Notes From Spring Training
Once again, here is your friendly neighborhood plug for the year: Go to Spring Training!
Seriously, it is fun. It’s a look at players from a much closer perspective than across the field of a major league baseball park. It’s a more intimate setting; more about the team aspect and being up close with the players than the games themselves, but after a winter away, it’s hard not to love any baseball game in the spring.
Once in a while, if you get lucky (or happen to accidentally sneak into part of a charity event; not that I know anyone who might have done that *ahem*), you actually will get to spend time with some players off the field. Granted, they will all be glued to a video game for the all-important challenge, but there is something about seeing your favorite players in street clothes that makes you feel just a bit closer to the team.
That night, we actually saw quite a few players, notably Huston Street, Todd Helton, Matt Cain, Hank Blalock, Paul Konerko, and Milton Bradley (yes, it’s true).
We fled the event when we became upstaged by the *real* donors (who were bound to figure out we didn’t quite belong at a video game challenge/fashion show in our A’s jerseys), and had dinner at a restaurant called Blue Wasabi. Interestingly enough, their gimmick was, in fact, dark blue wasabi. I’ve now seen it all.
Some game notes:
- Dana Eveland is a lot smaller than I thought he’d be on the mound. He’s politely known as the ‘big’ pitcher, but quite honestly, I didn’t see it. However, he pitched like I never expected, and I would label him as the spring surprise, for sure.
- And speaking of people looking smaller in person, Dan Johnson looked like he lost considerable weight over the off-season. He was much, much smaller than I remember. Apparently, he will also only sign autographs for children who know his first and last name. ‘Dan’ was ignored several times, but ‘Dan Johnson’ was rewarded. And during the game? DJ looked better at the plate than I can ever remember.
- Just so you don’t question my eyesight, I will say that Jack Cust looked every pound of his spring weigh-in.
- For that matter, Prince Fielder is absolutely larger than life in person. He is an amazing player to watch, even as an opponent.
- It never stops being scary; seeing someone hit in the head. Cust went down like a rock, and I think my heart stopped beating for a several moments.
- Brad Ziegler has a great delivery. I miss the submariners, and I really, genuinely hope he gets his big-league shot with the A’s.
- Dan Meyer, on the other hand, basically couldn’t look worse. He was lit up in the only outing I saw, and it wasn’t an accident; he is an opposing batter’s dream batting-practice pitcher. I gather he hasn’t been much better in his other spring outings, and you have to start to wonder about his future.
- The Southwest Airline peanut toss on the dugouts during the third inning is MUCH more difficult than it looks.
- I realize that I hold my breath every single time James Richard Harden takes the mound. I refused to get sucked into the ‘Look at me, I’m Pitching!’ sensationalism, but it’s very hard. I treat him as a baseball mirage, and I’m not quite sure what it will take for me to feel any differently.
- Rob Bowen has some pop, to say the least.
- Whiner or not; small sample size or not, Todd Linden hit the crap out of the ball every game I saw him in.
- The Giants are as bad as they say. Really.
- Large tidal waves of children running for autographs on the bleachers are dangerous.
- It is fun (and a little bittersweet!) when a fellow ANer sneaks into the broadcast booth and has Robert Buan say hi to you over the radio the day after you go back to work after a wonderful weekend away.
Any stories other fellow Spring Training attendees would like to share? And just putting the feelers out there (no plans as of yet), does anyone have an interest in an AN weekend trip to Spring Training next year?
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Getting what you want...
Brand new to AN here! Been going to spring training for 4 years and I learned yesterday that if you want a certain players autograph, buy the ballboy cheese fries (I was at the Texas game) and he'll get it for you!
Welcome to AN!
But I think the cheese fry technique is much more likely to work for you than it is for me...
"God doesn't pay attention to your cute little hypotheticals." -- Jeff from LL
Or (probably) me.
"If I have to be remembered because of *statistics*, then I did something wrong along the way." ~ Brett Favre
Welcome
Always good to have new people and new opinions.
"Put some ice on it. After that, there's nothing a few beers won't take care of. " -Pink
by OrlandoAsFan on Mar 19, 2008 8:31 AM PDT up reply actions
I'd help volunteer to get a group together...
But I fear a beatdown of mass proportions from being pelted with calculators while i'm actually......................trying to watch and enjoy a baseball game that cannot be predicted!
Red Sox threaten boycott of Japan...
...now, really.
http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20080319/ap_on_sp_ba_ne/bba_red_sox_boycott
What would happen if they refused to get on the plane?
2-0
Then we'll start the season at 2 and 0. But, you know the Boston brass will buck up for those staffers.
You've got to ask yourself a question: Do I feel lucky? Well, do ya, punk?- Dirty Harry
That would not be a bad thing...how fun! We could play each other in Japan, and start the season on a winning streak!
So, bring on Bonds! Or, not... then, bring back Langerhans!! -One won lost one
by baseballgirl on Mar 19, 2008 9:49 AM PDT up reply actions
I agree, Linden looked good
Granted, it was against his former team, but I thought he'd make the roster.
Also, got to see Nolan Ryan up close. He over heard the guess services desk at our resort book a dinner for him. So we camped out infront of the restaurant and he walked right by.
Can't wait for my next Spring Training trip!
by El Cerrito Steve on Mar 19, 2008 8:53 AM PDT reply actions
I hear the name Nolan Ryan
and I think of the story of his pitching at fantasy camps. Even there, if someone tries to bunt on him, just to say,"I made contact against Nolan Ryan!" why, he'll hit them with a pitch. A fastball. In the ribs!
And, they say, he hasn't lost much speed. Yikes!
"I never predict anything, and I never will." Paul Gascoigne, English footballer
by One won lost won on Mar 19, 2008 10:30 AM PDT up reply actions
Well.....either way,
you can say you made contact with a Nolan Ryan fastball....though you might have to say it from the ER.
"You may glory in a team triumphant, but you fall in love with a team in defeat."--The Boys of Summer
bbg, a question about Meyer...
What makes you say he looked terrible, other than the results? Was he not throwing hard? Looked unsure of himself out there?
Knowing nothing except what I see in his pitching lines, his performance doesn't look so different from what it was at AAA last year (more rarely with the A's): solid strikeout numbers, but too many hits and too many walks.
The way I've wanted to interpret those patterns (perhaps delusionally) is as follows: good stuff (ability to miss bats), but lousy command causing him to miss both outside the strike zone (walks) and inside it (hits).
I'm probably the last person outside Meyer's family who's held out hope that he might yet be something close to what he was expected to be. If he's got his arm strength and stuff back (the strikeouts and the reports last year that he was throwing in the low 90's) he could be just one (big) step from contributing, that step being the recovery of his command. He was always supposed to be a "polished" pitcher, but it's impossible to look polished if you can't make the ball go where you want it to go.
Anyway, go ahead and squash my hopes. I'll probably feel better once I let those hopes go and move on...
Meyer...
...let's see. I'm surprised that any reports came back of him throwing in the low 90's. I would have pegged his fastball for 84-86, with ZERO movement; basically the absolutely perfect hittable pitch. Guys were just teeing off on him, and although he seemed frustrated enough, he really didn't have anything in his arsenal to stop it. His second inning was much better than his first, but he just never looked 'major league ready' out there.
Just my opinion, of course, but it was the ugliest inning I saw the whole time I was out there.
So, bring on Bonds! Or, not... then, bring back Langerhans!! -One won lost one
by baseballgirl on Mar 19, 2008 9:52 AM PDT up reply actions 1 recs
Thanks
I still wonder what would have happened had Meyer sought treatment as soon as he felt something go wrong in his shoulder, instead of being an idiot and trying to pitch through it to make the team. The self-destruction of a career is an awfully high price to pay for one dumb youthful misjudgment. But who knows, maybe the first time he felt something go pop, it was already too late.
I saw that game also....In his second inning that day..
Was helped out by a lucky caght stealing call on a guy who was safe. It could have been worse. He was set for 2 innings and they had to get someone up in the pen in the second inning because of his struggles. I was thoroughly unimpressed....Fans were even heckling him by the end.....was bad.
Bring back Hammer.
by OaktownPower on Mar 19, 2008 11:20 AM PDT up reply actions
The Dan Meyer Front...
has grown extremely quiet these days. It sounds like he's been leapfrogged by Dana Eveland, Greg Smith, Gio Gonzalez, Henry Rodriguez, Brett Anderson and F.DLS... could it be that we no longer need Dan Meyer's services as an MLB starter, and now it's time to move him to the bullpen full-time? I think that's the direction it will go this season in Sacramento.
As for Meyer's "Stuff"... I wonder how many of those K's were of the backwards variety. From what I've seen (2 MLB Starts+), he nibbles way to much. He lacks fastball confidence (you don't need 90+ MPH to get people out), and lacks offspeed command. Maybe if he concentrates on fastball location/command and a slider/curve (i.e. 2 pitches), he can get MLB hitters out in the 6/7/8 innings.
by Colorado Fan on Mar 19, 2008 9:57 AM PDT up reply actions
Forgot to mention others who have passed Meyer
... Simmons, Cahill, and Andrew Bailey.
by Colorado Fan on Mar 19, 2008 10:15 AM PDT up reply actions
This is why I don't like polls
My answer would not fit any of the given categories, so I could not enter any answer. No matter what I "dotted", it would be untrue.
I cannot go to "ST" because I don't have the money, or can afford the time. If someone paid my plane fare and hotel room and car rental, heck yeah, I'd go!!!... with a group, by myself, or even crawling on my belly pushing a peanut every inch of the way. But, I just cannot come up with the necessary cash. And if I "charged it", for later payment? Well, I'm already resorting to that for gasoline. I'd feel terrible doing it for something so 101% "optional" as going down to Arizona to watch $350k (minimum) salaried people do what they enjoy doing.
"I never predict anything, and I never will." Paul Gascoigne, English footballer
by One won lost won on Mar 19, 2008 10:24 AM PDT reply actions
I attended Spring Training...
A's looked like an exciting team overall with a few notes:
1. D-Rock Rocks. Daric is going to be exciting
2. Crosby is healthy (still his swing is too long but much improved)
3. No sign of Chavez besides his huge contract
4. A's are MUCH MUCH better than the Giants...... no so much the Angels
Your 2008 East Bay Athletic Rivercats of the greater Fremont Area!
Chavez sighting
Saw him Monday... He was taking BP and some infield. He looked a little heavier, but the glove work was still the same old Chavy.
by SwisherGirl33 on Mar 19, 2008 7:02 PM PDT up reply actions
Spring Training is the best vacation
I second the opinion. Spring training is the best inexpensive vacation for anyone with even a passing interest in baseball. Spouses who may be not as excited about baseball still enjoy the trip.
There are a lot of option for places to eat and stay for any budget. Also, lots of non baseball things to do. I enjoy going to the other less crowded parks. All are great places to have fun and watch baseball.
I have been going with different friends every year since 1986. Everyone seems to agree that it is a great trip. It has changed a lot but you never know when you are looking at a future Tejada, Canseco, McGwire, Hudson, Mulder, Zito, Giambi, Ethier, Street, Swisher, Buck etc. I think that just makes it so much more exciting to watch.
It looks to me that the A's now have more than a few candidates that may make that list in future years.
Thomas Walker
That charity event? You mean the $150 event?
Can you imagine AN crashing that event next year? Whoops, I mean, wouldn't it be great for AN to support the charity video game challenge? At least we would make sure it was advertised!
I agree with you, BBG, Springtraining is really fun. Fun to see our team, fun to be at baseball games, and much fun to see old friends and make new ones.
I really enjoyed seeing the new guys trying to make the team. It is fun to watch guys "work on" things..especially when they get it right.
It was fun to head down to Tucson and see our game vs the White Sox and sad/fun to see Swisher on the field, already a fan favorite with his cocky friendly self. I'll miss him.
Next year will be more fun, what with the Dodgers and the Indians and maybe the WhiteSox up in Phoenix.
If we don't do a group trip, we might try AN Day at Phoenix Muni.
13 and counting, days till our home opener. See you at the ballpark!
Hope to see Blez and BBG and the SoCal AN folks at the Coliseum real soon.
Faith and perspective...2008 Oakland A's.
Dan Meyer
I saw him pitch in Spring Training on the 4th he did good, he only got to pitch 2 innings he did better in the second half, he just looked nervous.(imagine being on that mound your first game for Spring Training vying for that 5th rotation spot? A little nerve racking if you ask me) I think he has a lot of potential but he has just had a lot of set backs like getting hurt. I have never been to a Rivercats game but from what I heard about him being at the Rivercats last year is he was really good and had a good ERA. However, I have been told pitching in the minors is a lot different than pitching in the majors. (rather that's true or not I don't know) I think Dan will be back with the A's again this season if they didn't think he potential they wouldn't have concidered him for 5th rotation spot. Once he fixes the kinks he'll be fine.
I'm tired of missing spring training
so next year is a must for me. BBG, do you usually fly or drive? Maybe we can get a caravan of So Cal ANers going to Phoenix next year? That would be fun, wouldn't it?
by Tyler Bleszinski on Mar 20, 2008 10:26 AM PDT reply actions
I hear ya
I went in 2004 (my first time) and still have yet to make it back.
Trying to do Yankee Stadium before it shuts down this year, then I'm definitey doing Spring Training again. If you can accept a Nor Cal guy there ;)
I'm here to talk about the past.

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