White Sox in a Coma
The A's win the game tonight, 2-1, with Greg Smith picking up the win and the former Royals Mike Sweeney and Emil Brown enjoying playing against their former rivals in the Southsiders. Kurt Suzuki had a career high four hits. The Sox made it interesting in the ninth, but a key foul tip catch on a strike out by Suzuki followed by a weak ground out to Huston Street by Joe Crede, ended the game.
Yes, Greg Smith was pretty beautiful tonight. Seven innings pitched, six hits and only one earned run. He did it with all kinds of tricks. Everything from a deadly change up away to a nasty pickoff move that bordered on a balk twice, once on former Athletic Nick Swisher and one on the other former Athletic Jermaine Dye. Smith was remarkably impressive particularly in the second inning when Buck wound up losing a ball out of his glove that he probably should've caught (granted it was a tough diving catch, but he almost dove too far) and Barton committed a brutal error on a Quentin ball dribbling up the first base line. He was also nasty in the bottom of the fourth when he struck out Thome, Konerko and got Dye to pop up. Smith very much reminds me of Jamie Moyer because he lives on the outer half of the plate and relies on fastball, change and a nice cutter. Course he throws a bit harder than Moyer ever dreamed of throwing.
Nick Swisher was pumped to face his former team as he was on base three out of four times, scored a run and nearly tied the game with a shot that almost got out but was flagged down by Chris Denorfia.
But Mike Sweeney obviously liked coming back to Chicago and facing his former AL Central rivals as he scored both runs for the A's. You can't say enough about Suzuki this game though. His pitch calling was stellar, he had four hits and made a HUGE play by catching a ball that Carlos Quentin tipped for the strikeout with two men on and one out in the ninth. Suzuki was brilliant and for all the pub that Barton and Buck have gotten going into the season, Suzuki has been the true stellar youngster out of the gate for this young squad.
I did want to say that I didn't really understand the A's continuing to try and bunt in the top of the ninth inning with Jack Hannahan even with two strikes. I understood the thinking prior to him going down 1-2, but once he was down 1-2 and judging from how poor he looked trying to even make contact for a bunt, you have to pull the sign off at that junction. You probably would've had the same result as the strikeout that happened, but I just think that a manager has to pay attention to how the batter looks trying to bunt. Especially once it gets to two strikes.
Travis Buck once again looked lost again at the plate, but that could be that he was just facing a tough lefty in Buerhle. I liked Double Bonanza Buck better than the Clueless Buck we saw tonight.
One of the interesting things about living outside of the A's media market is that I now get the other teams announcers waaaaaaay too often. And without a doubt, Hawk Harrelson is the king of all idiots when it comes to play-by-play. He was yelling, "Get up, get up" when Swisher hit his ball to the wall off Santiago Casilla. He constantly refers to his team as "us" and "we". Yo, douche lord, you aren't on the field. It's like Rex Hudler who sits in the broadcast booth holding a baseball during his work. I'm just glad I didn't have to hear his moronic "You can put it on the board" home run call tonight. Thank you, A's pitching for that.
I still can't believe how well this young team is pitching and these aren't even supposed to be the "stars" the A's got in the trades. That falls more to Gio Gonzalez and Brett Anderson. Yet, here they go and here we are. I'm going to get in that spaceship and ride while it lasts (thank you, Englishmajor).
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That was neat.
stat-addled alien overlord
by salb918 on
Apr 14, 2008 8:09 PM PDT
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LOL
All right, that's it, back to the basement with you.
And yes, I know, that IS what she said.
by Blez on
Apr 14, 2008 8:17 PM PDT
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That's what she said!
I just wanted to join in on the fun.

A's WIN!!
Green Hulk Fists
by oaklandSMASH on
Apr 14, 2008 8:20 PM PDT
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Jackyl said it best- DIRTY LITTLE MIND
"Derek Lowe is an ass."
-ohtobe21likehuston
by ohtobe21likehuston on
Apr 14, 2008 8:19 PM PDT
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Nice summation, Blez.
This team is hella fun to watch even if they did only score 2 runs. We may all be surprised this year.
"Derek Lowe is an ass."
-ohtobe21likehuston
by ohtobe21likehuston on
Apr 14, 2008 8:20 PM PDT
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The Oakland A's have the best record in the American League.
WTF?
So it goes.
by jeepers on
Apr 14, 2008 8:21 PM PDT
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It's twue. It's twue.
"Derek Lowe is an ass."
-ohtobe21likehuston
by ohtobe21likehuston on
Apr 14, 2008 8:22 PM PDT
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Awesome!!
Can we keep it?
Green Hulk Fists
by oaklandSMASH on
Apr 14, 2008 8:25 PM PDT
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That's right Blez
make sure you mention the White Sox "have to play the team with the best record in the American League" now ....
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by Vacafan on
Apr 14, 2008 8:51 PM PDT
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lol
Blez is becoming a believer... reluctantly. He just knew the Angels were better because everybody said so. And, he lives down in SoCal now, so he believes the hype.
Go A's!
by FoolshGame22 on
Apr 14, 2008 10:34 PM PDT
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oh, and, bear88, too...
not going to let him off the hook.
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by FoolshGame22 on
Apr 14, 2008 11:21 PM PDT
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great fun watching Smith, Suzuki and the KC guys
but that top of ninth bunt stuff was f-ugly
by OaklandSi on
Apr 14, 2008 8:23 PM PDT
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Typical SoCal Fan
No credit for a great game plan by the staff. Instead the Grand Poobah of An calls it :"tricks".
by bamaA'sfan on
Apr 14, 2008 8:27 PM PDT
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I really, really am getting attached to this team
How much fun is it right now? These guys are really playing like a team. Well, except for the bunting part.
Prince: This bores me. Is anyone up for a game of basketball?
by baseb3383 on
Apr 14, 2008 8:27 PM PDT
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More Money for Korach's Foundation!
If you haven't signed up yet as a contributer, it's time to get on board. Just put your name on this list.
Let's get at least one additional new contributer per victory. C'mon!
by SportySpice on
Apr 14, 2008 8:28 PM PDT
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Street looked odd too
He was completely and totally terrible for the first three batters - slider bouncing on infield grass, no life on fastball, control MIA. Then after the mound visit it was like a switch went on, the slider started biting, and the inning was over.
by MrIncognito on
Apr 14, 2008 8:30 PM PDT
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Eh
He struck out Konerko and looked fine doing that. (Konerko didn’t… I’d be surprised if he’s starting tomorrow.)
The only really bad pitch was the hanger that Dye smacked for a single. He was wild on a few others (although actually not the Pierzynski pitch—he turned into that one) but his slider was clearly devastating given the number of swingthroughs he had.
Your 2008 Athletics: It's Nothing Personal.
by PaulThomas on
Apr 14, 2008 11:27 PM PDT
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I have a scary feeling...
That the good pitching this year is going to take a similar course to the good pitching early last year.
We'll enjoy it while it lasts, I guess!
by RenoTy on
Apr 14, 2008 8:33 PM PDT
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The difference being...
We're winning THESE games.
Not so much last year.
So, bring on Bonds! Or, not... then, bring back Langerhans!! -One won lost one
by baseballgirl on
Apr 14, 2008 9:13 PM PDT
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Consider it enjoyed. :)
Please Oh Please oh please let it stick around until... let's say.... October. :)
by Gromit1025 on
Apr 14, 2008 8:37 PM PDT
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Smith has been so good.
This is so much fun.
by IM4Oakgal on
Apr 14, 2008 8:38 PM PDT
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Nice recap
Seriously, weren't CarGon and GioGon supposed to be the studs in the offseason trades? Eveland and Smith seemed to be the after thoughts, and they are playing so well. I can't wait until they all mature a little bit. I think that is the most exciting part of the team playing so well, the top "talent" still isn't with the club yet.
Its funny that 25 yr old Street seems old.....
How long can Suzuki keep this up?
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Apr 14, 2008 8:38 PM PDT
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Looks like Stew
Away back when, when the world was young, baseball was young, and even I was young(ish), the A's had a castoff pitcher named Dave Stewart. If he survived the first inning, it seems like the win was guaranteed.
Street looks like that. Get him past the the first two batters (generally), and he's dominant. It's those first two ...(or three)
by As Fan in the Bronx on
Apr 14, 2008 8:45 PM PDT
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Street doesn't remind me of stewie.
Recently, He is reminding me of a few closers I would prefer to forget. But he got the save, so it's all good.
by IM4Oakgal on
Apr 14, 2008 8:51 PM PDT
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Street gives me nightmares everytime...
he comes into a game. I’d ratther see Embree close things out. And, he’s a gascan waiting to happen, so that’s saying a lot.
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by FoolshGame22 on
Apr 14, 2008 10:55 PM PDT
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Wow. That's pretty bad.
Since, you know, Embree can’t get righties out.
by mikev on
Apr 15, 2008 9:13 AM PDT
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Another big hit by Emil Brown tonight
But someone will surely mention how much they hate him, and how much he sucks, and how stupid the A's are for keepin' him .... idiots.
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by Vacafan on
Apr 14, 2008 8:56 PM PDT
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I still say it.
One hit every night only guarantees that you'll never be no-hit... other than that it still means a low OBP and a very low OPS.
"I'm not going to buy my kids an encyclopedia. Let them walk to school like I did." -Yogi Berra
by brenarlo on
Apr 14, 2008 9:17 PM PDT
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Could you list the top 5 A's OPS for me?
Where does Brown fall on the list? Also, please explain to me why those lower than Brown don't get the grief he does ... I can't speak for you, but I guarantee you that the reason many AN'ers profess their hatred for Brown is because a couple stat-geeks on this site decided they don't like him, and the masses followed them off the cliff.
I'm not a huge Emil Brown fan, but I root for him because he's come up with some big hits already this year ... just wondering how an A's fan could hate someone after 14 friggin' games.
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by Vacafan on
Apr 14, 2008 10:15 PM PDT
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I suspect two factors are at play,
one more fair than the other:
1. His baserunning blunder on Opening Night (unfair - it was one play, ever)
2. He has no long-term efficacy - he is true mid-90s type "filler" that screams "we're not serious about being anything more than OK!" (fair - when the A's are contenders, you'll know it because there will be no room for players like Emil Brown).
But the guy has not only done a good job, he has done well in precisely the ways we have been craving - contact with a guy at third and one out, hits with RISP, makes our lineup better against LHP, etc.
So wheydaluv indeed?
I like Cindi. A. She never pretends to know more than she does. B. She has unbridled enthusiasm for her "Hotties," and isn't afraid to show it. -IM4Oakgal
by Nico on
Apr 14, 2008 10:19 PM PDT
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dude... I hate to tell you this...
but, the A's are contenders. They own the best record in the AL. I know, you and Blez and Monkeyball thinks that's going to change. It's not.
Foolsh, the most insane regular poster on AN since oaktoon left - salb
by FoolshGame22 on
Apr 14, 2008 10:44 PM PDT
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thinks=think, of course
Foolsh, the most insane regular poster on AN since oaktoon left - salb
by FoolshGame22 on
Apr 14, 2008 10:57 PM PDT
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Wanna bet?
:)
There is an A in Whimsy.
by FreeSeatUpgrade on
Apr 15, 2008 8:43 AM PDT
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actually, you misread me
I basically argued that the A’s will contend through Juy and August, then fade down the stretch.
And as I said, if Lackey and Vlad both miss significant time, the division is up for grabs.
And what did we do once we discovered a rift in the fourth dimension? We launched a monkey into it. @('.')@
by monkeyball on
Apr 15, 2008 9:27 AM PDT
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And in Spring Training I predicted an 86 win season
That’s considered optimistic by most accounts.
I like Cindi. A. She never pretends to know more than she does. B. She has unbridled enthusiasm for her "Hotties," and isn't afraid to show it. -IM4Oakgal
by Nico on
Apr 15, 2008 7:55 PM PDT
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more optimistic than me
And what did we do once we discovered a rift in the fourth dimension? We launched a monkey into it. @('.')@
by monkeyball on
Apr 16, 2008 2:28 PM PDT
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Settle down...
His OPS is .661. That is 7th on the team among players with over 20 ABs. The reason I mentioned him was because you mentioned him first.
Just because i think he's a bad to very bad player doesn't mean i don't want him to do well in Oakland. Just the opposite... I want him to be fighting for the AL MVP with Buck, Ellis, and Barton. I just don't think it'll happen and I think he's lucky for getting the so-called "big" hits.
Put it this way. If Brown hit the ball in other ABs maybe he doesn't need to come through in the "clutch".
Also, why should he be hitting poorly when we could have a younger player hitting poorly? At the very least Brown should be coming off the bench.
"I'm not going to buy my kids an encyclopedia. Let them walk to school like I did." -Yogi Berra
by brenarlo on
Apr 14, 2008 10:22 PM PDT
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Brown
The dude hits LHP : Career 114 OPS+ vs. LHP - (Large Sample Size - Correct me if I'm wrong, but that is the best on the current 25-Man Roster). I agree in part...Emil Brown shouldn't be playing against RHP he can't handle (or hasn't handled in the past).
2008 vs. LHP - .318/.348/.500 (sss)
2008 w/ RISP - .444/.545/.778 (sss)
He's earned the right to start vs. LHP ... He should also PH vs. LHP late in games. Spot start him vs. RHP he's held his own with in the past. That should equal about 400 AB's. This is a good thing, IMO. When CarGon is ready, Beane can deal Emil Brown to a team w/ a need.
Are the A's any better than 6-8 w/o Emil Brown? I don't think they are.
by Colorado Fan on
Apr 14, 2008 10:37 PM PDT
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To clarify,
that 114 number you are getting is not OPS+.
Emil Brown has a tOPS+ of 114 against LHP, and a tOPS+ of 93 against RHP. Yet, his overall OPS+ is 89. Doesn’t pass the smell test, if tOPS+ is OPS+.
It’s not. Basically what tOPS+ means in Emil Brown’s case, is that he is 14 percent better against LHP relative to EMIL BROWN’s average OPS. NOT relative to league average.
ZIPS: Milledge: 466 HR, 485 2B, 2282 hits, 278-379-524
by rfloh on
Apr 15, 2008 12:01 AM PDT
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THE MOON OR BUST!

The candy and the baseball all night long: )
by Englishmajor on
Apr 14, 2008 8:56 PM PDT
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how old is he?
Foolsh, the most insane regular poster on AN since oaktoon left - salb
by FoolshGame22 on
Apr 14, 2008 10:49 PM PDT
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No idea
He’s the child of someone who posts their family photos on the Internet with labels like “spaceship cardboard box”.
The candy and the baseball all night long: )
by Englishmajor on
Apr 14, 2008 11:28 PM PDT
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ahhh...
I’ll have to give Galt his own spaceship cardboard box and dress him in all his A’s gear. I think that’ll be a hit on AN.
Foolsh, the most insane regular poster on AN since oaktoon left - salb
by FoolshGame22 on
Apr 14, 2008 11:36 PM PDT
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you should let him make his own ...
... then, when you start trying to impose safety and social conditions on his design, he can blow it up.
(I know, I know, mixing characters/books.)
And what did we do once we discovered a rift in the fourth dimension? We launched a monkey into it. @('.')@
by monkeyball on
Apr 15, 2008 9:30 AM PDT
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The A's are funkadelic, baby

I'm here to talk about the past.
by 67MARQUEZ on
Apr 15, 2008 4:36 AM PDT
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Interesting things about the game
Greg Smith could be one of those finesse pitchers whom the league figures out after a while. Then again, he could be Tom Glavine. Or Kenny Rogers with that pickoff move. It's hard to tell. But the White Sox kept getting fooled by the same stuff, which either means that changeup is really good or nobody in the American League has adjusted yet. I'm betting on the latter, and there are plenty of elite pitchers who make a really good living on a great changeup and good composure.
-- Suzuki isn't going to continue at his current, ridiculous pace. But he doesn't need to do so. He's doing just about everything you can ask.
-- I still like Swisher a lot, even though he almost beat the A's by himself.
-- It's lucky the White Sox kept swinging at Street's off-the-plate stuff.
-- Mike Sweeney can still hit.
by bear88 on
Apr 14, 2008 8:59 PM PDT
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Lucky Or Very Good (Street)?
Laying off Street's Breaking Stuff is hard to do (For tonight at least). The Slider looks like a fastball for about 58 ft. It had great late break. Tough for Righthanders to layoff.
by Colorado Fan on
Apr 14, 2008 9:54 PM PDT
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Credit where credit is due, man
Street kept throwing the slider because the Sox kept swinging at it.
I don’t think I’ve ever seen consecutive batters swing and miss at the exact same pitch five times before, but they did it…
Your 2008 Athletics: It's Nothing Personal.
by PaulThomas on
Apr 14, 2008 11:14 PM PDT
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Except
anyone vs. Mariano Rivera in the late 90s early 2000s
by Future Ed on
Apr 15, 2008 5:38 AM PDT
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Good point
I should have said offspeed pitch.
Your 2008 Athletics: It's Nothing Personal.
by PaulThomas on
Apr 15, 2008 8:05 AM PDT
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Taking shots at Rex Hudler
Thank jeebus he's been (mostly) relegated to radio-- the man is the living embodiment of a golden retriever:
*orange colouring
*ALWAYS HAS BALL
*goofy/happy
*BALL BALL BALL
*somewhat lacking in, shall we say, acuity?
*WANNA PLAY BALL (pant pant, drool)
Living in Angel territory I have to say.. I hate them a lot less when Rex doesn't participate in the broadcast.
by woosht on
Apr 14, 2008 9:05 PM PDT
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Hahahahahaha
that was soooooooo perfect.
So, bring on Bonds! Or, not... then, bring back Langerhans!! -One won lost one
by baseballgirl on
Apr 14, 2008 9:15 PM PDT
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Completely agree
As a matter of fact, I was so excited at the beginning of the year with the other two on the broadcast that I emailed Rev Halofan and asked him if they finally got rid of Physioc and Hudler. Sadly, he informed me that they would just be alternating radio and TV. I can't imagine what Hudler would be like on radio. He's painful enough on TV.
by Blez on
Apr 14, 2008 10:02 PM PDT
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totally agree about the announcers
Man, those guys were AWFUL! I was figuring that someone would post a fan thread, but nice to see the issue getting some top billing.
I can’t believe the announcers used “We” and were basically the two drunk guys behind you in the stands yelling and he-hawing. Did they offer real analysis? Nope, just fans watching the game. Terrible job. You couldn’t even tell what was going on on the field whenever there was a hit.
It's just more exciting with Billy Beane running the team.
by ru155 on
Apr 15, 2008 6:48 AM PDT
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and
how about Suzuki's handling of the pitching staff-- what a great move to clear out Kendall (even though I loved having him on the squad) last year and get Suzuki some experience-- he's calling great games and getting awesome performances from the new guys as well.
by woosht on
Apr 14, 2008 9:10 PM PDT
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buck looks like a guy
who should (for now) be sitting against lefties, or at least hitting down in the order...way down.
by skutch on
Apr 14, 2008 9:12 PM PDT
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His decisions and demeanor at the plate could use some work.
The meaning of life is not so much 'found,' as it is 'made.' --Opus
by The Dogfather on
Apr 14, 2008 9:17 PM PDT
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agreed, which is why it would seem wise
to drop him in the order, take him out of the limelight, take some pressure off him to be the straw that stirs the drink...
by skutch on
Apr 14, 2008 9:22 PM PDT
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Or give him a ski mask,
so no one can see his poor demeanor.
I like Cindi. A. She never pretends to know more than she does. B. She has unbridled enthusiasm for her "Hotties," and isn't afraid to show it. -IM4Oakgal
by Nico on
Apr 14, 2008 9:24 PM PDT
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or put a bag completely over his head and make him hit
using just The Force.
by skutch on
Apr 14, 2008 9:26 PM PDT
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Wait, did someone say "mattress" to Mr. Lambert?
I like Cindi. A. She never pretends to know more than she does. B. She has unbridled enthusiasm for her "Hotties," and isn't afraid to show it. -IM4Oakgal
by Nico on
Apr 14, 2008 9:28 PM PDT
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Those moves to first were things of beauty.
Typically, ESPN completely ignored them, at least on SportsCenter. BB2N on later.
The meaning of life is not so much 'found,' as it is 'made.' --Opus
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Apr 14, 2008 9:16 PM PDT
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Over at the Giants game
Yabu is pitching, reasonably well, and just got crapped on by a pigeon.
The candy and the baseball all night long: )
by Englishmajor on
Apr 14, 2008 9:20 PM PDT
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Somebody tell ESPN, so they can get a shot of Matsuzaka!
The reason I think Smith could maintain his success, rather than being one of those guys the league figures out, is that his reputation is for being a thinking man's pitcher - he has good enough stuff (mostly by way of command) that if he adjusts better than the league he'll be fine. He seems to have that poise/style. There's a reason the A's liked this guy - and he was only a "throw-in" in the way Mark Ellis was a throw-in in the Johnny Damon deal - maybe a throw-in from the other team's point of view, but not from the A's.
I like Cindi. A. She never pretends to know more than she does. B. She has unbridled enthusiasm for her "Hotties," and isn't afraid to show it. -IM4Oakgal
by Nico on
Apr 14, 2008 9:24 PM PDT
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Whoever runs the power ratings on sfgate has the A's ...
... second in the AL, after the Sawx.
Uh-oh.
And the Warriors made it offal tonight.
The meaning of life is not so much 'found,' as it is 'made.' --Opus
by The Dogfather on
Apr 14, 2008 9:37 PM PDT
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"Offal"
Please tell me that was on purpose.
by Joey C. on
Apr 14, 2008 10:00 PM PDT
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You'll just have to stick around and decide for yourself.
Although that won’t help with the Rule in Shelly’s Case.
The meaning of life is not so much 'found,' as it is 'made.' --Opus
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Apr 15, 2008 12:16 AM PDT
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I hate Steve Nash.
I meant to mention that when I was in Phoenix, but I forgot.
"Huston, you're hot!'' said first baseman Dan Johnson, dressed as a bottle of mustard.
by Poppy on
Apr 14, 2008 10:03 PM PDT
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I love Nash...
Watching him play basketball is just a pleasure.
Bring back Hammer.
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Apr 14, 2008 11:34 PM PDT
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Watching the game updates on Yahoo
I have the same reaction I've had for most of the season. We should have traded Street before the season started. He's just not a closer. Seems like a great guy, and I know the girls love him, but he's just not the bulldog we need closing. When was the last time you felt comfortable in a Save situation?
"...Butler going back...he can't make the catch! One run scores, Weiss scores, it's a double for Moore!" - Lon Simmons
by Mike Moore Batting Cleanup on
Apr 14, 2008 9:38 PM PDT
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Since when does feeling comfortable matter?
I'll take the end result, I'll just question the means.
by ChadGod on
Apr 14, 2008 9:41 PM PDT
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+1
you know who else makes their fans uncomfortable? Joe Borowski.
but i think we can all agree there’s a big difference btwn Huston and Joe.
(man i feel for those tribe fans. looking at this thread, you can see they are just fearing the last inning for the entire game. and then, that happens.)
(also how sad is it that the slogan at the top of their blog is “Death, Taxes, Borowski”)
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2005, when Street was our closer
Or did you expect me to say Dotel, or Rhodes, or Koch...? Street's not "light's out" but few are - he is, at least, pretty good. Unlike Joe Borowski, who gave it up to Boston tonight to the tune of 3 ER in 0.2 IP. Let's hear it for the reigning saves leader!
I like Cindi. A. She never pretends to know more than she does. B. She has unbridled enthusiasm for her "Hotties," and isn't afraid to show it. -IM4Oakgal
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Apr 14, 2008 9:42 PM PDT
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Yes.
Street is a really, really good pitcher.
We officially achieve absurdity the moment we start lambasting him for not making us "comfortable enough". I think many of us tend to carry around this notion that closers are supposed to slice through lineups in dominating, 1-2-3, lights out fashion all the time, that no one ever gets a hit off Papelbon or Rivera or any of the real "bulldogs". But that's just, you know, completely wrong.
Baseball-Reference and 10 minutes to kill is a dangerous thing ...
Street appearances with no baserunners allowed ("comfortable"), 06-07:
51 out of 119 total (43%)
Last year:
Nathan: 27/68 (40%)
Rivera: 23/67 (34%)
KRod: 21/64 (33%)
Papelbon: 29/59 (49%)
I don't present this (highly imperfect) sample as any kind of argument on behalf of Street versus other elite closers. I'm not saying he's better or worse than those guys. I am saying, however, that if you're pining for some mythical rugged steam breathing closer who never allows bat to meet ball and makes 9th inning fridge and bathroom trips plausible ... well, he doesn't really exist. Baserunners happen. Even against the best closers. It's okay. We'll all live. And it doesn't mean Street sucks.
by 74mk on
Apr 14, 2008 10:18 PM PDT
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Actually, that corroborates my theory as to
how Street could simultaneously have such great peripherals and pedestrian save %s - that when he DOES successfully save a game, it's very, very often with a tidy 1-2-3 frame. How else do you only succeed in 75% of your chances and still put up a WHIP of 1.00, low ERA, high K/9, etc.?
I like Cindi. A. She never pretends to know more than she does. B. She has unbridled enthusiasm for her "Hotties," and isn't afraid to show it. -IM4Oakgal
by Nico on
Apr 14, 2008 10:22 PM PDT
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Is 43% "very, very often"?
I guess you're arguing that he's either really, really good or really, really terrible? I don't know. I think those sorts of theories are often overwrought; in the absence of any inclination (or ability) to dig further, I'll side with PT and others, and mark the peripherals/results incongruence down to chance.
My point is that, more often than not, for everyone, the 9th isn't airtight. Criticizing Street for allowing baserunners (not runs, mind you) strikes me as silly hyperventilating nonsense perhaps a bit unfair.
by 74mk on
Apr 14, 2008 10:41 PM PDT
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He's wrong
Devo and I already exploded the “he’s on or he’s off” theory on the last Street thread… his past appearances are completely within the realm of normal performance given his peripherals.
Perhaps even more importantly, even if a guy has a lot of 1-2-3 innings one year, there’s no reason to believe that it’s more than a coincidence (unless a guy is visibly tipping pitches out of the stretch or something).
Your 2008 Athletics: It's Nothing Personal.
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Apr 14, 2008 11:22 PM PDT
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Painful Win
I like the new guys, I'm very excited about the guys in the minors. But I really miss Swisher. He was far from the greatest former A's player but he sure had one of the best personalities. It still stings to see him in another Jersey. I'm glad he did well and the A's still won.
Smith Looks awesome so far, hope he can keep it up.
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Apr 14, 2008 9:44 PM PDT
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Hawk's Call
"That Ball Hit Hard Into Centerfield... STRETCH!!! STRETCH!!!... He Looks up!"
"NOOOOOOOO!!! NOOOOOOOOOO!!!"
(Long Silence)
"Dag-Gonnit!!!"
... Then bluntly blames it on the Wind & Cold.
The commentary between Hawk Harrelson & Darrin Jackson about Swisher is absolutely comical. They think Swisher makes them a World Series Team because of his clubhouse demeanor... And, the reason the White Sox lost 90 games last year was due to Clubhouse Chemistry. I think Kenny Williams might be listening. HAHA!
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Apr 14, 2008 9:49 PM PDT
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Swish did have clubhouse chemistry...
I’d rather have somebody who can play center field.
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by FoolshGame22 on
Apr 14, 2008 11:25 PM PDT
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That was ridiculous.
Notice how they got more homerish as the game went on?
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Nickname
Greg Smith needs a nickname. The following have been used/offered:
1. Smitty (like that's an improvement)
2. Smithers (see #1)
3. Lil Moyer/Young Moyer (sounds like a rapper from the early '90's)
4. Young Glavine (see #2)
5. Glavish
and my personal favorite: 5. Nuke.
Others?
Also, for Chris Denorfia, I think from now on I'm going with a version of Fosse's "Denorfeus" and just call him "Norfeus" (Morpheus' second cousin by marriage, twice removed).
"With those who don't give a damn about baseball, I can only sympathize. I do not resent them. I am even willing to concede that many of them are physically clean, good to their mothers and in favor of world peace. But while the game is on, I can't think of anything to say to them."
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How about "Gerg"?
Just to underscore how hard his names are to pronounce or remember?
I like Cindi. A. She never pretends to know more than she does. B. She has unbridled enthusiasm for her "Hotties," and isn't afraid to show it. -IM4Oakgal
by Nico on
Apr 14, 2008 9:56 PM PDT
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In case I've never typed it...
I love they way your brain works.
I was thinking something like "Vanilla"... his name, his pitching (at first it's dull, then it's smooth and creamy ;->)
I forgot to add to the list of Smith nicknames that, according to Big Sweeney, the team calls Smith "Tom Glavine Jr." Correct me if I'm wrong but that violates some rule about the allowable length of a nickname.
"With those who don't give a damn about baseball, I can only sympathize. I do not resent them. I am even willing to concede that many of them are physically clean, good to their mothers and in favor of world peace. But while the game is on, I can't think of anything to say to them."
by 149 on
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There is no Big Sweeney -
There's just "Good Sweeney" and "Bad Sweeney". Stop confusing my mom.
Oh, and thanks - just for being one of the few to suggest that my brain works at all.
I like Cindi. A. She never pretends to know more than she does. B. She has unbridled enthusiasm for her "Hotties," and isn't afraid to show it. -IM4Oakgal
by Nico on
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got it
Good Sweeney, Bad Sweeny
Big Jack, Little Jack (aka Thing 1 and Thing 2)
sorry mom.
"With those who don't give a damn about baseball, I can only sympathize. I do not resent them. I am even willing to concede that many of them are physically clean, good to their mothers and in favor of world peace. But while the game is on, I can't think of anything to say to them."
by 149 on
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Greg Smith's Nickname
"With those who don't give a damn about baseball, I can only sympathize. I do not resent them. I am even willing to concede that many of them are physically clean, good to their mothers and in favor of world peace. But while the game is on, I can't think of anything to say to them."
by 149 on
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Someone offered "Pickin' Machine"
I like the Moneyball tie-in.
Or maybe just "Pick" or "Picker."
by Joey C. on
Apr 14, 2008 10:02 PM PDT
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oh yeah
Picker was mine... you'd think I'd remember that.
I think we need a poll.
"With those who don't give a damn about baseball, I can only sympathize. I do not resent them. I am even willing to concede that many of them are physically clean, good to their mothers and in favor of world peace. But while the game is on, I can't think of anything to say to them."
by 149 on
Apr 14, 2008 10:03 PM PDT
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Um... Picker conveys something different to me
Different and very, um, elementary school-esque.
Your 2008 Athletics: It's Nothing Personal.
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Apr 14, 2008 11:28 PM PDT
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What's wrong with this picture?
Baltimore leads the AL East.
Kansas City leads the AL Central.
Oakland leads the AL West and has the best record in the league (for today, I know, wet blanket, small sample size, etc., etc., blahblahblah)
I freaking love it.
Can we keep small-sample-size Bobby Crosby? Please? -Joey C.
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Apr 14, 2008 10:09 PM PDT
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Boy, if the season ended today,
...well, I think we'd all be a bit surprised.
I like Cindi. A. She never pretends to know more than she does. B. She has unbridled enthusiasm for her "Hotties," and isn't afraid to show it. -IM4Oakgal
by Nico on
Apr 14, 2008 10:11 PM PDT
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How much would Bud Selig squirm
if the Orioles, Royals and A's were the division winners in 2008? Good GOD, that would be brilliant.
by Blez on
Apr 14, 2008 10:31 PM PDT
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Still No Love For Emil Brown?
I had to go to www.SouthSideSox.com for this tidbit:
"Emil Brown had a heckuva game as well. There were three balls hit to left field that I thought were doubles off the bat, and he held the Sox to singles on each occasion. He drove in the what proved to be the game winning run as well."
I mean seriously, would we be 6-8 (at best) w/o Emil Brown holding it down vs. Lester, Sabathia (2), and Buerhle?
by Colorado Fan on
Apr 14, 2008 10:22 PM PDT
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I mentioned Emil right at the top
But yeah, he did get to a few different balls that could've likely been hustle doubles.
by Blez on
Apr 14, 2008 10:33 PM PDT
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Italics
Brown was only mentioned in the Italic portion of the write up. Robots write that part, don't they?
by Colorado Fan on
Apr 14, 2008 10:40 PM PDT
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robots also wrote moneyball
"It's like déjà vu all over again." -yogi berra
by Cheezombie on
Apr 14, 2008 10:48 PM PDT
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Not really
Unless I’m secretly the T-1000.
Can anyone here tell me where Connor, Sarah might reside?
by Blez on
Apr 14, 2008 11:12 PM PDT
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LAAAAAAA
"It's like déjà vu all over again." -yogi berra
by Cheezombie on
Apr 14, 2008 11:13 PM PDT
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That's just lazy.
Use the phone book
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Apr 15, 2008 12:01 AM PDT
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wait a second...
(once again showing off my dorkness)
if you are the T-1000, shouldn’t you be looking for John Connor, and have a brother who used to play in NIN?
"Camelot sure fell apart, didn't it?"-Steve McCatty
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Apr 15, 2008 8:53 AM PDT
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Anyone else on Firefox 3
having an issue with installing the new SilverLight plugin?
Can we keep small-sample-size Bobby Crosby? Please? -Joey C.
by pam5981 on
Apr 14, 2008 10:24 PM PDT
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I gave up, and just use media player now
I downloaded it twice, installed it, and shut down and everything, but it kept telling me I didn't have it installed.
The A's colors are green and gold.
by mikeA on
Apr 14, 2008 10:42 PM PDT
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Yes, I was going to post something like this.
I switched back to the old player for the meantime as well.
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Nice write up, Blez!
I hate when the A's play the White Sox because I always have to listen to those idiots. I am happy Harden did his usual thing this early on in the season so we could be introduced to Greg Smith and Dana Eveland, and I love this team! It just feels like something special is going on and during the 40th anniversary, no less! Go A's!
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Apr 14, 2008 10:25 PM PDT
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It's hard to imagine Harden pitching any better
than Smith and Eveland have. (Especially left-handed.)
I like Cindi. A. She never pretends to know more than she does. B. She has unbridled enthusiasm for her "Hotties," and isn't afraid to show it. -IM4Oakgal
by Nico on
Apr 14, 2008 10:27 PM PDT
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the beauty of this team...
we don’t need Harden to win. He’s just gravy.
Foolsh, the most insane regular poster on AN since oaktoon left - salb
by FoolshGame22 on
Apr 14, 2008 11:14 PM PDT
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Haha...cmon
We are not even 20 games into the season. To win this division, the team will need significant contributions from Hardden and Duchsherer. I love the pitching so far….but let’s not get ahead of ourselves.
Bring back Hammer.
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Apr 14, 2008 11:37 PM PDT
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marking down OaktownPower as a...
non-believer.
Foolsh, the most insane regular poster on AN since oaktoon left - salb
by FoolshGame22 on
Apr 14, 2008 11:41 PM PDT
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Oh crap, there's a list...
people are gonna get blackballed at the end of the season.
Can we keep small-sample-size Bobby Crosby? Please? -Joey C.
by pam5981 on
Apr 14, 2008 11:46 PM PDT
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mie-season...
but, you’ve got the blogmaster on your side, so the odds of getting balckballed are in you favor.
Foolsh, the most insane regular poster on AN since oaktoon left - salb
by FoolshGame22 on
Apr 15, 2008 12:05 AM PDT
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i think i meant mid-season...
and “your favor”... but, I only edit after posting.
Foolsh, the most insane regular poster on AN since oaktoon left - salb
by FoolshGame22 on
Apr 15, 2008 12:10 AM PDT
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How very Nixonian of you
Add me along side of OTPower, Blez, Monkeyball, Leonard Woodcock, Ed Guthman, and Ronald V. Dellums.
There is an A in Whimsy.
by FreeSeatUpgrade on
Apr 15, 2008 8:49 AM PDT
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So if I say
that the team is great and may do better than expected, is that a non-denial denial?
"Camelot sure fell apart, didn't it?"-Steve McCatty
by 5Aces on
Apr 15, 2008 8:55 AM PDT
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Hmm. Maybe we can form a task force
to discuss this.
Can we keep small-sample-size Bobby Crosby? Please? -Joey C.
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Apr 15, 2008 10:01 AM PDT
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wrong food group
Harden’s toast.
And what did we do once we discovered a rift in the fourth dimension? We launched a monkey into it. @('.')@
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Apr 15, 2008 9:35 AM PDT
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Did anyone notice
that MLBTV got rid of condensed games? I'm really bummed about that. Anybody going to see the A's on 4/27in Seattle? Also on 7/12 in Oakland? And good one, Nico! You're very clever and quick! Maybe Harden should start pitching lefthanded? Couldn't hurt! Or in his case, it probably would anyway!
by A'sfansince1970 on
Apr 14, 2008 10:30 PM PDT
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I just complained to MLB via eMail
They sent me 5 auto responses, and then this (this is a cut and paste)
Response (Anisa Hoxha) – 04/15/2008 12:34 PM
Dear Fan:
Thank you for sending your email. We appreciate your feedback.
We have discontinue the condensed games .
If you have further question please call the toll-free customer service hotline at 1-866-800-1275 . Thank you again for taking the time to write!
Truly, MLB hates baseball, and wants to make damned sure that no child ever wants to play or watch. Unless they’re in this God Forsaken City, or the other one to the North East.
by As Fan in the Bronx on
Apr 15, 2008 9:50 AM PDT
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Holy crap
The Giants game is full of exciting highlights, for once. After Yabu was pooped on by a pigeon, Mark Reynolds of the Diamondbacks fell head-first into a photographers' pit while chasing down a foul ball. Fortunately he seems to be okay.
The candy and the baseball all night long: )
by Englishmajor on
Apr 14, 2008 10:34 PM PDT
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Eh that's not that interesting.
Now if a photographer would have pooped on him, then you’d have something.
by Dilferules on
Apr 15, 2008 12:57 PM PDT
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I'm sad no one caught my Smiths reference
in the headline :-(
by Blez on
Apr 14, 2008 11:20 PM PDT
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ummm... too subtle...
when they actually are.
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by FoolshGame22 on
Apr 14, 2008 11:28 PM PDT
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same here, i didn't have a witty response
A's v Giants "is kind of like the difference between going to see the Ramones and going to see the Bee Gees. A's fans will go see the Ramones." -BB 07/27/05
by xbhaskarx on
Apr 15, 2008 9:32 AM PDT
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My copy of Strangeways here we come
is too scratched up to listen to anymore so I blocked it out of my mind.
Next thing you know,You’ll be wishing Angel’s fans an unhappy birthday (‘cause their evil and they lie).
"Camelot sure fell apart, didn't it?"-Steve McCatty
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Apr 15, 2008 8:57 AM PDT
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I'll bet the Rev got it
And what did we do once we discovered a rift in the fourth dimension? We launched a monkey into it. @('.')@
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Still having comments with the "new comment" flag
When you’re tabbing through new comments with the Z function, and the flag pops up with a new comment, the first time you hit Z removes the flag, but also unmarks that particular comment as new without moving to it on the screen.
Then Z allows you to keep tabbing through new comments, but you miss the one that was posted last (the one you were notified of by the flag).
For some reason I can’t explain this very cleary. But this is especially frustrating in game threads.
Can we keep small-sample-size Bobby Crosby? Please? -Joey C.
by pam5981 on
Apr 14, 2008 11:33 PM PDT
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OKOK......
so Blez agrees with me, and Smith should be called young Moyer, or Baby Moyer, or Little Moyezy, or jaimelito, or …....
by 0akFoSho on
Apr 14, 2008 11:38 PM PDT
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Also.......
The Sox announcers tortured us that live outside of Oakland tonight. So Lord, please allow the Bay Area feed tomorrow!
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Apr 14, 2008 11:40 PM PDT
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"White Sox in a Coma"?
Couldn’t even give the A’s the headline, could you Blez?
Pessimist. :)
I'm here to talk about the past.
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Apr 15, 2008 1:09 AM PDT
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I know, I know it's serious.
Putting the "N" in "NRAF" from Leipzig, Germany!
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Apr 15, 2008 5:32 AM PDT
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Those Sox bloggers deserve to be in one...
They raved (ranted) about Greg Smith’s “balk disguised as a pick-off move” to get runners out.
The general complaints were only something a Chi-town sports fan could love. They’re the Kobe Bryant of baseball, always with a complaining grimace about them.
At least he Cub’s fans have a decent beef having not won a series in 100 years; however the Sox have one with an overrated team this decade!
Spend you time on the Bear’s for complaining b/c these sox are done for ‘08.
No Harden and No Chavez make the A's go, something something...
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Apr 15, 2008 8:49 AM PDT
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Hawk Harrelson is the king of all idiots?
Blez, I must say I would vote for Hudler as king of all Idiots, but I do agree with you on Hawk being such a douche and having a moronic Call Get Up Get Up, I thought Swish tripped when he was running. I hate when listening to the other teams announcer when they are SO bias and team centric. It can be painful to listen to at times.
"I hurt people I'm a dick" Garry TA
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Ain't life grand!
Is the Hawk the worst announcer? Or is it Hudler?
What’s so great about baseball is you don’t have to choose! Once again, over the course of the season, we’ll get to listen to both!
Personally, though, I give the edge to Hudler, though that might have to do with the fact that he’s announcing rooting for the LAAAAs and that he shares the booth with the also very bad Steve Physioc.
Putting the "N" in "NRAF" from Leipzig, Germany!
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The A's announcers are great - always have been...
I had the misfortune of catching a White Sox broadcast some years back and heard Hawk Harrelson and was amazed at how much of a homer a broadcaster could be. The use of “us” and “we” is quite silly – again, as was mentioned earlier, because he’s not on the field. The funniest thing was when the Sox closer (Thigpen, Foulke, Koch, Jenks) would come in and throw a fastball to a batter with two strikes, he’d exclaim, “GAS!” This was usually done to try and punctuate a strikeout. Made me laugh the one time he did it and an A’s batter fouled it off – then followed it up by hitting the next GAS! offering about 375 feet. >:)
Just goes to show how skilled – but honest and unbiased – our announceers are and always have been. King, Simmons, Korach, Fosse (sorry to Vince, but I never cared for him one iota – and he basically was the new man in the booth after Bill’s passing. Unfair, I know, but I was a HUGE fan of Bill’s and Vince was not that great regardless.)
Of course, maybe it’s just a Chicago thing. Harry Carey was the largest homer in the history of baseball announcing. :)
Love the way the team has exploded out of the gate. These guys are working hard to disprove the pundits. It’s early, but we are definitely going to surprise some people.
Let’s go A’s!
"Well, I've wrestled with reality for 35 years, doctor, and I'm happy to state that I've finally won out over it." -- Elwood P. Dowd (Jimmy Stewart), "Harvey"
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Horrible Announcers
The WhiteSox announcers are indeed a pair of the worst in baseball- they don’t bother to read the lineup until the game starts, so they can’t learn how to pronounce the names, they seem to be totally unaware of any aspect of the other team and they drone on like mindless idiots at times. It just makes me realize how good Ray Fosse really is…..
The greenmachine
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I agree
The A’s announcing crew is one of the best. They are professional, respectful, yet they still have a passion for the A’s. Just a great crew.
Prince: This bores me. Is anyone up for a game of basketball?
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Really?
I agree that Hawk & DJ are very, very bad. Same with Phyz & Hud. But Fosse & Kuiper are pretty damn boring, and very, very predictable. Personally, I think the A’s Announcers are pretty darn average. I could do w/o Kuiper. Fosse stays because of tenure.
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Apr 15, 2008 8:36 AM PDT
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I think when A's fans compliment the A's announcers we mean Korach mostly,
Fosse a little for amusement’s sake and Kuiper and Cotroneo not so much.
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That's usually who I'm referring to
Kuiper is all right, and my guess is that he’s not downright painful for fans of other teams. But Korach is just brilliant to listen to.
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Kuiper is competent but annoying to listen to
because he starts every sentence with the word “So.”
He’s like the Emperor Hirohito of broadcasters. (Well, except that no wars have been waged in his name.)
Your 2008 Athletics: It's Nothing Personal.
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at the game last night
It was a good one. And I met Zonis.
My one comment is that Mike Sweeney looks sooo painful when he runs. If he didn’t have long legs, it would be Molina-esque. However, he did manage to get home from second for both of our runs, so I guess I can’t complain.
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Wait, Zonis is actually real?
I owe Cindi 10 bucks.
I like Cindi. A. She never pretends to know more than she does. B. She has unbridled enthusiasm for her "Hotties," and isn't afraid to show it. -IM4Oakgal
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compared to our last 2 DH's he is Carl Lewis.
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I'll give you Frank Thomas
but I think a footrace between Sweeney and Piazza could go either way.
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Piazza by himself could go either way
And what did we do once we discovered a rift in the fourth dimension? We launched a monkey into it. @('.')@
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