Street And Brown Ruin Multiple Chances for A's To Win
Well, I would rather start out this post with the actual game info, but I wanted to get this in writing first. It’s bad enough that the monopoly called DirectTV tried to steal exclusive rights to baseball last year, forcing the league to negotiate well into the first week of the season, leaving all of us cable subscribers hanging in baseball-limbo hell, wondering if we would ever see another televised out-of-market A’s game, but then to follow that up this year by having the satellite go down on OPENING DAY in the middle of the night, cutting people off of the ESPN2 feed and the game is INEXCUSABLE. I’m never leaving cable, not as long as I am making the TV decisions in my household, and if anyone from DirectTV ever reads this, you ought to know why. How dare you not take every necessary step to ensure that Red Sox and A’s fans get to see their team play. If we all got ourselves up at 3am, your feed should have been working, and it’s crap that it wasn’t. On their website, it boldly proclaims, “Baseball fans need DirectTV”. I beg to differ. I hope they feel this screw-up in a major way.
And now to the game. If you actually did it, and woke up at 3AM, you saw a great game right up until the ninth inning. In retrospect, we should have all gone back to bed about 5:55, which, coincidentally, is the time when the game should have been over.
I was surprised at how easy it was to get up this morning. It seemed like there was a lot of energy surrounding this game, both from stateside as well as the stadium in Japan. Although there were certainly the expected Red Sox fans in attendance, I was pleasantly surprised to hear more than a little cheering for the green and gold. And judging from the over 2000 comments in the multiple game threads, it seemed like a good percentage of AN turned out for the online party. Despite the ultimate result, I loved it.
A’s fans had plenty to cheer about early. After Joe Blanton set down the side in the first inning, Mark Ellis greeted Dice K by taking a pitch out of the park, giving the A’s a 1-0 lead. Later in the inning, the A’s took advantage of Matsuzaka’s early wildness by loading the bases with one out for Bobby Crosby. Quoting our announcers, "It was not pretty, but it was contact", as Crosby sent somewhat of a swinging bunt back to the pitcher to score the second run.
Despite Dice K’s wildness continuing another inning, the A’s in early 2008 yet again failed to do what they should have done; put a struggling pitcher away when they had the chance. Matsuzaka only got stronger as the game went along, and by the time he reached his pitch count, despite five walks, he had pitched five innings, allowing two hits, and only two runs, and ended up striking out six. The A’s simply couldn’t expect to hold Boston to a shutout, although they did for five innings, but in the top of the sixth, Blanton’s terrific start finally gave out.
After throwing five sparkling innings, allowing four hits and getting two K’s, Blanton struggled to open the sixth. Buck misplayed Pedroia’s deep drive to the wall, sending him to second with no one out to open the inning. Youkilis followed with a walk, bringing up the dangerous David Ortiz. Blanton dodged one more bullet when Ortiz flied out to Hannahan, who made a nice catch, before Manny Ramirez and his pajamas belted a hard double down the third base line to tie the game. Although Blanton struck out Lowell, Brandon Moss (a late replacement for JD Drew - remember his name; it will come up later) singled to drive Blanton out of the game.
Blanton finished with 5.2 innings, 7 hits, 3 ER, 1 BB, 1 SO, an okay line, but he pitched better than the box score will show. Embree came in to get the A’s out of the sixth without further incident, and stayed in to pitch a pretty terrific seventh.
Now according to the 2007 Oakland A’s script--the part where you expect the A’s offense to give up for the night--Blanton should have been kept on the hook for the loss, but this new group of A’s produced a very different result. After Crosby got a much-needed ‘turf single’ to open the bottom of the sixth, the new Chavez blasted a no-doubter homerun to put the A’s back on top. Hannahan didn’t miss that pitch.
Fast forward to the top of the eighth. Due up: Youkilis, Ortiz, Ramirez. Out of the bullpen: Keith Foulke. Now, I must admit, I’ve been hard on him, I don’t think he had much of a Spring Training, and I wasn’t really sold on the idea of him as our setup man, but he deserved the standing ovation I gave him after his strikeout of Manny; he pitched a brilliant inning.
So the A’s headed to the ninth clinging to a one run lead. Emil Brown made a bid for an extra base hit to open the inning, but Jacoby Ellsbury made a phenomenal play, falling back against the wall to record the first out. The A’s failed to score in the inning, and it would cost them, as Street was thrown out there for his first save opportunity, with the A’s still holding their slim lead. He got the first out, an easy fly to center, but then up came Brandon Moss again. I’ll spare you the suspense: He homered to tie the game, and hand Street his first blown save in his first opportunity.
I’ve said it before, I’ll say it again, but it bears repeating. When the A’s offense has a pitcher on the ropes, they MUST capitalize on all the walks they draw. It will come back to haunt them every time, and it was like waiting for the other shoe to drop all game. You just don’t hold Boston to under four runs, no matter how good your pitching is.
So a game that was executed perfectly by the Oakland A’s, perfectly designed to end before six am to give us an extra hour of sleep, a save that was gift-wrapped by the setup men, doing all the hard work long before Street entered the game, disappeared in a single batter. You don’t want to face the Red Sox in extra innings, and you don’t want to give a clutch Ortiz and a red-hot Manny an extra at-bat.
After Hannahan couldn’t quite make a Chavy-like play to open the 10th, and the runner was sacrificed to second, the A’s interestingly chose to have Street walk Ortiz to face Manny instead of a) walking both of them, having two bases open and all, or b) facing Ortiz, who was actually struggling at the plate. That decision worked about as well as it sounds; that is, to the tune of another two-run double.
Enter DiNardo to intentionally walk Lowell, since Street not only pitched terribly, but he barely managed to intentionally walk Ortiz successfully, and Geren didn’t trust him to walk another.
The A's offense made a valient effort at a comeback against Papelbon in the ninth, after Barton walked and scored on Emil Brown's double, but then in what was truly one of the most idiotic baserunning mistakes I have EVER seen, Brown--THE TYING RUN--got caught in a rundown between second and third. Of course Crosby and Hannahan both singled right after, which would have EASILY scored the tying run, and maybe even won the game for the A's. I can deal with physical limitations, but have ZERO patience for Little League stupid, bonehead mental errors, and I can't think of a single excuse for Brown. That's the kind of play that WILL get you thrown off a team, and Brown's lucky that I wasn't his manager today.
Bottom line: Opening day for Huston Street finds him with a blown save and a loss. He absolutely deserved the loss, with supporting credits given to the A’s offense for letting Dice K off the hook early, and Emil Brown for one of the dumbest major league plays I have EVER seen. As in, send him away, bad. A disappointing loss to be sure, especially considering the effort it took for all of us to watch the game.
Argh.
But in baseball, there’s always tomorrow, so we do it all over again tomorrow night, same time, same place. AN will be here for you through it all. And, again, if you experienced satellite issues, I urge you to make a call to DirectTV sometime today. Hopefully tomorrow’s game will be watchable for everyone. And hopefully, it produces the opposite result for the A’s.
Final Score: Boston 6, A’s 5 in 10 innings
Winning Pitcher: Hideki Okajima
Losing Pitcher: Huston Street
Due to the length of this post, I encourage you to hop over to MLB.com to check out the A’s 40 man roster.
See you tomorrow!
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;-(
"If you could fart into a kind of microprocessing funnel, and the funnel poured the fart into a computer, which converted the fart into words, this is what it would look like." - Ken Tremendous, FJM
by HigherPie on Mar 25, 2008 7:01 AM PDT reply actions 0 recs
That was one of the 5 most painful baseball experiences I've ever had.
Formerly known as hward86.
by BWH on Mar 25, 2008 7:01 AM PDT reply actions 0 recs
Opening Day Two years ago was pretty bad too.
Zito getting walloped by the Yankees.
by Gromit1025 on Mar 25, 2008 7:03 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Yeah
and then didn't we come back and take the next two? or is that just how i want to remember it?
by IM4Oakgal on Mar 25, 2008 7:04 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
We did, but that game hurt pretty bad.
by Gromit1025 on Mar 25, 2008 7:05 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Yes it did.
I remember being sick about that one.
by IM4Oakgal on Mar 25, 2008 7:06 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
came back and won the divison, too
I'm here to talk about the past.
by 67MARQUEZ on Mar 25, 2008 7:59 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Not this bad.
I got 20 minutes of sleep tonight, threw off my entire sleep schedule, and then watched the A's blow the games about 5 different times. And had to deal with announcers who didn't know any of the A's players' names. This was brutal.
See you at 3 am Wednesday.
Formerly known as hward86.
by BWH on Mar 25, 2008 7:06 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Favorite botched name?
Was it Jack Hanrahan or Dale Barton?
I heard both of those at least twice.
by Eggman on Mar 25, 2008 12:58 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
I liked when Phillips didn't know Lew's name
He talked on and on about BB, but couldn't (dead air) remember the owner's name. Priceless
"Baseball is like a church. Many attend, but few understand." - Wes Westrum
by oaklandfan40 on Mar 25, 2008 1:07 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
that was by far a worse game
I was there, and also for the next two that the A's won to take that series.
by OaklandSi on Mar 25, 2008 7:08 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
The difference this year
I think that one was harder because this year, our expectations are not what they were that year. I've decided I'll be happy this year if Crosby plays in 140 games, and Harden gets 25 starts. That may be asking too much, but hey.
by Eggman on Mar 25, 2008 1:02 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
My worst:
Game 3, 2001 against the Yankees. I was in the LF bleachers. Dying.
"If you could fart into a kind of microprocessing funnel, and the funnel poured the fart into a computer, which converted the fart into words, this is what it would look like." - Ken Tremendous, FJM
by HigherPie on Mar 25, 2008 7:09 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
I was in right field
dying too
I'm here to talk about the past.
by 67MARQUEZ on Mar 25, 2008 7:59 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
I think the worst for me
Is Gibson's HR in the 88 World Series. It's pretty bad for a ten year old to endure. :(
by Gromit1025 on Mar 25, 2008 7:13 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
I have 2 friends who are Dodger fans who never let me forget it.
I continue to tell them it didnt happen-the series got cancelled in the ninth inning, but since one of them was there they continue to remind me.
It also doesn't help that the stupid reply is EVERYWHERE! I went to a restaurant on a Friday afternoon in the middle of December and they showed it. I was watching a Rockies Cubs ST game last weekend and they brought it up. THE STUPID PLAY WILL HAUNT ME FOR THE REST OF MY LIFE!!! But other than that I'm pretty much over it...
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by 5Aces on Mar 25, 2008 10:35 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
At least they were in it
It was a lot better than the Washington Generals v. Globetrotters example of how the Japanese fans thought it would be.
Green Hulk Fists
by oaklandSMASH on Mar 25, 2008 7:14 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Or how ESPN made it seem like that's what the Japanese fans thought it would be like
See the latest dumbass thing I've done -- camUra
by hunter on Mar 25, 2008 7:41 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
yeah
I bet we made quite an impression on them. That's the only way we'll get some respect.
by sf drift king on Mar 25, 2008 12:47 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Slice of 2008
Good pitching, bad pitching.
Good Hitting, bad hitting.
I made it through the whole game and I'll be up again tomorrow.
by fansince1980 on Mar 25, 2008 7:03 AM PDT reply actions 0 recs
a couple of not great defensive plays in the OF
and a big blunder running the bases
by OaklandSi on Mar 25, 2008 7:09 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
OF's
I've always felt that having 'good' outfielders were over rated until tonight, and Jack Cust wasn't apart of any of that....
by sf drift king on Mar 25, 2008 12:48 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
buck
was unbelievably shaky. it's one game, but maybe it's good he's not in center. sweeney looked pretty good out there.
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by flipgatey3 on Mar 25, 2008 2:20 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
And I want to say again...
The fact that MLB won't lift the blackout restriction on MLB.TV for a 3 am Opening Day game in Japan is disgraceful.
"If you could fart into a kind of microprocessing funnel, and the funnel poured the fart into a computer, which converted the fart into words, this is what it would look like." - Ken Tremendous, FJM
by HigherPie on Mar 25, 2008 7:03 AM PDT reply actions 0 recs
absolutely
that is garbage. i couldn't believe that when i heard it.
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by flipgatey3 on Mar 25, 2008 2:21 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Thanks for a fun night, AN!
I could have been asleep since 3, but I spent the night here. While the A's didn't make it worthwhile, you did! (And yes, Brown and Street should not be happy with themselves in any way. Or Cust...)
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by louismg on Mar 25, 2008 7:05 AM PDT reply actions 0 recs
Amazing night for AN
This place was hopping, and made my early morning worthwhile.
"If you could fart into a kind of microprocessing funnel, and the funnel poured the fart into a computer, which converted the fart into words, this is what it would look like." - Ken Tremendous, FJM
by HigherPie on Mar 25, 2008 7:06 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Yeah, the code did pretty well
Just an awful baseball game, terrible.
by paradox on Mar 25, 2008 8:59 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Oh, come on now.
It was a fantastic ball game. The only bad part was the outcome.
"If you could fart into a kind of microprocessing funnel, and the funnel poured the fart into a computer, which converted the fart into words, this is what it would look like." - Ken Tremendous, FJM
by HigherPie on Mar 25, 2008 9:03 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Just consider it practice
for being up at 3 a.m. in a little while...a LOT.
by Tyler Bleszinski on Mar 25, 2008 7:17 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Sorry, I am in denial.
What's this about 3 a.m. A's games? Are you familiar with a schedule I haven't seen yet?
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by louismg on Mar 25, 2008 8:29 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
I'm talking about the twin packages
your wife is harboring. Early mornings, my friend...early mornings. I would imagine even more so with twins.
by Tyler Bleszinski on Mar 25, 2008 8:42 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Still in denial
I've checked FedEx and UPS and still don't know what you're talking about.
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by louismg on Mar 25, 2008 9:55 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Non-baseball Tip
I've got four kids, the youngest is almost a year old, the oldest is 11. You will get a LOT more sleep if you keep your kid in bed with you until they're done breast feeding.
If keeping them in bed with you makes you nervious and/or squimish, get a crib that has a side you can lower and put it right next to the bed. Most of the sleep you lose comes from getting vertical and oriented to the crying/upset child. The more you can acomplish while horizontial the faster you can deal and the faster you can get back to sleep.
Don't bother trying to time any feedings until about 3 mos, it's a complete waste of time and will only make you and the child miserable. After 3 mos with a little patience you can get the feedings down to 1 or 2 a night, by 6 mos you can get them to 1 or none a night. This will translate to sleep shifts of about 3 hours at first, then about 6 hours. After 6 mos you can get 6+ or about a full nights sleep.
If you don't sweat the small stuff and follow your instincts, it's not that bad.
"Last night, Darth Vader came down from planet Vulcan and told me that if I didn't take Lorraine out that he'd melt my brain." - George McFly
by GreenAndGoldFish on Mar 25, 2008 11:07 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Hey,
The horizontal part is probably how all this got started in the first place.
"You may glory in a team triumphant, but you fall in love with a team in defeat."--The Boys of Summer
by alox on Mar 25, 2008 1:06 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Isn't that an assumption on your part
"Evidently, a large number of people said, 'We really need more vermin at the ballpark, Artie.'" - Nick (AN), 10/7/07
by doctorK on Mar 25, 2008 1:11 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Too right
I made it all the way to 2:55am last night before Lily decided that was the perfect time to let the world know something was displeasing her.
by green star oakland on Mar 25, 2008 10:55 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
I saw the whole game
I woke up just before first pitch. Some impressions (not counting the poor play by Street and Brown):
Crosby's batting stance looks different, still not close to plate, and still has some holes in his swing. But he got some hits slishing up the middle, which I think will increase the number of hits he gets. Not a lot of pitchers are going to groove one down the middle for him at the major league level, so it looks like he's finally trying to adjust to the pitching.
the ESPN commentary was lousy to listen to...but by far the worst part was when Selig was in the booth. Several times I thought they were not going to catch the action on the field, as they were so intent on putting the cameras on him.
Cust has a loop in his swing that mlb pitchers are going to exploit even more this year. I wonder if he is able to work on that. Hannahan looked good at the plate; however, I think chavez makes that play that opened the top of the ninth, instead of putting Lugo on base.
Tomorrow is another game. Let's Go Oakland!!! (I heard the chant even through the ESPN babble.)
by OaklandSi on Mar 25, 2008 7:07 AM PDT reply actions 0 recs
Your comments
are right on the money SI.
by IM4Oakgal on Mar 25, 2008 7:09 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
I even invented a word
(meaning to write "slashing", not "slishing")
by the way, ESPN said both games will be rebroadcast at 2 pm ET (11 AM PT).
by OaklandSi on Mar 25, 2008 7:11 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Good word...
slishing = slicing and slashing mixed together.
by IM4Oakgal on Mar 25, 2008 7:14 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Selig
I think I nearly fell asleep when Selig was in the booth. I found that I had stopped caring about the game, and realized 20 minutes later that I'd missed an inning despite having it right in front of me. But at least they were able to talk about finances, new stadiums, and "the strongest steroid policy in sports." (which, btw, I guess would imply that Selig has never heard of track and field)
His visit to the boot is basically a microcosm of his entire time as commissioner -- stress the financial aspects at the expense of fans. REAL fans, like the sort that wake their asses up for a game in the middle of the night, want to see baseball. To essentially stop covering the game so that Selig could talk was inexcusable.
by rageon on Mar 25, 2008 7:13 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
SAVE BASEBALL, SMOKE BUD!
selig is a joke.
also, why would MLB think that baseball needs more visibility in japan?
by greendatitiz on Mar 25, 2008 11:05 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
A's lose...
stock market down. Coincidence or correlation? Stat nerds?
Go A's!
by FoolshGame22 on Mar 25, 2008 7:09 AM PDT reply actions 0 recs
I have some RedSox friends...
Their gloating will know no bounds. :-(
by IM4Oakgal on Mar 25, 2008 7:15 AM PDT reply actions 0 recs
Funny how my Kramer clock
went off at literally 3:05 a.m. I had my cell phone alarm set for 3:10 a.m., but my body knew when it was time for baseball.
I said this several times in the game threads, but the A's are not going to win very many games if Buck and Cust don't wake up. They both looked pretty lost at the plate today. It's a different game if either one of those two come through and Street isn't dealing with a one-run save.
Believe it or not, I actually thought the pitch that Moss hit out was a pretty good pitch. It had some good downward movement, but Moss put a Blalock-type upcut swing on it. The pitch to Manny, not such a good pitch.
As for Brown, there is literally no excuse for him, but perhaps the A's emphasizing taking that extra base over and over again led to him wanting to be overly aggressive in thinking the throw was going past the cutoff man? There is no excuse for that stupidity, especially when you're the tying run. But maybe that was what was going through that airhead of his at the time.
Baseballgirl, excellent job managing a ton of comments and a ton of threads.
by Tyler Bleszinski on Mar 25, 2008 7:16 AM PDT reply actions 0 recs
Cust had cold streaks last year too.
This is ONE game.
by IM4Oakgal on Mar 25, 2008 7:18 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
I needed the alarm...
...but usually it takes me a couple tries to get up. Not today.
My wife asked why I wasn't tired at that time of night/morning (5am in Minnesota), and all I could think to say was, "Excited for baseball, I guess."
by rageon on Mar 25, 2008 7:20 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
"My body knew it was time"
Yep. I woke up at 3:07 am, for the first time in my life, and felt great. Baseball does strange things to strange men.
"If you could fart into a kind of microprocessing funnel, and the funnel poured the fart into a computer, which converted the fart into words, this is what it would look like." - Ken Tremendous, FJM
by HigherPie on Mar 25, 2008 7:20 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
I am most definitely
a STRANGE man.
by Tyler Bleszinski on Mar 25, 2008 7:22 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
ummm...
It's a different game if either one of those two come through and Street isn't dealing with a one-run save.
Aren't one-run saves what closers are paid for?
Go A's!
by FoolshGame22 on Mar 25, 2008 7:18 AM PDT reply actions 0 recs
Last time I checked they're paid for ANY kind of
save. And I still think that pitch to Moss wasn't a bad pitch. He just went down and got it.
by Tyler Bleszinski on Mar 25, 2008 7:21 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
I disagree. That pitch was a total meatball. OH WAIT -- I didn't see it.
**joins BBG in DirecTV hatred**
by mikev on Mar 25, 2008 7:59 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
They get paid for any kind of save.
They get paid A LOT if they can consistently get those 1-run saves. But hey this is just one game.
by Dilferules on Mar 25, 2008 11:24 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
i agree blez
that was a good pitch, down with some late action. not much you can do when a guy scoops that one
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by flipgatey3 on Mar 25, 2008 2:23 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
I'm not a huge offseason poster
so it was nice to come back to a poppin' AN.
Because of that, and because we were in it till the almost end (and possibly also because of sleep depravation), I don't feel to bad.
Tommorrow's another day and chance to split.
See you tommorrow.
GO A'S!!
Green Hulk Fists
by oaklandSMASH on Mar 25, 2008 7:20 AM PDT reply actions 0 recs
Brown ....ya gotta feel for him.
He must feel like a fool.
by IM4Oakgal on Mar 25, 2008 7:20 AM PDT reply actions 0 recs
He'll always be remembered
for the "Brown Boner".
No, wait...
"If you could fart into a kind of microprocessing funnel, and the funnel poured the fart into a computer, which converted the fart into words, this is what it would look like." - Ken Tremendous, FJM
by HigherPie on Mar 25, 2008 7:22 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Meant to
link to this, for any fans under the age of 80 and who don't watch all nine innings of Ken Burns' Baseball prior to every season.
"If you could fart into a kind of microprocessing funnel, and the funnel poured the fart into a computer, which converted the fart into words, this is what it would look like." - Ken Tremendous, FJM
by HigherPie on Mar 25, 2008 7:25 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Street...
started this season the same way he ended last season, with a blown save. For his career he has 76 saves in 97 chances; 78% is not closer material. I know it's the first game, but maybe it's time to start grooming another closer and trade Street while he has some value.
"just a beating heart ... plasma that we'll put into our uniform." - Billy Beane
by athleticsBB4life on Mar 25, 2008 7:20 AM PDT reply actions 0 recs
wow
i didn't realize his percentage was that bad...
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by flipgatey3 on Mar 25, 2008 2:24 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Emil Brown
Not a good start for a guy most A's fans never wanted on the team anyway.
I got to see the game until the top of the 10th, as I had to go to work. So I missed his baserunning. Could someone describe it in more detail? I haven't seen anyone do so yet.
by rageon on Mar 25, 2008 7:22 AM PDT reply actions 0 recs
He basically
had a double that scored the fifth run for the A's and as the throw was coming in from the outfield, he gambled and tried to go to third. When the ball got cut off by the cut-off man, Brown was caught in a rundown between second and third. He represented the tying run and the A's had two consecutive singles after that which would've at least tied the game.
by Tyler Bleszinski on Mar 25, 2008 7:26 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Barton running the bases
I too was relegated to listening to the 10th inning on the radio as I drove into work. The radio guys suggested that if the ball was not cut off there would have been a play on Barton at the plate. Is this accurate? Should the third base coach have held Barton at third thus eliminating any chance of Emil Brown going to 3rd? I mean after all Barton's run doesn't mean a whole lot without another run crossing.
We can be considered David, David knocks out Goliath. -Eric Chavez PT-42
by norcaldevilasu on Mar 25, 2008 9:58 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Yes
I think if the ball was not cut off Barton would have only a 60% chance at scoring. The tragedy was they were not holding him on so barton should have had a really good jump.
by Future Ed on Mar 25, 2008 10:03 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Even so...
the first rule of Little League baseball is to pay attention to the ball when you're running the bases, and never overrun. If the A's needed Barton's run to tie, and Emil was trying to save him? Sure. But as the tying run? Awful.
And I never got the impression that Barton was going to be out, although I was staring at the TV slack-jawed at Emil's baserunning.
So, bring on Bonds! Or, not... then, bring back Langerhans!! -One won lost one
by baseballgirl on Mar 25, 2008 10:06 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
That's what I was thinking while watching the play
and I bet if you polled 3rd base coaches across the league, the majority would've held Barton at 3rd because his run means nothing and it's not worth the chance of making an out. Holding him for the sake of keeping Brown at 2nd would probably not have even crossed their minds, though, since it would be almost imaginable for him to try and advance an extra base.
by faninphilly on Mar 25, 2008 10:19 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
I didn't see the play
THANKS DIRECTV
But if it wasn't gonna be close, it makes sense to let Barton score.
by mikev on Mar 25, 2008 10:21 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Agree 100%
Street would be an OK setup guy but scares nobody in the closer's role. He got by on guts that first year (left over from College WS) and hasn't done much since. I went to his bobblehead game...oh, but he blew the save that day too.
by PDSF on Mar 25, 2008 11:25 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Hasnt done much since?
Except post elite ERA/WHIP numbers every single year?
Bring back Hammer.
by OaktownPower on Mar 25, 2008 12:06 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Gary Thorne likes Jack HannRahan
Not to mention stating that this game in Japan was also a homecoming for Kurt Suzuki. Nice way of connecting the dots with ill-prepared assumptions.
I was stuck in the Transbay tube after Street walked Ortiz. And GOD it was a long trip to get back above ground, only of course to find Lenny DiNardo pitching a now 6-4 game. Argh! But we all knew the A's would make it interesting in the end.
Tomorrow Harden takes the mound for one of his 5 starts this year. Let's enjoy this rare occurence with a win! Go A's!
I am Ray Fosse's man crushes for Clay Wood and Jason Kendall.
by franks a lot on Mar 25, 2008 7:25 AM PDT reply actions 0 recs
Yeah Gary Thorne is a genius
I was cringing at every word out of his mouth. Hanrahan / Dale Barton / Suzuki from Japan / Why the Sox getting all the hype etc........ Oh I liked when Billy was shown and Steve Phillips had to research and find out Lew Wolffs name. Nice 10 second pause to figure out who he was.
Come on ESPN pull your heads out,,, you sent a couple dumbasses over there to call these games. Leave them there.
by HRH on Mar 25, 2008 11:34 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Look
I know the A's lost, and I know they lost to Boston, but on the mlb.com game summary, maybe we could get ONE video highlight of something the A's did? Ellis' homer? Jack's? Hell, even Brown's baserunning? Something not encompassed under "Dice-K's outing"?

"If you could fart into a kind of microprocessing funnel, and the funnel poured the fart into a computer, which converted the fart into words, this is what it would look like." - Ken Tremendous, FJM
by HigherPie on Mar 25, 2008 7:30 AM PDT reply actions 0 recs
ESPN is almost as pathetic as Emil's baserunning...
almost.
Go A's!
by FoolshGame22 on Mar 25, 2008 7:33 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
ooops...
MLB.com, too. Same dif.
Go A's!
by FoolshGame22 on Mar 25, 2008 7:34 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Washington Generals
We don't see them included in highlights unless its one of the Harlem Globetrotters intentionally bouncing the ball off one of the Generals' heads.
I am Ray Fosse's man crushes for Clay Wood and Jason Kendall.
by franks a lot on Mar 25, 2008 7:35 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Yahoo! says Dice-K had a complete game.
I know I'm tired, but am I that tired?
by Jennifer on Mar 25, 2008 7:41 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Typo
It was supposed to say a completely sucky game.
The candy and the baseball all night long: )
by Englishmajor on Mar 25, 2008 1:25 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
that sucked
The A's colors are green and gold.
by mikeA on Mar 25, 2008 7:40 AM PDT reply actions 0 recs
gives us hope
at least we can compete against good teams with the roster the a's have
"This guy threw at his own son in a father-son game." -Harry Doyle from Major League
by greenandgoldpolarbear on Mar 25, 2008 7:45 AM PDT reply actions 0 recs
You should read the email they got from me......
Bring back Hammer.
by OaktownPower on Mar 25, 2008 9:32 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
even worse, the Associated Press
the Associated Press is also of the mindset that the outage was only important to Boston fans:
"(03-25) 11:14 PDT BOSTON (AP) --
Some Red Sox fans who got up early to watch the team's season opener against Oakland ended up seeing nothing at all because of problems at DirecTV.
Technical difficulties at DirecTV blanked out NESN, the cable network that carries the Red Sox and ESPN2."
Bob Geren, on 8/2/07, on the success of Alan Embree as new interim closer: "What can I say,... he's been our Steady Tremendous Bullpen Man"
by popcornjames on Mar 25, 2008 11:36 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
dangit, wheres my link
http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/article.cgi?f=/n/a/2008/03/25/sports/s111452D63.DTL
sorry, I'm still getting used to this.
Bob Geren, on 8/2/07, on the success of Alan Embree as new interim closer: "What can I say,... he's been our Steady Tremendous Bullpen Man"
by popcornjames on Mar 25, 2008 11:37 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
"got up early" to watch on NESN?
Ooooooooh, 6:00 a.m.! Wimps. I used to be at work by 6:00 a.m., every single day. Uphill! Barefoot! In the snow!
(Okay, not barefoot or in the snow. But upstairs.)
"There is an HR in Hanrahan." ~ mikeA
by Poppy on Mar 25, 2008 11:40 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Yes...
because NO ONE on GOD'S GREEN FUCKING EARTH WOULD WAKE UP EARLY TO WATCH THE A'S!!
JENNIFER SMASH!
Rich, love, I'm waking up early - again - just to see you. I want you to KILL some effing Red Sox. I don't care how you do it.
"I have a strange urge to make copies." JediLeroy
by Jennifer on Mar 25, 2008 11:51 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
I have gotten 3 hours of sleep in the last... um... < math math math >
...52 hours. And none in the last 30. I'm still waiting to fall over so I can sleep until it's time to get up and watch the A's again. I think within the next couple of hours, I'm going to suddenly go lights-out like a Sim when you don't give them any furniture to sleep on -- just fall right in the middle of the floor.
"There is an HR in Hanrahan." ~ mikeA
by Poppy on Mar 25, 2008 11:57 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
How obnoxious. In a perfect world, this would be the only game they win all year. I know that won't happen... but it would make me feel SO GOOD.
by drmmerchk on Mar 25, 2008 1:35 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Reality Check
That's what that game was for me. I'll take a competitive Season to go along w/ 78 wins...thank you very much. And it looks like CarGo will be our *Real* Opening Day CF. Here's to the future.
by Colorado Fan on Mar 25, 2008 7:47 AM PDT reply actions 0 recs
love rotoworld stat...
Street 53 for last 70 in save ops.; 75%....check please
F' the extension!
"just a beating heart ... plasma that we'll put into our uniform." - Billy Beane
by athleticsBB4life on Mar 25, 2008 7:49 AM PDT reply actions 0 recs
I know this was addressed in the past...
but man alive, Huston's teeth are REALLY white in that Gameday picture! The A's must have some great dental coverage...
I am Ray Fosse's man crushes for Clay Wood and Jason Kendall.
by franks a lot on Mar 25, 2008 7:54 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Cust 4 K's
I would start my Cust bashing, but I'll be banned from the site.
Prediction: Cust breaks all-time K record..not much of a prediction
"just a beating heart ... plasma that we'll put into our uniform." - Billy Beane
by athleticsBB4life on Mar 25, 2008 7:52 AM PDT reply actions 0 recs
If he's healthy
I think it's a lock. As are 35 homers and 100 walks.
"If you could fart into a kind of microprocessing funnel, and the funnel poured the fart into a computer, which converted the fart into words, this is what it would look like." - Ken Tremendous, FJM
by HigherPie on Mar 25, 2008 7:53 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Cust should've ended with
2 ks and 2 walks,
oh well,
at least there's always tomorrow
¿ƃıs uʍop ǝpısdn sɐɥ uɐɔ ı
by Keze on Mar 25, 2008 8:03 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
i couldn't believe
how shitty the calls on his two looking K's were. one crossed the plate...oh wait it didn't actually cross the plate, because it was on the left batter's box line. the other one was off the plate by a foot. that was horrible.
President of the Joey Devine fan club as of 1/15/08. Accepting applications for other positions. "He has no equivalent." -Paul DePodesta on Jeremy Brown
by flipgatey3 on Mar 25, 2008 2:27 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
As I said somewhere else...
Cust knows the strike zone better than the umpires do.
I honestly think some of them call him out as a pure power trip.
Your 2008 Athletics: It's Nothing Personal.
by PaulThomas on Mar 25, 2008 6:16 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
thanks
Cust needs some blame two...four k's?! really?
We've never been in that position. We wouldn't know how to operate, I mean, do we get him a corsage?-Billy Beane on signing a high profile FA
by DyeLongJustice on Mar 25, 2008 8:14 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
yeah im glad somebody
brought this up. well on his way to the K record!
not that i really care, as long as he gets in his bombs and walks
by oakinboston on Mar 25, 2008 8:21 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Record breaking season
But count me in the group that doesn't care
by Future Ed on Mar 25, 2008 10:05 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
I had a disturbing dream last night
It had me getting up in some un-godly early morning hour to watch what was a special extra game of the 2007 season.
alaska A
by ak_A on Mar 25, 2008 7:56 AM PDT reply actions 0 recs
As someone who missed the game...
my thoughts are probably unenlightening. But here it is.
I don't know how many times in recent years the A's have suffered through crushing defeats against the Red Sox, but it's been a lot. So that isn't exactly surprising, and shouldn't be too discouraging. This happened when we had a good team, and now we don't. And it's nothing new for the A's to stop hitting when the opposing team's starter looks vulnerable. The good news is that this loss won't be the one that costs the team a playoff spot.
As for the individuals, well, what did you expect?
-- Emil Brown is roster filler.
-- Street hasn't been good for a while now.
-- Hannahan isn't as good a defensive player as Chavez, which isn't his fault. But he hit a home run, so is forgiven by me.
-- Cust strikes out a lot.
I did wake up at 4 something, but need my sleep more. I'm glad I resisted the temptation to get up, because I probably would have stayed up, and that just would have aggravated me.
by bear88 on Mar 25, 2008 8:02 AM PDT reply actions 0 recs
note to self: re read bear88's
post this evening at bed time....print and post on bathroom door.
alaska A
by ak_A on Mar 25, 2008 8:04 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Street hasnt been good for a while now??
Was it the 2.88 ERA and 0.94(!!) WHIP last year?
Or the 3.31 ERA and a 1.09 WHIP in 06?
Not healthy yea...but not good? That's ridiculous.
Bring back Hammer.
by OaktownPower on Mar 25, 2008 9:34 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Huston Street is garbage
Ever since he hurt the nerve in his elbow he has turned into a gascan
Games are hard enough to win without Street being a total implosion and Brown getting over anxious.
by TimTimTimbo on Mar 25, 2008 9:48 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Haha..garbage, so freaking ridiculous
Over-react much? Let's see, late in the season after injury? You mean September when he was 0.79 in 11 outings? Or was it the WHIP under 1 in the second half last year?
Those number sure are garbage and "gascan" like.....Nice call, right on the money.
Bring back Hammer.
by OaktownPower on Mar 25, 2008 10:08 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Not over-reacting at all
He has not been the same since he hurt his elbow.
by TimTimTimbo on Mar 25, 2008 10:30 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
You're right
Oh, wait.
He's been better.
... ok.
Your 2008 Athletics: It's Nothing Personal.
by PaulThomas on Mar 25, 2008 10:35 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
OT Breaking News
XM and Sirius cleared to merge.
"If you could fart into a kind of microprocessing funnel, and the funnel poured the fart into a computer, which converted the fart into words, this is what it would look like." - Ken Tremendous, FJM
by HigherPie on Mar 25, 2008 8:05 AM PDT reply actions 0 recs
this one is already behind me
I am more pissed about the DirecTV fiasco. This team has shortcomings; no one should be shocked. And against a team like Boston, that's a death wish.
However, I enjoy beating the Sox as much as the next guy or gal, so I'll see you all bright and early tomorrow morning, and we'll go after them again.
Great job by bbg and ANG today. Fun experience.
I'm here to talk about the past.
by 67MARQUEZ on Mar 25, 2008 8:06 AM PDT reply actions 0 recs
Thoughts
Blanton: good game, but he you could see he ran out of gas in the 6th.
Street: not worried. Least of our problems. The save % stuff is mostly bs.
Foulke: he is our set-up man? really? Pithed a good inning though...
Dale: had some great ABs. He is good.
Cust: that's what you'll get a lot of the time. Not the guy I want to see up late in games.
Brown: He looks very good at the plate. Baserunning doesn't get much worse. He also looked a bit shaky in the field.
Crosby: 2-5, schmoo for schmive. Terrible swing, terrible hitter. He hit the first four balls straight into the ground. Should we be playing Murphy? I'm not sure...
R. Sweeney: Did better than his 0-4, but his hitting will be very poor.
Geren:
Walking Ortiz was dumb. Street's stuff is good against LHs. That second run often is (and was this morning) important, so it's dumb to let that run on unless there is a big difference between the two hitters you are contemplating facing. Walking the bases loaded would have been dumbest of all. You bring in the possibility of a BB, WP, and a larger class of hits bringing in the run, plus you put the insurance run in scoring position. Mike Lowell hit .324 last year. That would have been incredibly stupid.
And again: Foulke? He has a bad year, then retires for a year, then sucks in the spring, and suddenly he's the setup man?
The A's colors are green and gold.
by mikeA on Mar 25, 2008 8:07 AM PDT reply actions 0 recs
Also
Those are the 9 guys I want to see against RHPs. Against LHPs the best option seems to be replacing Cust with M. Sweeney and R. Sweeney with Denorfia. Crosby should not bat 2 slots behind Cust, as that is not a good way to take advantage of Cust's BBs.
The A's colors are green and gold.
by mikeA on Mar 25, 2008 8:34 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
DirecTV vs Dish Network
I used to have DirecTV and I absolutely hate it. It's by far the worst television provider I have ever had the misfortune of using. Stack sub-standard satellite connectivity with simply horrible customer service and you've got yourself an all around crappy television provider.
I made the move to Dish Network years ago and it has always been great. I was in total disgust that DirecTV gained the exclusivity of MLB Extra Innings, but to be quite honest... the total crapfest that is DirecTV isn't worth paying for to get MLB:EI.
by mynameistyler on Mar 25, 2008 8:11 AM PDT reply actions 0 recs
I Should Also Mention...
ESPN2 was up and running all morning long for the ballgame on Dish. It's also tolerable on my end that I can watch all 162 Cardinals games every year split between all regular programming stations. I wish I could get MLB:EI so I could watch the A's, Braves, Indians, Royals, and Angels regularly (yeah, I have a problem) but I just can't justify ever going back to DirecTV. Talk about getting burned.
by mynameistyler on Mar 25, 2008 8:13 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Fun game until the 9th.
I had a great time with The Dogfather, Poppy, Englishmajor, MikeA and Rudy, along with all the local TV news stations, at Ricky's in San Leandro. It was so nice to have people with whom to rip the ESPN announcers for their proclamations regarding "Dale Barton" and "Jack Hanrahan."
"God doesn't pay attention to your cute little hypotheticals." -- Jeff from LL
by oblique on Mar 25, 2008 8:15 AM PDT reply actions 0 recs
So...
when will you guys be on the news? :P
"I have a strange urge to make copies." JediLeroy
by Jennifer on Mar 25, 2008 8:18 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
We were actually live..
One of Rudy's friends saw him on TV while she was working out and showed up at the bar to say hi for a couple of minutes -- that was randomly cool.
Oh, and there were many jokes at the expense of the cardboard cutout girl.
"God doesn't pay attention to your cute little hypotheticals." -- Jeff from LL
by oblique on Mar 25, 2008 8:37 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
I'm starting the season with my camera-dodging skills in top form.
Bonus points for simultaneously dodging three cameras being wielded by professionals with spotlights.
"There is an HR in Hanrahan." ~ mikeA
by Poppy on Mar 25, 2008 11:46 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Don't forget the radio reporter! You dodged her too!
I didn't actually realize the other news crews had showed up until we stepped out into the parking lot and found the trucks with their microwaves up.
The candy and the baseball all night long: )
by Englishmajor on Mar 25, 2008 12:18 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Well...
Since I can barely speak in an intelligible or interesting fashion even when I'm alert and at my best, I didn't think my 24th sleepless hour was the best time for me to encounter a microphone...
"There is an HR in Hanrahan." ~ mikeA
by Poppy on Mar 25, 2008 12:25 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Why are you dodging the Radio person. I thought you were like me, I
have the perfect face for the radio.
by theblackpearl on Mar 25, 2008 1:47 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
And a voice perfect for mime?
"Evidently, a large number of people said, 'We really need more vermin at the ballpark, Artie.'" - Nick (AN), 10/7/07
by doctorK on Mar 25, 2008 1:48 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
What a let down.
I thought the team played a really good game, aside from the mental errors. I was impressed with their ability to fight back after giving up the lead. The mental errors can be fixed. Brown should learn from the base-running gaffe and Geren will hopefully learn that to walk Ortiz to get to Manny is just stupid, especially when there is another open base. Just pitch to Papi! AHHH!!!
But what really concerns me about this team is the amount of base-runners left on-base. This is my biggest problem with this team, same as last year. Man, I really hope they figure out how to produce some runs. (sending positive vibes to Japan)
by davidvangorp on Mar 25, 2008 8:18 AM PDT reply actions 0 recs
Going to be a Long Season
started just like it ended they need to rethink Street he was said to be hurt last year and says he is healthy now and still blows saves. Blanton looked ok but not great and how many runners did they leave on base the first 4 innings come on A's !!!!
ChrisB
by ChrisB on Mar 25, 2008 8:35 AM PDT reply actions 0 recs
Leaving Street in for 2
seems very much like questionable judgment to me -- he hadn't gone more than 1 all spring (as far as I know), he struggled with 2-inning outings the last time he was healthy, he hadn't had a particularly stellar first inning. That's one call I definitely don't get.
"God doesn't pay attention to your cute little hypotheticals." -- Jeff from LL
by oblique on Mar 25, 2008 8:39 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
+1
That is the one thing I have not seen brought up much that I just did not understand. It is the first game of the season, why is your closer going 2 innings -- when he is not particularly good at multiple inning outings in general?
by AsFanInLA on Mar 25, 2008 9:15 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Trying to get the win
Geren left Street in to keep the game tied and try and get the win for Street in the bottom of the inning. Good plan if it had worked, but it didn't and now Street must feel even worse.
I agree with the comments above that walking Ortiz to get to Manny was crazy. Geren was doing a decent job of managing until the 10th...
by LoveDemAs on Mar 25, 2008 9:41 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Thank God he won't be available tonight
should we be in a position to win
by TimTimTimbo on Mar 25, 2008 9:50 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
easy there turbo
you already were wrong twice a little bit up the page
President of the Joey Devine fan club as of 1/15/08. Accepting applications for other positions. "He has no equivalent." -Paul DePodesta on Jeremy Brown
by flipgatey3 on Mar 25, 2008 2:30 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
thanks to my good friends influenza and codeine ...
... I only caught innings 2-6.
Only items I'd add that haven't been addressed are:
1. That wasn't the OF lineup I was expecting (or wanting)
2. Buck looked terrible in the field -- not only the catchable-by-Cust "double," but his dying-quail throw home on the next hit
3. Cust wasn't controlling the zone at all, and the switching speeds really messed him up, He was swinging at stuff he usually lets alone.
4. Crosby's ever-changing swing/stance is like a ratty old quilt: you can move it around and squish it up all you want, but there are still going to be massive holes in it.
5. I actually disagree about the A's failing to put Matsuzaka away: he was so wild in 1&2 that there simply weren't many decent pitches for the A's to hit. Then, after he got the favorable K call on Cust, he got the confidence to start hitting his spots ... and there weren't many decent pitches for the A's to hit.
way to speed humanities demise douche bags! @('.')@
by monkeyball on Mar 25, 2008 8:46 AM PDT reply actions 0 recs
I disagree with #5 very much
Watch Crosby's at-bat. Just awful. The A's had the bases loaded TWICE in the early innings, well before Dice K settled in, and they couldn't hit one hard-hit ball to break it open. Cust just stood there. Better to K swinging there than to take that pitch. Just hit it....at least try.
The A's should have hung 4-5 early on him and they didn't.
And paid dearly for it.
So, bring on Bonds! Or, not... then, bring back Langerhans!! -One won lost one
by baseballgirl on Mar 25, 2008 11:41 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Hunh?
That pitch to Cust (beside being 6" inside) was a Lowe-to-Melhuse/Long-style cutter in on the hands. Cust especially shouldn't swing at that pitch. (If last year is to be proven a fluke and Cust is merely an ordinary avatar of Kong, then he should prove it so by sticking to what works for him; if he starts playing slap-happy like Kendall, he becomes worthless.)
Yeah, Crosby's AB sucked -- but not because he didn't rope the pitch he did hit, but because he wasn't more patient.
Matsuzaka couldn't find the strike zone until he was gifted with that call on Cust, after which he had the confidence to pitch to the corners and miss bats, instead of pitching off the plate to miss the strike zone.
way to speed humanities demise douche bags! @('.')@
by monkeyball on Mar 25, 2008 12:05 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Totally agree with that on the gift to Dice K
That was 6 inches inside and ridiculous. But I feel like Cust takes himself a little too seriously given his track record.
My impression ob Bobby was that he's grown up some. I felt like his attitude was better and I thought his swing was alright. And honestly his defense is pretty good. I like having he and Ellis up the middle.
"Not in your wildest alcoholic nightmare would you ever imagines such events unfolding!" Bill King
by Buck Turgidson on Mar 25, 2008 12:46 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
His track record is of a guy
who knows what a strike is better than the umpires do.
If I was him, I'd take myself seriously too.
Your 2008 Athletics: It's Nothing Personal.
by PaulThomas on Mar 25, 2008 1:06 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
same here
on both K looking calls, neither were strikes. dice was getting every call after the first five outs
President of the Joey Devine fan club as of 1/15/08. Accepting applications for other positions. "He has no equivalent." -Paul DePodesta on Jeremy Brown
by flipgatey3 on Mar 25, 2008 2:31 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Emil-farking-Brown.
That was a Byrnesian -- nay, a Tejadan -- no, a SlideJeremySlideGiambian blunder of epic proportions. CarGo's stock just went up.
That said, Street and Geren blew chunks, as well. Walking the consecutively ineffective Papi to pitch to Manny who had already doubled was a total gaffe, and also cost us a run or both.
The meaning of life is not so much 'found,' as it is 'made.' --Opus
by The Dogfather on Mar 25, 2008 8:56 AM PDT reply actions 0 recs
I know it's after the fact and all, but "best defense" was supposedly the lineup, right?
So, why was Denorfia - our alleged best defensive CF - on the bench with RSween and Brown playing, instead of Sweeney, Denorfia, Buck from left to right?
by mikev on Mar 25, 2008 9:13 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Definitely Byrnesian
Much of Emil's day seemed Byrnesian actually. He made me nervous on every catch, he was slow to the ball in the corner on Manny's 2-run double. The awful gaffe on the bases. Just a mess, I hope he sits a few out.
by dscel on Mar 25, 2008 9:14 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
I'm not mean, so I'll only ask that he sits out the next 161 games.
by mikev on Mar 25, 2008 9:17 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
the guy hit two balls hard
who else did that? give him a break.
President of the Joey Devine fan club as of 1/15/08. Accepting applications for other positions. "He has no equivalent." -Paul DePodesta on Jeremy Brown
by flipgatey3 on Mar 25, 2008 2:32 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Like I said before
If he was the DH and he had a pinch runner taking off from home plate the second contact was made with the pitch, I'd be ecstatic. However, Little league baserunning mistakes are just plain inexcusable.
by mikev on Mar 25, 2008 2:39 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Then he weakly through it to the cut off man,
I wasn't impressed.
by OldhamA on Mar 25, 2008 10:36 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Can someone explain why we don't have a baserunning coach
I mean I was just reminded of three IMPORTANT times when knowing how to run well could have meant an entirely different history in Oakland.
And since I'm on the subject of running which makes me think of Ricky, why is #24 being worn at all? What are we, the 9ers?
"Baseball is like a church. Many attend, but few understand." - Wes Westrum
by oaklandfan40 on Mar 25, 2008 1:19 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
not to mention 25
neither of those should be worn
President of the Joey Devine fan club as of 1/15/08. Accepting applications for other positions. "He has no equivalent." -Paul DePodesta on Jeremy Brown
by flipgatey3 on Mar 25, 2008 2:32 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Emil Brown = T-Long
Did Emil Brown go to the T-Long/Jeremy Giambi School of Baserunning?
"Good hunting weather" - Todd Helton
by 510inDenver on Mar 25, 2008 9:17 AM PDT reply actions 0 recs
Is the game on tomorrow?
Are you all saying it was blacked out on MLBTV? WHY! Hopefully it will be on ESPN? We will win tomorrow! Don't lose hope!
by A'sfansince1970 on Mar 25, 2008 9:26 AM PDT reply actions 0 recs
I have DirecTV
Live in the PNW. No probs. this morning. But have had issues in the past.
How painful to watch Emil out there. Let's put this one behind us and get tomorrow mornings game. After all a healthy Rich is goin'.
by HRH on Mar 25, 2008 9:26 AM PDT reply actions 0 recs
Unfortunately...
HRH is the same letters for Hurt Rich Harden
http://athleticsforlife.com
by Kelly on Mar 25, 2008 9:36 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Actually my Son's Initials but
Healthy Rich Harden works too.
by HRH on Mar 25, 2008 11:24 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
You are H. R. Haldeman's dad?
"Evidently, a large number of people said, 'We really need more vermin at the ballpark, Artie.'" - Nick (AN), 10/7/07
by doctorK on Mar 25, 2008 1:18 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
You must have HD
It was viewable oon channel 72 if you have HD. It was off on ESPN2 and NESN for everyone else I have talked to.
Bring back Hammer.
by OaktownPower on Mar 25, 2008 9:36 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Oh man
Im on the East Coast so 6 am wasnt as bad as you folks out west. But then to have to listen to Thorne keep calling Daric Barton Dale was enough to make me mute it for awhile. That and Steve Phillips almost never shutting up. He literally gives me a headache. But now too the game itself. I may be in the minority here but I have not been confident in Huston going back almost 2 years now. I get nervous every time he comes in these days. This make something like 21 blown saves over the past few years. Thats just way way to many. Now on to Brown. Easily the dumbest play since Giambi not sliding or Byrnes not touching home plate. There is a reason this guy is a journeyman major leaguer and we just were witness to exhibit A today. I dont understand why he is even in there to begin with. he has no power not that good a fielder and now we know for sure he is a zombie when running the bases. And just a quick note about Hannahan. In my city here in Erie PA we have a AA team affiliated with the Tigers. Jack was our third basemen for 2 years and he was hands down the most popular player on the team because of his grittiness and hustle. hell never be a big masher but man I like having him as a new cheaper Scutaro type of player. Keep up the good work Jack. We miss you here in Erie. See ya folks later. Bob in Erie PA
by bteribery on Mar 25, 2008 9:34 AM PDT reply actions 0 recs
Gary Thorne an Steve Phillips were awful
Hopefully both are left in Japan when the plane leaves. I usually don't mind Phillips too much but after this morning, forget it.
by HRH on Mar 25, 2008 11:26 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
I almost agree on Brown
It was frustrating at the time. He made a stupid play. But I think he thought the throw was going home and wouldn't hit a cutoff man. He should have realized that the first run didn't matter as much as the second run, and held up at second. But I have a hard time blaming Brown for running into an out after knocking in a run when Street blew the save. To me, this game falls on Street for not closing the door and Geren for walking so many people intentionally.
Chiba Lotte lost simultaneously in the fighter plane of the Japanese ham.
by JediLeroy on Mar 25, 2008 9:40 AM PDT reply actions 0 recs
I'm so pissed that I woke up to watch the game
only to have DirecTV give me the shaft. I'll be talking to some unfortunate rep in a few minutes. Again.
Thing about the game that gives me a little hope...our offense didn't roll over and die when they lost the lead. They actually took it back, and where in the process of doing it again until the unfortunate Mr. Brown decided to give the game away.
"You may glory in a team triumphant, but you fall in love with a team in defeat."--The Boys of Summer
by alox on Mar 25, 2008 9:41 AM PDT reply actions 0 recs
Some encouragement
A frustrating loss is a frustrating loss, to be sure.
But-- it's much better to lose to a AAA scrub's random home run than to, I dunno, a Josh Beckett no-hitter or something.
I find poker analogies are kind of useful here, so bear with me. Sometimes your opponent will get lucky and win on the final card, after trailing you in the hand up to that point. Irritating? Absolutely. But it's a good thing, because it indicates that you were betting on better cards and he was betting on worse cards. In the long run, assuming the deal isn't crooked, you'll make money on those hands.
In order to have your opponent suck out and win a game he shouldn't have, you have to have been in a position where you were going to win to begin with. Ideally, of course, you would like to ALWAYS force your opponent to get lucky to win. This is a long baseball season, so that's not going to happen. But it's a good start.
I guess what I'm saying is that while it's a loss in the standings, it's actually a good thing from the reading-tea-leaves standpoint.
Your 2008 Athletics: It's Nothing Personal.
by PaulThomas on Mar 25, 2008 9:44 AM PDT reply actions 0 recs
Brown makes me frown
:-(
"It's like déjà vu all over again." -yogi berra
by Cheezombie on Mar 25, 2008 9:46 AM PDT reply actions 0 recs
A pretty good game
Save for the late inning gaffes that cost the A's a victory, it was a pretty entertaining game. Hopefully Street will finish the job if called on tomorrow, Geren will intentionally walk only when really necessary and Ramirez will think his hotel closet is the entrance to the Green Monster and get stuck there.
"[Moneyball] is huge [in Japan], I guess, so I'm like a David Hasselhoff type or something..." -- Billy Beane
by FormerHuntsvilleStar on Mar 25, 2008 9:47 AM PDT reply actions 0 recs
Crappy Day
Failed my driving test, and came in to watch the A's lose.
by painey on Mar 25, 2008 9:47 AM PDT reply actions 0 recs
I woke up a few minutes ago to the sound of our fire alarms going off (my mom was warming the iron up under the smoke detector... whoops! but no fire thankfully) so I decided to come on to AN because I'm a sucker for spoilers.
I taped the game so I'm going to watch it in a few (for once I'm actually thankful for Dish Network) but I plan on turning the game off when Huston comes in the game.
Sucks to hear about Brown's base running mistake. Guys not executing obvious and easy things is one of my hugest pet peeves. If I'm feeling better tonight I plan on being up to chat with AN.
LETS GO A's!!!!!!
by drmmerchk on Mar 25, 2008 9:51 AM PDT reply actions 0 recs
err change fire alarms to smoke detectors... I'm tired.
by drmmerchk on Mar 25, 2008 9:51 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
"warming the iron up"
Sure, if that's what you want to call it
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by Keze on Mar 25, 2008 11:11 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Oh man.
Well I was (am) severly jetlagged and was going to try to wake up for this game but only got up instead to catch the bottom of the 9th on...That was painful.
It was horrendous having to listen to the ESPN broadcast however. I nearly died when they said that the As must have been tired of the Red Sox getting all the attention in Japan...uh YEAH whose fault is that morons?!!?
Anyway, bummed to have missed the night owl AN game thread but hoping to catch up on enough sleep today to celebrate our first win of the season with y'all tomorrow morning.
"I've got a lot of wins waiting in these white shoes." -Dan Meyer
by pam5981 on Mar 25, 2008 9:58 AM PDT reply actions 0 recs
They were bad.
I actually was wishing they'd say "EEEEEHH!!" after every pitch so at least I'd have something to laugh at..
"God doesn't pay attention to your cute little hypotheticals." -- Jeff from LL
by oblique on Mar 25, 2008 10:21 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
I woke to see Jack Cust
stirke out to end the inning with the bases loaded.
I was about ready to put my foot through the TV, but I found the mute button in time. I actually enjoyed the game until the 9th inning.
But, my god will ESPN ever get off Boston's nut sack. Even with no sound you could tell who their favorite was, I actually expected to see another replay of the bloody sock. AND Holy Crap - News Flash - NOBODY wants to see Bud "combover" Selig in the middle of a Game. Fuck, put the cameras back on the field you idiots.
Did anyone else see Emil Brown fall over catching a routine fly out? Man, bad baserunning, average minus fielding and mediocre offense, what was the reason we signed him?
Where are the bat boys? Those kids in the Helmits give me the creeps. Jeez - is there a bad si-fi movie with too many extras?
WOW - got up too early & had too much coffee already. Can you tell?
"Last night, Darth Vader came down from planet Vulcan and told me that if I didn't take Lorraine out that he'd melt my brain." - George McFly
by GreenAndGoldFish on Mar 25, 2008 10:08 AM PDT reply actions 0 recs
+ infinity....
today is the day I started my ESPN boycott - unless it's the only channel a game is on.
NO MORE espn.com for me. I've tried the boycott before but their North East / SEC lovefest has pushed me to the brink.
by 33SwisherSweet on Mar 25, 2008 11:04 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
It was wretched but not a surprise
I've watched Emil Brown in Kansas City for a couple of years and not only is he just not a very talented player but he's also a complete knucklehead. I was appalled when he made the roster and knew it was only a matter of time before he made a soul-killing play that would cost us a game. I'm kind of pissed that play was in the very first game of the year watched in lieu of sleep.
This guy is a throwaway and it's shameful that he's a starter. That tells me a lot about the quality of team Billy Beane is throwing out there this year. But I'm still getting up early to watch again tomorrow.
by coffee roaster on Mar 25, 2008 10:20 AM PDT reply actions 0 recs
Brown over sweeney
I wondred why brown was in left instead of sweeney at DH. That seemed odd.
by Future Ed on Mar 25, 2008 10:27 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Defense in the Dome -
I don't think the A's feel Cust can handle the OF in an unfamiliar domed stadium. I agree. I'd start Mike Sweeney at DH against the lefty (Lester) Wednesday but stick with Brown in LF, Denorfia in CF, Bucky in RF.
I like Cindi. A. She never pretends to know more than she does. B. She has unbridled enthusiasm for her "Hotties," and isn't afraid to show it. -IM4Oakgal
by Nico on Mar 25, 2008 10:44 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
nor did Buck in RF
way to speed humanities demise douche bags! @('.')@
by monkeyball on Mar 25, 2008 12:08 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
My take on Brown's baserunning blunder:
He was trying to get to third with one out and figure if the throw was relayed home he had a great chance to make it.
Problem is, since Barton's run meant less than Brown's (though his out at the plate would have meant something) the Red Sox would have to have made a bone-headed play to relay the ball home if they didn't have Barton dead to rights. Brown's blunder was in committing BEFORE he saw the ball being relayed - Pedroia just had to catch the one hop feed, turn and get Brown in a rundown.
Had the throw gone home, too late to get Barton, and Brown sneaked into third, it would have looked great. But the odds weren't there because there was no reason to think the throw was going to be made in the first place.
I like Cindi. A. She never pretends to know more than she does. B. She has unbridled enthusiasm for her "Hotties," and isn't afraid to show it. -IM4Oakgal
by Nico on Mar 25, 2008 10:43 AM PDT reply actions 0 recs
Not to mention
He looked absolutely LOST out there. Like he had no plan, nothing in mind, as he stood there being tagged out. Ugly.
So, bring on Bonds! Or, not... then, bring back Langerhans!! -One won lost one
by baseballgirl on Mar 25, 2008 10:46 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Of course at the moment he was tagged out,
he needed a plan to avoid Geren more than one to avoid the SS.
I like Cindi. A. She never pretends to know more than she does. B. She has unbridled enthusiasm for her "Hotties," and isn't afraid to show it. -IM4Oakgal
by Nico on Mar 25, 2008 10:53 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
youkilis caught the relay IIRC
but solid analysis
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by flipgatey3 on Mar 25, 2008 2:36 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Glad I missed the implosion
Not surprised about Brown. He's terrible. I saw enough of him in KC to know that. As for Street, the stat on the front page says he's blown 17 of 70 save chances? That is flat out not getting it done. Something needs to be addressed in that department.
Might as well Jump! - Van Halen
by sprtsnwyn on Mar 25, 2008 10:54 AM PDT reply actions 0 recs
Such as?
Voluntarily choosing to lose more games by putting a worse player in the position?
That sounds like an excellent idea.
Your 2008 Athletics: It's Nothing Personal.
by PaulThomas on Mar 25, 2008 11:15 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
I guess we'll just lose games with him.
Not like Embree was better last year or anything.
Might as well Jump! - Van Halen
by sprtsnwyn on Mar 25, 2008 11:21 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
He wasn't.
Your 2008 Athletics: It's Nothing Personal.
by PaulThomas on Mar 25, 2008 11:57 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Debatable
BPro had Embree as the 25th best reliever in MLB in 2007, 3.335 wins, in term of expected wins above replacement, using the win expectancy tables. They had Street as the 52nd best, 1.945.
In expected wins above average, they had Embree 26th, with 2.299 wins, Street was 55th, 1.408
If you prefer WPA, Embree accumulated 2.26, Street 1.20.
ZIPS: Milledge: 466 HR, 485 2B, 2282 hits, 278-379-524
by rfloh on Mar 25, 2008 12:46 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
First, the front page stat is wrong
20 blown in 96 chances. There numbers are for the past 2 seasons. Street was 16/21 last season and Embree was 17/21. I guess it's a pick'em, but either way, Street needs to do his job better.
Might as well Jump! - Van Halen
by sprtsnwyn on Mar 25, 2008 12:50 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Haha....Embree?
No, he wasnt better....Cmon.
Bring back Hammer.
by OaktownPower on Mar 25, 2008 12:10 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
In the end...
its only one game. Got another one in the morning. I'm just hoping Harden will make it through the start with no injuries.
Wear it, Huston.
by Oaktownflav on Mar 25, 2008 10:57 AM PDT reply actions 0 recs
Buck should also be blamed for this...
he missed that catch off Dustin Pedroia that opened the door for Boston scoring. He also went 0-5 in the leadoff position. Not a good game for Travis either.
by Oaktownflav on Mar 25, 2008 11:01 AM PDT reply actions 0 recs
Agreed. Buck sucked.
So, bring on Bonds! Or, not... then, bring back Langerhans!! -One won lost one
by baseballgirl on Mar 25, 2008 11:09 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
0 for 5
is not going to get it done for our leadoff hitter.
I know it's only one game, but Buck needs to shake it off and avoid any Sophomore slump.
And he definitely should have had that fly ball at the track.
Aahh, Frick!... Don't tell me Bill King is going to be passed over again!
by PortlandPachyderm on Mar 25, 2008 11:29 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
To be fair...
I just saw the ball Buck missed. It was hit directly over his head, so as he's going back he's coping with finding the ball against the back drop of the dome. That can't be easy after playing day games in Arizona.
"You may glory in a team triumphant, but you fall in love with a team in defeat."--The Boys of Summer
by alox on Mar 25, 2008 1:15 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
As did Cust.
But really, in a game where several of the guys expected to be main contributors of the offense combine for an 0-9 day and you're STILL in a position to win the game, letting it slip away is a killer.
by mikev on Mar 25, 2008 11:14 AM PDT reply actions 0 recs
Just Called Directv
They claim to have fixed the problem and say that tomorrow morning's game will be fine. I'll believe it when I see it.
by mdp63 on Mar 25, 2008 11:15 AM PDT reply actions 0 recs
General thoughts:
1) Glad this game was during spring break so I could actually watch it.
2) Glad my friend with HDTV was out of town so we could steal his key and sneak into his apartment to watch the A's play (we cleaned, it's not that bad of a deal).
3) I have rarely yelled and made a scene to the degree I did when Hannahan hit what should have been the winning home run. Expletives and smack talk spoken 3 inches away from the TV screen galore.
4) I knew there was trouble as soon as Street had to pitch consecutive innings-- have we learned nothing from Macha?
5) I have rarely yelled and made a scene to the degree I did when Emil Brown totally blew it by trying to push for a triple on an obvious double. I don't want to hate on the guy too much, because at some point this season, he'll make us love him with some ridiculous play. But for now, I still struggle to see why he's hoarding a roster spot.
6) The entire game, I was thinking about how badly and how obviously ESPN-- maybe the entire nation, sans Athletics Nation-- wanted the Red Sox to win. And the whole time the A's were winning, I was so happy that they were ruining everyone's expectations. And after the loss, I became despondent over the fact that the box score, the recap, the pictures, nothing could relate to the discriminating baseball fan (who was smart enough to not stay up until 3 to watch the game, then stay awake all the way through the last out) just how well the A's played against the "Defending and Future World Champion Red Sox."
Well done Blanton, well done Hannahan, well done... woah, Crosby? That was a crazy game.
by Joey C. on Mar 25, 2008 11:16 AM PDT reply actions 0 recs
This game reminded me
a little of those playoff heartbreaks earlier in the decade (maybe due to a hyped opening day against a favored opponent in a crazy environment).
We're like the challenger who is better prepared and scrappy, get the champion on the ropes, but can't put him (them) away, lose confidence, focus...and eventually the game.
We just couldn't close the deal (note to Huston).
It was frustrating giving the game away like we did, and having everything work out like it was "supposed to" (eg. Dice-K gets off the hook, the Boston Goliaths win again, and the media gives them all the expected love).
Harden better have a good showing tomorrow to try and even this up...or is that too much to hope for?
Aahh, Frick!... Don't tell me Bill King is going to be passed over again!
by PortlandPachyderm on Mar 25, 2008 11:44 AM PDT reply actions 0 recs
Eh, I blame Geren above all else
It's the manager's job, first and foremost, to put his players in the best possible position to win. As usual, Geren did the exact opposite with a relief pitcher.
There's no justifiable reason, despite what that idiot Steve Phillips said, to pitch Street a second inning. None.
He got lucky earlier in the game with Embree, but it bit him with Street. The A's are 0-0. Bob Geren is 0-1.
http://bocropleasestopswingingatbadpitches.blogspot.com/
by thejd44 on Mar 25, 2008 11:57 AM PDT reply actions 0 recs
The A's have one more game, and don't know what they will get from Harden. He rolled the Dice
with Street. Harden is notably wilder than Blanton, so for the 1st game of the year, you are not expecting him to go as long as Joe. If I was Geren, I would have left him out there too, it is only the 1st game, and if you lose, you still have 161 more. You will see Harden, Dinardo, Casilla, and Brown tonight, and that's all the pitchers they have. We still have to remember, the starters had to get up to speed faster than any other team
by theblackpearl on Mar 25, 2008 12:06 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
That's not all the pitchers they have
They have Hernandez and Braden, too.
And you have a handful of days off (not counting the exhibition games because anybody can throw those) coming up. Now Street isn't good for tomorrow and you used him in a situation you just don't use a closer.
Of course it's only the first game and not a huge deal, but this game proved that Geren still doesn't get how to use a bullpen and it's frustrating.
http://bocropleasestopswingingatbadpitches.blogspot.com/
by thejd44 on Mar 25, 2008 1:57 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Not Much to Add except....
So happy that the season is finally here (although 3am is a bit early on a workday to be up for a game!)
We lost one today that we coulda, shoulda won. But the good news is that we 161 more left to play.
Please, please, please though don't let me have to endure those ESPN announcers again. These guys just couldn't hide there glee/love for the Sox and man they are just horrible. When did we sign "Dale" Barton anyway?
Tomorrow (today?) is a new game and let's hope for Harden and co to get us even in Tokyo.
by EastbayBen on Mar 25, 2008 12:05 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
I love the irony
We hate the fact that the A's are never on national TV, always last on BBTN, etc etc.
Then on the rare occasions when they ARE on national TV, the announcers are so biased and/or incompetent that we wish they had the normal broadcasters.
It's like some kind of cautionary Greek myth in which the protagonists are doomed by fate to never actually get what they desire.
Your 2008 Athletics: It's Nothing Personal.
by PaulThomas on Mar 25, 2008 12:19 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
sounds like a screenplay to me
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by flipgatey3 on Mar 25, 2008 2:38 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
OH. MY. GOD.
ESPN2 just skipped the bottom of the 3rd and the ENTIRE FOURTH INNING of the replay.
Un-fucking-real.
by mikev on Mar 25, 2008 12:13 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
Due to the need to cram more commercials into this segment,
we now move ahead in the action.
... yeah.
Your 2008 Athletics: It's Nothing Personal.
by PaulThomas on Mar 25, 2008 12:15 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Oh my god!!!
I know ESPN is evil, but that still surprises me.
"God doesn't pay attention to your cute little hypotheticals." -- Jeff from LL
by oblique on Mar 25, 2008 1:23 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Weren't those the Selig innings?
You should be glad you didn't have to see that.
http://bocropleasestopswingingatbadpitches.blogspot.com/
by thejd44 on Mar 25, 2008 1:59 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
I tried sleeping before the game but couldn't
after the Red Sox went ahead the 1st time I turned of my computer in disgust and put the TV on mute. I stayed awke long enough to see JH hit his bomb but then I feel asleep on the couch. My wife woke me up when the game finished and told me the A's lost in extra frames. I went to bed and read the horrible details later. depressing.
I'm not sure if I will make it for the 2nd game. might not be worth it.
A's all the way in 08 . . . oh never mind!
by micdog2001 on Mar 25, 2008 12:20 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
No, you gotta be there.
Just ask yourself: "How many more times will I get to watch Rich Harden pitch?"
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by HigherPie on Mar 25, 2008 12:28 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
I guess this is the defacto DLD...
for all of you interested, go over to the Freakonomics Blog and ask Bill James a question...
"I've got a lot of wins waiting in these white shoes." -Dan Meyer
by pam5981 on Mar 25, 2008 12:45 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
Whats Worse?
1. The call against the Warriors last night
2. The base running by Emil Brown
3. The fact that this is somehow a HOME game for the A's
Your 2008 East Bay Athletic Rivercats of the greater Fremont Area!
by asfan777 on Mar 25, 2008 12:48 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
Not #3
seeing as how losing this game is much more important to the future of the franchise than winning a random home game.
I vote for "the blocking foul on Lawrence Hill."
Your 2008 Athletics: It's Nothing Personal.
by PaulThomas on Mar 25, 2008 1:10 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
call against warriors - playoff implications
how does that ref not confer on that call? foul calls on inbounds plays at the end of games are dumb anyway.
"Not in your wildest alcoholic nightmare would you ever imagines such events unfolding!" Bill King
by Buck Turgidson on Mar 25, 2008 1:12 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
winxp

Interesting how this can't tell the whole story re Brown's double
"Not in your wildest alcoholic nightmare would you ever imagines such events unfolding!" Bill King
by Buck Turgidson on Mar 25, 2008 12:57 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
It does tell the whole story
the slope to the left of the dot is the double and the slope to the right is the out. Odds went from 11% to 28% if both runners had held, and dropped to 4% with the out.
The A's colors are green and gold.
by mikeA on Mar 25, 2008 1:07 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Got it
"Not in your wildest alcoholic nightmare would you ever imagines such events unfolding!" Bill King
by Buck Turgidson on Mar 25, 2008 1:14 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Well, why should Barton have held?
He was scoring regardless of what Brown did.
http://bocropleasestopswingingatbadpitches.blogspot.com/
by thejd44 on Mar 25, 2008 2:00 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
1. Just explaining the graph.
2. It wasn't a sure bet that he'd score there, and there's no reason to try it unless it's a sure bet.
The A's colors are green and gold.
by mikeA on Mar 25, 2008 2:04 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
I feel for you guys who missed any of the game
after hearing all the horror stories.. makes me appreciate Comcast cable that much more. Guess they aren't as bad as I thought they were.
by sf drift king on Mar 25, 2008 1:01 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
They're not.
So, bring on Bonds! Or, not... then, bring back Langerhans!! -One won lost one
by baseballgirl on Mar 25, 2008 1:05 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
everyone get off Emil Brown
this stuff happens all over baseball, but it is just magnified now because it was opening day.
Anyone who has ever played baseball knows people lose their mind every once and a while, even in the Majors. If you want to use this game as a sample, its looks like Crosby is going to hit like a fiend and Buck is gonna play horrible defense in Right.
Geez, it looks like Brown might be the only other competent hitter (along with perhaps Hannahan) past Barton in the order.
by sourstuff on Mar 25, 2008 1:09 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
Fair enough.
Emil Brown hit the crap out of the ball today, which is more than I could say for just about anyone else except Ellis.
So, bring on Bonds! Or, not... then, bring back Langerhans!! -One won lost one
by baseballgirl on Mar 25, 2008 1:50 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
That would be fine, if he were a DH
and had a pinch runner ready to go as soon as he swung the bat.
by mikev on Mar 25, 2008 2:13 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
that's what i'm saying!
the guy hit two piss-rods today. if he can swing the bat, i can let up on him a little bit.
President of the Joey Devine fan club as of 1/15/08. Accepting applications for other positions. "He has no equivalent." -Paul DePodesta on Jeremy Brown
by flipgatey3 on Mar 25, 2008 2:47 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
I dig the defense.
I think another reason it's magnified in this case is that Brown hasn't done anything (yet, obviously, in his extremely short tenure with the A's) to convince us that he's any better than some of the young guys, and we just don't have a lot to go on. As far as we're concerned, his reason for being here is to be a veteran presence to provide guidance for the young guys, to be a right handed bat and to maybe be roster filler. So his making of a "rookie mistake" in a critical (within the context of the game) situation is magnified by his role/background -- if Barton (for example) did exactly the same thing I don't think people would be nearly as harsh.
That said, I think he provided some excellent leadership in going with a high fastball in a critical (within the context of the game) situation and driving it to the opposite field. If he keeps doing that, I'm sold.
I think we're also all tired :-)
"God doesn't pay attention to your cute little hypotheticals." -- Jeff from LL
by oblique on Mar 25, 2008 1:53 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
How are Buck and Cust not competent?
In one breath you say to lay off Brown because of one horrible, awful, never-should-happen mental mistake. In the next you essentially say Cust and Buck are incompetent because they both went 0-for-opening day against some solid pitching (and, in Cust's case, shoddy umpiring).
You have two sides of your mouth, and in this case, you spoke out of both of them.
http://bocropleasestopswingingatbadpitches.blogspot.com/
by thejd44 on Mar 25, 2008 2:02 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
please read carefully
before you just go and lay into me dude.
I said "past Barton in the order." Buck doesnt qualify.
As for Cust, he was horrible at the plate today. And I am of the opinion that his past season will be his best. So you can go ahead and rip me for that if you want, but you obviously sped through my post, so what's up with the hostility?
by sourstuff on Mar 25, 2008 2:14 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Um
That was mega-unclear.
I also interpreted you as meaning that you thought that only those three players were competent.
Your 2008 Athletics: It's Nothing Personal.
by PaulThomas on Mar 25, 2008 2:18 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
well then my bad
but it appears a couple people understood what I meant. I do think I would have said "outside of Barton in the order" but whatever.
But again, what's up with the hyperbole "mega-unclear." You could've easily just said, "it also didnt make sense to me," which would've been much more kind.
by sourstuff on Mar 25, 2008 2:26 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
you're still wrong
because we know what to expect from cust. he'll rip off hot streaks, and he'll rip off cold streaks. look at the stats at the end of the season.
although, i 100% agree about brown being a hitter. i think he will be fine.
President of the Joey Devine fan club as of 1/15/08. Accepting applications for other positions. "He has no equivalent." -Paul DePodesta on Jeremy Brown
by flipgatey3 on Mar 25, 2008 2:49 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
I wasn't trying to be kind
or cruel, for that matter. I was trying to convey my thoughts, which were, basically, that that post was mega-unclear. When multiple people read it and come to totally erroneous conclusions about what you meant, I'd classify it as mega-unclear. I've certainly had a few of those posts in my time.
It's a bit pithy to say "don't be so sensitive," but, etc etc, don't be so sensitive. It's just a post.
Your 2008 Athletics: It's Nothing Personal.
by PaulThomas on Mar 25, 2008 6:26 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
My two cents:
I thought Street's stuff was good, he just made the two costly mistakes. Even thought the pitch to Moss was decent, it was a mistake as Kurt was set up outside. Papelbon's stuff was straight and totally hittable. Even though Huston cost us the game I have faith that he can recover his focus and command and learn from his mistake. I'd rather have his problem than Papelbon's on any given day.
ESPN is pathetic. Between Thorne drooling over Varitek and being unprepared regarding the A's roster and Phillips pontification about how if he was the manager how he would do things this way and that. Didn't the Mets fire that guy after they sucked for 5 years with on of the highest payrolls in the game? And he and Selig are gonna hang out at 2 am? Gawwwdd. Justt shutttt uppppp!
"Not in your wildest alcoholic nightmare would you ever imagines such events unfolding!" Bill King
by Buck Turgidson on Mar 25, 2008 1:09 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
K. Escobar Chavez'd
The A's colors are green and gold.
by mikeA on Mar 25, 2008 1:28 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
Link:
Shut down, and probably won't be back till June at the earliest.
"If you could fart into a kind of microprocessing funnel, and the funnel poured the fart into a computer, which converted the fart into words, this is what it would look like." - Ken Tremendous, FJM
by HigherPie on Mar 25, 2008 1:49 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Sorry, you had a link.
Hey clockwerks, any chance we can get the links to stand out a bit more?
"If you could fart into a kind of microprocessing funnel, and the funnel poured the fart into a computer, which converted the fart into words, this is what it would look like." - Ken Tremendous, FJM
by HigherPie on Mar 25, 2008 1:51 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Argghh - damnit
I got up this morning just after six, just in time to watch the bottom of the ninth (and hear that Street blew the save), then take a shower, then watch the bottom of the tenth, just in time to watch Brown shove his brain securely up his sphincty. Not a good way to start off the day. Oh, well, I guess we have another 161 of these to go. Apparently, LL had a game thread as well (good for them). I was going to post some like this, but now I don't have to. Also, it appears that LL will get upgraded tomorrow, which should be interesting to say the least.
"Evidently, a large number of people said, 'We really need more vermin at the ballpark, Artie.'" - Nick (AN), 10/7/07
by doctorK on Mar 25, 2008 1:47 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
Slusser's game story is up
Featuring the tidbit:
Andrew Brown was unavailable in the A's bullpen Tuesday night because of abdominal discomfort. There was some concern the reliever might have appendicitis
NOOOOOOOO
because he'd been experiencing pain for two days, but he did not have a fever or any other symptoms and he was taken for a CT scan Tuesday afternoon and cleared to return to the ballpark. He played catch before the game, but felt tenderness when he threw, so he was held out of action.
The candy and the baseball all night long: )
by Englishmajor on Mar 25, 2008 2:04 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
Appendicitis?
I call "hernia."
Your 2008 Athletics: It's Nothing Personal.
by PaulThomas on Mar 25, 2008 2:05 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
I'll see your hernia and raise you a kidney stone.
"God doesn't pay attention to your cute little hypotheticals." -- Jeff from LL
by oblique on Mar 25, 2008 2:09 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
I'll raise you bad sushi.
"If you could fart into a kind of microprocessing funnel, and the funnel poured the fart into a computer, which converted the fart into words, this is what it would look like." - Ken Tremendous, FJM
by HigherPie on Mar 25, 2008 2:12 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
I'm feeling stupidly daring today.
I'll raise you pregnancy.
"There is an HR in Hanrahan." ~ mikeA
by Poppy on Mar 25, 2008 5:19 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
I'm all in:
Lemmiwinks.
"If you could fart into a kind of microprocessing funnel, and the funnel poured the fart into a computer, which converted the fart into words, this is what it would look like." - Ken Tremendous, FJM
by HigherPie on Mar 25, 2008 5:31 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Japanese gambling overlords
sending bad sushi to our boys?
This isnt Canada you know.
Winner of the 2008 "find grover a new sig" contest.
by 5Aces on Mar 25, 2008 10:58 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Emil Brown
I wouldn't be so harsh on the guy. He just nearly missed two homeruns, and was certainly robbed of having two doubles and a walk last night. It was a stupid running play, but at least he was going for a meaningful base.
by ChadGod on Mar 25, 2008 2:09 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
we are already discussing this
a couple posts above.
by sourstuff on Mar 25, 2008 2:16 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
I wouldn't be so harsh on ChadGod
He had one bad post.
< /totally kidding >
"God doesn't pay attention to your cute little hypotheticals." -- Jeff from LL
by oblique on Mar 25, 2008 2:17 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Oh man..just saw Emil's play...
That was horrid. I see what he was thinking when the ball was thrown, but wow, just can't happen in that spot.
Gotta say, nice AB by Hannahan vs the Paps though.
Bring back Hammer.
by OaktownPower on Mar 25, 2008 2:42 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
Do you guys see this as a very streaky team?
I know all hitters are streaky but Cust and Barton seem to have periods where very are red hot or ice cold. I know this is going to be a long year for us A's fans but I wouldnt mind seeing some periods during the season where we play well against some of the better teams in MLB.
by asfaninpismobeach on Mar 25, 2008 2:56 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
Oh screw you, Direct TV
Here's what they've got on their website right now:
In the case of the Red Sox game, any customers who have NESN or ESPN2 in HD were able to see the entire game. For customers who watch NESN in Standard Definition (SD), we were able to bring the channel back at the top of the seventh inning. For customers who watch ESPN2 in SD the channel came back on later, after the game was over. We deeply apologize, particularly to Red Sox fans, for any inconvenience this may have caused.
emphasis mine
I don't even know how to comment on this it is such BS. I'm on hold right now.
"Don't be an ass!" --Bill King
by batgirl on Mar 25, 2008 3:21 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
I would imagine 80% of the complaints
were form Red Sox fans.....But I will certainly add this to my complaints to them.
Bring back Hammer.
by OaktownPower on Mar 25, 2008 3:28 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
My jaw is hanging open. I can't believe they put that on there.
by drmmerchk on Mar 25, 2008 3:54 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Who would have guessed...
East Coast Bias..... from a satellite company..... oh the irony.
Your 2008 East Bay Athletic Rivercats of the greater Fremont Area!
by asfan777 on Mar 25, 2008 4:01 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Link or screenshot?
Is it possible for you to provide either, so I can see it with my own eyes?
"If you could fart into a kind of microprocessing funnel, and the funnel poured the fart into a computer, which converted the fart into words, this is what it would look like." - Ken Tremendous, FJM
by HigherPie on Mar 25, 2008 4:32 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Manny named MVP
MVP of one game?
Ramirez was presented with an oversized check for 1,000,000 yen (about $10,000) for being MVP of the game and smiled as he held it up on a stage placed near the mound. He also gets a color laser printer.
A color laser printer? Did he also get a year's supply of Metamucil and a subscription to Newsweek?
The candy and the baseball all night long: )
by Englishmajor on Mar 25, 2008 3:29 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
Oh my god.
That, combined with batgirl's post about what's on DirecTV's site, makes me want even more for our boys to just beat the living hell out of the Red Sox for the next three games. Not just win. Dominate. Humiliate. Send them into a shame spiral, a vicious circle of losses and hopelessness. Destroy their very will to live.
(I only napped for two hours before my neighbor woke me up by making top-of-her-lungs "WOOOOO! WOOOOO!" sound effects for whatever the f%#! she was reading to her baby in the room right next to my head. I am beyond cranky.)
"There is an HR in Hanrahan." ~ mikeA
by Poppy on Mar 25, 2008 5:27 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
(And by the way, those neighbors moved here from Boston last year.)
"There is an HR in Hanrahan." ~ mikeA
by Poppy on Mar 25, 2008 5:27 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
"WOOOOOOO!!! WOOOOOO!!"
It was the Bible.
"I have a strange urge to make copies." JediLeroy
by Jennifer on Mar 25, 2008 5:59 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
I'm going to knock on the door,
and say, "Bitch, put the baby in daycare and get a job. I'm trying to get some rest and enjoy my unemployment."
"There is an HR in Hanrahan." ~ mikeA
by Poppy on Mar 25, 2008 6:13 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Perhaps she was singing along to "sympathy for the Devil"
on the new "Baby Stones" DVD.
Winner of the 2008 "find grover a new sig" contest.
by 5Aces on Mar 25, 2008 11:05 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
I agree with that
Single game MVPs are beyond stupid in baseball. Particularly the All-Star Game MVP, where the players only play like half the game to begin with.
It's like "Wow, you went 1 for 2 with an RBI double! You are clearly awesome and deserving of this fine trophy."
Side note: anyone want to lay odds that the MVP would have gone to a Sock even if they had lost the game? I figure it had to be at least 25%.
Your 2008 Athletics: It's Nothing Personal.
by PaulThomas on Mar 25, 2008 6:22 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Here's a hummer
Chiba Lotte lost simultaneously in the fighter plane of the Japanese ham.
by JediLeroy on Mar 25, 2008 8:29 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
I just found out I was the Bay Alarm contestant from todays Game!!!
no homerun though....
Your 2008 East Bay Athletic Rivercats of the greater Fremont Area!
by asfan777 on Mar 25, 2008 3:41 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
I'm still mad at Huston
but my anger at Brown is fading a bit...he hit the ball hard twice, and that's more than a lot of A's did.
So, bring on Bonds! Or, not... then, bring back Langerhans!! -One won lost one

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