Todd Linden released
http://www.rivercats.com/team/transactions/
Fiorentino is off the DL, and the Rivercats needed a spot. Buck, CarGon, and Fiorentino are the outfield in Sacto, Gaetti punished the ball in his shot, Cunningham is right behind these guys, Putnam is hitting well, and Denorfia is going to need a place to play too. Linden go bye-bye. He had an out clause so he was probably on his way out anyway, but with the outfield talent the A's have, no real reason to carry a malcontent journeyman.
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makes sense
when are robnett and herrera expected back?
and i had no idea putnam was hitting so well, that is good news.
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by xbhaskarx on May 21, 2008 7:52 PM PDT 0 recs
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I read recently that Herrera will be down for another two months. Haven’t heard a recent update on Robnett, but, iirc, last I heard he was due back the first half of June.
by 31Boots on
May 21, 2008 7:57 PM PDT
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wtf, two more months??
so it’s essentially another lost season for him?
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by xbhaskarx on
May 21, 2008 8:21 PM PDT
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so much for the idea of having him in the same OF as cargon to motivate him...
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by xbhaskarx on
May 21, 2008 8:22 PM PDT
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I blame his mitochondria
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by PaulThomas on
May 21, 2008 8:34 PM PDT
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I blame Meyer's zitochondria
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by monkeyball on
May 22, 2008 12:28 AM PDT
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I blame Hirma Bocachica
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by Ozzz on
May 23, 2008 10:57 AM PDT
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I talked about Putnam in my Minor League update
Shame on you for not keeping current
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by grover on
May 22, 2008 7:18 AM PDT
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I would not be all that surprised
if Cunningham skips AAA and gets the two-level jump to the majors sometime in the second half of the season. The front office is very high on him, and with good reason too.
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by PaulThomas on May 21, 2008 8:15 PM PDT 0 recs
And he can always get his AAA time in
by starting next season 0 for 22 with bad shins.
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by Nico on
May 21, 2008 8:25 PM PDT
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hah
the city dumps fill
the junkyards fill
the madhouses fill
the hospitals fill
the graveyards fill
nothing else
fills.
by Cutthemullet on
May 23, 2008 3:49 AM PDT
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Im suprised to hear you say this.
since most of the time you advocate keeping prospects in the minors. I would love to see Cunningham in Oak. An OF of Cunningham/Gonz/Buck/Sweeney next year, possiblythis year.
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by Syphon on
May 21, 2008 8:32 PM PDT
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Here's my thinking
Cunningham has to go on the 40-man roster this fall anyway, because this is his 4th season after being drafted (he was a juco guy, so he was drafted at age 19). Given that, if he’s raking in the minors, why not give him a look at the MLB level?
He’s a very polished player for his age, so I’d not be terribly worried about rushing him.
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by PaulThomas on
May 21, 2008 8:42 PM PDT
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Well his numbers are impressive..
everywhere hes been. With a minor league career OBP of .377 he could be someone Beane fast tracks.
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by Syphon on
May 21, 2008 8:57 PM PDT
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Barton slumping is a whole other issuse.
Seeing that OBP for Barton makes me even more angry. Someones gotta lite a fire under his ass.
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by Syphon on
May 21, 2008 9:42 PM PDT
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He seems to want to hit his way off the island . . .
problem is, he’s not from the DR and is already on a major league team.
I’d be interested in seeing his pitcher per plate appearance (career vs. this year). He seems very impatient to me.
by oaktownmario on
May 21, 2008 10:51 PM PDT
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Can't figure out how you've acquired that impression
He’s 14th in MLB in pitches per plate appearance (fractions ahead of Jack Cust), and he’s walked in nearly 15% of his plate appearances.
The problem… well, there are several problems, but the most notable one is that his strikeout rate has jumped by almost 10%.
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by PaulThomas on
May 21, 2008 11:17 PM PDT
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Wow, that surprises me
It’s just an (apparently irrational) impression b/c when I see him bat it seems like he’s swinging early and flying out. I guess when you strike out a lot, you’re also missing a lot of balls and therefore seeing more pppa. He just seemed more patient to me in the short time he was here last year. But I guess my “impressions” are wrong.
by oaktownmario on
May 22, 2008 12:53 AM PDT
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More fun with fangraphs
Compared to last year, Barton has greatly decreased the frequency with which he swings at balls (this is good). He has also increased the frequency of swinging at strikes (generally good). But his contact rate has dropped by 10% across the board. Last year he almost never missed a pitch in the zone (90% contact rate). This year he’s down to 81%.
It’s possible, but unlikely, that he was just lucky last year. I think it’s more likely to be either an injury problem (the wrist again?) or a problem with his approach.
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by PaulThomas on
May 22, 2008 9:20 AM PDT
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Approach
Actually, the “approach” could be a result of compensating for an injury. His swing looks different. He’s getting under ptiches. His swing looks loopy at times. I remember one of the early game threads this year where I said how late Barton swings. At that time, he still looked like the real Barton. He waited way back and still got the bat on the ball and made decent contact. That’s not happening now. When he does make contact, he’s popping up. Is this because of the wrist or some other injury? I have no idea. But if I notice this, it’s something I hope the A’s coaching staff/Barton have noticed. It’s possible they have and it’s just taking him a while to get right. I can live with that.
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by thejd44 on
May 22, 2008 1:39 PM PDT
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I want to see a pictographic representation of the pitches he's faced
a la that article on THT a while back that looked at Jack Cust’s struggles over the first few weeks.
That would at least tell us whether the problem is a hole in his swing. If it is, that’s probably a fixable (for him, since he’s a good natural hitter) issue.
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by PaulThomas on
May 22, 2008 1:48 PM PDT
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I think he's just trying to hit homers.
Kinda like Mark Ellis did in 2006 after his insane second half of 2005.
Once he corrected it, he started hitting more line drives, and returned to being an above average hitter at 2B last season.
That’s just my feeling with Barton. He’s trying too hard to be a super-duper star.
by mikev on
May 22, 2008 1:49 PM PDT
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You're right, the swing looks 'loopy' now. Whether that's because
he’s injured or trying to hit homers is anyone’s guess.
by OldhamA on
May 22, 2008 2:09 PM PDT
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Well
he seems to be taking bigger swings, which is sort of what you were getting at, I think.
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by mikeA on
May 22, 2008 10:04 AM PDT
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I agree
Barton seems to be swinging for the fences every time. Swinging for the fences is a bad habit. His swing looks longer, thus there are more holes in his swing. I wonder if he reads the Scouting Reports, questioning whether Barton will ever hit for Power? He needs to get back to driving the ball to all fields.
by Colorado Fan on
May 22, 2008 10:18 AM PDT
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I'd like to see...
any scouting reports saying Barton WILL hit for power…because I think those started disappearing the year after he got to the organization for Mulder.
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by SwampyD on
May 22, 2008 11:45 AM PDT
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He suddenly went from
His peak seemed to go from Giambi with a better eye for the zone… to Olerud with less defense.
Gotta love scouts. But remember than R. Sweeney was the Top Prospect in the ChiSox org. 2 yrs ago and they thought he could be a power guy, and when that stopped happening he crashed. Similar story so far… we’ll see.
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by gdub171 on
May 22, 2008 12:09 PM PDT
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He's adjusting to ML pitching
Adjust expectations accordingly. He’ll be fine, he has nothing left to prove in AAA.
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by Joey C. on
May 22, 2008 12:32 AM PDT
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Looks like he's adjusting to a .180 average.
Didn’t prove that much at sac. —no power and average was not overwhelming.
by BlueMoon on
May 22, 2008 6:59 AM PDT
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9 Hrs, 5 3B, and 38 2B is definitely not "no power"
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by mikeA on
May 22, 2008 10:06 AM PDT
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yeah, but it's not .330 with 27 dingers either...
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by Gaijin_Suketto on
May 22, 2008 10:49 AM PDT
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And he had 4 HR in the AAA playoffs
and 4 HR in the majors; his season total last year was something like 17 in 150 games.
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by PaulThomas on
May 22, 2008 11:03 AM PDT
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He also had only one REALLY good month before he got called up, the rest of his season wasn’t very impressive.
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by DMOAS on
May 22, 2008 12:04 PM PDT
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This makes absolutely no impression on me
unless you can somehow demonstrate that all the decent pitchers took that month off or something.
Why should I discount performance over a season just because much of it was concentrated in a relatively short period?
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by PaulThomas on
May 22, 2008 12:18 PM PDT
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I view this as an outlier...
or are you going to say that Linden’s performance in an extreme case of small sample size in the spring should somehow be weighted heavily. Granted, in Linden’s case he wasn’t facing the best of the best, but still.
Here’s how I see it. His numbers aren’t great overall, they’re good/respectable. But it took a month of insane, unduplicable play in order to raise his numbers up to that good level. That tells me overall, he actually wasn’t that impressive. If you took a random month of play from him, odds are you’re not going to be impressed. I don’t think highly on a player who can only play good for a month and then is pedestrian or worse the rest of the time.
Now, that being said, i’m not saying he’s not ready for the majors or he won’t be good/great. I’m just saying overall, i’ve seen little to get too thrilled with abilities right now and that needs a lot more seasoning. Does he have a future, absolutely, but he still has a lot to prove.
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by DMOAS on
May 22, 2008 12:56 PM PDT
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That makes no sense whatsoever
He had two great months last year, and one terrible month last year, one terrible month this year.
Why are the two great months “outliers” but not the two terrible months? Take out those two months, and he looks like a hall of famer! What difference does it make how his performance was spread out?
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by mikeA on
May 22, 2008 1:05 PM PDT
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At AAA
he only had one. One of the “two” was his cup of coffee in the majors against pitchers who had little to no scouting against him. Two months where he as slightly below average, two month where he was average and one where he’s a hall of famer. And it wasn’t a progression. This suggests to me, if nothing else, that he’s inconsistent. The variation in the numbers are extreme. Like I said earlier, i’m not saying he isn’t ready or for that matter in the group of people saying he should be sent down. I’m just saying looking at his numbers at AAA, I wasn’t that impressed.
If it were me, i would have liked to see him show a little more consistency at AAA before calling him up. BUT, now that he’s here, let him work on it here.
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by DMOAS on
May 22, 2008 1:27 PM PDT
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He was inconsistent, yes
but it makes no more sense to throw out his June than it does to throw out his godawful April.
Consistency is seriously overrated in hitters. I mean, seriously overrated. One of the reasons Pat Burrell gets so unfairly slagged (the other being his largely irrelevant strikeout totals) is that he is inconsistent.
A run is a run. It really does not matter when in the season you score it.
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by PaulThomas on
May 22, 2008 1:52 PM PDT
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and they, to him
The best ones battle this adjustment of both sides and come out on top (and in baseball, on top means failing 70% of the time anyways).
I’m still confident however that he will have a solid second half. Having “professional hitters” like Frank Thomas and Mike Sweeney around him can only have a positive effect, even if they take away his playing time.
Handing a spot to a younger player can sometimes be the worst thing for him, and hopefully with Barton the best thing will be to make him earn it.
But if you really want someone to blame for his struggles – it’s me. I get his name on a jersey, so he begins slumping as a result.
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by oakland ehs on
May 22, 2008 9:27 AM PDT
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Not really a supprise
the org didn’t seem to want to give Linden a chance, despite our offensive struggles. So they probably did him a favor and are letting him try to latch onto another team, maybe even his former team the Gnats.
by Zonis on May 21, 2008 8:18 PM PDT 0 recs
I have the opposite reaction
Linden is guy who has somewhat of a good minor league track record as far as I know. And he was mashing this year, albeit in Spring ball and AAA. It seems to me he deserved at least half the shot that Dan Johnson got – about 1 1/2 years of pro ball. But for some reason, his big mouth is why he’s released? Yet that makes no sense to me – see e.g. Jose Guillen, Milton Bradley. Granted these guys were solid MLB hitters but the principle still applies, giving someone a shot despite their attitude problem. All of this is equally confusing and surprising given the OF production so far. And it’s not like Linden would’ve been expensive.
So to me I wonder what the real story is.
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Strictly IMO and total speculation
without seeing a single RCats game, but Linden probably saw the crowded conditions, and decided to try elsewhere. Big mouth, maybe, but that is a side issue IMO, not a determining issue.
After all, I doubt Linden is a defensive upgrade to many of the possible outfield combos. Though he is hitting well, he has failed at ML level on a couple of occasions. He thinks he is capable of ML ball, so let him find out for himself.
I’d give it 50-50 that he asked himself for a release.
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May 21, 2008 9:28 PM PDT
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DiNardo
The A’s had a roster space open on the Major League club, nobody is hitting, and the extra spot goes to a journeyman long reliever whose presence isn’t necessary, instead of someone whose hitting might help the team. I’d say that was the writing on the wall for Linden, if indeed he chose to ask to opt out.
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Wasn't
Linden batting 1.000 during ST? Ahh….the all important ST rampage.
by passionately objective on May 21, 2008 10:02 PM PDT 0 recs
I would still rather see Linden in LF than Brown
I think this team needs a new face or something soon or they’re gonna keep struggling. Maybe a new warm body will fire everyone up a little like when Frank arrived. At least Linden plays average to above average defense IIRC (I believe he was a CF coming up?) and has some upside. I’ve been saying it for a while now, RBI numbers or not, Brown needs to go. Maybe now that Linden is gone we can search for a LF on the FA market, perhaps a guy with a track record of very good offense and that is still looking for a job to replace Brown? Please?
Or am I stuck holding my breath until Buck gains an extra year of club control, CarGo goes back to mashing the ball, and Chavvy gets a couple more doubles/HRs (Chavvy 1-2, Buck 2-3 today!)? I really want this club to do something….even more than I want Brown’s release (hell bring back Putnam instead of Brown).
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by vignette17 on May 21, 2008 10:23 PM PDT 0 recs
Statistically, Brown plays average to above average defense himself
He seems to have a truly unique talent for screwing up at key moments and/or in spectacularly memorable fashion. He’s like the reverse Jeter.
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by PaulThomas on
May 21, 2008 11:21 PM PDT
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Brown's offensive and defensive
clutchness evens out. Clutch hitters = unclutch fielders?
by ervance on
May 21, 2008 11:28 PM PDT
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but he isn't a clutch fielder
don’t try and bring that up just because you and everyone at ESPN saw him make a few running and jumping plays or crowd catches against the Red Sox.
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by oakland ehs on
May 22, 2008 9:29 AM PDT
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Brown's fielding
Is it just me or does Emil have an inability to properly pick up a ball off the field? I know I remember a few games where a freaking rolling ball bounces off his glove. Looks like stuff I’d see in co-ed softball. I like the anti-Jeter reference, but I certainly remember all of Brown’s bad plays, even though I know he hasn’t been terrible overall.
Of course, my wife is starting to worry about my irrational hatred for Emil, which began in March and reached it’s peak Tuesday night.
by rageon on
May 22, 2008 7:08 AM PDT
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he almost gave up a triple/inside-the-park HR the other night misjudging a grounder to RF
My guess: either he needs LASIK, or he’s just never spent much time practicing his fielding.
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by monkeyball on
May 22, 2008 9:35 AM PDT
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Am I the only one here who actually has an objective take on Brown?
I don’t think he deserved the plaudits he was getting when he was “Mr. RBI Man,” but I don’t think he deserves the virulent contempt he’s getting around here lately either.
He’s a major league baseball player. I’m going to go out on a limb here and guess that, yes, he probably has spent quite a bit of time learning to field a baseball.
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by PaulThomas on
May 22, 2008 9:51 AM PDT
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Well, sure...
but he’s unusually terrible at what should be easy fielding tasks like picking up the ball.
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by mikeA on
May 22, 2008 10:07 AM PDT
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Well you know I have had this discussion enough, but I am tired of banging my head
against the AN wall.
by theblackpearl on
May 22, 2008 10:15 AM PDT
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I agree with you about Emil
The A’s signed him after failing to reach an agreement with Shannon Stewart. Brown may not be as good at reading and catching balls as Stewart, but he has a better arm and isn’t limited to playing left field. Also, he has more pop in his bat. Stewart was once a much better player than Brown. But I suspect (assuming Stewart would be performing similarly for the A’s this year as he is for Toronto) the A’s have gotten more out of Brown this season than they would have with Stewart.
by OaklandSi on
May 22, 2008 10:21 AM PDT
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But it's precisely because of Stewart's crappy arm
that he actually hits the cut off man. Brown “airmails” everyone – what can Brown do for you?
by oaktownmario on
May 22, 2008 1:01 PM PDT
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I'm actually very...
...rationale in my irrationality. I hate him for no good reason—but at least I recognize that.
by rageon on
May 22, 2008 12:53 PM PDT
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Brown is a major league baseball player
But he’s not a starter/#5 hitter on a good team. And he’s starting, and until recently was hitting 5th. I’d be fine if he were a LHP platoon guy/5th OF. I just don’t like him getting so much playing time.
As for his defense: Again, he’s so similar to Jay Payton. He’s actually pretty good out there, but at the one moment you figure he’s got the play made he falls down, the ball hits him and bounces somewhere, and 19 runs score on one play.
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by thejd44 on
May 22, 2008 1:44 PM PDT
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And my take on him is basically the same
Seems like a decent guy, OK as a bench/platoon outfielder, really not someone I want starting and hitting 5th for my team, prone to hapless defensive sequences which make him seem worse than he is.
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by PaulThomas on
May 22, 2008 2:09 PM PDT
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Was he signed to start?
I don’t believe so. I believe he was signed as a LHP platoon guy/4th or 5th OF. He’s only in the starting lineup some much because he got off to a hot/lucky start and Buck got hurt. Once Buck returns I’ve got to believe that Brown returns to the role for which he was signed for.
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how is that last sentence "objective"?
I’ll be the first to admit that I have an anti-Emil bias, but it’s patently obvious to the naked eye that Emil has trouble “closing the deal” in the late stages of tracking fly balls and ground balls in the outfield. His routes aren’t bad, he has decent (albeit unremarkable) speed, his initial reads and jumps seem to be OK—but when the ball gets within about 20-50 feet of him, he seems to either lose sight of it, or to find himself consistently about 5-10 feet short of where the ball is headed.
Sure, maybe, as a professional who takes pride in his performance, he puts in lots of extra hours of practice we don’t hear about. But, media coverage being what it is, I think it’s a safe assumption that if Emil was doing that, we’d have heard about it from the Slussers of the A’s-o-sphere (as in, quotes from coaches/teammates about how modest, RBI-machine Emil also works his hiney off to be the best defender he can be, etc.).
To assume that, both absent positive evidence/testimony that he does practice his defense and in the face of his obvious defensive deficiencies, he does in fact practice really hard is to go on faith, not positivism.
That said, I think the likeliest answer is that he simply has a vision deficiency and has actual physical challenges in tracking the ball as it nears him.
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by monkeyball on
May 22, 2008 1:46 PM PDT
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You mean stories like this
Pregame activity for day games after night games generally is light for players, but Geren made sure Cust and Emil Brown both shagged their share of flies in left field before Wednesday’s matinee. Brown lost a fly ball in the lights in left that provided the Rays’ winning runs Tuesday night, and Cust also lost a ball in the lights Monday night. “It helped,” Cust said. “I saw the ball and how it was carrying.” Brown doubled twice and had an RBI Wednesday
by theblackpearl on
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exactly
That’s clearly ex post facto and under duress. That’s a “Geren is doing his job being a hardass as necessary” anecdote, not a “Emil is going the extra mile on his own” anecdote.
And FWIW, I think Cust is just as culpable as Emil (probably more so, since he’s so much more demonstrably below acceptable level defensively, and his career has actually suffered from it).
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by monkeyball on
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TBP, just to be clear ...
... as per my inclusion of Cust in my response to OldhamA, I hope that I’m not (unconsciously) supporting a certain stereotypical “criticism” when I discuss Emil’s defense. I certainly don’t intend to.
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by monkeyball on
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No Monkeyball, as you have seen, although I am not afraid to let it
be known my race. I don’t think every criticism, is racially motivated. I know he is responsible for some terrible baseball at times.
by theblackpearl on
May 22, 2008 3:48 PM PDT
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I'm with you on Brown
I just didn’t want him on the team to start with. Billy prepared me all off-season to expect a year of rookies and growing pains, so I was confused and a little miffed at the signing of Brown and the AB’s he was going to take away from the young guys.
Sure, the A’s probably wouldn’t have won nearly as much in the short term… actually, I’m not even going to qualify that—they definitely would not have won as much—but I would have preferred an OF with Sweeney and Buck at the corners and Denorfia in center, Cust at DH.
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by Joey C. on
May 22, 2008 2:43 PM PDT
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Brown was signed before the Chicago trade, and before signing Fiorentino,
so there was no young OF’er ready, unless you count Putnam and with Buck’s injuries and struggles, that is exactly what you would have, because Cargon was hurt in ST also.
by theblackpearl on
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Sure, I guess
My thought process was: Haren trade + “youth movement” = don’t sign marginal veterans
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by Joey C. on
May 23, 2008 12:31 PM PDT
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You mean he's straight?
Ooooh.
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by Ozzz on
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No, it means
he takes crabs from you.
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