Former A's Pitchers: Hudson-Harden on Saturday

by madmongoose on May 12, 2008 12:17 AM PDT

In honor of the Ol' Bulldog-- and in anticipation of what could be an extremely memorable game in Hotlanta on Saturday night, here are the former A's-- mound version:

1. LOOGYS

Micah Bowie (COLO) 0-1 9.00 ERA+ 50 (remember that great extra inning win in the Bronx where Bowie pitched at least a couple of innings?)

Ron Mahay (KC) 1-0 2.65 162 (One of the two A's scabs (or replacement players) that I'm aware of-- the other, of course, was Cory Lidle. RIP.)

2. Journeymen

Luis Vizcaino (COLO) 0-0 27.00 17

Juan Cruz (ARIZ) 1-0 1.98 225

Keiichi Yabu (SF) 2-2 2.45 170

Franklyn German (TEX) 1-0 0.56 732 (ERA went up some today)

Chad Bradford (BAL) 2-1 1.32 319 (Nice to see Chadford and Juan Cruz doing well)

3. Journeymen Starters

Mark Redman (COLO) 2-3 7.84 58

Ted Lilly (CUBS) 3-4 5.23 84

Kenny Rogers (DET) 3-3 5.82 72

Esteban Loaiza (LAD) 1-2 5.63 77

Pretty brutal collective line here. Why does Redman still have a job?

4. Quality Starters

Dan Haren (ARIZ) 4-2 3.04 146

Aaron Harang (CIN) 1-5 3.09 142

Jeremy Bonderman (DET) 2-4 4.80 87

5. Closers (Former, that is)

Jason isringhausen (SL) 1-4 7.47 55

Arthur Rhodes (SEA) 1-0 3.86 103

Octavio Dotel (CWS) 1-1 3.14 138

Anyone heard/seen anything about Billy Koch lately? His major league career ended in 2004

6. Big Three

Mark Mulder (SL) -------

Barry Zito (SF) 0-7 6.95 60

Tim Hudson (ATL) 5-2 2.90 139

Quick show of hands from all those who knew that of the five principal pitching prospects that were raised in this organization but then dealt elsewhere, the current value would be:

1. Hudson 2. Harang 3. Bonderman 4. Zito 5. Mulder-- and the only reason Zito would outrank Mulder is that he was healthy and Mulder wasn't

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Can't Wait.

I’m so pumped for this series, I’ll be at all three games in ATL. I vividly remember back in 05’ when Oakland came in they were like 12 games below .500, and after getting swept in Washington, Chavez apparently had a team meeting on the bus on the way to the airport. Chavy then proceeded to go off in the series hitting 3HR’s in 3 days and going 5-5 on the final game with 2 of those HR’s. It totally turned the season around. It’s a little disappointing he won’t be there this year for an encore.

What about Barry?
"Barry who?" Forst said, and I felt like I was in the middle of a knock-knock joke.

by KMoAsFan on May 12, 2008 12:45 AM PDT 0 recs

If both pitchers perform well this could shape up as one of those

“games to remember” for a long time. I excited to watch.

witty remark

by dtownmbrown on May 12, 2008 1:12 AM PDT 0 recs

I’ll be driving up from Mississippi for the series. I can’t wait!

by Mississippi A's Fan on May 12, 2008 5:50 AM PDT 0 recs

Mulder

has flat-lined.

by Sardog94 on May 12, 2008 8:18 AM PDT 0 recs

your title almost looks prophetic

“former A’s pitchers: Hudson-Harden”

So far Harden is a current A’s pitcher…but who knows what lies ahead?

by OaklandSi on May 12, 2008 8:30 AM PDT 0 recs

Juan Cruz

I always had an unnatural man-crush on Juan Cruz. His stuff was pure nasty, it’s just that he could never keep his head in the game long enough, at least with the A’s, to be a dominant pitcher. I think there was some AAA game for the Rivercats when he struck out 18 batters or so.

by sec119 on May 12, 2008 8:44 AM PDT 0 recs

Why does Redman still have a job?

Just proves PaulThomas’ point from another diary: Left-handed, with a pulse…

"God doesn't pay attention to your cute little hypotheticals." -- Jeff from LL

by oblique on May 12, 2008 9:04 AM PDT 0 recs

SO FREAKIN EXCITED

about the potential harden vs. hudson matchup!!

battle of two of my fave pitchers!!

""These guys are a different breed of ballclub." - Twins manager Ron Gardenhire on the A's

by gotgreen on May 12, 2008 9:15 AM PDT 0 recs

I miss Huddy

It will be good to see him on an A’s broadcast again :)

by jeffro on May 12, 2008 9:59 AM PDT 0 recs

I don't know if it's really accurate to say that Harang was "raised in the A's organization" ...

he started with the Rangers and pitched more games for their minor league teams, before being called up, than ours … nor is it really accurate to say that Bonderman was, either—while virtually his entire Minor League career was spent in High-A Modesto, that’s only because the Tigers wanted to waste his service time allowing him to be raised in the Majors.

But I think it’s pretty clear, Beane knows when to cut bait on a pitcher …

"It's for your own good. Big strong Devo knows whats best for Poppy" -- Mossback

by devo on May 12, 2008 10:00 AM PDT 0 recs

Actually....

he pitched more games in our minors than theirs. Basically he threw for texas in rookie league and A ball; for the A’s in all or part of 3 seasons in AA and AAA. 37 starts for them; 50 for us. And if Bonderman was only “raised” for one full season, it was in our organization, not theirs.

by madmongoose on May 12, 2008 10:19 AM PDT up 0 recs

Key phrase:

“before being called up” ...

"It's for your own good. Big strong Devo knows whats best for Poppy" -- Mossback

by devo on May 12, 2008 8:29 PM PDT up 0 recs

Really, though ...

I think really what it is is an example of you-can’t-have-it-both-waysism …

"It's for your own good. Big strong Devo knows whats best for Poppy" -- Mossback

by devo on May 12, 2008 8:31 PM PDT up 0 recs

The decision to promote Bonderman

has to have been one of the odder ones in recent memory. Had they taken him along normally, he’d be in his 1st arb year or even a Super Two at this point and still be cheap for years to come, even if he isn’t that good. Instead he’s already a year away from making full free agent money.

Your 2008 Athletics: It's Nothing Personal.

by PaulThomas on May 12, 2008 10:30 AM PDT up 0 recs

Word!

But I think it’s pretty clear, Beane knows when to cut bait on a pitcher …

I think that’s one of Beane’s strongest points as a GM… he knows when to let a player go.

Some read stats. Others actually watch the game.

by UncleLeo on May 12, 2008 2:03 PM PDT up 0 recs

Mulder or Zito

I pretty sure I would rather have Mulder’s Contract on the books.

by Colorado Fan on May 12, 2008 10:12 AM PDT 0 recs

Sweet!

I’m stoked! I just got MLB.tv so now I can drink large amounts of beer and watch every A’s game here in Colorado!

My religion is A'slamic.

by WhoNeedsReligionWhenYaGotBaseball on May 12, 2008 11:02 AM PDT 0 recs

Billy Koch

I think I saw him in a teaser commerical for a Channel 2 news broadcast after he retired. Something about a mysterious illness, I’m not sure if he had it or one of his family had it. I never saw the actual report but i remember thinking, wow how did a guy that threw 100 mph suddenly fall off the mlb earth? Maybe he was on steroids or some other banned substance? that could just be my imagination.

You have to include smiley faces - Poppy
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by micdog2001 on May 12, 2008 11:45 AM PDT 0 recs

I heard the same thing.

Some weird disease with fibers coming out of his skin. Apparently there is debate in the medical community if this is a legitimate illness. I don’t remember what they call it but apparently both Koch and his wife suffer from it.

by Flash G on May 12, 2008 12:21 PM PDT up 0 recs

Fibromyalgia?

I believe it’s a debatable explanation for chronic fatigue syndrome. So, essentially he got chronic fatigue syndrome.

Hey, at least it’s better than mitochondrial disease.

Your 2008 Athletics: It's Nothing Personal.

by PaulThomas on May 12, 2008 12:30 PM PDT up 0 recs

No, he has a horrible-crazy-mystery disease

http://www.ktvu.com/news/9264350/detail.html
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Morgellons

The A's colors are green and gold.

by mikeA on May 12, 2008 12:37 PM PDT up 0 recs

Discussion via AN's shiny new search function!

http://www.athleticsnation.com/2006/5/24/111332/444#435317

The A's colors are green and gold.

by mikeA on May 12, 2008 12:49 PM PDT up 0 recs

100 mph

It’s not so much the speed of the ball as where it goes after it has left the pitcher’s hand. You get all revved up when Koch threw his warm up heat, but the party was over after the batter stepped in.

Enjoy the game

by DCinWC on May 12, 2008 4:08 PM PDT up 0 recs

Damian Miller

Was a replacement player as well during the strike. He was also a good catcher. In his first week he threw a runner out at 2nd base and made a play at the plate. I loved Ramon but you didn’t see much of that during his time behind the plate. No one was ever out at home.

Enjoy the game

by DCinWC on May 12, 2008 4:16 PM PDT 0 recs

on the other hand, some A's pitchers didn't like

his pitch calling, according to some articles after that season. One reason Melhuse played a fair amount (besides the fact that Miller wasn’t an ironman) was that a number of pitchers specifically asked for Melhuse.

by OaklandSi on May 12, 2008 4:40 PM PDT up 0 recs

Harden's Chance to Prove his worth

We are looking so forward to seeing the matchup in Atlanta- we’ll be there cheering on Harden but also hoping Hudson does well. I’m a very big Hudson fan (even named my dog after him) and it broke my A’s heart to see him traded a few years back. When I think of what we got for him (NOTHING), it makes me sick. But hey, that’s the way the ball sinks sometimes… Go A’s- kick the Braves A*s in Atlanta, but show Hudson some mercy.

The greenmachine

by greenmachine on May 13, 2008 5:24 AM PDT 0 recs