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Macha was right: A's 12, Rangers 6

OK, I'll admit it: I'm emotionally and financially invested in Rich Harden not succeeding. (For those of you who missed it, mikeA and I made a wager last year that Harden wouldn't reach 10 more starts + saves for the A's. As of today, mikeA's only 5 starts/saves away from winning.)

But he just really didn't look good at all today. Yes, his fastball was lively, and he could increase or decrease speeds on it and his changeup very effectively.

But, as I mentioned during the game, Harden was pitching straight up-and-down, not flexing his back or legs, and generating all his power from his waist-up. Consequently, he couldn't locate any pitches below batters' waists, and eventually struggled with his overall control and got hit hard when he had to lower his target to hit the zone.

It looked to me as if Harden was struggling through some stiffness in his hamstrings or his back (and genuinely his back, not the "back" muscle pull as the A's tried to convince us regarding his latest arm/shoulder problems). Now, that could, ironically, be not a bad omen for his next start--if he was just not warmed up properly, and avoided straining his arm, he could bounce back nicely in his next start or two.

Sidney Ponson, after a really awful first inning, tossed a Blantonesque struggling-effectively-through-lousy-stuff performance at the A's. It was only when the A's got into the Rangers lousy (and, ironically, given their recent string of shutouts) and overextended bullpen that the offense really piled on. It was very good to see Cust continue his solid stroke and exasperating patience, Frank and Lil' Sweeney make some solid contact, and Barton finally go yard again. The indifferent offensive performances in Arlington the last couple days had been pretty dispiriting.

And I know I've been down on Crosby, but he really was the Panther excellent-fundamentals-and-focus-leading-to-good-outcomes-player of the game today: he had some nice-looking ABs, some really hard-hit pitches, the heads-up steal of home when Ellis got himself hung out to dry, and the tagout of Saltalamacchia on Salty's steal attempt. That latter play was pretty sweet: yes, Salty overslid by just a bit, but Crosby stayed right on the play, and basically shoved Salty's hand off the bag to tag him out.

As Nico noted, Embree was the right decision in the 7th and 8th by Geren, and rewarded the manager's confidence by shutting down the Rangers when a run or two could have really gotten Texas back into the game.

This was a really nice win for the offense, the 'pen, and the team as a whole to regain some confidence in the middle of a touch road trip.

As for Harden ... who knows. Ken and Vince were talking in the late innings about how tomorrow and his next start are really the only way to judge Harden's start today; while I think that's true to a degree, I think we can also pretty definitively say that Harden didn't exactly look "right" today--but he didn't really play a role in the team's success or failure. And that's essentially what we should expect from him.

"Breaking" news reported by Buan just now: Buan will be breaking some news about Ellis and Chavez.

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confirmed: Chavvy to Arizona today

Thursday he’s supposed to begin his rehab assignment with Sacramento

by OaklandSi on May 11, 2008 4:18 PM PDT reply reply   0 recs

Did Buan mention whether Chavez would be playing 3rd, or just hitting?

And who loses playing time at Sacto when he’s in the lineup?

"And Julio Franco is batting right-handed!" -- Wayne Hagin, A's radio play-by-play, mid-80s

by Nick on May 11, 2008 4:54 PM PDT to parent up reply reply   0 recs

he didn't say anything

but since the A’s told Chavvy that they didn’t want to activate him until he was ready to play 3rd, I’m assuming it’s to play third at Sacto.

by OaklandSi on May 11, 2008 5:01 PM PDT to parent up reply reply   0 recs

Thanks!

"And Julio Franco is batting right-handed!" -- Wayne Hagin, A's radio play-by-play, mid-80s

by Nick on May 11, 2008 5:03 PM PDT to parent up reply reply   0 recs

Chavy said a day or two ago

that he would DH initially with the Rivercats, then play 3rd after a few games.

by Zonis on May 11, 2008 5:07 PM PDT to parent up reply reply   0 recs

confirmed: Chavvy to Arizona today

Thursday he’s supposed to begin his rehab assignment with Sacramento

by OaklandSi on May 11, 2008 4:18 PM PDT reply reply   0 recs

did we get drew or reynolds in return?

"Not in your wildest alcoholic nightmare would you ever imagines such events unfolding!" Bill King

by Buck Turgidson on May 11, 2008 4:30 PM PDT to parent up reply reply   0 recs

ha..I wish...

nah, he’s just going to the A’s training complex in Arizona

by OaklandSi on May 11, 2008 4:34 PM PDT to parent up reply reply   0 recs

DARN IT!

"Not in your wildest alcoholic nightmare would you ever imagines such events unfolding!" Bill King

by Buck Turgidson on May 11, 2008 4:43 PM PDT to parent up reply reply   0 recs

mothers day

anyone know the a’s record on mothers day in the pink bat era?

A's v Giants "is kind of like the difference between going to see the Ramones and going to see the Bee Gees. A's fans will go see the Ramones." -BB 07/27/05

by xbhaskarx on May 11, 2008 4:19 PM PDT reply reply   0 recs

I believe it is 3-0

Beat the Yankees in 06, Cust walkoff last year.

The A's colors are green and gold.

by mikeA on May 11, 2008 4:20 PM PDT to parent up reply reply   0 recs

Ellis officially "day to day"

and I did not post twice—that was weird

by OaklandSi on May 11, 2008 4:19 PM PDT reply reply   0 recs

Strained hammie.

"God doesn't pay attention to your cute little hypotheticals." -- Jeff from LL

by oblique on May 11, 2008 4:21 PM PDT to parent up reply reply   0 recs

Damn.

pam5981: Patience is a virtue that I do not possess.
ohtobe21likehuston: But you're good at drinking and cussing. Two out of three ain't bad.

by pam5981 on May 11, 2008 4:27 PM PDT to parent up reply reply   0 recs

intriguing trilemma

Do the A’s:
- do nothing
- DL Ellis
- DL/demote someone else

Personally, I think it’d be a bad idea to operate with only 4 functional infielders … but I’m not sure what I’d do to make room for Petit if Ellis isn’t entirely debilitated.

The day off at least means that the A’s can wait 24-36 hours before deciding.

We're going to knock balls out of the country's park, for the home team, which is America. @('.')@

by monkeyball on May 11, 2008 4:32 PM PDT to parent up reply reply   0 recs

So he's going on the DL 8 days from now.

And we’re playing short-handed till then.

by WaddellCanseco on May 11, 2008 4:33 PM PDT to parent up reply reply   0 recs

I guess

Do running teams really suffer more muscle injuries than other teams?

I guess the guys who are prone to muscle injuries (yes, that’s you, Milton) don’t run that much… so it’s kind of self-reinforcing.

Your 2008 Athletics: It's Nothing Personal.

by PaulThomas on May 11, 2008 11:33 PM PDT to parent up reply reply   0 recs

crucial monkeyball bread update

Loaf came out great. I forgot to dust and slash the loaf, so it ain’t the prettiest batch ever, but it’s tasty and the crumb is very light for sourdough.

We're going to knock balls out of the country's park, for the home team, which is America. @('.')@

by monkeyball on May 11, 2008 4:33 PM PDT reply reply   0 recs

Congratulations!

I’ve been following your baking career since the game thread.

by WaddellCanseco on May 11, 2008 4:36 PM PDT to parent up reply reply   0 recs

{kisses baking mitts, points to sky}

This was really a team effort today—the yeast was really active today, even though it’d been sitting in the fridge for 6 months, the starter culture really did its job, atmospheric conditions were favorable, the oven was nice and steady, the cats followed their better natures and didn’t mess with the loaf while it was rising on the counter. I was just fortunate to be part of it, Ray.

We're going to knock balls out of the country's park, for the home team, which is America. @('.')@

by monkeyball on May 11, 2008 4:46 PM PDT to parent up reply reply   0 recs

You forgot to say that the starter really rose to the occasion

"And Julio Franco is batting right-handed!" -- Wayne Hagin, A's radio play-by-play, mid-80s

by Nick on May 11, 2008 4:51 PM PDT to parent up reply reply   0 recs

Starter quote:

“Hey, i was just happy to contribute.”

by Hot Cup Joe on May 11, 2008 4:56 PM PDT to parent up reply reply   0 recs

"I really had good gas today"

"And Julio Franco is batting right-handed!" -- Wayne Hagin, A's radio play-by-play, mid-80s

by Nick on May 11, 2008 5:03 PM PDT to parent up reply reply   0 recs

Nice - we miss Cliff Lee in the upcoming series.

pam5981: Patience is a virtue that I do not possess.
ohtobe21likehuston: But you're good at drinking and cussing. Two out of three ain't bad.

by pam5981 on May 11, 2008 4:43 PM PDT reply reply   0 recs

Maybe - if the double-header is rained out tomorrow

we could see Carmona and Lee. Go dryness!

I like Cindi. A. She never pretends to know more than she does. B. She has unbridled enthusiasm for her "Hotties," and isn't afraid to show it. -IM4Oakgal

by Nico on May 11, 2008 5:19 PM PDT to parent up reply reply   0 recs

Wow, the players are gonna smell pretty bad until then.

"And Julio Franco is batting right-handed!" -- Wayne Hagin, A's radio play-by-play, mid-80s

by Nick on May 11, 2008 5:37 PM PDT to parent up reply reply   0 recs

Unfortunately

this weekend’s deodorant storm passed just to the north.

"God doesn't pay attention to your cute little hypotheticals." -- Jeff from LL

by oblique on May 11, 2008 5:44 PM PDT to parent up reply reply   0 recs

Dry would be good.

pam5981: Patience is a virtue that I do not possess.
ohtobe21likehuston: But you're good at drinking and cussing. Two out of three ain't bad.

by pam5981 on May 11, 2008 6:30 PM PDT to parent up reply reply   0 recs

I heard only about 1/3 of the game, and saw very little

Was Harden throwing the ghost pitch and slider, or mainly the fastball and change today? Also, I’m wondering if some of the 2-out problems he had were related to some kind of mechanical problem pitching from the stretch. Did anyone see anything? I was surprised that he didn’t go to the windup in the 3rd with the bases loaded and 2 out, especially after Young’s visit to the mound.

"And Julio Franco is batting right-handed!" -- Wayne Hagin, A's radio play-by-play, mid-80s

by Nick on May 11, 2008 4:53 PM PDT reply reply   0 recs

I think he k'd Catalanotto on a spuckler

Mostly fastball/changeup, but some sliders and a nasty splitter to K Murphy to end the first.

I like Cindi. A. She never pretends to know more than she does. B. She has unbridled enthusiasm for her "Hotties," and isn't afraid to show it. -IM4Oakgal

by Nico on May 11, 2008 5:20 PM PDT to parent up reply reply   0 recs

He seemed to give up a really unusual number of 2-strike hits

"And Julio Franco is batting right-handed!" -- Wayne Hagin, A's radio play-by-play, mid-80s

by Nick on May 11, 2008 5:21 PM PDT to parent up reply reply   0 recs

Early on it was bad luck - bloop, bloop, bloop

Later on it was more like…pound, pound, pound.

Oops, sorry – Poochini shudders every time I say “pound”.

I like Cindi. A. She never pretends to know more than she does. B. She has unbridled enthusiasm for her "Hotties," and isn't afraid to show it. -IM4Oakgal

by Nico on May 11, 2008 8:22 PM PDT to parent up reply reply   0 recs

i sat behind home plate today

his slider was hanging and fast ball kept finishing high

by buckfan6 on May 11, 2008 5:11 PM PDT reply reply   0 recs

The A's should put Ellis on the DL regardless

Make sure he’s healthy, whatever. Don’t just wait wait wait. Ellis was in a slump till very recently

Call up Petit, put him at 2nd for a week or two. Or call up Melillo and see what he can do offensivly.

by Zonis on May 11, 2008 5:15 PM PDT reply reply   0 recs

Unless it's really minor I tend to agree

Between Melillo and Petit: I doubt options matter in either case. This would be Petit’s 1st option year AFAIK, and Melillo’s 2nd. The difference is that if we call up Melillo, he’d get more time at 2nd with Murphy as the infield backup, whereas with Petit up, Murphy would get 2nd and Petit would be the backup.

"And Julio Franco is batting right-handed!" -- Wayne Hagin, A's radio play-by-play, mid-80s

by Nick on May 11, 2008 5:20 PM PDT to parent up reply reply   0 recs

Small correction

This already is Melillo’s 2nd and Petit’s 1st option year. They’ve both been optioned to Sacramento (at the end of Spring Training, or whenever each guy got the official demotion). So, in that sense, the option year was already used on each so it doesn’t matter which one you call up now.

My vote is for Melillo just because I think he’s more suited for the up-and-down role, I’m not sure if Petit is ready for the majors, and if they think he’ll eventually be a major league regular calling him up for infrequent (or short-lived) playing time probably isn’t for the best. I doubt either guy makes a significant impact for 2 weeks.

http://bocropleasestopswingingatbadpitches.blogspot.com/

by thejd44 on May 11, 2008 5:52 PM PDT to parent up reply reply   0 recs

Has Petit played 2B?

Even if he has at some point, I wouldn’t ask someone to make his major league debut at a position he hasn’t been playing.

I like Cindi. A. She never pretends to know more than she does. B. She has unbridled enthusiasm for her "Hotties," and isn't afraid to show it. -IM4Oakgal

by Nico on May 11, 2008 8:23 PM PDT to parent up reply reply   0 recs

Yes

but not that much of it, especially this season.

If they call up Petit, they’d better put him in a starting role somewhere, though. No point in having him rot on the bench.

Your 2008 Athletics: It's Nothing Personal.

by PaulThomas on May 11, 2008 11:37 PM PDT to parent up reply reply   0 recs

I still don't understand your Petit love

But I agree that if he comes up, he should probably play. Then he can be Rey Ordonez and go away.

I’m not sure moving from short to second is a big deal at all. I don’t think he’d have trouble adjusting.

http://bocropleasestopswingingatbadpitches.blogspot.com/

by thejd44 on May 12, 2008 9:59 AM PDT to parent up reply reply   0 recs

Rey Ordonez played 9 MLB seasons...

That observation aside, Petit’s hitting has improved by leaps and bounds the last 2 seasons—and it’s legit improvement, reflected by his line drive rate. He’s hitting the ball well, not just getting lucky.

Probably a moot point; it sounds like they’re determined to behave in their usual moronic fashion w/r/t Ellis anyway (i.e. play him every other day until he aggravates the injury, then DL him 10 days later than they needed to).

Your 2008 Athletics: It's Nothing Personal.

by PaulThomas on May 12, 2008 10:10 AM PDT to parent up reply reply   0 recs

Twins are stomping Boston

5-0 in the 2nd against Wakefield.

We’re gonna win, Twins, we’re gonna score!
We’re gonna win, Twins, watch the baseball soar!
Knock out a home run, shout a hip hooray!
Cheer for the Minnesota Twins to-day! (And any day that they’re not playing Oakland)

The candy and the baseball all night long :)

by Englishmajor on May 11, 2008 5:49 PM PDT reply reply   0 recs

Got Wins?

We're going to knock balls out of the country's park, for the home team, which is America. @('.')@

by monkeyball on May 11, 2008 8:39 PM PDT to parent up reply reply   0 recs

Well that is just fanastic!

pam5981: Patience is a virtue that I do not possess.
ohtobe21likehuston: But you're good at drinking and cussing. Two out of three ain't bad.

by pam5981 on May 11, 2008 6:07 PM PDT to parent up reply reply   0 recs

Monroe has a pretty swing.

Wakefield’s struggling, down 7-1. Anytime the Red Sox lose it’s a good thing.

by OldhamA on May 11, 2008 6:18 PM PDT to parent up reply reply   0 recs

Unfortunately those nasty chowdaheads are fighting back

Currently 7-4 Twins.

The candy and the baseball all night long :)

by Englishmajor on May 11, 2008 6:33 PM PDT to parent up reply reply   0 recs

Coco F'ing Crisp

Just hit a home run. 8-6 Twins. Not as many Red Sox fans in the Metrodome as in many other places, apparently, but enough to make noise.

The candy and the baseball all night long :)

by Englishmajor on May 11, 2008 7:30 PM PDT to parent up reply reply   0 recs

Joe Morgan has an iPod?

I suppose I shouldn’t be surprised, he probably got his kids to load it for him, but it seems a bit too technologically advanced for Joe.

The candy and the baseball all night long :)

by Englishmajor on May 11, 2008 7:38 PM PDT to parent up reply reply   0 recs

He just believes there's meaning in the ordering of the songs

in random mode.

"God doesn't pay attention to your cute little hypotheticals." -- Jeff from LL

by oblique on May 11, 2008 9:15 PM PDT to parent up reply reply   0 recs

+1

The candy and the baseball all night long :)

by Englishmajor on May 12, 2008 8:41 PM PDT to parent up reply reply   0 recs

I know it's a couple weeks away

But who loses their job once Chavez is back? Since he’s on the 60-Day DL, somebody has to get DFAd. I wonder if that day a couple weeks from now will mark the end of the Dan Meyer era (except not really because who’s going to claim him?).

http://bocropleasestopswingingatbadpitches.blogspot.com/

by thejd44 on May 11, 2008 5:54 PM PDT reply reply   0 recs

You don't think it'll solve itself between now and the end of May?

Unfortunately, it probably will.

I like Cindi. A. She never pretends to know more than she does. B. She has unbridled enthusiasm for her "Hotties," and isn't afraid to show it. -IM4Oakgal

by Nico on May 11, 2008 8:24 PM PDT to parent up reply reply   0 recs

It probably will

Because that’s, like, 3-4 Harden starts away and by then he’ll have swallowed his own tongue and choked to death or something.

But, given a miracle or something, I just wonder what might happen. Obviously the A’s are thinking about it, so we may as well think about it, too.

http://bocropleasestopswingingatbadpitches.blogspot.com/

by thejd44 on May 12, 2008 10:01 AM PDT to parent up reply reply   0 recs

My guess is Jeff Gray is waived from the 40 man

I mean, has anybody ever actually seen Jeff Gray in person? Does he exist?

by mikev on May 12, 2008 11:00 AM PDT to parent up reply reply   0 recs

Kiko

Didn’t KenKo say KiKo would be ready? I think that may be a bigger problem.

by Future Ed on May 12, 2008 11:07 AM PDT to parent up reply reply   0 recs

he's already pitching at AAA

and is expected to be ready before the end of May.

There’s a second possibility for Kiko, besides knocking someone else off the 40-man, I think. He could be traded, much as Bradford was as soon as he was deemed recovered from back surgery, adn eligible to go off the DL.

by OaklandSi on May 12, 2008 1:20 PM PDT to parent up reply reply