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Dan O’Dowd ≥ Tom Hicks

The salary contract demands of young players have reached the national media’s attention, which will ultimately exacerbate the situation for teams.  Quite honestly, I hold O’Dowd to blame to a large extent.  The precedent that he set with Troy Tulowitzki was reckless and will likely do more damage to the sport than Alex Rodriguez’ contract.  I had been talking about it with my friends lately and it really has me cringing at the ramifications.

 

I mean, look, the ‘superstars’ will always get their money when they are a free agent.  But O’Dowd has effectively minimized the ‘control’ a team has over their players, which has a far more reaching impact than A-Rod’s ridiculous contract.  When players like Prince Fielder, Cole Hamels, Nick Markakis, and Jonathan Papelbon publicly complain about their salaries prior to their arbitration years, then that is outright crippling to small and mid-market teams.  

 

Where this affects the A’s should be obvious; they have just traded for a bucket load of prospects and being that they are high-end ones at that, then means that they will also feel a sense of undue entitlement.

 

If this epidemic does not get addressed very soon, then I really believe that the contract infrastructure will be irreparable truly leading to only large-market teams being in control of all players like they are now with more expensive players.  My opinion is, is that now is the time to institute a salary cap like there are in the other major sports and I know that it makes baseball different and I like that about it, but I do not see any other alternative.

 

Please enlighten me or… at least mock me…

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O'Dowd seems to be following the Indians model from the 90's (or the Beane model of the 00's, if you prefer) of locking up his young players to provide cost certainty. Generally speaking, it's a decent compromise, the players give up some money in their arbitration years as 'insurance' against injury or a drop in performance. I think where the griping is originating is from players that want to be paid in accordance with their production rather than their service time. They want the 6 year contract that free agent would get based on their numbers, not that a second year player would get, and there is absolutely no incentive for a team to give up their only leverage in negotiations.

O'Dowd is pushing the envelope a little bit by locking up his players younger, but I don't see the same long-term downside that you do, provided the service time and arbitration rules stay the same. If you look at Tulowitzki's contract (please correct me if I'm wrong folks), the Rockies essentially bought out two years of free agency (they also have a club option for a seventh year) at what could be bargain rates come 2013 and 2014.

by Doug on Mar 5, 2008 8:21 AM PST reply actions  

bargain

If Tulowitzki keeps playing the way he played last year, then the contract will be a bargain not just for 2013 and 2014, but for 2011 and 2012 too (when he would be eligible for arbitration).

Sure this gives guys like Fielder and Papelbon a chance to complain about being underpaid right now, but if you offered this same contract to Fielder right now, he would be an idiot to take it. Seven years from now, Fielder will probably have two arbitration seasons at $5-10M each and two free agent seasons at $10-20M. I guess that Tulowitzki could out-earn him over the next seven years, but, barring some injury or something, I doubt that will happen.

by colin on Mar 5, 2008 12:17 PM PST up reply actions  

You are wrong

2007 was Tulo's 1st full season in the bigs, his 6th year comes in 2012. That means the Rockies bought out 1 year of FA and have an option on his 2nd year.

Tulo only played a partial season in 2006. A player must accumulate 6 FULL seasons before he can taste FA.

The monster at the end of this blog.

by grover on Mar 5, 2008 10:10 PM PST up reply actions  

The epidemic of whining

on the part of players will have no impact on the actual salaries involved. It may cause more players to leave their teams as free agents, but small-market clubs already couldn't expect to hold players after their sixth year.

I'm not normally one to side with ownership, but, jesus. It's a collective bargaining agreement. You're better represented than like 95% of American workers. Shut up and play.

Your 2008 Athletics: It's Nothing Personal.

by PaulThomas on Mar 5, 2008 12:18 PM PST reply actions  

I don't entirely disagree ...

... but if my speculative scenario below is realistic, and the union has glimmers of it coming to pass, the players might be justified in being worried about getting short-changed relative to salary growth the last 10-15 years.

I wasn't thinking about anything. I'll have to try to do that more often. @('.')@

by monkeyball on Mar 5, 2008 5:43 PM PST up reply actions  

Would you

still blame O'Down, if the contact is a bargain?

Let's see, Tulo will be paid $31M / 6, WITH a CLUB OPTION in 2014, his age 29 season.

Using Baseball Prospectus stats for offense, he was 10 runs above average last year, without any extra credit for playing SS.

Everyone, from the various play by play metrics to fans had him as ridiculously good defensively last year, around 30 runs above average.

Project his offense conservatively at average, plus 5 runs extra credit for playing SS. Project his D fairly conservatively at 15 runs above average, which is reasonable, the best defensive SS are around 20 above average.

So, in total, conservatively, he is about 20 runs above average.

A 20 runs above average player, would get a contract as a free agent, of $65.2M over 4 years, according to Tom Tango, an average of $16.3M per year.

I am using 4 years because he has 1 year of service time. Let's assume that he is not a super 2 type player, so 2 more years of free production for the Rockies.

From COTs, his salary per year:08:$0.75M, 09:$0.75M, 10:$3.5M, 11:$5.5M, 12:$8.5M, 13:$10M,

Since he are assuming that he will not be paid in 2008 and 2009, add the 2008 and 2009 salariees to 2010, 10: $5M, 11:$5.5M, 12:$8.5M, 13:$10M,

Assume that a player gets 40% of FA value in his first arby year, 60% in his 2nd arby year, 80% last year.

So, the Rockies are valuing him at $12.5M in 2010, $9.16M in 2011, $10.65M in 2012, $10M in 2013, total of $42.31M.

Using the fairly conservative projection of his offensive value above, he would be worth $65.2M.

AND the Rockiers have a club option on him for 2014.

ZIPS: Milledge: 466 HR, 485 2B, 2282 hits, 278-379-524

by rfloh on Mar 5, 2008 12:40 PM PST reply actions  

what's more ...

... perhaps O'Dowd's move signals a move toward attempting to pay projectable well-above-VORP players for their performance while they're performing, rather than paying for past performance (which has been the norm since the advent of the current general CBA framework).

If GMs start up-adjusting the early-FA/arb-buyout years while ceasing to overpay for the past perfs of "name" vets (which we may already be seeing with the lack of offers for Piazza/Bonds/Stewart/ et al), it would be a much more sensible/rational expenditure plan.

(I also might be tempted to speculate that such an approach would make sense in a post-PED landscape, where post-arb FAs may age more "normally," thereby giving even less of an ROI.)

I wasn't thinking about anything. I'll have to try to do that more often. @('.')@

by monkeyball on Mar 5, 2008 5:41 PM PST up reply actions  

Blame, then Impact, then Length

First of all, the impact of signing Tulo through his arby days is not limited to Tulo. I mention Tulo primarily because of his 6-year contract after 1-year of service time. Your argument is based upon that Tulo's defense is worth all of that money. I agree and I also agree that Tulo did give the Rox an early 'hometown discount;' however, Tulo is one player and that is the problem. Therefore, I still blame O'Dowd even though this contract is a bargain. A correlation could be made with Tulo's contract and Albert Pujol's contract in terms of length and service time accrued; however the difference that I delineate is, is that hitting stats are what gets big contracts, rightly or wrongly, and how Pujols hit in his first two years in the league is unprecedented in the FA era and therefore not comparable to Tulo. Maybe the market has changed that much since then to where contracts are significantly tied to defense, but I don't see how unless a player has a good agent because I am unaware of any defensive measuring tool that you have mentioned is used for deciding arby hearings or deciding what tier a player is in FA. Again, defense is key to winning and O'Dowd gets credit for that, but the league parameters are not in place to have him valued as such. Maybe O'Dowd is being progressive for giving a contract based upon defense, but I don't see how since contracts are still given to porous defenders all of the time. I think his contract is 'ahead of its time' and therefore unnecessary. If we are there, then I am very happy, but I just don't think that we are.

The reason why the impact of Tulo's contract is wide-ranging is because not only will it have an effect on Tulo's teammates, but also the rest of baseball. It is not rocket science. It is not a coincidence that Hamels, Papelbon, Fielder, and Markakis started complaining about their contracts. Personally, I consider Hamels to be one of the 10 best SP in baseball. I consider Papelbon to possibly be the best closer in baseball and he is one of the top 3. I think Fielder is one of the 5 best hitting 1B in baseball. I think Markakis is really good, but I have to believe that he is completely full of himself now that the O's have traded their two biggest named players and is trying to exploit the situation.

Essentially what I am saying is, is that all of these players are worth more money than they are getting paid. That doesn't mean that I think that they should be getting paid more money. I think that all players should have to earn their money by basically becoming arby-eligible. Getting back to the team concept, when a player like Tulo signs his deal, he is thinking about the team, but not all of his teammates invariably are and how many times do we hear players talking about long-term deals? Which is my next point:

The argument you are using with Tom Tango's contract generator is similar to what A-Rod was actually worth when he signed his contract except that defense, again, is not typically included. However, that is a projected value. Most attempt to predict the future, but it is never guaranteed... unlike a MLB contract. Simply, the precedent of signing a 6-year contract regardless of its cost is a pretty big risk in my opinion between injury or whatever. Again, I think this is one of those things where there is a huge impact in the team concept. If I am Garrett Atkins, then what do I think? Yes, there is pressure to sign a long-term deal, but there is also pressure from the union to get paid according to his assigned tier and position. A player then is put in a difficult situation, whether us fans like to admit it or not, and then they have to deal with those expectations and invariably let one of the two parties down.

I dunno... I am just against contracts that long with the exception of a very, very small group of players and I don't know if Tulo fits that category yet. And I am against contracts being proposed when they just don't have to be proposed like that.

One last thing, my biggest concern is, is that more and more teams are basically going to be trading Dan Harens and Nick Swishers for prospects because their contracts are going to be inflated that much more and I personally believe that this will further widen the gap between the big market teams and everyone below them.

I confess that there are several parts of this Constitution which I do not at present approve, but I am not sure I shall never approve them. For having lived long, I have experienced many instances of being obliged by better information, or fuller consideration, to change opinions even on important subjects, which I once thought right, but found to be otherwise.
— Benjamin Franklin

by bjk15 on Mar 5, 2008 5:54 PM PST up reply actions  

Much ado about nothin'

Win lose or draw, the Rockies have decided that Tulowitzki is the real deal and worth a 6 year/$31 million contract. Dowd doesn't think Tulo is going to go Bobby Crosby on him and to be perfectly honest, I hope he's right.

No one deserves that cruel torture.

You argue against the length of the deal. Why? Unless Tulo is a total bust (or has a Milton Bradley personality) the Rockies already control him for the next 5 years. All this deal does is tack an extra guaranteed year to the end. Unless something goes horribly wrong with Tulo this is a team friendly deal for the Rockies and you're worried that players like Fielder and Papelbon are going to push for similiar money? Their respective teams should be praying night and day that such an opportunity presents itself. MLB is going to be flush with cash for the next half-decade, deals like the one the Rockies made with Tulo will only make the franchises more profitable. If Tulo plays like the Rockies think he's going to play they will be saving money, and if they can get the rest of their young talent to sign away their souls at such reasonable rates the Rockies will be saving even more money.

One last thing, my biggest concern is, is that more and more teams are basically going to be trading Dan Harens and Nick Swishers for prospects because their contracts are going to be inflated that much more and I personally believe that this will further widen the gap between the big market teams and everyone below them.

Poppycock.

Do you realize that in 2007 the Arizona Diamondbacks spent $27 million LESS on player payroll then the A's did? In 2008 they project to have a payroll under $65 million. Where is the big market team that swooped in and snagged Haren from the A's? The next Dan Haren or Nick Swisher isn't going to go to a big market team, they'll go to a team with a good farm system! As I argued a few weeks ago, the investment to develope a top notch farm system is significantly less then the cost of signing a good free agent. If the A's start devoting the necessary resources to the farm system then in a couple years it could be Oakland trading for the next Swisher or Haren.

The monster at the end of this blog.

by grover on Mar 5, 2008 10:47 PM PST up reply actions  

You argue against the length of the deal. Why?

I argue against it because I don't like basing anything off of one-year because of scenarios just like Bobby Crosby. Yes, I believe them to be different types of players, but so what? If a player has earned that contract, then they have earned that contract. I know I ramble, but my point is, is that this is a precedent that I think will have a significant impact on young player's contracts. And it is a precedent.

I'm sorry, but I don't buy that any agent is not going to go to mgmt for his client and say, look at one years worth of data and give my client a big contract. Furthermore, if I am Tulo or Hamels and I am at the end of my 6-year deal and ~28 or so and in my prime, then I am going to be looking for a 6-year deal again (if I were still as good as projected). All I am saying is, is why not sign a player after 2 years at least? That way, there is another 'bargain' year tacked on at the end of it because it isn't like the money up front is a big deal. I personally think having a stud player like Tulo or Hamels for another year would be worth it.

Where is the big market team that swooped in and snagged Haren from the A's? The next Dan Haren or Nick Swisher isn't going to go to a big market team, they'll go to a team with a good farm system!

Yeah, no big market team got Haren, but a big market team did get Swisher. Furthermore, I would argue that big market teams are going to have the better farm systems going forward because they can and are willing to draft and sign players beyond their slotted money. I think that will get worse as well. And let's be honest; building a good farm system is not that easy, if it were, then every team would be doing it and besides then what implications does that have for GMs who don't do that (yes, I do remember that front page post)? I really think that you are glossing over the market dynamics of the draft and I think this is why BB is being forced to go real heavy again in international scouting. I did read your post on such things and it was really good and I think that that is the better way to go; however, I just don't think that life is that easy.

So, 1) I think this is a bad precedent
2) I don't see why any team should buy out a player's arby years after 1-year of service time because I would want to see at least 2 years before I would do that.
3) The draft dynamics have changed to basically benefit big market teams and therefore the ability to build good farm systems has been made affected adversely.

I confess that there are several parts of this Constitution which I do not at present approve, but I am not sure I shall never approve them. For having lived long, I have experienced many instances of being obliged by better information, or fuller consideration, to change opinions even on important subjects, which I once thought right, but found to be otherwise.
— Benjamin Franklin

by bjk15 on Mar 6, 2008 4:37 AM PST up reply actions  

You're conflating a wide variety of issues here

The draft is a problem. Absolutely. Although it would be less of a problem if MLB abandoned the retarded slotting system, which is clearly and explicitly designed to hose amateur players, and started actually paying them what they're worth.

This has absolutely nothing to do with pre-arb contracts, which are a good idea and a win-win for the players and the teams. The players get insurance against the risk of a Rich Harden-like injury implosion. The teams get cost certainty and the likelihood of a bargain in the long run.

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by PaulThomas on Mar 6, 2008 9:12 AM PST up reply actions  

Tulo's contract was an aggressive move, no doubt

But Dowd believes... make that BELIEVES in Tulo. And he better be right or that contract will be an anchor that slows the Rockies down for a long time. Would it be more prudent to wait until after Tulo's 2nd year to make such an offer? Absolutely, more data is always a plus but that does not mean that Dowd has made a mistake with this deal. At some point a team has to look at a young big leaguer and make their decision, do they believe in him enough to guarantee millions of dollars to him?

Now, will Dowd's early move on Tulo have a signifigant impact on the way teams handle deals with their young big league talent? Probably not. Teams have the absolute final say over a player's salary over the first 3 years (unless a Super-2 is involved but let's not digress) and everyone knows that. Sure, you'll have agents approach the teams and try to get a similiar deal but there's very little pressure on the team to make it happen. "Not right now, let's give him another year before we start talking about a long term deal." What's the agent going to do, try and get his client traded? Not even Boras tries that. And do you really think that there's going to be a problem if a year later the team goes to the agent and says they're interested in doing a long term deal? Hell no! It may cost the team a few million more then if they had signed a deal earlier but in the long run they're still going to be saving money vs. having the player go through arbitration.

As for the length of the deal, again you forget that the Rockies already controlled Tulo for the next 5 years regardless, therefore tacking on an extra year plus an option isn't really that extreme. When FA comes Hamels or Tulo might look for a 6 year deal but only the very elite players get deals that long. Soriano got 8 years while Lee and Santana got 6 years, most teams stick to a 5 year max guarantee when dealing with free agents. I really don't see teams changing that policy because 1 team gave a player they already controlled for the next 5 years a 6 year guaranteed deal.

The White Sox didn't get Swisher because they're a big market team, they got him because Kenny Williams called up Beane and said "Have your way with me, just let me have Swisher!" Have you seen Animal House? Kenny Williams was Kevin Bacon in the initiation scene.

As for you whole farm system bit... $12 million. That how much the A's would have to spend yearly to be the big dog in acquiring amateur talent. They would have to be willing to risk the wrath of Commandant Selig and sign over-slot players. There is an inefficency in the draft that allows some of the most talented players to fall well below where they should be drafted and the A's are not taking advantage. The team that (practically) wrote the book on exploiting inefficiencies has one staring them in the face and they aren't taking advantage! They'd also have to invest time and money on foreign shores. But at the end of the day, $12 million puts them in a prime position.

And I'm not understating the difficulties of building up a farm system, but the fact is it's a Hell of a lot easier to build when you devote the resources to the project. The A's have been remiss in this area. They've gone several years without signing a bonus baby (over-slot type or draft & follow) and it's been a few years since they signed any notable Latin American talent. You can't build if you don't buy the materials.

Finally, when it comes to baseball, Life is as easy as you make it.

The monster at the end of this blog.

by grover on Mar 6, 2008 10:24 AM PST up reply actions  

Well, here's the thing

every org wants to wait and not sign their pre-arby players to long term deals. They want more time to assess the player.

OTOH, the longer an org waits, the close a player gets to FA, the better he plays, the less likely he is going to sign a long term deal.

David Wright signed a $55M / 6 deal after the 2006 season, with only 2 years of service time, giving the Mets 2 more years of control AND a club option tacked on. Some considered the deal excessive. After 2007, after he improve his D, after he walked more, stole more bases, ran the bases better, and became an even better player than he was, do you believe he would have signed that deal? Or would Mets fans be lambasting Omar Minaya for playing hardball?

ZIPS: Milledge: 466 HR, 485 2B, 2282 hits, 278-379-524

by rfloh on Mar 6, 2008 10:38 AM PST up reply actions  

Even with Crosby,

the contract is not a disaster, or close to that. He's obviously has not lived up to the hype, but $9M over the next 2 years is not going to prevent the A's from replacing him.

ZIPS: Milledge: 466 HR, 485 2B, 2282 hits, 278-379-524

by rfloh on Mar 6, 2008 10:45 AM PST up reply actions  

True

But $9 million over 2 years will prevent the A's from getting rid of him.

Thus my angst continues!

The monster at the end of this blog.

by grover on Mar 6, 2008 10:50 AM PST up reply actions  

Firstly, Tulo's value

is not entirely based on his D.

A SS who can hit like a league average batter is valuable. Tulo is essentially Jose Reyes, with better D, but slightly less valuable offense.

There is nothing to prevent an agent from pointing to the various defensive metrics that fellate Tulo, in an arby hearing.

Secondly, I'm not sure why you are bringing Albert up. He was signed on February of 2004. That is about FOUR YEARS AGO. Why not compare Torii Hunter's contract to contracts that were signed 4 years ago? Ichiro's to contracts that were signed 4 years ago? And so on.

To Hamels et al.

A question for you: Do you consider Swish's contract a bargain? A HUGE ASS bargain? Do you consider Jose Reyes' contract a bargain? Curtis Granderson's? David Wright's? Grady Sizemore's?

It is in the interest of small market teams, and also big market teams, to sign their good pre arby players to as long a contract as possible. Pre arby contracts are almost always HUGE ASS BARGAINS.

At their stage in their careers, those players, even those on HOF paths, are still relatively poor. Thus, they are willing to take less money, in many cases, MUCH LESS money, in return for having the money now. Once these players get a couple million in the bank via arby hearings, they are much less willing to sign long below market contracts.

For an example, look at Jeter. The Yankees idiotically chose NOT to sign him long term when he first came up, choosing to make him earn his money by basically becoming arby-eligible. They went to arby, they lost: he got $5M. They then signed him to a 1 year deal l the following year, year 4, but NOT at a bargain: $10M. Year 5, they gave him his current big deal. Playing hardball with Jeter was dumb at the time. In retrospect. it was VERY DUMB.

"I think Markakis is really good, but I have to believe that he is completely full of himself now that the O's have traded their two biggest named players and is trying to exploit the situation."

The Orioles should be thanking Markakis for trying to "exploit" the situation. He could just go the arby route when he is eligible, and then leave that pathetic franchise when he is an FA. If they instead allow Markakis to "exploit" them, they will likely get at least on extra year of him, at less, probably much less, than what a comparable FA would cost them.

"Getting back to the team concept, when a player like Tulo signs his deal, he is thinking about the team, but not all of his teammates invariably are and how many times do we hear players talking about long-term deals?"

Good players, and great players, get long term deals. Bad players, or mediocre players, DO NOT deserve long term deals. Simple.

"However, that is a projected value. Most attempt to predict the future, but it is never guaranteed... unlike a MLB contract. Simply, the precedent of signing a 6-year contract regardless of its cost is a pretty big risk in my opinion between injury or whatever"

Yes, when projecting players, it is all projected value. That is true for all players. Yes, players could get injured. They could also just plain suck. This applies to all players. What is your solution? No long term deals? This will result in you not being able to sign star calibre players. So, you sign mediocrities like Loaiza, Mark Redman, or a past his prime Piazza instead. Which is the bigger risk, that a good or great player, Tulo or Arod, gets injured, and you cannot collect the insurance on the contract, or that an average / mediocre player like Redman just declines into being essentially worthless?

"If I am Garrett Atkins, then what do I think? Yes, there is pressure to sign a long-term deal, but there is also pressure from the union to get paid according to his assigned tier and position. A player then is put in a difficult situation, whether us fans like to admit it or not, and then they have to deal with those expectations and invariably let one of the two parties down."

Start playing SS. Play like Tulo.

"One last thing, my biggest concern is, is that more and more teams are basically going to be trading Dan Harens and Nick Swishers for prospects because their contracts are going to be inflated that much more and I personally believe that this will further widen the gap between the big market teams and everyone below them."

Err, what is your point? One reason the A's could trade Swisher for good prospects was because his contract was a HUGE ASS BARGAIN.

Also, where are these teams trading the likes of Swisher because their contracts are inflated? None.

It is really difficult for an arby buyout contract to turn out to be bad. The player basically has to become chronically injured and / or suck very badly. Even in those cases, the total amount of the contract is still fairly small, $30M-$35M spread out over 5-6 years is not a big millstone, not even for small market teams.

Small market teams, AND big market teams, should be signing up as many of their good prearby players as possible, which some appear to be doing.

ZIPS: Milledge: 466 HR, 485 2B, 2282 hits, 278-379-524

by rfloh on Mar 5, 2008 11:17 PM PST up reply actions  

Jeter was year 5 and year 6. Typo.

ZIPS: Milledge: 466 HR, 485 2B, 2282 hits, 278-379-524

by rfloh on Mar 6, 2008 10:40 AM PST up reply actions  

Also, ARod was not

the problem with the Rangers.

The problem was Park Chan Ho.

ARod leaving the Rangers has not resulted in them improving. After dumping ARod, they signed Mike Young to a big contract.

ZIPS: Milledge: 466 HR, 485 2B, 2282 hits, 278-379-524

by rfloh on Mar 5, 2008 11:29 PM PST up reply actions  

A-rod/Chan-ho

I'll get to your other post later. Yes, stupid contracts like Chan-ho hurt the Rangers more, but who doesn't think that the A-rod contract was unnecessary by nearly all accounts? 10 year 250? Shoot, they could have lopped off at least 25, if not 50. 25 mil... c'mon let's be real. And 10 years??? I would argue that he could have gotten Yes, he has been that durable, but it is still a horrible precedent that he set for his union.

I confess that there are several parts of this Constitution which I do not at present approve, but I am not sure I shall never approve them. For having lived long, I have experienced many instances of being obliged by better information, or fuller consideration, to change opinions even on important subjects, which I once thought right, but found to be otherwise.
— Benjamin Franklin

by bjk15 on Mar 6, 2008 4:42 AM PST up reply actions  

We have no idea what he was being

offered by other teams. For all we know, $250M was necessary to get him to sign with the Rangers.

As for the years, why do they matter? If Arod can provide $250M of value over the duration of that contract, that is all that matters. It should not matter if the $250M value is evenly spread out over all 10 years, or if the value comes in the first 6-7 years.

"Yes, he has been that durable, but it is still a horrible precedent that he set for his union."

Park Chan Ho was a worse precedent. Park Chan Ho was an OK player signed to a star contract. There are not many players like Arod, who can point to Arod and say, "I should get as much as ARod". There are many players like Chan Ho, who can point to Chan Ho, and say "I want what Chan Ho got".

ZIPS: Milledge: 466 HR, 485 2B, 2282 hits, 278-379-524

by rfloh on Mar 6, 2008 10:29 AM PST up reply actions  

Actually, that bit about A-Rod isn't true

The Rangers (Ton Hicks) had the high offer, but Boras sat on A-Rod's answer to see if anyone else was going to make a higher bid. (I don't think A-Rod really wanted to play in Texas but that's a guess on my part.) Hicks got nervous and upped his bid to make sure A-Rod became a Ranger.

So Texas bidded against itself, which isn't really smart but isn't why the Rangers struggled. The Rangers needed pitching and in 2002 they went out and signed Dave Burba, Chan Ho Park, Todd Van Poppel, Ismael Valdez, Hideki Irabu and Jay Powell.

First consider how many holes you have to have to go out and sign that many pitchers in 1 year AND THEN consider who they were bringing in!

The monster at the end of this blog.

by grover on Mar 6, 2008 10:49 AM PST up reply actions  

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