
AN 3.0's Search Function is *hawt*!
by Poppy on May 30, 2008 10:53 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Pimping my pal's podcast
(Good microphone test for p-popping, for all you future podcasters out there)
The Northern California Pro Sports Report has Mike Piazza as a guest this week and KenKo next week.
Don't blame me, I voted for Ice Cream
by Englishmajor on May 28, 2008 2:52 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs

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