All's Well That Ends Well(s)
by Nico on Apr 8, 2008 7:47 PM PDT
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PrintA's 9, Jays 8 Ryan Sweeney's RBI triple in the 9th broke an 8-8 tie, as the A's survived a see-saw battle to outlast Toronto, 9-8. The A's led 6-3 early only to be tied 6-6, and saw an 8-6 lead evaporate on Frank Thomas' 2-run HR in the bottom of the 8th.
On Opening Night in Tokyo, the A's snatched defeat from the jaws of victory and when that happens you just try to remember that there will be other days where you could lose - but don't. There were so many positives to tonight's win - the season's most exciting game to date - that I can almost forgive Bob Geren for trotting out Alan Embree (that would be "winning pitcher Alan Embree") to start the 8th inning, when arguably any other choice, from leaving in Foulke for two more hitters, to bringing in Casilla, to using Street for the heart of the order in the 8th and asking Embree to handle the 9th, would have made more sense. What it takes to help me let go of that is when:
* Kurt Suzuki continues to look like the most accomplished hitter in the league this side of...Ryan Sweeney. Nice to have two rookies provide five hits in the 8-9 holes, with quality at bat after quality at bat.
* Travis Buck gets a hit!!!!!! (And then he gets another one!)
* Huston Street looks like his old self, hitting 92-93 MPH on the gun with life on it, and showcasing the signature slider with good location and late bite.
But once again, the story is Ryan Sweeney. My mom and I have a running joke, because initially she had trouble keeping the two Sweeneys straight. So I explained that "the good Sweeney" was right-handed and stockily built, and "the bad Sweeney" was left-handed and thin. So it was funny when Ryan went 4/4 the other day:
"Wait, which Sweeney was that?"
"Bad Sweeney again!"
"I thought so! Woo hoo, Bad Sweeney!"
Love me some Bad Sweeney!
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He's a blogger
Obviously he does.
Your 2008 Athletics: It's Nothing Personal.
I wish - she rarely lets me up there. :-(
I like Cindi. A. She never pretends to know more than she does. B. She has unbridled enthusiasm for her "Hotties," and isn't afraid to show it. -IM4Oakgal
Thank you Nico
I've been looking for a Ryan Sweeney nickname, and it's the best thing to cap off an exciting win:
Bad Sweeney it is.
The glare was not practiced. I would get into the game situations, and when that happens, there comes a level of concentration that most can only imagine but can never achieve. You become what you are doing, and that is what you see on my face. -Dave Stewart
by Hegenberger Road on Apr 8, 2008 7:54 PM PDT reply actions
i've been calling 'em Baby Sweeney and Papa Sweeney...
ans Baby Sweeney is looking good!!
Finished with my woman 'cause she couldn't help me with my mind...
by diaryofmac10 on Apr 8, 2008 10:37 PM PDT up reply actions
one of them really needs to be ...
The Demon Batter of Hegenberger Road.
And what did we do once we discovered a rift in the fourth dimension? We launched a monkey into it. @('.')@
I'm thinking Sweeng 1 and Sweeng 2
The meaning of life is not so much 'found,' as it is 'made.' --Opus
by The Dogfather on Apr 9, 2008 8:27 AM PDT up reply actions
Someone needs to break into Geren's office
Find the page that says "We lead, 7th inning Foulke, 8th inning Embree, 9th inning Street", and burn it.
"Evidently, a large number of people said, 'We really need more vermin at the ballpark, Artie.'" - Nick (AN), 10/7/07
I would bet that comes from the front office
I remember talking to several people in the front office and Geren himself who said that Embree isn't a true LOOGY and that he's almost as good against righties as he is against lefties.
by Tyler Bleszinski on Apr 8, 2008 9:09 PM PDT up reply actions
Given that he has established he can close,
you can bring Street in to handle the righty heart of the order and then give Embree the 9th. Or you can let Foulke throw more than 6 pitches and put in Embree for Overbay. Or you can go to Casilla. The only really bad move, when you have two power-hitting righties who eat up LHPs, fastballs, and especially both, is to do what Geren did. It was really the only bad move to be made out of many options.
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He's not, though
and they know that. He's good enough to not be a loogy, but he has a slightly higher than average split for his career, and higher than that the past few years, and they know that....
The A's colors are green and gold.
I was cheering for Zooks in rhe 9th
Before he got his hit. Then I called a double for Sweeney, who stretched it out.
It really is a sweet game. Let's Go A's!
Classic astroturf triple
Once that ball got past Rios they have no chance.
"Evidently, a large number of people said, 'We really need more vermin at the ballpark, Artie.'" - Nick (AN), 10/7/07
But a closer play than it needed to be.
I hope someone took advantage of the "coachable moment:" Run first, let up later."
The meaning of life is not so much 'found,' as it is 'made.' --Opus
by The Dogfather on Apr 9, 2008 8:59 AM PDT up reply actions
Sweeney doesn't run ...
... he lopes. Man, that kid has long legs.
And what did we do once we discovered a rift in the fourth dimension? We launched a monkey into it. @('.')@
Geren=genius
He knew the offense would break out this game, so that's why they pushed back Harden's start.
The A's colors are green and gold.
All this "Mom's basement" stuff is so wrong
Nico's obviously much more the mom-in-the-attic type.
There is an A in Whimsy.
that's right, mom's in the attic
must be Paul Thomas in the basement
I've met Nico's mom
And she looks nothing like Cindi.
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I've met louismg's dad, and
the resemblance to Cindi is uncanny.
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Greg Smith goes tomorrow
Oakland purchased Smith's contract from Triple-A Sacramento on Tuesday. The 24-year-old was scheduled to arrive in Toronto late on Tuesday night and is expected to be named the starter for Wednesday night's affair against the Jays. Smith, one of the players acquired in the Dan Haren trade during the offseason, allowed two runs on six hits in his first Minor League start of '08.
so who is off the roster?
Johnson?
Rickey Henderson: 35, 24, hall of fame!
by Athletics fan and runner on Apr 8, 2008 8:25 PM PDT up reply actions
Chavvy to the 60-day
is my guess.
I mean, does anyone seriously think he's back before May 20 or whenever the 60-day mark is? He can't even bend over right now.
Your 2008 Athletics: It's Nothing Personal.
Come on, guys -
You honestly don't think there will be a new injury between now and tomorrow afternoon? These guys all have to get out of bed - possibly turning off an alarm clock in the process - walk to the lobby, eat a meal (which could include grapes, known to be hazardous), not get deported, and take batting practice.
The move will make itself.
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come on now
new year. The injury bug is the Angels gig....
by HRH on Apr 8, 2008 8:52 PM PDT up reply actions
Tell it to Duke and Harden!
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'specially Duke-shire
I like Cindi. A. She never pretends to know more than she does. B. She has unbridled enthusiasm for her "Hotties," and isn't afraid to show it. -IM4Oakgal
you forgot
take a shower (eveland), put on sunblock (DJ), use an elastic exercise band (yabu, oh wait he's with the giants now)....
i'm surprised beane didn't trade for john smoltz after he tried to iron a shirt while still wearing it.
A's v Giants "is kind of like the difference between going to see the Ramones and going to see the Bee Gees. A's fans will go see the Ramones." -BB 07/27/05
How guilty are we all gonna feel when
Ziggy goes down with carpal tunnel syndrome?
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Top of the recap
A's lead 6-3 not 6-1. Just a minor thing.
"Their batters are patient to the point that it's annoying." -Ryan Franklin
Oops. Yeah, huh.
Thanks.
I like Cindi. A. She never pretends to know more than she does. B. She has unbridled enthusiasm for her "Hotties," and isn't afraid to show it. -IM4Oakgal
Also you mean "led" not "lead"
(third word second sentence)
There is an A in Whimsy.
by FreeSeatUpgrade on Apr 8, 2008 8:38 PM PDT up reply actions
Sorry, I'm drinked
I mean, insober. That is, when I wrote that I was clearly inder the unfluence.
Oh crap - well, you mean what I know.
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I thought it was keen.
"And Julio Franco is batting right-handed!" -- Wayne Hagin, A's radio play-by-play, mid-80s
I thought it was capital.
"I'm going to take a camera crew and march into Billy Beane's office and demand to know why instituting his newfangled cost-saving measures means that the run manufacturing plant had to get shut down." FJM
I thought it was choice.
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You're all wrong.
What you "thought" it was has no bearing on reality. My statement was one of fact: that was neat.
stat-addled alien overlord
Your next Staturday assignment
is to prove that it was neat statistically.
by Tyler Bleszinski on Apr 8, 2008 9:11 PM PDT up reply actions
You know what they said when Blez was a kid?
"Forsooth, that doth be concurrently neat and keen!"
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Patrol Craft got spooked by Sweeney's performance,
responded with a HR tonight.
The A's colors are green and gold.
I could be projecting, but
Huston looked to have as little confidence in himself tonight as I had in him. It must be tough to intimidate opposing hitters when you're cowering like a bunny.
Didn't look that way to me
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I hope you're right...
in any event, a solid outing like this one should help his mood.
Street only made one bad pitch
and that was a floating slider that I think Rios just missed.
by Tyler Bleszinski on Apr 8, 2008 9:13 PM PDT up reply actions
Strike two to Wells was a fastball I wouldn't recommend
throwing down the middle to him again - but Wells was either looking slider, or else the pitch had enough life on it, that Wells took it. But that was the pitch that could have gotten hit out (had Street been doing the "daily HR" thing).
I like Cindi. A. She never pretends to know more than she does. B. She has unbridled enthusiasm for her "Hotties," and isn't afraid to show it. -IM4Oakgal
I thought that was nice pitch-calling by ZOOK!
Wells was looking slider-slider-fastball, and Suzuki/Street went fastball-fastball-slider.
And what did we do once we discovered a rift in the fourth dimension? We launched a monkey into it. @('.')@
sure, but when you throw your (90 mph) fastball,
you might not want to throw it where Huston did.
I liked the fastball call on the second pitch
but he threw it in the HR part of the zone.
The A's colors are green and gold.
Exactly - good pitch, bad location, good life on it
Best of all: Vernon took it.
I like Cindi. A. She never pretends to know more than she does. B. She has unbridled enthusiasm for her "Hotties," and isn't afraid to show it. -IM4Oakgal
there was that thigh-high
fastball that V. Wells took at 0-1
Does RSweeney Stay in the Line-up?
Jays have a RHP going tomorrow, so RS will likely start. If he continues to hit do you then sit him the next time a LHP starts?
If he keeps it going, perhaps sit Buck (for the short term) against LHP and let Den get some at bats while playing RF.
When Den and RS have been in the field at the same time as of late, RS has been in CF with Den on the corner.
I'd hate to see a hot bat wasted because of a palatoon that was put together when both guys were hitting in the .200-.230 range.
Things have changed.....in this latest SMALL SAMPLE SIZE :)
I think you sit Email Brown - or should I say you "delete" him?
An OF of Ryan Sweeney, Denorfia, and Buck, is excellent defensively, and they are (potentially) the future, Email not-so-much.
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mike sweeney: backup dh/1b
A's v Giants "is kind of like the difference between going to see the Ramones and going to see the Bee Gees. A's fans will go see the Ramones." -BB 07/27/05
Duke
Went on the 15-day DL. Oddest thing: Slusser said it was a lat with Harden, now AP says it's a strain in his upper arm.
it's a subscapularious strain
however, the media has been defining that variously as either the back, the shoulder, or the side.
Evidently anatomy is not a requirement for sports reporting.
the ability to identify a horse's ass
might come in handy
No problem
Just give most sportswriters a mirror.
(I, of course, am not including our dear SuSlu in this.)
"Evidently, a large number of people said, 'We really need more vermin at the ballpark, Artie.'" - Nick (AN), 10/7/07
A's in Domes
I like the A's when they play in Domes, seems to wake up the bats.
All Games and Comments are Subject to Blackout
The medical Staff
Needs to be replaced. From top to bottom. It has to be the problem, these guy's are pro athletes, they shouldn't even have to worry about things like tendinitis.
You've got to ask yourself a question: Do I feel lucky? Well, do ya, punk?- Dirty Harry
wow it feels like 2007 on AN
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anything more painful
in sports today than watching the giants bullpen try to waste another great cain/lincecum start?
Having to watch them AND listen to the announcers?
I like Cindi. A. She never pretends to know more than she does. B. She has unbridled enthusiasm for her "Hotties," and isn't afraid to show it. -IM4Oakgal
actually I have the TV on the Giants game
but the sound off...and the radio on the Warriors game...and blogging on AN
I wish they'd quit showing that one fan
Although, he is a GAMER!
"Evidently, a large number of people said, 'We really need more vermin at the ballpark, Artie.'" - Nick (AN), 10/7/07
Do you think they should take their white pen and
cross out the fan's face - because that would be funny and original.
I like Cindi. A. She never pretends to know more than she does. B. She has unbridled enthusiasm for her "Hotties," and isn't afraid to show it. -IM4Oakgal
Or perhaps
they can show close-ups of guys wiping their kids' noses on their sleeves.
"Evidently, a large number of people said, 'We really need more vermin at the ballpark, Artie.'" - Nick (AN), 10/7/07
I can't stop thinking of the caller to KNBR
who used to work in the coroner's office. He commented that the workers would refer to cadavers who had been there a while as "gamers"....
Rowand looks like a cadaver tonight
0-4, three K's
"Evidently, a large number of people said, 'We really need more vermin at the ballpark, Artie.'" - Nick (AN), 10/7/07
Maybe for a venereal disesae
I like Cindi. A. She never pretends to know more than she does. B. She has unbridled enthusiasm for her "Hotties," and isn't afraid to show it. -IM4Oakgal
Ay buddie - Carlos Calcium don't need no sidekick!
Carlos works alone, man.
I like Cindi. A. She never pretends to know more than she does. B. She has unbridled enthusiasm for her "Hotties," and isn't afraid to show it. -IM4Oakgal
Someone on MCC said yesterday
they should trade for him and make him be nicknamed Crazy.
The candy and the baseball all night long: )
by Englishmajor on Apr 8, 2008 10:13 PM PDT up reply actions
Pronk!!!!
Hafner just hit a 2 run HR to give the Indians a 1 run lead in the top of the ninth over the Halos.
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Yes, but only after Westbrook gets three outs!
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I'm posting this here becase, well, it's never too early to socreboard watch
PRONK~! hits a 2 run homer with 2 outs in the 9th off Justin Speier, Indians lead 4-3 now. Gooooo Tribe!
http://bocropleasestopswingingatbadpitches.blogspot.com/
by thejd44 on Apr 8, 2008 9:41 PM PDT reply actions
Wow, two comments get in before mine goes through. Hmpf
http://bocropleasestopswingingatbadpitches.blogspot.com/
by thejd44 on Apr 8, 2008 9:41 PM PDT up reply actions
Is it too early to "Borowski watch"?
Otherwise known as suicide watch for me.
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Thought this was a loss.
When Tor. tied it at 8 I thought for sure this game was a loss. Good to get a win.
Can't wait to see all the former A's on May 27th.
That Hafner HR was huge
I admit it. I'm up at a quarter to 1 in Orlando, FL watching the game on MLB.TV and hanging with my AN buds. Is this an obsession, or healthy?
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Are the giants still in MLB?
(He said, paraphrasing the Dodgers of old)
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I honestly think the River Cats would do just as well as the Giants this year
And there's probably a handful of other AAA teams that fit that bill.
http://bocropleasestopswingingatbadpitches.blogspot.com/
by thejd44 on Apr 8, 2008 9:48 PM PDT up reply actions
The biggest reason for a RAF
to buy either MLB.TV or Extra Innings is that you're not stuck watching San Francisco when the A's aren't on.
Matthews Jr. singled, Vlad GIDP
2 outs, Westbrook still in, only 92 pitches
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Guerrero DP
Angels down to last out. Disneyland quiet.
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Wow...Cleveland pulled it out!
Vlad's DP was huge. Hey...we're tied for first!
So, bring on Bonds! Or, not... then, bring back Langerhans!! -One won lost one
Don't do that!
I'm still on MLB.tv and delayed. You're no fun.
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We're a half game behind!
So, bring on Bonds! Or, not... then, bring back Langerhans!! -One won lost one
(I'm enjoying while it lasts)
So, bring on Bonds! Or, not... then, bring back Langerhans!! -One won lost one
A's, Red Sox, Yanks: all 4-4
One of these payrolls doesn't belong here...
Again - enjoying it while it lasts...
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The A's record can last
It's the Red Sox and Yanks who are cellar-bound.
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Just made my weekly visit to HH
they're too dumb to even be interesting for schadenfreude purposes.
Helpful hint. If you care about spelling, but don't know how to spell schadenfreude, just google your best guess and you'll get the answer, which you can then copy and paste!
The A's colors are green and gold.
Ah, that's called "Shaddinfroide"
I like Cindi. A. She never pretends to know more than she does. B. She has unbridled enthusiasm for her "Hotties," and isn't afraid to show it. -IM4Oakgal
Hmmm
I always thought it had something to do with Marge Schott and Freud.
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Even Freud ain't that desperate
And he's not that young anymore.
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The last time I posted something about schadenfreude
I thought for sure someone would post the picture of A. J. Pierzynski. I couldn't find it anywhere.
The candy and the baseball all night long: )
can't find it
because sbnation's search function is still completely broken!
^sbnation search function.....^me
A's v Giants "is kind of like the difference between going to see the Ramones and going to see the Bee Gees. A's fans will go see the Ramones." -BB 07/27/05
Good times
That angle isn't as perfect as the other one, but it makes A. J. look worse, which is a bonus.
The candy and the baseball all night long: )
by Englishmajor on Apr 8, 2008 10:09 PM PDT up reply actions
same goes for weltanschauung
A's v Giants "is kind of like the difference between going to see the Ramones and going to see the Bee Gees. A's fans will go see the Ramones." -BB 07/27/05
and gesamtkunstwerk
And what did we do once we discovered a rift in the fourth dimension? We launched a monkey into it. @('.')@
Ahhh, now that is sweet
Had it on gameday, checked in the middle of the game when Cleveland was up 2-0, then checked again at the start of the ninth and I was pissed. Thank you Wedge for leaving Westbrook in!
The A's colors are green and gold.
Angels fans are probably saying,
"Geez, shoulda walked Hafner and pitched to Garko!"
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{annika sorenstam venereal disease}
And what did we do once we discovered a rift in the fourth dimension? We launched a monkey into it. @('.')@
Yahoo! A's page lists tomorrow's starter
being Lenny DiNardo. Of course, since Greg Smith hasn't been added to the 25 and 40 man roster yet he can't be listed. Still, I thought it was worth mentioning, since you never know...
Let's Go, Pecs
The candy and the baseball all night long: )
by Englishmajor on Apr 8, 2008 10:00 PM PDT up reply actions
but yahoo generally doesn't scoop mlb.com on the pitching matchups
The A's colors are green and gold.
Harden isn't cut out for starting...
He would be a sick Papel-esque closer though. With Street as the 8th inning man.
witty remark
Giants fans appear to be chanting
"Bo!" "Cock!"
"Bo!" "Cock!"
"Bo!" "Cock!"
The candy and the baseball all night long: )
Man, it's fun watching the Giants
"Bocock with a chance to be a hero!"
Not good.
The A's colors are green and gold.
Bocock
He actually has a better hitting approach that most everyone else in that lineup.
"Evidently, a large number of people said, 'We really need more vermin at the ballpark, Artie.'" - Nick (AN), 10/7/07
He also had a .656 OPS in A-ball last year,
but I agree! This is what makes the Giants so fun to watch.
The A's colors are green and gold.
Im pretty happy so far with this team..
I mean we are 4-4 while Playing vs the World Series Champs and a team that was on the ALCS. As well as a very good team in Toronot. Cant complain so far. And with a little luck we coulda been 6-2.
When will then be now? Soon.
Not sure if allowing a game tying HR in the 9th
is "bad luck" but yeah - definitely not much would have to have been different for us to be 6-2.
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British boarding schools
would have them be Sweeney Major and Sweeney Minor.
The candy and the baseball all night long: )
by Englishmajor on Apr 8, 2008 10:16 PM PDT up reply actions
hahahahahahahaha
Giants actually playing well. Hit, SB, 2-0 count, then a GB to first, throw to third DP.
The A's colors are green and gold.
Stupid Giants.
I love it. And MLB TV rocks this year.
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I actually feel sorry for them tonight
When was the last time you ever saw a 3(unassisted)-5 GIDP?
"Evidently, a large number of people said, 'We really need more vermin at the ballpark, Artie.'" - Nick (AN), 10/7/07
That was bad.
But they have more wins than .. .
Detroit!
I wanted to see the overactive Giants fan they've been panning to
right after the Giants blew the save
oh wait, there he is!
Green Hulk Fists
Giants win!
Adios, pelota, I guess. Oh well, Angels lose and A's win! Works for me.
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Molina with the walk-off
He's lucky he didn't peg one of those seagulls waiting to descend into the LF bleachers.
"Evidently, a large number of people said, 'We really need more vermin at the ballpark, Artie.'" - Nick (AN), 10/7/07
that's too bad... Giants win.
Krukow: "That's one we'll always remember." In a 120-loss season. No doubt.
Go A's!
It was a tasty morsel in the famine
Savor the flavor.
Green Hulk Fists
by oaklandSMASH on Apr 8, 2008 10:44 PM PDT up reply actions
Well, I guess the Giants
are proving the broken clock theory by squeezing out a win.
BTW, why is Raj Mathai wearing Franklin batting gloves?
Green Hulk Fists
Uhhhhh
Some channel whatever correspondent was interviewing Molina after the HR, and he was wearing gloves because it was cold I guess. But they were batting gloves!
The A's colors are green and gold.
I like Raj Mathai
but batting gloves for an interview mic is a party foul!
Green Hulk Fists
by oaklandSMASH on Apr 8, 2008 10:45 PM PDT up reply actions
HARDEN SHOULD KNOW BETTER!!!
from the tsn.ca story (big news being that the B. Jays are the only baseball team up there)
The Victoria native pitched through the injury to his subscapular muscle April 2 versus the Boston Red Sox, throwing five shutout innings. Instead of pushing things Tuesday against the Toronto Blue Jays, he decided against taking further chances.
He expects to take the mound Saturday against Cleveland.
''I got through last game with it, I was wanting to pitch today but they wanted me to take an extra couple of days,'' Harden said.
''I was feeling it quite a bit. I was throwing fastballs at 85, then I'd throw one at 93 and it was basically just trying to push myself through it. It was kind of max effort on every pitch but it wasn't coming out consistent. It may have worked to my advantage, they didn't know what was coming.''
witty remark
HE should not be pitching through injuries and soreness...
unless he actually enjoys the time off
witty remark
I wonder
How many pitchers feel 100% healthy when they take the mound? Over the past 3 years, Harden has had 10+ opinions on his Shoulder / Elbow / etc. Every "injury" comes back negative. Harden has a full team of Trainers / Chiropractors / Witches, etc... He has been declared healthy by everyone.
At this point in his career, I want Rich Harden has to pitch through the "Soreness", and so do his teammates. Every pitcher pitches through some kind of soreness. Take some advil. Take a painkiller. Get on the mound for your teammates.
I'm sure Harden's Agent is advising him to take every precaution, especially this season. There are "7-Million Rea$ons" why he should not push through the soreness during a Rebuilding Year.... Not to mention the add'l Millions he'll get after the 2009 Season. Some sucker/team will see him as the next Kerry Wood (Closer). This is ridiculous.
(vent over)
by Colorado Fan on Apr 9, 2008 12:22 AM PDT up reply actions
Harden ain't getting "add'l millions" after '09. Even the Giants aren't that stupid
to pay a pitcher more than $3.5mm per start.
Mulder
... and few othershave rec'd "Add'l Millions" w/ Torn Rotater Cuffs. Harden hasn't even had surgery. He will get Millions if he makes it through this year and next w/o surgery. Some team will take the bait.
uh...
i think that's a terrible idea. my personal belief is that harden and the a's tried to have him pitch through pain instead of taking a start off here and there over the past few years, and that this made minor tweaks much worse, resulting in all his injuries. obviously, we'll have to see what happens, but if he's able to go saturday and is fine, then i think him missing this start is exactly what the a's should have done the whole time with rich. its one thing to pitch through pain, its another to pitch through pain that causes injuries that are much worse, which is exactly what i think happened to harden the past few seasons.
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by guy incognito on Apr 9, 2008 7:32 AM PDT up reply actions
Taking a start off here and there?
The guy made 15 starts in the last 2 seasons!
Many of those 15 were on substantially more than 4 days rest.
He injured himself and missed three months in his FIRST START BACK in 2006. The same thing happened in 2007.
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no...what i'm saying is
he might have had some shoulder/arm issues that may have been okay if he missed a start or two. instead, the a's (and given the perception of him being injury-prone, i bet harden did, too) pushed him back sooner than they should have, resulting in a minor injury becoming a major one. i'm not saying this is what happened with rich the past few seasons, but i definitely suspect it's a possibility. again, we'll see what happens as the season moves along.
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by guy incognito on Apr 9, 2008 9:31 AM PDT up reply actions
I understand what you're saying
and it's preposterous. Harden has hardly strung two starts together since 2005. It's hard to injure something in one start and then aggravate it in the next if there is no "next."
All three of his most recent issues (April '06, June '06, April '07) have been suddenly arising issues. Harden reaches for a comebacker last season. Before that, he's fine. After it, he's out for, essentially, the season.
The point of this whole exercise is not to keep Rich Harden healthy in the abstract. The point is to have him pitch games for the Oakland A's.
Your 2008 Athletics: It's Nothing Personal.
By your logic, he should be good for about one appearence per year (instead of
the two the A's have been forcing on him).
Geren is a f***ing idiot!
Enough with stabilizing Embree in the 8th! Foulke threw six pitches in the 7th and he was looking brilliant. Why not use him again? Plus, Casilla was in the bullpen - whose specialty is getting right handers out! Oh my effing god!! Geren was doing everything in his power to lose this game. Unbelievably poor strategy.
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by The Dogfather on Apr 9, 2008 9:04 AM PDT up reply actions
Yeah, please tell me that is actually a really simple common ailment with no serious implications...
please?
i am not so sure about that
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For an overhead athlete, ie athlete who's sport
involves lots of raising their arm above their shoulder, that is a very bad injury. Not as bad a supraspinatus or labrum injury, but not too far off.
ZIPS: Milledge: 466 HR, 485 2B, 2282 hits, 278-379-524
Hate to say this but...
Suzuki is not swinging the bat very well. His singles are mostly of the seeing-eye ground ball variety, and that's not sustainable. Likewise, Ryan Sweeney has been very lucky.
Here are is the current list of A's hitters, based on their peripherals thus far:
Notice that Ellis and Hannahan are in fact smoking the ball so far. Ellis has hit a huge number of balls hard that simply were right at defenders.Hannahan seems to be similarly victimized.
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