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Open Thread: Spring Training Game 15 - A's vs. White Sox

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The A's return to action after a day off with a 1:05 p.m. date against the White Sox.  Nick Swisher will bat fifth and play CF for the Sox in his debut against his former team.

The A's send Rich Harden to the mound and host Chicago counters with Jose Contreras. Today's lineups are posted below if you click the "read more" link.

*If the season started tomorrow, I think you'd see Kiko Calero placed on the 60-day DL, Mike Sweeney added to the 40-man (and active) roster...and a disappointed Gio Gonzalez, Greg Smith, Kirk Saarloos, Brooks Conrad, and Todd Linden.  Call it "40-man roster politics". 

All those guys warrant a chance, and it would be nice to reward them.  But not at the cost of unnecessarily exposing one of our current 40-man roster guys to waivers.  All five of them will eventually get their chance if they are still performing well in AAA when someone else eventually goes on the 60-day DL later this year.

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Today's Lineups:

A's

Buck RF

Ellis 2b

Barton 1b

Crosby SS

Johnson DH

Sweeney LF

Suzuki C

Hannahan 3b

Denorfia CF

White Sox

Ramirez 2b

Cabrera SS

Thome DH

Konerko 1b

Swisher CF

Dye RF

Fields 3b

Quentin LF

Hall C

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So is Denorfia

Going to hit at the bottom of the order rather than the top? Earlier this offseason I thought he would hit leadoff. What do you guys think?

RIVER CATS: AAA CHAMPS!

by niallmack on Mar 14, 2008 12:54 PM PDT reply actions   0 recs

I don't think he'll be moved up

until he shows that he's over the rust.

by Tyler Bleszinski on Mar 14, 2008 12:57 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

we need to start a secret club for all the AN vegans

A's v Giants "is kind of like the difference between going to see the Ramones and going to see the Bee Gees. A's fans will go see the Ramones." -BB 07/27/05

by xbhaskarx on Mar 14, 2008 1:29 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Why keep it secret?

In my experience, absolutely everyone loves vegans.

by HigherPie on Mar 14, 2008 1:30 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Absolutely!

Next we'll all contribute monetary donations to the Joe Morgan School of Baseball Analysis.

by thejd44 on Mar 14, 2008 1:32 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

no it must be secret

A's v Giants "is kind of like the difference between going to see the Ramones and going to see the Bee Gees. A's fans will go see the Ramones." -BB 07/27/05

by xbhaskarx on Mar 14, 2008 1:36 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Okay

Meet you at Herbivore at 8 to discuss it. Wear black. Look no one in the eye.

by HigherPie on Mar 14, 2008 1:37 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

except for Roger Clemens

he doesn't even know what you are.

"Don't be an ass!" --Bill King

by batgirl on Mar 14, 2008 1:46 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

We can all snicker as we enjoy

our ice cold gaspacho.

The A's colors are green and gold.

by mikeA on Mar 14, 2008 1:34 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

gaspacho?

Is that the vegan version of nacho runs?

Or just a precursor thereunto?

I wasn't thinking about anything. I'll have to try to do that more often. @('.')@

by monkeyball on Mar 14, 2008 1:47 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Are you calling me a shyster?

That is libelous, my friend.

The A's colors are green and gold.

by mikeA on Mar 14, 2008 1:48 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

if you prick a vegan, does he bleed?

I wasn't thinking about anything. I'll have to try to do that more often. @('.')@

by monkeyball on Mar 14, 2008 1:51 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

You better believe I am collecting if I win

that Harden bet.

The A's colors are green and gold.

by mikeA on Mar 14, 2008 1:53 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

if I recall the terms of the deal ...

... if I lose, I need to give you a pound of Lance Niekro's flesh, right?

I wasn't thinking about anything. I'll have to try to do that more often. @('.')@

by monkeyball on Mar 14, 2008 1:55 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

or, you could gaspacho as you enjoy your ice-cold Snickers

I wasn't thinking about anything. I'll have to try to do that more often. @('.')@

by monkeyball on Mar 14, 2008 1:49 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

I'm glad the image didn't work.

Fried snickers look like shit.

by HigherPie on Mar 14, 2008 1:50 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

weird. working for me.

I wasn't thinking about anything. I'll have to try to do that more often. @('.')@

by monkeyball on Mar 14, 2008 1:52 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

I don't know what you've been eating ...

... but mine rarely looks like this:

I wasn't thinking about anything. I'll have to try to do that more often. @('.')@

by monkeyball on Mar 14, 2008 1:54 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

OMG

Dude, that doesn't look appetizing at all. [gags]

by surfinsushi on Mar 14, 2008 4:18 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

I am a vegan also

I am a vegan also. I have been striving for level 5 status for years........

Seriously, I am a vegan.

And I tried to reply to this post hours ago at work but 3.0 crashed my work computer.

Rickey Henderson: 35, 24, hall of fame!

by Athletics fan and runner on Mar 14, 2008 8:34 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Making us believers

I know many of us have had great doubts about Crosby and Harden. It's nice to see them fairing well so far in Spring. Keep cutting off lettuce heads and I'll start burning incense to ward off all of the evil spirits......

The greenmachine

by greenmachine on Mar 14, 2008 1:07 PM PDT reply actions   0 recs

It was probably supposed to be a grounder to the 2B

But he accidentally positioned it in the hole so it slipped into the outfield.

by thejd44 on Mar 14, 2008 1:23 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

classic

President of the Joey Devine fan club as of 1/15/08. Accepting applications for other positions. "He has no equivalent." -Paul DePodesta on Jeremy Brown

by flipgatey3 on Mar 14, 2008 1:30 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

I would guess not

But only because it sounds like he's worse than Soriano defensively. He can hit the bejesus out of the ball, but no glove = AAA for now.

I think Juan Uribe might open the roster as the 2B.

by thejd44 on Mar 14, 2008 1:24 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Open the season on the roster

Apparently, I don't like typing all the words in my sentences.

by thejd44 on Mar 14, 2008 1:25 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

is this game on the radio

and if so, what stations?

(i asked a few weeks ago, but since you can't search comments on new AN, i have to ask again)

A's v Giants "is kind of like the difference between going to see the Ramones and going to see the Bee Gees. A's fans will go see the Ramones." -BB 07/27/05

by xbhaskarx on Mar 14, 2008 1:31 PM PDT reply actions   0 recs

thanks

so this game isn't on 106.9?
damn, i need to drive to the bay area in a few minutes.

A's v Giants "is kind of like the difference between going to see the Ramones and going to see the Bee Gees. A's fans will go see the Ramones." -BB 07/27/05

by xbhaskarx on Mar 14, 2008 1:37 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

search

is "top of the list", we'll see if it turns out well....

The A's colors are green and gold.

by mikeA on Mar 14, 2008 1:35 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

we're working mostly off feedback from AN

and evern after we roll out the next version of search, we'll be able to tweak more based on how well y'all like it. the benefit of the new platform is that we can quickly change the functionality.

I'm one of the guys that built the new SB Nation

by Trei Brundrett on Mar 14, 2008 2:15 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

clockwerks

quick question regarding the login at the top:

is there any way to automatically focus the cursor on the username field once I click "Login'"? I don't mind the two separated by all the screen real estate, but moving all the way over to activate the field is slightly tedious.

by rebus on Mar 14, 2008 2:41 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

good suggestions

I'll see what we can do

I'm one of the guys that built the new SB Nation

by Trei Brundrett on Mar 15, 2008 6:14 AM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Buck slips

and I assume he tore every ligament in his body. Buan says he's fine, but I'm sure he'll be day-to-day in the next hour.

by thejd44 on Mar 14, 2008 1:33 PM PDT reply actions   0 recs

Hi all. Is today over yet? Is it the weekend? Can I SLEEP!?

So, bring on Bonds! Or, not... then, bring back Langerhans!! -One won lost one

by baseballgirl on Mar 14, 2008 1:35 PM PDT reply actions   0 recs

Seriously

How are you getting the info so fast? My audio is at least 10 seconds behind you.

by HigherPie on Mar 14, 2008 1:42 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Intrentestingly

Barton was running on the 3-2 pitch with none out.

by HigherPie on Mar 14, 2008 1:48 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

well, with Crosby's bat control,

you just know that the ball will be put in play.

No, I'm not drunk. I'm just getting really restless in the office and it's causing me to type stupid things.

by colin on Mar 14, 2008 1:50 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Buan said

Dan Haren came by to visit with his former A's teammates.

Nature's first green is gold...

by prana160 on Mar 14, 2008 1:48 PM PDT reply actions   0 recs

has harden

given up on groundouts?

by sourstuff on Mar 14, 2008 1:59 PM PDT reply actions   0 recs

Well so far...

he's given up on runs and hits for that matter, so I guess I'll take it.

by WhiteElephants on Mar 14, 2008 2:02 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

They showed this play on highlights here in Chicago

The ball went to the cutoff man who was lined up for a throw to third. Ellis took second on a hustle play, barely got in under the tag. Definitely not Buck's fault because of injury or anything else. If anything whoever was playing short for the Sox wasn't in the right position. He should've been over towards second for that cutoff to hold Ellis to a single.

by thejd44 on Mar 15, 2008 12:56 AM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

WOW!! Barton homer!!!!

So, bring on Bonds! Or, not... then, bring back Langerhans!! -One won lost one

by baseballgirl on Mar 14, 2008 2:10 PM PDT reply actions   0 recs

Why cant we?

When will then be now? Soon.

by Syphon on Mar 14, 2008 2:10 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Regression to the mean?

I dunno what that means, but I have a small sample size.

by HigherPie on Mar 14, 2008 2:11 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

I hate the Mean

When will then be now? Soon.

by Syphon on Mar 14, 2008 2:13 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

if we do, we'd better contact our physician

I wasn't thinking about anything. I'll have to try to do that more often. @('.')@

by monkeyball on Mar 14, 2008 2:12 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Swish pops up to Barton

end of 4 5-0 A's and Harden has a no-hitter, and since it is only spring training, I don't care

by theblackpearl on Mar 14, 2008 2:17 PM PDT reply actions   0 recs

How many pitches has Harden

thrown? Any idea on how far the A's plan on letting him go?

"You may glory in a team triumphant, but you fall in love with a team in defeat."--The Boys of Summer

by alox on Mar 14, 2008 2:18 PM PDT reply actions   0 recs

Not many.

Even his 2 walks were 4 pitch walks.

by HigherPie on Mar 14, 2008 2:20 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

When the game goes to the bottom of the 5th

Gameday will show us how many pitches Harden has thrown

by HigherPie on Mar 14, 2008 2:22 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

40

The A's colors are green and gold.

by mikeA on Mar 14, 2008 2:24 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Why is DJ still getting AB?

Can we just rid ourselves of him already?

When will then be now? Soon.

by Syphon on Mar 14, 2008 2:19 PM PDT reply actions   0 recs

Someone on the radio is talking about how upset

A's fans were with the Swisher trade, but boy oh boy what the Chisox gave up for him. Maybe it will be good for the A's but it still sucks.

by kapers on Mar 14, 2008 2:22 PM PDT reply actions   0 recs

Beane had to make that deal...

Too good for us.

When will then be now? Soon.

by Syphon on Mar 14, 2008 2:25 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

quick

Let's get Gio in to pitch to Swish his next time up. Then we can settle this whole thing once and for all. With a nice 1AB sample size.

by colin on Mar 14, 2008 2:25 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Has anyone seen Sweeney play in person?

I hear he has 5pm power. Looks good in batting practice but doesnt translate to game time.

by asfaninpismobeach on Mar 14, 2008 2:25 PM PDT reply actions   0 recs

whoa

Does anyone else see Denorfia's gameday mugshot? Sweet 'stache, man!

by colin on Mar 14, 2008 2:27 PM PDT reply actions   0 recs

Just a guess....

but that's about the time the players take batting practice before a a 7pm start isn't it?

"You may glory in a team triumphant, but you fall in love with a team in defeat."--The Boys of Summer

by alox on Mar 14, 2008 2:29 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Hah....

Put him on a bus to Sacramento!

"You may glory in a team triumphant, but you fall in love with a team in defeat."--The Boys of Summer

by alox on Mar 14, 2008 2:32 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

That Karma -- she's a bitch!

The meaning of life is not so much 'found,' as it is 'made.' --Opus

by The Dogfather on Mar 14, 2008 2:32 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

harden's pitch count

40 pitches for 4 innings.

by colin on Mar 14, 2008 2:32 PM PDT reply actions   0 recs

What a great day this is! Harden pitching *well* and Barton hitting homers? Does it get any better?

So, bring on Bonds! Or, not... then, bring back Langerhans!! -One won lost one

by baseballgirl on Mar 14, 2008 2:34 PM PDT reply actions   0 recs

you can sign me up for 8 months of that

by TheGreenGoldCrush on Mar 14, 2008 2:37 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Come on Rich

Lets get that first ground ball of the day

by HigherPie on Mar 14, 2008 2:37 PM PDT reply actions   0 recs

Cabrera flies out to Denorfia

Great outing by Rich 5 IP 4BB 5 K's

by theblackpearl on Mar 14, 2008 2:41 PM PDT reply actions   0 recs

too many walks..

When will then be now? Soon.

by Syphon on Mar 14, 2008 2:43 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Buan said earlier

that Harden appeared to be working on off-speed pitches today, FYIW

by HigherPie on Mar 14, 2008 2:45 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

I feel dirty

Just made a post on McC.

"Evidently, a large number of people said, 'We really need more vermin at the ballpark, Artie.'" - Nick, 10/7/07

by doctorK on Mar 14, 2008 2:42 PM PDT reply actions   0 recs

Did it look like a fried Snickers?

The meaning of life is not so much 'found,' as it is 'made.' --Opus

by The Dogfather on Mar 14, 2008 2:43 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

That awful black and orange motif

It makes me feel like in stuck in A&W hell.

"Evidently, a large number of people said, 'We really need more vermin at the ballpark, Artie.'" - Nick, 10/7/07

by doctorK on Mar 14, 2008 2:46 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Or even like I'm stuck ...

"Evidently, a large number of people said, 'We really need more vermin at the ballpark, Artie.'" - Nick, 10/7/07

by doctorK on Mar 14, 2008 2:48 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

sweet....

the better he does the more likely Billy can trade him

by Coffee13eans on Mar 14, 2008 2:50 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Buan's comment on DJ's homer

He's usually good for a home run in this park!

Sounds like he's made for the White Sox.

"I'm more into going home and being horizontal" - Lew Wolff

by bvank on Mar 14, 2008 2:50 PM PDT reply actions   0 recs

Damn you DJ

stop hitting HRs.

When will then be now? Soon.

by Syphon on Mar 14, 2008 2:52 PM PDT reply actions   0 recs

Final line for Harden:

5IP, 1R, 1ER, 1H, 5K, 4BB, 57 pitches, 0 ground balls

by HigherPie on Mar 14, 2008 2:55 PM PDT reply actions   0 recs

Swisher should be mad

"Evidently, a large number of people said, 'We really need more vermin at the ballpark, Artie.'" - Nick, 10/7/07

by doctorK on Mar 14, 2008 2:59 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

The meaning of life is not so much 'found,' as it is 'made.' --Opus

by The Dogfather on Mar 14, 2008 3:01 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Petit pwns Swish.

Formerly known as hward86.

by BWH on Mar 14, 2008 2:59 PM PDT reply actions   0 recs

True Athletic, indeed

"Evidently, a large number of people said, 'We really need more vermin at the ballpark, Artie.'" - Nick, 10/7/07

by doctorK on Mar 14, 2008 3:05 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Forsty the Stat Man is on

The A's colors are green and gold.

by mikeA on Mar 14, 2008 3:13 PM PDT reply actions   0 recs

Sounds interlewdly poetic.

The meaning of life is not so much 'found,' as it is 'made.' --Opus

by The Dogfather on Mar 14, 2008 3:14 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

gameday

put Danny Richar in as the pitcher. I'm pretty sure that he plays 2B (or is it outfield?) for the White Sox.

by colin on Mar 14, 2008 3:19 PM PDT reply actions   0 recs

Stark asks "MLB's worst team?"

The Giants are mentioned, of course:

Giants: "You watch that team, and it's actually depressing," said a scout that has watched way too much of the Giants, apparently. ... "The talk of Arizona," said another scout, "is, how bad will the Giants be?"

by HigherPie on Mar 14, 2008 3:24 PM PDT reply actions   0 recs

hahaha

Sab(ean)ermetics for the win

by ChadGod on Mar 14, 2008 3:29 PM PDT reply actions   0 recs

Like I said -- he left.

The meaning of life is not so much 'found,' as it is 'made.' --Opus

by The Dogfather on Mar 14, 2008 4:31 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Petit k's inning over

going to the bottom of the 9th 8-1 A's

by theblackpearl on Mar 14, 2008 3:38 PM PDT reply actions   0 recs

2nd time

we've K'd looking with the bags loaded today. Nothing much else to complain about.

by HigherPie on Mar 14, 2008 3:39 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

A's win!

11-5 on the spring.

by HigherPie on Mar 14, 2008 3:45 PM PDT reply actions   0 recs

A's in 08!!

GO!

When will then be now? Soon.

by Syphon on Mar 14, 2008 3:49 PM PDT reply actions   0 recs

That was prolly the best ST game thus far...

well balanced pitching, defense, and hitting against the A-lineup of the White Sox.

by Oaktownflav on Mar 14, 2008 3:51 PM PDT reply actions   0 recs

The fact that the walks were quick

does the fact that Harden's walks were quick 4-pitch types prove that he was working on off speed stuff? It seems like once he's down 1-0, or 2-0, he'd normally throw a fastball. So the fact that he (presumably) didn't, and threw more balls, might imply that it was a mandate for off-speed.

I'm thinking that the walks were just because of the spring training pitch selection, and I'm happy.

by ohmangoAs on Mar 14, 2008 4:05 PM PDT reply actions   0 recs

I wouldn't be so sure

Harden's (other) Achilles heal has always been control issues. Which is what makes him hittable at times, and also prevents me from complete suicidal behavior when he gets injured.

by ChadGod on Mar 14, 2008 4:27 PM PDT reply actions   0 recs

my internet connection crapped out

halfway through the game, and didn't return til now...but what I heard (Harden's pitching, Barton's 3 run HR) sounded pretty good

by OaklandSi on Mar 14, 2008 6:19 PM PDT reply actions   0 recs

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