The Super Lineup
The A's started nine right-handed batters against Twins lefty Francisco Liriano Thursday, and you could say that it worked out pretty well.
| AB | R | H | RBI | BB | K | LOB | Season Avg | ||
| K. Suzuki c | 4 | 2 | 2 | 2 | 1 | 0 | 1 | .316 | |
| M. Ellis 2b | 5 | 2 | 2 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 3 | .247 | |
| M. Sweeney 1b | 4 | 0 | 2 | 2 | 0 | 0 | 3 | .322 | |
| D. Barton 1b | 1 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | .262 | |
| F. Thomas dh | 3 | 1 | 0 | 0 | 2 | 0 | 1 | .000 | |
| E. Brown rf | 4 | 1 | 1 | 2 | 0 | 0 | 3 | .276 | |
| B. Crosby ss | 4 | 1 | 1 | 0 | 1 | 0 | 1 | .297 | |
| C. Denorfia lf | 4 | 0 | 1 | 1 | 1 | 2 | 3 | .286 | |
| D. Murphy 3b | 5 | 3 | 3 | 4 | 0 | 1 | 3 | .286 | |
| R. Davis cf | 4 | 1 | 3 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 1 | .750 | |
Liriano faced all nine of them and was bounced before the inning ended. He only got one of them out, yielding five singles and three walks.
I think there's a powerful argument for enacting this type of lineup when we see lefities more often. Sure, the classic lineup card alternates left- and right-handed hitters in the order, to prevent an opponent from shutting down your offense in the late innings with one dominant lefty specialist. But Thursday we saw an example of how the opposite approach can completely change the complexion of a game, or even an entire series.
The Super Lineup, as I'm dubbing our all-righty crew, put six runs on the board and chased Liriano after nine hitters. Not only did they practically put the game out of reach in the first inning, but they forced the Twins 'pen to throw a whopping 123 pitches. Imagine if it were the first game of the series and the A's could feast on a tired bullpen for the next two or three days.
I look at the all-righty lineup as low-risk, high reward: They're more vulnerable to being shut down by righty relievers late in the game...but why not try to dominate the early innings by leveraging your platoon advantage vs. the opposing SP to the max?
To me it's an extension of the sabermetric principle of playing for the big inning. You want to eschew outs, whether via the sacrifice bunt, or via the unfavorable lefty-vs.-lefty matchup. The A's had nine favorable matchups in a row in today's lineup, and, not coincidentally, they had a big inning. Who cares that they had four 0's later on?
Their reward was a breezy, less pressurized seven innings for Greg Smith and hurting the opponent's bullpen.
I think this lineup might even correlate to less runners left on base in the early innings, because it stacks favorable matchups in order, rather than staggering them every other hitter, which the L-R-L-R approach sometimes does.
That's my layman's take, certainly open for debate. I'd like to see our Staturday trio or Tom Tango tackle the pros and cons of that lineup vs. lefties from a more statistically rigorous point-of-view.
I hope to see The Super Lineup Saturday against Erik Bedard and the Mariners. More Donnie Murphy vs. lefities, and more Mike Sweeney at first base against them, too. Sometimes that one extra hit in an inning is the difference between leaving the bases loaded, or breaking the game wide open.
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What allows for this luxury is the fantastic starting pitching Oakland has received thus far. The A's are carrying 14 position players, and I hope they'll continue to even after Duke comes off the DL to start Saturday (I think we'll see Braden sent down again). The team can afford to carry 11 pitchers for now.
It's further evidence of how critical it is to build a bullpen and even part of the bench with 0-3 service time players with remaining option years. Braden/Devine's ability to shuttle up and down between AAA and the bigs will probably be used all year, and it practically allows the team to have a 27 man roster (please read that if you get a chance, it's exactly how Beane and the best GM's manage their active roster day-to-day).
If they wanted to be really crazy (hey, the '89 A's did it), they could carry 15 position players for a few weeks when Buck gets back and truly leverage an amazing platoon advantage: Buck/R. Sweeney/Cust/Hannahan/Barton vs. righties and today's lineup vs. lefties, with a boatload of pinch-hitting and defensive sub options as needed.
It's not as crazy as it sounds. With fresh-legged young players that can play every day, no Rule 5 pitchers, plenty of option-flexible relievers, no LOOGYs, six capable starters, and every reliever capable of throwing 2 innings, this might be the one team in baseball that could succeed with a 10-man staff and 2.5 designated hitters.
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I think it might work to use the super lineup every once in a while
but if someone like Cust or Barton happens to be on a hot streak I would stick the lefty stick in there.
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by micdog2001 on Apr 24, 2008 7:41 PM PDT 0 recs
Howsabout the RightY line-up?
You northpaws slay me.
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by The Dogfather on
Apr 25, 2008 7:20 AM PDT
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it's kind of funny
I always have to set my video game lineups using the the L-R-L theory. Just because that’s how the A’s always have done it.
well, I guess it’s not that funny but what the crap I’m posting ti anyways.
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by micdog2001 on Apr 24, 2008 7:43 PM PDT 0 recs
"it"
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by micdog2001 on
Apr 24, 2008 7:46 PM PDT
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I don't really want Barton platooned. Everybody else? Sure!
by WaddellCanseco on Apr 24, 2008 7:48 PM PDT 0 recs
He's a rookie
Let him earn the right to play every day. For now I’m not going to complain about Mike Sweeney getting some extra PAs.
And it is Beane’s latest stroke of genius—constructing a deep and brittle pitching staff that-by definition- can constantly work with 10-11 on and 4-5 off—that has set this offensive roster up to outperform expectations. Duke and Harden return—DiNardo cycles back to bullpen; smith back to AAA; Foulke returns; Braden or Devine drop off, etc, etc..
by madmongoose on
Apr 24, 2008 8:15 PM PDT
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It's gonna be awfully hard to send Smith back down with the way he's pitched.
by mikev on
Apr 24, 2008 8:17 PM PDT
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easier than sending Devine though
I would think you want Smith to get regular work at this point?
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by Buck Turgidson on
Apr 24, 2008 11:02 PM PDT
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i'm not sure he gets sent down
dinardo will go to the pen, so smith will stay in the rotation, but who gets sent down?
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by flipgatey3 on
Apr 25, 2008 9:00 AM PDT
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The team only has 4 starters at this point
Duke coming back will make 5, at which point the team will have to either send out a position player or a bullpen guy (which would reduce same to 6 players). Smith would only be at risk of getting sent down if Harden returns, and to be honest, I think the odds are better that the team will go to a 6-man rotation at that point than that they farm him out.
Of course, I’m sure Harden will have his standard “setbacks” for the next 3 months anyway, so I don’t feel it’s much of a problem.
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by PaulThomas on
Apr 25, 2008 9:08 AM PDT
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send down hannahan
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by flipgatey3 on
Apr 26, 2008 8:32 AM PDT
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I'd rather see DiNardo DFA'd...
... than see anyone other than Braden get sent down.
by Joey C. on
Apr 25, 2008 3:02 PM PDT
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Don't you think that
the success of today’s lineup was largely a result of Liriano pitching like a guy coming back from tommy john surgery about 6 months too early?
by Hot Cup Joe on Apr 24, 2008 8:32 PM PDT 0 recs
Liriano says he feels great
except when he gets in a game, he cannot locate his pitches.
I agree though, probably an all-lefty lineup would have done as much damage. You can’t expect to walk the bases loaded, then throw slower pitches in an attempt to throw strikes. Lefty, righty, any MLB player can hit in such a situation. Davis was 1-for-18 and had not even touched a bat in five days, and got a first inning hit.
Korach noted in the first inning, “Liriano’s velocity is way down.”
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by One won lost won on
Apr 24, 2008 9:12 PM PDT
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that's what I was thinking
the A’s took advantage of the situation…Liriano was ripe for this kind of assault
by OaklandSi on
Apr 25, 2008 5:35 AM PDT
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That's what I thought, too
He walked in with a 6.5 ERA. Heck, I chose to go to this game partly because I wanted to see a WIN this week, and I got what I expected. :)
by phastphill on
Apr 25, 2008 3:26 PM PDT
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If the ballclub is excited about FThomas, then I'm excited
Candidly, I did not think it would be a positive. But it turned out it was. This appears to be a great orchestration by Beane and Geren.
The real bonus might be Jack Cust will feel less pressure, and start squaring up some of the pitches. He seems to be fouling off a lot of “in the wheelhouse” tosses. I saw Hanahan doing some upfront cheerleading. He also may feel less pressure.
Timing is great. Seattle and Angles are on the West Coast, so travel and time zones are favorable, but the two teams are formidable. A good seven games to really measure the effects of Thomas and the real capabilities of the team.
"I never predict anything, and I never will." Paul Gascoigne, English footballer
by One won lost won on Apr 24, 2008 9:20 PM PDT 0 recs
Cust may feel less pressure on the bench
Any way you slice this thing, he’s gonna be the odd man out unless he starts to hit. He doesn’t fit in the Super Lineup—and against righties he will only play unless and until Buck gets healthy and Gonzalez gets ready. And if he doesn’t hit i could easily see a starting OF of Sweeney, Brown and either Davis or Donorfia against RHP.
by madmongoose on
Apr 24, 2008 9:29 PM PDT
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Cust needs to be released as soon as Buck comes off the DL
The A’s can’t afford to carry 3 guys that are basically all DHs
by sactownbull on
Apr 24, 2008 9:36 PM PDT
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Thats the furthest thing from a good idea.
When will then be now? Soon.
by Syphon on
Apr 25, 2008 12:00 AM PDT
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+1
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by flipgatey3 on
Apr 25, 2008 9:01 AM PDT
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Buck to Sacto
If things go well for the next couple of weeks (I’m sure they won’t, someone will inevitably get hurt), Buck should spend some time in Sacramento.
by Colorado Fan on
Apr 25, 2008 10:29 AM PDT
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After all, he's never been there.
His danger, of course, would be that he stays there and the right garden in the Coliseum gets patrolled by someone else.
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by The Dogfather on
Apr 25, 2008 11:16 AM PDT
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He'll presumably be doing so anyway
as a rehab stint while on the DL.
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by PaulThomas on
Apr 25, 2008 11:49 AM PDT
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Cust might feel more pressure
as to his job, actually.
I also have some doubts about Thomas. But at the price the A’s have to try him. If he stays healthy and can still produce, why not? And if he can’t, they can part ways without having spent too much $$.
The Thomas signing certainly put A’s all over the Bay Area media map yesterday (even KNBR couldn’t stop talking about it).
by OaklandSi on
Apr 25, 2008 5:38 AM PDT
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Bonds
is still on the market…it seems to me that there are only two possible reasons the A’s haven’t signed him…a) he costs too much or b) the A’s are afraid of the baggage he brings (but i don’t think this is the case)...it’s kind of confusing, though, why we signed Thomas over Bonds
We've never been in that position. We wouldn't know how to operate, I mean, do we get him a corsage?-Billy Beane on signing a high profile FA
by DyeLongJustice on Apr 24, 2008 9:31 PM PDT 0 recs
not that confusing...
a) Bonds would cost more than Thomas does, unless Bonds were willing to sign for the $337,000 (or whatever it is) that Thomas signed for;
b) Thus, almost no financial risk for the A’s;
c) Thomas was well-liked in 2006; no telling what chemistry Bonds would bring to the team;
d) Thomas isn’t under indictment for perjury;
e) Thomas fits into the “Super Lineup” better than Bonds does. ;-)
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by FoolshGame22 on
Apr 24, 2008 9:44 PM PDT
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true...
but bonds = unprecedented hitter…and probably the best ever…why wouldn’t you at least give it a shot if you really want to contend…but ya, i’d rather have thomas too…so maybe i just answered my own question
We've never been in that position. We wouldn't know how to operate, I mean, do we get him a corsage?-Billy Beane on signing a high profile FA
by DyeLongJustice on
Apr 24, 2008 10:09 PM PDT
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did they dismiss the case?
Bonds Under Indictment… I must not have been paying attention when they dropped the case. I’m sure he didn’t lie, anyway.
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by FoolshGame22 on
Apr 24, 2008 10:54 PM PDT
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flaws in the original
filings. There may be a new indictment in June. But right now, Bonds is not under idictment.
http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/article.cgi?f=/c/a/2008/03/22/BAE4VOO6Q.DTL&hw=bonds+indictment&sn=010&sc=395
by Future Ed on
Apr 24, 2008 11:14 PM PDT
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sorry
here
http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/article.cgi?f=/c/a/2008/03/22/BAE4VOO6Q.DTL&hw=bonds+indictment&sn=010&sc=395
by Future Ed on
Apr 24, 2008 11:15 PM PDT
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Ahhh... I do recall that
So, I will amend my post, as easily as the Feds will amend their indictment:
d) Thomas isn’t likely to be under indictment for perjury and obstruction this season (as Bonds is)...
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by FoolshGame22 on
Apr 24, 2008 11:28 PM PDT
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Bonds is 43, Thomas 39
Bonds cannot go on forever.
Last year he showed plenty of “end-of-the-line” traits.
At some point, even the best cannot get it done in the Majors.
Look at Andres Gallaraga. He needed ONE MORE home run.
Could
not
do
it.
Thirty teams say, “Bonds cannot catch up to a fastball any more.”
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by One won lost won on
Apr 24, 2008 11:02 PM PDT
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Bonds '07 OPS: 1045
Thirty teams say, “Collusion.”
http://www.hardballtimes.com/main/fantasy/article/a-hidden-dent-in-frank-thomass-value/
by aang on
Apr 24, 2008 11:22 PM PDT
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why collude against one player?
If Al Davis were a MLB owner, he’d have already signed Bonds. But, owners only collude to save billions, not a few million.
Isn’t it just as likely that they’ve all looked at Bonds and said: “He just ain’t worth the bad publicity.” (Especially, if I can sign Frank Thomas for $337,000.)
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by FoolshGame22 on
Apr 24, 2008 11:35 PM PDT
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perhaps, but...
teams also like to win. and have given shots to worse personalties with far worse abilities. a better article:
http://www.hardballtimes.com/main/article/those-who-do-not-learn-from-history/
by aang on
Apr 24, 2008 11:45 PM PDT
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hey, if Barry Lamar Bonds wants to sign...
an incentive-laden, base-salary contract, I’d be sympathetic…. and, perhaps, more inclined toward the collusion theory. But, I doubt Barry wants to do that. If the A’s were to make him that offer, I’m sure he’d decline and insist on no less than what Frank Thomas will make this season. Can you say deal-breaker?
But, I feel Barry’s pain. He’s got to support a family, after all.
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by FoolshGame22 on
Apr 24, 2008 11:55 PM PDT
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Hard to Imagine..
Bonds turning down any offer at this point. His career is basically over, and he wants to play one more year.
by richwol1 on
Apr 25, 2008 11:23 AM PDT
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Jeff Borris says..
No team has made an offer at any price at any time. That’s a simple fact. At this point in time, no club has even offered the minimum salary. And even though the minimum salary wouldn’t be a bona fide offer for a player of his stature, it’s beyond comprehension that no team (has made) such an offer.
—Jeff Borris, agent for Barry Bonds
How many Jeff Borris clients have signed an “incentive-laden contract” ? What is the lowest dollar value client contract that has been signed by a Jeff Borris client?
A lot of general managers won’t deal with Borris. In that, there might be collusion. But is it truly “collusion”??
Has anyone gone into a Mercedes dealership and offered the price of a Yaris for a new Mercedes?? Collusion? No, just knowledge that it won’t be accepted. Having prior knowledge is not collusion. Not wishing to negotiate with a known pain in the ass is not collusion. The Giants didn’t offer a minimum. Why not? They love him at PacBell Park. No offer from them says it is Borris, not the owners, that is the problem.
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by One won lost won on
Apr 25, 2008 12:05 PM PDT
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The Giants didn't make an offer
because the team is rebuilding and wanted to distance itself from him, and signing him would have done nothing for the team’s competitiveness.
It’s utterly preposterous to suggest that every team in baseball somehow has such good information that Bonds won’t sign for what they’ll offer him that they won’t even bother making an offer. It’s a frigging phone call. It would take like 15 minutes to find out whether he’ll accept a salary in a general range.
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by PaulThomas on
Apr 25, 2008 12:12 PM PDT
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Bonds and the Giants
I thought Bonds wrote his own ticket out of town after taking his contract to the public and the media last year.
I don’t recall specifically when he said this, but I was pretty sure that Bonds has been clear about playing for real money. If he thought that it wasn’t fair that he wasn’t getting offers from teams, why not sell himself directly to the few teams that could really use him in their lineup? Sitting around waiting doesn’t get a whole lot done these days.
by ChrisCEIT on
Apr 25, 2008 3:04 PM PDT
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"A lot of general managers won’t deal with Borris"
I think you’re confusing him with Scott Boras.
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by monkeyball on
Apr 25, 2008 12:54 PM PDT
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And Andres Galarraga
is a good comparison for Barry Bonds, because?
Yeah, Bonds showed plenty of “end of the line” traits last year. So many that MLB pitchers absolutely killed him. He was so poor that he only managed a 170 OPS+, better than Albert Pujols, better than Prince Fielder, better than Miguel Cabrera, better than David Wright, better than Chipper Jones.
Yup, Barry Bnds cannot catch up to a fastball anymore. But Jose Vidro can. Jose Vidro is better than Barry Bonds.
ZIPS: Milledge: 466 HR, 485 2B, 2282 hits, 278-379-524
by rfloh on
Apr 24, 2008 11:54 PM PDT
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yeah, but...
won’t they be taking blood samples this year for later HGH testing?
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by FoolshGame22 on
Apr 24, 2008 11:58 PM PDT
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Not really
There’s talk that they are developing a test / testing system. Nothing is formalised yet.
Regardless, even if they do start using blood tests for HGH, why do you believe that it should affect Bonds all that adversely? He’s not the only player who ever used illegal banned substances.
ZIPS: Milledge: 466 HR, 485 2B, 2282 hits, 278-379-524
by rfloh on
Apr 25, 2008 7:20 AM PDT
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ummm...
because he’s 43.
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by FoolshGame22 on
Apr 25, 2008 11:17 AM PDT
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There a bunch of other old players in MLB.
ZIPS: Milledge: 466 HR, 485 2B, 2282 hits, 278-379-524
by rfloh on
Apr 25, 2008 11:21 AM PDT
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junk-ball pitchers... maybe
and, a few roiders, who are no longer playing. But, 43-year old position players (or even DH’s)... not so many.
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by FoolshGame22 on
Apr 25, 2008 11:24 AM PDT
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because past performance is no guarantee
of anything. You’d think a former batting champ, multiple 30 hr seasons, could get ONE home run.
A precipitous fall off for a professional hitter. Do they all fall? Yes. When? A guess.
So, say Bonds does ten times better than Galarraga: is ten HRs (giving Andres a hypothetical “one”) what you want from your DH? No.
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by One won lost won on
Apr 25, 2008 12:13 PM PDT
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My brain hurts
from all the unspoken assumptions in this post.
What does Gallaraga have to do with anything?
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by PaulThomas on
Apr 25, 2008 12:33 PM PDT
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Yeah, that left me speechless.
You can’t even really offer a rebuttal there.
by notsellingjeans on
Apr 25, 2008 1:51 PM PDT
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Several questions
In your opinion, is Jose Vidro a better hitter than Barry Bonds, now? Is Carlos Delgado a better hitter than Barry Bonds, now?
Would you prefer Jose Vidro or Barry Bonds as your DH? Would you prefer Barry Bonds in the OF, Moises Alou at 1st, or Carlos Delgado at 1st, and a Moises Alou playing the OF and getting repeatedly injured?
ZIPS: Milledge: 466 HR, 485 2B, 2282 hits, 278-379-524
by rfloh on
Apr 25, 2008 1:59 PM PDT
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Heck, rfloh,
You are equal to Barry Bonds as a hitter, right now. You’ve had just as many ABs in 2008 as Bonds. If you aren’t playing, it’s moot to talk about “preferences”.
Bonds is not playing. Mickey Mantle’s not playing. At least Bonds (unlike Mantle) could walk through a clubhouse door somewhere and offer to play. He has made himself unavailable. Canseco, Rickey Henderson, they played for independent leagues, because they love the game. Some players drop their agents. By whatever method, a player will play if he can, if he wishes to play.
"I never predict anything, and I never will." Paul Gascoigne, English footballer
by One won lost won on
Apr 25, 2008 4:42 PM PDT
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Quote:
No team has made an offer at any price at any time. That’s a simple fact. At this point in time, no club has even offered the minimum salary. And even though the minimum salary wouldn’t be a bona fide offer for a player of his stature, it’s beyond comprehension that no team (has made) such an offer.—Jeff Borris, agent for Barry Bonds
No team has made an offer at any price at any time. That’s a simple fact. At this point in time, no club has even offered the minimum salary. And even though the minimum salary wouldn’t be a bona fide offer for a player of his stature, it’s beyond comprehension that no team (has made) such an offer.—Jeff Borris, agent for Barry Bonds
Where is this “made himself unavailable” line coming from? You can’t just make things up because you want them to be true.
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by PaulThomas on
Apr 25, 2008 4:56 PM PDT
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Again,
is Jose Vidro a better hitter than Barry Bonds, in your expert opinion? Is Carlos Delgado a better hitter than Barry Bonds, in your expert opinion?
Or do you now retract this statement: “Thirty teams say, "Bonds cannot catch up to a fastball any more."”?
ZIPS: Milledge: 466 HR, 485 2B, 2282 hits, 278-379-524
by rfloh on
Apr 26, 2008 1:57 AM PDT
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What does playing in an
independent league have to do with the question at hand?
The question is why Bonds in not playing IN MLB. And why no MAJOR LEAGUE BASEBALL teams have made him an offer.
ZIPS: Milledge: 466 HR, 485 2B, 2282 hits, 278-379-524
by rfloh on
Apr 26, 2008 2:02 AM PDT
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Good post
I’d likek to see them try the 14/11 roster. It seems like with this mix of players, the position player depth would come in a lot more handy than the extra reliever. I think 10 pitchers would probably really be pushing it, though, and would have the potential to cost some games. Tryiing something like this (which it looks like they’re doing for the time being) is interesting if nothing else. I’m not real eager for Foulke’s neck to heal quickly…..
I think the “alternate righties and lefties in the lineup” convention is more of a product of the fact that most teams simply can’t start all RHs or all LHs, and few can even plausibly get to 8. So as long as there’s a mix it makes sense to alternate them.
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by mikeA on Apr 24, 2008 11:35 PM PDT 1 recs
Yep
That is exactly the reason more teams don’t do it:
I think the "alternate righties and lefties in the lineup" convention is more of a product of the fact that most teams simply can’t start all RHs or all LHs, and few can even plausibly get to 8. So as long as there’s a mix it makes sense to alternate them.
But, with the current A’s roster, do you think Billy built it on purpose or by accident? Cuz if and when Chavvy comes back, we have almost a platoon “Super Lineup” for every game.
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by FoolshGame22 on
Apr 24, 2008 11:41 PM PDT
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my vote is for on purpose via accidents/happenstance
In my recollection, the A’s under Beane have had multiple platoon opportunities that they’ve not taken advantage of—and have passed on numerous cheap/available platoon players (Dellucci, Catalanotto, etc.). They’ve also run players into the ground, hung onto veterans with lousy/declining stats and/or demonstrable platoon differentials, and overvalued replacement-level starters with guaranteed contracts.
I think there’s been a unique chain of circumstances leading to Beane’s current roster configuration (most significantly the decision to rebuild the farm system and Chavvy’s health status), but/and that Beane has recognized how to maximize production from a “rebuilding” roster without any clear, consistent superstars.
I wouldn’t expect this approach to carry over beyond this year and (perhaps) next.
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