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A Force to be Reckoned With

The luxury of a true ace: You feel like you can beat absolutely anyone when they take the hill.

Rich Harden and the A's once again proved that they're a force to be reckoned with when he's on the mound, cruising to a strikingly low-blood pressure 8-3 Friday night against the Red Sox. 

Entering tonight, the Red Sox were the hottest team in baseball, winners of seven straight, and had the best record in MLB.  They are arguably the best team in baseball. 

But it didn't feel like it tonight, and that's what Harden brings.  He attacked hitters smartly and with supreme confidence, striking out eight hitters and throwing 105 pitches in six innings.  Watch him on a night like tonight, and it's hard to fathom him being criticized by anyone for his courage or toughness.  He looked fearless and relaxed, even smirking when Ellbury squeaked seeing-eye single in the hole on a check swing.

Perhaps just as impressive was what followed him in relief - two terrific innings from Joey Devine in the critical seventh and eighth.  Particularly impressive was Devine consistently hitting 95 with movement and striking out Ortiz with back-to-back over-powering fastballs.  Street following with a clinically efficient ninth, striking out a pair as the A's pitchers tallied 12 strikeouts total for the night.

Mark Ellis certainly made his presence felt in his return to the lineup.  His three-run homer staked the A's to a commanding 7-0 lead in the third, but what won't show up in the boxscore is the three typically outstanding, heady defensive plays he made:

  1. In the top of the third he instinctively called off Barton (thank God) on Kevin Cash's pop-up in shallow right.
  2. He ended a potential rally in the fifth with a slick play up the middle on Pedroia's fielder's choice.
  3. The real subtle beauty of the night:  After Ellsbury had cleanly stolen second in the 7th, Ellis held the tag for an extra moment to catch Ellsbury sliding too far past the bag.

Just typical, ho-hum Ellis:  understated brilliance with no flash.

On the offensive side

Frank the Tank hit his fourth bomb in four games.  Amazingly, our #3 and #4 hitters are being paid less than $750K by the A's this year...and yet, don't you love having them there, hitting back-to-back? 

Here's something I love about Frank:

In his postgame interview, the reporter noted Frank's 7 career bombs against Wakefield, and he replied, (I'm paraphrasing),

" Well, it was cold and windy tonight, and he didn't have the control he typically has. I told the guys that his knuckleball would be fluttering tonight and wouldn't have the same movement.  He's certainly gotten me plenty of times in my career though, I don't know how many times I've struck out against him."

Just says a ton about Frank right there and what he brings.    He's a class individual, an insightful, relevant interview, a great teammate who tries to give advice to young players rather than avoid them, and he's humble.  I'm so glad that, as young as our team is, that our 20-somethings get to watch Frank Thomas and Mike Sweeney every day at work. 

Our offense leaves plenty to be desired, and it's safe to say the lineup will continue be juggled.  But for the time being it's pretty obvious that everything else builds around that 3-4 combo, far and away our two best hitters at the moment and our only current threats to OPS .875 over a full year.

If Chavy can come back and turn back the clock a few years, that could be a very good L-R-L heart of the order in less than a week.  I'm pumped just thinking about it. 

I'll close with just one pessimistic thought (after all, we need something to complain and fret about):

The black hole at the top of the lineup continues to be at least a mild concern. 

Is it psychological?

I'd like to see Geren bring a lineup card to the umpire tomorrow that has slots 2-10 filled in rather than 1-9, and tell the boys we no longer have a leadoff hitter.  Barton of course is in the 10th slot...

...or perhaps Sacramento, once Chavy returns.  At this point I'd like to see Hannahan and Sweeney splitting time over there.   You just can't have a .650 OPS, subpar defensive first baseman. 

 

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In other good news, Travis Buck went 4 for 6 tonight

for the Rivercats. When can he be called up without compromising service time? Seems like he’s finally in a good place with the bat and could be called up any time.

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by Nico on May 23, 2008 10:03 PM PDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

I'd love to have him up ASAP to

give Emil Brown a day or two off, but at the same time, I’m not sure who gets dropped to make room. I suppose DiNardo?

by Blez on May 23, 2008 10:05 PM PDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

or rajai davis?

andrew brown will be back soon enough, maybe they’ll keep dinardo up until then.
actually i’d rather keep davis up than dinardo…

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by xbhaskarx on May 23, 2008 10:11 PM PDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

He can probably pitch better, too

"Their batters are patient to the point that it's annoying." -Ryan Franklin

by Helloooo 1st on May 23, 2008 10:52 PM PDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Probably not Davis...

...as I think he’d have to clear waivers. And I like having a reserve outfielder who’s got speed and plays top-notch defense. Pretty key with Brown and Cust on the team.

I wouldn’t bring Buck back up yet. He’s had 3 good games, but before that he was 2 for his last 19. I’d like to see him put up above average numbers for two weeks before making a move.

I do agree with notsellingjeans that Barton needs to go to Sacto when Chavey returns. That solves the logjam at 1st (Mike Sweeney’s hitting too well to be in a platoon), and gives Barton a chance to get squared away. Hannahan is more versitile defensively, and has slightly better numbers to boot. Sure, Barton is the future, but it’s been two months and he’s still struggling.

by andyinfremont on May 24, 2008 12:22 AM PDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Once he's up, he has to stay up

Buck is still a young hitter and will probably continue to go through hot and cold streaks. The plan can’t be, “Let’s bring up Buck because he’s going to hit .290/.360./.450 month after month”. They need to be willing to let him hit as badly as Brown has hit the last 3 weeks or so and still send him out there.

"And Julio Franco is batting right-handed!" -- Wayne Hagin, A's radio play-by-play, mid-80s

by Nick on May 24, 2008 10:23 AM PDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Do his baserunning and defense

also have to be as bad? I hope it’s not a “package deal”.

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by Nico on May 24, 2008 11:03 AM PDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Doesn't the Super Two rule make it an inexact target?

As I understand it, three years of service time automatically makes you eligible for arbitration. But you’re also arbitration-eligible if you’re between two and three years and you have more service time than 83% of all players who are between two and three years. These top 17% are the “Super Two”s, though I’m not sure where that name comes from.

As a GM, you don’t know exactly how much service time all the players will get, so you don’t know exactly how many days is enough to preserve your guy for another year.

That’s how I understood it, anyway, but I sure don’t presume to know all the rules.

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by iglew on May 23, 2008 11:52 PM PDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Two separate issues

1. An extra year of team control – “preserving your guy for another year”
2. Super Two arbitration eligibility

In Buck’s case I suspect that #1 will prove to be far more important than #2.

1. As a GM you do know exactly how much service time all players get – it’s managed down to the day. You can calculate how many days of service every Oakland A’s player has earned. This allows you to figure out exactly how many days a player needs to spend in the minors to ensure that you get that “seventh year” of contractual control (in Buck’s case, ensuring that he spends just enough time in the minors that he doesn’t get a full year of service this year, so that he ends this season with around 1.170 days of service, rather than 2).

This becomes important in Buck’s case because that extra year of contractual control is the difference between him becoming an FA in 2013 instead of 2012, assuming no more demotions and no contract extension. Buck will be 29 years old in 2013 – generally one of the most productive years of a player’s peak.

(And hence my constant suggestion of Buck and Barton both spending some time at AAA this year. We’d love to have that last age 28/29 season under our control. You could justify squandering that last year down the road if either guy were doing extremely well this year, or critical to the team’s success. Miguel Tejada had to be up on the big club in ‘98 because there was no other SS solution. But he also posted a .233/.298/.384 line that year. I’m sure Beane would’ve loved to have had just one more year of him on the back end – the .311/.360/.534 that he put up in his first year in Baltimore. And the difference between Tejada ‘98 and Barton/Buck ‘08 is that there are better players on the roster who play the same position as Buck and Barton this year. There is no black hole at 1b the way there was at SS in ‘98. So if Barton essentially wastes a whole year of service this year with below-average defense and a .675 OPS, some people will feel kind of silly if the A’s lose out on .900 OPS year from him in his peak in 2014). Beane’s thinking the same thing, and that’s why I’d expect Barton to get sent down if Chavy gets fully healthy soon).

2. Super-Two eligibility is an important factor in the case of the absolute best prospects, but less so in the case of Buck. I’ll attempt to argue that it’s not worth aggressively managing in Buck’s case.

Off the top of my head I can think of three examples of Super-Two status being actively managed/avoided (I just pulled a Devo there and linked to my own work): Miguel Cabrera, Ryan Braun, and Jay Bruce this year.

All three of those players had a few things in common: 1.) They play for middle class teams who are conscious of payroll 2.) They were/are dominant enough minor leaguers that, once they were called up, it was obvious that their play would dictate that they’d never get sent down again, and 3. They all stood/stand to make tens of millions of dollars in arbitration.

In cases that fit that profile, it makes sense to carefully tiptoe around Super Two Arbitration status, because it could cost your team more than $10 million dollars, as evidenced by Ryan Howard’s Super Two arby award this year.

But in the case of Buck – a good player, but also a guy who has had some hiccups and is no sure bet to avoid being sent down again at some point in his career – I don’t think it makes sense to manage his arb status aggressively. In the cost-benefit analysis, the team would have to gain something great to overcome the risk of alienating the player. Ten million or more certainly qualifies; Buck’s murkier situation – which would end up being over far less money, since average players earn far smaller arby awards than elite ones do – doesn’t, in my opinion, especially when you can’t pinpoint exactly what would need to happen to avoid Super 2, as you astutely said yourself.

But back to #1, when you can send Buck down for 20 days now in ‘08 when he’s performing poorly and turn that into an extra year of contractual control during his peak in 2013 (age 29), that makes tons of sense. That’s why Beane did it. The fact that he thinks that far ahead is why he is, in my opinion, the best GM in the game.

"Let’s just hope he’s not a complete turd out there." -thejd44, describing Crosby's best scenario.

by notsellingjeans on May 24, 2008 1:04 AM PDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Thanks, NSJ

I didn’t realize they were two separate issues.

So since you’ve figured all this out, can you answer Nico’s question: Once we’ve secured that extra year, what day does does Buck come back to Oakland?

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by iglew on May 24, 2008 1:50 AM PDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

On the A's transactions page,

Its says that Buck was optioned down on May 10th. He had already been on his rehab assignment for a little while at that point, but the date when the team officially optioned him down is the important one.

So we need to add 20 days to May 10th to find the date that Buck can be brought up safely. May 30th or perhaps the 31st is your (and Nico’s) answer.

"Let’s just hope he’s not a complete turd out there." -thejd44, describing Crosby's best scenario.

by notsellingjeans on May 24, 2008 9:06 AM PDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Good analysis, but you left out one key consideration

It only takes, as you said, 20 days in the minors to defer the FA season by one full year.

On the other hand, it takes (IIRC) nearly half a season in the minors to be reasonably certain that you will avoid the super-2 classification. I may be slightly overstating it with “nearly half a season” – I’m not going to dig for the info right now – but it’s definitely a whole lot more than 20 days. So to your argument, which basically points out that there’s less benefit to controlling the super-2 status than the FA status, I will add the point that there’s also more up-front cost (in missed playing time from a player we could use just as soon as he’s got his stroke straightened out) to trying to control the super-2 status.

I don’t think the A’s want to be without Buck for that long. I cringe every time I see Brown’s name in the starting lineup against right-handed pitchers.

by Faust on May 24, 2008 8:58 AM PDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Excellent point.

Plus, being down in AAA unnecessarily for that long – an extra few months, rather than 20 days – adds to the player’s alienation at the team. Some of what the team gained by keeping him from becoming a Super 2, they would lose down the road in bitter contract negotiations as the player constantly refused to come to agreement when the teams exchange figures.

"Let’s just hope he’s not a complete turd out there." -thejd44, describing Crosby's best scenario.

by notsellingjeans on May 24, 2008 9:12 AM PDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

"the teams" = the "two sides"

that last sentence should finish off with, when the two sides – the player/agent and the team – exchange figures.

"Let’s just hope he’s not a complete turd out there." -thejd44, describing Crosby's best scenario.

by notsellingjeans on May 24, 2008 9:14 AM PDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

rotoworld:
Rich Harden yielded two runs in six innings against the Red Sox on Friday to improve to 3-0 on the season.
The three runs the A’s scored in the first were all they needed in a 9-2 victory.

A's v Giants "is kind of like the difference between going to see the Ramones and going to see the Bee Gees. A's fans will go see the Ramones." -BB 07/27/05

by xbhaskarx on May 23, 2008 10:05 PM PDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

That's hilarious -

Don’t they know that it’s “Hardin”?

I like Cindi. A. She never pretends to know more than she does. B. She has unbridled enthusiasm for her "Hotties," and isn't afraid to show it. -IM4Oakgal

by Nico on May 23, 2008 10:08 PM PDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Someone else contributed tonight, too

Like 3 hits.

A homer

the hit that separated the game

Involved in both big rallies

Now hitting over 300 as an A, and I believe is OPS as an A is now well over 900.

I won’t even mention the “P” word!!

Go get’ em, HURT!!!!!

by madmongoose on May 23, 2008 10:15 PM PDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Cust/Frank

is indeed a beautiful middle of the order. If the two of them match their performances last year for the rest of the way, this is not a bad offense.

The A's colors are green and gold.

by mikeA on May 23, 2008 10:23 PM PDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

I updated the thread

With comments about the offense. Sometimes I write a partial draft just to get something up there for people to discuss and then add to it and edit later on when I finish.

"Let’s just hope he’s not a complete turd out there." -thejd44, describing Crosby's best scenario.

by notsellingjeans on May 23, 2008 10:36 PM PDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Did Rotoworld Just Say...

” The three runs the A’s scored in the first were all they needed in a 9-2 victory.”

Which would be true except that the score was 8-3.

by richwol1 on May 23, 2008 10:38 PM PDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

At least they got the total runs scored correct

"Evidently, a large number of people said, 'We really need more vermin at the ballpark, Artie.'" - Nick (AN), 10/7/07

by doctorK on May 23, 2008 10:43 PM PDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

just got back from the game

29,000 on hand, and fewer Sux fans than I had been expecting. Section 225 was mostly very loud, high fiving A’s fans, which was fun.

It was wonderful to see Ellis out there – the HR of course, but what really excited us was his steady and smart defensive play – he makes everyone around him better. People got a bit anxious in the fifth and sixth innings, when Harden was throwing alot of balls, but he got out of the most anxious moment by striking out JD Drew, and the fans gave him a standing ovation as he walked off the field.

I’ve seen Harden pitch his debut in the coliseum; he’s pitched brilliantly on my birthday – and left the same game early with an injury, not to return that season. I feel that every time I watch him start is something special to treasure, since I never know if I’ll see another one.

The best, though, was beating the Sux in convincing fashion. Can ‘t wait for tomorrow’s game!

(Next Tuesday, when the A;s open up a series at home against Toronto, is Frank’s birthday. Think he’ll be pumped up to face them?!

by OaklandSi on May 23, 2008 10:43 PM PDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Barton

Sending him down now would not be a good move in the short term or the long term. Personally, I don’t think he will continue to be this bad all season. Somewhere around late June or early July I think he’ll start to turn it around and be at the very least a solid 7 hitter the rest of the way. Sending him down now can only hurt his confidence and take away valuable experience he would otherwise be receiving. Plus, replacing Barton with Hannahan is just silly. Jack is not hitting that much better, if at all, than Barton at the moment and his defense might be even worse if you move him to a position he is not familiar with. IMO, Hannahan is the one deserving of a demotion to AAA once Chavvy is ready.

"Their batters are patient to the point that it's annoying." -Ryan Franklin

by Helloooo 1st on May 23, 2008 10:59 PM PDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Just silly

Silly, silly me. You’re right man. I don’t know what the hell I’m talking about. Can’t even offer a rebuttal to any of that. Just too much logic to fight it.

"Let’s just hope he’s not a complete turd out there." -thejd44, describing Crosby's best scenario.

by notsellingjeans on May 23, 2008 11:29 PM PDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Barton

Needs to be sent down because he looks completely lost while Jack gives a more battling AB.

Jack and Sweeney spliting time at first and Barton playing every day in Sacramento seems better for the A's right now.

Beating LAA or wherever the fu*k they are, Priceless!

by MMunoz33 on May 24, 2008 6:38 AM PDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

"Completely lost"

I think “completely lost” is a bit harsh, but he does seem less confident at the plate to me. Last year and early in the season this year, Barton seemed very “quiet” at the plate—not much movement of his hands or body as he watched the pitch being thrown. But now he seems very “twitchy” at the plate, rocking back and forth, waggling the bat a little, etc. I’ve got to think that this is making it harder for him to see the ball. I hope that he gets in front of a video screen and compares his current approach against what was making him successful earlier in the season.

by LoveDemAs on May 24, 2008 9:08 AM PDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Yep

I think Hannahan could become a good utility man if Chavy returns to healthy, near-every day duty at third next week.

Hannahan gets a start or two a week at third to spell Chavy, one or two a week to keep non-Swooney fresh, and maybe even the occasional duty in the outfield as the emergency 5th OFer.

"Let’s just hope he’s not a complete turd out there." -thejd44, describing Crosby's best scenario.

by notsellingjeans on May 24, 2008 9:36 AM PDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

I'd go so far as to say that if (gasp)

the A’s didn’t re-sign Ellis, Hannahan might be their best potential replacement at 2B (where I believe he has played before). His offensive profile (.240/.360 with doubles power) is more in line with a 2Bman than a 3Bman, so if could play plus-D there he could actually be an asset.

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by Nico on May 24, 2008 11:06 AM PDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Why not just resign Ellis?

He won’t break the bank by any means and his production will be better than any in-house replacement we could throw out there at the moment.

"Their batters are patient to the point that it's annoying." -Ryan Franklin

by Helloooo 1st on May 25, 2008 12:06 PM PDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

LOL at the 2-10 idea

I’d love to see Geren try that. Or lacking that, at least tweak the lineup widget to show it in the game thread.

Frank Thomas is awesome. I ♥ Big Frank.

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by iglew on May 23, 2008 11:47 PM PDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Well, bat FT leading off!

He says he’s “running well now”!
Then put on the steal sign…

"I never predict anything, and I never will." Paul Gascoigne, English footballer

by One won lost won on May 23, 2008 11:49 PM PDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Actually, I'd be in favor of that

If for no other reason than it would be really funny.

How ‘bout we let him lead off on his birthday in Toronto?

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by iglew on May 23, 2008 11:58 PM PDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   1 recs

If I'm reading Baseball Reference right

Frank has never started a game at lead-off.

In the “G” column he shows two ABs in the 1 slot, but I think those must be as a pinch-hitter since the “GS” column shows zero. In those two ABs he has one walk and one HR. I think the lesson is clear.

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by iglew on May 24, 2008 12:06 AM PDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

He did lead off a game at SS in 2006,

but it was spring training so I guess that doesn’t count.

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by Nico on May 24, 2008 6:48 AM PDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Good game

But it seemed so short!
I do love to watch Harden pitch and I do love HRs with runners on base, but just as I am floating along in the happy place of an A’s win, I suddenly see Street pitching, 9th inning! “But…what…? This was just getting good…”

Ah well, let’s do it again tomorrow! :)

by streetfan on May 23, 2008 11:52 PM PDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Street has really dominated his last couple outings...

something like 7 Ks in 3 innings, or was there an outing in between those games?

witty remark

by dtownmbrown on May 24, 2008 1:13 AM PDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

These are the days that make me crazy

because I wish everyday were like today.

SIDE NOTE: I picked up Big Frank on all 3 of my fantasy teams (he was still available)

I guess I am a believer in his “turn it on and never turn it back off at around 150 ABs”

lets hope he’s right!

witty remark

by dtownmbrown on May 24, 2008 1:14 AM PDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

I also forgot to mention

this is the first time in days that you won’t see a headline about the Red Sox on mlb.com.

It’s kinda nice, until you think about the fact that the A’s snapped their 7-game winning streak in dominating fashion. I guess the media only likes to talk about happy Red Sux stories.

witty remark

by dtownmbrown on May 24, 2008 1:40 AM PDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Frank vs. Wakefield

Before this season, Frank was 12 for 47 in his career against Wakefield with 6 HR, 2 2B, 6 BB, and 13 Ks. He also had 2 sac flies.

Very much all or nothing, and Frank is right: Wakefield has beaten him plenty of times. But when Frank wins, he destroys.

Numbers according to retrosheet.org, which doesn’t update stuff like that mid-season and I was too lazy to look to see if Frank faced Wakefield earlier this year while with Toronto.

http://bocropleasestopswingingatbadpitches.blogspot.com/

by thejd44 on May 24, 2008 3:34 AM PDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

As I see it

Barton is our – in for a penny in for a pound guy for the season.

alaska A

by ak_A on May 24, 2008 7:32 AM PDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Barton stays

Hannahan isn’t an answer as his replacement. He’s many years older, and trading a .705 OPS for a .651 OPS isn’t going to help anything. A case could be made for making Mike Sweeney the everyday first baseman, but does anyone really think he’d last more than 10 games in that role without getting hurt?

Barton has immense talent—he’ll turn it around eventually. He got off to a slow start last year, too.

So it goes.

by jeepers on May 24, 2008 8:52 AM PDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Trading...

So basically, trading awful performance for better performance will not help anything.

Makes sense.

"Let’s just hope he’s not a complete turd out there." -thejd44, describing Crosby's best scenario.

by notsellingjeans on May 24, 2008 9:45 AM PDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Trading awful performance

for slightly better than awful performance makes no sense, when the person providing the former has tons of room to improve, and the person providing the latter is as good as he’s ever going to get.

So it goes.

by jeepers on May 24, 2008 10:08 AM PDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

And, honestly, it won't help too much in the long run either

Maybe a win over the course of the season, at most (this is just a random guess based on current performance and what I think each guy will do going forward this year).

So is it worth it to trade 1 win for a year full of Barton development? Right now, absolutely. There may come a point where that changes, but as Cust and Thomas heat up and the cavalry arrives, I think the A’s lineup will be able to handle Barton’s struggles.

http://bocropleasestopswingingatbadpitches.blogspot.com/

by thejd44 on May 24, 2008 10:25 AM PDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

The fallacy there...

held by you and many other fans, is that young people can only develop in the major leagues.

And you’re both completely ignoring the paragraphs and essays worth of information that have been posted here about the financial benefits. So even having argument is fruitless.

"Let’s just hope he’s not a complete turd out there." -thejd44, describing Crosby's best scenario.

by notsellingjeans on May 24, 2008 11:31 AM PDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Who died and made you the authority on everything?

Is it really necessary to respond to everyone in this thread who disagrees with you with arrogance?

Nobody said that young players can only develop in the major leagues, although in any line of work people benefit from being challenged, rather than repeating a task they’ve mastered.

Arbitration eligibility and club control are nice things to have, but putting them over your best talent’s development is letting the tail wag the dog. The A’s have plenty of money, and plenty in place to improve their financial situation in the future. All they need to worry about is developing their talent and putting a winning team on the field. Keeping Barton in the bigs is the best way to accomplish both. A month from now, when he’s mashing the ball (a la Jack Cust), it will be evident that sending him down would have been a bad idea.

So it goes.

by jeepers on May 24, 2008 3:21 PM PDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

I love puns.

http://bocropleasestopswingingatbadpitches.blogspot.com/

by thejd44 on May 24, 2008 10:25 AM PDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Lester threw 130 pitches in the no-no

Physically and mentally both, he’s ripe for a whippin’.

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by Nico on May 24, 2008 11:07 AM PDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

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